**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jun 11 02:59:58 2013
Jun 11 03:04:04 <m_billybob> sure, hold your breathe :P
Jun 11 03:39:17 <mranostay> bugs!
Jun 11 03:40:34 <ssi> they're all over me
Jun 11 03:49:45 <solrize> is there any serious obstacle to making a bbone-like board that uses laptop or server ram and has lots of it?   like preferably 32gb or 64gb.  application is a small, low powered redis server.  those don't need much cpu, they're just pure ram.
Jun 11 03:55:12 <ds2> redis server?
Jun 11 04:05:07 <wednesday> has anyone got a ubuntu 12 or 13 to work with the bbb?
Jun 11 04:07:53 <wednesday> well the ssh ins't open nor is port 80
Jun 11 04:15:15 <m_billybob> anyone know much about the bbb serial debug line ? e.g. can it deal with 9600 BUAD ?
Jun 11 04:15:33 <m_billybob> I've set uEnv.txt according but getting no output
Jun 11 04:16:33 <russell--> m_billybob: it's 115200 afaik
Jun 11 04:17:09 <m_billybob> russell-- i am attempting to connect a device to it that can only deal with 9600 buad but i have also set that value in uEnv.txt
Jun 11 04:18:08 <ds2> AFAIK, it has a baud rate generator
Jun 11 04:18:23 <ds2> how do you know it is not at 9600?
Jun 11 04:18:37 <m_billybob> look like no msp430 launchpad v1.5 love for me . ..
Jun 11 04:18:43 <m_billybob> i dont i just know its not working
Jun 11 04:19:06 <m_billybob> i have the pins connected right i am pretty sure
Jun 11 04:19:13 <russell--> "pretty sure"
Jun 11 04:19:18 <m_billybob> could be maybe im not getting good contact
Jun 11 04:19:31 <m_billybob> russell-- im dahm near possitive
Jun 11 04:19:54 <m_billybob> I tool long enough double checked everything asked a couple people etc etc to make sure
Jun 11 04:19:57 * russell-- has discovered that when it comes to electronics, it pays to be sure
Jun 11 04:20:31 <russell--> there are multiple uarts, which one are you using?
Jun 11 04:21:33 <m_billybob> the 6 pin debug consol and console=ttyO0,9600n8
Jun 11 04:22:19 <russell--> and what are you connecting to it?
Jun 11 04:23:00 <m_billybob> msp430 launchpad with onboard ftdi. MCU is disabled as far as ttl lines go
Jun 11 04:23:18 <m_billybob> ( v1.5)
Jun 11 04:23:36 <russell--> have you used it successfully with anything else?
Jun 11 04:23:49 <russell--> i mean, so you can see it's getting output, etc
Jun 11 04:25:02 <russell--> and, why are you stuck with 9600?
Jun 11 04:25:43 <m_billybob> its a launchpad thing
Jun 11 04:26:00 <m_billybob> effectively TI is runnign two "port" over one USB interface
Jun 11 04:29:14 <m_billybob> one SBW jtag, and another slower uart
Jun 11 04:30:10 <mranostay> ds2: btw you weren't kidding about the metalized windows db loss..
Jun 11 04:31:13 <mrpackethead> 14 week lead time for fuses.
Jun 11 04:31:16 <mrpackethead> Rrugh!!!
Jun 11 04:32:06 <mranostay> mrpackethead: what magic fuses are these?
Jun 11 04:32:23 <mrpackethead> schuter 3.15A Surface mount fuses
Jun 11 04:32:31 <mrpackethead> they come with clips
Jun 11 04:32:42 <mrpackethead> you place the fuse and clip simulateously
Jun 11 04:32:50 <mrpackethead> but the fuse is replaceble
Jun 11 04:32:53 <mrpackethead> after placmetn
Jun 11 04:42:13 <solrize> ds2, http://redis.io  -- sort of a successor to memcached
Jun 11 04:55:48 <m_billybob> russell--, for what its worth i connected the wires in the wrong place.
