**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun May 05 02:59:58 2013 May 05 03:00:05 82000000 May 05 03:00:27 <[1]segfault> ah, try 0x80200000 May 05 03:00:37 i am trying to run kernal from DVSDK 4.0.3 May 05 03:02:17 so yeah, i'm just being stupid May 05 03:02:18 bootm excepts a u-boot image. that meassage tells you that what you gave it was not a uboot image May 05 03:02:22 gpios work fine from sysfs May 05 03:02:29 what was wrong, ssi? May 05 03:02:42 I was probing P8 when I thought I was probing P9 May 05 03:02:58 glad to hear all works well. good luck on you rproject May 05 03:03:10 thanks May 05 03:03:35 and my program that pokes memory works too May 05 03:03:58 i'm trying the scripts in that repo and branch you pointed me to May 05 03:04:03 branch calls itself May 05 03:04:09 3.8 May 05 03:04:20 the kernel you sent me was "3.8.10+" May 05 03:04:25 you built that using that script? May 05 03:04:26 yeah May 05 03:04:29 yep May 05 03:04:31 sweet! May 05 03:04:38 hope it works for me too. May 05 03:04:55 I hope so too May 05 03:05:11 one complaint I have is, with that script, it seems to do a full clean rebuild every time May 05 03:05:15 oh also one other thing you should do May 05 03:05:26 exit the makefile; it only makes zImage May 05 03:05:29 change it to uImage May 05 03:05:33 no prob May 05 03:05:35 not sure why that was that way May 05 03:05:36 i can run mkimage myself :) May 05 03:05:49 well... hopefully it won't force a full rebuild when you do May 05 03:05:51 I had bad luck with it May 05 03:06:09 this whole move to dfbs from board files in kernel infuriates me. i understand the nice part of it - less code. but the part where it is a huge PITA to use still is anoying May 05 03:06:21 folks'll get used to it May 05 03:06:34 soes that script get the pm firmware for you May 05 03:06:41 <[1]segfault> dgv, yea it's broken my shit May 05 03:06:42 or do you still need to download and supply it yourself May 05 03:06:46 do you remmeebr bychance? May 05 03:06:55 trust me, it was irking me too because i need an RT kernel, and BBB needs 3.8 for the dtb, but there's no xenomai for 3.8 May 05 03:07:01 um yea it builds the firmware feor you May 05 03:07:07 <[1]segfault> this whole DTB crap is a bunch of BS. May 05 03:07:11 sweet. then this is exactly what i need May 05 03:07:16 <[1]segfault> I can see the reason for it but it's so annoying May 05 03:07:17 yeah it should help a lot :) May 05 03:07:49 <[1]segfault> I don't understand what I'm doing wrong... im stuck May 05 03:07:57 <[1]segfault> I give the kernel the dtb May 05 03:08:06 <[1]segfault> but it's like herpa derp non-supported machine id May 05 03:08:12 <[1]segfault> completely ignoring the fact that i gave it a dtb May 05 03:08:17 segfault, what are you doing in uboot May 05 03:08:20 can you try the commands by hand May 05 03:08:23 and see what happens? May 05 03:08:28 <[1]segfault> setenv serverip 192.168.0.5; setenv ipaddr 192.168.0.6; tftp ${kloadaddr} uImage; tftp ${fdtaddr} ${fdtfile}; bootm ${kloadaddr} - ${fdtaddr} May 05 03:08:38 segfault, the kernel you build has some machineids hardcoded into it in board.c I think May 05 03:08:52 machine ids are ingored for DTBs and set to 0xffffffff May 05 03:09:02 the message you see means kernel never got your dtb May 05 03:09:03 <[1]segfault> here's the output May 05 03:09:04 <[1]segfault> http://paste.kill-9.me/view/c3e33478 May 05 03:09:11 <[1]segfault> yea, i dont understand why it's not getting the dtb May 05 03:09:45 are you using a uboot recent enough to understand how to pass DTB to the kernel in the "new " way May 05 03:09:48 (there is also an old way) May 05 03:09:52 <[1]segfault> yup May 05 03:09:58 <[1]segfault> its 2013.04 release May 05 03:10:09 my suggestion (short o finstrumenting kernel source code) is to enable kernel option to look for DTB after kernel May 05 03:10:15 then concatenate the kernel with DTB using cat May 05 03:10:18 <[1]segfault> done it May 05 03:10:20 (see in-menuconfig help for that option) May 05 03:10:21 <[1]segfault> it hangs May 05 03:10:32 you concat first then mkimage right? May 05 03:10:36 <[1]segfault> yup May 05 03:10:42 <[1]segfault> when I try that method it hangs at Uncompressing Linux... done, booting the kernel. May 05 03:10:49 <[1]segfault> the heartbeat led doesn't kick on May 05 03:10:52 <[1]segfault> so it's obviously dead May 05 03:11:09 strange May 05 03:11:13 <[1]segfault> it'll boot the angstrom kernel with no problem May 05 03:11:17 <[1]segfault> so the board is good May 05 03:11:28 <[1]segfault> and the angstrom kernel i have is 3.8.11 and im using 3.8.11 May 05 03:11:36 the angstron kernel May 05 03:11:37 you boot May 05 03:11:40 using the same exact procedure? May 05 03:11:53 <[1]segfault> yes, but not via tftp May 05 03:12:08 try using same procedure exactly May 05 03:12:14 just to separet procedure from kernel May 05 03:12:17 *separate May 05 03:12:19 <[1]segfault> okay May 05 03:12:22 see which is failing you May 05 03:12:43 why beagleboard-xm OS don't reach 1GHz frequency? May 05 03:16:10 ssi, did you ever send me your kconfig, bychance? i'd love to have a known good copy here after you head out since your kernel worked May 05 03:22:11 I'm trying to connect a BeagleBone to my ubuntu desktop. When I plug in the USB, I get no tty, no mounted disk device. What should I try next ?? May 05 03:22:28 Using Xubuntu 12.04, BeagleBone 'white' A5 May 05 03:24:48 lsusb doesn't see the BeagleBone May 05 03:24:55 nor does dmesg... May 05 03:25:07 <[1]segfault> random: holy shit i'm getting 20MB/s over my wireless N.. I've never gotten speeds that fast May 05 03:25:13 plugged in a ThumbDrive and all works fine May 05 03:28:15 andyl, is usb providing enoguh power, did boarD LIGHT UP? May 05 03:29:00 dgv: sent May 05 03:29:23 ssi, thanks May 05 03:29:52 @dvg - yes - board is running - I can ssh to the board over ethernet May 05 03:31:32 if you can ssh in, do lsmod May 05 03:31:36 see what modules are loaded May 05 03:31:58 the "appearing on usb" is handled by usb gadget modules. there are a few: ethernet, storage, etc May 05 03:32:01 see if any are loaded May 05 03:32:32 @dgv - ok run lsmod on my ubuntu desktop or on my beaglebone ? May 05 03:33:23 on the beaglebone, lsmod shows 'ipv6' and 'g_mass_storage' May 05 03:33:58 on the ubuntu desktop lsmod shows 65 items... May 05 03:34:00 on the bone May 05 03:34:18 <[1]segfault> wait a second May 05 03:34:23 <[1]segfault> i feel like im missing a kernel patch May 05 03:34:26 k on the bone I show two items - ipv6 and g_mass_storage May 05 03:34:29 <[1]segfault> to fix the memory mapping issues May 05 03:34:30 g_file_storage May 05 03:34:38 ok so it should appear then May 05 03:34:54 cable ok? did you mess with pinmuxes? May 05 03:35:17 cable should be fine - I haven't messed with pinmuxes May 05 03:35:32 (but I will try another cable now just to be sure) May 05 03:38:05 OMG - seeing something different with another cable - stand by... May 05 03:38:47 and... its working - damn - looks like the cable was the problem May 05 03:39:10 @dgv - THANKS - never would have suspected the problem could have been the cable... May 05 03:40:21 <[1]segfault> sigh, i need a drink May 05 03:43:52 ok, I've googled and am lost... where the heck is the directory that has the default web server? /var/www doesn't exist May 05 03:44:01 on the beaglebone black May 05 03:44:29 I'm trying to code a simple default web site to control my motors on my cape. May 05 03:45:08 :) May 05 03:45:40 andyl, when you've run out of things to suspect, start questioning your basic assumption. When out of those, question the axioms May 05 03:46:15 <[1]segfault> that's it, im done. May 05 03:46:19 <[1]segfault> i give up on the blacks. May 05 03:46:35 <[1]segfault> i can get kernels to boot out the ying yang on the standard beaglebone May 05 03:46:40 <[1]segfault> but the beaglebone black can suck it. May 05 03:46:50 [1]segfault: I'm not upgrading my kernels/linux on my blacks... I just want them to work! May 05 03:47:09 <[1]segfault> Unfortunately my 3.2 kernel from the standard beaglebone can't boot on a beaglebone black May 05 03:47:13 I'll wait till the dust settles.. May 05 03:47:27 <[1]segfault> the problem is the damn DTB May 05 03:47:34 <[1]segfault> FDT May 05 03:47:50 <[1]segfault> if i give it to it from uboot, it ignores it May 05 03:48:11 <[1]segfault> if i append it to the kernel it gives me : Uncompressing Linux... done, booting the kernel. May 05 03:48:12 <[1]segfault> and dies May 05 03:48:29 <[1]segfault> im usually good at figuring this stuff out May 05 03:48:37 <[1]segfault> but i've been fighting with it for 3 1/2 days now May 05 03:48:52 <[1]segfault> err 2 1/2 May 05 03:48:55 ouch May 05 03:49:08 <[1]segfault> I've tried 3 different methods of compiling a kernel May 05 03:49:25 <[1]segfault> I've tried the beaglebone kernel repo.. I've tried the RobertCNelson git linux-dev method May 05 03:49:29 <[1]segfault> I've tried the gentoo method May 05 03:50:14 yeah, I'm definitely waiting until the dust settles on this one... May 05 03:50:28 <[1]segfault> i can build a kernel without making any .config changes and i still cant get em to boot May 05 03:50:35 <[1]segfault> yet i can boot the one for angstrom May 05 03:50:41 <[1]segfault> i have no idea why that works and mine doesnt May 05 03:56:15 Just unboxed my new BeagleBone Black :-) May 05 03:56:39 robtow: don't upgrade it!!! ;) May 05 03:56:44 lol May 05 03:57:00 ptan... yeah, I've been seeing some stuff about that todfay. May 05 03:57:05 <[1]segfault> im half tempted to take mine to the gun range May 05 03:57:08 <[1]segfault> use it as a target May 05 03:57:18 <[1]segfault> at 500 yards should be challenging May 05 03:57:30 And, yes, I *do* want to compile my own distro from source for it, like I have for the Beagleboard B. May 05 03:57:43 <[1]segfault> robtow, good luck with that :D May 05 03:57:50 <[1]segfault> im trying to do the same thing, not working so wel May 05 03:58:09 segfault... tyhere is an existance proof in that it comes with a bootable distro! May 05 03:58:21 <[1]segfault> using an old kernel :( May 05 03:58:27 <[1]segfault> 3.8.3 i think May 05 03:58:28 segfault - what's a quick synopsis of your woes? May 05 03:58:43 <[1]segfault> http://paste.kill-9.me/view/c3e33478 May 05 03:58:53 <[1]segfault> it ignores my DTB May 05 03:59:06 I'm not going to update onboard, but would like to try to boot off the card, from something I build. May 05 03:59:19 <[1]segfault> if i append the DTB it hangs http://paste.kill-9.me/view/e4b727e2 May 05 03:59:45 grrrrr... opkg install sockstat == "Unknown package 'sockstat' May 05 03:59:51 segfault - it dies on uncompresswing linux? May 05 04:00:14 (still trying to find some way of locating the default http: directory) May 05 04:00:47 hi May 05 04:01:12 <[1]segfault> it finishes uncompressing.... my stupid cursor didn't copy correctly May 05 04:01:14 <[1]segfault> http://paste.kill-9.me/view/7b7db699 May 05 04:01:32 <[1]segfault> and that's where it hangs May 05 04:01:35 <[1]segfault> no heartbeat led May 05 04:01:48 <[1]segfault> it's not a console= issue May 05 04:01:58 <[1]segfault> which is what i usually expect when it dies there May 05 04:02:03 anyone know how i can get my wifi dongle working on my beaglebone black? May 05 04:02:15 <[1]segfault> heh you said dongle May 05 04:02:38 lol May 05 04:02:58 <[1]segfault> sorry i've had a few beers out of frustration May 05 04:03:21 <[1]segfault> so now, im going back to basics and doing a default build without customizing the kernel May 05 04:03:30 trace_: depends on what kind of wifi chipset it uses. May 05 04:03:35 <[1]segfault> and if that doesn't boot, i swear to god its an issue with DTB, uboot, and TFTP May 05 04:06:58 i got it off adafruit...works fine on my raspberry pi but cant get to work on my BBB... its RTl8192cu Chipset May 05 04:07:45 <[1]segfault> HAH May 05 04:07:46 <[1]segfault> I KNEW IT! May 05 04:07:48 <[1]segfault> HAHAHAHAHA May 05 04:07:52 <[1]segfault> it is a TFTP issue May 05 04:07:54 <[1]segfault> F U UBOOT May 05 04:08:06 ::P May 05 04:08:28 trace_: I've got an RTL8192 working on an old Beagleboard. May 05 04:08:29 <[1]segfault> or.. May 05 04:08:57 trick is you need the driver in the kernel and the firmware binary in the right place to load up at boot time. May 05 04:10:16 i figure it would work fine with another linux distro...not so sure about this distro that come on it.... just fired it up a couple of hours ago May 05 04:11:01 <[1]segfault> crap May 05 04:11:03 <[1]segfault> i was wrong. May 05 04:11:08 <[1]segfault> oh May 05 04:11:10 <[1]segfault> FFS May 05 04:11:11 <[1]segfault> seriously!? May 05 04:11:32 <[1]segfault> im almost sure that i'm a complete retard. May 05 04:12:39 ssi, with that tool i got a working kernel May 05 04:12:41 finally May 05 04:12:42 :) May 05 04:12:47 now on to PVR May 05 04:12:50 dgv: spectacular :) May 05 04:15:41 <[1]segfault> im gonna go over into that corner and just bang my head against the wall till i pass out May 05 04:15:47 <[1]segfault> im a retard. May 05 04:16:09 be happy you know what's wrong, segfault :) May 05 04:16:22 <[1]segfault> yeaaa.... May 05 04:16:26 <[1]segfault> i just wasted 2 days May 05 04:17:02 segfault - what's that????? You tried to do a network boot? May 05 04:17:27 what was the problem? May 05 04:18:44 <[1]segfault> well, i trashed the old .config, started fresh and now it works May 05 04:18:53 <[1]segfault> plus i think i did something stupid May 05 04:19:00 <[1]segfault> and didn't use console=ttyO0 May 05 04:19:12 FYI if people are looking, found the default http: directory at /usr/share/bone101 May 05 04:19:16 <[1]segfault> i had it in the kernel bootargs line May 05 04:19:31 <[1]segfault> but i think something was overriding it May 05 04:19:35 I think I'll call it a night and go play halo 4 and shoot a few people now... May 05 04:19:37 <[1]segfault> i know about 10 different things it could be May 05 04:20:42 <[1]segfault> figured it out. May 05 04:20:47 <[1]segfault> it's using a built in initramfs May 05 04:21:08 <[1]segfault> when using a built in initramfs in the kernel it ignores the fdt May 05 04:21:19 <[1]segfault> that's the only thing i changed May 05 04:21:33 <[1]segfault> assbag of a system. May 05 04:21:43 Anyone have any luck with the PRU on the BBBlack May 05 04:23:04 <[1]segfault> BOOM May 05 04:23:07 <[1]segfault> yup, confirmed May 05 04:23:26 <[1]segfault> if i include an initramfs in the kernel May 05 04:23:32 <[1]segfault> it ignores the FDT May 05 04:23:37 <[1]segfault> that uboot passses to it May 05 04:23:53 * [1]segfault flips the bird to linux May 05 04:23:58 <[1]segfault> i knew it had to be linux and not me. May 05 04:24:26 * [1]segfault dances May 05 04:24:31 <[1]segfault> here's the problem. May 05 04:24:36 <[1]segfault> I HAVE to include an initramfs May 05 04:25:05 <[1]segfault> i guess i could build it and use it as an initrd instead May 05 04:25:08 <[1]segfault> instead of building it in May 05 04:26:59 so if I insert sd card on black it will boot off if it? Or it will update onbaord? I want to just boot of sdcard. I have mlo and eboot and nk.bin on it May 05 04:30:01 MassMe can you get it to update the onboard emmc? May 05 04:30:32 MassMe I can only boot the other images from the card and can not get them to write unto the board May 05 04:31:26 mw - dgv told me earlier to boot from sdcard. kinda new to beagleboard May 05 04:32:08 When I put an SD card in and power it up, it boots straight of the SD. May 05 04:32:21 off* May 05 04:33:40 Does that work for you? May 05 04:33:49 im shooting for windows embed. i have the image for the white, and was hoping to see if it will work for the black May 05 04:34:02 i plopped in mlo, eboot, and nk May 05 04:34:15 all lights went blue, nothing displays May 05 04:34:45 The image for Ubuntu- bone white and Ubuntu- bone black are different, May 05 04:35:33 My guess would be you need a new image May 05 04:35:39 you think maybe i can use the mlo that the black comes with to use as windows boot May 05 04:38:35 I don't know :/ May 05 04:39:24 hehe, ok, apreaciate the info. i'll report back, thanks! May 05 04:39:47 <[1]segfault> oh hell yes. May 05 04:40:10 Sorry. Yea please do, I could use all the info I can get. May 05 04:40:11 <[1]segfault> using an initrd instead of a built in initramfs works B-E-A-UTIFLY May 05 04:44:50 MH - ohh and btw, according to doc. to update onboard it says to hold down boot before power on for bone black May 05 04:45:43 MassMe yea I don't understand that part. I've done it and waited several hours and it never transfered the image over. May 05 04:46:05 MassMe Am I supposed to hold that button for all 45 minutes?! May 05 04:46:35 MassMe Maybe I didn't have the right image. May 05 04:46:36 i just tried using provide mlo, im not sure if it is a boot loop or what. screen flashes every few sec May 05 04:46:43 left 3 led are on May 05 04:47:45 MassMe How exactly do you use the mlo. That is new to me? May 05 04:48:07 segfault - how about writing this up somewhere? May 05 04:48:09 not sure, think we're both in the same boat buddy May 05 04:48:15 lets swap notes May 05 04:48:50 I'd appreciate it :-) May 05 04:49:37 sounds good to me May 05 04:50:49 is there a pm or something? May 05 04:51:30 For the IRC? Not to my knowledge. May 05 04:51:59 Has anyone gotten PyBBIO to work on a BBB? May 05 05:22:02 * mranostay scrolls up May 05 05:44:15 anyone have any luck writing new images unto their BBB May 05 05:44:23 into the eMMC, you mean? May 05 05:44:45 yes, that is what I mean. May 05 05:44:46 I haven't actually bothered writing to the eMMC, but the process is rather simple May 05 05:44:52 or, so it seems May 05 05:45:00 the angstrom update does it successfully May 05 05:45:12 if you grab the 4/13 image you can get the code that the update uses May 05 05:45:14 other than that, I tried to do it from a 4g image and was shocked to find that it filled the device :) May 05 05:45:18 one would have you think, I haven't tried it with angstrom but other distros May 05 05:45:42 grab the image, unzip it, mount the main partition from the image as a loopback device, look in ./build in the image's rootdir May 05 05:46:18 Is this only for the angstrom distribution? May 05 05:46:29 I wrote a little bit on doing this today http://github.jfet.org/BBKNotes2.html (scroll down to "updating the eMMC from Debian (but not really)" May 05 05:46:44 morning MH May 05 05:46:57 well it should work for anything; what I'm suggesting is that you can follow exactly the procedure that the update uses May 05 05:47:06 ka6sox darn morning already May 05 05:47:18 darn? May 05 05:47:26 oh! May 05 05:47:32 darn, morning already? May 05 05:48:04 morning? people sleep? May 05 05:48:15 ka6sox early hours of the morning here. May 05 05:48:50 basically the procedure is: partition the eMMC w/ a FAT partition and an ext4 partition, put u-boot on the FAT partition, then untar the latest distribution onto the ext4 partition. So it's a pretty general-purpose procedure, assuming you have a system already tarred up May 05 05:49:19 otherwise, you could make yourself a USB flash drive or microSD card with an installer and do the procedure that way May 05 05:49:34 e.g., http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardDebian May 05 05:50:13 but you'll have to be careful to get the partition setup correct for u-boot; I'm pretty sure the first partition needs to be marked bootable in the partition table, for example May 05 05:50:30 ah yes I have been using http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu to try and make a mircoSD card that would flash the emmc yet no luck May 05 05:50:37 sorry I can't provide more specific guidance; I haven't actually done it, I've only looked into it and then decided not to May 05 05:51:05 I should go back to the angstrom distro for a while and play with it, thanks for the advice May 05 05:51:17 the eMMC should show up as mmcblk1 when you boot from the microSD card (the microSD will be mmcblk0) May 05 05:51:49 no prob May 05 05:52:23 also I'm not sure if the Ubuntu page has an image for installing onto the microSD card, but I've been booting from microSD with debian and keeping the internal storage untouched so I have a fallback if I screw something up May 05 05:53:32 is there enough room on the 2GB eMMC for the image? May 05 05:53:32 anyone have any experience using the PRUs on the 'bone white? May 05 05:53:41 That was my first though too :). i didn't check the drives earlier.. May 05 05:53:49 kwantam yes i have May 05 05:53:53 kwantam, a bit, but I'm in the middle of a design right now...sorry May 05 05:54:14 does uio_pruss actually work reliably on the 'bone white with the latest Angstrom distro? May 05 05:54:23 or maybe a better question, was this with 3.8 or with like 3.2 or something? May 05 05:54:34 because at least under 3.8 uio_pruss is flaky as heck May 05 05:54:42 I used the PRUSS on ubuntu 12.04 with no problems May 05 05:54:49 how is it flaky? May 05 05:55:07 to actually get the pruss driver to work you have to kind of abuse the capeloader May 05 05:55:32 Hey Kwantam. Do you have any experience with running other distros