**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat May 11 02:59:58 2013 May 11 03:00:04 I'll crack the code, though. May 11 03:00:10 lithium ion you say ? May 11 03:00:18 they're called lithium phosphate May 11 03:00:28 it's a type of lithium ion but without the internal oxidizer May 11 03:00:32 SilicaGel: is there some pulse-high-load type thing you can do? May 11 03:00:34 like LiFePO4 or something? May 11 03:00:38 their density (weight to power) is not as good May 11 03:00:45 as regular lithium ion. i.e. they are heavy May 11 03:00:48 but this is in a building so i don't care May 11 03:00:53 yeah May 11 03:01:03 like, short them for a few nanoseconds and measure things. May 11 03:01:25 each pack is 648 cells, 2300Ah about, and weighs 77 lbs May 11 03:01:36 yeah. i'm mkind of doing that now but not dead short May 11 03:01:41 heh much lighter than our stuff May 11 03:01:46 i'm running them through charge/discharge cycles at varying loads May 11 03:01:47 run a particle accelerator off it for a millisecond May 11 03:01:50 each 2v cell islike 120 lbs May 11 03:01:55 :O May 11 03:02:20 maybe not that heavy but they're not light either May 11 03:02:22 we have a freakin awesome inverter/charger though May 11 03:02:44 is this a commercia lapplication ? May 11 03:02:49 commercial* May 11 03:02:57 SilicaGel: is it solar powered too, so you get 110% conversion efficiency? May 11 03:03:09 there were folks at an EV meet I went to 2 years ago who were using LiFePO4 I think, had the most reasonable mileage of any of the homemade electric cars May 11 03:03:17 Mazda Miata outfitted with the cells in the trunk May 11 03:03:26 here is my lab May 11 03:03:27 http://www.rit.edu/gis/facilities/testbeds/microgrid%20testbed.php May 11 03:03:30 check it out May 11 03:03:35 you can see the PV inverters there May 11 03:04:19 yeah thats a beast of a system May 11 03:04:26 ah, slick May 11 03:04:33 the power grid maintainer for RIT eh May 11 03:04:44 nah that's just our little research grid May 11 03:04:45 nothing like ours, we're pretty much residential RE May 11 03:04:47 i'm a research engineer May 11 03:04:55 gotcha May 11 03:04:55 SilicaGel: 5kW each? May 11 03:05:00 feel like i have a small solar penis now May 11 03:05:03 you know who has the craziest microgrid i have ever seen though? UC Irvine May 11 03:05:06 lol May 11 03:05:06 it's insane May 11 03:05:26 those inverters are 6KW each, the are SMA SB-6000-US May 11 03:05:34 SilicaGel, so what is it that you do ? May 11 03:06:06 I do a lot of things, I have been working on asset health and diagnostic systems for things like ships, commmercial trucks, etc. and now I'm working on some building energy things May 11 03:06:20 ah May 11 03:06:24 that sounds like fun. May 11 03:06:33 the microgrid is going to be various projects, trying to find people to fund them May 11 03:06:36 no sh*t May 11 03:06:40 I'm really interested in smart grid to smart home integration May 11 03:06:51 I have a demonstration "smart home" mock up built in that lab May 11 03:06:54 i call it the chicken coop May 11 03:07:02 do you all work on heat recoup too ? May 11 03:07:02 and it's set up to do a simulation of automatic demand response May 11 03:07:21 so i can island my grid from the building and turn the dryer and lights on in the "house" May 11 03:07:44 then i can put more and more load on the grid until it starts to get in trouble, and it sends a message to the house and the house cooperatively sheds some discretionary loads May 11 03:07:56 SilicaGel: Nice. I've got 2x5kW May 11 03:08:05 hm the only thing really is we have a 400KW fuel cell May 11 03:08:11 that runs on natural gas that is reformed into hydrogen May 11 03:08:15 the reformer runs at 700 degrees C May 11 03:08:22 free winter heat? May 11 03:08:24 and you have to maintain that temperature for it to run clean May 11 03:08:35 so we take all that excess heat and we use it to heat our building, May 11 03:08:48 that probably works well in the winter up there May 11 03:08:48 lol May 11 03:08:51 could put one of those plant heat recoup system on that and get some energy back possibly ! May 11 03:08:51 and any heat we don't use goes out a pipe and heats the rest of campus May 11 03:08:54 at a cost of course. May 11 03:09:07 better than dragging firewood in to burn May 11 03:09:16 you know what expensive toy i want next though? May 11 03:09:25 People are doing work on hooking up absorption chillers to fuel cells, May 11 03:09:33 and make COLD water from all that heat May 11 03:09:42 oh yeah May 11 03:09:43 giant peltiers, essentially? May 11 03:09:46 nice May 11 03:09:50 um May 11 03:09:52 oh May 11 03:09:53 whats it May 11 03:09:56 absorption, yeah May 11 03:10:06 alcohol? May 11 03:10:14 no May 11 03:10:14 anyway bbl May 11 03:10:18 its what they use in fridges May 11 03:10:22 ah May 11 03:10:27 forget what it is May 11 03:10:29 r134a? May 11 03:10:31 amonea ? May 11 03:10:34 no the OLD fridges May 11 03:10:35 ammonia, yeah May 11 03:10:37 yea, ammonia cycle May 11 03:10:53 kinda blew my mind when i first learned about those. May 11 03:11:00 ME TOO, it's crazy May 11 03:11:17 yeah uive done some "research" ( basically just looking and finding information ) on chilling stuff here in the summer time May 11 03:11:27 lots of peopel out there seems to be making home made system of that type May 11 03:11:32 so your inverteres May 11 03:11:35 are they single phase output? May 11 03:11:46 and you combine them to make 220V split phase ? May 11 03:11:52 or are they just in parallel? May 11 03:11:55 we have one inverter salvages form an ambulance May 11 03:12:02 salvaded* May 11 03:12:04 grr May 11 03:12:10 savaged? May 11 03:12:12 salvaged* May 11 03:12:24 its only 2400W May 11 03:12:24 safewayed? May 11 03:12:26 oh dammit you got it May 11 03:12:27 haha May 11 03:12:47 didn't realize an ambulance needed so much power! May 11 03:12:56 we've been tlakign abotu going 24v nominal May 11 03:13:12 wouldn't that mean