**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat May 04 02:59:58 2013
May 04 03:00:50 <Dalek_> hey Russ
May 04 03:00:57 <mdp> how was lunch?
May 04 03:01:19 <Dalek_> Russ: I am trying to make the kernel but I get the error "make: *** No rule to make target `uImage'.  Stop." I am following the instructions in README.md
May 04 03:01:29 <prpplague> mdp: hehe you have spam
May 04 03:01:33 <prpplague> mdp: check you email
May 04 03:01:56 <Russ> its a new world
May 04 03:01:57 <Russ> make a zImage
May 04 03:02:07 <prpplague> Russ: hey bud
May 04 03:02:10 <Russ> where are you getting the README.md from?
May 04 03:02:19 <prpplague> Russ: used your uart gadget today
May 04 03:02:26 <Dalek_> from the git repo
May 04 03:02:35 <prpplague> Russ: turned into one of those things that i was darn lucky to have
May 04 03:02:36 <Russ> hey prpplague
May 04 03:02:36 <Russ> blue smoke then?
May 04 03:02:42 <prpplague> Russ: thanks a ton!
May 04 03:02:46 <Russ> cool :)
May 04 03:03:01 <chupacabra> dont lay a running bbb on a pair of scizzors
May 04 03:03:06 <Dalek_> lol
May 04 03:03:10 <prpplague> mdp: too caustic?
May 04 03:03:16 <prpplague> mdp: seriously pissed
May 04 03:03:38 <mdp> prpplague: no. lol. reality checks are fine
May 04 03:04:09 <mdp> reminds me I should dig out a recent one in a similar theme
May 04 03:04:18 <mdp> for you
May 04 03:04:33 <prpplague> mdp: hehe
May 04 03:04:46 <Russ> Dalek_, I'm not sure if that repo has the uImage patches or not
May 04 03:04:46 <Russ> also, you don't need to rebuild the kernel to rebuild the device tree
May 04 03:04:46 <Russ> you just make the target am335x-bone.dtb
May 04 03:04:47 <Dalek_> Russ: zImage gives the same error
May 04 03:04:47 <Russ> prpplague, had to work a couple of kinks out of the mite, I'm just waiting on stacking connectors with longer tails
May 04 03:04:50 <prpplague> mdp: forward it to me... make me feel sane...
May 04 03:04:56 <mdp> you aren't alone in any case
May 04 03:05:03 <Russ> you must be in the wrong directory
May 04 03:05:24 <mranostay> prpplague: sane? you? sane? :)
May 04 03:05:30 <prpplague> mranostay: yea
May 04 03:05:43 <chupacabra> lol
May 04 03:05:45 * prpplague has been stomping around the house for the last 20 minutes
May 04 03:05:55 * prpplague forwards email to mranostay as a warning
May 04 03:06:27 <chupacabra> thats the prp i remember
May 04 03:06:43 <Dalek_> Russ: How can I make just the target am335x-bone.dtb? And how would install that on the bbb? (*All I want is to enable PRU)
May 04 03:07:53 <prpplague> chupacabra: seriously?
May 04 03:08:03 * prpplague prides himself at being patient
May 04 03:08:25 <chupacabra> lol no
May 04 03:08:26 <Russ> make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=<your cross compiler> am335x-bone.dtb
May 04 03:08:42 <Russ> then put the dtb on the boot partition
May 04 03:09:37 <mranostay> heh
May 04 03:09:48 * mranostay reads email and backs away from prpplague 
May 04 03:09:48 <chupacabra> oh no. I have   The dreaded 'NO SSH' problem
May 04 03:10:54 <slug> chupacabra: I reflashed from image and it started working. I didn't try to see the console through serial though, maybe I should have.
May 04 03:11:11 <prpplague> mranostay: hehe
May 04 03:11:30 <chupacabra> fsck serial.  I forgot that in 2000
May 04 03:11:38 <mdp> prpplague: enjoy
May 04 03:12:04 <prpplague> mranostay: hey i get things done, if you want to complain about the color of the pcb and that is your only complain, beware my wrath
May 04 03:12:12 <chupacabra> ya gonna flash mine. couldnt get a download last time i tried then had a beer
May 04 03:12:59 <chupacabra> i was just admiring its blackness.  You really in this project?
May 04 03:13:15 <Dalek_> Russ: What exactly  is CROSS_COMPILE?
May 04 03:13:38 <mranostay> prpplague: well clearly it should be purple
May 04 03:13:41 <chupacabra> compiling for a different arch than your machine is
May 04 03:13:51 <prpplague> mranostay: indeed
May 04 03:14:00 <prpplague> mdp: reading the start of the thread no
May 04 03:14:01 <prpplague> now
May 04 03:14:02 <Russ> Dalek_, your arm cross compiler
May 04 03:14:13 <evilwulfie> lol
May 04 03:14:15 <Russ> ooo, which pcb and which thread?
May 04 03:14:37 <chupacabra> prpplague, just figured afeter the arguing you let it be black
May 04 03:15:32 <prpplague> chupacabra: a little more detailed than that, just using that as a metaphor
May 04 03:15:41 <chupacabra> ya
May 04 03:15:44 <chupacabra> same here
May 04 03:16:59 <chupacabra> When i put gentoo on here is it gonna boot straight to gentoo or through the other os?
May 04 03:18:11 <chupacabra> having a hard time finding the faqs i need. hehe
May 04 03:24:14 <prpplague> chupacabra: if you have trouble finding docs and/or faqs for what you are working on, then you are in the area i call "funland" where you make your own rules and if you are lucky, you get things working and people built temples in your name...
May 04 03:25:22 <chupacabra> funtime now.  real world manana.  I know what you say.
May 04 03:25:54 <Dalek_> prpplague:  I have been in funland all day...
May 04 03:26:23 <chupacabra> mostly everything is fun
May 04 03:27:39 <Dalek_> ok, so in all the docs I read today I didn't see anything on installing an arm cross compiler, is there a quick apt-get? or is there on specific for bbb?
May 04 03:27:51 <quadb> hey guys i'm looking for some info on how to drive some WS2801 led strip with a beaglebone black in c++. any pointer would be great.
May 04 03:28:18 <prpplague> quadb: there are some patches for the ws2801 as a led class driver
May 04 03:28:32 <prpplague> quadb: i don't think they have been merged into mainline
May 04 03:28:49 <chupacabra> Dalek_, I think. (may be wrong) linux has it stock and you just call arm flags
May 04 03:28:54 <prpplague> quadb: there are a number of example shell scripts for the Beacon board
May 04 03:29:01 <prpplague> quadb: but only for a single ws2801
May 04 03:29:10 <chupacabra> ahh
May 04 03:29:15 <chupacabra> facts
May 04 03:29:15 <prpplague> quadb: extending the examples for multiple ws2801 is easy
May 04 03:30:12 <quadb> prpplague : thanks, found the patch but was unsure if it was available and how to use the driver as I could not find an include file
May 04 03:30:25 <Dalek_> chupacabra: ok so when Ross suggested to call " make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=<your cross compiler> am335x-bone.dtb" what value should go into the cross compiler field?
May 04 03:31:04 <chupacabra> that would be a prpplague question.  he is the one with memory
May 04 03:31:42 <quadb> prpplague : does it mean the beacon board is mandatory to drive ws2801 atm ?
May 04 03:35:47 <prpplague> quadb: no, it was just an example board implementing a single ws2801
May 04 03:35:59 <prpplague> quadb: http://www.elinux.org/BeaconBoard
May 04 03:37:21 <Dalek_> prpplague:chupacabra suggested you may know what value to place in the CROSS_COMPILE paramter?
May 04 03:37:49 <Russ> Dalek_, only you would know the name of your install arm cross compiler
May 04 03:38:50 <Dalek_> I have never compiled a kernal before,  and chupacabra said it should be stock linux, is it something I should install?
May 04 03:39:04 <Russ> you need an arm cross compiler
May 04 03:39:49 <Dalek_> Is there a recommended one for BBB? I am running Ubuntu
May 04 03:39:52 * evilwulfie wanders off
May 04 03:43:38 * mranostay waffles in
May 04 03:46:22 <chupacabra>  cool now upgrade is downloading
May 04 03:47:50 <Dalek_> I am too tired keep messing with this  tonight, thanks for the help everyone and good luck on your projects
May 04 03:49:03 * chupacabra didnt see where he had never compiled a kernel before
May 04 03:50:10 <chupacabra> now i gotta erase the music out of my only microsd.  32 gig worth to reflash
May 04 03:50:26 <chupacabra> so much drama
May 04 04:09:25 <Scott_> HIya
May 04 04:11:16 <ka6sox> Morning Scott_
May 04 04:12:42 <Scott_> Quick question: What's the difference between this image "http://beagleboard.org/latest-images/" and this: "eMMC Flasher_2013.04.12"
May 04 04:12:52 <Scott_> hi ka6sox
May 04 04:20:40 <ka6sox> latest images has a number of them and the eMMC one is for the eMMC
May 04 04:20:58 <ka6sox> say good night Gracie
May 04 04:50:06 <Shadyman> O'Reilly's having 50% off ebooks today for the "Day Against DRM". There's the "getting started with BeagleBone" there for $4.99 http://shop.oreilly.com/category/deals/day-against-drm.do?code=DRM2013
May 04 04:50:10 <Shadyman> way down at the bottom
May 04 05:41:23 <ptan> hmmm... anyone notice pauses/freezes (less than 2 sec) when editting with vim on BBB?
May 04 05:41:46 <ptan> This is connecting using putty through TCP/IP address
May 04 05:42:35 <Billiard> poor network connection?
May 04 05:42:57 <ptan> Connected locally though a hub/switch here
May 04 05:43:14 <ptan> Haven't noticed anything else with other putty sessions to my other linux machines
May 04 05:55:53 <ptan> hmmm... did a shutdown, changed from USB powered to +5V jack powered, and freezing went away... don't know if it is usb related or just needed a reboot?
May 04 05:57:47 <_av500_> probably the latter
May 04 06:14:22 <mrpackethead> Shadyman: that book is a complete waste of money and time
May 04 06:14:30 <ssi> yeah it is
May 04 06:14:35 <Shadyman> mrpackethead: Figures.
May 04 06:14:53 <ptan> yikes, ps auwx shows a ton of stuff running along with X.  What's a good way to clean it up and run headless (ssh only)?
May 04 06:14:56 <ptan> on BBB
May 04 06:15:01 <mrpackethead> nothing in there that you can't get in 2 minutes on the web
May 04 06:15:20 <mrpackethead> i just wasted $4.99
May 04 06:16:08 <mrpackethead> cahpeters 5,6,7 are missing
May 04 06:16:12 <mrpackethead> "will be coming"
May 04 06:16:14 <mrpackethead> sigh.
May 04 06:17:38 <KotH> a wonderfull caturday morning everyone!
May 04 06:17:43 <_av500_> meow
May 04 06:17:55 <ka6sox> hiya KotH _av500_
May 04 06:18:00 * KotH hands _av500_ a bowl of milk
May 04 06:18:06 <_av500_> yum
May 04 06:18:21 * _av500_ just read a "thesis"
May 04 06:18:30 <ka6sox> from?
May 04 06:18:37 <KotH> about?
May 04 06:18:37 <_av500_> 4 students in indi
May 04 06:18:38 <_av500_> a
May 04 06:18:45 <_av500_> doing SaaS on an rpi
May 04 06:18:46 <ka6sox> GSoC?
May 04 06:18:49 <ka6sox> ah
May 04 06:18:58 <_av500_> yes, one of the projects linked to it
May 04 06:19:05 <mrpackethead> SaaS on Rpi?
May 04 06:19:09 <mrpackethead> thats interesting
May 04 06:19:11 <_av500_> that is not the point
May 04 06:19:18 <_av500_> its the thesis itself
May 04 06:19:19 <mrpackethead> a datacenter of Pi
May 04 06:19:24 <_av500_> that is awful on so many levels
May 04 06:19:25 <mrpackethead> do you call that a bakery?
May 04 06:19:36 <_av500_> for a demo using a pi is fine
May 04 06:19:49 <_av500_> but the total lack of any methodology is striking
May 04 06:20:10 <ka6sox> a rack of Pi
May 04 06:20:17 <KotH> welcome to the world of computer "science"
May 04 06:20:19 <ptan> a Pi rack ;)
May 04 06:21:08 <_av500_> KotH: well, I'm just used to a different quality of work
May 04 06:21:09 <mrpackethead> jsut watching about 3d printing human organs!!
May 04 06:21:25 <_av500_> KotH:but maybe im just old
May 04 06:21:28 <mrpackethead> i have a kennel of bealges
May 04 06:21:32 <KotH> wtf? there is a whole book deticated on pointers in c???
May 04 06:21:34 <ptan> what was the main benefit from using Pi's according to their thesis?
May 04 06:21:44 <_av500_> the thesis is not about that
May 04 06:21:54 <_av500_> the usual, small, low power
May 04 06:22:19 <_av500_> the choise of pi is not what I object to
May 04 06:22:20 <KotH> _av500_: nope, it's not that you are old, it's rather that we have access to all the shit that never made it out of town before the internet
May 04 06:22:42 <mrpackethead> but we know that the  $W/Mip is lower than many platforms
May 04 06:22:58 <mrpackethead> so the argument about small lower is rubbish
May 04 06:23:01 <_av500_> the thesis bables on about wifi related patent litigation
May 04 06:23:11 <ptan> ??
May 04 06:23:13 <_av500_> and stuff like that
May 04 06:23:16 <_av500_> to fill pages
May 04 06:23:16 <KotH> _av500_: and cs is especially prone to having lots of shit, because you can get anything working in some way or another
May 04 06:23:23 <_av500_> part of the "literatue search"
May 04 06:23:42 <mrpackethead> computer science.
May 04 06:23:43 <mrpackethead> mmm
May 04 06:23:54 <mrpackethead> computer engineering is a much more honest line of study
May 04 06:24:12 <_av500_> the actual work: install debian on pi, install apache, wrap gcc in php as a SaaS demo
May 04 06:24:23 <_av500_> and get wifi running
May 04 06:24:40 <mrpackethead> um, and the thesis was orginal?
May 04 06:24:42 <mrpackethead> lol.
May 04 06:24:48 <Searching> Hello. I run the command "startx" in beagleboard running Ubuntu but this produce a freeze in "Loading extension GLX ". some help?
May 04 06:24:50 <ptan> yeah, my daughter was complaining about that, she was partnered up with an EE graduate from "the second best university in India", only to find out that the person didn't even know how to solder, let alone use an Osciloscope.
May 04 06:24:54 <_av500_> the point is about preventing piracy via SaaS, but the demo use not security
May 04 06:25:17 <_av500_> thats in the "further steps"
May 04 06:25:35 <mrpackethead> _av500_: why are you reading the thesis past page 3?
May 04 06:25:46 <ptan> standards are sorta different in different parts of the world.
May 04 06:26:03 <KotH> ptan: you can have that in europe as well
May 04 06:26:19 <mrpackethead> globally
May 04 06:26:33 <mrpackethead> my student engineer in the US, is doign a bachelor degree
May 04 06:26:38 <mrpackethead> thats a 4 year course
May 04 06:26:39 <KotH> ptan: it's not only standards.. it's also how loud people are
May 04 06:26:52 <mrpackethead> in NZ and Australia, we would call that an Honors degree
May 04 06:26:56 <KotH> ptan: it looks like, in india you have to be loud to survive.
May 04 06:27:01 <mrpackethead> a Bacheleors is 3 years
May 04 06:27:14 <KotH> ptan: go to china or japan, where being loud is frowned upon.
May 04 06:27:14 <_av500_> mrpackethead: in order to understand the mindset
May 04 06:27:17 <ptan> KotH: yeah, she was complaining about that as well.
May 04 06:27:32 <mrpackethead> _av500_: nice.
May 04 06:27:40 <ptan> KotH: loud was more important than knowing how..