on beagle bone blacks? May 05 05:55:43 like, modprobe uio_pruss doesn't actually result in successfully loading the uio stuff, and /sys/class/uio remains empty May 05 05:56:12 then if you kind of install and uninstall it a couple times and ping the capeloader by making it load some rather vanilla setups, it works fine May 05 05:56:44 dude on the Beagleboard google group figured out a procedure that's reliable earlier today, but it's convoluted May 05 05:57:00 do you get any error messages from the process or is it just silent May 05 05:57:02 sure it's scriptable and apparently repeatable but annoying May 05 05:57:12 insmod silently does nothing May 05 05:57:21 Noobie what distro are you looking for May 05 05:57:23 I mean, the module is loaded, but nothing in dmesg and no actually uio May 05 05:57:30 Noobie, yes, debian May 05 05:57:36 this is why we want to do a firmware() loader implementation May 05 05:57:44 ka6sox makes sense May 05 05:57:48 using the kernel's built in function. May 05 05:57:57 I'm trying to get Arch Linux running. I've made SD card images for the raspberry pi, and now I'm testing out the beagle board black. May 05 05:58:30 Noobie, it should be relatively straightforward to do it in the same way May 05 05:58:44 So far I've made the update SD card image following the standard beagle board procedures for updating the default OS and that worked. May 05 05:58:48 the script that accompanies the debian image builder works well May 05 05:59:24 Noobie : http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardDebian#Demo_Image have a look at the way that image building process works May 05 05:59:39 you should be able to build an arch image in largely the same way May 05 06:00:05 ka6sox on the other hand the firmware loader isn't enough in itself is it? May 05 06:00:38 Because it is all new hardware and micro SD cards, I'm not 100% certain that everything is compatible. I'm writing a pre-made ubuntu image to an SD card now that I used for updating the original firmware. May 05 06:00:38 if you only had the firmware loader functionality you'd still have to do some ugly memmap hacks to actually run the PRU code May 05 06:01:12 or maybe I'm mistaken. That happens a lot :) May 05 06:02:18 speaking of the PRU what is the current status of using the PRU on the black? has anyone done it yet? May 05 06:02:20 Noobie I documented the install process I used http://github.jfet.org/BBKNotes1.html May 05 06:02:26 MH I am able to use it May 05 06:02:48 it's just an ugly hack to get it working; see https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/beagleboard/gqCjxh4uZi0 May 05 06:02:49 Cheers Kwantam. I'll give the debian a go after my current image is written. My card reader is very slow. May 05 06:02:55 kwantam awesome, did you run any troubles going from the white to black May 05 06:03:01 I've never used a white May 05 06:03:15 black is my first experience with the AM33xx May 05 06:03:19 kwantam how did you get the PRU running? May 05 06:03:27 I'll be happy to see it running any other OS so that I know I've got working/compatible SD cards etc. May 05 06:03:29 MH http://github.jfet.org/BBKNotes2.html May 05 06:03:44 most of the way down the page I discuss it May 05 06:03:57 actually I start by discussing that, then get distracted by something else, then go back to it May 05 06:04:00 Cheers MH. May 05 06:04:10 but by the end of the page you should have it working May 05 06:04:23 also verified that the solution works with the Angstrom 4/13 image with 3.8.6 May 05 06:04:34 (i.e., the most recent Angstrom image for the BBK) May 05 06:04:58 awesome May 05 06:05:08 but I warn you it's kind of ugly ... May 05 06:05:19 I mean, it's a simple shell script May 05 06:05:22 but it feels gross May 05 06:05:28 "do these random things and then magically stuff works" May 05 06:05:31 ew May 05 06:05:57 at some point it'll maybe annoy me enough that I'll investigate exactly what's going on, but for now I'm going to move on May 05 06:06:30 also I've noticed some weirdness with USB (host; gadgets work fine), at least on the Debian image. If you boot with a USB device it works, but if you unplug and replug it does not May 05 06:07:34 haven't dug into that yet because I'm not really using my boards that way, but I might eventually have to loop around and figure out what's up; maybe just kernel wonkiness, but I don't have a cross build setup going yet and I don't want to distract myself from my near-term goals fixing stuff I don't really need. May 05 06:08:56 the only other wart I've noticed with the BBK is that the HDMI output is kind of ugly and jumpy. I read something somewhere about the LCD outputs being kind of noisy and the a5a board rev having some extra caps to try and make it better, but it doesn't seem to be completely fixed. May 05 06:09:31 what kind of cable and display is it using May 05 06:09:47 6 meter micro to hdmi into my tv at the moment May 05 06:09:52 kwantam, this sus up the problems I've had with the pru on the black. I'll se what i can do with it. May 05 06:09:55 I only tried it once, very briefly May 05 06:09:56 (would love to hear of display&cable combos that are known-good) May 05 06:10:03 6 meters ?? or feet. May 05 06:10:07 meter May 05 06:10:08 sorry May 05 06:10:09 mistype May 05 06:10:11 3 meter May 05 06:10:19 still a modestly long cable May 05 06:10:22 yes May 05 06:10:28 it's entirely possible it's something else causing the issue May 05 06:10:38 MH the A4 (which I have) does not have PRUs in it... May 05 06:10:49 the world is analog... try another cable or TV May 05 06:11:05 ka6sox: it has the AM333x rather than the 335x, or something like that? May 05 06:11:24 23352 May 05 06:11:26 grrr May 05 06:11:28 rbarris, yeah, that was going to be my approach, fix my own issues before blaming someone else :) May 05 06:11:29 3352 May 05 06:11:42 ah, 3352 rather than the 3358? May 05 06:11:42 i dont have mine cabled up yet so i am just guessing May 05 06:11:57 hrm May 05 06:12:11 apparently someone got the bondout wrong on some pre-production parts :) May 05 06:12:28 ka6sox I hava anA5 and A5A I am working with May 05 06:12:40 with the right combination of acids and a wire bonder maybe you can fix the glitch... tee hee May 05 06:12:53 so you would be able to do this. May 05 06:13:26 A5A* .. May 05 06:14:41 do this? as in wire bonder and acids May 05 06:15:12 I don't think we have our wire bonder any more May 05 06:15:21 anyway it was in california and I'm in texas so that won't fly May 05 06:15:41 but certainly I could get someone to decap one if I asked real nice. Far less than half the battle, though. May 05 06:20:58 dang, the Sitara is apparently in 45nm cmos. That's pretty serious. May 05 06:21:34 I guess if you want to do 1ghz at this kind of power level, that's where you're at! May 05 06:22:12 I doubt you can get a chip decapped and re-wired for less than $45 :) May 05 06:22:26 <[1]segfault> hey robtow May 05 06:22:40 rbarris extremely true :) May 05 06:22:40 <[1]segfault> remember the issue i was having earlier? I think it has to do more with the kernel's size May 05 06:23:10 <_av500_> size matters May 05 06:30:56 Got my BBB yesterday. Went and did an update and now will not boot. Followed instructions to load image on SD card (BBB-eMMC-flasher-2013.04.13-DDR3-400MHz) and am trying to boot from card. Press the boot switch as I plug in power cord. No lights come on except power. Any hints what I may be doing wrong? May 05 06:32:08 what is the result when you pull the SD out? May 05 06:32:38 Nothing different, just power light on. May 05 06:32:48 do you have a serial cable? May 05 06:33:02 Unfortunately no. May 05 06:33:40 can you boot it all now? May 05 06:33:48 it at all now? May 05 06:34:13 No, when I plug in the power nothing happens except the power light turns on. May 05 06:34:46 what happened during the update itself? May 05 06:35:49 It completed with some errors which I sorta ignored as things seemed to work fine. I believe they are the same errors as I have seen online about version errors. May 05 06:36:17 When I reboot nothing happens. May 05 06:36:32 how did you prepare the SD-card? May 05 06:37:08 I used win32diskimager. May 05 06:37:44 do you have a USB flash drive? You could write the flash image to the drive and attempt to boot from that. In principle, upon failing to find a microSD card when booting with the switch depressed, it should attempt to boot from USB and UART before falling back to the eMMC May 05 06:38:44 tony__: do you have a linux pc available? May 05 06:38:54 Yes I do. I would just prepare it the same way as SD card? How long should I have to hold the boot switch when trying this? May 05 06:39:20 I have a centos install. May 05 06:39:23 I'd say hold it until it's evident that the behavior is different (or not) May 05 06:39:52 I held it for about a minute and gave up. May 05 06:40:02 yeah it shouldn't take that long May 05 06:40:42 Worth a try trying the usb flash drive? May 05 06:41:10 it probably can't do any harm other than potentially waste your time, I suppose. May 05 06:41:54 you might instead try some other bootable image? May 05 06:42:08 building such a thing might require your centos install, though May 05 06:42:27 Any suggestions on which would be a good one to try? May 05 06:43:43 well I'm sure I'm sounding like a broken record but I've had a good experience with the Debian Wheezy test image http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardDebian#Demo_Image May 05 06:44:07 Cool, thanks for the suggestion. May 05 06:47:11 I'd try rewriting the sd-card with a validation linux from your centos install May 05 06:48:13 Sorry, don't know what you mean by "validation linux". I have been just learning over the last few months. May 05 06:48:16 Hey Kwantam: I wrote the Ubuntu image from the following page to my Kingston 8G Class 4 MicroSD card and booted successfully: http://www.armhf.com/index.php/boards/beaglebone-black/ May 05 06:48:55 Hey, thanks. that's what I wanted to get to anyway! May 05 06:48:57 tony__: there should be validation images for the BBB May 05 06:49:17 Oh, okay, thanks. May 05 06:49:43 I'm now testing the same image on my Sandisk card, and if that works I'll give either the Debian a shot, or try the Arch Linux again. It might have been finger trouble with not holding the button down long enough but I'll have that confirmed in another 30 minutes I would say. May 05 06:50:28 Sandisk being microsd or usb flash drive? May 05 06:51:17 8GB Sandisk micro sd card Class 4. Its in my writer at the moment, but I'll double check when it has finished. May 05 06:52:01 Thanks. May 05 06:53:20 tony__, Noobie, good to know that works. May 05 06:53:30 erm, Noobie, even. May 05 06:53:43 tony__, if Ubuntu is what you're looking to use, then there you are! May 05 06:54:30 No problem guys. May 05 06:55:05 I'll give it a shot. May 05 06:58:32 I was just reading the ubuntu install page. Does it come with a desktop or just command prompt? May 05 06:59:16 if it's strictly commandline, you can always `apt-get install xorg` or whatever May 05 06:59:36 debian image cli too ? May 05 06:59:59 would think so, butthats what im after May 05 07:00:09 @Tony__: I was only intersted in the cli so I didn't test any further. (Also, I don't have an appropriate cable for video out yet.) May 05 07:00:44 Thanks. May 05 07:01:51 Going to try the angstrom img from my flashdrive here since I am curious. May 05 07:02:27 23:12 < MH> ka6sox I hava anA5 and A5A I am working with May 05 07:02:28 23:12 < kwantam> with the right combination of acids and a wire bonder maybe you can fix the glitch... tee hee May 05 07:02:31 23:12 < ka6sox> so you would be able to do this. May 05 07:02:33 23:13 < MH> A5A* .. May 05 07:02:36 23:14 < MH> do this? as in wire bonder and acids May 05 07:02:38 23:15 < kwantam> I don't think we have our wire bonder any more May 05 07:02:41 23:15 -!