all new appliances? May 11 03:13:12 48v bites...24 is nice May 11 03:13:17 but maybe in the future if so we'll need a newer inverter and may go for more wattage May 11 03:13:31 2400W isnt too bad May 11 03:13:36 our inverters put out 277VAC each May 11 03:13:47 so those merge in a wye to make 480V three phase May 11 03:13:48 nice May 11 03:13:57 SilicaGel, why Stinger Voltage? May 11 03:14:06 ah thats Wye May 11 03:14:06 What's stinger? May 11 03:14:16 wirering configuration May 11 03:14:18 right it's a wye configuration, so 277 to neutral make 480V May 11 03:14:23 in open deltas the 277 leg was a stinger May 11 03:14:30 oh May 11 03:14:37 i never heard that term! May 11 03:14:38 208/208/277 May 11 03:15:35 yeah that system definately blows ours away lol May 11 03:15:43 well this is the university sooooooooooooo May 11 03:15:46 but we've gota good amount of power coming in May 11 03:15:49 if i had a system at home it would be much crappier May 11 03:15:52 mostly because i'm a cheapskate May 11 03:16:08 lol you cant cheap out on home RE its a sure path to fail May 11 03:16:56 you can buy good stuff for less though May 11 03:17:09 if you keep and eye out and dont get lazy May 11 03:17:11 or mug an ambulance. May 11 03:17:36 lol my buddy bought it off ebay for $125 May 11 03:17:38 these sunnyboy inverters we have are like $2500 though May 11 03:17:44 sure sure he did. May 11 03:17:48 how much does 5 kw of PV cost you May 11 03:18:16 we have some old ld panels that were free for pickup May 11 03:18:21 1200w or so May 11 03:18:34 24 200W panels i think were aroudn $4000 ? May 11 03:18:52 oh really? huh May 11 03:18:53 $4000-4500 some where in there May 11 03:19:07 morning May 11 03:19:10 interesting May 11 03:19:18 why would anyone spend $4800 on a power system that has a CF of <2% May 11 03:19:25 and they're UL1741 right May 11 03:19:42 morning mranostay May 11 03:19:48 so then the power company has to come and do an inspection/signoff May 11 03:19:52 i wonder if they charge you for that May 11 03:20:07 no grid to us May 11 03:20:14 50k to run poles to us May 11 03:20:15 oh see May 11 03:20:23 holy crap May 11 03:20:26 m_billybob, okay you are the exception May 11 03:20:28 so yeah easy decission May 11 03:20:34 ka6sox: ping? May 11 03:20:46 mrpacket_, pong? May 11 03:20:46 i want a grid tied system but it makes me sad that like those sunny boys or any of the UL1741 compliant stuff you can't even put into a grid independent mode May 11 03:20:59 SilicaGel, I've done it May 11 03:21:02 works fine May 11 03:21:06 ka6sox: he sent me the gerbers May 11 03:21:06 gah. May 11 03:21:07 with what inverters May 11 03:21:15 SilicaGel, lol you could be grid tied, and charge batteries off peak hours, then use batteries during peak May 11 03:21:21 i'm trying to get my beaglebone to get online. atm i've got bone <--> miniusb <--> normal usb <--> host computer, and bone <--> eth <--> host computer connected. pinging a valid web IP results in destination host unreachable. any ideas? May 11 03:21:23 coud'nt sell it to CCO, coud'nt sell it to Sparkfun May 11 03:21:24 yeah sma has an option for that May 11 03:21:25 depending on local that *could* save some money May 11 03:21:30 mrpacket_, interesting... May 11 03:21:32 they call it "sunny island" but it's kind of expensive May 11 03:21:43 very May 11 03:21:51 all for a CF of <2% May 11 03:21:53 ka6sox: but in the end, sent them. Of course, in the mean time, i got on and ordered them May 11 03:22:08 ka6sox: the bcc's anway May 11 03:22:18 mrpacket_, eggcellent May 11 03:22:25 Moult_ you say you can connect via USB TCP/IP ? May 11 03:22:53 sunny island 5000 watt = $4000 May 11 03:22:55 ka6sox: its a bit of a pity becuase i could ahve panelised his logi-bone May 11 03:22:57 plus batteries May 11 03:23:03 so you're in for a $25k system at that point May 11 03:23:04 on the same panel as the BCC May 11 03:23:09 and we coudl ahve had PCB's for both. May 11 03:23:09 m_billybob: i don't think so. at the moment i'm ssh'ing via the eth connection, not the usb May 11 03:23:15 Moult_: you need to share your bone connection with your internet connection. May 11 03:23:21 so, he ( and we? ) all missed out May 11 03:23:28 yup May 11 03:23:37 his loss May 11 03:23:42 PRU_EVTOUT_2: and how do i go about doing that? May 11 03:23:55 Moult_: bridge the adapters, or windows hsari May 11 03:23:56 well, ours as well, but the Spartan3 will provide us with a lot of learning i'm sure. May 11 03:24:18 Moult_: or, use the internet connection sharing option in your os (i think, this assumes bone has dhcp working). May 11 03:24:19 i know that the Bone-phat would have given us a SATA interface May 11 03:24:24 Moult_ or if you've got a router . . . May 11 03:24:25 mrpacket_, this reminds me of 1985 when packet radio first started...looks about the same. May 11 03:24:41 what does? May 11 03:24:53 IRC May 11 03:25:01 nine disjointed converstatons.? May 11 03:25:02 Moult_: i'm talking about getting the internet accessible on the bone over the usb ethernet. May 11 03:25:07 nos> c #beagle May 11 03:25:09 CONNECTED May 11 03:25:15 PRU_EVTOUT_2: i'm talkinga bout FPGA capes May 11 03:25:31 Oh, FPGA cape sounds fun May 11 03:25:35 mrpacket_ seems like lol May 11 03:25:44 SilicaGel: we just ordered 50 PCB's May 11 03:25:50 cool May 11 03:25:51 xilinx? May 11 03:25:56 mrpacket_ Spartan 6 lx150 please ! thanks ;) May 11 03:25:59 yeah, what kind of fpga? May 11 03:26:03 SilicaGel: Spartan 3A May 11 03:26:07 neat May 11 03:26:12 pcbs will be $12 each May 11 03:26:17 m_billybob: a router is the simplest option, but unfortunately my laptop is running off wifi May 11 03:26:18 they are 4 layer May 11 03:26:20 will it be programmable from the bone!? May 11 03:26:22 gold plate May 11 03:26:35 and yes, it does plug into the bone May 11 03:26:36 ooooh May 11 03:26:40 and you can do the programming that way May 11 03:26:42 did you pick fpga loading pins May 11 03:26:48 that you can access from the