**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Apr 01 02:59:57 2013
Apr 01 03:05:30 <mranostay> mrpackethead: hey what was the cost for a 1k of those stacking headers?
Apr 01 03:05:53 * mranostay just needs for future BOM reference
Apr 01 03:06:04 <thurbad> probably less than he sold the remainder for :P
Apr 01 03:06:26 <mranostay> thurbad: well no #$%$# :)
Apr 01 03:09:24 <Shadyman> hehe
Apr 01 03:15:42 <mrpackethead> thurbad:  no the remainder got sold for what they cost me
Apr 01 03:15:53 <mrpackethead> $US512 plus freight.
Apr 01 03:16:05 <thurbad> nice :)
Apr 01 03:16:33 <mrpackethead> i needed about 500 for a project
Apr 01 03:16:39 <mrpackethead> 1000 was the MOQ
Apr 01 03:20:13 <mranostay> ironic price
Apr 01 03:24:37 <Shadyman> hehe
Apr 01 03:25:00 <Shadyman> it was that or 1024 :p
Apr 01 03:57:41 <Shadyman> Hmm. Not bad. http://dx.com/p/diy-2-way-4-pin-dip-switch-20-piece-pack-134098
Apr 01 03:59:21 <Shadyman> but digikey's cheaper for surface-mount
Apr 01 04:00:21 <mranostay> Shadyman: i had that as my phone ext at one company
Apr 01 04:00:32 <Shadyman> win
Apr 01 04:00:33 <mranostay> thought of having Ext: 1<<10 on my business cards
Apr 01 04:00:44 <Shadyman> could be better, though, coulda been 6502
Apr 01 04:01:11 <mranostay> heh i'd let mdp keep that one
Apr 01 04:11:11 <Shadyman> Honestly, I see no point in designing-in an RTC with battery backup if I can get 5 RTCs with EEPROMs and rechargeable batteries for $8.80
Apr 01 04:11:44 <Shadyman> curse you, economies of scale!
Apr 01 04:11:49 <mranostay> Shadyman: you mean on chip?
Apr 01 04:11:55 <Shadyman> no
Apr 01 04:16:01 <mrpackethead> we dont' do extenstions any longer
Apr 01 04:16:12 <mrpackethead> in fact we only now have 1 number
Apr 01 04:16:24 <mrpackethead> same nubmer gets desk/home/office whereever
Apr 01 04:16:52 <mrpackethead> Shady, i'm putting an RTC on the DMX cape
Apr 01 04:21:18 <Shadyman> cool
Apr 01 04:21:37 <mrpackethead> its about $6 to build i think
Apr 01 04:22:56 <mrpackethead> but its on another PCB
Apr 01 04:23:02 <mrpackethead> not sue how thats useful
Apr 01 04:23:08 <Shadyman> yeah :/
Apr 01 04:23:13 <mrpackethead> you have to connect it to somethign
Apr 01 04:24:32 <mrpackethead> I'm using the DS1338
Apr 01 04:24:38 <mrpackethead> DS1339
Apr 01 04:24:39 <mrpackethead> sorry
Apr 01 04:25:25 <Shadyman> ah
Apr 01 04:26:48 <Shadyman> now to wait for the GPS Cape to come back from the board mill
Apr 01 04:26:54 <Shadyman> (and the SD cape and the 1-Wire cape)
Apr 01 04:27:39 <Shadyman> GPS/GSM Cape has been my latest undertaking
Apr 01 04:30:11 <Shadyman> trying to slim down the BOM :/
Apr 01 04:57:11 <Shadyman> Ffffffffffuuuuuuuuuu---
Apr 01 04:59:35 <mranostay> heh
Apr 01 04:59:59 <mranostay> Shadyman: hmm hobby or for money?
Apr 01 05:00:55 <Shadyman> maybe both
Apr 01 05:01:04 <Shadyman> but hobby for now
Apr 01 05:01:31 <mranostay> Shadyman: RTC on the GPS cape as well?
Apr 01 05:01:37 <mranostay> for faster lock on
Apr 01 05:01:50 <Shadyman> backup battery for the GPS's rtc
Apr 01 05:04:28 <Shadyman> derp. So the footprint I used for the SOT23 op amp has its pin numbers reversed.
