**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Apr 15 02:59:57 2013 Apr 15 04:06:18 hmmmm Apr 15 04:09:57 ds2, yes?\ Apr 15 04:11:42 ka6sox-away: oh right... your mails to the gsoc list was in moderation (I get the moderation mails but I need to find my PW). someone, probally jason, approved them yesterday Apr 15 04:12:06 ah, didn't understand that was the case... Apr 15 04:12:30 well...I guess I got moderated in. Apr 15 04:12:51 any address other then the subscribed address gets moderated Apr 15 04:13:13 sorry for being unclear... was busy with stuff so I tried to tap out a quick message Apr 15 04:13:38 thats wierd because I used the forum to initate this. Apr 15 04:13:48 so I guess I won't do that anymore Apr 15 04:13:54 did you post from a different address? Apr 15 04:14:24 i really do need to find my passwd though Apr 15 04:14:47 no, from the forum that I am subscribed to Apr 15 04:14:53 forums suck... Apr 15 04:15:02 ohhh it wasn't purely a email? Apr 15 04:15:16 no, it was the forum email thingy Apr 15 04:15:20 then no idea. i deal with it as if it was a fance major domo list :D Apr 15 04:15:24 (google groups) Apr 15 04:15:37 gotcha Apr 15 04:16:03 maybe jason changed something. I donno Apr 15 04:17:32 there is a guy who is asking about the IIO stuff. Apr 15 04:18:08 I am still behind on email.. let me find it Apr 15 04:18:49 he asked in -gsoc Apr 15 04:18:53 oh and also email Apr 15 04:18:57 Alessandro Apr 15 04:19:55 aka Axexo Apr 15 04:19:59 er Alexo Apr 15 04:22:21 I sent him your way :) Apr 15 04:22:29 I saw the mail, didn't see IIO Apr 15 04:22:36 let me scrub the list again Apr 15 04:22:50 he spoke to me..I'll find it...jas Apr 15 04:23:23 'k Apr 15 04:27:56 wierd...can't find it Apr 15 04:28:10 name sounds familiar Apr 15 06:54:22 goodmorning.. ( UMT ) Apr 15 06:59:28 mrpackethead, almost here too. Apr 15 07:06:15 JIHAD! Apr 15 07:07:36 I'm sorry that was good morning ( GMT ) Apr 15 07:07:38 doh.. Apr 15 07:07:44 good mornign ( UGT ) Apr 15 07:09:03 gm Apr 15 07:09:57 ive just hand built a produciton sample Apr 15 07:10:00 and it works Apr 15 07:10:05 without issue! Apr 15 07:10:06 horah! Apr 15 07:10:26 my team got a bit behind so i spent a day in workshop Apr 15 07:22:51 [kernel] koenkooi pushed 1 new commit to 3.8: http://git.io/t9FXgA Apr 15 07:22:51 kernel/3.8 0a42c2d Koen Kooi: 3.8: update to 3.8.7... Apr 15 07:23:20 mrpackethead: did you sampled that beagle connectors from that china guy? Apr 15 07:23:29 yup Apr 15 07:23:30 got some Apr 15 07:23:33 they seem just fine Apr 15 07:23:52 nice Apr 15 07:23:58 i'm ordering in 1000 pces Apr 15 07:24:38 whee Apr 15 07:25:17 how much would it be approx. for 100pcs to .cz ? Apr 15 07:25:31 if your previous offer still stands :) Apr 15 07:26:24 \o/ scope floppy works again Apr 15 07:26:40 flopywhat? Apr 15 07:26:51 sorry Apr 15 07:26:57 it was all the rage back then Apr 15 07:27:06 not gonna dump the scope due to that Apr 15 07:27:10 still on my project list...a 3.5 floppy drive that isn't a floppy drive Apr 15 07:27:16 same here Apr 15 07:27:21 takes usb sticks or connects via network Apr 15 07:27:21 its to be had for ~200€ Apr 15 07:27:26 usb stick Apr 15 07:27:29 dammit, beat me to it Apr 15 07:27:33 or I connect a fake printer Apr 15 07:27:41 seems like you could make it for cheaper Apr 15 07:27:41 toaster? Apr 15 07:27:50 Russ: sure Apr 15 07:28:27 or maybe a 3.5 floppy disk that isn't a floppy disk Apr 15 07:30:17 that exists Apr 15 07:30:39 http://www.amazon.com/SmartDisk-FlashPath-Floppy-Adapter-SmartMedia/dp/B00005QXW7 Apr 15 07:31:07 http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-FlashPath-Floppy-Reader-SDDR-21-01/dp/B0000488VL/ref=pd_sim_sbs_e_5 Apr 15 07:31:23 now if there was a smartmedia to sdcard adaptor :) Apr 15 07:31:32 what's this about a driver? Apr 15 07:32:06 av500: Probably a microsd to smartmedia. Apr 15 07:32:23 av500: But it probably wouldn't be able to handle >64mb in the disk thing Apr 15 07:32:53 Shadyman: too bad, my scope cannot handle >1.4 MB :) Apr 15 07:32:59 heh Apr 15 07:33:19 does it have that IEEE output? Apr 15 07:33:23 i forget the number Apr 15 07:33:29 the scopey one Apr 15 07:34:52 nope Apr 15 07:34:57 only floppy and 25pin printer Apr 15 07:35:15 printer? interesting. Apr 15 07:36:11 Russ: 200 was a mishear Apr 15 07:36:15 20 rather Apr 15 07:36:23 