Jun 11 04:56:17 <m_billybob> two sides to the board, fet side and MCU side i did everytign right except where i connected the jumpers
Jun 11 04:56:24 <russell--> nice!
Jun 11 04:56:30 <russell--> so it works now?
Jun 11 04:56:37 <m_billybob> i havent gotten to it yet
Jun 11 04:56:53 <m_billybob> im sure it'll work once i get this done
Jun 11 04:57:32 <m_billybob> theres a jumper for RX /TX, and the way i have to connect them i have to redo my launchpad side of the header. because they're catty corner
Jun 11 04:58:00 * m_billybob wanders off to see what he has "in stock" here
Jun 11 05:08:16 * work2heat waves to the good people at beagle
Jun 11 05:16:22 <av500> ahoi
Jun 11 05:18:03 <emeb_mac> avast!
Jun 11 05:19:19 <ka6sox> arrrr
Jun 11 05:19:39 <work2heat> r u guys familiar with project meshnet?
Jun 11 05:20:43 <av500> meshnets make me cringe
Jun 11 05:20:58 <work2heat> basically, I've got one of these MacBooks, and I want a linux machine to play with, so I'm thinking beagle bone or pi, but I'd like to know more about how they compare with respect to use as a pc, and, for example, in networking...
Jun 11 05:21:01 <work2heat> oh no, why is that?!
Jun 11 05:23:20 <ka6sox> work2heat, its a cheap linux box...
Jun 11 05:23:26 <ka6sox> but its not a desktop replacement
Jun 11 05:23:55 <work2heat> well i don't really need a real desktop, i don't think.  i don't care to have a browser or any applications i didn't compile and build myself..
Jun 11 05:24:35 <work2heat> just wondering what kind of thing i wouldn't be able to do (I'm not trying to step outside the terminal…), and how the two compare
Jun 11 05:24:44 <mranostay> dm8tbr: you were right. i own you a case of av500's beer
Jun 11 05:26:07 <dm8tbr> mranostay: mhehe
Jun 11 05:27:55 <av500> ???
Jun 11 05:28:25 <mranostay> av500: sorry i bet you beer
Jun 11 05:28:26 <mranostay> *your
Jun 11 05:35:34 <ka6sox> work2heat, it should work just fine for those kinds of apps
Jun 11 05:36:12 <work2heat> figured as much .  any outstanding reasons to go for a beagle bone over raspberry?  I'm about to buy a raspberry with bit coin and i really like that...
Jun 11 05:37:08 <dm8tbr> depends what you want to achieve
Jun 11 05:37:22 <dm8tbr> if you want to do video playback, the rpi is prime choice
Jun 11 05:37:43 <work2heat> i don't care too much for video playback.  i have a mac for that
Jun 11 05:37:52 <sh1v> but the BB has a lot more ports to play with-- more serial lines,etc
Jun 11 05:38:01 <sh1v> faster too
Jun 11 05:38:06 <dm8tbr> then there is no reason for an rpi
Jun 11 05:38:20 <work2heat> can i buy a beagle bone with bit coin anywhere?!
Jun 11 05:38:21 <dm8tbr> the rpi is basically a multimedia decoder that happens to have an ARM core
Jun 11 05:39:07 <m_billybob> russell-- success !!!
Jun 11 05:39:40 <m_billybob> [    8.888087] console [ttyO0] enabled
Jun 11 05:39:41 <m_billybob> [    8.930791] [sched_delayed] sched: RT throttling activated
Jun 11 05:39:44 <work2heat> neat.  so i really am looking for a beagle bone.  i just don't know where/how to buy one.  is it possible to from somewhere with bit coin?
Jun 11 05:41:11 <dm8tbr> no idea
Jun 11 05:43:23 <pru_evtou> go open office. svg support: absolutely broken. wmf support: perfect.