Apr 01 05:04:30 <Shadyman> grr
Apr 01 05:09:52 <mranostay> as prpplague and me say there is no such thing as a errataless board :)
Apr 01 05:10:38 <Shadyman> haha
Apr 01 05:10:58 <Shadyman> but i mean, the sot23-5 is pinned out wrong :/
Apr 01 05:11:10 <mranostay> yeah that is bad
Apr 01 05:11:27 <mranostay> geez what is with this new gmail?
Apr 01 05:31:42 <Shadyman> sent off an email to the pcb house. Now we get to see if I have to eat it :/
Apr 01 05:39:22 <mrpackethead> ah..
Apr 01 05:39:43 <mrpackethead> i made up a frame for my mylar stencils
Apr 01 05:39:45 <mrpackethead> works nicely.
Apr 01 05:39:59 <Shadyman> yay
Apr 01 05:40:39 <mrpackethead> putty knife turns out to be the best device for spreading the paste
Apr 01 05:41:12 <Shadyman> i'd believe it
Apr 01 06:03:52 <mranostay> Shadyman: don't eat PCBs
Apr 01 06:14:37 <mrpackethead> pcb's break the teeth
Apr 01 06:21:55 * mranostay send off a schematic for private mocking
Apr 01 06:22:29 * mranostay is always the weird kid on the team that can do hw and sw.. neither that good :)
Apr 01 06:23:39 <mranostay> av500: so a 15 channel logic anazyler sound odd? :)
Apr 01 06:24:25 <dm8tbr> mranostay: I can do hw, sw and damagement. imagine my problems... :-/
Apr 01 06:24:41 * dm8tbr doesn't fit in by design
Apr 01 06:27:15 <mranostay> dm8tbr: i actually did that in my last job interview.. "i'm not master of any one thing but i can do just about anything" :)
Apr 01 06:27:42 <mranostay> worked i think. altough i don't see that plane ticket for the on-site interview yet
Apr 01 06:28:05 <dm8tbr> :)
Apr 01 06:28:33 <dm8tbr> my quirky skill-set and my language skills scored me my current job
Apr 01 06:28:44 <mranostay> heh
Apr 01 06:29:02 <mranostay> honestly i like money but isn't the #1 thing when i look at jobs
Apr 01 06:29:24 <dm8tbr> neither it is for me
Apr 01 06:29:36 <mranostay> but i'm not working for nothing either :)
Apr 01 06:30:43 * mranostay swears at the new gmail interface
Apr 01 06:31:06 <dm8tbr> if you are familiar with hertzberg's theory: money is a hygiene factor
Apr 01 06:31:21 <mrpackethead> hertzberg? is that made up
Apr 01 06:32:26 <mranostay> dm8tbr: i rank career advancement and respect over money personally
Apr 01 06:32:38 <dm8tbr> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-factor_theory
Apr 01 06:32:57 <mrpackethead> mranostay: then you have been manipulated by the corporate borg
Apr 01 06:33:34 <mranostay> mrpackethead: not really
Apr 01 06:34:47 <mrpackethead> oh, yeah.. We'll make you think that you are advancing and being repsected and you'll do twice as much work, and stay at work at 11pm everynight, and not pay you any more than we did in 1989
Apr 01 06:34:53 <mrpackethead> victim
Apr 01 06:35:08 <mrpackethead> but money is boring
Apr 01 06:35:14 <mranostay> i don't do that
Apr 01 06:35:31 <mrpackethead> if you are familar with hertztroll therory
Apr 01 06:36:35 <mranostay> heh
Apr 01 06:37:17 <mrpackethead> mranostaytroll theory is good
Apr 01 06:37:18 <mrpackethead> :-)
Apr 01 06:39:36 <mranostay> personally i could go back to blue collar work if i just didn't care :P
Apr 01 06:40:25 <mranostay> plaster union in ohio makes 70k a year which is like a 120k salary here :P
Apr 01 06:40:52 <mrpackethead> i love my mid blue job
Apr 01 06:40:53 <mrpackethead> :-)
Apr 01 06:42:05 * mranostay bangs head on how he was talked into worked at a 'salt mine'
Apr 01 06:42:31 <mrpackethead> i used to work in a suit, earning crazy $$$
Apr 01 06:42:33 <mrpackethead> and i was miserable
Apr 01 06:42:46 <mrpackethead> now i wear jeans most days
Apr 01 06:43:00 <mrpackethead> and do fun stuff
Apr 01 06:43:04 <mrpackethead> dont' earn as much
Apr 01 06:43:12 <mrpackethead> but life is much more fun
Apr 01 06:43:13 <mrpackethead> :-)
Apr 01 06:54:22 <mranostay> mrpackethead: not suit without a suit, right? :)
Apr 01 06:54:32 * mranostay pokes mru for the reference
Apr 01 06:54:38 <mrpackethead> dont' get that
Apr 01 06:56:42 <mranostay> mrpackethead: well at conferences there are people without suits that are "suits"
Apr 01 06:59:33 <mrpackethead> lol.