- Rickta59 [~kimballr@cpe-174-106-144-066.ec.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] May 05 07:02:44 23:15 < kwantam> anyway it was in california and I'm in texas so that won't fly May 05 07:02:56 yeah, thanks for that lol May 05 07:03:09 SanDisk 8GB Class 4 Micro SD card with Ubuntu on that link link above confirmed to boot. May 05 07:04:22 Good news. May 05 07:04:47 does it boot from the flash drive? May 05 07:05:19 Just creating this img, almost done. May 05 07:06:00 oh, I misparsed your statement. May 05 07:09:03 Still nothing with the flash drive. All I get is the pwr led light on. The boot switch is the one by the usb port right? May 05 07:09:43 the one sitting by itself. May 05 07:09:46 yeah, near the USB port May 05 07:10:07 Right, thanks. Gonna write the ubuntu one. May 05 07:10:21 grüezi May 05 07:16:47 disgregard copy paste error. made a fumble. May 05 07:20:12 oof, it appears it's bedtime May 05 07:21:24 hi May 05 07:26:18 That doesn't work either so maybe I'll get a new sd card tomorrow and give that a shot. May 05 07:31:37 Arch Linux Success. Just followed the following instructions, but the thing I was getting wrong time and time again, was how long to hold the button down while booting to make it select the correct image. Looks like about 8 seconds did it for me.: http://archlinuxarm.org/platforms/armv7/beaglebone May 05 07:33:02 If more than 8 did it not work? May 05 07:33:54 I'll do some more tests and get back to you Tony. Preivously I was not holding it down long enough. May 05 07:34:57 Thanks. May 05 07:38:20 After 8 seconds, I get 2 leds coming on. I'm wondering if somethign was shorting or maybe my button wasn't pressed cleanly the entire time before or not. May 05 07:38:46 Maybe it was a debounce issue? I'll do further testing later and post here. I have to sort out dinner now :) May 05 07:39:46 Thanks for all your help. I am off to bed. I'll have to get back to this in the morning. May 05 07:40:34 cdrttn, why the reposts? May 05 07:44:50 it was unintentional. my mouse is broken May 05 07:45:15 the BBB has certianly got things busy May 05 07:47:26 mrpackethead, yup May 05 07:52:39 <_av500_> BBBBusy May 05 08:07:14 the other cahnnel is cranking May 05 08:07:22 #beagleboneblack May 05 08:13:31 huh? who started that one? May 05 08:53:54 <_av500_> its used to spread FUD by rpi people May 05 08:55:23 why would there be a need for a separate channel? May 05 08:56:05 <_av500_> diversity May 05 08:56:07 <_av500_> no? May 05 08:58:44 <[1]segfault> good grief May 05 08:58:56 <[1]segfault> okay, i cant use an initrd lol :P May 05 08:59:21 <[1]segfault> had to use initramfs, but i solved my non-boot issue, if the kernel is over ~6MB the FDT gets ignore May 05 08:59:24 <[1]segfault> ignored* May 05 09:00:50 <_av500_> ? May 05 10:40:07 _av500_ what? May 05 10:46:35 are we back May 05 10:49:17 <[2]segfault> epic splits bros May 05 10:49:21 <[2]segfault> i did it May 05 10:49:22 <[2]segfault> :D May 05 10:49:30 <[2]segfault> i got my software running on both the beaglebone and beaglebone black May 05 10:49:34 <[2]segfault> one image : May 05 10:49:36 <[2]segfault> :D May 05 10:50:37 segfault fine May 05 10:52:22 <[2]segfault> after fighting with the beaglebone black for like 3 days... i figured out the kernel has problems dealing with the FDT if the kernel is > 6MBish May 05 10:53:48 <[2]segfault> im so happy May 05 12:52:10 hmm...4k5USD for an quartz oscillator... really cheap.. May 05 13:16:05 hello May 05 13:17:36 http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.ports.arm/12410 May 05 13:24:27 script.fex May 05 13:28:58 Anyone knows where DTS syntax is described ? I dont get the syntax "x : y { }" May 05 13:30:33 the ppc people have a document that describes the format May 05 13:31:11 but won't that be big endian? May 05 13:31:46 jkroon: https://www.power.org/resources/downloads/Power_ePAPR_APPROVED_v1.0.pdf May 05 13:31:54 mru: as long as it is not UCS-2 :) May 05 13:32:40 surrogate pairs ftw May 05 13:32:52 KotH, thanks.. but.. sigh.. I need an account to download it May 05 13:33:48 gimme a sec May 05 13:34:03 surely there's a direct link hiding somewhere May 05 13:34:56 jkroon: http://attila.kinali.ch/Power_ePAPR_APPROVED_v1.0.pdf May 05 13:35:45 KotH, thanks, I appreciate it May 05 13:37:34 * KotH knows why he keeps a collection of pdfs May 05 14:29:31 Getting further and further but stuck again at http://pastebin.com/0q6Vww7k -- wondering if my console is being switched to something else re: "Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 128x48". As I'm only connected via my TTL cable. I don't have an hdmi display here. May 05 14:29:51 e an hdmi display here. May 05 14:29:59 The LCD3 cape has a "pwms" property in the backlight DTS node, but I can't find it referenced anywhere in pwl_bl.c, the linux driver May 05 15:12:01 Yawn.... May 05 15:12:41 * SilicaGel1 tosses some dessicant packets into ka6sox's open mouth May 05 15:13:13 he he May 05 15:30:19 hello May 05 15:31:25 hai May 05 15:47:06 hello. can anyone tell me about black power? May 05 15:47:08 err May 05 15:47:16 beagle black power use May 05 15:47:22 especially idle. May 05 16:30:05 how to connect i2c devic May 05 16:32:12 impatiently May 05 16:40:55 hai May 05 16:44:50 is anyone alive May 05 16:46:15 <_av500_> no May 05 16:46:26 undead is the best you can hope for here May 05 16:50:32 SpeedEvil, its listed in the SRM pdf May 05 16:50:46 460ma max without any capes as i recall but . . . May 05 16:50:57 you should check for yourself May 05 16:53:47 yeah 460mA sounds right May 05 16:53:51 it's just under 500 May 05 17:44:16 is there a listing of the opkg contents in a manifest or some other location? May 05 17:49:03 av500: one for your t - http://pr0gramm.com/#newest/*/98674/2013/05/mr-t-tea-bag May 05 17:49:33 this one is old: http://pr0gramm.com/#newest/*/98659/2013/05/636x460design-01 May 05 18:01:38 morning trolls May 05 18:02:09 <_troll_> greetings mranostay May 05 18:02:40 mourning, as ka6sox-away would say May 05 18:03:51 quit3e May 05 18:13:28 m_billybob: yeah, it lists idle as TBD though May 05 18:14:09 so was wondering if someone with hardware had measured. May 05 18:38:37 koen: dutch due May 05 18:38:40 *dude May 05 18:41:51 <_av500_> SpeedEvil: I can measure tomororw May 05 18:41:54 <_av500_> remind e May 05 18:41:55 <_av500_> me May 05 18:42:18 <_av500_> wow, gpl-violations has dismembered itself mostly May 05 18:42:53 sigh. May 05 18:43:25 I noticed lots of spam, but didn't read. May 05 18:43:45 -av: thanks! May 05 18:44:14 wondering from a battery life perspective. May 05 18:44:56 <_av500_> well, for battery life you want to sleep May 05 18:45:02 <_av500_> as much as possible May 05 18:45:27 <_av500_> I think bradfa knows a lot about that May 05 18:45:36 <_av500_> including the woes to wake up May 05 18:45:40 of course. May 05 18:46:06 but you also need the hardware to support the various sleep modes. May 05 18:46:48 my other omap system does 2mA suspend, and 4 mA idle. May 05 18:48:03 <_av500_> sounds about right May 05 18:48:29 @4.2 May 05 18:53:19 <_av500_> yeah May 05 18:54:27 Hello all, just got my BBB but am having some issues getting it onto the latest image, is there any known issues with that image / process ? May 05 18:55:05 the image it shipped with had a problem that didnt let me on to SSH, hens the update May 05 18:56:53 <_av500_> unless you describe your issue, we cannot help May 05 18:57:11 <_av500_> ssh via network or via browser? May 05 18:57:15 both May 05 18:57:34 <_av500_> mranostay: ping May 05 18:57:45 ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host May 05 18:57:50 on both May 05 18:57:54 _av500_: browser ssh works without network? May 05 18:58:07 <_av500_> mranostay: can you comment on the ML about "How to reliably activate PRUSS on beaglebone?" May 05 18:58:38 <_av500_> mru: yes, if you run it locally May 05 18:58:40 <_av500_> :) May 05 18:58:47 i read on the forum that some had success in fixing that by updating to the latest RLS May 05 18:59:06 _av500_: localhost? May 05 18:59:18 but ATM iv left it updating for ~1h and its still flashing the LED's May 05 18:59:23 <_av500_> Bumble-Bee: this one worked for me: BBB-eMMC-flasher-2013.05.02.img May 05 18:59:37 <_av500_> there might be later ones too May 05 18:59:48 <_av500_> load, write to SD, insert, boot May 05 18:59:53 <_av500_> wait until all LEDs are ON May 05 18:59:57 <_av500_> remove, reboot May 05 18:59:58 there exists this on the pru for BBB: http://github.jfet.org/BBKNotes2.html May 05 19:01:19 _av500_ i dont see that one listed. http://beagleboard.org/latest-images/ and http://circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=Updating_The_Software May 05 19:01:20 <_av500_> MH: yes, I was referring to that May 05 19:01:41 Bumble-Bee I don't think it entered the update process. i went throug a similar issue where I couln't tell if it was updating or not. I let it sit for hours and no progress. May 05 19:02:09 humm May 05 19:02:46 <_av500_> ake yure you power cycle May 05 19:02:50 <_av500_> make sure May 05 19:02:53 <_av500_> not just reset May 05 19:02:59 <_av500_> to boot from SD May 05 19:03:04 <_av500_> and hold the boot button May 05 19:03:06 yeah i pull the 5v May 05 19:03:11 hold boot May 05 19:03:16 av500 say that part again