PRU??? May 11 03:26:52 Moult_ as PRU_EVTOUT_2 said if you're using Windows to connect to it you can do Windows ICS ( internet connection sharing ) May 11 03:27:02 http://ebrombaugh.studionebula.com/embedded/bcc/index.html May 11 03:27:05 m_billybob: nope, i'm on linux May 11 03:27:12 emeb is the guy who designed it May 11 03:27:29 mrpacket that looks really great May 11 03:27:30 Moult_, yeah not sure how thats done but know it is possible May 11 03:27:47 Moult_: just bridge the connections then. May 11 03:27:49 theres about $25-30 of bits you need to buy, to make it work May 11 03:27:53 how many gates on the Spartan 3A ? May 11 03:27:57 200k May 11 03:28:02 ooo May 11 03:28:12 * m_billybob wondering what hash rate it could produce May 11 03:28:46 yeap make my beaglebone work for me ;) May 11 03:28:54 is that robot going to fight your cape ? May 11 03:28:59 sadly due to reasons that we can't discuss, we had a line on a Spartan 6 cabpe May 11 03:28:59 but that went south May 11 03:28:59 and missed the boat May 11 03:28:59 theres about 30 unspoken for PCBS's May 11 03:29:06 dammit May 11 03:29:09 the robot doesn't do anything May 11 03:29:13 boo May 11 03:29:19 the price difference between makign the minimum number of pcbs and 50 was'nt much May 11 03:29:21 Not enough hashes to compete with the Butterfly Labs ASIC prolly May 11 03:29:32 so, i got 50, and hopefuly we get rid of them, and everyone wins. May 11 03:29:35 PRU_EVTOUT_2: what should i search for to bridge the connections? May 11 03:29:41 are you goign to sell them built or bare May 11 03:29:50 just bare pcbs May 11 03:29:52 :-) May 11 03:29:54 "how to bridge connections in " May 11 03:29:56 ah May 11 03:30:03 if i was goign to sell them made up May 11 03:30:08 they woudl be $200+ May 11 03:30:08 PRU_EVTOUT_2: cheers :) May 11 03:30:17 im not in that game May 11 03:30:19 yeah whats a Spartan 3A cost ? May 11 03:30:25 $14 May 11 03:30:31 ah not bad at all May 11 03:30:32 a spartan 3 is pretty old at this point May 11 03:30:34 sorry $12 May 11 03:30:41 yes, it is old May 11 03:30:48 some ofthe 6's upwards of $150 each May 11 03:30:48 but the free tools support it well May 11 03:30:49 SilicaGel, S3A May 11 03:30:57 so not that old May 11 03:31:01 oh May 11 03:31:06 i stand corrected May 11 03:31:10 its not that old at all May 11 03:31:17 because it's an A? May 11 03:31:18 SilicaGel, SPI and GPMC May 11 03:31:21 yes May 11 03:31:37 Xilinx XC3S200AVQ100 Spartan 3A FPGA with 200kgates, 16 Multipliers and 288kb RAM. May 11 03:32:08 i used a spartan 3 some years back, I implemented a specialized uart for J1708 in it May 11 03:32:19 so it is what it is May 11 03:32:24 and theres spare pcbs May 11 03:32:29 so, if anone wahts them May 11 03:32:35 yeah, for hobbyists/students that'd be a lot of fun. May 11 03:33:01 im still new to FPGA . .. May 11 03:33:16 one of the thigns on my todo list May 11 03:33:18 yup, and theres good support for using this with the bealge May 11 03:33:27 yeah May 11 03:33:33 and that fpga is not so complex as to be overwhelming May 11 03:33:44 and the chips are ok for hand assmebly May 11 03:33:45 freetools for that one ? May 11 03:33:47 so, all in all May 11 03:33:51 and yes, free tools May 11 03:33:52 it'd be fun to come up with some labs for it May 11 03:34:03 then try to talk some college professor into making a 1st or 2nd year class out of it May 11 03:34:14 for about $50 and a some time, you can get started May 11 03:34:35 which i think its pretty good. May 11 03:34:55 I have never used an FPGA May 11 03:35:05 so i'm no expert on it at all May 11 03:35:13 i've just taken on getting some PCB's made May 11 03:35:18 me either been reading up on them for a few months though May 11 03:35:27 because at work, we wanted do some experiementation with them May 11 03:35:38 and my new student engineer has just finished a course on them May 11 03:35:43 and is very keen May 11 03:35:50 its his play project May 11 03:36:03 everyone at our work has a 'play project' May 11 03:36:17 we're not allowed to do that where i work May 11 03:36:21 but i'm a very bad employee May 11 03:36:22 very bad May 11 03:36:29 because i have many May 11 03:36:39 i only hire good people May 11 03:36:46 good people need to be looked after May 11 03:36:46 id definately be interrested in a spartan 6 board, but even with those cost is prohibitive unless yo ubuy used FPGAs May 11 03:37:01 the spartan 6 on the other one was about $20 May 11 03:37:09 can't you rob one of those off an ambulance too May 11 03:37:21 ohhh! May 11 03:37:25 !$175 just for the FPGA . . yeah kind of expensive and then the tools depending on which varriant you get arent free May 11 03:37:25 so, it was'nt that cost probibiitve May 11 03:37:45 mrpacket_ the ones i would be interrested in are pretty expensive May 11 03:38:00 m_billybob: quite pssiblity May 11 03:38:10 bed time for me. ZZzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz May 11 03:38:17 i want to say spartan 6 lx150 ? but im not an expert May 11 03:38:21 * SilicaGel Do Not Wake May 11 03:38:34 my interrest would be mining coins, as a hobby but yeah May 11 03:39:02 thats a loosers game May 11 03:39:19 wouldnt be for the money May 11 03:39:29 BITCOIN ALERT!! May 11 03:39:29 can buy an ASIC miner to make money ;) May 11 03:39:53 m_billybob: you mean you can buy an ASCI miner to loose money May 11 03:40:19 well when you're offgrid you can make money ;) May 11 03:40:27 mranostay: where are you oh glorious troll? May 11 03:47:27 mrpacket_: portland where else? May 11 03:47:53 mranostay: at the pub no doubt May 11 03:47:58 not yet May 11 03:48:20 boo OR DMV is not open on the weekends May 11 03:48:27 you'll be needing a FPGA cape won't you May 11 03:48:39 otherwise how will you troll about it. May 11 03:48:45 isn't that a emeb_mac thing? May 11 03:48:59 yup, its emeb's May 11 03:49:08 i just have organised some PCB's May 11 03:49:27 because it takes a hobbit to start a journey May 11 03:50:02 :-) May 11 