May 04 06:27:46 <mrpackethead> _av500_: you coud right a thesis on thesis mindsets then?
May 04 06:45:18 <KotH> ptan: i'm glad that .ch is not that "important" and "well known" as the us
May 04 06:45:35 <KotH> ptan: keeps all those students who just seek to have an important sounding degree away
May 04 06:49:46 <mrpackethead> anyone know where otago.ac.nz is?
May 04 06:49:48 <mrpackethead> lol.
May 04 06:49:53 <ka6sox> you mean like one from Haaaaarvard
May 04 06:50:06 <ka6sox> Dunedin?
May 04 06:50:14 <mrpackethead> yeah.
May 04 06:51:24 <ka6sox> was there 20yrs ago....
May 04 06:51:26 <mrpackethead> see, not so important.
May 04 06:53:08 <ka6sox> the local one here we call Universit of California for Spoild Brats.
May 04 07:00:18 * KotH makes a note to do a semester in otago
May 04 07:00:33 <mrpackethead> KotH: its not bad
May 04 07:00:38 <mrpackethead> :-)
May 04 07:00:45 <mrpackethead> its where i studied
May 04 07:01:01 <KotH> most universities are not bad...
May 04 07:01:12 <mrpackethead> McDonalds university
May 04 07:01:22 <KotH> but you dont do an exchange semester to study ;)
May 04 07:02:18 <KotH> mrpackethead: at least the pictures on the website are cool :)
May 04 07:02:28 <mrpackethead> ahh, we can use photoshop in NZ
May 04 07:02:32 <ka6sox> you know your town is not on the map when an "attraction" is the Egg McMuffin was invented there...
May 04 07:03:38 <mrpackethead> I'm going back out the shed, to do a bit more work on my milling machine conversion
May 04 07:03:53 <ka6sox> bye mrpackethead
May 04 07:03:59 <KotH> ka6sox: i live in switzerland, where most "attractions" are "we killed austrians here, in a battle 600 years ago"
May 04 07:04:04 <mrpackethead> its all striped down now
May 04 07:04:14 <Shadyman> KotH: Nice.
May 04 07:04:24 <mrpackethead> now comes putting bits back together.
May 04 07:04:42 <ka6sox> "where does this bit go?"
May 04 07:04:53 <mrpackethead> a lot of new bits
May 04 07:04:56 <KotH> "whats with those left over screws"?
May 04 07:05:04 <mrpackethead> three big stepper motors
May 04 07:05:12 <ka6sox> whoa
May 04 07:05:16 <mrpackethead> new main screws
May 04 07:05:29 <mrpackethead> much much less backlash
May 04 07:05:30 <ka6sox> KotH, you *do* realize that my books are 35yrs old....
May 04 07:05:31 <mrpackethead> new bearings
May 04 07:05:44 <KotH> ka6sox: no, but what's wrong with old books?
May 04 07:05:49 <ka6sox> so I've been searching for better more modern ones...
May 04 07:05:56 <ka6sox> KotH, out of print mostly!
May 04 07:06:00 <mrpackethead> the Koran is still in big demand, and its old
May 04 07:06:09 <mrpackethead> along with the Torah, and the bible.
May 04 07:06:09 <KotH> ka6sox: amazon and it's used book section is of great help :)
May 04 07:06:16 <KotH> its*
May 04 07:06:34 <mrpackethead> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamburger_University
May 04 07:06:41 <ka6sox> okay, let me go out to the garage when its light and get the books
May 04 07:06:50 <KotH> ka6sox: thanks!
May 04 07:07:30 <KotH> mrpackethead: woha! not a small thing!
May 04 07:08:46 <ds2> so you got useful books
May 04 07:08:48 <ka6sox> okay I'm done watching the grass burn...time for some sleep
May 04 07:08:59 <ka6sox> ds2, I still use them
May 04 07:09:10 <chuckm> greetings
May 04 07:09:12 <ds2> ka6sox: modern books aren't very useful
May 04 07:09:26 <ka6sox> mostly fluff or political correctness.
May 04 07:09:30 <ka6sox> morning chuckm
May 04 07:09:42 <KotH> good night ka6sox
May 04 07:09:44 <chuckm> playing with a new bblack
May 04 07:10:02 <chuckm> trying to get wifi up and bruising my head :-)
May 04 07:10:05 <ka6sox> ds2, I read thru all the GSoC proposals and commented.
May 04 07:10:30 <mrpackethead> ka6sox: any winners?
May 04 07:10:31 <ka6sox> chuckm, careful...thats not covered in any Insurance Plan...
May 04 07:10:38 <ka6sox> mrpackethead, a few...
May 04 07:10:40 <chuckm> lol, so true, so true
May 04 07:10:46 <mrpackethead> you are lucky.
May 04 07:11:02 <mrpackethead> we only have so_so applicaitons
May 04 07:12:19 <ka6sox> chuckm, wish I could help but working for 48hrs has left me drained.
May 04 07:12:29 <chuckm> wow, it will do that
May 04 07:12:45 <chuckm> reading the forum notes to see if anyone has managed it yet, I'm pretty close
May 04 07:12:55 <hatguy_> ka6sox, are the comments mentor eyes-only?
May 04 07:12:59 <ka6sox> 3 fires burning have left us in a pickle.
May 04 07:13:20 <ka6sox> hatguy_, public ones too!
May 04 07:13:23 <chuckm> wpa_supplicant sees it but keeps saying it doesn't have access (connect works though, just can't run dhcp)
May 04 07:13:32 <ka6sox> okay nite
May 04 07:13:32 <chuckm> ouch you in socal?
May 04 07:13:32 <mrpackethead> ka6sox: are you not too far away from fires?
May 04 07:13:45 <ka6sox> mrpackethead, got 3 that are causing issues
May 04 07:13:47 <mrpackethead> hatguy_: are you applying.
May 04 07:13:55 <KotH> chuckm: do a tcpdump on the interface and watch where the packets go
May 04 07:13:57 <ka6sox> mrpackethead, one burned right over the site
May 04 07:14:11 <hatguy_> mrpackethead: yes
May 04 07:14:15 * mrpackethead is a CDEM volunteer, so we watch these thigns with interest
May 04 07:14:21 <hatguy_> ka6sox: didn't get any :(
May 04 07:14:31 <ka6sox> hatguy_, thats good!
May 04 07:14:33 <mrpackethead> community driven emergency managment = cedm
May 04 07:14:40 <ka6sox> which proposal is yours?
May 04 07:14:41 <mrpackethead> we had a big fire earliery this year.
May 04 07:14:48 <hatguy_> https://google-melange.appspot.com/gsoc/proposal/review/google/gsoc2013/hatguy/1
May 04 07:14:48 <chuckm> KotH packets not flowing
May 04 07:14:57 <KotH> hmm...something outside sounded like gunfire ^^'
May 04 07:15:07 <mrpackethead> damn scary for people when they have to evac their houses
May 04 07:15:16 <KotH> ka6sox: i hope noone got injured
May 04 07:15:23 <ka6sox> not yet
May 04 07:15:25 <mrpackethead> and you cna't give them any assurances about if it will be charcoal when they come back.
May 04 07:15:34 <ka6sox> but one fire is 64km^2 as of tonight
May 04 07:15:47 <mrpackethead> hopefully it will burn out
May 04 07:15:54 <KotH> holy cow!
May 04 07:15:55 <chuckm> does gnome have a network manager? I'm running headless so if it does I wouldn't see it
May 04 07:16:01 <ka6sox> its headed towards malibu...no great loss :P
May 04 07:16:04 <chuckm> lol
May 04 07:16:14 <ka6sox> chuckm, yes it does
May 04 07:16:19 <chuckm> But Barbara's view is going to be horrible :-)
May 04 07:16:19 <ka6sox> later versions
May 04 07:16:26 <_av500_> KotH: https://plus.google.com/112266164281670850856/posts/ARoWLkerwVb
May 04 07:16:37 <chuckm> hmm, need to hunt it down and kill it I'm guessing.
May 04 07:16:49 <chuckm> its not letting wlan0 go ...
May 04 07:17:14 <ka6sox> figures
May 04 07:17:17 <chuckm> sigh no lsof
May 04 07:17:28 <ka6sox> okay I'm fried...we are stable enough till tomorrow.
May 04 07:17:28 <KotH> _av500_: o_0
May 04 07:17:28 <_av500_> tell ol pharao, let my wlan0 go
May 04 07:17:55 <ka6sox> killall -9 networkmangler
May 04 07:17:57 <chuckm> I think it would be let my packets go, but the point is good
May 04 07:18:27 <chuckm> hmm, no process killed
May 04 07:18:46 <ka6sox> chuckm, reread what I wrote...
May 04 07:19:28 <ka6sox> KotH, am I that far gone?
May 04 07:19:32 <chuckm> yes, familiar with the killall command, it says "no process killed" when it is unsuccessful
May 04 07:19:35 <_av500_> aint it connman these days?
May 04 07:19:55 <KotH> ka6sox: hmm? gone?
May 04 07:19:58 <chuckm> apparently, *that* if found
May 04 07:19:59 <ka6sox> depends on the distro
May 04 07:20:08 <ka6sox> gone as in over the edge,
May 04 07:20:12 <mrpackethead> my blacks shoudl be here on Monday
May 04 07:20:16 <mrpackethead> that will be fun
May 04 07:20:16 <chuckm> angstrom-latest from the web site this afternoon
May 04 07:20:20 <_av500_> the all blacks?
May 04 07:20:25 <mrpackethead> four of them
May 04 07:20:32 <KotH> ka6sox: nah.. the youngsters are just not used to trolling anymore
May 04 07:20:32 <mrpackethead> not richie and Dan though
May 04 07:20:38 <ka6sox> nn folks...I'm out
May 04 07:20:48 <KotH> sleep well
May 04 07:20:58 <mrpackethead> ka6sox, message understood, out
May 04 07:21:04 <ka6sox-away> I'll try!
May 04 07:21:15 <mrpackethead> how can -away post a message
May 04 07:21:24 <mrpackethead> unless, is a bot
May 04 07:21:24 <simily22> does anyone know how to set a delay in the updated version of bonescript?
May 04 07:21:43 <mrpackethead> simily22: yes.
May 04 07:22:09 <simily22> mrpackethead: whats the function?
May 04 07:22:20 <mrpackethead> I dont' know
May 04 07:22:28 <mrpackethead> you asked if anyone knows.
May 04 07:22:37 <mrpackethead> the answer is Yes, someobody does.
May 04 07:22:57 <chuckm> client side or board side simily22
May 04 07:23:01 <_av500_> you cannot be sure
May 04 07:23:05 <_av500_> maybe nobody knows
May 04 07:23:42 <_av500_> somebody should port raspbian to the bone
May 04 07:23:43 <mrpackethead> _av500_: oh, i think somebody does
May 04 07:23:52 <mrpackethead> ha ha.
May 04 07:23:52 <simily22> what... people are being serious here
May 04 07:24:16 <mrpackethead> _av500_:  we'd called that dogbian
May 04 07:24:31 <chuckm> wow
May 04 07:24:32 * dm8tbr groeans
May 04 07:24:38 <dm8tbr> groans even
May 04 07:24:53 <chuckm> well killing off connman was interesting
May 04 07:25:19 <_av500_> enjoyed the kill?
May 04 07:25:26 <chuckm> well it hung the kernel
May 04 07:25:30 <mrpackethead> hello simily22, we thought you'd died after being bitten by trolls
May 04 07:25:39 <chuckm> not nearly  enjoyable as letting me configure the wireless
May 04 07:26:47 <mrpackethead> simily22: delay(n);
May 04 07:26:58 <mrpackethead> oh, hes gone again
May 04 07:26:58 <mrpackethead> hard to help
May 04 07:27:11 <chuckm> aye
May 04 07:27:49 <shodan45> I can't ssh to my bbb, all I get is connection closed by remote host. Any idea why?
May 04 07:28:08 <chuckm> did you update to the latest firmware?
May 04 07:28:09 <_av500_> it does not like you
May 04 07:28:58 <shodan45> chuckm: no, I don't have a microsd card handy :(
May 04 07:29:02 <chuckm> Hmm, connman doesn't seem to use a file either.
May 04 07:29:11 <_av500_> a file?
May 04 07:29:13 <chuckm> Oh, well are you trying to ssh vis the rndis driver or ethernet
May 04 07:29:39 <shodan45> ahhh... usb connection, so I assume rndis
May 04 07:29:40 <chuckm> for wireless networks. I added mine to wpa_supplicant.conf but the system won't get a dhcp address
May 04 07:29:52 <chuckm> host os? MacOS, Windows, Linux?
May 04 07:29:55 <shodan45> linux
May 04 07:29:58 <_av500_> one does not simple use a file for connman
May 04 07:30:02 <_av500_> its 2013
May 04 07:30:05 <chuckm> lol
May 04 07:30:09 <_av500_> you have to send dbus using python
May 04 07:30:16 <_av500_> true story
May 04 07:30:18 <chuckm> Can you ping it shodan?
May 04 07:30:22 <chuckm> I can believe that av500
May 04 07:30:50 <shodan45> chuckm: yeah, I can get to the web interface too
May 04 07:31:33 <shodan45> hm, does it have a dhcp client set up for ethernet?
May 04 07:31:44 <chuckm> it does
May 04 07:31:54 <chuckm> if you plug it in it will grab an ip
May 04 07:31:59 <shodan45> ok... hm
May 04 07:32:30 <shodan45> lol I seem to have run out of free ports on my router
May 04 07:32:35 <chuckm> I had poor luck with RNDIS on windows so I just put an FTDI cable on to long in that way but using ethernet was ok too.
May 04 07:32:43 <chuckm> Now trying to get wireless working.
May 04 07:32:55 <shodan45> wireless? via usb?
May 04 07:33:05 <chuckm> ye
May 04 07:33:08 <chuckm> yes even
May 04 07:33:35 <_av500_> shodan45: the web interface has ssh too
May 04 07:33:39 <shodan45> ah... was hoping that I missed "built in wifi" in the feature list ;)
May 04 07:33:40 <chuckm> I suspect that if I dug out a monitor and keyboard/mouse combo I could do it under gnome
May 04 07:33:52 <shodan45> _av500_: yeah, I get the same thing from that
May 04 07:33:55 <chuckm> but trying to do it headless
May 04 07:34:28 <shodan45> hm, so it has a tty set up on the serial port?
May 04 07:34:30 <chuckm> And you can just type 'screen /dev/ACM0 115200' or some such if you have the serial driver
May 04 07:35:07 * shodan45 goes to find his ftdi board
May 04 07:35:15 <_av500_> chuckm: http://www.gigamegablog.com/2012/02/06/beaglebone-linux-101-assigning-a-static-ip-address-with-connman/
May 04 07:35:27 <_av500_> shodan45: yes
May 04 07:35:47 <_av500_> dev/ttyUSB0 on the host
May 04 07:37:42 <chuckm> nice av500
May 04 07:38:13 <shodan45> looks like the default for my ftdi friend (from adafruit) is +5V for VCC.... I'm guessing that would fry my bbb?
May 04 07:38:59 <chuckm> hmm, I don't know. I have one of their boards which taked a USB cable and I didn't bother to check.
May 04 07:39:18 <chuckm> They claim they only use tx, rx, and gnd
May 04 07:39:27 <chuckm> in the manual
May 04 07:39:44 <_av500_> shodan45: you need a 3.3V ftdi cable
May 04 07:40:31 <chuckm> hmm, ok connman doesn't list my wireless yet. Working on that part
May 04 07:41:13 <_av500_> VCC is not connected on the BBB side
May 04 07:41:18 <_av500_> so that is safe
May 04 07:41:27 <_av500_> some ftdi cables are 3.3V but have 5V VCC
May 04 07:44:18 <shodan45> _av500_: yeah, the default settings for mine do that
May 04 07:45:28 <shodan45> http://www.adafruit.com/adablog/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/ftdifriendback_LRG.jpg
May 04 07:45:37 <shodan45> ^ that's what it looks like
May 04 07:45:59 <shodan45> _av500_: oh wait... vcc isn't connected?
