**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Apr 02 02:59:58 2013 Apr 02 03:01:13 jkridner: labels ok? Apr 02 03:03:07 works for me Apr 02 03:04:57 prpplague: ^^^ Apr 02 03:05:46 jkridner: dandy Apr 02 03:07:13 not gonna tell us what U1 is? Apr 02 03:08:23 or U2 (other than a Band) Apr 02 03:23:19 ka6sox-farfarawa: i labeled them after i posted the image on imagebin Apr 02 03:25:51 whew...thougth I was missing something Apr 02 03:29:12 ugh, i so hate eagle Apr 02 03:29:27 me too Apr 02 03:29:29 GLHF Apr 02 03:31:38 oghhh.. Apr 02 03:35:24 * prpplague grumbles at eagle Apr 02 03:35:31 it doesn't seem to like my fiducials Apr 02 03:40:56 prpplague: why the hate for eagle Apr 02 03:41:51 mrpackethead: because it is counter intuitive Apr 02 03:42:18 common GUI based tasks that i expect to work, don't Apr 02 03:42:21 some people say that Apr 02 03:42:30 but i guess i'm just very fmailar with it now Apr 02 03:42:33 so its 2nd nature Apr 02 03:42:34 hehe a lot of peopke say that Apr 02 03:42:54 but things like cut and paste intially are very stupid Apr 02 03:43:01 they invented their own "system" Apr 02 03:43:32 mrpackethead: a good example is: i have 10 device names that i want to select and change all the font sizes for them Apr 02 03:43:43 mrpackethead: that simple does not work Apr 02 03:43:47 simply Apr 02 03:43:53 damn, CdS cells, u spendy Apr 02 03:44:47 almost better off getting an i2c ambient light sensor Apr 02 03:44:58 i want to change what we are using Apr 02 03:45:11 i thinkw e are almost at the end of useful Apr 02 03:45:23 with eagle Apr 02 03:45:35 its been a cheap way to get us this far Apr 02 03:45:46 but i can see it groaning Apr 02 03:46:10 the big question is what to move to Apr 02 03:46:31 in an ideal world, i'd like something server centric, with no desktop installed software Apr 02 03:46:54 ran in a web browser Apr 02 03:46:56 on any platform Apr 02 04:05:05 don't smoke one of those... Apr 02 04:05:11 talk about toxic waste.. Apr 02 04:30:16 heh Apr 02 04:31:29 mranostay, you drove prpplague into exhaustion...what do you have to say for yourself? Apr 02 04:37:38 success? Apr 02 04:41:58 * mranostay watchs joel_'s talk Apr 02 04:51:47 <_av500_> yarn Apr 02 04:53:48 * mranostay toss a ball of yarn at av500 Apr 02 04:55:23 Q: magic 8 ball....do I have to go back to DT Hell tommorrow? Apr 02 04:55:52 you can consult it out :P Apr 02 04:56:07 nobody wants to do it. Apr 02 05:07:35 ka6sox-faraway: oh depends on what you need done :) Apr 02 05:16:44 lol. Apr 02 05:19:16 * mranostay needs to do a CV... silly .us resumes.. Apr 02 05:21:23 hmmmmm Apr 02 05:29:35 mranostay: resume for what? Apr 02 05:30:03 mrpackethead: well CV != resume :) Apr 02 05:30:14 use \latex Apr 02 05:30:16 i hate them Apr 02 05:30:19 they suck Apr 02 05:30:35 please submit your story about why you are cool enough to work with us on youtbue Apr 02 05:31:08 if you email me a long list of what you ahve done in a nicely formated document Apr 02 05:31:19 you'll get -10 points Apr 02 05:32:57 yesterday I lerned how to spel Engeniere...today I r 1. Apr 02 05:37:05 mrpackethead: how many points for having that in word format? :D Apr 02 05:37:41 i'd be impressed if you got a whiteboard Apr 02 05:37:47 and sent it that way Apr 02 05:37:52 the one guy that did do that Apr 02 05:37:55 got a job Apr 02 05:37:56 :-) Apr 02 05:38:00 not the job he applied for Apr 02 05:38:05 but we hired him Apr 02 05:38:07 :-) Apr 02 05:38:35 sent us a 8x4' whitboard Apr 02 05:38:40 with what he wanted to say on it Apr 02 05:38:43 that was clever Apr 02 05:38:48 certainly got our attention Apr 02 05:39:01 mind you, i got lots of greif fro teh HR department Apr 02 05:39:03 lucky the cleaning lady did not wipe it.... Apr 02 05:39:06 who didnt understand. Apr 02 05:39:28 er, cleaning person Apr 02 05:39:35 * av500 takes a card Apr 02 05:39:45 a troll-card? Apr 02 05:40:05 * dm8tbr will bring troll-cards to the next event Apr 02 05:40:18 listen HR deparmetn. You guys gave me a run down set of datacenters that were bleeding money.. 