03:50:10 on the bright side the nearest DMV is two blocks away May 11 03:50:30 there is a Spartan6 on the Controller for my Milling machine May 11 03:52:36 * ds2 throws scooby snacks around May 11 03:55:10 okay the P9_mux_table is done and into JSON... May 11 03:55:29 JSON!? May 11 03:55:33 * ds2 runs screaming May 11 03:55:57 gah.. May 11 03:56:00 ds2, my Son is writing a JS pinmux configurator. May 11 03:56:02 my server has a bug May 11 03:56:12 that I'll be publishing online for usage. May 11 03:56:27 still... json?! May 11 03:56:43 is that a contest of { vs (? May 11 03:56:50 as in js vs lisp? May 11 03:58:12 ds2, he *knows* JS and JSON... May 11 03:58:29 I just want to not have to publish my internal app that I did in FMP May 11 03:59:01 actually, don't TI have a pinmux configurator you can download? May 11 03:59:26 IIRC, it even spits out the includes for uboot and other stuff May 11 04:00:17 this is for DT May 11 04:01:54 emeb_mac: you know of any good pubs near PSU? May 11 04:04:27 mranostay: you tried the one just on the other side of the freeway to the south? May 11 04:05:53 it is part of a motel or hotel or something like that May 11 04:09:36 vague and vague May 11 04:16:06 I got there after getting off Amtrak. Think I took the LRV due south May 11 04:16:10 then walked across the freeway May 11 04:16:24 mranostay: sorry - my database is not up to date. May 11 04:17:03 drop database emeb_mac May 11 04:17:16 heh May 11 04:18:20 is there a way to browse and write files to the BBB graphically using my PC and the USB cable? something like windows explorer? May 11 04:18:43 sshfs? May 11 04:20:02 MC? May 11 04:22:20 i tried downloading the sshfs but I can't seem to open it May 11 04:26:29 * ka6sox wonders if node.js can emulate webdav May 11 04:26:34 mountainman: Maybe you're too loud? May 11 04:26:43 mountainman: It IS sshfs after all ;) May 11 04:26:54 Oh, wait, that'd be "shh". My bad. May 11 04:26:57 Shadyman, groan.... May 11 04:27:07 ka6sox: was that it, do i win a cookie? May 11 04:27:32 if you give a mouse a cookie... May 11 05:40:57 mranostay, how does the cat like the new digs? May 11 05:56:34 Cloud9 quit working after I ran through the guided tour (it had been working the last few days), Now it just seems to have dissapeared - "Chrome could not connect to 192.168.7.2:3000". Any way to fix this? May 11 06:00:36 does devmem2 have access to privileged memory? May 11 06:00:53 mountainman: you need to use internet explorer 5.2. May 11 06:01:29 it was working fine with chrome until about an hour ago though May 11 06:01:49 (i lied) May 11 06:02:25 ...i don't think i know how to spell that word. May 11 06:18:24 [kernel] koenkooi pushed 1 new commit to 3.8: http://git.io/ub1KPg May 11 06:18:24 kernel/3.8 18605ff Koen Kooi: 3.8: add camera cape resetctrl patch and 2 patches to try 1080p on lcdc... May 11 06:32:26 hi all, I've question regarding uart pins on bb black. May 11 06:32:57 trying to connect to laptop via http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006JKNWLE/ref=oh_details_o06_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 May 11 06:34:05 I am connecting black on 1st pin, green on 3rd and yellow on 4th on bb blac. May 11 06:35:19 now on the converter module, USB end goes into laptop but I am confused about the second end which has 6 pins. May 11 06:35:52 not sure which is RXD, TXD and GRD here May 11 06:36:12 hi.. quick question for you all May 11 06:36:37 can anyone suggest a good usb-ethernet adaptor for the beaglebone May 11 06:40:03 test May 11 06:41:06 FAILED. May 11 06:47:43 Russ: what is the maximum resolution you're able to drive from BBB? Just following your post. May 11 06:49:21 sorry, got dropped May 11 06:49:26 can someone guide me? May 11 07:05:56 hari__: it didn't come with a pinout? May 11 07:07:01 hari__: comments of http://www.amazon.com/USB2-0-Converter-Adapter-Chipset-Terminal/dp/B008BZBBR2 May 11 07:07:49 mranostay: g_ethernet :D May 11 07:08:01 err... modprobe g_ethernet May 11 07:08:07 :P May 11 07:09:53 mrpackethead: that was for you, not mranostay. tab complete whoops. May 11 07:10:01 what May 11 07:10:09 shit. May 11 07:10:30 thats cheap as May 11 07:10:49 i meant mrpacket_. apparently he's gone. that's what i get for turning off join/part messages. May 11 07:11:07 ok. time to sleep. May 11 07:11:15 i'm here May 11 07:16:52 I cannot seem to find the beablebone pinout for debug header May 11 07:17:25 it has 6 pins. need to know which one is for tx,rx and gnd May 11 07:18:05 did you check the SRM yet? May 11 07:18:36 <_av500_> its in the schematics May 11 07:18:39 <_av500_> not in the SRM May 11 07:18:43 ic May 11 07:19:57 http://beagleboard.org/Support/Hardware Support - could not find anything here May 11 07:20:14 _av500_: can you please point me to the schematics doc? May 11 07:21:23 I guess, I found the schematic doc May 11 07:23:15 Not able to find debug header info there. May 11 07:23:52 <_av500_> page 4 May 11 07:23:56 <_av500_> on the left May 11 07:25:42 <_av500_> no May 11 07:25:42 <_av500_> ? May 11 07:26:32 yeah May 11 07:26:35 thanks. May 11 07:26:38 4 is RX May 11 07:26:40 5 is TX May 11 07:26:55 1 is gnd? May 11 07:28:47 <_av500_> that is what the schematic says, yes May 11 07:30:26 thanks _av500_ May 11 07:50:21 joel___, dunno, I just let it come up at the default res, which I think was a 720p res May 11 07:51:25 haven't tried to drive it at anything different May 11 07:56:50 hi russ. May 11 08:30:52 Howdy. What would be the best opkg command to remove all X and GUI/Gnome stuff from Angstrom? May 11 08:37:16 how about removing all of Angstrom May 11 08:52:22 there's a thought May 11 08:52:57 just remove the broken parts May 11 08:53:07 oh, that's what you said. ignore me May 11 09:32:48 mrpackethead, edk: Problem is that I found no suitable alternative yet. One which I know that will provide a clean path into the future. Angstrom feels crippled and provides way to few packages but I do like the