May 04 07:46:03 <chuckm> That is *exactly* what I have plugged into mine
May 04 07:46:15 <chuckm> its working great
May 04 07:46:16 <shodan45> chuckm: and you didn't change the settings?
May 04 07:46:32 <KotH> shodan45: it doesnt matter whether vcc is connected or not, if the signals are 5V you might fry your bbb
May 04 07:46:44 <chuckm> nope, just plugged it in
May 04 07:47:10 <chuckm> making sure I had pin 1 correctly oriented
May 04 07:47:29 <shodan45> KotH: right, I understand that, but the default is 3V
May 04 07:47:52 <KotH> ah..ok... go on plugging then
May 04 07:50:46 <chuckm> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17178578/2013-05-04%2001.21.19.jpg
May 04 07:52:27 <chuckm> coming under the header of 'don't do that' the board hangs if you kill connmand
May 04 07:53:20 <shodan45> woot got a terminal :D
May 04 07:53:27 <chuckm> grats
May 04 07:53:54 <shodan45> holy crap, that's a lot of stuff running
May 04 07:54:15 <shodan45> lol, X is running
May 04 07:54:26 <_av500_> omg, run!
May 04 07:54:34 <shodan45> duh... shoulda plugged in the hdmi
May 04 07:55:21 <shodan45> _av500_: I'm just used to video-less boards, like routers, etc.
May 04 07:55:45 <mrpackethead> yeah, video is over-rated
May 04 07:55:49 <_av500_> shodan45: you can use it videoless just fine
May 04 07:56:06 <shodan45> lost track of how many wr703n's I have ;)
May 04 07:56:08 <_av500_> bake your own angstrom and make only a console image or so
May 04 07:56:26 <mrpackethead> when CCO, whitelable the blackbone, we'll hopefully ditch all the HDMI stuff
May 04 07:57:13 <mrpackethead> just stuff that we dont' need
May 04 07:57:14 <_av500_> is there a blacklabeled white too?
May 04 07:57:16 <shodan45> do the other beagleboards have the same or similar software stack?
May 04 07:57:31 <chuckm> yes
May 04 07:57:34 <mrpackethead> _av500_: not yet.
May 04 07:57:59 <chuckm> The angstrom/latest directory had builds for all of them, are these not functional?
May 04 07:58:10 <shodan45> I'm quite impressed with the "bonescript" & ide stuff
May 04 07:58:12 <chuckm> sorry confused
May 04 08:06:22 <chuckm> ah scrounging around for a micro HDMI
May 04 08:23:46 <chuckm> well success of a sort
May 04 08:25:19 <chuckm> if I fiddle around in gnome I can tell connman to connect me and it does, so the wireless stack is working, but when I reboot headless it doesn't re-bind
May 04 08:25:54 <chuckm> but now its in the list of services and I should be able to enable it using python by sending a dbus message.
May 04 08:26:51 <chuckm> Guess I'm stuck re-doing the whole system to keep it from running X and connman and doing a pure wpa_supplicant config. Sigh.
May 04 08:27:12 <chuckm> know more now than I did when I started so that is good.
May 04 08:43:06 <_av500_> chuckm: these connmann tools offer no way to set it?
May 04 08:43:11 <_av500_> I used them for static IP
May 04 08:44:45 <chuckm> Not really, once you have it enabled you can change it to a static IP but the secret sauce was to edit /var/lib/connman/settings and set WIfiEnable to true. Per this blog entry : http://learn.adafruit.com/beaglebone/wifi
May 04 08:45:12 <chuckm> doing an opkg upgrade to pull the latest stuffz
May 04 08:45:54 <chuckm> All the X windows stuff is superfluous to my needs anyway, so redoing the init scripts isn't a huge deal.
May 04 08:48:30 <chuckm> the opkg upgrade is pulling down new drivers for the realtek chipset so that is nice too
May 04 08:52:11 <chuckm> slow though, I'm used to faster speeds on updates :-)
May 04 09:16:57 <jkroon> koen, I trying to connect an LCD panel to the beaglebone. It should reflect the situation with the LCD7 cape, but there is no i2c slave on the "cape" we're using. Am I correct in understanding that I should be use the tilcdc,panel driver, and that I need to define the LCD monitor in the device tree file ?
May 04 09:22:20 <koen> yes
May 04 09:22:38 <koen> you can use a commandline override to force the LCD7 cape to load
May 04 09:22:47 * koen afk now
May 04 09:23:32 <jkroon> koen, thanks! :-)
May 04 09:24:01 <jkroon> glad i was on the right track at least
May 04 10:03:34 <_av500_> new printer arrived and installed
May 04 10:03:50 <mru> 1d, 2d, or 3d?
May 04 10:04:31 <mru> and damn, I'm out of coffee
May 04 10:11:03 <hustcalm> jkridner: hi, I have updated my proposal and left a comment, you may want to have a look: https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/proposal/review/google/gsoc2013/hustcalm/1
May 04 10:22:49 <_av500_> mru: I guess it will go back, then fan runs all the time even in standby
May 04 10:22:51 <_av500_> WTF?
May 04 10:29:37 <mru> what printer is that?
May 04 10:33:53 <jkroon> uhm.. Is the dtb file compiled into the Beaglebone kernel when building with OpenEmbedded ?
May 04 10:37:24 <_av500_> mru: HL2250DN
May 04 10:40:34 <_av500_> hmm
May 04 10:40:36 <_av500_> now its off
May 04 10:40:39 <_av500_> just takes ages
May 04 10:40:41 <_av500_> :(
May 04 10:41:08 <_av500_> its not the standby timer that I can set
May 04 10:41:12 * KotH hugs his 2605dn
May 04 10:41:18 <KotH> nice little thingy
May 04 10:41:27 <_av500_> KotH: have it printed on a large pillow
May 04 10:41:51 <KotH> i'd rather print something else on a large pillow :)
May 04 10:42:45 <mru> koen would 3d-print a large pillow
May 04 10:43:27 <_av500_> how did the first guy that printed a 3d-printer print his 3d-printer?
May 04 10:44:03 <KotH> from the pics it looks like the 2250 is very small. could be that it needs the fan as long as the fusing drum is heated
May 04 10:44:49 <_av500_> yes
May 04 10:45:05 <_av500_> I put the timeout to 1minute
May 04 10:45:12 <_av500_> yet it runs for like 10minutes at least
May 04 10:45:17 <_av500_> and its cold
May 04 10:45:21 <_av500_> so its a fixed time
May 04 10:45:29 <_av500_> not because the drum was hot
May 04 10:46:08 <KotH> :-/
May 04 10:46:46 <_av500_> I sent a support request :)
May 04 10:46:47 <_av500_> lets see
May 04 12:02:57 <do_ff> Hi
May 04 12:03:24 <do_ff> Just learned about the BBB - can not wait to order.
May 04 12:03:59 <do_ff> Were there any particular reason to limit USB ports to just one and to omit audio out?
May 04 12:04:36 <KotH> price
May 04 12:05:22 <malcom2073> usb hubs are cheap, and the port can source more than that you likely don't even need a powered hub
May 04 12:09:40 <do_ff> It's just I have a couple of the older models (the ones with 89$ price tag) and I was happy with the price. I do miss a separate audio :/
May 04 12:09:51 <do_ff> Anyway - thanks for commenting
May 04 12:10:15 <Tartarus> do_ff: you could always make a cape :)
May 04 12:11:12 <do_ff> Tartarus - I take this as a compliment - I'm not that good. Not even close :) The beauty of BB was that it so easy to use even for the people that are not friendly with electronics :)
May 04 12:11:37 <Tartarus> do_ff: I'm a sw nerd myself, I understand you :)
May 04 12:12:51 <do_ff> Thanks.
May 04 12:13:02 <KotH> meh...
May 04 12:13:11 <Tartarus> afk
May 04 12:13:14 <KotH> _av500_: i blame you for wasting my time!
May 04 12:17:14 <malcom2073> Can you still get the old white?
May 04 12:17:48 <malcom2073> Anyone know where to actually purchase a Beadaframe? I've not been able to find any pricing/sales information anywhere on their website
May 04 12:58:25 <_av500_> KotH: what?
May 04 13:48:01 * ajtag_ has some dead bones here, the power comes up and instantly shuts down any advice?
May 04 13:50:24 <dm8tbr> verified working sd card inserted?
May 04 13:53:31 <ajtag_> havent been able to verify SD, but have tried a few SD's
May 04 13:55:11 <ajtag_> on applying 5V pwr led flashes once
May 04 13:55:32 <ajtag_> then there is 0V at all points on board
May 04 13:55:36 <m_billybob> power type ? person i know used to barrel plug adapters, and it did the same thing
May 04 13:55:49 <m_billybob> usb worked fine for him though
May 04 13:55:55 <ajtag_> both barrel and USB
May 04 13:56:06 <m_billybob> ouch
May 04 13:56:22 <ajtag_> from regulated 5v 4A, and desktop psu
May 04 13:57:59 <ajtag_> desktop psu = power supply (not a computer psu)
May 04 13:58:38 <m_billybob> im just thinking that if usb doesnt work, somethings awry
May 04 13:58:41 <dm8tbr> ajtag_: try preparing a card with a validation image
May 04 13:58:55 <m_billybob> but im kind of new myself to the bbb so maybe im missing something
May 04 13:59:21 <ajtag_> this is the old bone
May 04 13:59:51 <m_billybob> anything addition plugged in ?
May 04 13:59:56 <m_billybob> additional*
May 04 13:59:59 <ajtag_> no
May 04 14:01:27 <ajtag_> there is a note on the wiki about the processor being damaged if displaying similar symptopms, but would have thought there would be still be power on the board if that was the case
May 04 14:02:41 <m_billybob> maybe try what dm8tbr there suggests.  personally i have zero hands on with the white
May 04 14:03:16 * ajtag_ is googling for the images now.
May 04 14:06:28 <vvu|Mobile> hello everybody!
May 04 14:06:43 * ajtag_ doffs his cap
May 04 14:07:22 <m_billybob> morning.
May 04 14:08:34 <m_billybob> ug, back on the roof again soon. solar array needs installing . . .
May 04 14:39:25 <KotH> _av500_: because of you, i did look up what "fuser drum" in english was... and ended up reading about the RAF for an hour
May 04 14:45:04 <ka6sox> neeeeeed coffee
May 04 14:54:19 * KotH hands ka6sox a cup of turkish coffee
May 04 14:59:02 <ka6sox> KotH, are you trying to give me a "jump start"?
May 04 15:05:50 <KotH> ka6sox: nah.. turkish coffee is something you drink to relax
May 04 15:06:02 <KotH> ka6sox: especially in the afternoon, after a hard day of work
May 04 15:06:55 <ka6sox> when I was on the Amazon River they gave us a "dixie cup" what I swear was equal parts coffee/water/sugar.
May 04 15:07:11 <KotH> wow
May 04 15:07:32 <KotH> i would be crawling up the walls after something like that
May 04 15:07:41 <ka6sox> KotH, I was...
May 04 15:08:05 <ka6sox> ready to get off that boat! (i'd been on it for 12hrs and we were only 100km upstream.
May 04 15:08:08 <ka6sox> )
May 04 15:08:59 <KotH> doesnt sound like a trip where you would need such a strong coffee
May 04 15:09:32 <ka6sox> I don't know if it was the Chickens or the Goats that kept me awake more...
May 04 15:09:47 <KotH> lol
May 04 15:10:05 <KotH> like in the plane in indiana jones?
May 04 15:10:06 <KotH> :)
May 04 15:10:14 <ka6sox> yes, similar
May 04 15:10:19 <KotH> hmm.. is there any good way how to get wavenumbers into my head?
May 04 15:10:35 <KotH> i can deal with frequency and wavelength, but wavenumbers...
May 04 15:11:07 <ka6sox> we had hammocks and someone was "moving" so there was a stove that I would hit it periodically
May 04 15:11:26 <ka6sox> what is a "wave number"?
May 04 15:12:00 <KotH> one over the wavelength
May 04 15:12:10 <KotH> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wavenumber
May 04 15:12:46 <KotH> commonly used in spectroscopy and laser stuff
May 04 15:13:37 <ka6sox> ya the eV stuff...
May 04 15:13:51 <ka6sox> since I work in far field it doesnt' come into play.
May 04 15:15:38 <ka6sox> morning emeb_mac
May 04 15:15:50 <emeb_mac> hi!
May 04 15:15:55 <emeb_mac> get some rest?
May 04 15:15:59 <KotH> well.. i have not encountered anyone using eV in radio electronics :)
May 04 15:16:29 <ka6sox> emeb_mac, 7+hrs of uninterrupted sleep!
May 04 15:17:42 <emeb_mac> and back in the captain's chair this morning?
May 04 15:18:26 <ka6sox> arrrrrr
May 04 15:18:49 <ka6sox> I already scanned the universe an other than a few minor anomolies life is good.
May 04 15:18:58 <ka6sox> s/an/and
May 04 15:19:07 <ka6sox> latly I kant typ
May 04 15:19:30 <KotH> dont worry, nobody will notice
May 04 15:20:13 <ka6sox> somebody said that vwlls aren't ncssry
May 04 15:20:30 <KotH> they arent
May 04 15:20:46 <KotH> just look at arabic, they dont write them and get along fine enough
May 04 15:21:05 <ka6sox> ya
May 04 15:21:54 <ka6sox> emeb_mac, I'm going to fire up the 2 Pandas and let them monitor and get Synergy Desktop working on all of them.
May 04 15:22:14 <ka6sox> put the ES on the 32"!
May 04 15:22:38 <emeb_mac> keep those boards busy!
May 04 15:22:43 <ka6sox> that way I can say "On Screen"
May 04 15:23:35 <alan_o> ka6sox: connect that up with your skype or $PREFERREDVIDEOCHATSOFTWARE
May 04 15:24:08 <ka6sox> alan_o, then I'd really have the Kirk Chair...
May 04 15:24:47 <alan_o> ka6sox: I saw the kirk chair. It's at the EMP museum in Seattle. Apparently belongs to Paul Allen.
May 04 15:25:12 <alan_o> We imagined the converstation with his wife: "we have _got_ to get this thing out of our living room"
May 04 15:25:37 <KotH> salut alan_o
May 04 15:26:02 <alan_o> hola senor el rey del cerro.
May 04 15:26:53 <ka6sox> alan_o, I can imagine...
May 04 15:26:59 <alan_o> (I only know cerro because I eat at a place called El Cerro and had to look it up :) )
May 04 15:27:13 <ka6sox> is he really the king of the mountain?
May 04 15:27:28 <alan_o> that's what KotH stands for, right?
May 04 15:27:44 <alan_o> I saw cerro translated as "hill" when I looked it up.
May 04 15:27:45 * ka6sox needs more coffee...of COURSE it does.
May 04 15:28:03 <ka6sox> KotH is one of my favourite maps.
May 04 15:28:27 <alan_o> It's one of my favorite shows :)
May 04 15:29:11 <ka6sox> alan_o, TV is soooo bad they have to pay me to work on it
May 04 15:29:28 <alan_o> ahh, you're one of _those_ guys....
May 04 15:29:36 <KotH> TV? what's that?
May 04 15:29:38 <KotH> ;)
May 04 15:29:48 <ka6sox> KotH, we don't have one at home.
May 04 15:29:57 <ka6sox> we killed ours
May 04 15:30:02 <alan_o> http://www.theonion.com/articles/area-man-constantly-mentioning-he-doesnt-own-a-tel,429/
May 04 15:30:14 <ka6sox> thats why I have a 32" "monitor"
May 04 15:30:16 <emeb_mac> ka6sox: but how many monitors do you have?
