**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Apr 16 02:59:58 2013 Apr 16 03:00:39 just C programmer Apr 16 03:00:41 horrah. Apr 16 03:01:08 why does a MS Office update need me to close Chrome? Apr 16 03:01:49 the better to uninstall you with, my dear. Apr 16 03:02:28 someone has been drinking Apr 16 03:03:23 drunk on presentations. I gave 5 of them today with all the meetings, etc., my work day is just beginning. :( Apr 16 03:03:30 * mranostay looks at Portland apartment prices Apr 16 03:03:36 welcomes sanity Apr 16 03:28:25 emeb_mac: F Apr 16 03:28:26 emeb_mac: P Apr 16 03:28:29 emeb_mac: G Apr 16 03:28:30 emeb_mac: A! Apr 16 03:29:05 * mranostay wonders if can get a collab invite now Apr 16 03:29:22 or just show up and minge Apr 16 03:30:03 mranostay: cheerleading tryouts were last week Apr 16 03:32:53 *mingle Apr 16 03:33:05 *\o/* Apr 16 03:33:07 too late? Apr 16 04:05:00 yawn Apr 16 04:24:05 ka6sox: yarn! Apr 16 05:07:55 :) Apr 16 05:08:24 mranostay, which way don't I want to drive GPIO3_17? Apr 16 05:11:13 what's on GPIO3_17? Apr 16 05:13:45 Miss Daisy Apr 16 05:13:48 that's what :/ Apr 16 05:14:21 get her bumped Apr 16 05:24:09 ka6sox: look at the schematic Apr 16 05:24:23 GPIO3_7 goes out the same pin as GPIO0_7 on the header Apr 16 05:24:30 *3_17 Apr 16 05:24:44 so you have to pick which you want to use :) Apr 16 05:27:38 keep in mind that 0_7 is "special" Apr 16 05:27:51 iirc the same pin is some edma event Apr 16 05:30:12 okay, let me see what we have left after removing all the conflicts.. Apr 16 05:43:01 mranostay, is that fixed on the next? Apr 16 05:44:36 what is UTMI? Apr 16 05:44:46 in USB Apr 16 05:44:50 utmi mode? Apr 16 06:21:57 anybody know a source of these binder sheets that I can shove strips of SMD reels inside? Apr 16 06:22:06 youknowhatimean Apr 16 06:32:24 Is the next beaglebone delayed, or are we just not being told anything about its specs? Apr 16 06:32:36 "they" dont want us to know Apr 16 06:32:46 I'm a little confused since it's halfway through April Apr 16 06:33:01 and there's not even a listing of what the price is Apr 16 06:33:24 which ideally you would know two weeks before selling Apr 16 06:33:35 the price is a surprice :) Apr 16 06:34:11 or the GPU Apr 16 06:34:26 GPU is the same Apr 16 06:34:37 that's known? Apr 16 06:35:29 there are only a few things left unknown by now Apr 16 07:16:49 gm Apr 16 07:20:14 [kernel] koenkooi pushed 2 new commits to 3.8: http://git.io/FCqHXQ Apr 16 07:20:15 kernel/3.8 52425ce Koen Kooi: 3.8: copy of PM firmware if it exists... Apr 16 07:20:15 kernel/3.8 d43ae3e Koen Kooi: 3.8: drop duplicate patch... Apr 16 07:34:37 hello Apr 16 07:43:41 hi panto Apr 16 07:44:03 hi woglinde Apr 16 07:54:28 hi there! good morning Apr 16 07:54:47 i saw that the BeagleBone was selected for the GSOC Apr 16 07:54:56 congratulations about that to the whole community Apr 16 07:55:20 i'm myself a student and i've been thinking about something that I could do to contribute Apr 16 07:55:32 it's not specifically software so i'd like to hear your thoughts Apr 16 07:56:14 have a look at the wiki with ideas Apr 16 07:56:27 there are some mixed hw/sw things in there Apr 16 07:57:30 selected for GSOC and no student applies gains nothing ;) Apr 16 07:57:58 BeagleBone is just great, but wouldn't it be greater to have the schematics and the PCB available to work with them and hack the board? I found a lot of requests in the community for the Altium Designer files Apr 16 07:58:18 so i was wondering if i could suggest to do that myself Apr 16 07:58:44 ? Apr 16 07:58:55 schematics are