http://www.ebay.de/itm/USB-Floppy-Drive-Emulator-Disketten-Laufwerk-fur-Industrial-Control-Equipment-/280840966844 Apr 15 07:36:54 that'd do it. Apr 15 07:37:27 Though I bet you could fit a tiny OLED screen on there and some buttons to change disk images, too. Apr 15 07:38:34 http://www.ebay.de/itm/SFRM72-DU26-USB-Floppy-Drive-Emulator-Disketten-Laufwerk-fur-Industrial-Control-/290681262580?pt=DE_Computer_Floppy_Zip_Streamer&hash=item43adf411f4 Apr 15 07:38:37 need the slim one Apr 15 07:38:51 and some have a 2 digit display and buttons Apr 15 07:38:57 http://www.aliexpress.com/discount/discount-floppy-emulator.html Apr 15 07:39:02 av500: I was thinking of GPIB/IEEE488. Because http://dangerousprototypes.com/2013/04/12/p01-118-geepibber-project/ Apr 15 07:40:03 Shadyman: that is interesting for my power supply Apr 15 07:40:11 that has IEEE488 Apr 15 07:40:25 :) Apr 15 07:40:49 Fun fact, the Commodore PET and its accessories used IEEE488 too. Apr 15 09:51:14 hi Apr 15 09:52:04 hi Apr 15 09:52:08 lo Apr 15 09:52:17 z Apr 15 09:52:44 guys any adive Apr 15 09:53:13 no, we're all on dry land, nobody diving today Apr 15 09:53:15 guys any advice to connect two or more beaglebone using ad-hoc wifi? Apr 15 09:53:32 why are you using two nicks? Apr 15 09:53:59 we need a wifi adapter Apr 15 09:54:09 that doesn't answer the question Apr 15 09:54:23 we are two guys Apr 15 09:54:32 whatever Apr 15 09:55:28 mru: who answers the question Apr 15 09:55:36 * koen is trying to figure out what the libpng dudes are smoking Apr 15 09:55:40 that git repo is a mess Apr 15 09:56:01 koen: their email addresses should answer that question Apr 15 09:56:06 @acm.org, say no more Apr 15 09:57:03 polimi: to answer your question, use any usb wifi stick that supports the mode you need and do as you would on any other computer Apr 15 09:57:32 the thing is, we actually don't know which wifi adapter we should buy Apr 15 09:57:45 then do some research Apr 15 09:58:10 1. find out what your favourite vendor sells Apr 15 09:58:14 2. google them Apr 15 09:58:15 bomber: I use a D-Link DWA-140 at home, would that one suffice? Apr 15 09:58:24 3. check for needed support Apr 15 09:58:28 4. check for linux drivers Apr 15 09:58:33 there, exact steps for you Apr 15 09:58:50 #exact-steps? Apr 15 09:59:01 someone said exact steps Apr 15 09:59:18 next thign some swiss guy will say JIHAD Apr 15 10:00:03 jackmitchell: is it working well? Apr 15 10:00:03 <_troll_> JIHAD! Apr 15 10:00:19 bomber: it works well on my Linux box at home Apr 15 10:00:33 it must be monday someplace Apr 15 10:00:49 is it working on a beaglebone? Apr 15 10:01:01 bomber: I haven't used it on a BeagleBone Apr 15 10:01:12 I've used it on a Raspberyr Pi though Apr 15 10:01:39 anything rpi can do bone can do better Apr 15 10:01:41 @jkidner : Hey, Sam here, i'd emailed you about the node-webkit based getting-started app... from what i understand, the first part in the project - Provide instructions for getting up-and-running with the board based (incorporate the Getting Started Guide) - this is already done right? Apr 15 10:02:02 mru, can it suck better ? Apr 15 10:02:05 mru: beagle does'nt have a hype-lib that is nearly as big Apr 15 10:02:25 mrpackethead: we can bitbang it on the pru Apr 15 10:03:53 mru, thats cheating Apr 15 10:04:13 jackmitchell: ok we'll try it Apr 15 10:06:48 bomber: they're cheap and widely used, so you shouldn't have many issues Apr 15 10:07:19 bomber: the tiny little Realtek wireless modules also tend to be good Apr 15 10:07:21 jackmitchell: really? I've never noticed any such correlation Apr 15 10:07:56 because we need to connect two or more beaglebones ad-hoc, and apparently no one has already done it Apr 15 10:08:33 the bone is just a detail Apr 15 10:08:38 mru: they're supplied with Virgin Media wireless hubs here in the UK, so the hardware isn't necessarily cheap but with over supply they have become cheap Apr 15 10:08:41 people have been doing adhoc networking for a long time Apr 15 10:08:45 what about drivers? Apr 15 10:09:22 so it's good hardware and very widely used Apr 15 10:09:34 isp-supplied hw usually sucks badly Apr 15 10:09:49 routers do, usb dongles are fairly generic Apr 15 10:10:11 and _anything_ made by realtek sucks by definition Apr 15 10:10:25 a custom usb wireless stick usually isn't worth the effort to ruin with custom firmware Apr 15 10:10:44 no need, they already suck Apr 15 10:11:06 well, I've had