2 years, later, they are earning you 1/2 of the companys profits in this country.. and we have 1/20th of the staff of thec ompany Apr 02 05:40:37 don't tell me how to hire the right people Apr 02 05:40:44 i had to et rid of your 'right' people Apr 02 05:41:47 http://www.amazon.com/How-Lose-Friends-Infuriate-People/dp/0957716540 Apr 02 05:41:53 this is a must read book Apr 02 05:42:09 but almost certainly will get you fired, if yoru boss is an idiot Apr 02 05:43:47 so many people fired Apr 02 05:50:18 heh Apr 02 05:52:37 mranostay: you are quiet on the mock front Apr 02 05:52:56 sssh you will wake him up Apr 02 06:10:53 KotH: ping Apr 02 06:15:00 more vias? Apr 02 06:16:03 av500: indeed Apr 02 06:35:50 hi! Apr 02 06:41:29 Shadyman1: pong Apr 02 06:43:33 mrpackethead: the reviewes are great Apr 02 06:43:45 mrpackethead: "Perhaps that is because most of his ideas are completely unworkable: Get every citizen to vote on every issue,..." Apr 02 06:43:53 mrpackethead: totally impossible!!!!1!1!einself Apr 02 06:44:50 you have to take from the book what you want Apr 02 06:44:51 :-) Apr 02 06:45:26 if nothing else, the book will make you think about the status quo Apr 02 06:45:29 you dont' need to agree with it Apr 02 06:45:46 too much thinking is bad for your corporate health Apr 02 06:46:24 KotH: in regards to the GPS Cape, the hardware integration manual seems to suggest that the GPS radio should have its own isolated ground. Should I be doing that? Apr 02 06:47:09 Shadyman1: good idea, but hard to implement without screwing up all signal grounds Apr 02 06:47:42 Shadyman1: and for the cape, i'd say that keeping the whole thing on its own board isolates it enough from the rest of the circuit Apr 02 06:47:56 That's what I thought.. because baseband signals are only relative to their own ground :/ Apr 02 06:48:09 floating ground = badness Apr 02 06:48:29 if you are worried about noise coupling, place some small caps at the power pins of the cape Apr 02 06:49:06 Not that worried about this one. the GSM-ified version has eleventy billion tiny caps :/ Apr 02 06:49:20 oh, they dont mean floating ground, they mean cut of the lea ground from the rest and connect it somewhere to the normal ground using some high resistance or using an inductor Apr 02 06:50:01 I figured, having seen that kind of ground pour through resistor on routers and such Apr 02 06:50:57 I'll probably worry about it more on the gsm/gps cape as far as noise between the two Apr 02 06:51:44 just add a connector for a ground spike on the cape Apr 02 06:52:35 KotH: Okay, thanks. I managed to stop the pcb mill after finding out that i had the opamp pinout backwards, just wanted to see if I needed to re-do other things too Apr 02 06:55:48 Shadyman1: oh.. you've a gsm modem on too? Apr 02 06:56:00 not on this one :) Apr 02 06:56:07 Shadyman1: then it might be a good idea to have a cut in the ground, to seperate the gps and gsm grounds Apr 02 06:56:39 * KotH connects av500 to the ground... with an thick iron chain Apr 02 06:56:40 ;) Apr 02 07:06:36 Quick beagleboard sd card question for anyone out there Apr 02 07:07:24 