about power cycle May 05 19:03:16 <_av500_> ok May 05 19:03:16 plug in 5v May 05 19:03:27 and hold untill the lights start to flash May 05 19:03:32 :P May 05 19:03:33 <_av500_> MH: your log cannot repeat it for you? May 05 19:04:41 av500 yes I just wanted you to rephrase it. Do you have to hold the power button and the boot button on start up? May 05 19:05:07 <_av500_> no May 05 19:05:18 <_av500_> you have to hard power cylce to get the SYSBOOT pins read May 05 19:05:25 <_av500_> aka the boot button May 05 19:05:26 <_av500_> S2 May 05 19:05:27 gotcha May 05 19:06:05 <_av500_> Bumble-Bee: ok, seems 04-13 is the latest "public" one May 05 19:06:16 lol av500 / MH on 2nd attempt it just went to all 4 LED's solid May 05 19:06:28 <_av500_> after a while I assume? May 05 19:06:34 but now the serial wont enumerate :) May 05 19:06:41 <_av500_> serial? May 05 19:06:47 <_av500_> you on bone or black? May 05 19:06:50 <_av500_> black May 05 19:06:55 black May 05 19:07:01 <_av500_> what serial? May 05 19:07:03 the network over USB stuff :P May 05 19:07:10 <_av500_> ah May 05 19:07:12 reboot with no SD in I think is the next step May 05 19:07:21 <_av500_> yes May 05 19:07:26 doh May 05 19:07:49 ill have to let it reflash again, was in such a rush i forgot to pull the SD card :P May 05 19:08:01 <_av500_> ? May 05 19:08:03 <_av500_> no May 05 19:08:04 <_av500_> just reboot May 05 19:08:10 <_av500_> why reflash? May 05 19:08:16 <_av500_> ah, its flashing agin May 05 19:08:18 <_av500_> well duh May 05 19:08:19 yeah :P May 05 19:09:56 i feel like a noob on this platform :) May 05 19:20:28 So has anyone written other distros besides the angstrom unto the emmc May 05 19:21:36 <_av500_> I dont have May 05 19:21:53 <_av500_> and angstrom was only for a test May 05 19:22:25 <_av500_> I happily run off SD May 05 19:23:03 I was wondering is there any reason to not run off SD as opposed to the onboard emmc? I don't know much about the benefits and drawbacks. May 05 19:23:11 <_av500_> the emmc is faster May 05 19:23:18 that was my assumption May 05 19:23:23 <_av500_> and 2GB emmc was cheap to put May 05 19:23:35 <_av500_> but then for most use cases, the speed is not really an issue May 05 19:23:45 <_av500_> unless you run ubuntu May 05 19:24:12 <_av500_> i'd have traded emmc for the onboard ftdi May 05 19:24:13 what do you mean about ubuntu, is it slow? May 05 19:24:19 <_av500_> its a desktop OS May 05 19:24:26 <_av500_> doing all these desktoppy things May 05 19:24:41 ah yes, well put. May 05 19:24:47 <_av500_> people found it slow on beagle and panda May 05 19:24:57 <_av500_> especially with slow SD cards May 05 19:25:03 and on i7 machines May 05 19:25:15 are there the same problems with debian May 05 19:25:17 Hiya. May 05 19:25:30 Are there any distributors for the BeagleBone Black in the UK? May 05 19:25:59 Darnell May 05 19:26:06 Darnell May 05 19:26:13 farnell May 05 19:26:15 grr May 05 19:26:19 aka element14 May 05 19:27:04 Awesome, thanks. :D May 05 19:27:23 MH im planning on putting arch onto the EMMC May 05 19:28:31 <_av500_> or digikey May 05 19:29:33 MH: I like the eMMC, it makes it "cleaner" so that people won't accidentally remove the sd card in my applications. May 05 19:30:03 dihikey has nasty shipping costs for small orders May 05 19:30:12 <_av500_> order big May 05 19:30:14 im hoping that the black is better than the rPi for USB focused tasks May 05 19:30:26 like webcam stuff :P May 05 19:30:44 ptan Yea I would prefer for my system to run off the emmc for the same reasons May 05 19:31:24 I'm hoping to it, among other things, as a first step into USB development. I assume Linux's USB widgets support works fine? May 05 19:31:35 Bumble-Bee I haven't used arch much, all I know it is somewhat minimalist. Maybe that is what I should use. May 05 19:31:44 Sorry, gadgets. May 05 19:31:50 (Wrong name, oops :D) May 05 19:32:35 MH thats why i use it, only install what you need :) May 05 19:32:42 <_av500_> Sophira: yep May 05 19:32:45 speedevil I've always had good luck with digi key, I just have to make sure I use the right shipping supplier and get it for as cheap as anywhere else May 05 19:33:14 <_av500_> I always got free shipping on digikey to germany May 05 19:33:26 <_av500_> but I always ordered >$60 or so May 05 19:33:37 <_av500_> whatever the threshold was May 05 19:33:38 quite. May 05 19:34:23 _av500_: digikey free shipping for Canada is $200, but shipping is only $8, so a lot of times I just pay the $8 May 05 19:35:07 <_av500_> 65€ for me May 05 19:35:14 <_av500_> so, order 2 blacks May 05 19:36:46 _av500_: what is the delivery time of digikey ? May 05 19:36:59 Bumble-Bee: I'm hoping that the black fixed the USB webcam DMA issue with the white (USB cameras need kernel compiled with polled xfers, not DMA on the white) May 05 19:38:22 I'm guessing that the difference between BB-BBLK-000 and BB-BBLK-000-ND is the onboard JTAG support? (Assuming ND means "No Debug"?) May 05 19:38:35 ptan iv never used the white :/ i just know that the USB on the pi is useless :P May 05 19:39:34 all i want is something that can get webcam images at more than 160x120 px and at something better than 5fps :P May 05 19:39:45 I have been looking for high resolution cameras(>=8mp) for the bone and haven't come accross anything good for the bone. Does anyone have a preferred camera type? May 05 19:41:35 i can test a 4MP webcam May 05 19:41:58 Bumble-Bee: I was able to get openCV blob detection at 320x240 at 10fps on iMX.53 board, I couldn't even get it working on white, so I'm hoping that I can with the black May 05 19:42:36 ptan hah thats very close to what i had on the Pi May 05 19:42:39 the iMx.53 boards costs wayyyy too much.. May 05 19:42:47 bat 160x120 @ 5ish fps May 05 19:42:55 -- bar May 05 19:43:16 anything better than that times out or is a blank image :P May 05 19:43:18 has any one tried GigE cameras on the bone? May 05 19:46:11 do you have a magical GbE bone? May 05 19:46:27 mru no :( May 05 19:47:22 mru I haven't worked with the GbE cameras, i didn't know if there was a way to throttle back the baud rate May 05 19:48:10 a sufficiently fancy camera will have controls for resolution and bitrate May 05 19:51:17 Sophira: I believe (someone correct me if I'm wrong) that the ND is just there to indicate that it is a Digikey part number. May 05 19:51:32 that is correct ND = digikey May 05 19:51:44 there is only one model of the board May 05 19:52:09 and so far only one revision May 05 19:52:28 not counting revs that didn't go on sale May 05 19:54:04 mranostay, http://elinux.org/Ti_AM33XX_PRUSSv2#Beaglebone_PRU_connections_and_modes: May 05 19:55:15 woah May 05 19:55:17 somebody said PRU May 05 19:55:18 * SilicaGe1 perks May 05 19:56:08 root@beaglebone:~# :D May 05 19:56:29 Unknown command :D May 05 19:56:39 cheers for the help _av500_ May 05 19:56:46 and everyone else May 05 19:57:33 morning SilicaGe May 05 19:58:44 <_av500_> ptan: its the same SoC, so the same USB (issues) May 05 19:59:00 av500: :( May 05 19:59:07 that was not what i was hoping to hear May 05 19:59:28 _av500_: ugghh... was the DMA problem ever fixed for USB webcams? May 05 19:59:40 <_av500_> I dont know May 05 20:00:37 last I heard from Jeff Lance on Dec 4, 2012 was that We’ve had multiple issues with the DMA and now we have a better understanding of the issues. May 05 20:00:41 1: We have an issue with multiple USB peripherals attached through a hub. We made an attempt to fix these issues through PG 2.0 of the AM335x device, but it is not resolved yet. May 05 20:00:44 2: There is a second issue where if your use case involves repeated turning on/off of the camera, the DMA can lose sync May 05 20:01:05 I never followed up because I got busy, was hoping it was fixed. May 05 20:01:36 Bumble-Bee how long does flashing the emmc actually take? is 45 minutes about right? Is there anyway to tell during the flashing process that it is working properly. May 05 20:03:02 MH mine saw about 40min May 05 20:03:20 for the first 5min there was constant SD card activity May 05 20:03:32 then after that just CPU / EMMC flashing lights May 05 20:05:10 when it was done all LED where on constantly May 05 20:05:53 <_av500_> MH: no May 05 20:06:01 <_av500_> unless you log in and watch df output May 05 20:06:05 <_av500_> which is what I did May 05 20:06:40 I guess I'll have to patient, my board could be flashing now or it could be doing something random... May 05 20:07:28 _av500_ the SD vs EMMC write LED are good indicators are wether its doing anuthing May 05 20:07:36 as afaik its not just an image copy May 05 20:07:54 it copys the files over and then does some setup on the EMMC May 05 20:07:57 <_av500_> yes May 05 20:08:29 <_av500_> its the script in /usr/bin/emmc.sh May 05 20:08:37 <_av500_> that is run May 05 20:11:49 av500 what is it that you monitor from the df output to know it is working May 05 20:12:03 the free space on / May 05 20:12:05 <_av500_> free size on the emmc May 05 20:12:07 i guess :P May 05 20:12:08 <_av500_> going down May 05 20:12:13 <_av500_> yup May 05 20:12:59 yay it must be working then as it is slowly dropping May 05 20:13:50 would be cool if the "install" image used the serial net tunnel to give you a webinterface for the install ;) May 05 20:17:16 humm May 05 20:17:18 strange May 05 20:17:37 my arch sd card starts to load then the device powers off :P May 05 20:25:52 <_av500_> usb? May 05 20:26:00 <_av500_> you need the magic i2c command May 05 20:26:40 <_av500_> uenvcmd=i2c mw 0x24 1 0x3e May 05 20:28:31 that turns on the carebear stare. May 05 20:28:38 hey Bumble-Bee :) May 05 20:29:54 Turl ohiya :D May 05 20:31:46 _av500_: nice magic i2c command, just reading up on it on your past irc log of 2013-03-26 May 05 20:33:41 <_av500_> ignore everything I said ever on irc May 05 20:36:40 Turl how long you been in here ? May 05 20:38:39 $ ls ~/.znc/users/*/moddata/log/*beagle_*|head -n1|sed 's/[^0-9]//g' May 05 20:38:39 20130416 May 05 20:39:00 so, like two weeks :) May 05 20:46:15 It's the hotel california, you can never leave... May 05 20:46:31 can i leave the state? May 05 20:48:22 <_av500_> tri state? May 05 20:48:30 <_av500_> if you get pinmuxing right, yes May 05 20:48:46 Turl sweet May 05 20:49:54 ptan just tested 320x240 openCV image processing from webcam May 05 20:50:19 colour slice + blob detection is the extent of the code and got 14-16fps May 05 20:51:19 Bumble-Bee: that was on an iMx.53 board, and only got 10fps May 05 20:51:42 did that a year ago. May 05 20:51:42 6fps at 640x480 :) May 05 20:51:54 ptan this is on the black :) stock image May 05 20:52:07 you got that on