nothing but good experiences with the 140 Apr 15 10:11:15 and they're dirt cheap Apr 15 10:11:28 ok thanks Apr 15 10:14:51 realtek and good in the same sentence? Apr 15 10:15:00 * koen sets knife on fire and stabs libpng with it Apr 15 10:15:19 * mru twists koen's knife Apr 15 10:15:20 I've honestly never had a problem with any realtek networking chips Apr 15 10:15:30 how sound chips, well.... that's another story Apr 15 10:15:33 then you're an anomaly Apr 15 10:15:49 then you haven't asked it to do any real work. Apr 15 10:16:00 libpng 1.6.x seems broken beyond repair Apr 15 10:16:11 which distro runs on raspberry? Apr 15 10:16:20 probably not, I only require lolcatz to survive Apr 15 10:16:27 koen: which madness did you run into? Apr 15 10:16:30 * koen checks if he ended up in #rpi Apr 15 10:16:59 mru: WARNING **: Missing icon connman-signal-01: Fatal error reading PNG image file: Decompression error in IDAT Apr 15 10:17:00 koen: easy to check, just say 'fuck' and see if you get instabanned Apr 15 10:17:12 and pkgconfig problems of course Apr 15 10:17:14 koen: and is the file good? Apr 15 10:17:18 it is Apr 15 10:17:21 well, pkgconfig is broken by design Apr 15 10:17:55 and rampant misuse doesn't make matters any better Apr 15 10:18:21 v1.6.1 screws up NEON detection, so if you don't pass arguments to configure you end up with missing symbols Apr 15 10:18:55 --enable-arm=neon has, I kid you not, 4 options Apr 15 10:19:00 on, off, check, api Apr 15 10:19:02 ah yes, they did some might absurd stuff there Apr 15 10:19:08 +y Apr 15 10:23:59 it's not even 12:30 and I already have a desire to get drunk after looking at libpng Apr 15 10:24:48 then you can imagine what I've been doing... I wrote that neon code Apr 15 10:24:57 not the fucked-up detection though Apr 15 10:25:05 they did that all by themselves Apr 15 10:55:02 av500: i recently saw a pic in one of the many magazines we get of a scope with an floppy slot... and a usb stick sticking out from it :-) Apr 15 10:59:12 KotH: maybe it had an floppy-to-usb adapter Apr 15 11:00:49 1541 WTF Apr 15 11:00:57 FTW Apr 15 11:01:12 keesj: dude! you! old! Apr 15 11:02:16 recently purchased http://store.go4retro.com/zoomfloppy/ so modern PC can also enjoy a good floppy Apr 15 11:02:22 tomba: most likely that the guy who took the picture, has never seen a floppy before in his life Apr 15 11:19:04 * av500 just ordered a floppy simulator with USB Apr 15 11:32:54 av500: what for? Apr 15 11:33:24 TDS3014 Apr 15 11:33:25 av500: gadgetismus im fortgeschrittenem stadium? Apr 15 11:33:32 teh scope Apr 15 11:33:39 ah.. that makes snese Apr 15 11:33:41 sense* Apr 15 11:33:58 lol Apr 15 11:34:05 also, bored :) Apr 15 11:34:07 av500: that's the scope i've seen on the pic! Apr 15 11:35:18 :) Apr 15 11:37:27 now... i wouldnt be surprised if you took that pic and someone else picked it up and printed it ;) Apr 15 12:17:54 jkridner: awake? Apr 15 12:46:28 koen: not yet Apr 15 13:57:30 koen: hi Apr 15 13:59:49 was out and about this morning. back settled in now. Apr 15 14:02:41 jkridner: I forgot what I wanted to ask, so it's likely not important :) Apr 15 14:02:49 :) Apr 15 14:31:15 hi i need gui on my beagleboard xm and i am totally a newbie what should i do Apr 15 14:31:47 doesnt it come with one? Apr 15 14:32:03 the demo image boots into X and some UI, no? Apr 15 14:33:01 actually i am using a 2nd hand bb thus it have a ubuntu 12.04 os Apr 15 14:33:05 12.04.1 Apr 15 14:33:16 does it have a gui interface Apr 15 14:33:50 grab a default image Apr 15 14:34:19 ?? Apr 15 14:34:34 grab a factory default image Apr 15 14:34:40 write to sdcard Apr 15 14:35:37 how can i reach this image Apr 15 14:35:50 http://downloads.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/ Apr 15 14:36:03 also by following links from http://beagleboard.org Apr 15 14:36:06 and/or using google Apr 15 14:36:16 thanx Apr 15 14:40:22 morning Apr 15 14:40:50 hath broken? Apr 15 14:40:55 troll Apr 15 14:50:10 why did you break morning? Apr 15 14:50:12 that isn't nice Apr 15 14:50:50 wasnt that cat stevens originally ? Apr 15 14:51:15 what was? Apr 15 14:51:25 breaking the morning ... Apr 15 14:51:34 he sang about it afterwards iirc Apr 15 14:51:44 dunno, but bob dylan says everything is broken... Apr 15 14:51:53 that too Apr 15 14:53:15 ogra_, ya, Cat Stevens Apr 15 14:53:45 * mranostay gets ready for 8a G+ Hangout interview