Jun 11 05:43:45 <pru_evtou> work2heat: sure, exchange your bitcoin for cash! :D
Jun 11 05:44:29 <work2heat> lol no fuck that.  I don't like dollars.  Dollars are bad for you (like most meat).  I'm trying to be a cryptotarian...
Jun 11 05:44:41 <dm8tbr> try euros then
Jun 11 05:51:28 <work2heat> lol same feeling.  i wana do this all in crypto.
Jun 11 05:56:22 <mastiff_> Is it normal not to be able to connect with ethernet over usb when using DC power?
Jun 11 05:58:38 <m_billybob> Curious i was just wondering if it is not possible to connect via ethernet when having a ttl device connected to the serial debug interface
Jun 11 05:58:55 <m_billybob> because it just happened to me
Jun 11 05:59:51 <av500> I would cry too if it happened to me
Jun 11 05:59:51 <m_billybob> mastiff_ for what it is worth i was able to connect via USB g-ether when i first got my board
Jun 11 06:00:07 <m_billybob> powered via USB too
Jun 11 06:01:35 <mastiff_> Yeah I can connect fine with usb over ethernet when powered by USB, but when I boot with DC power connected, it appears to boot normally based on LEDs, but can't SSH in via usb ethernet.
Jun 11 06:02:16 <mastiff_> But another guy running debian says he can.  Maybe more angstrom manure.
Jun 11 06:02:20 <emeb_mac> av500: is it your party?
Jun 11 06:11:31 <av500> emeb_mac: +1
Jun 11 06:18:43 <KotH> JIHAD!
Jun 11 06:18:50 <KotH> and good morning :)
Jun 11 06:19:25 <m_billybob> and a wonderful JIHAD to you too KotH
Jun 11 06:19:54 <m_billybob> feel good about meself today, did somethign semi geeky.
Jun 11 06:26:48 * KotH hands m_billybob a chocolate han solo
Jun 11 06:27:29 <arunkd13> has anyone used the USB host on the beagle bone black?
Jun 11 06:29:53 <av500> I have
Jun 11 06:32:50 <dm8tbr> but can it do fullhd webcam opencv‽
Jun 11 06:33:22 <russell--> m_billybob: awesome
Jun 11 06:34:26 <russell--> dm8tbr: try, and find out?
Jun 11 06:34:33 <mastiff_> yes, have used USB host for a devices
Jun 11 06:35:18 <mranostay> emeb_mac: /win 6
Jun 11 06:35:22 <mranostay> gah gah
Jun 11 06:36:15 <m_billybob> chocolate han solo ?
Jun 11 06:36:28 <m_billybob> not complaining but that came out of left field lol
Jun 11 06:36:52 <russell--> http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/ea87/
Jun 11 06:37:16 <m_billybob> ahahaha ok
Jun 11 06:37:24 <arunkd13> mastiff_, I figured out from the mailing list (google groups) that the USB host port does not detect hotplugging of devices...
Jun 11 06:37:26 <emeb_mac> mranostay: say what?
Jun 11 06:37:53 <arunkd13> ...this is the default angstrom distribution that comes with the device
Jun 11 06:38:12 <mastiff_> Yes, I'm aware of that.
Jun 11 06:38:30 <arunkd13> does it work with any other distribution?
Jun 11 06:38:32 <arunkd13> ubuntu?
Jun 11 06:38:45 <russell--> no way is that leia
Jun 11 06:38:47 <mranostay> emeb_mac: oh nothing
Jun 11 06:39:05 <mastiff_> Not sure, I've only used angstrom so far, but I'm flashing debian on BBB #2 right now.
Jun 11 06:39:07 <av500> leia on chocolate?