Apr 01 06:59:41 <mrpackethead> i'm defintalty not a suit without a suit
Apr 01 06:59:48 <mrpackethead> i was a "non-suit" with a suit
Apr 01 06:59:51 <mrpackethead> in the previous job
Apr 01 06:59:52 <mrpackethead> :)
Apr 01 07:00:17 <mrpackethead> the staying is somethign like " if you aint' got substance, then you need flash "
Apr 01 07:05:15 <mranostay> or in ds2's case NAND flash
Apr 01 07:39:35 <mru> ds2 wears a nand suit?
Apr 01 07:42:31 <mranostay> yes
Apr 01 07:43:42 <mranostay> he keeps his NOR flash suit for weddings and such
Apr 01 07:47:19 <mrpackethead> nice.
Apr 01 12:37:15 <panto> lunch time
Apr 01 14:29:57 <panto> hey, if anyone can run this on their boxes I'd appreciate it
Apr 01 14:29:58 <panto> http://pastebin.com/XBcztAeT
Apr 01 14:30:10 <panto> let me know of output, bash version, kernel version
Apr 01 14:31:32 <woglinde> panto hehe I heard greece is now clear of debt
Apr 01 14:32:23 <panto> the garlic bonds cleared? nice
Apr 01 14:32:56 <woglinde> okay okay was only half as good
Apr 01 14:34:08 <mranostay> #@$@ mondays!
Apr 01 14:35:42 <woglinde> mranostay?
Apr 01 14:35:55 <woglinde> enjoy your holiday
Apr 01 14:36:25 <ogra_> or move to germany if your country doesnt have one today :)
Apr 01 14:37:05 <woglinde> by the way you get more holidays in germany
Apr 01 14:37:52 <mranostay> woglinde: holiday?
Apr 01 14:38:03 <ka6sox-away> yawn
Apr 01 14:39:34 <ogra_> mranostay, yeah, the more catholic your country, the more holiday :)
Apr 01 14:39:43 <ogra_> easter monday is off in germany
Apr 01 14:39:58 <woglinde> hm
Apr 01 14:39:58 <ogra_> (and in many other european countries afaik)
Apr 01 14:40:03 <woglinde> wrong button
Apr 01 14:42:36 <cmicali> panto: http://pastebin.com/rXywpGPR
Apr 01 14:42:41 <biot> and lo! a plague did come down upon the land
Apr 01 14:42:46 <biot> and it was purple.
Apr 01 14:42:51 <panto> hi prpplague
Apr 01 14:42:55 <panto> hi jkridner
Apr 01 14:45:22 <ka6sox> mourning.
Apr 01 14:46:38 <panto> http://hastebin.com/ditejuquno.coffee fwiw, that's mine
Apr 01 14:47:01 <jkridner> hi panto
Apr 01 14:47:10 <woglinde_> hi jkridner
Apr 01 14:47:27 <jkridner> howdy woglinde_
Apr 01 14:47:33 <jkridner> woglinde even
Apr 01 14:47:35 <mdp> mourning ka6sox
Apr 01 14:47:49 <ka6sox> morning mdp jkridner panto woglinde
Apr 01 14:47:58 <jkridner> howdy ka6sox
Apr 01 14:48:11 <prpplague> panto: greetings
Apr 01 14:48:41 <BeagleGithub> [kernel] koenkooi pushed 1 new commit to 3.8: http://git.io/mWbpqA
Apr 01 14:48:41 <BeagleGithub> kernel/3.8 ee4d47c Koen Kooi: 3.8: add new regulator for boneblack mmc slots...
Apr 01 14:49:33 <woglinde> hi prpplague
Apr 01 14:50:21 <ka6sox> I was sucessful this weekend...