the black!! whoo-hoo!! May 05 20:52:11 cool!!! May 05 20:52:52 usb webcam? Which model? May 05 20:53:07 yeah usb webcam May 05 20:53:15 crappy old creative vista live May 05 20:53:34 cool... will try it as soon as I finish debugging this cape. May 05 20:54:06 (have too many things hooked up to it right now) May 05 20:54:27 <_av500_> who the fuck put a pdf viewer in firefox? May 05 20:54:46 funny you should say that May 05 20:54:59 <_av500_> it was not me May 05 20:56:24 ptan ill try and optimise the code a bit as well May 05 20:56:30 but after i get arch booting May 05 20:56:45 <_av500_> Bumble-Bee: how many fps do you get doing nothing? May 05 20:56:55 Bumble-Bee: did you do c++ or python? May 05 20:56:56 <_av500_> even not using openCV May 05 20:58:36 _av500_: see it as a positive thing, nobody needs to install a security hole to view pdfs on windows May 05 20:58:43 err, I mean, adobe reader May 05 20:59:20 s/windows/windows anymore/ May 05 20:59:27 i want to patch the existing am335x-bone.dts file.. Can I just append a new root node in that file, and write like "ocp { ... }", and that would then get merged with the root nodes previously defined ? May 05 21:00:49 <_av500_> Turl: I see it as: please do one thing and do it right May 05 21:01:19 <_av500_> what is next, open office? May 05 21:01:31 _av500_: it's implemented in javascript anyway May 05 21:01:33 _av500_: pdf.js May 05 21:01:36 <_av500_> omg May 05 21:02:01 https://github.com/mozilla/pdf.js/ May 05 21:02:31 * mru implements a javascript interpreter in postscript May 05 21:04:11 Turl: is that what comes with ff20? May 05 21:04:31 I certainly did not install any extension for it May 05 21:04:36 <_av500_> wtf, it does not have "search"? May 05 21:04:54 <_av500_> ah, stock ctrl -f May 05 21:04:58 working pru for bbb anybody? have uio_pruss mod loaded but nothing in /sys/class/uio, pruss examples fail with "prussdrv_open open failed" May 05 21:05:21 wtf, everybody knows / is the standard key for search May 05 21:05:29 that or ctrl-s May 05 21:06:36 ctrl-find is search on all the things I can remember May 05 21:06:55 <_av500_> well, searching takes ages May 05 21:07:02 I can only remember emacs and vi May 05 21:07:02 <_av500_> as expected wit ha js solution May 05 21:07:09 <_av500_> fail May 05 21:07:18 <_av500_> does not work for TRMs May 05 21:07:22 <_av500_> begone May 05 21:07:32 and it crashes the entire browser too May 05 21:07:39 see g+ for details May 05 21:07:42 <_av500_> thats a precaution May 05 21:08:15 you can disable and use evince or whatever you use if you don't like it May 05 21:08:30 eeeeew May 05 21:08:34 I've read AW datasheets with it and it worked okay, search was slow indeed May 05 21:08:39 _av500_ ill test that in a second :) May 05 21:08:51 ptan C / C++ May 05 21:08:51 the googledocs pdf viewer is better May 05 21:08:58 <_av500_> of course May 05 21:09:01 <_av500_> its not written in js May 05 21:09:06 it searches quickly too May 05 21:09:15 can't copy text to clipboard though May 05 21:09:25 <_av500_> I disabled it in chrome too May 05 21:09:45 I disabled chromme too May 05 21:09:56 can't render fonts properly May 05 21:12:25 <_av500_> work fine for comic sans here May 05 21:12:29 <_av500_> +s May 05 21:12:47 I doubt it has any kerning tables May 05 21:14:23 <_av500_> only Kermit tales May 05 21:14:24 _av500_: are you blind? otherwise I dunno how you can handle the pain May 05 21:14:44 <_av500_> ? May 05 21:15:18 <_av500_> ah no, its not for me, it's for my users, I use IE6 myself May 05 21:15:18 comic sans joke, nevermind May 05 21:15:37 simple question, where can i find the serial port pinout, ie, where the rx,tx pins are? May 05 21:15:45 <_av500_> in the schematics May 05 21:15:54 <_av500_> now ask where to find those May 05 21:16:30 _av500_: no need, thanks ;) i tried the SRM, it would be nice to have it there. May 05 21:16:37 <_av500_> they are in the SRM May 05 21:16:40 <_av500_> at the end May 05 21:17:17 <_av500_> SRM contains schematics May 05 21:19:04 _av500_: i did a quick search there for "serial" and it doesn't show any pinout May 05 21:19:49 _av500_: in the schematics i can find it easily May 05 21:19:54 <_av500_> oh May 05 21:19:58 <_av500_> BBB SRM hasd no schematics May 05 21:20:04 <_av500_> old BB srm had May 05 21:20:17 <_av500_> and yes, the pinout could be given in the serial debug section May 05 21:20:22 <_av500_> write to the ML May 05 21:20:29 <_av500_> and point that out May 05 21:21:27 i noticed that there was no pinout May 05 21:21:30 on the diagrams May 05 21:21:35 <_av500_> write to the ML May 05 21:21:36 <_av500_> and point that out May 05 21:22:29 <_av500_> night all May 05 21:22:30 <_av500_> 73 May 05 21:23:20 _av500_: thanks, good night May 05 21:37:36 so trying to get the Black PRU up and running. I think I am close, yet when I go to compile I get the following error message: May 05 21:37:56 "/usr/lib/gcc/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/4.7.3/../../../../arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/bin/ld: error: ../../app_loader/lib/libprussdrv.a(prussdrv.o) uses VFP register arguments, ../bin/PRU_memAccess_DDR_PRUsharedRAM does not" May 05 21:38:37 I think it is trying to use a cross compiler for the PRU? anyone seen something like this May 05 21:38:57 is it arm? May 05 21:39:15 I am running the latest update of the angstrom distro May 05 21:39:24 I mean the PRU May 05 21:39:35 MH: you're mixing floating-point ABIs May 05 21:40:06 you can try building with -msoft-float if it is May 05 21:40:10 make sure you use the same -mfloat-abi flag for everything May 05 21:40:13 Turl: NOOOOOO May 05 21:40:35 mru: why not? May 05 21:40:56 this error has nothing to do with the pru as such May 05 21:41:07 the PRU is not an ARM btw May 05 21:41:29 this is just an issue of the way I am compiling, right? May 05 21:41:50 but blindly adding -msoft-float can only do one of two things: 1) make things break, or 2) make things *slow* May 05 21:42:39 mru: well, 1) happened already and 2) is better than 1) May 05 21:42:53 that's where you're wrong May 05 21:43:29 -mfload-abi is leaving me with the same error, I am a little confused on these floating point ABIs. new to me. May 05 21:44:22 MH: build everything with -mfloat-abi=hard May 05 21:44:33 or just use the compiler default by omitting the flag entirely May 05 21:50:14 mru hmm I think I am getting the same error, still trying... May 05 21:50:28 MH: that means you're still mixing flags May 05 21:51:05 yea i think my flags are a mess :/ my linker flags at the moment are: May 05 21:51:11 -Wall -D__DEBUG -O2 -mtune=cortex-a8 -march=armv7-a -lprussdrv -lpthread -mfloat-abi=hard May 05 21:51:40 -mfloat-abi is a compiler, not linker, flag May 05 21:52:00 o.O goog to know I was trying in both places May 05 21:52:12 it doesn't hurt to use it when linking too May 05 21:52:32 irrelevant flags are simply ignored May 05 21:52:53 so compiler flags I have: -c -Wall -mfloat-abi=hard May 05 21:53:07 yay i got my board. i notice it has a 5v barrel connector, it's been a while since i saw one of those. can i power it from a usb wall wart (2 amp capable) through the micro usb port? May 05 21:53:29 MH: then you're linking with something previously built that uses the other abi May 05 21:53:50 solrize: you can power it over usb May 05 21:54:12 but using the barrel connector is preferable if you want to attach any usb devices May 05 21:54:15 That is a good possibility, I will try to rebuild all of the PRU components May 05 21:54:24 usb hub power supplies usually have the right plug May 05 21:55:00 thanks right now the only 5v ps i have is the wall wart May 05 21:55:16 i will try to get one of those plugs someplace May 05 21:55:40 and wire it up to a usb/d plug i guess May 05 21:56:16 your nearest fry's or rs should have a complete power supply with suitable plug May 05 21:56:23 or you can get one from wherever you got the beagle May 05 21:58:03 well i already have the wart, might as well use it instead of buying another. May 05 21:58:34 you can never have too many power supplies May 05 21:58:51 I have a crate full of spare ones May 05 21:59:09 that's after using 15 or so May 05 22:01:36 mru thank you I now have my PRU up and running on the black May 05 22:02:02 great May 05 22:02:32 the error messages are a bit cryptic when that happens May 05 22:03:10 humm May 05 22:03:19 anyone got arch running on the BBB ? May 05 22:03:33 the way it works is that the first object file encountered by the linker decides the abi, and if any others disagree it prints that error May 05 22:04:00 Yes, it turns out my .a files libprussdrv.a and libprussdrvd.a were out of date from a previous build. Deleting and rebuillding solved it. May 05 22:04:00 Bumble-Bee: the arch maintainers, presumably May 05 22:04:58 mru well yeah :P May 05 22:05:13 just wondeing about others May 05 22:05:36 mine wont seem to boot to arch with an ethernat cable plugged it May 05 22:05:55 LEDs flash for a few seconds then it just switches off :/ May 05 22:06:20 cant see it being a power issue May 05 22:06:33 as its on a 2.1Amp usb charger / psu May 05 22:06:37 do you have the serial console connected? May 05 22:07:45 no May 05 22:07:52 you should May 05 22:07:53 i only have a CP2102 May 05 22:08:04 first rule of debugging May 05 22:08:17 yeah May 05 22:08:30 A i cant fins a pinout for the ttl pins May 05 22:08:45 B not really sure is the CP2102 will work :P May 05 22:08:49 -- if May 05 22:08:56 Bumble-Bee: is it a phone charger or a real psu? May 05 22:09:10 some require usb negotiation to get the higher amps I hear May 05 22:09:12 Turl N7 charger May 05 22:09:35 ill grab the tf201 charger May 05 22:12:12 was there anyone who was interested in the BBC cape ? May 05 22:12:24 Bumble-Bee: cp2102 should work May 05 22:16:11 don't know what the bbc cape is May 05 22:18:10 Beagle Bone Cape cape May 05 22:20:55 Turl for some reason arch seems really unstable May 05 22:21:13 missing the keystone? May 05 22:21:30 like i got it to boot but it then died after a few moments May 05 22:45:54 Bcc = Blank Canvas Cape May 05 22:45:58 its a FPGA May 05 22:47:01 Hey all, I'm having difficulty ssh'ing into my BeagleBone Black May 05 22:47:28 I'm in linux, and when I try via my openssh client I get "read: connection reset by peer" May 05 22:47:58 when I try via gateone I get "connection closed by remote host" May 05 22:48:20 I can access the web interface just fine May 05 22:50:03 I've tried loading the most recent Angstrom image, but I've had issues with that as well. May 05 22:51:16 http://www.adafruit.com/products/276#Description