May 04 15:30:30 <ka6sox> emeb_mac, sssh...my wife doesn't know
May 04 15:30:48 <KotH> ka6sox: heh.. i gave mine away a couple of years ago, after not switching it on in 3 years or so
May 04 15:31:06 * emeb_mac still has a 13" CRT (hooked to an HD converter)
May 04 15:31:20 <ka6sox> KotH, we killed cable about the time my son started school....so 7yrs ago.
May 04 15:31:57 <emeb_mac> good plan. less brainrot, less $$.
May 04 15:32:08 <ka6sox> there are a Murder of Crows outside I'm about to Murder....
May 04 15:32:27 <ka6sox> are? is?
May 04 15:32:43 <KotH> it's the right verb, that's enough
May 04 15:33:28 <ka6sox> Ser vs Conozo
May 04 15:34:19 <ka6sox> what I can't figure out is they are on a "ship" and they insist on using China Cups.....
May 04 15:34:30 <ka6sox> (back to TOS references)
May 04 15:35:05 <KotH> what's wrong with china cups on a ship?
May 04 15:35:09 <alan_o> so we don't have cable any more either, and our TV time has gradually shrunk down to very little. The cable company called me up and says that for about $6 more than I'm paying for the cable modem internet, I can have standard cable service. I guess it mostly just pisses me off that the internet costs so much.
May 04 15:35:56 <ka6sox> the cable companies are realizing that people have choices...
May 04 15:35:57 <alan_o> Thinking about getting a Roku box so I can have cable news. I got used to having that on in the background.
May 04 15:36:21 <ka6sox> I expect to see most analogue FM service discontinued in 5-7 yrs
May 04 15:36:55 <alan_o> yeah, that's the thing. So many people are rebelling against standard pay-tv. But it's their own fault, because they've just kept increasing the prices, and adding more levels of "premium"
May 04 15:37:09 <emeb_mac> ka6sox: woah, really?
May 04 15:37:22 <alan_o> ka6sox: I don't expect that.
May 04 15:37:31 <emeb_mac> meither
May 04 15:37:33 <ka6sox> AM will be dead
May 04 15:37:43 <alan_o> There's nothing to gain from reclaiming those bands
May 04 15:38:01 <alan_o> until my AM station switched to FM, I was AM almost full time.
May 04 15:38:19 <ka6sox> alan_o, you are the exception
May 04 15:38:22 <alan_o> analog TV was a tremendous amount of band space they could re-sell.
May 04 15:38:52 <KotH> btw: why are you still using so much AM in this day and age? is there any specific advantage that doesnt apply in other parts of the world?
May 04 15:38:53 <ka6sox> if nothign moves but their mouth you can cram 6 "stations" on 1 carrier with TV
May 04 15:39:14 <ka6sox> KotH, no advantage ATM
May 04 15:39:53 <ka6sox> its a nighmare to maintain the transmission equipment too.
May 04 15:40:03 <alan_o> KotH: existing receivers is about it, and better audio quality than SSB for broadcast.
May 04 15:40:26 <KotH> uh..
May 04 15:40:41 <ka6sox> SSB was never sucessful in broadcast
May 04 15:40:43 <ka6sox> ever
May 04 15:40:45 <KotH> why not VHF FM like the rest of the world?
May 04 15:41:03 <alan_o> ka6sox: right. Maybe I misunderstood the question...
May 04 15:41:11 <alan_o> KotH: we have that too
May 04 15:41:13 <KotH> i mean, i dont remember using AM for anything else than listening to SW stations from around the world when i was a child
May 04 15:41:16 <ka6sox> KotH, because we can fit all of europe in less than 1/2 the country?
May 04 15:41:24 <KotH> all other stations i know are purely FM
May 04 15:41:44 <KotH> ka6sox: do you have so many stations that transmit nation wide?
May 04 15:41:46 <alan_o> KotH: most radio in the US that people listen to is 88-108MHz FM
May 04 15:42:07 <ka6sox> KotH, only via networks
May 04 15:42:30 <ka6sox> the problem is that the content is getting bad too...
May 04 15:42:51 <KotH> alan_o: ah..ok...
May 04 15:42:58 <emeb_mac> if they get rid of AM where will you find Rush Limbaugh?
May 04 15:43:07 <KotH> alan_o: i always get the impression that most stations are AM ^^'
May 04 15:43:34 <ka6sox> emeb_mac, in many large markets he is on FM
May 04 15:43:50 <ka6sox> till he dies too
May 04 15:43:51 <jkroon> koen, how do you handle all those patches in meta-beagleboard, do you use quilt or something like that ?
May 04 15:44:05 * emeb_mac clamps lips shut.
May 04 15:45:59 <alan_o> jkroon: The kernel ones are managed in the github tree https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel/tree/3.8
May 04 15:46:21 <alan_o> jkridner: running patch.sh generates the stuff that goes in the OE recipe.
May 04 15:46:38 <jkroon> alan_o, ah I see
May 04 15:46:39 <alan_o> sorry, jkroon ^^
May 04 15:47:34 <falstaff> Hi
May 04 15:47:55 <falstaff> which device tree is loaded by default? There is nothing special configured on my beaglebone black uEnv.txt
May 04 15:48:18 <alan_o> are there still multiple uEnv.txt files?
May 04 15:48:26 <alan_o> (seems like I asked this recently)
May 04 15:48:39 <alan_o> falstaff: iirc, look in /boot/ for the uEnv.txt taht's being used.
May 04 15:48:52 <alan_o> the one on the FAT partition is just there to distract and confuse :)
May 04 15:50:00 <falstaff> alan_o, hm, but even that one only contains optargs=run_hardware_tests quiet
May 04 15:50:57 <jkroon> cd ..
May 04 15:51:05 <alan_o> good question then. I build the DT into the kernel image, so I haven't run it the way you describe. Maybe you can find some clues by running printenv in u-boot
May 04 15:51:09 <KotH> hmm.. 10 bucks for an arm926 in qfp...
May 04 15:51:22 <alan_o> make sure word wrap is on
May 04 15:51:24 <ka6sox> KotH, but WHY would you want to?
May 04 15:51:26 <KotH> .o0(the possibilities!)
May 04 15:51:49 <KotH> ka6sox: i can solder a qfp case by hand, i dont trust my skills to solder bga
May 04 15:51:49 <alan_o> KotH hates him some BGA :)
May 04 15:52:07 <ka6sox> alan_o, bga is the spawn....
May 04 15:52:14 <falstaff> alan_o, oh ic:
May 04 15:52:24 <falstaff> findfdt=if test $board_name = A335BONE; then setenv fdtfile am335x-bone.dtb; fi; if test $board_name = A335BNLT; then setenv fdtfile am335x-boneblack.dtb; fi;....
May 04 15:52:37 <alan_o> that looks promising
May 04 15:52:53 <falstaff> where come this envs from? compiled into u-boot?
May 04 15:52:57 <ka6sox> falstaff, for a black that means HDMI video and eMMC
May 04 15:53:11 <alan_o> falstaff: I'm going to guess they come from eeprom
May 04 15:53:24 <alan_o> falstaff: that should be in the script too, but maybe it's compiled into u-boot.
May 04 15:55:17 <ka6sox> today I need to wade into the garage and find the books for KotH
May 04 15:56:36 <KotH> ka6sox: you dont "need" to, but it would be very much appreciated :)
May 04 15:57:03 <ka6sox> if you don't hear back, send the rescue squad....with spelunking gear....
May 04 15:57:29 * KotH calles hobbes to tell him to get ready
May 04 16:01:04 <ka6sox> I'm going to murder these crows....
May 04 16:01:45 <dm8tbr> you're in 'murica, just shoot them ;)
May 04 16:05:09 <ka6sox> dm8tbr, they are sitting on the FiOS cable....bad idea
May 04 16:16:31 <ka6sox> later folks
May 04 16:17:07 <shodan45> are there any consumer friendly (aka not digikey) sites that are shipping the bbb?
May 04 16:17:48 <emeb_mac> what's wrong with digikey?
May 04 16:17:54 <emeb_mac> always works for me.
May 04 16:19:33 <shodan45> digikey's site isn't exactly amazon-level friendly imho
May 04 16:20:24 <shodan45> I'm asking for friends, etc., I already got mine from digikey :)
May 04 16:21:11 <emeb_mac> I dunno - if you're not smart enough to order something from DK, maybe the BBB isn't for you. :)
May 04 16:21:15 <alan_o> tell them to just use digikey. We're not talking about buying DVDs and consumery crap here.
May 04 16:21:42 <alan_o> shodan45: maybe adafruit is more their speed.
May 04 16:21:51 <alan_o> they're "friendly" in the sense you mean.
May 04 16:22:10 <alan_o> I don't know why everyone is so down on digkey
May 04 16:22:17 <shodan45> alan_o: right, but are they actually shipping it?
May 04 16:22:47 <jbdatko> Adafruit is great.  I just got BB (one day before BBB :(  ) and their GPS chip.  Very fast shipping.  Great tutorials too.
May 04 16:22:52 <alan_o> shodan45: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=adafruit+beaglebone+black
May 04 16:23:25 <jbdatko> Although, I'm not too far from NYC where they ship from...
May 04 16:23:48 <shodan45> alan_o: I'm a long time web dev (unfortunately), and I could go on & on about what's wrong with digikey's site...
May 04 16:26:54 <cjm_> Hi Folks, I am restoring an old car.  Cars have lots of sensor to read and lots of controls to set.  I think BeagleBlack will probably do nicely.  I have a few questions.  I expect that I am going to need to read a lot more A/D sensor than the standard 8.  How do I expand that using another CAN board with LOTS of A/D ports?  Second, does Black have WiFi?
May 04 16:27:24 <alan_o> ok, so it's not perfect. Big deal. Nothing is. They sell a TON of stuff, it ships IMMEDIATELY and they are friendly to hobbyists and 1-off purchasers. Oh, and they have good support. Ever use the online chat? It's real people in Minnesota (I've met a few of them and they're outstanding). Sure you can go to arrow if you want to buy 1000 units, and yes it will be cheaper than digikey, and maybe they'll even deliver it to your office in a l
May 04 16:27:24 <alan_o> imo in 3 weeks when they get it from the manufacturer. But who cares about all that stuff if you only want 1 or 2 or 10 for development and you need it right away?
May 04 16:28:34 <alan_o> I guess that's my piece. They're good for what they're good for. People criticize them often for stuff that isn't their business model.
May 04 16:28:55 <alan_o> all that said, if you want a BBB and hate digikey, use Adafruit, they're back in stock :)
May 04 16:30:01 * KotH hands alan_o a piece of chocolate
May 04 16:30:16 * alan_o nom nom nom
May 04 16:31:24 <KotH> cjm_: spi or i2c, no
May 04 16:31:36 <alan_o> cjm_: I'd not use a BBB, or other hobbyist board, to control a car. 2nd, the A/D on the AM335x is weak. It's designed for touch screens. If you want real A/D for a car, use something industrial that's designed for it. 3: There is no wifi on board.
May 04 16:32:23 <KotH> alan_o: if the car is old, these sensors are probably for maintenance only, not for controlling the system
May 04 16:32:42 * KotH wouldnt trust any self build system to control a car
May 04 16:32:48 <jkroon> falstaff, I have my dtb compiled into my Beaglebone kernel it seems
May 04 16:33:02 <KotH> unless this self is a trained and experienced EE
May 04 16:33:18 <jkroon> falstaff, built using OpenEmbedded
May 04 16:33:37 <alan_o> KotH: you mean someone who actually reads the "electrical specifications" section of datasheets?
May 04 16:34:12 <KotH> alan_o: juup... and knows what the failure modes of electronics are
May 04 16:34:42 <falstaff> jkroon, they are around under /boot
May 04 16:34:48 <cmicali> I think i put a bunk uImage on a bbb - uboot says "Wrong image format for bootm command"
May 04 16:34:59 <cmicali> anyone know how to specify a different uImage from uboot?
May 04 16:35:01 <falstaff> jkroon, I think uboot determines the correct file and loads it directly from /boot
May 04 16:35:14 <alan_o> cmicali: bootm, boot, bootz commands take different formats
May 04 16:35:40 <alan_o> cmicali: make uImage makes a u-boot image for use with bootm.
May 04 16:35:49 <jkroon> falstaff, by /boot you mean the first partition, the FAT one ? Cause I dont have any dtb files there
May 04 16:35:49 <alan_o> cmicali: ^^ in the kernel tree
May 04 16:36:04 <cmicali> alan_o: that's what i've been doing, making uImage.. something about my latest build/dtb is causing this though - not exactly sure what it is
May 04 16:36:18 <alan_o> cmicali: oh :/
May 04 16:36:19 <cmicali> alan_o: but i think i have an older uImage in /boot, is there ea way to specify that filename from the uboot prompt?
May 04 16:36:20 <falstaff> jkroon, no, /boot of the root fs, on the second partition
May 04 16:37:30 <alan_o> cmicali: yes, run printenv for details on how it selects images. It will reference them by partition number, (argument to fatload, extload, etc)
May 04 16:38:01 <jkroon> falstaff, ah yes youre right
May 04 16:38:11 <jkroon> falstaff, and I have them too it seems
May 04 16:38:52 <cmicali> alan_o: following that it looks like it's just runs " bootm ${kloadaddr} - ${fdtaddr}", which are two addresses
May 04 16:39:10 <cmicali> ahhh
May 04 16:39:14 <cmicali> $bootfile = uImage
May 04 16:39:35 <alan_o> cmicali: you have to load the image into the memory address then run bootm.
May 04 16:40:02 <cmicali> "loaduimage" seems to do it
May 04 16:40:08 <cmicali> and uses the $bootfile env
May 04 16:40:14 <cmicali> gonna try it - thanks alan
May 04 16:40:30 <cmicali> there's no way to view the mounted mmc filesystem is there?
May 04 16:41:44 <alan_o> cmicali: not that I've used. might be but I just don't know.
May 04 16:42:55 <falstaff> is there a good how to cross compile the kernel for beagle bone
May 04 16:43:29 <cmicali> falstaff: http://azkeller.com/blog/?p=129
May 04 16:46:10 <cmicali> alan_o: ls mmc 1:2 /boot
May 04 16:46:31 <cmicali> got me a listing of /boot on the emmc
May 04 16:47:44 <falstaff> cmicali, thx
May 04 16:59:04 <Guest12906> Hi, i just bought my beagle bone black. After instaling the drivers i wanted to connect to the web server, but the page does not say"succesfuly connected to ur beagle"
May 04 17:01:40 <woglinde> which drivers?
May 04 17:01:50 <woglinde> windows?
May 04 17:02:01 <Guest12906> yes 64 bit
May 04 17:02:15 <woglinde> better use linux
May 04 17:02:19 <woglinde> bone uses linux too
May 04 17:02:55 <Guest12906> well then i have to install linux first, but thx
May 04 17:03:25 <woglinde> and almost all people here using linux or mac
May 04 17:03:44 <woglinde> so I do not know who can help you
May 04 17:04:07 <chupacabra> ya.  i didnt install drivers.  BBB just showed up when I plugged in on Fedora 19
May 04 17:05:10 <Guest12906> ok thx anyways
May 04 17:05:16 <jbdatko> Guest12906: maybe you can run linux on virtual box on your windows box?
May 04 17:05:30 <jbdatko> and connect that way?
May 04 17:05:53 <jbdatko> (I have a mac, so I haven't done that myself...)
May 04 17:06:01 <malcom2073> I run the standard beaglebone on windows, without issue. but I've never used their web interface thingie
May 04 17:06:36 <woglinde> hm so many new faces
May 04 17:07:34 <evilwulfie> Guest12906  use chrome  there are bugs with ff
May 04 17:07:52 <evilwulfie> the script is broken for FF
May 04 17:08:19 <Guest12906> thx
May 04 17:08:19 <Guest12906> !