Quick beagleboard sd card question for you out there: use another one ;-) Apr 02 07:08:10 Lol! I'm willing to take donations. How do I go about debugging the sd card error: spl: fat register err --1 Apr 02 07:10:39 hello Apr 02 07:11:22 Can anyone help? Apr 02 07:11:29 pastebin a full boot log Apr 02 07:11:40 imagine that we are not seeing your screen Apr 02 07:14:10 [kernel] koenkooi pushed 1 new commit to 3.8: http://git.io/qq_H5Q Apr 02 07:14:11 kernel/3.8 9c42da3 Koen Kooi: 3.8: add cape for USER button, teach tilcdc about pinmux and allow the user to disable capes using the kernel cmdline... Apr 02 07:15:11 Thanks for the tip. I got the following output after connecting a serial cable to the beagle board: http://pastebin.com/4ex2Y5ze Apr 02 07:19:19 just an FYI the sd card has been partitioned to have ubuntu 12.10 Apr 02 07:20:07 how did you prepare the card? Apr 02 07:22:53 Using the setup_sdcard.sh script documented here : http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#Quantal_12.10_armhf Apr 02 07:23:25 [kernel] koenkooi pushed 1 new commit to 3.8: http://git.io/5pgmVw Apr 02 07:23:25 kernel/3.8 62e5993 Koen Kooi: 3.8: update OE recipe... Apr 02 07:30:30 flo_lap: ping Apr 02 07:32:30 hmm Apr 02 07:32:34 MLO gets loaded Apr 02 07:32:38 so ROM code likes the card Apr 02 07:32:45 now, why does MLO no like it Apr 02 07:32:52 aka SPL Apr 02 07:33:20 if MLO is SPL, is uboot TPL? Apr 02 07:33:23 and kernel QPL? Apr 02 09:02:27 morning Apr 02 09:02:51 hey Apr 02 09:13:10 heja panto Apr 02 09:13:17 its quiet Apr 02 09:13:24 * panto makes some noise Apr 02 09:15:23 * KotH throws some silencers at panto Apr 02 09:20:31 troll Apr 02 09:21:50 troll, troll, troll your boat... Apr 02 09:22:23 if i connected the /INT pin of a spi slave to P8.26/GPIO1_29 if an beaglebone, is interrupt-parent=<&gpio2>; interrputs=<29>; the correct DT snippet for setting the interrupt? if comment those lines out, the module complains, there is no interrupt setting, but it seems the interrupt is not generated... Apr 02 09:33:38 did you pinmux gpio1_29 correctly? Apr 02 09:33:49 and does it show up in /proc/interrupts? Apr 02 09:48:49 koen: pinmux should be done correctly, i'll just boot it again... Apr 02 09:51:04 koen: after loading the module (at86rf230), it shows up in /proc/interrupts as "205: 0 GPIO spi1.0" Apr 02 09:54:50 mru: a wonderfull JIHAD to you too! Apr 02 10:12:29 av500: do you have any appnote on the nested irq stuff of the msp430? i have problems to understand how it works exactly, and google does not give anything usefull Apr 02 10:13:09 ? Apr 02 10:13:13 no idea Apr 02 10:22:16 damn.. Apr 02 10:22:19 thanks anways Apr 02 11:32:58 koen: is a pin configured for an interrupt supposed to appear in /sys/kernel/debug/gpio? Apr 02 11:44:15 I have no idea, sorry Apr 02 11:44:38 Rotti, no, but you should see in /proc/interrupts Apr 02 11:45:01 gm panto Apr 02 11:45:11 gm koen Apr 02 11:45:12 gm all Apr 02 11:45:18 hi jkridner Apr 02 11:45:26 jkridner, about the ping last night Apr 02 11:45:28 jkridner: how far along are you with the cppi patches? Apr 02 11:45:30 panto: i can see it there, but no interrupts seem to have happened Apr 02 11:45:42 * panto shrugs, pinmux is wrong then Apr 02 11:46:00 jkridner, I have a friend that's part of the local hackerspace Apr 02 11:46:02 koen: no where. I can make it a priority for today if it helps. Apr 02 11:46:12 jkridner: you're the only one working on it Apr 02 11:46:25 and I told him about the new bone, they seem pretty interested in it Apr 02 11:46:28 k. Apr 02 11:46:39 Rotti: I have a similar