Jun 11 06:39:11 <av500> in*
**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jun 11 06:41:24 2013
Jun 11 06:41:43 <mastiff_> m_billybob: question was if usb hot swapping works on any distro
Jun 11 06:41:53 <m_billybob> ah my bad
Jun 11 06:42:04 <m_billybob> no hotpluggin on USB is a kernel issue
Jun 11 06:42:07 <m_billybob> not yet resolved
Jun 11 06:42:28 <mranostay> USB itself is a issue not yet resolved :)
Jun 11 06:42:44 <arunkd13> :-(
Jun 11 06:43:16 <m_billybob> well technically when the planets all in alignment at the rigth time of day . . . you can sometimes hotplug once.
Jun 11 06:43:34 <mranostay> you clearly need more dead chickens
Jun 11 06:43:40 <arunkd13> i am trying to get an RS485 to USB converter working on the BBB... I can live with detecting on bootup for now I think
Jun 11 06:43:54 <m_billybob> mranostay, but i said all of the words, mostly.
Jun 11 06:45:37 <mranostay> holy #@$#@ another person using the PRU wrong
Jun 11 06:46:01 <m_billybob> did they burn their house down with it ?
Jun 11 06:46:17 <mranostay> no toggling GPIOs....
Jun 11 06:46:44 <m_billybob> eh ?! whats wrogn with that ? I mean its crazy to twiddle GPIO bits these days isnt it ?
Jun 11 06:46:49 <mastiff_> that are connected to a relay powering a fuel pump
Jun 11 06:47:50 <mranostay> that using the PRU correctly
Jun 11 06:47:58 <m_billybob> mastiff_ except GPIO ^= BITx; would be more efective.
Jun 11 06:48:01 <mranostay> screw it.. off to the x86 world :P
Jun 11 06:50:31 <mastiff_> nah, PWM for fuel pump.  GPIO to relay for bilge pump
Jun 11 06:51:11 <m_billybob> maybe but PWMing a relay is such a waste
Jun 11 06:51:58 <mastiff_> no relay between PWM and fuel pump
Jun 11 06:52:05 <_Sy_> hello and good morning :)
Jun 11 06:52:21 <m_billybob> morning _Sy_ see yo ugot your setup working
Jun 11 06:52:32 <m_billybob> gratz
Jun 11 06:52:35 <_Sy_> yes, finally, very happy with it, ty
Jun 11 06:52:51 <_Sy_> finally I can start on my project(s)
Jun 11 06:53:21 <m_billybob> i cheated, i just setup Linaro toolchain on Win7 ;)
Jun 11 06:54:18 <_Sy_> Are the beaglebone capes compatible with the beagebone black ?
Jun 11 06:54:28 <m_billybob> seems most are
Jun 11 06:54:41 <m_billybob> theres a wifi cape i think thats not compatible
Jun 11 06:55:03 <_Sy_> I'm looking for a battery backup
Jun 11 06:55:05 <m_billybob> there is a list somewhere though, i think on ewiki
Jun 11 06:55:31 <m_billybob> battery backup ? why not just power via battery ?
Jun 11 06:55:59 <m_billybob> power by battery, charge battery. etc.
Jun 11 06:56:10 <_Sy_> I want to power via mains normally and if that drops out then have the battery as a backup...until power comes back...like a UPS
Jun 11 06:56:28 <m_billybob> right, exactly what i jus tsaid ;)
Jun 11 06:57:16 <_Sy_> Is there a CAPE suitable or would I just use a micro UPS?
Jun 11 06:58:04 <m_billybob> Dont know of any capes forthat purpose, myself I would build a charger to charge a 12v then do dc/dc to the bbb
Jun 11 06:58:47 <m_billybob> someone on the groups mentioned some fancy USB charger thing that costs liek $130 usd . . . kind of pricy
Jun 11 06:59:37 <m_billybob> another person mentioned using a 12v 12aH battery then dc/dc like i jus tmentioned, he said it woudl last like 4 days takign pictures onceevery ten minutes
Jun 11 06:59:42 <_Sy_> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PicoUPS-120w-DC-Micro-UPS-Battery-Backup-System-for-Car-/230646887026
Jun 11 06:59:47 <_Sy_> this kind of thing would do
Jun 11 07:01:14 <russell--> my car already has a backup system!