May 04 17:08:23 <Guest12906> will try that
May 04 17:13:02 <Guest12906> thx guys, everything fine with chrome
May 04 17:13:09 <evilwulfie> :)
May 04 17:14:24 <evilwulfie> sign up for the beagleboard google groups  it was explained there
May 04 17:18:48 <kaelin> Guest12906 What host OS are you running? What browser?
May 04 17:31:45 <cjm_> alan_o, Thanks...  That's very helpful.
May 04 17:54:02 <_av500_> ahoi
May 04 18:08:38 <MH> ay captain
May 04 18:10:14 <ka6sox-farfarawa> arrrr
May 04 18:10:35 <Jskov> Does anyone know how fast ethernet and usb run when in use at the same time? Does ethernet sit off usb bus like on the raspberry pi?
May 04 18:11:11 <ka6sox-farfarawa> Jskov, the schematics are published.
May 04 18:11:39 <Jskov> Yes, i know. But i lack the skills to read them.
May 04 18:13:23 <_av500_> no
May 04 18:13:30 <_av500_> ehtrnet is part of the SoC
May 04 18:14:05 <ka6sox-farfarawa> the mii port
May 04 18:14:07 <Jskov> Nice, so it should perform better than the pi. Look forward to try it out.
May 04 18:14:12 <Jskov> thanks!
May 04 18:14:22 <_av500_> depends on what you mean with perfomr
May 04 18:14:46 <_av500_> maybe it can write 100Mbit/s to /dev/null
May 04 18:15:14 <ka6sox-farfarawa> does the 3359 have the memory BW to support 100Mb continuous?
May 04 18:15:39 <_av500_> no idea
May 04 18:15:47 <ka6sox-farfarawa> probably not
May 04 18:15:55 <_av500_> never had the use case
May 04 18:16:19 <ka6sox-farfarawa> I only care about 128Kb  streams.
May 04 18:16:56 <_av500_> +1
May 04 18:17:19 <_av500_> maybe one can bitbang 100mbit/s out thru the pru
May 04 18:18:09 <ka6sox-farfarawa> _av500_, I intend to find out
May 04 18:18:14 <_av500_> good
May 04 18:18:29 <ka6sox-farfarawa> just have to wait till people have time to review the schematics on the cape
May 04 18:18:32 <_av500_> bitbang gigE on the PRU
May 04 18:18:38 <_av500_> ka6sox-farfarawa: schematics?
May 04 18:18:54 <ka6sox-farfarawa> yes, I designed a cape for JTAG/Debug
May 04 18:19:22 <ka6sox-farfarawa> (and another for really fast serial...
May 04 18:19:23 <ka6sox-farfarawa> )
May 04 18:19:33 <Jskov> I ask, because i want to setup tv recording on a low power device. The pi can probably keep up with the 10Mb tv stream and handle writing it to disk. But I doubt it can serve existing recordings on the network at the same time.
May 04 18:20:06 <ka6sox-farfarawa> Jskov, what media are you going to record to?
May 04 18:20:26 <_av500_> VCR tape
May 04 18:20:27 <Jskov> Usb hard disk, non-ssd
May 04 18:20:31 <_av500_> er, VCR cape
May 04 18:20:35 <Jskov> :)
May 04 18:20:46 <_av500_> hmm tape cape
May 04 18:20:52 <ka6sox-farfarawa> heh
May 04 18:21:02 <_av500_> hmm, tuba cape
May 04 18:21:06 <_av500_> tube*
May 04 18:21:24 <ka6sox-farfarawa> doesnt' mranostay have that one already?
May 04 18:21:26 <Jskov> I use an atom box at the moment, but would like something cheaper and more silent to run
May 04 18:22:08 <_av500_> rule of thumb you will get 20MB/s to the hdd over usb
May 04 18:22:19 <_av500_> that should be plenty
May 04 18:22:37 <ka6sox-farfarawa> if I wanted silent...I'd go SSD
May 04 18:22:47 <_av500_> drives are pretty quiet
May 04 18:23:01 <_av500_> and cheap
May 04 18:23:15 <Jskov> Yeah, usb 2.5" is near silent
May 04 18:24:15 <Jskov> Rpi runs everything on the usb bus, hdd, tv card and ethernet, so it's not really suited
May 04 18:24:46 <Jskov> I guess i'll buy a besgle and see how it fares. Cheap enough :)
May 04 18:25:16 <ka6sox-farfarawa> Jskov, be sure to let us know how its going...I'd be curious
May 04 18:25:32 <Jskov> Will do, thanks for the ping pong
May 04 18:25:57 <ka6sox-farfarawa> yw
May 04 18:28:13 <cmicali> maybe i just don't get it but the cape/overlay DT stuff is kind of nutty
May 04 18:29:09 <cmicali> lots of gochas
May 04 18:35:25 <ka6sox-farfarawa> _av500_, I need to get this into OSHpark early next week.
May 04 18:37:47 <jkroon> I know I saw an example somewhere of how to define a LCD panel in the dtb.. think it was in one of the patches in meta-beagleboard...but cant find it now :-/
May 04 18:45:24 <cmicali> has anyone had any success getting the PRU to work on beagle bone black?
May 04 18:45:43 <cmicali> i had everything working great on bone, but bone black is fialing
May 04 18:51:15 <dalroth5> I have read that owncloud (and maybe others) can be got working on the Pi; but I don't see anything in the FAQ, wiki etc. about using Beagles. Has anybody tried it?
May 04 18:51:44 <_av500_> why should it not work
May 04 18:58:39 <dalroth5> Just curious, that's all. I don't know anything about the Beagles, but I'm a bit puzzled as to why the newest one is cheaper than the 'bare bones' one even though it's a faster processor etc. You guys obviously know all about them, so then I should be able to make a small cloud with a few of the new Blacks, or would that be a stupid idea?
May 04 18:58:46 <KotH> _av500_: do you know how good the A10 support in linux currently is?
May 04 18:58:54 <KotH> _av500_: is anything major missing?
May 04 18:59:13 <cmicali> dalroth5: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!category-topic/beagleboard/9aLzt68mq9I
May 04 19:00:45 <dalroth5> Thanks! I'll go and read.
May 04 19:03:03 <mru> _av500_: maybe it renders the cloud on the gpu
May 04 19:06:10 <_av500_> KotH: uhm
May 04 19:06:20 <_av500_> in mainline there is ony small bits
May 04 19:06:30 <_av500_> an excoworker is on it
May 04 19:06:48 <_av500_> mripard in #buildroot
May 04 19:06:59 <KotH> hmm...
May 04 19:07:04 <KotH> _av500_: thanks!
May 04 19:07:10 <_av500_> of course there are code drops from allwinner
May 04 19:07:19 <_av500_> I have some too
May 04 19:07:40 <KotH> after the desaster with the i.mx28 i will not touch any processor that does not have its drivers in mainline
May 04 19:07:43 <_av500_> there are some GPL releases for our stuff that have A10
May 04 19:07:50 <KotH> i.mx23...
May 04 19:07:53 <_av500_> well
May 04 19:08:13 <_av500_> since you are industrial, you can allow to use "old" silicon :)
May 04 19:08:21 <KotH> *g*
May 04 19:08:31 <_av500_> but I bet by the tim A10 is mainline, it is also "gone"
May 04 19:08:39 <KotH> yeah.. probably...
May 04 19:09:12 <KotH> i guess allwinner targets tabletts&co specifically?
May 04 19:09:22 <_av500_> more or less
May 04 19:09:27 <_av500_> its all android
May 04 19:09:49 <_av500_> they will target whatever is en vogue
May 04 19:10:30 <_av500_> A10 is like the SoC in rpi, nice for a STB :)
May 04 19:11:04 * KotH will make sure, next project is an STB :)
May 04 19:11:08 <_av500_> yes
May 04 19:11:10 <woglinde> koth haha
May 04 19:11:13 <_av500_> that makes things easy
May 04 19:11:21 <woglinde> next project should be tv
May 04 19:11:49 <woglinde> samsung has now voice and gestutre support in the top models
May 04 19:12:53 <_av500_> does it work as crappy as in S4?
May 04 19:13:11 <_av500_> reminds me of what one Chinese coworker once said
May 04 19:13:20 <_av500_> "it must have all the features, but they must not work well"
May 04 19:13:47 <mru> and certainly not all at once
May 04 19:14:31 <_av500_> so S$ has so many features now that there is an "easy" mode....
May 04 19:14:33 <_av500_> s4
May 04 19:14:47 <KotH> huh? what?
May 04 19:15:01 <_av500_> said some review
May 04 19:15:25 <KotH> i always thought of android as an dumbed down version of symbian that works
May 04 19:15:36 <mru> symbian is just weird
May 04 19:15:47 <mru> that said, the nokia phones worked
May 04 19:16:02 <KotH> mine didnt, at least the last ones didnt
May 04 19:16:07 <_av500_> http://techcrunch.com/2013/04/23/samsung-galaxy-s4-review-the-s-stands-for-super-not-simple/
May 04 19:16:18 <KotH> they showed more and more software bugs over time
May 04 19:16:29 <mru> mine even had google maps
May 04 19:16:38 <_av500_> 2110 was rock solied
May 04 19:16:41 <_av500_> solid
May 04 19:16:47 <mru> soiled rock
May 04 19:17:09 <KotH> _av500_: yeah.. and you could use it as a rock replacement if there was a need
May 04 19:17:34 <_av500_> yes
May 04 19:22:22 * KotH wonders what power hungry app needs the 4 cores of the s4
May 04 19:23:44 <chandler> the s4 can do split screen multitasking in certain apps, though it's still hard to come up with a good example requiring 4 cores
May 04 19:23:54 * KotH also wonders whether flicker noise in diode laser pumped Rb vapor frequency standards could be reduced using a different technique
May 04 19:28:42 <terisk> I am trying to use PyBBIO with a new beaglebone black. The latest Angstrom doesn't seem to have pwm in /sys/class/pwm. Did it move or is it not included?
May 04 19:31:31 <_av500_> it kinda moved
May 04 19:31:38 <_av500_> not sure where
May 04 19:39:18 <MH> cmicali I don't have the pru running on black but it is on my todo list for today, had any luck yet
May 04 19:40:14 <MH> ?*
May 04 19:45:46 <Fwny> Anyone get the FTDI serial driver working for the black on a 64bit mac?
May 04 19:46:38 * mranostay hands _av500_ a beer
May 04 19:47:09 <Fwny> seems the bundled plist doesn't have an entry matching the black's IDs
May 04 19:49:34 <mranostay> ka6sox-away: love the forum shopping the students are doing...
May 04 19:54:09 <Fwny_> added the correct IDs and the driver causes a kernel panic when I try to use the serial device
May 04 19:57:26 <al-tawash> hello everybody
May 04 20:10:15 <Fwny> ah nvm, no FTDI device on the black
May 04 20:50:37 <shodan45> hm, not much on ebay for beaglebone
May 04 20:52:05 <mranostay> why ebay?
May 04 20:52:31 <shodan45> mranostay: because cheap crap ;p
May 04 20:53:12 <shodan45> compare about 10 listings for beaglebone to nearly 10k for arduino
May 04 20:53:59 <mranostay> $90 or $45 is too much for you?
May 04 20:54:23 <shodan45> mranostay: no... I'm looking for stuff related to beaglebone
May 04 20:58:17 <thurbad> gotta be a bit careful about mismarked beagle stuff on ebay
May 04 21:01:57 <_av500_> mranostay: thanks
May 04 21:02:34 <cmicali> mranostay: have you done any PRU stuff on beagle bone black?
May 04 21:08:31 <mranostay> cmicali: yeah it isn't any different
May 04 21:09:13 <cmicali> mranostay: so it's been working for you?  I've been having trouble getting it to work.. was all find on the BB, but I'm seeing weird behavior on BBB w/ cape manager - not initializing properly, etc
May 04 21:09:58 <mranostay> er you have the pinmux correct?
May 04 21:10:52 <cmicali> i cloned your nixie overlay, left it exactly the same but removed the pwm sections
May 04 21:11:17 <cmicali> and when it loads on boot it fails - some error from hwmod 'failed to hardreset'
May 04 21:12:29 <cmicali> if i ignore cape manager, i get the same issues with my old single DTS that enabled the pruss and did a few other thing
May 04 21:12:37 <mranostay> yeah iirc it needs to be 'built-in'
May 04 21:12:41 <mranostay> for the fireware
May 04 21:12:44 <mranostay> *firmware
May 04 21:13:02 <cmicali> yeah i added a section in the dtsi that was like the HDMI/emmc
May 04 21:13:04 <cmicali> that made it "built in
May 04 21:13:25 <mranostay> hmm no builtin the kernel image
May 04 21:13:33 <mranostay> not /lib/firmware
May 04 21:13:34 <cmicali> ah
May 04 21:14:10 <cmicali> I'm starting over patching the kernel - i'm gonna try disabling cape manager in the .config and see what happens
May 04 21:19:31 <mranostay> cmicali: what are you doing with the PRU?
May 04 21:19:34 <_av500_> mranostay: what did you mean with forum shopping?
May 04 21:19:58 <mranostay> _av500_: submitting same thing to multiple orgs
May 04 21:20:20 <_av500_> ah
May 04 21:20:23 <cmicali> mranostay: prototype hardware, 18 channels of a/d on three chips, PRU pulling data from them and streaming it to DDR
May 04 21:20:49 <cmicali> needed more ram for post-processing though, and headroom on cpu was tight, so trying to move to the black
May 04 21:21:11 <_av500_> mranostay: the "prevent piracy" guy is shopping his bachelor thesis around
May 04 21:21:56 <mranostay> cmicali: are you one of the gsoc students?
May 04 21:22:38 <cmicali> mranostay: no..  well past being a student :)
May 04 21:23:19 * _av500_ looks at his student ID
May 04 21:24:05 <mranostay> _av500_: 000001 ?
May 04 21:24:13 <_av500_> no
May 04 21:24:28 <_av500_> but 6 digits, they are at 7 now :)
May 04 21:50:15 <cmicali> mranostay: when i use the DTS that worked on the beagle bone to enable the pruss, i get "pruss_uio 4a300000.pruss: No children" in dmesg on the black
May 04 21:53:39 <mranostay> heh "(Your unit allows up to 6 additional occupants)" what commune could i run from a studio? :)
May 04 21:53:56 <mranostay> cmicali: new one but i should work
May 04 21:53:56 <mru> run a brothel
May 04 21:55:08 <cmicali> mranostay: it's like the 'pruss' node in the device tree is empty, but it's clearly defined in am33xx.dtsi
May 04 21:57:05 <mranostay> status = "okay"   ?
May 04 21:57:35 <cmicali> yeah i have &pruss {
May 04 21:57:35 <cmicali>         status = "okay";
May 04 21:57:35 <cmicali>         pinctrl-names = "default";
May 04 21:57:35 <cmicali>         pinctrl-0 = <&pruss_pins>;
May 04 21:57:35 <cmicali> }; in the am335x-boneblack.dts
May 04 21:57:51 <cmicali> (trying with the cape manager completely disabled/removed)
May 04 22:12:48 <mmitchel> hiya
May 04 22:17:20 <mmitchel> is there a wiki on how to bringup dhcp on eth0, angstrom, beaglebone black? i am manually having to call udhcpc to get an ipv4 address
May 04 22:28:49 <mranostay> cmicali: you have the HDMI disabled right?
May 04 22:28:56 <cmicali> mranostay: yes
May 04 22:29:20 <mranostay> what pins are you using?