problem with the mxt224, no interupts are seen by linux Apr 02 11:46:50 Rotti: but I haven't ruled out a hw problem yet in my case Apr 02 11:46:50 I could do some kind presentation for them, create some buzz Apr 02 11:46:59 panto: cool Apr 02 11:47:23 can we seed them any spare bones? Apr 02 11:49:47 koen: it could be a software issue, too... i don't really know the exact meaning of the numbers when configuring the pinmux Apr 02 11:51:46 hum, in arch/arm/boot/dts/am33xx.dtsi's settings for the gpio controller, #interrupt-cells is set to <1>, but Documentation/devicetree/bindings/gpio/gpio-omap.txt says "- #interrupt-cells : Should be 2." Apr 02 11:51:57 panto: I don't think we have any "spare". I certainly think we need to formalize our give-away policies to make sure hackerspaces have boards. Apr 02 11:52:52 jkridner, ok, just let me know what these guys need to do Apr 02 11:53:16 mdp, LinkedIn says I should congratulate you, so here you go! Apr 02 11:53:20 congrats! Apr 02 11:53:43 panto: I can get 1 or 2 to them if you send me the contact info. Apr 02 11:53:57 shipping, etc. Apr 02 11:54:20 jkridner, thx, I'll talk to them Apr 02 11:55:21 aah, it seems to work now Apr 02 11:55:43 *magic* Apr 02 11:56:00 panto: i changed #interrupt-cells to <2> Apr 02 11:56:08 don't know if it breaks something else Apr 02 11:58:17 Rotti, I'll take a look Apr 02 11:58:26 but have to grab lunch Apr 02 11:58:56 panto: get an iskender kebab ;) Apr 02 12:02:18 panto: thx Apr 02 12:16:21 back Apr 02 12:17:55 left Apr 02 12:18:49 right Apr 02 12:20:03 centre Apr 02 12:22:21 hey, i am using BeagleBoard-XM Expansion V2 by chipseeand i installed ubuntu.(kernel 3.2.0-23-omap) but i am not getting proper resolution, what to do ? ? Apr 02 12:23:21 ask chipsee? Apr 02 12:23:33 or ubuntu? Apr 02 12:23:44 bradfa, hehe...congrats on updating my profile! ;) Apr 02 12:23:48 bradfa, thanks! Apr 02 12:23:48 bt this is beagle right ? Apr 02 12:24:05 yes, but not chipsee Apr 02 12:24:29 and you have not sacrified a virgin tabled to our demigod av500 Apr 02 12:24:35 tablet* Apr 02 12:24:43 hi mdp Apr 02 12:24:54 afternoon, panto Apr 02 12:25:06 another day of herding beagles Apr 02 12:25:22 so this channel is for what ? Apr 02 12:25:36 selling carpets Apr 02 12:25:46 ynezz, +1 Apr 02 12:26:19 but i wouldnt buy them from ynezz! mine are better quality and cheaper! Apr 02 12:26:29 carpet barn's *huge* spring clearance sale is underway! Apr 02 12:27:23 mine are sold out anyway Apr 02 12:27:32 north korea bought them all Apr 02 12:27:44 stealth flying carpets ftw! Apr 02 12:27:52 OH NOES! Apr 02 12:28:06 now they will attack the US with their nuclear bombsè Apr 02 12:28:07 ! Apr 02 12:28:28 .o0(some people might actually like that) Apr 02 12:30:39 are they at least carpets made of beagle fur? Apr 02 12:31:40 Rotti: #interrupt-cells = <2>; is only needed if you want to play with edge/level triggering, right? Apr 02 12:31:55 jkridner, the expensive ones are Apr 02 12:32:12 jkridner, you'll have to wait for our cheaper carpets, due for release at some later date Apr 02 12:32:13 and the inexpensive ones? cat fur? Apr 02 12:32:39 KotH, I think you're thinking of AllWinner carpets Apr 02 12:32:43 of course, fur makes AA missiles useless Apr 02 12:33:54 koen: i had to enable it to get any interrupts Apr 02 12:34:04 koen: don't know what's the default setting Apr 02 12:34:30 bradfa: i think they use childrens hair Apr 02 12:34:56 KotH, maybe in the new carpet31 models Apr 02 12:45:35 KotH: gah, I found my mystery error on msp Apr 02 12:45:53 its a tiny 128byte one and stack was