is this the right connector? May 05 22:52:30 i guess it shows a bb a6 in "may we suggest" so it looks good May 05 22:52:39 and bbb too :) May 05 22:52:41 ok bbl May 05 22:54:55 (when I try to run the latest Angstrom, I can't connect over ssh and after a while it seems to freeze, with D3 and D4 lit and the USB devices unresponsive) May 05 22:55:38 (in that case I also can't connect to the web interface; I don't know whether that's expected) May 05 22:57:01 should I be bothering someone else? May 05 22:57:51 bwr have you updated to the latest image ? May 05 22:58:21 no, I mentioned that I've tried and had issues May 05 23:00:33 bwr how did you try and update ? May 05 23:01:52 I unzipped the Angstrom image, used dd to copy it to my uSD, and attempted to boot from the uSD (by holding S2 during boot) May 05 23:05:39 does anyone know if gpu acceleration is achievable on the beaglebone with the 3.8.x kernel? May 05 23:10:25 is there some other way I can connect to try to debug my problem? May 05 23:15:00 Serial would probably give early boot output. May 05 23:15:30 can I watch the serial output via the usb port? or do I need a usb-to-ttl device? May 05 23:17:07 I believe you'd need the usb-to-ttl device, or alternatively you might be able to change your kernel option line to get the console log on a different device (like the video console). May 05 23:18:18 ok, thanks May 06 00:13:49 I may actually have a better way to solve my issues: I have access to the cloud9 IDE; maybe I can use Node.js in lieu of a shell May 06 00:15:28 If you can access the cloud9 IDE, I'm not clear on what your problem is? May 06 00:15:43 the ssh daemon doesn't accept connections May 06 00:16:22 The ssh daemon doesn't, or the ssh gateway application thing doesn't? May 06 00:16:49 both May 06 00:16:53 well, I guess the former May 06 00:17:12 I've tried using openssh on my laptop and I get a similar error May 06 00:17:35 On mine, the ssh gateway app didn't work, but I could connect fine with putty on windows or openssh from Linux. May 06 00:17:57 I get "ssh_exchange_identification: read: Connection reset by peer May 06 00:17:58 " May 06 00:18:17 from the openssh client May 06 00:18:48 Maybe the dropbear key generation process didn't run for some reason. May 06 00:19:14 maybe dropbear is just the most annoying sshd ever May 06 00:19:23 Heh. May 06 00:19:25 what command would I run on the box to run the keygen manually? May 06 00:22:00 I can't remember off the top of my head, unfortunately. May 06 00:28:08 excellent; I can run arbitrary shell commands with Node's child_process May 06 00:28:34 If you build angstrom yourself, it's pretty easy to switch the image to build opensshd instead of dropbear. You may be able to opkg install openssh, too. May 06 00:29:17 I'll check it out; thanks! May 06 00:31:13 hi May 06 00:31:28 hahaha if I tell the child process to inherit stdio from Node, I can just run bash and interact with it via the cloud9 console :) May 06 00:31:40 i have a BBBK and had a BB and very disappointed in the lack of downward compatability May 06 00:32:28 bwr: Heh, nice. Figured node would let you do that, but wasn't sure exactly how to do it. May 06 00:32:45 anyone get 3.2 kernel working on black ? May 06 00:33:14 Why are you trying to get a 3.2 kernel to work? May 06 00:36:42 because the 3.2 kernal is downard compatable with the BB (non black) they screwed up the device tree May 06 00:37:11 You want the same image/kernel for both? May 06 00:37:46 i regreg buying the BBBK makes Rpi look niceer. I had a Rpi sold it May 06 00:38:15 Anyone here successful in installing Android on the BBBK? May 06 00:38:17 yes I'd like an image with omap_mux and all that for the uarts to work and run lighttpd not this node.js May 06 00:38:25 and have a BB image that runs on BBBK May 06 00:40:08 i have Ubuntu on SD and its nicer than Angstrom -- have to boot with S2 down to get it May 06 00:40:22 any way to copy SD to eMMC ? easily w/o an hour wait ? May 06 00:42:39 Ubuntu is nicer than Angstrom if you only want to use distro-built packages and distro-built images. May 06 00:43:36 ubun vs ang.. Then what does Ang offer ubuntu does? May 06 00:44:11 It's designed for embedded systems. The image output doesn't offer much, but the process for building it does. May 06 00:44:33 Dinnertime. May 06 00:44:50 i dont see much diff.. for a simepl web server with IO as i wanted I can disable most logging and sd writes May 06 00:45:14 which suite me fine ... just not have a hart or gpio is a pain -- and forcing me to Javascript Yuk! May 06 00:45:34 You can use gpio with gentoo May 06 00:45:55 guy at work bought a CubieBoard tomorrow i'll nkow more -- may make the switch May 06 00:46:13 gentoo! Can I use uarts with gentoo ? May 06 00:46:24 point me to a link please! Im grateful May 06 00:46:33 I'm new to this linux world.... I don't know what uarts is May 06 00:47:16 UART is Universal Serial Receiver Transmitter in other word RS232 like data 9600 baud 115,200 baud etc May 06 00:47:28 gotcha May 06 00:47:45 I imagine it would be possible to use serial? However I have no way of testing May 06 00:47:45 except RS232 is also LEVELS +/- 12 V DC where the uarts on BB & BBBK are TTL or 0..3.3V levels May 06 00:48:35 I have a tarball with SSHd and dhcpd installed, so I just hit it through ssh May 06 00:49:06 yes for connections USB SSH all that is fine for real hardware like lighting a/c appliance controls i need data May 06 00:49:14 out f the board to other stuff May 06 00:49:23 http://dev.gentoo.org/~armin76/arm/beagleboneblack/install.xml#doc_chap3 << Gentoo >??? May 06 00:49:33 That was the guide used May 06 00:49:46 It took a while.... I have a tarball I can upload somewhere May 06 00:49:54 guide? class? teacher?? who ? May 06 00:50:03 The link you displayed May 06 00:50:41 ok XZ compress it better than pkzip compression 200megs will take me 45 minutes on my DSL ! May 06 00:52:36 Let me compress it and I'll let you know May 06 00:53:44 sure thing May 06 00:54:24 I'm just trying to see if I can get Netflix to run on this thing May 06 00:54:36 Whether it's through Android or whatnot May 06 00:55:25 im nr Chicago IL -- xterm91 are you state side or outside the us May 06 00:55:47 stateside May 06 00:56:11 I have decent upload if you have a server I can drop this on May 06 00:57:52 maybe a drop box -- dont know name pwd had one for work May 06 00:58:47 Does anyone have GPIO control via C/C++ for the black on the latest angstrom build? May 06 00:59:09 I've got it on debian May 06 00:59:36 HH ha ha isnt that the most asked question!!! thats my pet pieve too node js aint my idea of fun May 06 00:59:48 what are you having trouble with? May 06 00:59:54 ssi what linux kernal is that with? Do you have an example online somewhere? May 06 00:59:59 I'm writing directly to the gpio and control module adresses May 06 01:00:03 it's 3.8.10, and yea one sec May 06 01:00:07 I was just echoing into the gpio led brightness file haha May 06 01:00:59 MH: it's just some preliminary stuff, but it shows how to do it outside the kernel modules May 06 01:01:01 https://bitbucket.org/imcmahon/beagleboneblack-gpio_driver May 06 01:01:04 xterm making a ftp site now -- standby to standbby May 06 01:01:22 Standing by May 06 01:01:26 Awesome thank you ssi! I'll see where this takes me. May 06 01:01:32 only thing that's not working is trying to configure inputs as anything but pullup May 06 01:01:35 they always pullup for me May 06 01:01:55 I can live with that May 06 01:02:13 you need to know the control offset of the pin May 06 01:02:23 I made a spreadsheet that maps them May 06 01:02:33 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuCI6qJwolM-dENsdWtzZ21GakwxRXdqanZUeklOZHc#gid=0 May 06 01:03:18 That is also very useful, thank you May 06 01:04:27 Ed22: just wisp me the url when ready May 06 01:04:39 ok xterm May 06 01:05:07 MH: out of curiosity, were you able to read/write the GPIOs through sysfs? May 06 01:05:25 ftp gentoo@marchdvd.com May 06 01:05:45 the name of the disto with 123 at the end for n/pwd May 06 01:05:53 ssi I had no luck with that. May 06 01:06:04 odd May 06 01:06:07 it worked for me May 06 01:06:27 I banged my head against the wall for awhile because I was metering/scoping P8 when I thought I was scoping P9 May 06 01:06:39 are you playing with actual pins, or trying to flip the userled gpios? May 06 01:07:55 xterm did you get in ? May 06 01:08:22 one second May 06 01:10:32 xterm what is the file size ? May 06 01:10:37 ssi I have been trying to do both, I have been sort of just scrambling lately to get everything I had written on the beaglebone rev A5 ported to the black A5A May 06 01:11:11 Ed22 check for PM May 06 01:12:12 pm? May 06 01:12:17 MH: one thing to bear in mind... there's a gpio_leds kernel module that grabs the userled gpios, and you won't be able to manipulate them via the /sys/class/gpio files, and I'm not sure if you can manipulate them directly via memory May 06 01:12:23 private message May 06 01:12:27 MH: I built a kernel with those drivers modular May 06 01:21:38 May 06 01:30:16 I install ubuntu onto an SD card for my beaglebone black, but i'm not sure if its booting right, and if it is, how i talk to the board May 06 01:31:33 How are you trying to boot it? May 06 01:32:40 well i tried inserting the card, holding user button the plugging in May 06 01:32:58 but that just boots to angstrom May 06 01:33:19 uEnv.txt is Legacy to the original BB? May 06 01:33:20 without holding the button it boots to something *different* but I'm not sure May 06 01:33:58 I'm a Windows guy... taking my stab at linux and embedded devices May 06 01:37:01 okay so I can boot off the SD card into ubuntu, but how do i most ubuntu to the eMMC? May 06 01:37:43 beekman be sure to post that I had a lot of trouble getting ubuntu unto the eMMC May 06 01:37:44 Why do you want to put ubuntu on the eMMC? May 06 01:38:29 because I want it to boot ubuntu without holding the user button, and without the SD card in May 06 01:39:08 Well, I gathered that much. I'm just curious what your ultimate purpose in using ubuntu is. May 06 01:39:32 hello May 06 01:40:05 Oh sorry, I would just prefer ubuntu and i've seen more peple use wifi on ubuntu than angstrom May 06 01:40:22 also the angstrom keeps freezing/rebooting on me May 06 01:41:06 I eventually want ubuntu on the eMMC too :/ May 06 01:43:21 Is anyone else curious about possibly getting Netflix to run on this? May 06 01:43:49 The thing about Angstrom is that it's based on an embedded systems development toolchain, which makes it far more convenient to extend and modify than