Apr 01 14:53:28 <panto> http://pastebin.com/FstHXzFu
Apr 01 14:55:06 <mranostay> panto: wrong channel? :)
Apr 01 14:58:19 <mranostay> ok no it is full of purple!
Apr 01 14:58:56 <ka6sox> mranostay, what *are* you talking about?
Apr 01 14:59:15 <koen> prpplague, who elsse?
Apr 01 14:59:24 <prpplague> hehe
Apr 01 14:59:31 <prpplague> :)
Apr 01 14:59:45 <prpplague> jkridner: how many bacon capes are you going to need?
Apr 01 14:59:51 <woglinde> ~lart coreutils developer
Apr 01 14:59:55 <jkridner> prpplague: 140
Apr 01 14:59:55 <prpplague> jkridner: trying to get everything out to fab
Apr 01 15:00:03 <prpplague> jkridner: ok thanks
Apr 01 15:00:15 <mranostay> prpplague: isn't that a big order for a first rev? :)
Apr 01 15:00:17 <prpplague> jkridner: i'll get you gerbers this evening with the labels
Apr 01 15:00:24 <prpplague> mranostay: yea, no time though
Apr 01 15:00:33 <prpplague> mranostay: i'd love to order 4 or 6
Apr 01 15:02:41 <mranostay> prpplague: why the rush?
Apr 01 15:03:03 <prpplague> mranostay: design west
Apr 01 15:03:09 <prpplague> mranostay: jkridner is doing training
Apr 01 15:03:45 <mranostay> prpplague: corrupting more our youth with javascript? :)
Apr 01 15:04:04 <prpplague> mranostay: apparently so
Apr 01 15:04:40 <cmicali> what is the bacon cape
Apr 01 15:04:48 <cmicali> high powered heating element?
Apr 01 15:05:05 <mranostay> hello lawsuit :)
Apr 01 15:05:06 <cmicali> for instant bacon
Apr 01 15:06:01 * mranostay spots a wild davest 
Apr 01 15:06:25 <prpplague> cmicali: a variation of the beacon board specifically for the beaglebone
Apr 01 15:06:55 <davest> good morning all
Apr 01 15:07:12 <ka6sox> morning davest
Apr 01 15:07:16 <cmicali> prpplague: ah very arduinoey
Apr 01 15:08:01 * mdp salivates
Apr 01 15:09:44 <mranostay> prpplague: i used you are using a pick and place machine?
Apr 01 15:10:20 <prpplague> mranostay: parse error
Apr 01 15:11:38 <mranostay> prpplague: you aren't assembling this all by hand right?
Apr 01 15:12:28 <prpplague> mranostay: i am not sure what clint has in mind, 140 is a pretty small run to get all setup for the silkmask
Apr 01 15:12:50 <prpplague> mranostay: plus the lines are pretty full for beaglebone unzipped
Apr 01 15:13:07 * koen points at the magnifiers and stereomicroscopes in the production area
Apr 01 15:13:25 <prpplague> mranostay: i put fiducials on the boards anyway
Apr 01 15:13:49 <prpplague> koen: hehe, you could hand assemble this with a shack iron
Apr 01 15:14:12 <ka6sox> prpplague, are they microprint?
Apr 01 15:16:25 * prpplague is not familiar with the term microprint
Apr 01 15:16:50 <ka6sox-away> like the stuff deposited on IC Dies
Apr 01 15:18:07 <mranostay> prpplague: you should silkscreen a zipper on
Apr 01 15:18:07 <prpplague> ka6sox-away: hehe, no
Apr 01 15:19:23 <prpplague> mranostay: hehe
Apr 01 15:19:51 <prpplague> koen: well as a side note - the car has been fixed
Apr 01 15:24:47 <koen> prpplague: how much tex-mex did it take?
Apr 01 15:25:54 <prpplague> koen: hehe
Apr 01 15:26:08 <prpplague> koen: well i waited for 2 hours to find out what all needed to be fixed
Apr 01 15:26:20 <prpplague> koen: ended up picking up the car on saturday around noon
Apr 01 15:37:56 <woglinde> prpplague did you read out the obu?
Apr 01 15:39:28 * prpplague hasn't had enough coffee this morning and is having trouble parsing things
Apr 01 15:39:30 <prpplague> woglinde: ??