available Apr 16 07:59:02 sure Apr 16 07:59:05 av500 yeah I wondered too Apr 16 07:59:07 but for OrCAD Apr 16 07:59:18 have you tried to import them to Altiuim Apr 16 07:59:21 Altium? Apr 16 07:59:24 it's really messy Apr 16 07:59:25 nope Apr 16 07:59:35 the libraries, the footprints Apr 16 07:59:41 it's not clear Apr 16 07:59:44 you want to make your own beagle? Apr 16 08:00:05 that is a tad of scope for GSoC Apr 16 08:00:28 my suggestion is just to provide those tools to the community Apr 16 08:00:35 i mean, i'm just wondering Apr 16 08:00:41 i also saw a couple of nice ideas Apr 16 08:00:48 well, most people are happy to hack on the SW side Apr 16 08:00:52 and make stuff like capes Apr 16 08:01:07 just wondering if this was a possibility Apr 16 08:01:11 I dont see a huge community on making beagle clones Apr 16 08:01:27 the files are "open" in the format the board was designed in Apr 16 08:01:32 koen, hi. just checking if you have any ideas.. I bought a DVI-to-HDMI cable (btw, is this different than a HDMI-to-DVI cable ?), which I've used to connect my Beaglebone+DVI-D cape to my monitor at work, I don't pass any special kernel arguments, but I still don't a screen. Using latest OE-layers + meta-ti/meta-beagleboard. Any ideas how to troubleshoot it ? Apr 16 08:01:38 I thinks thats pretty good already Apr 16 08:01:47 all right, i see Apr 16 08:02:01 feel free to convert them to Orcad Apr 16 08:02:05 but I dont see the point Apr 16 08:02:27 kroon: DVI to HDMI is the same as HDMI to DVI Apr 16 08:02:29 development time and expansion of the hardware platform i think Apr 16 08:02:39 one can make capes Apr 16 08:02:44 most people go that way Apr 16 08:02:46 av500, ok Apr 16 08:02:53 very few make their own beagle derivates Apr 16 08:03:02 might be true Apr 16 08:03:12 and those that do do not come from the tinkerer corners Apr 16 08:03:36 its not like you can hand solder the parts Apr 16 08:05:44 thanks for your comments av500 :), I've just been involved in a couple of hardware projects and we started off from the BeagleBone but we found a bit troblesome and time consuming Apr 16 08:06:06 so i just thought some people might be interested on that, but it seems we're the least :) Apr 16 08:06:35 and you planned to have the hardware made? Apr 16 08:07:07 kroon: try setting dss debug in the kernel cmdline to see what's happening Apr 16 08:07:30 i think so, yeap. Is that a problem? Apr 16 08:09:32 Regarding the ideas proposed at http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/GSoC/Ideas#Students_looking_for_ideas Apr 16 08:09:50 i saw that you slightly mention ROS Apr 16 08:10:23 i'm interested in ROS and i'd love to contribute this way Apr 16 08:10:28 I understand this is possible, right? Apr 16 08:10:29 hi! Apr 16 08:10:40 hi rooti Apr 16 08:10:43 ups rotti Apr 16 08:10:50 fedex rotti Apr 16 08:11:08 Good morning Apr 16 08:12:11 koen, ok, I added "dss debug" to kernel arguments. Could you have a quick look at the dmesg output if I uploaded it somewhere ? Apr 16 08:18:23 kroon where is your j? Apr 16 08:20:29 woglinde, forgot to update my nick at work :-) Apr 16 08:21:24 JIHAD! Apr 16 08:21:48 and before anyone asks: i have nothing to do with it.... and even if i had, i wouldnt tell you ;-) Apr 16 08:22:06 koen, http://pastebin.com/nsQVGA52 Apr 16 08:22:06 jkroon_: it's something like dss.debug=1, I forget the exact format Apr 16 08:22:20 koen, ah.. ok Apr 16 08:22:24 One more question regarding the GSOC guys, i know how to do the qualification test but how about the "APPLICATION TEMPLATE"? Should i also upload it to the fork