Ubuntu. But if you're going to mostly be using pre-built kernels and packages and whatnot, I guess Ubuntu would work just as well. May 06 01:44:17 Is there a benefit to Angstrom over Gentoo? May 06 01:44:33 Gentoo is the last distro I would pick. May 06 01:44:55 I typically use prebuilt kernels and packages heh May 06 01:44:58 Really? I had it install and update everything just fine... I'm just not used to the package manager May 06 01:45:25 levi -- i'd like ubunu on the emmc also -- how do i do that May 06 01:45:47 ssi hmm I'm not having any luck with your code either :/ the kernal you said you made that is only necessary for the gpio_leds right? May 06 01:46:04 I have no desire to put ubuntu on the emmc, so I haven't looked up how to do it. May 06 01:46:54 Gentoo is designed to build the packages that run on the machine on the machine itself. Why would you want to compile stuff on a little ARM CPU when you've got a far more powerful desktop or laptop handy? May 06 01:47:06 MH: correct May 06 01:47:16 MH: what's it doing? May 06 01:47:34 I'm new to this but distcc could be used, right? May 06 01:48:07 I compiled my kernel for it in a virtual machine, surely the same thing can be done for other binaries? May 06 01:48:17 ssi So as is with port GPIO1_7 as the output. I am not seeing any response. GPIO1_7 is a LED-GPIO right? May 06 01:48:23 Possibly, but it seems like a lot more trouble than just using Angstrom, buildroot, geexbox, or one of the several other embedded Linux build systems. May 06 01:49:25 Very well May 06 01:50:26 ssi nope gpio1_21-24 are user leds May 06 01:51:18 ssi or sorry they original code you sent uses GPIO1_28 as output, May 06 01:51:31 I like to strip my embedded OS down to the bare essentials needed for the application I'm developing. Makes problems easier to track down and avoids slowing things down with extraneous code. May 06 01:51:49 May 06 01:51:50 yea GPIO1_28 is what I was testing with... that should be P9 pin 12 May 06 01:56:44 ssi or sorry they original code you sent uses GPIO1_28 as output, I get a flat 0v signal on this pin May 06 01:57:33 ssi ** I get 0v on this pin May 06 01:57:58 ssi I must be confused, isnt P9 pin 12 GPIO1_12? May 06 01:58:31 no May 06 01:58:44 refer to my spreadsheet May 06 01:58:54 that's why I made that... it's very confusing, and you have to dig through docs in several places May 06 02:01:27 is uEnv.txt restricted to the original BB? May 06 02:01:28 ssi Oh man I am alsorts of turned around. Your code is working flawlessly, thank you so much. Is the pin assignment on the black differnt than the previous revs May 06 02:01:38 MH: no, the pins are the same May 06 02:01:52 best way to think about it is the BBB is a BBW with a cape attached that has emmc and hdmi consuming some of the signals May 06 02:02:23 xterm91 what is the default login/pwd on this gentoo May 06 02:02:32 ssi sounds simple enough to me, thanks again May 06 02:02:35 no problem May 06 02:02:50 mount the sdcard and edit the password for root May 06 02:03:06 you can use openssl to generate a new password hash May 06 02:03:32 im using a mac the card wont mount an ext3/4 fs May 06 02:03:50 i do have a few othe rlinux boxes but perfer not to mess with that ... pile of stuff !! May 06 02:04:02 password is exile May 06 02:04:15 login as root May 06 02:04:23 Ed22: osxfuse May 06 02:04:39 muct i mount and edit -- or can i boot and login? May 06 02:04:45 what is osxfuse? mounter? May 06 02:05:01 fuse is filesystems in user space right? May 06 02:05:11 it'll let you mount ext2/ext4 May 06 02:05:45 ok DL it now! 30 megs of the 424 megs so far! dsl is slow May 06 02:06:05 haha, I got it up to your server pretty darn quick May 06 02:06:14 yeah ! May 06 02:06:32 I guess that's what happens with 65Mbps upload May 06 02:06:45 maybe web page is throttled and ftp is not ?? dunno May 06 02:07:06 osxfuse 25 seconds left May 06 02:07:10 I guess that would depend on your provider May 06 02:08:22 installed r u on a mac too May 06 02:08:33 I am, yes May 06 02:08:41 If I compiled uboot from source for my gentoo installation would I be able to use the same uboot for an android installation? May 06 02:08:41 i did not reboot May 06 02:08:45 trying a sd card now May 06 02:09:20 you should reboot May 06 02:09:24 I think I had problems til I rebooted May 06 02:09:27 also, edit /System/Library/Filesystems/fuse-ext2.fs/fuse-ext2.util May 06 02:09:33 line 207, add rw+ to the options May 06 02:09:40 that'll make it mount read/write automatically May 06 02:09:42 defaults to ro May 06 02:11:39 must i reboot for osxfuse to work? May 06 02:11:43 probably May 06 02:12:40 arrgghh... df shows free disk space down to 97% on default angstrom. What is safe to get rid of on the default BBB build? May 06 02:13:07 sorry, that is 97% used, 57900 available. May 06 02:13:37 Wow that sounds crowded... glad I'm sitting off on an sd card May 06 02:15:31 ok, most of the stuff taking up space is on ~/.npm May 06 02:15:59 can someone with a clean BBB do an ls -a ~/.npm and let me know what it says? May 06 02:16:19 I need to know what I can delete (or if I can delete it all) May 06 02:17:05 or does anyone know how to prune npm properly? May 06 02:17:23 xterm when i make these partitions does size matter or boot like 70 megs and 3.9gb for root??? May 06 02:17:55 i ll boot my BBBK and look at .npm May 06 02:18:03 thanks May 06 02:19:49 where is .npm? May 06 02:19:52 dhat dir ? May 06 02:20:01 should be in ~/.npm May 06 02:20:22 /home/root/.npm May 06 02:20:34 or do you not have a .npm directory? May 06 02:20:41 i dont have one ! May 06 02:20:48 ok, cool... that helps.. May 06 02:20:52 doing a find ! find . -name '.npm' May 06 02:20:56 long wait May 06 02:21:06 nothing found May 06 02:21:34 I was installing stuff in node.js using npm install ... so now that I know it is safe, I can just delete it all. May 06 02:21:38 thanks. May 06 02:22:23 Ed22: boot will be only around 70 megs May 06 02:22:32 ok - i never invoked npm b4 May 06 02:23:30 I'm learning it now as I go along. Using npm to install stuff needed to get a web server running under node.js May 06 02:24:53 my 30 meg DL just died conection lost! May 06 02:24:59 starting over ! ugh! May 06 02:25:11 guess i can reboot os x now ! May 06 02:25:17 c ya all thanks for the help May 06 02:26:34 mranostay, http://elinux.org/Ti_AM33XX_PRUSSv2#Beaglebone_PRU_connections_and_modes: May 06 02:29:52 lol May 06 02:31:00 what is your default usage on df? May 06 02:31:38 I've got mine down to 95% use, should it be less than that? May 06 02:32:17 can someone with a angstrom BBB check for me May 06 02:32:19 ? May 06 02:32:21 ptan I am at 78% use for angstrom May 06 02:32:27 ptan that is on the emmc May 06 02:32:42 hmmm... I've got other junk I need to clean up still then. May 06 02:32:43 ptan that is also with plenty of extra code on board May 06 02:34:07 ptan are you using the latest image? May 06 02:34:24 no, using the image that came shipped with the BBB May 06 02:34:40 ptan you should update the image, that is a good way to clean it up May 06 02:36:09 MH: I would have, but after seeing everyone having problems with upgrading, I am going to wait for a while till the dust settles May 06 02:36:34 I had no problems upgrading with the angstrom distro, it is the other ones that are causing troubles. May 06 02:37:00 ptan it does take about 45 minutes for it to update, so you have to be patient May 06 02:38:20 MH: is there much difference in the 3.8.6 Apr 13 version and the current version? May 06 02:39:32 MH: where is the changelog anyway for it? my google-fu is failing me. May 06 02:40:25 ptan, that is the one I installed. As far as I know that is the latest, right? No luck on changelog. May 06 02:41:10 MH: hmm... so I'm aready running the latest version? May 06 02:41:43 MH: I thought the latest version was 3.8.11? May 06 02:43:40 ptan I am on 3.8.6 there probably is a 3.8.11 floating around out there. May 06 02:44:45 just wrote an app and ran it on beaglebone in about 5 minutes May 06 02:44:55 pretty awesome May 06 02:45:51 jarrettv hello beagle world May 06 02:46:04 Heh May 06 02:46:04 yea, wrote it in mono May 06 02:46:08 has anyone figured out how to change the date and time on the BBB? May 06 02:46:26 MH: I thought it would say "woof, woof, woof!" May 06 02:46:52 Galt: ntpdate pool.ntp.org to set it to the correct time. May 06 02:47:07 hehe May 06 02:47:10 I got mine to datalog from my car, and display (via ardunio with 2.8" TFT) engine parameters today, I love the beaglebone heh May 06 02:47:15 thanks May 06 02:48:06 ntpdate caused a reboot May 06 02:48:28 nevermind, screen just went blank May 06 02:48:38 I tried again, and it always says "the NTP socket is in use, exiting" this happens after I try to stop and start ntpd? May 06 02:49:16 Galt: if you are running ntpd, you should stop ntpd first and then run ntpdate pool.ntp.org May 06 02:50:25 yayyy... down to 92% Use on df... I can live with that for now. May 06 02:50:28 does anyone know what support the hdmi port has? version? cec commands? audio return path? eithernet? May 06 02:52:49 first: "rm /etc/localtime", second: "ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Los_Angeles /etc/localtime" third: "/etc/init.d/ntpd stop", and I get: " Stopping ntpd: no process in pidfile '/var/run/ntp.pid' found; none killed" and I can't continue? May 06 02:53:51 Galt: are you running the default angstrom build? May 06 02:54:41 Galt: also, do you have internet access from the BeagleBone black (I assume this is a Beaglebone black?) May 06 02:55:06 Galt: i.e. does ping 8.8.8.8 return ok? May 06 02:56:02 Yes. I did an opkg update, then upgrade, and the nand crapped out, so I made a new micro sd nand flash disk, and loaded it back into nand. Every time I try to update, the nand corrupts, so I thought it could be that the date and time were off? May 06 02:57:07 I am pinging right now, and: 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_req=75 ttl=45 time=50.2 ms May 06 02:57:07 Galt: just verified on my BBB, ntpdate pool.ntp.org returns correctly. May 06 02:57:29 yes beaglebone black May 06 02:58:23 Galt: I don't think nand corruption is caused by time/date issues though.. May 06 02:59:02 Galt: could be caused by power supply issues May 06 02:59:51 I don't know? I tried to update, and then reboot, and it crashes with all the LED in an on state, and never boots afterwards. I am using a new 5v 2.5 amp supply, and it seems like plenty of power. I also have a powered usb hub that is working fine! **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon May 06 02:59:58 2013