hitting bss Apr 02 12:46:19 ouch Apr 02 12:46:31 i know that prob Apr 02 12:46:42 i had to move half of my variable to FRAM too Apr 02 12:47:32 I guess I should stick to 32bit CPUs, I dont have that uC mindset :) Apr 02 12:52:23 av500: hehe Apr 02 12:52:37 av500: be glad it's not an 8051 ;) Apr 02 12:53:30 :) Apr 02 12:57:55 brb Apr 02 13:05:27 re Apr 02 13:08:43 KotH: the only way we could improve msp430 would be to switch to 65xx architecture Apr 02 13:11:00 +1 Apr 02 13:20:01 its waaaaaaay too early Apr 02 13:20:28 no kidding Apr 02 13:23:49 mdp: it's not about improving the msp's it's about sadism! (or masochism) :) Apr 02 13:25:08 hehe Apr 02 13:26:00 too bad ST2202 doesn't rule the uC world..it's 65xx ;) Apr 02 13:36:17 the 6502 has been around longer than many people in this room. Apr 02 13:40:47 not me Apr 02 13:42:03 * ogra_ neither ... Apr 02 13:42:21 and now i feel old :/ Apr 02 13:42:39 not me Apr 02 13:42:45 * mdp shakes his cane Apr 02 13:46:10 okay older than mranostay Apr 02 13:54:04 * KotH feels younger Apr 02 13:59:56 mranostay is already old enough. He'd be past his peak if he were an NFL player :) Apr 02 14:00:31 he can still be a team player Apr 02 14:01:40 if he was a Kicker he would be coming into his Prime. Apr 02 14:02:24 hey, even mdp could still be a kicker in the NFL :) Apr 02 14:02:59 lol Apr 02 14:03:18 except I suck at place kicking...tried that before ;) Apr 02 14:03:29 man, me too. I've tried hard at it, for years Apr 02 14:04:15 http://www.bringthecake.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/football.jpg Apr 02 14:04:16 The problem is that every time out, you get a couple of really good kicks in. Besides those, it's 20-30 crappy ones Apr 02 14:04:22 the lesson I learned is that not every soccer play directly translates into a good place kicker Apr 02 14:04:32 s/play/player/ Apr 02 14:05:05 hi everyone, i'd like to use beaglebone to acquire multiple audio channel (8 audio channel) thanks to mcasp. According to you, is it possible ? Apr 02 14:05:09 KotH: the difference is, that particular handegg player could kick that soccer player's ass :) Apr 02 14:05:57 Brownies, the h/w can handle it...after that, it's just s/w...and s/w is easy Apr 02 14:06:14 wtf... random dude all up on my username Apr 02 14:08:18 thanks you for answering :) Apr 02 14:08:34 brownies, I will temper my answer with a quote from Stephen Hawking: "it is theoretically possible to have an astronaut pass thru a wormhole, but he wouldnt' like it very much" Apr 02 14:08:41 yes i'm a random dude ^^ Apr 02 14:08:48 alan_o: but the soccer fans would beat the shit out of handegg fans ;-) Apr 02 14:09:02 -_- Apr 02 14:09:24 * KotH steals all of alan_o's Brownies__ Apr 02 14:09:30 lol another random guy took my nickname ^^ Apr 02 14:09:47 yesterday my wife made Brown-E's...the kids in her class all groaned. Apr 02 14:10:16 ka6sox-away: hehe Apr 02 14:10:20 ka6sox-away: way to troll kids! Apr 02 14:10:31 ya, it was good. Apr 02 14:10:51 today...back to DT Hell... Apr 02 14:11:07 morning detheridge Apr 02 14:11:14 and do you know how to access mcasp from a linux distro (arch) ? Apr 02 14:11:28 KotH: yes, they would. Interesting how all those European pacifists aren't so much when it comes to sports :) Apr 02 14:11:53 Hooliganism Lives on in .eu! Apr 02 14:12:19 Brownies_, I've been trying to answer that question for a couple of weeks. Apr 02 14:12:30 so far...its looking good with enough patience. Apr 02 14:13:03 ok thanks Apr 02 14:13:13 alan_o: football is the most violent thing in europ :-( Apr 02 14:13:22 alan_o: and it