Apr 01 15:40:06 <ogra_> on board unit
Apr 01 15:40:11 <ogra_> (computer)
Apr 01 15:40:33 <prpplague> woglinde: oh you mean for my car? no....
Apr 01 15:41:19 <woglinde> thanks ogra
Apr 01 15:41:37 <ogra_> kind of a german naming :)
Apr 01 15:41:44 <ogra_> (i think)
Apr 01 15:43:29 <jkridner> koen: for sources, is tar czf sources.tgz oe/oebb.sh oe/README oe/conf oe/sources oe/scripts $HOME/.oe/* sufficient?
Apr 01 15:44:03 <jkridner> should I pick up oe/.git ?
Apr 01 15:44:09 <jkridner> btw, oe == setup-scripts
Apr 01 15:44:45 <koen> sources/ should be enough
Apr 01 15:45:07 <jkridner> k. I think the little extra will make sure rebuilding is doable.
Apr 01 15:46:04 <jkridner> chromium build is taking a *long* time.
Apr 01 15:47:10 <ogra_> jkridner, 5h on a chromebook (i just did it yesterday)
Apr 01 15:47:28 <ogra_> cross should even be a lot faster
Apr 01 15:47:40 <jkridner> 32-bit cross on a 3.5GB RAM machine. :(
Apr 01 15:48:13 <jkridner> finally finished
Apr 01 15:56:48 <mdp> hehe...try a 386SX next
Apr 01 16:07:47 <ka6sox-farfarawa> is a 386SX like an imaginary FRI2? can I build on that?
Apr 01 16:11:17 <mdp> 386sx reminds me of 13 hour kernel builds and my roommate whining about the drive noise at night ;)
Apr 01 16:11:44 <woglinde> oh my god so many casualties in the elite 8
Apr 01 16:12:22 <mdp> woglinde: :(
Apr 01 16:19:58 <_av500_> ahoi
Apr 01 16:20:28 <ka6sox-farfarawa> woglinde, who died?
Apr 01 16:23:42 <jkridner> koen: chromium doesn't build: http://ec2-50-17-169-231.compute-1.amazonaws.com/oe/build/tmp-angstrom_v2012_12-eglibc/work/armv7a-vfp-neon-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/chromium-19.0.1049.3-r1/temp/log.do_compile.10619
Apr 01 16:24:40 <_av500_> who needs chromium?
Apr 01 16:24:53 <_av500_> I mean, it does not even have flash
Apr 01 16:25:25 <ogra_> it has <blink></blink>
Apr 01 16:39:03 <_av500_> not </blue>?
Apr 01 16:39:38 <ogra_> only on gmail pages :)
Apr 01 17:05:00 <mranostay> heh i hate this day
Apr 01 17:05:09 <mranostay> april fools and on a monday
Apr 01 17:06:10 * mranostay blames prpplague 
Apr 01 17:06:23 <ogra_> and half the world having a holiday to actually ponder over freaky jokes ...
Apr 01 17:06:26 <mranostay> ka6sox-farfarawa: FRI2 exists
Apr 01 17:06:36 <mranostay> ogra_: i wouldn't call it a holiday
Apr 01 17:06:54 <prpplague> ka6sox-farfarawa: i have one disassembled on my desk, hehe
Apr 01 17:07:15 <ogra_> mranostay, why ? the majority of christian based countries has national holiday today
Apr 01 17:07:31 <mranostay> not this one
Apr 01 17:07:46 <ogra_> (most of europe, australia etc ...)
Apr 01 17:11:56 <Russ> weird, a christian holiday the US does not take part in
Apr 01 17:15:17 <mdp> Russ, Ascension Day is also not a public holiday here
Apr 01 17:15:19 <mdp> among others
Apr 01 17:23:42 <woglinde> chromium 19 is stoneage
Apr 01 17:29:59 <_av500_> as long as it russ node.js...
Apr 01 17:31:23 <Russ> what did I do?
Apr 01 17:34:11 <mranostay> Russ: you are being yourself
Apr 01 17:35:28 <ka6sox-farfarawa> back...sorta
Apr 01 17:51:44 <mranostay> ka6sox-farfarawa: sorta?
Apr 01 19:14:46 <mranostay> hi mrpackethead
Apr 01 19:15:00 <mrpackethead> kia ora
Apr 01 19:46:50 * mranostay thinks mru must be out hunting easter eggs
Apr 01 19:50:45 <Crofton|work> trolls more likely
Apr 01 19:51:09 <mranostay> trolls lay eggs?