Jun 11 07:01:17 <m_billybob> yeah possibly i dotn see any documentation there, but looks like it might.
Jun 11 07:01:20 <_Sy_> http://www.powerstok.com/site/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=19&Itemid=27&lang=en
Jun 11 07:01:26 <_Sy_> looks better
Jun 11 07:01:27 <m_billybob> russell--, yeah its called a battery right ?
Jun 11 07:01:38 <russell--> it's called "R"
Jun 11 07:01:53 <mastiff_> I have two BBBs connected via USB, ifconfig shows they both have the same IP address for eth over USB.  What should I do about that?
Jun 11 07:01:55 <jacekowski> _Sy_: use lead acid battery and just connect it directly to power supply @12-14V
Jun 11 07:02:11 <m_billybob> mastiff_ change ones IP ?
Jun 11 07:02:48 <jacekowski> _Sy_: when PSU is on and providing power it will charge the battery and power the thing at the same time, without any complicated circuitry
Jun 11 07:03:08 <russell--> for sealed lead acid, 13.55V or so is a safe trickle charge voltage (check battery specs)
Jun 11 07:03:17 <m_billybob> mastiff_ you can not have two same IPs on the same network . . .
Jun 11 07:03:29 <m_billybob> depends on the battery russell--
Jun 11 07:03:30 <_Sy_> ty, will look into it.
Jun 11 07:03:40 <russell--> (check battery specs)
Jun 11 07:03:57 <_Sy_> better crack on, I'll be back tonight.
Jun 11 07:04:12 <jacekowski> if you want to get into lipo's or something then you need proper charger
Jun 11 07:04:12 <russell--> mastiff_: change one of them
Jun 11 07:04:14 <mastiff_> Yeah, I know that, but for the eth over usb where is that setup
Jun 11 07:04:28 <m_billybob> interfaces . . .
Jun 11 07:04:39 <m_billybob> -> /etc/network/interfaces
Jun 11 07:04:45 <m_billybob> on most sane distros
Jun 11 07:04:55 <mastiff_> ok thanks, should have just google that one
Jun 11 07:04:56 <russell--> mastiff_: grep -r 192.168.7 /etc/
Jun 11 07:05:44 <m_billybob> fancy russell ;)
Jun 11 07:05:53 <russell--> on angstrom, it iseems to be in /etc/udev/rules.d/udhcpd.rules
Jun 11 07:06:01 <m_billybob> ooo like that nickname lol wonkykong
Jun 11 07:06:21 <m_billybob> oh yeah ?
Jun 11 07:06:33 <m_billybob> who said angstrom was sane ;)
Jun 11 07:06:39 * m_billybob ducks and hides from koen
Jun 11 07:08:34 <russell--> mastiff_: of course, if you don't know what you are doing you might break the network and not be able to connect anymore ;-)
Jun 11 07:08:40 <russell--> so there's a happy thought
Jun 11 07:08:51 <russell--> serial console++
Jun 11 07:09:41 <mastiff_> not worried
Jun 11 07:21:08 <KotH> jacekowski: uhmm... you cannot just simply connect an electronic circuit to a lead battery with a charger connected
Jun 11 07:21:32 <KotH> jacekowski: it highly depends on the charger circuit. if it's a linear regulator, then it's fine, if it's a pulsed regulator, then not
Jun 11 07:22:27 <mranostay> love the GPS noise around here
Jun 11 07:22:50 <mranostay> i'm gone from 110 meters to 30 to 70
Jun 11 07:23:11 <av500> you are drunk
Jun 11 07:23:14 <av500> your GPS is
Jun 11 07:24:24 <mranostay> heh cute
Jun 11 07:25:17 <KotH> mranostay: bad antenna position is bad
Jun 11 07:25:43 <russell--> vertical gps resolution is crappy
Jun 11 07:27:13 <KotH> depends where you are
Jun 11 07:27:34 <m_billybob> 110 meters 30 . ..its all teh same
Jun 11 07:27:38 <m_billybob> ( close enough )
Jun 11 07:28:30 <m_billybob> close enough for C.O.P.S. to pinpoint your location ;)
Jun 11 07:28:35 <KotH> yeah... for people who measure heights with their body parts ;)
Jun 11 07:30:04 <ka6sox> 8 cubits?