default nodes.js/bonescript integration. What I did not like was that almost no gpio/analog input scripts work with the new 3.8 kernel. May 11 09:33:03 ericvrp: debian runs no problem May 11 09:37:19 Oke , Will give that a try. It would be nice to stay close to my Raspberry Pi knowledge. Arch I could not install. I tried installing mongodb on Ubuntu and it crashed. Debian next... May 11 09:38:44 mrpackethead: What kernel (uname -a) is Debian on at the moment? No serious problems on the BBB? May 11 09:39:13 no real problems at all. May 11 09:39:34 are you familar with robert nelsons build scripts May 11 09:39:35 ? May 11 10:03:10 mrpackethead: no I'm not. I was (just now) looking at the DebianArm ecosystem. Any suggestions on what site to bookmark for the forum, installation, etc?? May 11 10:03:22 hold a second May 11 10:04:37 http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#Demo_Image May 11 10:04:52 opps May 11 10:04:55 try this May 11 10:04:55 http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardDebian#Demo_Image May 11 10:08:18 thanks May 11 10:10:03 do you boot that of the uSD card or did you put it in eMMC? May 11 10:15:01 mrpackethead: Should the setup_sdcard.sh work on OSX too? May 11 10:15:16 Or should I boot into Angstrom and do this from there? May 11 10:15:20 no it doe'nt May 11 10:27:20 i run mine from anotehr debian machine May 11 10:27:45 you might get it to run from OSX May 11 10:27:47 i've never tryed. May 11 10:27:53 if you do let me know May 11 10:27:57 I use a MBP. May 11 10:33:36 who know how can i use fedora on BBB ? May 11 10:35:13 mrpackethead: status: I've wget debian to /tmp. tar decompressed to eMMC. And now trying... ./setup_sdcard.sh --mmc /dev/mmcblk0 --uboot "bone_dtb" --swap_file 2048 May 11 10:36:34 dependecies missing :-( which so far I was unable to locate in Angstrom. (pv, u-boot-tools) May 11 10:39:04 What does the 'pv' package contain? What's the package called in Angstrom? May 11 10:41:06 no idea May 11 10:41:40 i've alwyas built these on debian systems to start May 11 10:46:52 I'll have a look on my Raspberry Pi... May 11 12:39:03 vcvc May 11 12:40:40 wtf May 11 12:59:04 how come we dont have a -M beaglebone in qemu ? May 11 12:59:28 you didn't send a patch May 11 13:00:12 thats whats so wierd.. me and everyone else didnt send a patch May 11 13:00:45 what would you have it emulate? May 11 13:00:54 accurately emulating the whole thing is _really_ hard May 11 13:00:59 not to mention pointless May 11 13:01:58 at least the cpu and the tilcdc controller, so I can see the graphics on my pc May 11 13:02:10 I see there is a virtual device for tilcdc in qemu May 11 13:02:32 why don't you connect a display to the bone? May 11 13:02:40 I just cant figure out how to connect everything, without using a -M switch, like I do for the beagleboard-xm May 11 13:03:13 mru, I want to be able to develop without the hw, as Im at our summerhouse right now for instance May 11 13:03:26 no beaglebone at hand May 11 13:03:27 the board is quite portable May 11 13:03:48 but also, do user interface verifiction without actual hardware is nice May 11 13:04:40 i definelty wouldnt call it pointless from our p.o.v May 11 13:42:22 <_av500_> jkroon: why do you need qemu to develop an UI? May 11 13:42:25 <_av500_> just do it on your PC May 11 13:43:24 _av500_, yes, thats also an option, but in the end im thinking of emulating everything, our complete machine using qemu May 11 13:44:04 <_av500_> waste of time May 11 13:44:11 <_av500_> bone runs linux, your PC runs linux May 11 13:44:22 <_av500_> the slight HW differences are easily taken care of May 11 13:44:34 _av500_, and im not convinced you will get exactly the same pixel by pixel, running a gtk3 app on beaglebone, or on your laptop with fedora theme overrides etc May 11 13:45:30 <_av500_> oh well May 11 13:45:31 bone is arm, my laptop is x86 May 11 13:45:43 <_av500_> so? May 11 13:45:46 different devices on the bone compared to my pc May 11 13:45:50 <_av500_> you have the source code, no? May 11 13:46:02 yes May 11 13:46:13 <_av500_> of course it ends where you interface to SPI or so May 11 13:46:22 <_av500_> but that is also where your qemu will fail May 11 13:46:28 I can write a qemu spi device May 11 13:46:35 <_av500_> or you spend all your time fixing the emulation May 11 13:46:42 connecting one qemu simulated machine with another May 11 13:47:00 ? May 11 13:47:18 qemu is pretty good, and bugfree, no ? May 11 13:47:42 <_av500_> of course May 11 13:47:49 <_av500_> like all SW May 11 13:48:13 I simulated our previous x86 machine in qemu succesfully May 11 13:48:31 got it talking to "virtual" slaves via i2c May 11 13:48:46 without using any hw May 11 13:48:51 <_av500_> sure, if thta suits your needs, go ahead May 11 13:49:29 being able to develop without any hw seems like a nice idea, at least to me May 11 13:50:05 <_av500_> sure May 11 13:50:15 <_av500_> but as said, most of that can be done without qemu May 11 14:01:36 i cant see a way of running unmodified code any other way May 11 14:02:27 <_av500_> unodofied, no May 11 14:02:31 <_av500_> unmodified May 11 14:02:37 <_av500_> slightly modified, yes May 11 14:02:53 <_av500_> but you have an arm and x86 build anyway May 11 14:03:26 yes, running a gtk on native x86 is a hell of a lot faster than arm+qemu :-) May 11 14:03:42 if the thing is sanely structured, you should be able to run the UI unmodified on anything May 11 14:03:53 just put a fake backend underneath it May 11 14:04:16 <_av500_> yep May 11 14:04:17 ui is one thing May 11 14:04:27 <_av500_> you can fake or replace many things May 11 14:04:32 but i wanna simulate everything :-D May 11 14:04:44 you can fake peripherals too without doing full spi emulation May 11 14:04:47 virtual sensors n'stuff May 11 14:05:28 <_av500_> also, running your code on an 8 threaded i7 exposes nice bugs you'Äd never have seen o nthe single core ARM :) May 11 14:06:00 <_av500_> and vice versa, btw May 11 14:06:01 