Apr 15 14:53:55 who with? Apr 15 14:54:02 Linaro Apr 15 14:54:16 you want to hire them ? Apr 15 14:54:39 the reverse Apr 15 14:54:47 : Apr 15 14:54:50 ) Apr 15 14:58:31 afk for 10 Apr 15 14:58:59 10 what? fortnights? Apr 15 15:01:05 It's dangerous to let us pick the units Apr 15 15:01:27 10A Apr 15 15:01:30 If I was doing something about factory programming/testing of an almost to be named board I'd set the units to milliseconds Apr 15 15:02:36 and what about the colour? Apr 15 15:03:28 milliblack Apr 15 15:03:54 we should name 'black' a new unit for something, not sure what Apr 15 15:05:35 mru, in the US that means it costs $1bn if its "black" Apr 15 15:07:07 tactical beaglebone Apr 15 15:07:30 No, then you have to rename it the beagletalon. Apr 15 15:08:30 jkridner would have to repaint the Beaglecam Apr 15 15:13:36 hello, anyone can help me ? i need basic help :) Apr 15 15:13:41 no Apr 15 15:13:51 :/ Apr 15 15:14:24 for those who'd like to help : I own a beaglebone+dvi-cape and i would like to install ubuntu Apr 15 15:24:40 Vicolaships: probably get more help if you lead with the problem... succinctly Apr 15 15:59:27 No way to use the DVI-D cape to connect my Sony-TV using a HDMI-HDMI-cable ? Apr 15 15:59:33 for the beaglebone that is Apr 15 16:00:19 jkroon: HDMI is backwards compatible with DVI-D interface Apr 15 16:00:56 oh. so it should work u think ? Apr 15 16:01:19 http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/30 Apr 15 16:02:28 good rule :-D Apr 15 16:02:41 the bestest Apr 15 16:12:50 Unless I can pass some parameters to the dvi driver, I dont think it works :-( Apr 15 16:31:18 ok, so maybe it should work, but that the resolution 1024x768 is hardcoded in the kernel, and my tv doesnt support that resolution Apr 15 16:31:33 so where to find where its hardcoded Apr 15 16:34:35 hmm? shouldn't that be part of the kernel cmd-line? Apr 15 16:35:06 dm8tbr, from what I gather from google it aint implemented, values are hardcoded. maybe things have improved though Apr 15 16:37:27 no idea Apr 15 16:37:34 dvimode=hd720 Apr 15 16:39:16 koen, all: trying to debug a boot issue. I tried the Angstrom 12.12 filesystem but with a 3.2 kernel I built, it soon stalls after filesystem mount succeeds. The same FS works with a recent 3.8 kernel. I'm configuring with omap2plus_defconfig. I have enabled CGROUP_SCHED. Any ideas on how to debug this? Apr 15 16:39:28 FS is : Angstrom-systemd-image-eglibc-ipk-v2012.12-beagleboard.tar.gz Apr 15 16:40:55 last messages seen on console are at: http://hastebin.com/ritatagahu.sm Apr 15 16:41:08 board is a beaglebone Apr 15 16:43:40 koen, thanks, will try that Apr 15 16:44:20 hi jkroon Apr 15 16:44:30 woglinde, hi Apr 15 16:48:26 mru: so did rmk cool off? :) Apr 15 16:48:50 koen, can I easily append that with creating a uEnv.txt-oneliner ? Apr 15 16:49:15 think I'm missing CONFIG_DEVTMPFS, that could be it. Apr 15 16:49:38 jkroon: you should, jkridner|work added the magic for that Apr 15 16:49:52 or will I have to duplicate and modify the "builtin" bootscript in u-boot Apr 15 16:49:59 devtmpfs, because devfs was such a *great* idea the first time Apr 15 16:50:11 koen, cool Apr 15 16:53:44 I like systemd but for the fact that the stock configs in the kernel specially for OMAP don't boot so an update/rebuild is often required. Apr 15 16:53:55 It'd be nice to have one kernel booting on multiple filesystems thing Apr 15 16:54:10 stock configs inthe official beagle tree works fine Apr 15 16:54:58 watch the ELC kernel bof video, you'll see a guy with a bald spot hecking mdp about kernel configs not working Apr 15 16:55:50 ok, is anyone around here from .de and owns/runs a company? Apr 15 16:56:33 bbs Apr 15 16:57:00 koen: you, panto, and prpplague are so easy to spot in ELC pictures :P Apr 15 16:57:13 mranostay didnt linus say he see now violation Apr 15 16:57:18 don't hate us because we have reflective cranial properties Apr 15 16:57:18 args Apr 15 16:57:24 s/now/no Apr 15 16:58:00 pnato why? Apr 15 16:58:08 my friend runs company Apr 15 16:58:15 https://plus.google.com/105872806106213007611/posts/TjAda8bbJC6 Apr 15 16:58:26 see, linus is adorable Apr 15 17:01:01 mru: btw, we broke the cycle for black Apr 15 17:01:08 mru: ddr3 will run at 400MHz out of the box Apr 15 17:01:20 not like all the other beagles where it's underclocked :) Apr 15 17:01:26 you always say that Apr 15 17:01:33 and is