that i will create? Apr 16 08:28:11 ok, I dont have omapdss.ko loaded.. Apr 16 08:28:21 vmayoral: ? Apr 16 08:28:22 I have to module, but I cant modprobe it Apr 16 08:28:26 s/to/the Apr 16 08:28:34 why not? Apr 16 08:28:47 jkroon_: what are you running? stock angstrom? Apr 16 08:28:59 av500, no, custom distro... Apr 16 08:29:10 jkroon_: then, do it like angstrom does :) Apr 16 08:29:40 vmayoral: sorry, what do you mean? Apr 16 08:33:08 "modprobe omapdss" yields "No such device". I can "modprobe reiserfs" for isntance Apr 16 08:33:21 well Apr 16 08:33:26 kernel config Apr 16 08:35:14 av500: here http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/google/gsoc2013/beagle it displays the "APPLICATION TEMPLATE" which should be completed. My question is: where should i send this application? Apr 16 08:35:52 av500: should i push it to the fork that i'll create for the qualification test (at the bottom of the page)? Apr 16 08:36:12 vmayoral subscribe to the beagle soc mailinglist Apr 16 08:36:32 if you are serious want to do somethinf Apr 16 08:42:40 woglinde: thanks for that, i'll do as you say Apr 16 08:47:38 koen, the reason for why I cant modprobe omapdss, could it be that the device tree file is not up2date ? I am using the 3.8.6 kernel from meta-beagleboard Apr 16 08:48:25 isn't it builtin? Apr 16 08:50:02 koen, no its a module according to my /proc/config.gz Apr 16 08:50:32 koen, at least I have "CONFIG_OMAP2_DSS=m" in there Apr 16 08:52:45 and I have the omapdss.ko file below /lib/modules/3.8.6/ Apr 16 09:22:39 koen, im just wondering if an incorrect dtb-file could be the cause of why I cant modprobe omapdss, then I can start looking from there.. Apr 16 09:23:29 modprobe should work (i.e. the module should load) Apr 16 09:23:47 whether the driver is probed relies on a DT device entry being present Apr 16 09:25:10 panto, modprobe says "ERROR: could not insert 'omapdss': No such device" Apr 16 09:25:55 dmesg? Apr 16 09:26:28 panto, dmesg doesnt append anything after trying to modprobe it Apr 16 09:26:53 I do have dss.debug=1 passed to the kernel Apr 16 09:26:58 maybe that one is incorrect Apr 16 09:27:29 no Apr 16 09:27:51 try insmod'ing the .ko Apr 16 09:28:50 same error message basically, "Error: could not insert module /lib/modules/3.8.6/kernel/drivers/video/omap2/dss/omapdss.ko: No such device" Apr 16 09:29:06 I gave the full path to insmod Apr 16 09:30:18 it might be possible that the load fails, but I would expect a damn log message if it does Apr 16 09:30:37 anything physical I have to do besides attaching the DVI-D cape to the beaglebone ? Apr 16 09:30:58 I see the leds on the DVI-D cape flashing Apr 16 09:31:23 isnmod != modprobe Apr 16 09:31:38 both haz mod Apr 16 09:31:48 but no cyanogen Apr 16 09:38:01 maybe I have just fucked up the DVI-D cape :-/ Apr 16 09:41:24 the LCD7 cape works fine Apr 16 09:42:24 having no log message about the failure is bad form Apr 16 09:43:07 hmm do I also need "debug" besides "dss.debug=1" ? Apr 16 09:45:07 didnt help Apr 16 09:45:20 "no APM support in kernel" Apr 16 09:49:22 I dont have "CONFIG_PANEL_TFP410" set in my kernel, yet the DVI-D cape has a chip that says "TFP410PAP" on it... Apr 16 09:51:27 any comments on that koen ? :-) Apr 16 09:52:07 jkroon_: why not use a known good kernel Apr 16 09:52:09 ? Apr 16 09:52:14 e.g. the angstrom one Apr 16 09:52:35 av500, I thought meta-beagleboard was da shit for Beaglebone ? Apr 16 09:53:02 ah Apr 16 09:55:36 I mean, as far as I understand I need the meta-ti layer for getting the "beaglebone" machine, then meta-beagleboard provides more