May 04 22:29:42 <cmicali> mranostay: a bunch of them, all R30/R31 pins
May 04 22:29:50 <cmicali> but i don't even think it's getting that far
May 04 22:30:03 <mranostay> no other cape conflicts
May 04 22:30:05 <cmicali> this is in dmesg near boot
May 04 22:30:05 <cmicali> [    0.129598] omap_hwmod: pruss: failed to hardreset
May 04 22:30:38 <cmicali> since that happens, it appears the pin ctrl stuff is ignored
May 04 22:31:02 <cmicali> i have all cape / cape manager stuff removed from am33xx.dtsi and am335x-bone-common.dtsi
May 04 22:31:22 <cmicali> after riffing with the older dtsis i had on the 3.8.6 kernel it's almost the same except for a couple bug fixes
May 04 22:31:32 <cmicali> s/riffing/diffing
May 04 22:33:12 <mranostay> mrpackethead: kiwi dude
May 04 22:34:05 <Michael__> hi
May 04 22:34:40 <Michael__> anyone connects "Vegetronix soil moisture sensor"  before?
May 04 22:35:09 <cmicali> no but i love the name vegetronix
May 04 22:35:50 <mranostay> er
May 04 22:35:52 <Michael__> http://www.vegetronix.com/Products/Soil-Moisture-Sensor-Probes.phtml
May 04 22:35:56 <mranostay> what is the interface type?
May 04 22:36:45 <mranostay> Michael__: seems simple with the A/D inputs
May 04 22:36:51 <mranostay> with a voltage divider
May 04 22:37:43 <mranostay> mrpackethead: seems i'm going to miss your troll tour of the US
May 04 22:55:20 <segfault_> okay gents, I have a bit of a problem and I'm hoping someone here can help. I've got a new beaglebone black running the 2013.04 release of u-boot and for the life of me I can't get a linux kernel to boot on it. I've tried using independent .dtb files, I've tried appending the .dtb to the kernel image yet I can't get one to boot. If I use the .dtb files separately I get an unknown machine id error and the boot halts, if I embed the
May 04 22:55:32 <segfault_> hangs after 'booting the kernel.'. I know my kernel bootargs are correct
May 04 22:56:31 <segfault_> I'm using the kernel source tree from https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel.git and the kernel config from that... which according to the gentoo wiki should work on a black
May 04 22:59:41 <cmicali> segfault: have you tried flashing the eMMC with the stock image and then dropping you new uImage/dtbs into /boot?
May 04 23:01:05 <segfault_> I have. I've given up on flashing the eMMC every time and I am instead using uboot to tftp the uImage/dtbs
May 04 23:01:57 <segfault_> I just ran a build with the default config from https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel.git and discovered that the default build wont even boot on the black
May 04 23:02:18 <cmicali> segfault: i just flashed it once, and then write my uImage/dtb over and if it fails i have a backup uImage/dtb in boot i load from boot
May 04 23:02:25 <NoProblem> Hey does any have link to Debian image for beaglebone black
May 04 23:02:30 <cmicali> segfault_: hm the default works for me, you using the 3.8 branch?
May 04 23:02:58 <segfault_> Yup, 3.8.11 to be exact.
May 04 23:03:17 <cmicali> with the default build you need to copy am33*.dtb to /boot, and also copy firmware/*.dtbo to /lib/firmware
May 04 23:04:30 <segfault_> im appending the .dtb to the kernel, so would i still need to copy it?
May 04 23:04:45 <cmicali> i guess not, but i haven't done that so not sure
May 04 23:04:54 <brendan_> Hi, I followed the instructions here: http://www.armhf.com/index.php/getting-started-with-ubuntu-img-file/ for loading ubuntu, but I'm struggling with talking to the board now.  Can I SSH into it somehow?
May 04 23:05:59 <segfault_> when i wasn't appending it and i was giving the kernel the memory address via the bootline it would give me the 'unknown machine id' error. I was able to get it to boot a few times but i for the life of me can't remember what i did differently
May 04 23:06:13 <segfault_> (I was drunk at the time i actually got the damn thing to work)
May 04 23:06:38 <MH> brendan should, I SSH into mine. what is your error?
May 04 23:07:01 <brendan_> no 'error' per say...i don't know its IP haha
May 04 23:07:24 <segfault_> I'll have to keep tinkering cmicali, but thanks for the help, knowing that should work is making me go back and look at my boot method
May 04 23:07:25 <MH> brendan ah yea I think you need to find that first
May 04 23:07:36 <mru> hmm, nmap...
May 04 23:07:44 <cmicali> segfault_: yeah sorry can't be more help - seems like something is weird - let me find the link to the latest latest image
May 04 23:08:01 <brendan_> MH any idea how?
May 04 23:08:14 <segfault_> cool, I may try and just do a straight boot of that, my problem is the latest default image doesn't have a few features I need enabled :P
May 04 23:08:37 <ka6sox> brendan_, is it not 192.168.7.2?
May 04 23:08:40 <cmicali> koen posted a newer version
May 04 23:08:51 <cmicali> and that one has a uboot build in it that fixed my issues
May 04 23:09:00 * ka6sox looks to see if it got to his mirror
May 04 23:09:02 <cmicali> just trying to find the thread on the groups
May 04 23:09:41 <segfault_> http://www.eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black is the guide i've mainly been following
May 04 23:10:05 <segfault_> hrm, methinks my version of uboot may be evil.
May 04 23:10:25 <cmicali> segfault_: http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/angstrom/beaglebone/BBB-eMMC-flasher-2013.05.02.img.xz
May 04 23:10:26 <ka6sox> cmicali, the latest one on my mirror is 4.13
May 04 23:10:35 <ka6sox> oh, never mind
May 04 23:10:42 <cmicali> ka6sox: sorry, it was something koen posted on the forums
May 04 23:10:48 <ka6sox> okay
May 04 23:10:54 <ka6sox> I guess its test code
May 04 23:11:10 * eikeon Any ideas on the following error? I've been having a hard time figuring out my uEnv.txt http://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone#BeagleBone-uEnv.txtbasedbootscript reading /dtbs/am335x-boneblack.dtb
May 04 23:11:11 * eikeon 23469 bytes read in 10 ms (2.2 MiB/s)
May 04 23:11:11 * eikeon ERROR: Did not find a cmdline Flattened Device Tree
May 04 23:11:27 <segfault_> the PITA of it is I'm trying to maintain a single image for both the beaglebone and beaglebone black
May 04 23:11:35 <segfault_> I use them as appliances for a product
May 04 23:11:37 <eikeon> guessing it's related to:
May 04 23:11:38 <ka6sox> everytime I think of Flattened Fauna.
May 04 23:11:39 <eikeon> U-Boot# printenv loadftd
May 04 23:11:39 <eikeon> ## Error: "loadftd" not defined
May 04 23:11:50 <eikeon> Where's loadftd supposed to be getting defined?
May 04 23:12:11 <ka6sox> eikeon, we don't load flowers
May 04 23:12:25 <ka6sox> how about trying loadfDT instead of fTD
May 04 23:13:02 <eikeon> Ah… that's defined:
May 04 23:13:03 <eikeon> loadfdt=load mmc ${mmcdev}:${mmcpart} ${fdtaddr} /dtbs/${fdtfile}
May 04 23:14:05 <segfault_> one more quick question, I'm building on ubuntu using the arm-linux-gnueabi toolchain that I installed via apt... is the linaro toolchain really necessary?
May 04 23:14:10 <cmicali> segfault_: yes - i'm working on a product prototype, bone was the core - trying to upgrade to black, big mistak
May 04 23:14:30 <segfault_> cmicali: okay, so I'm not the only one in this boat :D
May 04 23:16:43 <cmicali> segfault_: right there with you - have been fighting it since thursday
May 04 23:16:57 <cmicali> segfault_: I've been using the gnueabi toolchain for months, and it's worked for me so far
May 04 23:17:58 <segfault_> okay cool. Just wanted to make sure.
May 04 23:18:08 <segfault_> I'm trying to eliminate all obnoxious possibilities
May 04 23:18:22 <cmicali> that koen image solved a lot of issues for me
May 04 23:18:48 <cmicali> b/c it included a very new uboot and solved a few bugs in the stock image
May 04 23:18:58 <mru> the packaged compiler in ubuntu should be ok
May 04 23:19:06 <mru> it's essentially the linaro one anyway
May 04 23:22:13 <eikeon> ka6sox: ty. now to figure out why my .dtb is not liked
May 04 23:38:34 <cmicali> mranostay: i just did the untouched 3.8 kernel and see the PRU errors - so out of the box the nixie cape won't work, but if you follow this voodoo it actually works; https://groups.google.com/d/msg/beagleboard/gqCjxh4uZi0/_uIUD8ZF88QJ
May 04 23:40:13 <eikeon> Perhaps I'm not specifying the bootz parameters right… can anyone point me in the right direction re: figuring out what the parameters should be?
May 04 23:40:19 <eikeon> I currently have: bootz 0x80200000 - 0x815f0000
May 04 23:42:19 <kaelin> Has anyone tried FreeBSD on their bbb yet?
May 04 23:42:29 <kaelin> http://people.freebsd.org/~dmarion/beaglebone/creating_bootable_sd_card/
May 04 23:42:41 <dgv> can anyone please tell me where I can find the source to the kernel for the beaglebone black. The same exact one that shipped on it (no newer, no older, no different).
May 04 23:44:17 <cmicali> dgv: https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel/tree/3.8
May 04 23:46:56 <dgv> curious. mine shipped with 3.2.something
May 04 23:47:07 <dgv> (so it could not possibly be 3.8.something)
May 04 23:48:45 <robtow> what does uname -a tell you?
May 04 23:50:47 <dgv> if i had a way to get the thing to boot back up i'd tell you, but i remember it was 3.2.something. this is the first time ever i'd had no luck booting linux on anything. every kernel ive tried to build for this thing dies silently. i'll try that 3.8 repo now and hope it works out
May 04 23:52:25 <dgv> geh! that repo does not have a kernel. just a patch and a readme. (pretty sure GPLv2 section 3a requires a complete source to exist and be offered, not in the form of "go get this, that and that other things, and cobble them together thusly") :(
May 05 00:00:25 <eikeon> dove into the u-boot source I'm using to shed light on boots arguments. Looks like the last argument was incorrect causing my dtb related error.
May 05 00:00:48 <rp181> where can I find what the headers actually have? Are they all 1 bit ports?
May 05 00:01:38 <bieberboard> Hello, I wonder if there is a way to boot the B^3 using sdcard without having to hold S2
May 05 00:03:31 <bieberboard> gotta sing for a while, but I will check the logs thanks guys
May 05 00:03:48 <Tartarus> eikeon: what sources, andarg?
May 05 00:03:58 <cmicali> dgv: 3.8 branch - run the patch.sh and it will clone the kernel and patch it
May 05 00:04:56 <Tartarus> and, uh, where are your uboot sources from?
May 05 00:05:00 <cmicali> dgv: apparently a lot of the patches required are not mainlined, so this is the best way to do it and still be able to easily upgrade to newer versions of the kernel
May 05 00:05:58 <eikeon> Tartarus: I've followed linuxonarm/BeagleBone and am trying to figure out my uEnv.txt http://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone#BeagleBone-uEnv.txtbasedbootscript
May 05 00:06:01 <cmicali> bieberboard: i think you can do that if you modify your uboot config - might be possible in uenv.txt, but if you build uboot you can definitely change the boot script
May 05 00:06:22 <dgv> cmicali, thanks. I'm trying that now.
May 05 00:06:42 <Tartarus> eikeon: Someone needs to kick them for using addresses directly rather than ${loadaddr} / ${fdtaddr}
May 05 00:07:11 <Shadyman> Dammit, BBone, Is There Anything You Can't Do? (tm) http://blog.makezine.com/2013/05/04/using-the-beaglebone-to-control-a-powerful-upper-body-exoskeleton/
May 05 00:07:15 <eikeon> Especially when the address is wrong… or at least it didn't match ${fdtaddr} in my case.
May 05 00:07:36 <eikeon> Not my kernel is booting up, but doesn't look to be getting to far.
May 05 00:07:37 <Tartarus> Indeed :)
May 05 00:07:52 <bieberboard> cmicali: thanks, what guide do I follow to flash uBoot
May 05 00:08:40 <cmicali> bieberboard: that i have not been able to find, but if you can boot your board i think the fat partition (where uboot.img is) is in /media/something
May 05 00:08:54 <cmicali> bieberboard: so when you build uboot you can drop MLO and uboot.img in there and i think that should work
May 05 00:09:00 <cmicali> but, i'm not 100% on it
May 05 00:09:12 <bieberboard> ok lemme look, thanks
May 05 00:09:46 <Tartarus> And Robert knows he should post patches to the U-Boot ML, heh
May 05 00:10:03 <Tartarus> fixrtc belongs in optargs, in uEnv.txt
May 05 00:10:10 <Tartarus> (looking over his patch)
May 05 00:10:30 <eikeon> This is where I'm currently stuck: http://pastebin.com/EZkzyS9Q
May 05 00:10:30 <Tartarus> and the whole point of bootpart is so you don't have to go and whack around mmcdev/mmcpart :(
May 05 00:10:46 <eikeon> Not sure if it hung, crashed or what.
May 05 00:11:06 <Tartarus> what kernel?  and afk, time to deal with the kids :)
May 05 00:11:29 <cmicali> tartarus mine went down after try 3, good luck
May 05 00:32:18 <segfault_> uhh any way to get the bootloader to read uboot off of the mmc card on the beaglebone black?
May 05 00:32:50 <segfault_> nevermind, found the button
May 05 00:32:51 <segfault_> :P
May 05 00:33:12 <segfault_> hrm
May 05 00:33:23 <segfault_> cmicali: that link to the eMMC flasher failed to boot :(
May 05 00:33:36 <PiyushA> hello
May 05 00:34:23 <segfault_> http://pastebin.com/rWGeUhM4
May 05 00:35:49 <PiyushA> has anyone had a BBB just show the 1-2-3-4 led light sequence then after that get stuck 100% on the CPU light forever after that
May 05 00:35:56 <PiyushA> when booting from an SD-Card?
May 05 00:36:37 <PiyushA> i won't have the serial cable for awhile so can't see what's going on =( and looks like its too early in boot sequence for the hdmi out to be working
May 05 00:36:51 <segfault_> cmicali: funny, worked the second time i tried it
May 05 00:37:09 <segfault_> oh wtf
May 05 00:37:13 <segfault_> its powering itsself off
May 05 00:40:32 <CanyonMan> wait
May 05 00:40:35 <CanyonMan> what else would he boot it off of?
May 05 00:41:28 <segfault_> PiyushA: I believe one of the led's should blink with a heartbeat and the other should be solid
May 05 00:41:38 <PiyushA> yep.. not getting that at all :\
May 05 00:41:58 <PiyushA> problem is eMMC stopped booting cause I had updated the board and it grabbed that 3.8.10 kernel
May 05 00:42:03 <PiyushA> that stops eMMC
May 05 00:42:08 <segfault_> oh fun
May 05 00:42:18 <segfault_> yea im fighting with my BBB right now
May 05 00:42:19 <PiyushA> yeah I saw the post about it literally 5 seconds after i had rebooted and I was like
May 05 00:42:20 <PiyushA> damn
May 05 00:42:24 <PiyushA> it was working great before that
May 05 00:42:50 <CanyonMan> i have 3 regulra beaglebones
May 05 00:42:53 <CanyonMan> and i just got my bb black
May 05 00:42:58 <CanyonMan> without reading...well much of anything
May 05 00:43:14 <segfault_> I wrote http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/angstrom/beaglebone/BBB-eMMC-flasher-2013.05.02.img.xz to an SD card, held down the button to pull uImage from the sdcard and it's reflashing my eMMC right now
May 05 00:43:20 <CanyonMan> I noticed it came with no SD card, which I assume meant I had to provide my own
May 05 00:43:39 <PiyushA> yep I did that to
May 05 00:43:43 <PiyushA> but it just isnt flashing
May 05 00:43:49 <PiyushA> i dont know what its doing
May 05 00:43:52 <segfault_> you'll need a 4G sd card
May 05 00:43:56 <PiyushA> oh.