L2 cache enabled properly? Apr 15 17:01:45 no idea on that Apr 15 17:02:08 musketeers make a better world: http://i.imgur.com/QVzff03.jpg Apr 15 17:02:23 (pre-friday link warning) Apr 15 17:03:04 mranostay: hehe Apr 15 17:03:19 mranostay: indeed, is it my shirts or is it my massive bald head? Apr 15 17:03:25 ruchika: ! Apr 15 17:03:30 ruchika: hey there! Apr 15 17:04:13 koen, whiners ;) Apr 15 17:05:34 KotH: hehe, nice one Apr 15 17:07:44 boots with devtmpfs. yay. Apr 15 17:10:49 swedes, we have ballzz Apr 15 17:11:01 koen: for kernel developers not using beagleboard kernels, would be good to request merge of config options that boot stock kernels on beaglebone. not everyone would use beagleboard.org kernels.. good to stay as close to mainline as possible. Or push a beagleboard defconfig patch upstream. :) Apr 15 17:11:41 The other annoying thing was conman or whatever messing up the networking screwing NFS Apr 15 17:11:48 on boot Apr 15 17:11:51 johnsmith1, +1 Apr 15 17:11:59 I hate connman with a passion for doing that Apr 15 17:12:05 push a beagle defconfig upstream? Apr 15 17:12:13 linus will delete arm if someone does that Apr 15 17:12:18 does conman do anything even resembling useful? Apr 15 17:12:43 it's a program to troll your networking config so that you don't have to do it manually Apr 15 17:12:46 but other than that, no. Apr 15 17:13:32 yes, atleast it shouldn't reconfigure already configured interfaces, that's a bit lame Apr 15 17:13:54 deleting conman with pleasure fixed all my networking issues. Apr 15 17:16:09 otherwise i like angstrom :) and the public feeds Apr 15 17:16:54 Hi Apr 15 17:17:28 I have a Beagleboard xm with TI provided MLO, U-BOOT.BIN, uImage, and uEnv.txt on the SD card from which it boots. This does not have support for mt9t112 VGA camera from Aptina SO, I downloaded beagleboard-validation-linux-beaglebardXM-camwork.tar.gz from http://gitorious.org/beagleboard-validation/linux/trees/beaglebardXM-camwork which has support for the mt9t112 sensor and angstrom-2011.03-i686-linux-armv7a-linux-gnueabi-too Apr 15 17:17:55 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/toolchains/ The SD card has 2 partitions, /media/boot and media/Narcissus-rootfs Apr 15 17:18:06 koen, so I see that "dvimode=hd720" is passed a kernel argumet now.. still no seeing much on the tele though Apr 15 17:18:15 I built the kernel image (uImage) and I copied it to the /media/boot as well as media/Narcissus-rootfs on the sD card. Powered up the Beagleboard xm. It booted but I get the below error Apr 15 17:18:38 Starting udev [ 12.397216] Error: Driver 'mt9t112' is already registered, Apr 15 17:19:03 I have all sensors disabled except for mt9t112 via the menuconfig. Please help. I have been trying to solve this for sometime. I am attaching the uEnv.txt file and the console boot output. Any help/suggestions would be very much appreciated. Apr 15 17:22:20 quit Apr 15 17:27:17 mru: cat collars are cruel? Apr 15 17:27:28 yes Apr 15 17:27:49 even lion collars? Apr 15 17:28:22 especially those Apr 15 17:28:48 if it gets out how is someone suppose to call me? :) Apr 15 17:28:53 but how can I keep my pet lion from mauling me without it? Apr 15 17:28:53 and how shall i walk my pet lion? Apr 15 17:29:11 i suppose i could chip the cat but that is too much work :) Apr 15 17:29:15 panto: gmta :) Apr 15 17:29:37 don't you rfid tag cats over there? Apr 15 17:30:06 mru: yeah well yes just mine isn't Apr 15 17:30:17 mranostay: chip? chip as in "explodes when leaving the premises"? Apr 15 17:30:31 KotH: as in has the owner information on it Apr 15 17:30:37 it's a simple procedure Apr 15 17:30:42 mranostay: lame! Apr 15 17:30:43 or more likely a serial number with a database Apr 15 17:31:06 mru: at 14 i don't think it is really needed Apr 15 17:32:14 14? that was yesterday and I don't see the relevance Apr 15 17:32:44 do I need power management in the kernel maybe.. Apr 15 17:34:04 jkroon: dont be a maybe Apr 15 17:34:22 KotH, i have to, since i dont know Apr 15 17:35:57 ouch Apr 15 17:35:59 http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Security-hole-can-damage-heating-systems-1842489.html Apr 15 17:37:08 hi jackmitchel Apr 15 17:37:10 av500: http://www.h-online.com/open/features/Replacing-Google-Reader-1829086.html Apr 15 17:38:31 koth let has hack av500's nano plant Apr 15 17:38:36 args Apr 15 17:38:37 us Apr 15 17:38:48 