Apr 01 19:53:47 <woglinde> easter bunnies
Apr 01 19:54:11 <ogra_> trolls lay easter bunnies ?
Apr 01 19:56:15 <mranostay> weird
Apr 01 20:19:00 <mru> troll troll troll
Apr 01 20:23:34 <woglinde> gm mru
Apr 01 20:54:58 <mranostay> mru: hey troll the great
Apr 01 20:55:18 <mranostay> anyone have suggestions on buffers that can work at 200mhz?
Apr 01 21:12:27 <Shadyman> So I see an NTP GPS thing advertised in Circuit Cellar for $199
Apr 01 21:13:37 <Shadyman> I lied. $299
Apr 01 21:14:42 <woglinde> Shadyman and whats this for?
Apr 01 21:15:07 <Shadyman> to have accurate time on your network computers
Apr 01 21:16:22 <Shadyman> http://www.netburner.com/products/network-time-server/pk70-exntp
Apr 01 21:17:07 <Shadyman> How it possibly needs a 150mhz cpu is beyond me
Apr 01 21:17:33 <woglinde> ?
Apr 01 21:17:38 <woglinde> I do not get it
Apr 01 21:17:42 <woglinde> if I have net
Apr 01 21:17:45 <woglinde> I can use ntp
Apr 01 21:17:48 <woglinde> directly
Apr 01 21:17:50 <Shadyman> ntp is slooooow
Apr 01 21:18:00 <Shadyman> lots of delays
Apr 01 21:18:12 <Shadyman> basically, you're adding a local ntp server with this
Apr 01 21:19:28 <woglinde> hm but there are cheaper modules which will find the rf signal
Apr 01 21:19:37 <woglinde> I am still confused
Apr 01 21:19:42 <woglinde> or is this for africa?
Apr 01 21:20:19 <Shadyman> it'd be more for data centers or somethign that's highly reliant on time
Apr 01 21:20:34 <Shadyman> where 10ms is too much drift
Apr 01 21:32:10 * mranostay surfs in
Apr 01 21:34:24 <Shadyman> 'lo
Apr 01 21:35:13 <mrpackethead> i did this in 2001 for the datacenters i was workong on
Apr 01 21:35:29 <mrpackethead> used a garmin Marine GPS intended for a boat
Apr 01 21:35:36 <mrpackethead> stuck them on the roof of the datacenters
Apr 01 21:35:46 <mrpackethead> and connected them to a server
Apr 01 21:36:06 <mrpackethead> got me a "star" award, becuase the middle managers thought it was increadbily amazing
Apr 01 21:36:07 <mrpackethead> :-)
Apr 01 21:36:22 <mrpackethead> lol.. thats because middle managers don't know jack
Apr 01 21:37:12 <Shadyman> heh
Apr 01 21:37:55 <mrpackethead> if i was doing it tofday
Apr 01 21:37:59 <mrpackethead> i'd take a slughtly differnet approach
Apr 01 21:38:06 <mrpackethead> yo ucould build the entire thing onto a beagle cape
Apr 01 21:38:07 <mrpackethead> :)
Apr 01 21:38:19 <mrpackethead> about $30 of bits
Apr 01 21:39:24 <mranostay> heh
Apr 01 21:39:56 <mranostay> mrpackethead: peter principle is what i define middle management :)
Apr 01 21:40:21 <mrpackethead> middle managment also did'nt like me
Apr 01 21:40:29 <mrpackethead> becuase i got paid more than them
Apr 01 21:40:33 <mrpackethead> ironic really
Apr 01 21:40:37 <mranostay> nice
Apr 01 21:41:00 <mrpackethead> middle managers where everywhere.  Compotent, Expereinced network engieners, they were scarces
Apr 01 21:41:14 <mrpackethead> so, when you got paid twice as much as your boss
Apr 01 21:41:22 <mrpackethead> that mde for some interesting fricton from time to time
Apr 01 21:45:51 <mranostay> oh uh here comes middle management
Apr 01 21:45:54 <mranostay> hi kkeller :)
Apr 01 21:50:52 <kkeller> hello mranostay - did I ever directly manage you?