sure, running in as many possible ways is good May 11 15:19:25 gm May 11 15:20:12 mg May 11 16:59:06 i hv created latest angstrom os for beagle bone but i could not find omap_mux directory ,where is it May 11 16:59:34 big day for me. this is off topic but i'm going to tell you anyway. May 11 16:59:49 before: http://bit.ly/10Dr8rc May 11 17:00:00 after: http://bit.ly/10Dr76w May 11 17:00:33 Now it's off to the childhood leukemia foundation where hopefully it will make some little kid's day a little brighter May 11 17:01:18 So I see we're still doing this netsplit thing. That's fun. May 11 17:03:50 when i do echo 1 > value, for gpio44 i get echo: write error: Operation not permitted anybody know why? May 11 17:07:02 sf1111: perhaps you should do 'sudo echo 1 > value' ? May 11 17:16:31 yeah, you probably need to be root. May 11 17:51:41 any try to update a Beaglebone black? May 11 19:00:15 hello Stans **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat May 11 19:04:45 2013 May 11 19:09:32 * mranostay peers out at the weirdness May 11 19:10:11 does the weirdness peer back? May 11 19:10:19 yes May 11 19:10:39 where is my unicycling darth vader playing bagpipes? May 11 19:11:24 heh OR allows onliine voting.. nice.. May 11 19:11:52 here: http://youtu.be/m8rzkCkFIus May 11 19:30:37 SO ive sucessfully compiled console-image, what should be my next learnign step as far as openembedded goes ? May 11 19:31:09 vacation to Jamaica, to perfect your waterskiiing. May 11 19:32:14 lol i was thinking more along the lines of learnign openembedded but if you want to send me, sure ;) May 11 19:33:01 downloading the user manual now May 11 19:34:01 mranostay: how does that work? email a photo of the ballot on a wooden table? May 11 20:03:43 If anyone's around, I'm trying to get emulate the xM with Arch Linux ARM. Having a lot of difficulties.....help? May 11 20:03:58 *trying to emulate the xM with Arch Linux ARM, via QEMU May 11 20:04:08 why are you emulating it? May 11 20:04:26 I don't physically have it with me, one of my group members owns it. May 11 20:04:32 buy another May 11 20:04:50 Sorry man, but I can't do that at the moment. Any other suggestions? May 11 20:05:31 how much is your time worth? May 11 20:05:49 I'm not sure I understand the question May 11 20:06:54 getting a real board would cost you $150 May 11 20:08:33 Yeah, that's why I'm trying to emulate it until I can pick up the board from my group member. May 11 20:09:15 Do you know offhand which is the latest Linaro img that supports the xM? May 11 20:09:17 <_av500_> what do you want to emulate? May 11 20:09:23 <_av500_> the dssp? May 11 20:09:23 how long have you spent trying to emulate it? May 11 20:09:24 <_av500_> dsp May 11 20:09:27 <_av500_> the ISP? May 11 20:09:28 more than an hour? May 11 20:09:32 <_av500_> the SGX? May 11 20:09:34 Beagleboard xM rev C, the board itself May 11 20:10:08 and yes, about 3+ hours, I already have a bash script set up to create the SD card images, but USB and clock goes wonky during QEMU boot May 11 20:10:31 see, that's $500 in time already May 11 20:10:41 <_av500_> Newspeak: usb is known to be wonky on the omap3 May 11 20:10:46 <_av500_> so the emulation is pretty good May 11 20:10:49 :) May 11 20:10:56 bizzare, i woke up and there was no email May 11 20:11:12 <_av500_> mrpackethead: I had that once too, then I really woke up May 11 20:12:04 mru, I wish I had $500, sitting around, but unfortunately, I don't May 11 20:12:30 what do you need for $500 May 11 20:12:40 if you'd just bought the board already, you could've been billing for those hours you spent fussing over qemu May 11 20:12:53 then you'd have $500 May 11 20:13:24 what do you use a beagleboard XM for anway? May 11 20:13:30 <_av500_> cool stuff May 11 20:13:41 Senior design project, running face and text recognition via OpenCV/Tesseract May 11 20:13:41 <_av500_> some people detect green May 11 20:14:03 <_av500_> Newspeak: and you need qemu to run openCV? May 11 20:14:12 it's a device that's supposed to improve the environmental awareness of blind people, by narrating their immediate environment to them via bone conduction May 11 20:14:20 mrpackethead: the xm does things the blackbone can't do May 11 20:14:41 better graphics May 11 20:14:47 and dsp May 11 20:14:48 naw, I just need to be able to emulate the xM, with whatever OS, so I can start performance tuning my code on the actual embedded system it's supposed to go on May 11 20:14:52 <_av500_> and wonky musb AND EHCI May 11 20:15:06 the xm ehci is ok May 11 20:15:08 <_av500_> Newspeak: for that you dont need a full emulation May 11 20:15:19 <_av500_> mru: try usb suspend May 11 20:15:33 <_av500_> Newspeak: for that you need just the simple "qemu run this app" mode May 11 20:15:44 do you need even that? May 11 20:15:45 what i'd really like is to be able to get to the second ethernet port May 11 20:15:56 <_av500_> mrpackethead: fine drill, steady hand May 11 20:15:56 just build it for whatever and run it May 11 20:16:10 i must ahve a look at the pin mux May 11 20:16:14 i dont' think its possible May 11 20:16:16 but... May 11 20:16:24 <_av500_> it was not a design goal May 11 20:16:55 woudl have been great to have been able to bring it out on the I/O May 11 20:17:01 mmm, I'll take a look, I'm still rusty on emulation, let alone command-line skills May 11 20:17:08 create a 2nd port on a cape May 11 20:17:19 then you have a two port device May 11 20:17:30 thats useful for lots fo thigns i do. May 11 20:17:52 and the irony of it all is that I've spent the last few days hacking on qemu... May 11 20:18:02 <_av500_> and that a 20$ router cannot? May 11 20:18:13 thats right, that a $20 router cannot do May 11 20:18:26 <_av500_> mru: they put you on useful work? May 11 20:18:41 I doubt *I* will ever use it... May 11 20:19:16 if you coudl get to the 2nd ethernet port May 11 20:19:19 you coudl do interesting thigns May 11 20:19:36 you could string beaglebones together, daisy chained