got especially bad in the last 10y Apr 02 14:13:39 KotH, the Rabid Fans are... Apr 02 14:19:29 hi everybody, i'd like to ask a question regarding powering the BeagleBone with a LiPo 3.7V battery. Apr 02 14:19:55 The docs mention that the maximimum batery boltage is 3.7V. The LDOs on the TPS65217B are 200mV, meaning that the 3.7V battery LDOs can supply the needed 3.3V after the battery starts discharging as long as it does not go below 3.5V Apr 02 14:20:12 What would happen once the battery goes below this 3.5V point? Apr 02 14:20:25 the systems associated with the 3.3V will just shut down? Apr 02 14:21:04 (corresponding to the LDO3 and LDO4 on the BeagleBone) Apr 02 14:21:59 sorry for the silly question but i'm quite new to the embedded world Apr 02 14:23:11 i'm thinking about using an extra switcher to boost the battery voltage level to 3.5V, is this a terrible idea? Apr 02 14:34:26 <_av500_> 3.5V is your cutoff voltage anyway Apr 02 14:34:33 <_av500_> below that you are damaging it Apr 02 14:34:49 <_av500_> liPo is usable between 3.6 and 4.2V Apr 02 14:35:31 how do you connect physically several dac to mcasp ? Apr 02 14:35:36 (noob question ^^) Apr 02 14:35:59 <_av500_> several? Apr 02 14:36:53 Brownies_, each DAC is attached to a separate axr() with each one having 2 channels. Apr 02 14:37:13 they can be driven by i2s, LJ or RJ Apr 02 14:41:07 erle_: best way to answer such questions: Apr 02 14:41:12 erle_: 1) read the schematic Apr 02 14:41:24 erle_: 2) read the datasheets of the parts Apr 02 14:41:30 erle_: 3) read the datasheets again Apr 02 14:41:36 erle_: 4) read the datasheets carefully Apr 02 14:41:46 4) read the datasheets of similar parts Apr 02 14:41:59 oh.. and dont forget to read the datasheets Apr 02 14:42:09 prpplague: that's advanced stuff ;) Apr 02 14:42:31 shouldnt you mention that erle_ should read the datasheets first ? Apr 02 14:42:40 prpplague: btw: do you know why modern LDO and opamp datasheets do not contain any circuit diagram anymore? Apr 02 14:43:00 ogra_: he first needs to know which parts there are :) Apr 02 14:43:09 KotH: because many people don't really care about that anymore Apr 02 14:43:30 KotH, ugh, tricky ! Apr 02 14:43:41 prpplague: well.. it would help in reverse engineering the datasheet Apr 02 14:45:08 Brownies_, when you first came on I thought you wanted to capture audio (acquire audio) not play back (attach multiple DACs). Apr 02 14:52:18 morning friends and enemies Apr 02 14:52:52 bbl...that nasty 4 letter word calls Apr 02 14:52:56 morning mranostay Apr 02 15:00:39 Thanks for your answers KotH ogra_ and prpplague Apr 02 15:01:47 I'll do as you advice Apr 02 15:02:10 still, what about using an extra switcher to boost the battery voltage level to 3.5V? Apr 02 15:02:18 and do not trust the datasheet Apr 02 15:02:25 i don't think that will be answered in the datasheet Apr 02 15:02:36 erle_: you can do that... Apr 02 15:02:51 erle_: but ask an EE guy for the implications of the exact circuit you will be using Apr 02 15:03:08 erle_: why to 3.5V? Apr 02 15:03:12 you already have 3.5V Apr 02 15:03:25 as I said, you shut down at 3.5V Apr 02 15:03:52 KotH: I see, thanks, i will do that Apr 02 15:04:17 the battery will discharge and it's voltage will go below 3.5V Apr 02 15:04:25 [17:03:24] as I said, you shut down at 3.5V Apr 02 15:04:31 [16:34:26] <_av500_> 3.5V is your cutoff voltage anyway Apr 02 15:04:34 i just want to extend the lifetime of my design as much as possible Apr 02 15:04:46 ... Apr 02 15:04:56 maybe i'm just saying stupid Apr 02 15:05:04 stuuf Apr 02 15:05:07 stuff* Apr 02 