Apr 01 21:51:27 <ds2> too many loose cannons to keep track of? ;)
Apr 01 22:18:39 <Shadyman> haha
Apr 01 22:19:20 <Shadyman> mrpackethead: Condier it built :/ It's coming back from the pcb house soon
Apr 01 22:20:03 <mrpackethead> lol.. just abecause a board is bieng made
Apr 01 22:20:07 <mrpackethead> deos'nt mean its finished!!!
Apr 01 22:20:19 <Shadyman> hehe
Apr 01 22:20:35 <Shadyman> I'm looking at making an open-source NTP/GPS time server thing
Apr 01 22:21:06 <Shadyman> likely an ATMega, a Wiznet W5200, and a NEO-6
Apr 01 22:22:04 <Shadyman> and maybe even a http://www.digikey.ca/product-detail/en/1455C801/HM969-ND/460159
Apr 01 22:27:59 <mranostay> kkeller: i believe you attempted :P
Apr 01 22:28:18 <mranostay> ds2: i was less of a loose cannon back then... :)
Apr 01 22:28:32 <kkeller> mranostay:  you where just unmanageable ;)
Apr 01 22:29:39 <mranostay> kkeller: so you taking PCB orders yet? :P
Apr 01 22:30:18 <kkeller> nope..   busy enough with my stuff let alone other people's
Apr 01 22:30:34 <mranostay> kkeller: AR-15 cape?
Apr 01 22:30:53 * kkeller lol
Apr 01 23:19:41 * mranostay does the Crofton|work shake
Apr 01 23:28:48 <ds2> AR-15? so it is not an automatic cape?
Apr 01 23:36:20 <mranostay> ds2: hello jail time! :)
Apr 02 00:10:56 <mranostay> prpplague: #800080!
Apr 02 00:12:14 <Crofton|work> mranostay, I need a scouting report: http://steinsbeergarden.com/
Apr 02 00:13:40 <mranostay> ah i heard about that place when i was at a nearby bar last week
Apr 02 00:13:59 * mranostay looks at beer list
Apr 02 00:14:21 <prpplague> Crofton|work: hey we don't let google rejects in here
Apr 02 00:14:51 <Crofton|work> which bar
Apr 02 00:14:52 <mranostay> Arrogant Bastard should be the be official beer of #beagle
Apr 02 00:15:01 <prpplague> mranostay: hehe
Apr 02 00:15:35 * prpplague just finished replacing a damaged shingle before the coming thunderstorm
Apr 02 00:15:54 <mranostay> Crofton|work: some dive bar off Castro
Apr 02 00:16:29 <mranostay> Mervyn's
Apr 02 00:16:44 <prpplague> mranostay: http://i.imwx.com//web/radar/us_sc_9regradar_plus_usen.jpg
Apr 02 00:16:52 <mranostay> prpplague: google rejects?
Apr 02 00:17:30 <prpplague> mranostay: http://i.imwx.com//web/radar/us_sc_9regradar_plus_usen.jpg
Apr 02 00:17:38 <prpplague> mranostay: oops
Apr 02 00:17:41 <prpplague> mranostay: wrong url
Apr 02 00:17:52 <prpplague> mranostay: https://plus.google.com/u/0/107672941537404681483/posts/73WbPLbQKv1
Apr 02 00:21:22 <mranostay> prpplague: well Crofton|work and me can drink away use not being good enough for Google at Stein's :P
Apr 02 00:22:11 <mranostay> what i love about google recuiters is they never respond to you responding :)
Apr 02 00:24:24 * mranostay smacks head. putting "bars on castro st" doesn't pick the MV one.... :)
Apr 02 00:26:31 <mranostay> Crofton|work: been to Steak Out? they have a nice beer selection
Apr 02 00:26:58 <Crofton|work> yes
Apr 02 00:27:02 <Crofton|work> I like it
Apr 02 00:42:06 * mranostay tries to justify upgrade Eagle for 6 layer boards
Apr 02 00:42:22 <Shadyman1> mranostay: Nope.
Apr 02 00:42:45 <mranostay> well namely only need 4
Apr 02 00:44:39 <mranostay> but i can do this project a little creatively anyway
Apr 02 00:52:19 <ds2> mranostay: the non commercial version?
Apr 02 00:55:03 <ka6sox-farfarawa> mranostay, prpplague I have no evidence to support that as anything other than a myth.