May 05 00:43:58 <PiyushA> well f
May 05 00:43:58 <PiyushA> lol
May 05 00:44:00 <segfault_> hrm
May 05 00:44:01 <PiyushA> that would do it.
May 05 00:44:09 <segfault_> took me 3 tries to get the eMMC flasher to boot
May 05 00:44:10 <PiyushA> i think mine is only 2g
May 05 00:44:14 <PiyushA> why didnt I think of that
May 05 00:44:21 <segfault_> yea, the image is for a 4g sd card
May 05 00:44:25 <CanyonMan> oh ok whew. i thought for a second i had missed something important, like they added on board flash
May 05 00:44:27 <PiyushA> @__________@
May 05 00:44:32 <PiyushA> they did add onboard flash
May 05 00:44:37 <PiyushA> it should boot the first time on its own
May 05 00:44:46 <segfault_> yup, 2G onboard
May 05 00:44:54 <PiyushA> @segfault Im surprised its a 4gb sd card image when the onbaord is 2g
May 05 00:44:57 <CanyonMan> Oh I see
May 05 00:44:58 <PiyushA> that's why I assumed i was okay
May 05 00:45:09 <PiyushA> well that
May 05 00:45:10 <CanyonMan> That's pretty crazy
May 05 00:45:11 <PiyushA> sucks
May 05 00:45:15 <segfault_> PiyushA: yup, I decompressed the image and it tuend out to be 3.5G
May 05 00:45:24 <PiyushA> I just came back from walmart buying the hdmi cable
May 05 00:45:31 <PiyushA> i guess ill go back tomorrow ~_~
May 05 00:45:48 <PiyushA> thanks a lot... you are the winner I bet for solving my problem =)
May 05 00:46:56 <segfault_> oh, bogus, even after the eMMC flash my custom kernel still wont boot
May 05 00:47:05 <segfault_> It's gotta be something im doing wrong
May 05 00:47:15 <PiyushA> well now I just feel stupid lol
May 05 00:47:34 <PiyushA> so http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/angstrom/beaglebone/BBB-eMMC-flasher-2013.05.02.img.xz - isnt working for you?
May 05 00:47:47 <PiyushA> you made sure to  take the sdcard out afterwards right?
May 05 00:48:03 <CanyonMan> does it alway boot off of the external one first, and the on board one second?
May 05 00:48:18 <PiyushA> so based on what i've read
May 05 00:48:24 <PiyushA> its complicated
May 05 00:48:32 <PiyushA> it actually does boot off the eMMC always
May 05 00:48:35 <PiyushA> *but*
May 05 00:48:41 <PiyushA> the first step of that process
May 05 00:48:46 <PiyushA> is to check if uSD is there
May 05 00:48:50 <CanyonMan> I wonder if my wifi/bluetooth cape is going to be screwed up by this
May 05 00:48:51 <PiyushA> and if it is, it will always try to boot that
May 05 00:48:57 <CanyonMan> It uses MMC too, and I forget which channel it uses
May 05 00:49:17 <PiyushA> and then if it doesnt find a uSD card then it continues to boot from eMMC
May 05 00:49:27 <CanyonMan> ahh ok
May 05 00:49:29 <CanyonMan> that's cool
May 05 00:49:37 <Shadyman> CanyonMan: IIRC, there's one complete SD card breakout on the headers
May 05 00:49:47 <Shadyman> and most of another.
May 05 00:49:50 <segfault_> PiyushA: yea i took it out... im trying to tftp a custom kernel
May 05 00:49:55 <segfault_> and i keep getting complications
May 05 00:49:58 <Shadyman> the onboard SD card is actually a third, fwiw
May 05 00:50:03 <CanyonMan> roger roger
May 05 00:50:18 <Shadyman> I've got a prototype for an SD Card Cape here, just have to solder it up
May 05 00:50:29 <CanyonMan> I built a TiWi-R2 board but I couldn't get it to work and i'm sad
May 05 00:50:33 <PiyushA> oh I see
May 05 00:50:41 <Shadyman> TiWi?
May 05 00:50:42 * Shadyman googles.
May 05 00:50:45 <segfault_> http://pastebin.com/Wy4Qz0PW
May 05 00:50:49 <segfault_> >:(
May 05 00:50:59 <Shadyman> CanyonMan: Oooh, pretty.
May 05 00:51:00 <CanyonMan> It's a little LSR wifi/bluetooth module with an SDIO interface
May 05 00:51:03 <PiyushA> I know nothing about custom kernels and stuff... haha I can program great, can wire up electronics, but when it comes to linux... the less I touch it, the better haha
May 05 00:51:16 * segfault_ gives the linux kernel the finger for not loading my FDT
May 05 00:51:24 <PiyushA> Error: unrecognized/unsupported machine ID (r1 = 0x00000e05)
May 05 00:51:31 <PiyushA> looks like you just need to add that ID
May 05 00:51:32 <Shadyman> CanyonMan: You set the pins the right way?
May 05 00:51:40 <CanyonMan> definitely
May 05 00:51:43 <PiyushA>  Please check your kernel config and/or bootloader.
May 05 00:51:44 <segfault_> Yea, that shouldn't be an issue since I'm giving it the FDT
May 05 00:51:46 <PiyushA> inside this
May 05 00:51:49 <CanyonMan> It even thinks it loads firmware
May 05 00:51:49 <PiyushA> haha okay
May 05 00:52:08 <PiyushA> again you know more than I do =) i just like to ask the obvious/stupid questions just in case
May 05 00:52:17 <CanyonMan> Koen was helping me with it for quite a while, and some others, but my project ran out of funding so I had to set it aside :-/
May 05 00:52:20 <Shadyman> PiyushA: Hey, that's MY job! :p
May 05 00:52:25 <PiyushA> can't tell you how many times ive freaked out thinking something wasnt working.. then realizing I forgot the power cable
May 05 00:52:25 <CanyonMan> and the thing is, since then, others have made ones that actually work I think
May 05 00:52:34 <PiyushA> haha
May 05 00:52:42 <CanyonMan> however I do have one that does work
May 05 00:52:48 <PiyushA> alrighty thanks for the help guys, I'll go buy a bigger micro sd card
May 05 00:52:56 <PiyushA> that's what I get for not paying attention to file sizes =)
May 05 00:53:00 <CanyonMan> it's an OBD-II interface and 12-24V DC/DC converter on a cape
May 05 00:53:07 <Shadyman> Neat.
May 05 00:53:11 <Shadyman> CAN bus?
May 05 00:53:32 <CanyonMan> OBD-II over all interfaces ... CAN, J1850-PWM, J1850-VPW, and wahtever the hell the other one is
May 05 00:53:37 <Shadyman> or are you actually throwing in a J1850--
May 05 00:53:39 <Shadyman> niiice.
May 05 00:53:50 <Shadyman> where do you find converters like that these days?
May 05 00:53:52 <CanyonMan> http://circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=BeagleBone_TiWi-BLE_w/_EXT._Antenna  see i bet taht one works
May 05 00:53:59 <Shadyman> NXP canned their J1850 interface IC
May 05 00:54:06 <CanyonMan> yeah
May 05 00:54:16 <Shadyman> using the ELMs?
May 05 00:54:31 <CanyonMan> you can make the j1850 interface out of discrete parts, it's really about 5 transistors and a couple of comparators
May 05 00:54:34 <Shadyman> The thing that gets me is that ELMs are just PICs with proprietary firmware
May 05 00:54:37 <CanyonMan> actually there's soething better than elm now
May 05 00:55:11 <Shadyman> Oh?
May 05 00:55:16 <CanyonMan> dammit
May 05 00:55:22 <Shadyman> Oh, I've heard of those.
May 05 00:55:22 <CanyonMan> you are going to ask me what it is, aren't you
May 05 00:55:32 <Shadyman> Everyone uses "Dammit!" I hear them preaching its name all the time!
May 05 00:55:39 <Shadyman> :3
May 05 00:55:51 <CanyonMan> STN1110
May 05 00:55:53 <CanyonMan> that's it
May 05 00:55:53 <Shadyman> "Did you hear that? DAMMIT!"
May 05 00:56:15 <PiyushA> how much experience do you guys have with cameras? My biggest question is, why are they always board mounted. One of the projects I'd like to do eventually is integrate the
May 05 00:56:17 <PiyushA> OVM7690
May 05 00:56:39 <PiyushA> maybe not necessarily with BBB, but raspberry pi hardware encoding should be able to handle it
May 05 00:56:49 <PiyushA> but I need to be able to have the camera on a wire
May 05 00:56:55 <CanyonMan> do yoy know what else
May 05 00:57:00 <Shadyman> CanyonMan: Niiice.
May 05 00:57:05 <CanyonMan> i implemented a J1708 receiver in the PRU :-)
May 05 00:57:05 <PiyushA> I don't have enough *practical* experience implementing stuff like that
May 05 00:57:15 <PiyushA> college only taught me crap loads of theory that I barely remember haha
May 05 00:57:21 <Shadyman> CanyonMan: That's one way to do it.
May 05 00:57:22 <PiyushA> and that was just 2 years ago..
May 05 00:57:26 <CanyonMan> OH NO
May 05 00:57:30 <CanyonMan> the TiWi-BLE board is 70 bucks
May 05 00:57:33 <CanyonMan> that's more than the BBB
May 05 00:57:46 <Shadyman> CanyonMan: Not surprising. How much is hte module itself in quantity=1?
May 05 00:57:52 <CanyonMan> 30 clams
May 05 00:58:05 <Shadyman> how about in 10s or 25s?
May 05 00:58:09 <Shadyman> $20-25?
May 05 00:58:22 <CanyonMan> i think you have to buy more than that to hit $25 but something like that
May 05 00:58:28 <CanyonMan> I'm nto sure how much I like Clara (re: Dr. Who)
May 05 00:58:33 <[1]segfault> there we go
May 05 00:58:39 <[1]segfault> get a real irc client going in here :P
May 05 00:58:52 <Shadyman> CanyonMan: Hm. Are there many supporting components that the TiWi needs? I'm leaning towards "Oh No" as well.
May 05 00:59:09 <CanyonMan> there's a disaster there too, it's um
May 05 00:59:14 <CanyonMan> it's 1.8V SDIO
May 05 00:59:19 * Shadyman squints.
May 05 00:59:27 <CanyonMan> so you need these God-awful bidirectional automatic direction finding level switchers
May 05 00:59:41 <CanyonMan> you also need a small stick and some vaseline
May 05 00:59:44 <Shadyman> Or..
May 05 00:59:46 <CanyonMan> and after all that it still won't work!
May 05 00:59:59 <Shadyman> perhaps you could bitbang SDIO over the ADC pins at 1.8V ;)
May 05 01:00:09 <CanyonMan> holy crap, you're insane
May 05 01:00:12 <Shadyman> ^
May 05 01:00:17 <CanyonMan> your winky face doesn't excuse you for that
May 05 01:00:20 <[1]segfault> okay, i've come to the conclusion I have no idea wtf im doing wrong
May 05 01:00:23 <Shadyman> haha
May 05 01:00:34 <CanyonMan> loose cockatoo on the floor, brb
May 05 01:00:40 * Shadyman squawks!
May 05 01:00:47 <[1]segfault> gah, the only time i've ever gotten a custom kernel to boot on the BBB is when i was drunk
May 05 01:00:55 <Shadyman> [1]segfault: So start drinking!
May 05 01:01:11 <CanyonMan> yeah. that sounds like a plan. you have to try it again and see if the pattern is repeatble.
May 05 01:01:16 <chupacabra> i second that
May 05 01:01:33 * [1]segfault whacks head on keyboard
May 05 01:01:39 <chupacabra> lol
May 05 01:01:49 <[1]segfault> I've been fighting with this thing since thursday
May 05 01:02:12 <Shadyman> so far on the testing block, I have an SD Card Cape, a NEO-6M GPS Cape, and an iButton/1-Wire Cape
May 05 01:02:18 <chupacabra> only a couple of days?
May 05 01:02:53 <Shadyman> and then I made a prototype cape that's all through-hole except for the EEPROM
May 05 01:02:57 <Shadyman> and full of holes :3
May 05 01:03:14 <chupacabra> I remember getting X to work in 2 weeks in 95
May 05 01:03:21 <Shadyman> :o
May 05 01:03:29 <Shadyman> ALL GLORY TO THE CHUPATOAD!
May 05 01:03:41 <levi> Heh, custom modeline hell.  The good old days of X.
May 05 01:03:48 <chupacabra> hey 2 days is trivial
May 05 01:04:11 <Shadyman> I still shudder when I play with graphics drivers.
May 05 01:04:18 <chupacabra> me too
May 05 01:04:53 <levi> The realm of graphics and video is pure evil, carried forward from the early days of analog television.
May 05 01:04:57 <[1]segfault> It's gotta be something with this dtb
May 05 01:05:57 <levi> Ever look at the standards for DVI/HDMI?
May 05 01:06:05 <Shadyman> CanyonMan: I'd imagine your STN cape uses some kind of DB15 or DB25 connector to hook up a cable like most tools?
May 05 01:07:54 <Shadyman> CanyonMan: Keep in mind as an alternative option that you can always just bluetooth to something like http://dx.com/p/super-mini-elm327-bluetooth-odb2-v1-5-car-diagnostic-interface-tool-blue-142679 as well, though it wouldn't provide power or be as cool as a cape on its own ;)
May 05 01:11:41 * [1]segfault bangs head on keyboard in a repetitive manner
May 05 01:11:59 <[1]segfault> something has got to be wrong with the dtb im using
May 05 01:12:00 <cmicali> segfault: where are you now?
May 05 01:12:10 <cmicali> stock kernel from 3.8 branch
May 05 01:12:13 <cmicali> and your own DTB?
May 05 01:12:13 <[1]segfault> Uncompressing Linux... done, booting the kernel.
May 05 01:12:21 <cmicali> have you tried the DTB that gets build from the stock 3.8 branch?
May 05 01:12:28 <[1]segfault> yes :D
May 05 01:12:45 <cmicali> and that won't boot?
May 05 01:12:57 <[1]segfault> I'm even appending it to the end of the kernel using: root@builder:~/beagleboneblack/linux-dev/KERNEL# make -j3 ARCH=arm LOCALVERSION=-bone16 CROSS_COMPILE="arm-linux-gnueabi-" uImage-dtb.am335x-boneblack
May 05 01:13:03 <cmicali> did you flash the emmc using that koen image?
May 05 01:13:06 <[1]segfault> yup
May 05 01:13:15 <[1]segfault> that boots just fine, with the angstrom kernel
May 05 01:13:22 <[1]segfault> my custom kernel is giving me the finger
May 05 01:13:43 <[1]segfault> its something I'm doing, i just have no idea what
May 05 01:14:33 <cmicali> when you say your kernel, what are the diffs from the 3.8 bb branch?
May 05 01:15:22 <[1]segfault> oh its just a custom .config
May 05 01:15:43 <[1]segfault> I strip it down to what I need and enable a few extra options
May 05 01:15:48 <[1]segfault> like cryptoloop support
May 05 01:15:53 <cmicali> so i did that too
May 05 01:15:59 <cmicali> let me get my make command
May 05 01:16:18 <[1]segfault> like i said, it's something im doing wrong, i just have no idea what im doing wrong
May 05 01:16:44 <cmicali> segfault: make -j 8 ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabi- uImage dtbs modules
May 05 01:16:57 <[1]segfault> yup, looks like mine
May 05 01:16:59 <cmicali> then this:
May 05 01:17:02 <cmicali> rm -rf dist
May 05 01:17:02 <cmicali> mkdir dist
May 05 01:17:02 <cmicali> mkdir dist/boot
May 05 01:17:05 <cmicali> make -j 8 ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabi- modules_install INSTALL_MOD_PATH=dist
May 05 01:17:09 <cmicali> cp arch/arm/boot/uImage dist/boot
May 05 01:17:11 <cmicali> cp firmware/*.dtbo dist/lib/firmware
May 05 01:17:15 <cmicali> cp arch/arm/boot/dts/am33*.dtb dist/boot
May 05 01:17:19 <cmicali> and finally
May 05 01:17:19 <cmicali> cd dist
May 05 01:17:19 <cmicali> tar cvzf kernel.tar.gz *
May 05 01:17:26 <cmicali> and then i untar that into / of the BBB
May 05 01:17:34 <cmicali> in a deploy script
May 05 01:17:41 <[1]segfault> makes sense
May 05 01:17:54 <cmicali> and that's it, is working OK for me
May 05 01:18:00 <[1]segfault> im more or less doing all of that except for the cp of the firmware and dtb since i'm doing this all via TFTP
May 05 01:18:17 <[1]segfault> i cp the kernel and dtb to my /tftproot
May 05 01:18:35 <[1]segfault> setenv serverip 192.168.0.5; setenv ipaddr 192.168.0.6; tftp 0x80200000 uImage; tftp 0x80F80000 am335x-boneblack.dtb; bootm 0x80200000 - 0x80F80000
May 05 01:18:42 <[1]segfault> that, should work
May 05 01:18:55 <cmicali> are you sure those addresses are right?