style May 11 20:19:45 connecting them through the internal switch May 11 20:19:47 what the hell for? May 11 20:20:06 that topology is very attractive for some applicaitons. May 11 20:20:12 <_av500_> mru: christmas lights May 11 20:20:23 for implementing token ring over ethernet, perhaps May 11 20:20:31 its how ethercat works May 11 20:20:45 daisy chained May 11 20:20:53 * _av500_ wants ethermouse May 11 20:20:57 many many factorys automation control is build this way May 11 20:21:25 fast ethernet is a point-to-point link May 11 20:21:27 but actually, i'm much more interested in doing protocol conversion May 11 20:21:34 using it to emulate a bus topology is inefficient May 11 20:23:18 I'm quitely looking at usb-> ethernet adaptors to get a second port hat way May 11 20:23:31 however i might just find another bit of hardware that has the ports inbuilt May 11 20:25:05 ham radio exam at 8p finally some sanity May 11 20:25:10 <_av500_> mrpackethead: that 20$ router :) May 11 20:25:32 a $20 router unlikey is suitble May 11 20:25:38 <_av500_> mrpackethead: a coworker is trying to convert me too May 11 20:25:50 mranostay: aren't you a bit young to be a radio ham? May 11 20:26:14 mru: your point is? May 11 20:26:20 you need a ham licnece to be on #beagle? May 11 20:26:39 mranostay: do I need to have a point? May 11 20:26:46 internet kill the ham radio star... ah aha ah... May 11 20:26:57 <_av500_> mru: a point at the end of a pointy stick May 11 20:27:14 <_av500_> mrpackethead: not killed, they use it exclusively now May 11 20:27:36 well, folks May 11 20:27:37 _av500_: I'll have to see my dealer (prpplague) about those May 11 20:27:39 its american food day May 11 20:27:52 which part of america? May 11 20:27:58 all of america May 11 20:28:00 <_av500_> and are you sure its food? May 11 20:28:06 your national dish May 11 20:28:17 Spare Ribs May 11 20:28:33 _av500_: there's some great food to be had in america May 11 20:28:39 mru: where? May 11 20:28:59 sure beats british food May 11 20:29:10 mranostay: have you even been to britain? May 11 20:29:14 i've been there a lot of times, and mostly lucked out. May 11 20:29:15 no May 11 20:29:16 :-) May 11 20:29:45 Chicago was ok May 11 20:29:51 its nice. May 11 20:30:02 lol. May 11 20:30:07 British food is extreme May 11 20:30:14 the american south has some good traditional cooking May 11 20:30:19 its either extreely good, or extremely bad. May 11 20:30:50 they're nuts in just about every other way though May 11 20:31:35 <_av500_> mru: cant be the food May 11 20:31:38 <_av500_> must be in the water May 11 20:36:24 <_av500_> looks like Google is set out to constanlty remind me of the products I ordered last week May 11 20:37:20 ordered from google? May 11 20:37:38 case of german sauages? May 11 20:39:31 I really hate my project partner. I mean, who on earth seriously puts Arch on his xM and then goes AWOL when I'm trying to performance test my code on it? May 11 20:39:35 A sadist, that's who May 11 20:40:11 Newspeak: its good practice for when you get a real job in teh real world May 11 20:40:15 so get your own xm May 11 20:40:21 or at least your own sd card May 11 20:40:48 why do I need a 4 GB SD card to flash 2 GB of data to the BeagleBone Black? May 11 20:40:50 Can't do it now, at least, project's due in 6 days May 11 20:40:53 fml May 11 20:41:04 I really hate the fact that the beaglebone come with some rediculus os. May 11 20:41:10 but i dont' complain ( much ) about it. May 11 20:41:15 i just fix it! May 11 20:42:53 can Angstrom be self-updated over the internet or something not involving the 4 GB SD card image? May 11 20:43:21 _av500_: what does a troll order i wonder May 11 20:44:12 mranostay: hobbit-burger May 11 20:45:20 <_av500_> yum May 11 20:45:31 <_av500_> well, it keeps showing me ads for exactly what I bought May 11 20:45:49 <_troll_> omnomnom May 11 20:45:50 <_av500_> and there is no "yes, it arrived" checkbox on them May 11 20:46:34 like on amazon's suggestions? May 11 20:46:45 <_av500_> yeah May 11 20:46:55 <_av500_> I get amazon ads too May 11 20:47:17 <_av500_> funny thing is, I notice these ads much more than the random ones May 11 20:47:23 <_av500_> which my brain filters out May 11 20:47:28 <_av500_> but, they are useless May 11 20:48:14 <_av500_> idiots messed up gimp May 11 20:48:28 what now? May 11 20:48:39 <_av500_> open a png, edit it, hit save May 11 20:48:46 <_av500_> mandatory xcf now May 11 20:48:50 <_av500_> png is "export" May 11 20:49:01 it' s kinda silly, May 11 20:49:08 mandatory xcf? May 11 20:49:13 <_av500_> so you export, and then close and have to "discard changes" May 11 20:49:18 <_av500_> yes May 11 20:49:22 once a decade purchases sticking you with ads for the next month May 11 20:49:43 I had not noticed May 11 20:49:55 unless you made an edit that really can't be saved in full May 11 20:50:00 like adding layers May 11 20:50:37 but then nothing useful seems to have happened to gimp in the last 10 years or so May 11 20:50:39 <_av500_> "...You can use this dialog to save to the GIMP XCF format. Use File→Export to export to other file formats...." May 11 20:50:46 <_av500_> thts for CTRL-S May 11 20:50:55 <_av500_> when editing the extension May 11 20:51:13 <_av500_> so, they noticed my intention May 11 20:51:17 <_av500_> they know of the problem May 11 20:51:21 <_av500_> but they just send me away May 11 20:51:21 I don't use gimp much these days May 11 20:51:32 <_av500_> mru: I use it mostly to crop stuff May 11 20:51:44 <_av500_> open, crop, safe May 11 20:52:01 <_av500_> well, now open, crop, export, close and confirm not to safe the friggin xcf May 11 20:52:08 <_av500_> idiots May 11 20:52:41 <_av500_> its like open office that when you open a .doc wants to save as .odp May 11 20:52:53 <_av500_> because nothing can go wrong there May 11 20:53:31 oh boy the barber shop next to be has a mix of 1 and 5 star reviews May 11 20:53:46 what annoys me with all those 'office' apps is that if you just open