Apr 02 01:00:35 <mranostay> ds2: not hobbyist
Apr 02 01:18:31 <mrpackethead> did i miss anyting
Apr 02 01:18:40 <mranostay> we cured cancer
Apr 02 01:18:50 <ka6sox-farfarawa> nothing significant.
Apr 02 01:18:50 <mrpackethead> mranostay: why 6 layer
Apr 02 01:18:50 <mranostay> solved world hunger
Apr 02 01:18:56 <mrpackethead> i have the 6 layer stack
Apr 02 01:19:14 <mranostay> they don't have a 4 layer license
Apr 02 01:19:29 <mrpackethead> i have the everything licence
Apr 02 01:19:33 <mrpackethead> other than the auto-router
Apr 02 01:19:38 <mrpackethead> cause the auto-router sucks
Apr 02 01:19:48 <mrpackethead> i seriously might kick eagle out
Apr 02 01:19:55 <mrpackethead> but its just such an effort
Apr 02 01:19:57 <mrpackethead> that i dont' need today
Apr 02 01:20:05 <mranostay> heh going to kicad?
Apr 02 01:20:07 <mranostay> :)
Apr 02 01:20:11 <mrpackethead> not sure
Apr 02 01:20:26 <mrpackethead> I had a quote for a conversion shop to convert the beagle fiels into eagle
Apr 02 01:20:28 <mrpackethead> for $1800USD
Apr 02 01:20:47 <mrpackethead> this black thing has really rattled my board
Apr 02 01:20:54 <mrpackethead> who are very nervous about it
Apr 02 01:21:15 <ka6sox-farfarawa> DWR! D! D!
Apr 02 01:21:27 <mrpackethead> i need to be able to demonstrate that if Circuit Co ditch teh White board
Apr 02 01:21:40 <mrpackethead> that i'm not up the creek without a paddle
Apr 02 01:22:18 <mrpackethead> and the black board is not compatible
Apr 02 01:22:32 <mrpackethead> then at least i have an option to dig ourselves out of a hole.
Apr 02 01:22:40 <ka6sox-farfarawa> mrpackethead, why?
Apr 02 01:22:49 <ka6sox-farfarawa> (is it not compatible)?
Apr 02 01:22:51 <mrpackethead> why what?
Apr 02 01:23:03 <mrpackethead> well, untill we have one, we don't know if it is or if its not
Apr 02 01:23:13 <ka6sox-farfarawa> ah, okay
Apr 02 01:23:22 <mrpackethead>  white != black
Apr 02 01:23:29 <mrpackethead> white might just be close to black
Apr 02 01:23:38 <mrpackethead> and that might be enough to cause drama
Apr 02 01:23:53 <ka6sox-farfarawa> drama is what we live for...daily
Apr 02 01:27:19 <mranostay> heh
Apr 02 01:27:33 <mranostay> mrpackethead: i can say for your use nothing changed that matters
Apr 02 01:29:19 <mdp> did someone say drama?
Apr 02 01:33:03 <ka6sox-farfarawa> mdp, yes, but not the Basketball kind
Apr 02 01:33:17 <mdp> hrmph
Apr 02 01:33:40 <mdp> I'm ok with some chad goodman -style drama too
Apr 02 01:34:53 <ka6sox-farfarawa> I dunno why woglinde was so heartbroken...we *knew* that 4 teams were going home.
Apr 02 01:36:00 <mdp> we are heartbroken here to be beaten by puny little wichita state. but then the next day came and life went on ;)
Apr 02 01:36:20 <ka6sox-farfarawa> thats like being beaten in Football by UTEP
Apr 02 01:36:39 <mdp> heh
Apr 02 01:37:26 <mrpackethead> i'llb e back soonish
Apr 02 01:38:06 <ka6sox-farfarawa> he wasn't kidding!
Apr 02 01:55:24 <mranostay> man is Linus on a pixel kick
Apr 02 01:55:36 <prpplague> hehe
Apr 02 01:59:33 <mdp> funny that it doesn't run Linux at all...just ChromeOS and Ubuntu
Apr 02 01:59:36 <mdp> go figure
Apr 02 02:10:46 <ka6sox-farfarawa> mdp, I'm glad you cleared that up the Ubuntu != Linux
Apr 02 02:14:33 <Wulfman> uhhh
Apr 02 02:58:36 <prpplague> jkridner: http://imagebin.org/252481
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