to fast to tired Apr 15 18:09:35 * KotH starts hacking Apr 15 18:13:14 how to connect usb cammera Apr 15 18:13:36 to beagle board xm Apr 15 18:14:13 1)take beagle in one hand Apr 15 18:14:21 2) take camera in other hand Apr 15 18:14:27 3) plug camera into beagle Apr 15 18:14:29 4) ???? Apr 15 18:14:33 5) profit Apr 15 18:15:09 library for it Apr 15 18:15:25 you can do that in a library if you want Apr 15 18:15:54 as long as it doesn't make noise Apr 15 18:16:52 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kMWLYYcAYw Apr 15 18:19:13 very funny mother fuker !! shove it up to ur ass !!! ] Apr 15 18:19:41 * KotH pats kannan on the head Apr 15 18:19:47 here, have an oreo Apr 15 18:19:53 now be nice and go play somewhere else Apr 15 18:19:59 u suck my dick Apr 15 18:20:03 ah jkridner Apr 15 18:21:50 ah, the joys of community Apr 15 18:22:17 dont worry, this guy will be very successfull in his life Apr 15 18:22:47 he might walk funny with a camera up his bum though Apr 15 18:22:55 anyway, dinner Apr 15 18:23:01 enjoy! Apr 15 18:23:07 sounds a lot like a vp at my former employer Apr 15 18:23:32 biggest asshole I ever met Apr 15 18:23:41 hmm? Apr 15 18:23:56 that's the first time i hear that an impolite asshole makes it to the top of a company Apr 15 18:24:18 and I was told I wasn't nice enough for a minor promotion Apr 15 18:24:26 lol Apr 15 18:24:42 I quit shortly after that Apr 15 18:25:02 right choice Apr 15 18:25:46 and by the looks of things, I'll have to repeat it Apr 15 18:25:59 hmm... you know you have used too much glue if you can still smell it after half an hour of keeping all the windows open Apr 15 18:26:13 mru: :-( Apr 15 18:26:16 that bad? Apr 15 18:26:20 I'm not letting my arm boss humiliate me again Apr 15 18:26:43 o_0 Apr 15 18:26:46 a boss should never do that Apr 15 18:27:18 fucker gave me a 'needs improvement' rating Apr 15 18:27:28 0_o Apr 15 18:27:32 in what sense? Apr 15 18:27:35 technical? Apr 15 18:27:47 overall Apr 15 18:28:00 cost me 25% of my bonus Apr 15 18:28:13 wtf Apr 15 18:28:18 said I sucked at 'teamwork' Apr 15 18:29:26 let me guess, you told the others what they did wrong w/o lining it with wadding? Apr 15 18:29:40 but then again, his wife is a priest, apparently Apr 15 18:30:05 he wasn't very specific Apr 15 18:30:28 they never are Apr 15 18:31:06 has anyone else got beaglebone+dvi cape working with connecting it to a Sony TV ? Apr 15 18:31:38 * KotH doesnt have the dvi cape Apr 15 18:32:17 jkroon: if in doubt, try a different monitor Apr 15 18:32:39 KotH, yeah.. only have my tv at the moment Apr 15 18:32:45 KotH, you missed JIHAD! in the steps. incorrect Apr 15 18:33:37 mdp: damn! that's what pissed him off! how could i forget it?!? Apr 15 18:34:11 KotH, and chocolate..you can shove that too :P Apr 15 18:34:29 i'd rather eat that Apr 15 18:34:59 must itemize on the stepz then Apr 15 18:53:46 re Apr 15 19:01:20 g'night good trolls Apr 15 19:01:24 don't go silent into the night Apr 15 19:16:43 mdp: http://i.imgur.com/Stfky0K.jpg Apr 15 19:17:56 heh Apr 15 19:24:00 mdp: you know.. i like those "guns cause violence" discussions Apr 15 19:24:12 mdp: reducing a shitload of factors into one single argument Apr 15 19:24:26 mdp: and leaving out that cold weather is the most important factor ;) Apr 15 19:24:53 chicago has more politicians elected by dead people too Apr 15 19:24:56 forgot that stat Apr 15 19:25:04 hehe Apr 15 19:26:48 finland: 118 or 2.2/1000 Apr 15 19:28:36 Columbia: 14,746 Apr 15 19:29:26 India: 42,923 Apr 15 19:29:29 wierd. Apr 15 19:29:48 what is? Apr 15 19:30:03 those are the numbers for last year (as reported) Apr 15 19:30:11 ka6sox, what would Spock say? ;) Apr 15 19:30:27 highly logical. Apr 15 19:31:31 good night boys Apr 15 19:31:45 niters Apr 15 19:32:03 nite Apr 15 19:35:48 is the production image for the BBB usable on an A4 rev. board? Apr 15 20:07:08 gun talk again? Apr 15 20:07:10 christ Apr 15 20:08:20 mranostay, he had a gun, too Apr 15 20:08:41 mranostay, how'd the hangout go? Apr 15 20:09:53 christ had a gun? Apr 15 20:10:02 mru, sure, why not? Apr 15 20:10:19 or are we doing euphemisms? Apr 15 20:10:36 * bradfa is just bad at trolling Apr 15 20:10:49 bradfa: practise on rmk Apr 15 20:11:54 k Apr 15 20:12:09 mru: easy target Apr 15 20:12:27 so good practice for bad trolls Apr 15 20:12:31 bradfa: well i remember i pay my ISP too much for shitty service