something and immediately close it, it still insists on saving some mysterious 'changes' May 11 20:53:59 <_av500_> yes May 11 20:54:03 <_av500_> you moved the cursor May 11 20:54:13 <_av500_> in excel, you change the cell in focus May 11 20:54:23 msword used to store printer settings in the document May 11 20:54:27 <_av500_> of course May 11 20:54:31 and apply the local ones whenever you open a doc May 11 20:54:37 _av500_: i wish you were joking May 11 20:55:07 <_av500_> mranostay: I rarely do May 11 20:56:34 <_av500_> http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/91 May 11 20:59:35 <_av500_> I do hope the gnome people leave transparency in gimp at least... May 11 21:00:10 hmm my last paycheck didn't arrive May 11 21:00:28 * mranostay make note to poke his former employer May 11 21:01:11 I hope you mean cheque figuratively May 11 21:01:13 <_av500_> mranostay: you left, why should they? May 11 21:01:37 mru: actually last check for most companies is a paper one May 11 21:01:37 <_av500_> mranostay: did you even return the stapler? May 11 21:01:49 _av500_: CA state and federal law :) May 11 21:01:52 <_av500_> mranostay: see what good that does you May 11 21:02:03 <_av500_> got blown away May 11 21:02:16 mranostay: wtf May 11 21:02:35 mru: but yes i do direct deposit May 11 21:02:38 <_av500_> I thought the paper cheque is for the added drama of tearing it up - in movies May 11 21:02:59 mru: basically the only paper cheques i write are for rent May 11 21:03:08 WTF?!!?! May 11 21:03:12 <_av500_> +1 May 11 21:03:32 although this place allows bank drafts so goodbye to that May 11 21:03:35 <_av500_> do you pay by the hour? May 11 21:04:03 <_av500_> though these take cash usually May 11 21:04:34 cute May 11 21:04:39 paying cash occasionally has advantages May 11 21:04:59 especially coins May 11 21:05:04 they don't have serial numbers May 11 21:05:08 _av500_: i live in a real apartment May 11 21:05:58 I thought everything in the US was fake May 11 21:06:12 <_av500_> mru: the laundromat, last bastion of privacy May 11 21:06:28 oh reminds me to load the dryer May 11 21:06:31 <_av500_> mru: Disneyland is real May 11 21:06:53 _av500_: I sometimes pay for beer with coins May 11 21:07:52 seeing as a pint is usually about £3 here May 11 21:08:07 pay for beer with quarters yeah that will go over well May 11 21:08:16 we have a 1$ coin nobdy uses May 11 21:08:23 we have £1 and £2 coins May 11 21:09:13 <_av500_> mranostay: 1$ coins are nice to scam the mint out of frequent traveler miles May 11 21:09:55 cash denominations in europe usually follow a logical 1 2 5 progression May 11 21:10:19 <_av500_> threpence May 11 21:10:54 <_av500_> ah, you said europe May 11 21:13:26 _av500_: eh? May 11 21:18:50 <_av500_> mranostay: you used to get a mile for every $ you ordered in coins May 11 21:18:52 <_av500_> people ordered thousands on CC May 11 21:19:04 <_av500_> and then turned them in at a bank May 11 21:19:13 <_av500_> rinse, repeat May 11 21:19:17 <_av500_> mile mining May 11 21:20:09 _av500_: oh right May 11 21:20:44 they put a stop to that :) May 11 21:20:44 <_av500_> yes, now 1$ coins are useless again :) **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat May 11 21:26:04 2013 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat May 11 22:32:27 2013 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat May 11 22:39:20 2013 May 11 22:39:27 three beers over the concast call May 11 22:49:50 hi mdp May 11 22:59:17 what do the teletype devices ttyGS0, O0 and S0-3 connect to, S0-3 i suppose are HW serial ports but what are the other two May 11 23:24:00 Anyone have a resource on serial connections for the BBB? My google fu is failing me May 11 23:24:20 xterm: using an FTDI cable? May 11 23:25:00 I have a USB to TTL with a 4 pin cable May 11 23:27:02 Just need to know which 4 pins to use May 11 23:27:19 xterm: http://www.adafruit.com/index.php?main_page=popup_image_additional&pID=954&pic=0&products_image_large_additional=images/large/954bbb_LRG.jpg May 11 23:27:48 vvu, reading now, Thanks! May 11 23:28:18 xterm: anytime, had the same issue as you. the SRM did not tell me too much and found this link couple of days ago May 11 23:28:20 lol nvm pictures says a thousand words May 11 23:28:26 :) May 11 23:33:20 how do i enable the ethernet PHY from a plain debian rootfs May 11 23:33:56 [ 232.594662] net eth0: initializing cpsw version 1.12 (0) [ 232.601949] libphy: PHY 4a101000.mdio:00 not found [ 232.606961] net eth0: phy 4a101000.mdio:00 not found on slave 0 [ 232.613150] libphy: PHY 4a101000.mdio:01 not found [ 232.618157] net eth0: phy 4a101000.mdio:01 not found on slave 1 May 12 00:08:31 vvu: Are you still here? May 12 00:08:37 xterm: yes May 12 00:18:37 vvu: +1 helpfulness point for you! May 12 00:19:01 xterm: anytime May 12 00:21:54 I am so tired of reading data sheets May 12 00:49:28 Digital_Warrior: i'm tired of writing them May 12 00:49:56 mrpackethead: you stop then I can. May 12 01:02:16 Digital_Warrior: it's good learning! May 12 01:12:50 how do I configure pin modes on beaglebone black for uart, under angstrom? before I would just issue "echo 0x8020 > /sys/kernel/debug/omap_mux/uart1_rxd" in a startup script, but omap_mux no longer exsits... May 12 01:13:15 wickedshell: You can dig around in the bonescript repo and get some idea how it all works May 12 01:13:19 There's a link I found... May 12 01:13:20 * shapr digs May 12 01:14:17 wickedshell: https://github.com/alexanderhiam/PyBBIO/issues/18 May 12 01:18:53 shapr, thanks May 12 01:20:21 wickedshell: I realize that's meta-info, but I hope it helps May 12 01:21:10 somewhat :) puzzling through it, had really been hoping to just drop the BeagleBone Black in to my previous beaglebone application with no changes but that was misguided :D May 12 01:45:40 Has anyone seen a boot error stating that there is an issue with the EEPROM or the EEPROM contents? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun May 12 02:59:59 2013