15:05:13 apologies if that's the case Apr 02 15:05:35 http://www.ibt-power.com/Battery_packs/Li_Polymer/Li_Po_DiscGph.JPG Apr 02 15:05:51 how much exactly do you gain between 3.5V and 3V? Apr 02 15:05:59 3%? Apr 02 15:07:18 That's a good point Apr 02 15:09:18 beside, if battery lifetime is important, use an mps430 instead Apr 02 15:12:00 i appreciate the advice but there's a need for a microprocessor in my project. The MSP430 although a great device does not fulfill the needs Apr 02 15:17:15 erle_: you want to connect to the PMIC battery pins directly? Apr 02 15:17:36 in other words, where do you plan to connect your LiPo? Apr 02 15:18:58 yeap, I'd like to connect the LiPo battery to the PMIC Apr 02 15:20:01 then read all the PMIC data sheet :) Apr 02 15:26:02 @av500 of course, i will do as you advice. Thanks Apr 02 15:45:58 wmat_: ping Apr 02 18:18:25 Debian! Apr 02 18:24:28 bradfa: die Apr 02 18:24:31 i mean :) Apr 02 18:24:38 * bradfa croaks Apr 02 18:28:20 mranostay, post more gerber screen shots Apr 02 18:28:33 I enjoy learning from the mocking that ensues Apr 02 18:29:05 mdp thinks I know git. mdp is funny Apr 02 18:29:23 what "out of the box" experienece would you like from your beagle Apr 02 18:29:39 mrpackethead: it should know tricks. :) Apr 02 18:29:44 don't beagles have to be housebroken? Apr 02 18:29:53 that's true. Apr 02 18:30:00 hehe Apr 02 18:30:17 bradfa: I enjoy getting mocked for my gerbers. Apr 02 18:30:21 I'm looking at you, av500 Apr 02 18:30:33 :3 Apr 02 18:30:41 bradfa: sure i need to have my ego crushed this early in the week Apr 02 18:31:01 mranostay: Oh, come on, it's almost hump day! Apr 02 18:31:05 is the bacon board not finished. Apr 02 18:31:44 I had Canadian bacon this weekend. Was disappointed. Apr 02 18:31:47 SELECT ATSC Apr 02 18:32:17 Shadyman, who's you? Apr 02 18:32:43 bradfa: no one beaglicious. Apr 02 18:32:53 We're all beaglisicious Apr 02 18:32:55 I had some bacon but its a rare thing now, we only eat it once a month, and everyday when we visit the USA Apr 02 18:33:12 ^ Apr 02 18:33:19 what does that say about your bacon mrpackethead ? Apr 02 18:33:45 not much. It says a lot about how bad the rest of the food is in the USA Apr 02 18:33:50 that you have to eat bacon Apr 02 18:34:24 mrpackethead: get out :P Apr 02 18:35:50 hahaha Apr 02 18:36:14 bradfa: crap Russ is on to us:) Apr 02 18:36:47 haha Apr 02 18:36:48 * bradfa runs! Apr 02 18:37:33 run for the hiiiiiiills Apr 02 18:37:41 run foooooor your liiiiiiiife Apr 02 18:40:53 mrpackethead: so i see bitcoin is at $100 for some odd reason Apr 02 18:41:05 * bradfa missed out on that one Apr 02 18:41:17 ka6sox-farfarawa: do you know if you are sending your patches soon? Apr 02 18:41:49 yes, I do know working with dethridge now Apr 02 18:42:09 (but its tough being on a mountaintop to see my desktop well) Apr 02 18:42:58 lol. Apr 02 18:43:11 because the Euro is unstable Apr 02 18:43:25 bradfa: tulip mania? Apr 02 18:43:50 theres been a big bank robbery in Cyprus Apr 02 18:43:53 mranostay, tulips are nice looking Apr 02 18:44:17 bizzare they only took a portion of the money in each account Apr 02 18:45:27 heh Apr 02 18:45:47 yeah gg EU Apr 02 18:50:52 http://geekboy.it/projects/arduino/pc-keyboard-made-from-40-beer-cans-an-arduino-raspberry-pi Apr 02 18:51:10 pefect project for a rasbperry Pi and and Arduio.. make a keyboard Apr 02 18:59:41 mrpackethead: too many cans Apr 02 19:00:09 mrpackethead: if Moore's law holds up, we'll be able to do that next year with 20 cans. Apr 02 19:01:28 koen: I saw you got my patches in. Thanks! Apr 02 19:03:19