for one :P Apr 15 20:12:37 ha Apr 15 20:12:51 that's the beauty of voip and video chat Apr 15 20:13:58 bombing at the Boston Marathon? Apr 15 20:14:13 Explosions, no confirmed bombs so far. Apr 15 20:15:06 seems kinda likely though Apr 15 20:17:12 ah, sorry... Apr 15 20:17:13 Right. Apr 15 20:17:16 that guy still around? Apr 15 20:17:24 Well, there have also been mentions of gas mains, so... Apr 15 20:17:30 Lots of confusion right now. Apr 15 20:18:35 Especially since even the folks on the police channels are not certain as to what is happening. Apr 15 20:19:52 agmlego: how likely is a gas main to blow up during an event though? Apr 15 20:20:47 now often do gas mains blow up? Apr 15 20:20:53 ::shurgs:: Apr 15 20:20:56 how often is there an event? Apr 15 20:21:04 multiply Apr 15 20:21:12 Just saying, rumours are flying and there is little in the way of actual evidence from anyone on scene. Apr 15 20:21:20 yes, it's slightly more complicated than that Apr 15 20:22:10 koen: gnome-applets is still failing to build :( Apr 15 20:22:36 jkridner|work: good, now you have incentive to ditch gnome Apr 15 20:22:51 what do you like? Apr 15 20:23:15 beer, women... Apr 15 20:23:41 mru: multiple that by it being near the finish line Apr 15 20:23:48 jkridner|work: i3wm. Apr 15 20:23:57 Or LXDE. Apr 15 20:26:17 I think just for a laugh, i'll send a Purchase oRder to someone Apr 15 20:26:20 :-) Apr 15 20:27:02 mrnasty Apr 15 20:27:58 mranostay: if the finish line is near the gas mains that doesn't factor in Apr 15 20:28:14 since we already know it to be the case Apr 15 20:28:40 oh right Apr 15 20:28:56 but the chances of that gas main blowing up Apr 15 20:29:36 the chance of something blowing up during some event, somewhere is probably not that low Apr 15 20:30:41 or maybe we should be asking, given a gas explosion, what is the chance some kind of event happening in the vicinity? Apr 15 20:30:54 that's a gas explosion _anywhere_ in, say, the US Apr 15 20:31:31 you can play all kinds of tricks with probability theory Apr 15 20:32:18 the chance of two explosions in close succession but different place is though Apr 15 20:33:00 (we'll see) Apr 15 20:33:04 I've heard shit blows up all the time in the middle east Apr 15 20:33:18 that's a loud bang! Apr 15 20:33:33 but smelly Apr 15 20:35:09 anyway, great timing, seems like I'll enjoy my 1st US visit :p Apr 15 20:35:12 well there are reports of finding two more explosive devices Apr 15 20:35:28 unexploded Apr 15 20:35:40 since I'm not anywhere near boston, I'll just wait and see what emerges Apr 15 20:36:29 * ogra_ is in boston by end of the month ... hopefully that has settled by then Apr 15 20:36:51 could be intresting to enter the US with even higher security stuff Apr 15 20:36:52 it's not baghdad Apr 15 20:37:19 heh, i'm not scared ... but i hate waiting at immigration Apr 15 20:37:23 ogra_: not likely to be much more Apr 15 20:37:43 they could start taking my toeprints Apr 15 20:37:53 brain scans! Apr 15 20:37:56 stop doing crimes barefoot Apr 15 20:38:27 hmm, come to think of it, I don't think I've ever done anything illegal while barefoot Apr 15 20:38:45 so you do illegal things, mru? :D Apr 15 20:39:09 hm, barefoot running is illegal? Apr 15 20:39:21 ogra_: bah fingerprints aren't that bad Apr 15 20:39:27 of course i don't have to do that :P Apr 15 20:39:33 exactly Apr 15 20:39:37 easy for you to say Apr 15 20:39:39 well Apr 15 20:39:44 it changes :) Apr 15 20:39:46 * mranostay notes his fingerprints on the civilian file anyway Apr 15 20:39:54 ynezz: depends on where you do it Apr 15 20:39:55 he will have to do it entering the EU Apr 15 20:40:10 ogra_: since when? Apr 15 20:40:11 they are discussing it for non europeans Apr 15 20:40:21 yes! Apr 15 20:40:24 fat lot of good it'll do Apr 15 20:40:25 and its pretty likely to get through Apr 15 20:40:32 yay for more theatre Apr 15 20:40:39 bah whatever i'm aleady on file as it is :P Apr 15 20:40:42 you are assuming there will be a EU left for it to matter Apr 15 20:40:59 you could just become russian and buy an eu passport in cyprus though Apr 15 20:41:10 they trade them now Apr 15 20:41:22 (to russians) Apr 15 20:42:34 pretty expensive passports :D Apr 15 20:43:11 why would i want to be russian? :P Apr 15 20:43:11 only 3mio ... Apr 15 20:43:31 ohh.. another bomb Apr 15 20:43:38 JFK library in Boston Apr 15 20:43:40 just gone off. Apr 15 