Jun 11 07:36:38 <m_billybob> heh
Jun 11 07:40:07 <mastiff_> What's the default login for the debian 5-29 flasher image?
Jun 11 07:40:30 <mastiff_> From this page:  http://www.elinux.org/BeagleBoardDebian#Recommended_Beagle_Software
Jun 11 07:40:54 <av500> root
Jun 11 07:40:59 <av500> oops
Jun 11 07:41:00 <av500> debianb
Jun 11 07:41:02 <mastiff_> doesn't work
Jun 11 07:41:02 <av500> no idea
Jun 11 07:41:13 <mastiff_> debian:debian doesn't work
Jun 11 07:41:17 <av500> probably sudo
Jun 11 07:41:23 <mastiff_> root:root doesn't work
Jun 11 07:41:34 <mastiff_> no password doesn't work
Jun 11 07:42:19 <mastiff_> root:sudo doesn't work
Jun 11 07:43:07 <russell--> mastiff_: ask the people that made the image
Jun 11 07:43:12 <russell--> they'll know
Jun 11 07:43:54 <mastiff_> Yeah I was hoping one of those people is here at the moment.
Jun 11 07:45:35 <av500> its a "secure" image
Jun 11 07:46:07 <av500> but the #nsa should know
Jun 11 07:46:31 <av500> jj2baile: ping
Jun 11 07:49:42 <KotH> .o0(twitter is leaking into irc)
Jun 11 07:52:17 <mastiff_> There are older images I could try, but apparently the usb hot-swap issue was fixed in the 5-29 image, so would be nice to have that.
Jun 11 07:52:50 <russell--> who did make the image?
Jun 11 07:55:43 <Sebastian> how can I invite myself a beagle black battery
Jun 11 07:56:09 <Sebastian> how can I load a battery with the black beagle
Jun 11 07:56:21 <mastiff_> Ok I got root by going through  start.htm on the boot partition logging in as debian:debian and the su root
Jun 11 07:56:49 <mastiff_> not sure why it would work through ssh
Jun 11 07:57:07 <mastiff_> ^wouldn't
Jun 11 07:58:01 <Sebastian> which you may use rechargeable liion lipo?
Jun 11 07:58:52 <ka6sox> av500, you think he is up @ 3am?
Jun 11 07:59:17 <ka6sox> make that 4am
Jun 11 08:00:46 <KotH> ka6sox: you were yesterday :)
Jun 11 08:01:28 <ka6sox> KotH, you got me on that one
Jun 11 08:01:47 <ka6sox> I got woken up and can't sleep now
Jun 11 08:02:10 <mastiff_> DT nightmares?
Jun 11 08:02:17 <KotH> ask someone to use a baseball bat on you
Jun 11 08:02:30 <ka6sox> mastiff_, no, not tonight
Jun 11 08:02:34 <ka6sox> those are over now
Jun 11 08:02:47 <ka6sox> genallocate..thats a different story
Jun 11 08:04:14 <m_billybob> mastiff_ debian /tmppasswd or somethignto that effect
Jun 11 08:05:11 <ka6sox> m_billybob, I *know* what time it is there
Jun 11 08:05:26 <m_billybob> Default User: debian
Jun 11 08:05:27 <m_billybob> Password: temppwd
Jun 11 08:05:27 <m_billybob> Root User: root
Jun 11 08:05:27 <m_billybob> Root Password: root
Jun 11 08:05:29 <mastiff_> i got root through the web interface with debian:debian then su:root
Jun 11 08:05:44 <m_billybob> [01:05] <ka6sox> m_billybob, I *know* what time it is there
Jun 11 08:05:51 <m_billybob> yeah
Jun 11 08:06:01 <m_billybob> its o late:30
Jun 11 08:06:18 <m_billybob> or o early:30 depending on how you look at it
Jun 11 08:06:31 <m_billybob> either way its Oh Dark thrity
Jun 11 08:06:39 <ka6sox> depends on whether you are getting up or goin down
Jun 11 08:06:50 <m_billybob> i havent ben to bed soon
Jun 11 08:06:58 <m_billybob> err im goign ot bed soon havent slet yet
Jun 11 08:06:59 <m_billybob> lol
Jun 11 08:07:33 <m_billybob> ka6sox one step closer to my goal finally got poor mans serial debug working.