up2date kernels, thats how ive understood it Apr 16 09:55:51 yes Apr 16 09:56:11 in that case, blame koen Apr 16 09:56:18 and all the meta-people Apr 16 09:56:48 meta-beagleboard builds a 3.2 kernel over here Apr 16 09:56:52 no i like koen but im a newbie and hes the expert so i must poke him, very gently Apr 16 09:56:55 since 3.8 is *$(@$*(@ broken Apr 16 09:57:28 koen, really ? I havent specified any preferred kernel and OE chooses 3.8.6 from meta-beagleboard... Apr 16 09:57:35 seems to work in ubuntu ... whats wrong with it ? Apr 16 09:57:45 (at least for XM) Apr 16 09:59:08 koen, if 3.8 is broken... maybe i should skip meta-beagleboard for now ? Apr 16 10:00:43 or is 3.7 better ? Apr 16 10:02:19 ogra_: including all the expansion boards? Apr 16 10:02:53 no, i dont think so, just the XM (its the multiplatform kernel with dtb) Apr 16 10:02:53 jkroon_: keep your meta-beagle up to date Apr 16 10:03:10 there's no xM dtb in 3.8 Apr 16 10:03:19 at least our kernel team only has XMs to test it Apr 16 10:03:20 that was introduced in 3.9 Apr 16 10:03:27 likely backported then Apr 16 10:03:45 they tend to do such stuff :) Apr 16 10:03:48 so you agree that 3.8 is broken unless you backport a ton of shit Apr 16 10:04:04 everything later than 2.6.32 is broken Apr 16 10:04:20 i dont actually know :) i know ubuntu has a multiplatfoem 3.8 kernel that works on 4 arm arches Apr 16 10:04:31 one of them being XM Apr 16 10:04:54 * ogra_ doesnt care much about kernel dev nowadays ... Apr 16 10:05:06 as long as "they" give me something that works Apr 16 10:05:15 koen, the SW im running on the beaglebone now, i used latest from git as of yesterday, kernel 3.8.6. You mean things have improved in 3.8.7 ? Apr 16 10:05:52 yes, beagleboard was removed from 3.8.7 recipe Apr 16 10:07:24 lol Apr 16 10:07:25 koen, im on a beaglebone now Apr 16 10:07:55 there's no omapdss in beaglebone Apr 16 10:08:09 one can always port it Apr 16 10:08:10 only ti-lcdc Apr 16 10:08:18 dmesg | grep -i cape Apr 16 10:08:27 that will show which capes were detected Apr 16 10:08:55 koen, slot #0: 'BeagleBone DVI-D CAPE,00A0,Beagleboardtoys,BB-BONE-DVID-01' Apr 16 10:09:22 and the DVI-D cape has a TFP410PAP chip on it, but TFP410 is not set in the kernel configuration Apr 16 10:09:43 right Apr 16 10:09:57 since that's a TFP driver or DSS2, not lcdc Apr 16 10:10:46 ok.. Apr 16 10:12:29 So I do have "CONFIG_DRM_TILCDC" built-in Apr 16 10:13:32 tilcdc 4830e000.fb: No power control GPIO Apr 16 10:13:50 tilcdc 4830e000.fb: No connectors reported connected with modes Apr 16 10:14:14 [drm] Initialized tilcdc 1.0.0 20121205 on minor 0 Apr 16 10:14:38 Thats all the interesting things in dmesg I could find related to the tilcdc Apr 16 10:23:17 so maybe I need to enable power management in the kernel or something Apr 16 10:23:39 or in general in my OE-setup.. Apr 16 10:23:43 maybee maybee not Apr 16 10:23:45 find out Apr 16 10:24:45 im just thinking out loud in the hopes that someone will chime in, my apoligies if im pestering the channel with newbie questions Apr 16 10:25:54 what does 'fbset' say? Apr 16 11:35:40 firealarm @ work Apr 16 11:35:42 koen, http://pastebin.com/YDYfmpjs Apr 16 11:35:46 koen, fbset output Apr 16 11:42:35 looks like it didn't detect a monitor Apr 16 11:44:46 i've tried with my monitor at work, using a HDMI-to-DVI cable, and also at home with my Sony TV, using a HDMI-to-HDMI-cable Apr 16 11:45:42 koen, is it the lacking timing values that makese you think it didnt detect a monitor ? Apr 16 11:46:29 I guess shouldnt be hotplugging in and out the cable Apr 16 11:46:58 