May 05 01:19:02 <[1]segfault> yup, pulled them from printenv
May 05 01:19:14 <cmicali> oh but yeah it boots right
May 05 01:19:16 <cmicali> so they have to be rihgt
May 05 01:19:34 <[1]segfault> yea, the kernel just wiggs out on me when it tries to boot
May 05 01:19:46 <[1]segfault> doesn't dump any info to the console about it's failure to boot
May 05 01:19:56 <[1]segfault> the heartbeat led also doesn't kick on so i know it's dead
May 05 01:20:04 <cmicali> do you have an FTDI cable?
May 05 01:20:05 <Shadyman> CanyonMan: Though powering the Beagle straight from the car along with OBD2 is ubercool :)
May 05 01:20:08 <[1]segfault> yup
May 05 01:20:18 <cmicali> and nothing is coming out of there?
May 05 01:20:22 <[1]segfault> nope
May 05 01:20:26 <cmicali> hm that is nuts
May 05 01:20:32 <CanyonMan> yeah, and it reads the battery voltage and figures out when the engine is running
May 05 01:20:38 <[1]segfault> I have console=ttyO0,115200n8
May 05 01:20:49 <CanyonMan> when the engine goes off for a while it does a linux shutdown then cuts off the power to the bone, basically goes to sleep
May 05 01:20:57 <CanyonMan> when the voltage goes about (engine running) the bone turns back on
May 05 01:20:57 <cmicali> cable on backwards? :)
May 05 01:21:01 <ka6sox> hiya emeb_mac !
May 05 01:21:09 <[1]segfault> cmicali, well i can read the uboot output :P
May 05 01:21:22 <emeb_mac> ka6sox: how's things/
May 05 01:21:25 <emeb_mac> ?
May 05 01:21:27 <[1]segfault> and yes, i've got cable on right lol
May 05 01:21:28 <Shadyman> CanyonMan: Neat. I think a power-sucking OBD2 was on my list of things to do, too :/
May 05 01:21:39 <cmicali> [1]segfault: hm, then I'm out of ideas sorry, thats just about exactly what i'm doing
May 05 01:21:39 <ka6sox> emeb_mac, Plumbing Hell...
May 05 01:21:48 <[1]segfault> cmicali, yea, i dont know what i did to it
May 05 01:21:56 <[1]segfault> im wondering if its a problem specific to TFTPing
May 05 01:22:06 <[1]segfault> something uboot isn't doing
May 05 01:22:13 <ka6sox> emeb_mac, should I add the 7pin straight one too?
May 05 01:22:20 <ka6sox> thats the one I really like
May 05 01:22:35 <ka6sox> I fixed the 20 pin one
May 05 01:22:37 <emeb_mac> ka6sox: what 7-pin?
May 05 01:22:49 <[1]segfault> it'd be awesome to hook up a beaglebone to my ODB2 to collect performance data :D
May 05 01:23:02 <ka6sox> 7 pin .125
May 05 01:23:17 <CanyonMan> woah, i'm watching something on bbc america and I think the guy was from ... what the hell ... is he max headroom??
May 05 01:23:53 <emeb_mac> ka6sox: don't know about that one. I have used the 10-pin mini JTAG in a few places though
May 05 01:23:55 <ka6sox> the straight connector from the TMB you showed me the otherday
May 05 01:24:06 <ka6sox> you showed me a 7 ping
May 05 01:24:17 <emeb_mac> ka6sox: oh - the 6-pin SWD on a 0.1" header
May 05 01:24:28 <emeb_mac> that's mostly for Cortex Mx stuff.
May 05 01:24:40 <emeb_mac> not really general-purpose.
May 05 01:25:06 <ka6sox> 6pin swd
May 05 01:25:07 <ka6sox> ya
May 05 01:25:11 <ka6sox> okay
May 05 01:25:21 <ka6sox> the 10 pinmini maybe?
May 05 01:25:24 <emeb_mac> yeah
May 05 01:25:32 <emeb_mac> that's coming into wider use in JTAG apps
May 05 01:25:33 <ka6sox> is that 2mm?
May 05 01:25:45 <emeb_mac> Ifinkso
May 05 01:26:09 <ka6sox> hokayfine
May 05 01:26:25 <ka6sox> do I have that part in the Lib?
May 05 01:26:38 <ka6sox> lemme looksee
May 05 01:27:32 <emeb_mac> part should be in the libs I sent
May 05 01:27:41 <emeb_mac> it's 0.05"
May 05 01:30:16 <ka6sox> tiny
May 05 01:30:31 <ka6sox> I'm probably going to add the debug sigs too
May 05 01:30:37 <emeb_mac> yah
May 05 01:30:46 <emeb_mac> 2 kinds: unshrouded http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?x=-988&y=-71&lang=en&site=us&KeyWords=609-3729-ND
May 05 01:31:00 <Shadyman> CanyonMan: Then there's also http://www.obdsol.com/stn1170/ ... "While STN1170 ST commands will provide access to SW-CAN and MS-CAN networks, the proprietary GM & Ford codes must be obtained independently." LAME.
May 05 01:31:36 <Shadyman> CanyonMan: Though, the Beagle has a CAN transciever or 3, no?
May 05 01:32:34 <ka6sox> emeb_mac, I'm thinking shrouded
May 05 01:32:49 <emeb_mac> better. looking for P/N now
May 05 01:33:30 <ka6sox> that way the bugs can't see ya coming
May 05 01:34:02 <emeb_mac> here: http://www.digikey.com/scripts/dksearch/dksus.dll?vendor=0&keywords=609-4054-ND
May 05 01:34:48 <CanyonMan> i don't think it has transceivers on it but it does have the can interface
May 05 01:34:58 <CanyonMan> it's DCAN
May 05 01:35:02 <CanyonMan> drivers for it for linux are now stable
May 05 01:37:06 <ka6sox> emeb, thats the ticket!
May 05 01:37:26 <[1]segfault> cmicali, any chance you're willing to share your .config?
May 05 01:40:18 <Shadyman> CanyonMan: Ah, cool.
May 05 01:46:35 * ka6sox adds 10pin micro connector
May 05 01:47:52 <[1]segfault> oh dont tell me this thing wants an XIP kernel
May 05 01:48:15 <[1]segfault> i swear if that's the problem, im gonna beat my head on this desk
May 05 01:49:57 <[1]segfault> f u unstable connection
May 05 01:57:57 <dgv> Trying to build that kernel failed, cmicali. <<No rule to make target `firmware/am335x-pm-firmware.bin'>>
May 05 02:09:44 <ssi> is it possible to get the /sys/kernel/debug/omap_mux files like I've seen people reference in BBW writeups?
May 05 02:09:52 <ssi> mounting debugfs gets me some stuff, but no omap_mux
May 05 02:12:21 <Tbones> I'm having a bit of trouble getting BBB to 'see' the uSD card when booting/running from eMMC.  No /dev/sdX devices, nor any mention of the SD card detection in dmesg
May 05 02:12:39 <Tbones> it's like the uSD is disabled when eMMC is in use...
May 05 02:13:10 <Tbones> updating kernel to 3.8.11 now, will see if that helps
May 05 02:14:40 <dgv> Tbones - i saw the same with the stock kernel
May 05 02:16:04 <Tbones> dgv - were you able to fix it by rebuilding kernel w/ additional options/config changes?
May 05 02:17:27 <Tbones> per the schematics, mmc0 controller should be the one connected to uSD slot
May 05 02:17:38 <Tbones> eMMC is on mmc1 controller
May 05 02:18:12 <dgv> ha. Still trying to make a working kernel for this damn board. first time ever first board ever to keep me stumped this long
May 05 02:18:32 <dgv> booting linux on a 8-bit AVR was easier than this and took less time
May 05 02:19:25 <ssi> 3.8?
May 05 02:19:32 <ssi> i didn't have that much trouble getting a 3.8 kernel that'd boot
May 05 02:19:49 <dgv> where did you get the source and how did you build it and wat do you tell uboot to boot it?
May 05 02:20:12 <dgv> I got pm firmware here: http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/AM335x-PSP_04.06.00.07_Release_Notes
May 05 02:20:14 <dgv> kernel i got here:L
May 05 02:20:26 <dgv> https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel/tree/3.8
May 05 02:20:37 <ssi> git://github.com/RobertCNelson/linux-dev.git
May 05 02:20:41 <ssi> refs/heads/am33x-v3.8
May 05 02:20:42 <dgv> in uboot i use fatload to load kernel, ramdisk and dtb file
May 05 02:20:45 <ssi> has a script
May 05 02:20:51 <ssi> the result works fine
May 05 02:20:53 <dgv> looks like the same script i used :)
May 05 02:20:58 <ssi> possibly
May 05 02:21:00 <dgv> how do you load it under uboot?
May 05 02:21:15 <dgv> yup - same script
May 05 02:21:26 <ssi> I took an image that was for BBW, and I dropped the kernel in /boot on the ext partition
May 05 02:21:30 <ssi> and untarred the modules on the fs as well
May 05 02:21:32 <ssi> and it Just Worked
May 05 02:21:39 <dgv> what the?
May 05 02:21:53 <dgv> what about the dtb file and all that fun?
May 05 02:22:02 <ssi> oh the dtb file went in /boot as well
May 05 02:22:18 <dgv> and what does your uEnv.txt look like on fat partition?
May 05 02:23:37 <ssi> mmcroot=/dev/mmcblk0p2 ro
May 05 02:23:38 <ssi> mmcrootfstype=ext4 rootwait fixrtc
May 05 02:24:33 <dgv> just that?
May 05 02:24:41 <ssi> yep
May 05 02:25:11 <dgv> now that is just strange.
May 05 02:25:23 <ssi> sorry!
May 05 02:25:34 <dgv> can you bychance shoot me over a copy of your kernel. i want to try it here and see if my uboot is guilty or kernel i built
May 05 02:25:40 <dgv> dmitrygr@gmail
May 05 02:25:59 <ssi> sure
May 05 02:27:02 <dgv> thanks
May 05 02:27:06 <ssi> on its way
May 05 02:32:47 <MassMe> So i just picked up bb black. I am looking to replace to windows embedded. If I replace the MLO and add the nesc files to the storage will and something goes wrong.. will I be able to load the storage device via usb again or is linux emulating that or something?
May 05 02:33:09 <dgv> stick to using SD cards till it works :)
May 05 02:33:30 <MassMe> ok so I can bypass the onboard?
May 05 02:33:40 <dgv> ssi: didn't get email. did it go out ok to dmitrygr@gmail.com ?
May 05 02:33:59 <dgv> MassMe - the board will boot from a properly cormatted SD card by default if one is present
May 05 02:34:43 <ssi> hm lemme try again
May 05 02:35:22 <dgv> just got one now
May 05 02:35:24 <dgv> thanks
May 05 02:35:51 <MassMe> I will give that a shot, by any chance do you know if there is an adeneo image avail? I could have sworn I saw the black on their site a few days ago.
May 05 02:37:04 <dgv> well, fuck, ssi. Your kernel boots just fine.
May 05 02:37:25 <ssi> hah
May 05 02:37:31 <dgv> so next question is if i can have a copy of your config, and where do I seend your beer
May 05 02:37:52 <ssi> the kernel config?
May 05 02:37:55 <dgv> yup
May 05 02:38:01 <dgv> ".config" file from kernel build tree
May 05 02:38:18 <ssi> honestly it's all defaults
May 05 02:38:20 <ssi> but I'll send it
May 05 02:38:32 <dgv> the script left me with "configs" folder which has beaglebone
May 05 02:38:35 <dgv> but not beaglebone black
May 05 02:38:47 <ssi> maybe you should try the RCN tree
May 05 02:39:27 <dgv> RCN?
May 05 02:39:46 <mrpackethead> ding ding ding
May 05 02:40:02 <ssi> https://github.com/RobertCNelson/linux-dev
May 05 02:40:07 <ssi> it may be the same script as what you were using
May 05 02:40:13 <ssi> but it obviously doesn't do the same thing :)
May 05 02:40:42 <dgv> ha. can't hurt to try. i'll do that now. thanks.      (did you ever get PVR working, or try to)
May 05 02:40:49 <ssi> PVR?
May 05 02:41:56 <dgv> the graphics subsystem on this chip
May 05 02:42:02 <ssi> oh, no
May 05 02:42:05 <ssi> not really my focus
May 05 02:42:08 <ssi> I'm working on machine control
May 05 02:42:14 <dgv> to get accelerated graphics you need powervr modules and userspace app
May 05 02:42:15 <ssi> trying to get the damn gpios to behave and dance for me :)
May 05 02:42:37 <dgv> why not just throw together a simple kernel module and bang the proper addresses?
May 05 02:42:46 <ssi> that's what I'm doing
May 05 02:42:48 <dgv> (i am assuming you tried sysfs-gpio and found it to not work well enough or at all)
May 05 02:43:04 <ssi> sysfs works for the userleds
May 05 02:43:15 <Tbones> FWIW - 3.8.11 kernel boots/works fine, but still can't see the uSD slot (mmc0), only eMMC (mmc1)
May 05 02:43:16 <ssi> once I built a kernel with the gpio_led stuff modular
May 05 02:43:29 <ssi> but I'm not getting any result on other gpios via sysfs
May 05 02:43:39 <ssi> not sure if it's my scope or if I'm crazy or if it's pinmux or what
May 05 02:44:01 <dgv> pinmux *should* be handled by a proper kernel driver for sysfs-gpio
May 05 02:44:03 <ssi> I can also bitbang the userled gpios by mmap'ing /dev/mem and banging the relevant addresses
May 05 02:44:54 <ssi> but even using sysfs, configuring gpio1_28 (P9 pin 12) as an output and writing 1 to value, I get no measurable output on scope
May 05 02:46:41 <ssi> I'm trying to figure out how to get /sys/kernel/debug/omap_mux to show up
May 05 02:49:21 <dgv> sorry, no idea. i worked with sitara (for work) about 7 months ago and almost all the code seems to have changed.
May 05 02:58:08 <[1]segfault> okay, anyone know what I'm doing wrong here? I'm providing a FDT but the kernel seems to be ignoring it
May 05 02:58:09 <[1]segfault> http://paste.kill-9.me/view/5f312c01
May 05 02:58:26 <router> Anyone can help me boot the kernel from SD card, 'Wrong Image Format for bootm command'
May 05 02:58:45 <[1]segfault> means the image isn't loaded into memory AFAIK
May 05 02:58:58 <[1]segfault> so it either a) can't be found or b) can't be loaded
May 05 02:59:29 <router> reading uImage
May 05 02:59:29 <router> 3078600 bytes read
May 05 02:59:49 <[1]segfault> what address are you reading it into?
May 05 02:59:52 <router> the kernel was read
May 05 02:59:57 <router> i am using xm REV C
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