Jun 11 08:07:45 * ka6sox places a banhammer on m_billybob and sends him off...
Jun 11 08:08:33 <m_billybob> it may be too late for that
Jun 11 08:08:48 <m_billybob> got to get up at 7am and thin beets :)
Jun 11 08:09:36 <mastiff_> It's going to be a $100+ poor man's serial debug assuming minimum wage ;)
Jun 11 08:09:54 <m_billybob> my time to me is free
Jun 11 08:10:02 <m_billybob> and i had it workign hours ago
Jun 11 08:11:47 <m_billybob> mastiff_, you can buy mine for $100 though if you like
Jun 11 08:12:10 <mastiff_> hehe, no I wanna make one also.  What do I need besides msp430?
Jun 11 08:12:41 <m_billybob> 3 female to female jumper wires
Jun 11 08:13:07 <m_billybob> well you dont need a msp430 just a v1.5 launchpad ( you pop the MCU out )
Jun 11 08:13:09 <m_billybob> well
Jun 11 08:13:15 <m_billybob> hmm yeah that'd work
Jun 11 08:13:26 <m_billybob> female to male jumper wires would work too
Jun 11 08:13:28 <mastiff_> yeah i have an unused launchpad
Jun 11 08:13:34 <m_billybob> v1.5 ?
Jun 11 08:13:38 <mastiff_> yup
Jun 11 08:14:27 <m_billybob> ill write something up and take some pictures and post on beaglefu tomorrow sometime if i get the time
Jun 11 08:15:58 <mastiff_> Yeah that would be helpful whenever you have time.
Jun 11 08:17:32 <av500> ka6sox: a ping is a ping
Jun 11 08:17:36 <av500> its async
Jun 11 08:18:17 <m_billybob> ok i gues im off to see if i can get some shut eye, you al take it easy.
Jun 11 08:31:41 <mrpackethead> found my fuses
Jun 11 08:31:42 <mrpackethead> Finally
Jun 11 08:35:52 <panto> moaning
Jun 11 08:37:02 <mastiff_> she is
Jun 11 08:53:39 <mastiff_> Fixed the ssh login issue by reinstalling ssh through the web interface.  Weird but whatever, it's working now.
Jun 11 08:54:36 <mastiff_> usb bluetooth is working now on my BBB running the 5-29 debian flasher image.
Jun 11 08:56:36 <mrpackethead> hey i just got an email from mouser
Jun 11 08:56:36 <mrpackethead> the BBB has rarrived
Jun 11 09:49:59 <av500> wow, Allwinner rumoured to have MUSB
Jun 11 09:51:12 <mru> maybe they couldn't make a worse one themselves
Jun 11 09:51:15 <panto> av500, lol
Jun 11 09:51:23 <panto> talk about self inflicted wound
Jun 11 09:51:46 <mru> or perhaps they fexed it so it works
Jun 11 09:51:57 <panto> fexed it to death
Jun 11 09:52:13 <mru> that would be an improvement
Jun 11 09:52:31 <av500> maybe they fexed the dma on the thing
Jun 11 09:53:00 * panto tries to imagine the hacks on top of musb already hacky code 
Jun 11 09:53:13 <mru> such potential
Jun 11 09:53:19 <av500> panto: with DT fragments being loaded at runtime, does that remind me of windows drivers and .inf files?