it needs to be present at boot with the current driver Apr 16 11:47:12 hopefully darren will have time to add hotplug support Apr 16 11:48:52 Hello, I try to get some data form a GPS ( https://www.sparkfun.com/products/8975 ) via UART. I'm a bit confused about the pin mux. On my BB xM ther is on pin 6 UART2_TX | GPIO146 and on pin 8 UART2_RX | GPIO143. But if I look at /sys/kernel/debug/omap_mux cat uart2_rx there is gpio_147 ? At the datasheet it should be gpio 143. Apr 16 12:01:34 koen, so.. my best option for now is to try with another monitor ? Apr 16 12:02:34 DIP-switches are only used to uniquely identify the capes I guess, so they shouldnt matter since I'm only using the DVI-D cape Apr 16 12:11:07 right Apr 16 12:12:37 left Apr 16 12:13:17 jihad! Apr 16 12:14:12 hey! Apr 16 12:14:20 no JIHAD! without me! Apr 16 12:14:39 KotH: you cannot be everywhere Apr 16 12:14:49 av500: das b�se ist immer und �berall! Apr 16 12:14:56 Apr 16 12:16:18 EAV ftw Apr 16 12:20:35 cat "/sys/devices/ocp.2/4830e000.fb/drm/card0/card0-DVI-D-1/enabled" yields "disabled" Apr 16 12:22:42 does anybody have a "how to use UART" tutorial for me?v Apr 16 12:29:27 cat:ing the "edid" file deep under /proc actually mentions the monitor I have connected Apr 16 12:29:37 under /sys, i mean Apr 16 12:29:39 good Apr 16 12:30:04 after a reboot still 1024x768? Apr 16 12:31:23 I have the DVI cape connected to the same monitor as I have my laptop connected to. Laptop uses the VGA port, DVI cape the DVI-D port, but yes, still 1024x768 in fbset after a reboot Apr 16 12:33:11 power/runtime_status says suspended Apr 16 12:34:48 after 'echo "on" > control' is says "active", but still no display :-( Apr 16 12:35:50 proesel: google doesnt turn up anything? Apr 16 12:36:13 KotH: these days, rarely Apr 16 12:36:22 av500: did you break it? Apr 16 12:36:43 it dyed for our things Apr 16 12:36:58 dyed ? Apr 16 12:37:01 teal ? Apr 16 12:37:05 or orange ? Apr 16 12:37:21 beige Apr 16 12:37:26 /sys/devices/../graphics/fb0/modes says "U:1024x768p-0" Apr 16 12:37:58 KotH: a lot. I tried something but I guess I do something wrong. also the inverted pins make me doubtful Apr 16 12:38:27 there are schematics Apr 16 12:39:34 av500: you're still sulking for google reader? Apr 16 12:39:44 not yet Apr 16 12:41:14 did you see the link i gave you yesterday, with the g-reader alternatives? Apr 16 12:41:44 proesel: if in doubt, connect a logic analyzer to the board Apr 16 12:41:48 KotH: pls regive Apr 16 12:41:52 proesel: and there is the schematic too Apr 16 12:42:15 19:37 < KotH> av500: http://www.h-online.com/open/features/Replacing-Google-Reader-1829086.html Apr 16 12:43:54 KotH: yeah, mostly known Apr 16 12:44:08 only few qualily since most have no android app Apr 16 12:44:22 :-/ Apr 16 12:44:42 also most dont sync across devices Apr 16 12:45:18 how about taking one of the oss ones and extend it until it fits your needs Apr 16 12:45:20 ? Apr 16 12:45:25 too much work? Apr 16 12:45:28 :eff: Apr 16 12:45:36 you sound like elenril Apr 16 12:45:38 ;) Apr 16 12:45:50 I learn from the best Apr 16 12:46:13 hmm.. i'd rather say you are one of his idols :) Apr 16 12:46:23 * ogra_ just uses gReader ... works fine and they are moving their backend to something sane Apr 16 12:46:40 theoldreader seems to work ok Apr 16 12:47:39 the interface is a bit cluttered compared to google but that can probably be fixed with some css overrides Apr 16 12:47:50 android app it has? Apr 16 12:48:03 also flipboard seems to be the new shiny ... Apr 16 12:48:08 meh Apr 16 12:48:11 I dont need shiny Apr 16 12:48:12 