20:44:32 mrpackethead: what are you following? Apr 15 20:44:38 is it Kim or kebab friends? Apr 15 20:44:39 mranostay, because if you are russian you can buy a european passport to not have to do the fingerprinting dance ... indeed Apr 15 20:44:43 listening on radio Apr 15 20:45:04 ogra_: illegally? Apr 15 20:45:08 legally Apr 15 20:45:09 ogra_: isn't it easier just to join the EU ;) Apr 15 20:45:21 ds2, shhh Apr 15 20:45:22 the library one may have beeen controleld det of suspicios package Apr 15 20:46:24 Crofton|work: english please? Apr 15 20:46:41 controleld detonation Apr 15 20:47:02 I saw someting saying something about a package at the jfk library earlier Apr 15 20:47:15 don't you know anything about blowing stuff up? Apr 15 20:48:22 he you bought a zyprian citizenmembership when you had a bankaccount with 100k there Apr 15 20:49:06 woglinde, well, they say 3M Apr 15 20:49:19 ogra haha Apr 15 20:49:49 but seems they are actually serious ... and country law > EU law in that case ... Apr 15 20:51:13 seems like a horrible loophole Apr 15 20:51:57 well, they need ~10B to fix their finaces ... Apr 15 20:52:08 *finances Apr 15 20:52:20 pretty creative move :) Apr 15 20:52:27 put more passwords on ebay Apr 15 20:52:39 err, passports Apr 15 20:52:46 haha Apr 15 20:53:13 swordfish Apr 15 20:53:27 does that appear as ********* to you all? Apr 15 20:53:34 yes Apr 15 20:53:38 oh good Apr 15 20:54:08 time to buy gold and fill the bunker with supplies Apr 15 20:54:39 you know gold is useless in all out panic right? :) Apr 15 20:54:57 but it's cheap today! Apr 15 20:54:59 butter and bullets :) Apr 15 20:55:06 no beacon? Apr 15 20:55:12 fine, bitcoins Apr 15 20:55:28 Russ, I'm betting on the solar flare Apr 15 20:57:07 ka6sox: the one that rips away the atmosphere? Apr 15 20:57:32 knowledge is best Apr 15 20:57:50 if you know how to survive Apr 15 20:58:10 no the one that renders all electronics useless... Apr 15 20:58:11 and fighting Apr 15 20:59:30 ka6sox: i'd give most western civilization two weeks Apr 15 21:01:24 * georgem thinks everything will be fine so long as boomsticks still work Apr 15 21:03:06 georgem: ammo will last about two weeks :) Apr 15 21:38:11 hi, i am currently stuck with pinmuxing on a 3.8.4 kernel, does anybody know whats wrong with this approach http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ports.arm.kernel/231204 Apr 15 22:49:00 Russ: !!! Apr 15 22:51:31 Russ: hide! Apr 15 23:04:05 you can hide from the trolls Apr 15 23:04:11 but not for long Apr 15 23:09:27 gn Apr 15 23:09:33 to late Apr 16 00:12:04 jkridner|work: do the harlem shake! Apr 16 00:12:14 :) OK Apr 16 00:13:05 jkridner|work: at collab? Apr 16 00:13:30 again? not currently planning on making it to collab. Apr 16 00:13:33 maker faire? Apr 16 00:14:39 in SF? Apr 16 00:53:32 yes Apr 16 01:03:30 jkridner|work is blackfriday still next week? Apr 16 01:03:48 yup. Apr 16 01:03:53 cool. Apr 16 01:03:59 so, can i send you an order Apr 16 01:04:37 ? Apr 16 01:06:58 blah... I need to figure out my password Apr 16 01:33:46 mrpackethead: me? you need to order through a distributor or CircuitCo. Did I promise to do something pass-through? Apr 16 01:34:01 no.. Apr 16 01:34:09 i thought you where Circitco. Apr 16 01:34:10 :-) Apr 16 01:34:19 I'm TI. Apr 16 01:34:24 hard to keep up Apr 16 01:34:26 :-) Apr 16 01:34:27 ha ha Apr 16 01:35:11 fromt he detal i have, i think we will be ok with these black boxes Apr 16 01:39:58 I am circuitco. send me your order and check made out to cash Apr 16 01:41:18 I'm cash, just send the check to me Apr 16 01:41:55 rodger. rodger Apr 16 01:42:43 I'm the "Catholic Asscoiation of Swiss Homemakers" Apr 16 01:43:00 you can make it out to C.A.S.H for short Apr 16 01:43:15 cheques! We dont' use them any longer Apr 16 01:43:27 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfDUkR3DOFw&t=40s Apr 16 01:43:28 we dont' have a personal cheque book now Apr 16 01:43:44 the business has one. Apr 16 01:44:04 i dont' remember signeing a cheque Apr 16 02:03:47 I will take a wire...no worries Apr 16 02:15:14 just fedex me a few kugarands Apr 16 02:15:16 :D Apr 16 02:57:54 * mranostay harlem shakes in Apr 16 02:57:56 hi emeb_mac Apr 16 02:58:18 hola mranostay Apr 16 02:59:00 emeb_mac: FPGA! Apr 16 02:59:13 mranostay: RADMAN! Apr 16 02:59:39 get a room. ;-) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Apr 16 02:59:58 2013