should I be passing initialization of the video framebuffer to the kernel or something ? Apr 16 12:50:18 av500: web page works reasonably in mobile browsers Apr 16 12:51:19 I read something about an app being in the works Apr 16 12:51:27 but we all know how reliable such statements are Apr 16 12:55:26 mru: web page does not help for offline Apr 16 12:55:59 cache it Apr 16 12:56:07 Why not pay? https://feedbin.me/ Apr 16 12:56:16 Press? Apr 16 12:56:27 I know, I know... Apr 16 12:56:38 bradfa: pay is not the issue Apr 16 12:56:53 av500, feedbin was not listed in H article Apr 16 12:56:59 most of the ones listed in H article were "free" Apr 16 12:57:16 $2 / mo is a bit steep, $1 / mo is more my style, but we'll see Apr 16 12:58:24 woglinde: how do I cache "the internet"? Apr 16 12:58:54 you'll need a landfill and a whole bunch of dump trucks Apr 16 13:03:39 testing with my colleagues monitor, the DVI-complained even complained that it couldnt load some kind of firmware. i dont see that message when using my own monitor Apr 16 13:04:13 * jkroon_ gives up and lies in fetal-position in the shower Apr 16 13:07:14 * KotH turns on the cold water Apr 16 13:07:24 .o0(modulo grammar) Apr 16 13:07:43 KotH: you mean spelling, it's gold water Apr 16 13:07:51 hehe Apr 16 13:08:05 i wouldnt waste our precious gold on someone like jkroon_ Apr 16 13:08:24 koen, panto: would joining the call help you guys chat about ways to fix the tester? Apr 16 13:08:41 the tester should be fixed Apr 16 13:09:17 and a little bit of restraint when proclaiming it doesn't work would be prudent Apr 16 13:09:42 * panto points that he hasn't seen any logs claiming tester failures today Apr 16 13:09:47 panto: "it does not work" is the fastest thing to say Apr 16 13:11:01 jkridner|work, ok, pm me the call#? Apr 16 13:11:40 bradfa, where is the H+ article? Apr 16 13:11:57 lots of ways to define both "it works" and "it doesn't work" Apr 16 13:12:34 last I heard was that 'it kept crashing' Apr 16 13:12:50 but without ever seeing a log of said crashes Apr 16 13:13:10 feedly is funny "Google...shutting down Reader....Nomandy is feedly clone of the Google Reader API running on Google App Engine" Apr 16 13:13:23 teh irony Apr 16 13:13:23 what if google shuts down App Engine next spring? :p Apr 16 13:13:52 Appmandy is Google App Engine clone... Apr 16 13:14:20 ynezz: maybe Google is subtly trying to educate people that they "run the internet" Apr 16 13:14:27 maybe they are sick of it.... Apr 16 13:15:24 imagine M$ would say they are shutting down office Apr 16 13:15:24 internet only? Apr 16 13:15:32 imagine them closing Android... Apr 16 13:15:37 users would rejoice and say "fine, we can stop relearning the UI" Apr 16 13:15:40 Hello everybody. I would like to get some feedback on a project idea for gsoc. In particular I like to have more information about the integration with Jack audio server, and if could be interesting to study in deep this topi to improve the performance. Thanks you all Apr 16 13:16:08 KotH, sorry to hear that Apr 16 13:16:42 jkroon_: and if you ran stock Angstrom and compared? Apr 16 13:16:47 av500: who cares about Office, Windows is already dead platform :) (as read on Reader) Apr 16 13:17:41 av500, yeah, i will try that when I get home. dont have the tools here, just wanted to try the beaglebone with my monitor at work Apr 16 13:18:00 its just a 2nd sd card Apr 16 13:18:30 av500: did you ever have the situation that reading P1IN on a msp430 returned 0xff, even though you measure 0 on some of the pins? Apr 16 13:18:30 av500, yeah but my work laptop doesnt have a proper sd-card reader :-( Apr 16 13:18:42 mbussolotto_, that sounds interesting. Apr 16 13:18:53 * av500 knows jack about jack Apr 16 13:19:02 KotH: hmm, no Apr 16 13:19:08 jkridner|work: you're awefully quiet on the gsoc list Apr 16 13:19:28 I'll try to be more active today. lots of distractions. Apr 16 13:19:41 you're awfully quiet on the weekly call. :) Apr 16 13:19:47 I'm on mute Apr 16 13:19:50 jkridner|work: should we have a coordination meeting/hangout/whatever? Apr 16 13:20:00 coz students are streaming in Apr 16 13:20:06 jkridner|work, do you want the GSOC discussed here or in -gsoc> Apr 16 13:20:09 makes sense. I can schedule a hangout for Thursday. Apr 16 13:20:09 interested students* Apr 16 13:20:14 KotH: DJ Electrostatic? :) Apr 16 13:20:20 or anyone else can schedule one and I can endorse it. Apr 16 13:20:45 ka6sox: I'm fine with discussing in both places.... Apr 16 13:20:50 kk Apr 16 13:20:58 if the discussion goes long, it is fine to take it over to #beagle-gsoc Apr 16 13:21:07 mbussolotto_, what is your idea? Apr 16 13:21:10 students will come *here* first. Apr 16 13:21:15 good Apr 16 13:21:28 we aren't advertising #beagle-gsoc Apr 16 13:21:39 good idea Apr 16 13:21:39 it just gives us a place to fork long discussions over to. Apr 16 13:21:47 ynezz: i hope not... Apr 16 13:22:32 mbussolotto_, I'd like to hear your ideas about Jack Apr 16 13:25:24 ka6sox: i was thinking to reduce the load of cpu for music application, trying to implement better alghoritm and/or using dsp Apr 16 13:25:45 on which platform? Apr 16 13:26:12 jack is all about low latency Apr 16 13:26:25 * ka6sox likes low latency... Apr 16 13:26:59 ka6sox: beagleboard with OMAP3530 Apr 16 13:27:22 mbussolotto_, got it... Apr 16 13:27:37 mbussolotto_, are you on the gsoc Mailing List Apr 16 13:28:05 so if you want to use the dsp for jack stuff, you need to get the dsp talking directly to the sound hw Apr 16 13:28:17 bouncing through the arm core will add too much latency Apr 16 13:29:37 okay I must go now...work calls Apr 16 13:29:43 implement old Soundblaster API on the DSP :) Apr 16 13:29:48 mbussolotto_, please email the list...thanks Apr 16 13:29:53 ka6sox: still no. I'm just enrolling Apr 16 13:30:14 ka6sox: what's "work"? Apr 16 13:31:24 mru: procrastination with pants Apr 16 13:35:37 looking for comments: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/beagleboard-gsoc/rVbu85mG-yw/U8eVXsDAY3YJ Apr 16 13:36:28 hatguy_: "dumped"? Apr 16 13:36:46 ah Apr 16 13:39:27 transferred after cross compilation? dunno the exact word Apr 16 13:41:02 yes Apr 16 13:41:05 I understand Apr 16 13:41:11 from the ardiuno IDE Apr 16 13:41:22 well, there is a serial connection, that can copy the file over and run it Apr 16 13:41:31 basically a new backend Apr 16 13:42:46 like the original arduino has it's bootloader in flash Apr 16 13:42:52 you would have the same on the beagle Apr 16 13:43:02 sdcard or emmc is the same here Apr 16 13:43:43 hatguy_: why would you implement a UI? Apr 16 13:43:50 er, IDE Apr 16 13:43:57 why not reuse the arduino one? Apr 16 13:44:32 the front end would be same...the backend could have major changes Apr 16 13:45:47 and does the black beaglebone have an option to switch between on-board flash and sd? Apr 16 13:46:15 hatguy_: yes. Apr 16 13:47:04 sure Apr 16 13:47:09 its all SW Apr 16 13:47:24 and it has SD, so you can treat it as white if you want Apr 16 13:47:29 not a concern Apr 16 13:48:08 jkridner|work: now, why am I thinking this arduino stuff should run alongside Linux Apr 16 13:48:16 maybe in node.js :) Apr 16 13:48:33