Jun 11 09:53:38 <mru> av500: depends, does it work?
Jun 11 09:53:45 <mru> .inf files never do...
Jun 11 09:53:52 <av500> check the phorum
Jun 11 09:53:55 <av500> they all complain
Jun 11 09:54:00 <av500> they all want win.ini back
Jun 11 09:54:06 <mru> it's a ph0rum, duh
Jun 11 09:54:20 <av500> G00gl3 ph0rum
Jun 11 09:54:59 <mru> pr15m
Jun 11 09:55:16 <KotH> salut greek guy!
Jun 11 09:55:21 <panto> hi KotH
Jun 11 09:55:32 <av500> n54
Jun 11 09:55:36 <av500> ha!
Jun 11 09:55:38 <panto> av500, 3yo children wouldn't whine so much
Jun 11 09:55:48 <panto> wah, you talk away my platform file
Jun 11 09:55:50 <av500> panto: you have not seen mine!
Jun 11 09:55:58 <mru> anyone else remember those old prism wifi chips?
Jun 11 09:56:00 <panto> hehe
Jun 11 09:56:23 <av500> my 3+3y old whines a lot
Jun 11 09:56:49 <mru> of course, double the whine every 3y
Jun 11 09:57:02 <av500> yes, 3+6+9 is a bad year :)
Jun 11 09:58:09 <KotH> av500: why did you do it then?
Jun 11 09:58:18 <KotH> av500: why not 1+2+3? :)
Jun 11 09:58:26 <av500> ::effort::
Jun 11 09:58:28 <KotH> eh..
Jun 11 09:58:40 <KotH> effort vs whine-pain :)
Jun 11 11:17:53 * KotH needs a whip
Jun 11 11:17:59 <KotH> my soldering slave is misbehaving
Jun 11 11:21:36 <mru> KotH: here you go: http://youtu.be/jvmARAo2QLo
Jun 11 11:25:17 <dm8tbr> 'there's an app for thatâ„¢'
Jun 11 11:25:26 <mru> whipping?
Jun 11 11:26:56 <dm8tbr> http://yx.fi/5re
Jun 11 11:27:03 <dm8tbr> just as an example
Jun 11 11:36:20 <mru> omg, the 90s are back! hide! http://www.lingscars.com/
Jun 11 11:44:59 <KotH> mru: could be japanese :)
Jun 11 11:49:39 <yello> hello
Jun 11 11:49:50 <yello> any1
Jun 11 11:50:06 <mru> PARSE ERROR
Jun 11 11:50:17 <yello> what?
Jun 11 11:50:32 <yello> i need help
Jun 11 11:50:41 <mru> ENOQUESTION
Jun 11 11:51:38 <yello> want to use gpio pin as parallel port
Jun 11 11:52:02 <mru> just one pin?
Jun 11 11:52:03 <dm8tbr> mru: that page is b0rken here
Jun 11 11:52:09 <yello> no
Jun 11 11:52:10 <mru> dm8tbr: it's just slow to load
Jun 11 11:52:36 <dm8tbr> my firefox is complaining about a redirect loop
Jun 11 11:52:38 <yello> 4 pins
Jun 11 11:52:48 <mru> dm8tbr: probably server overload then
Jun 11 11:52:51 <dm8tbr> yeah
Jun 11 11:53:02 <yello> hello
Jun 11 11:53:12 <dm8tbr> turn the radio on
Jun 11 11:53:20 <mru> what sort of 'parallel' port?
Jun 11 11:53:42 <av500> a serial one
Jun 11 11:53:56 <mru> ah, a shift register
Jun 11 11:53:57 <yello> want to make gpio available for parallel port
Jun 11 11:54:27 <sebastian> why does not the wireless 5e landscape on the BeagleboneBlack?
Jun 11 11:54:34 <av500> only one?
Jun 11 11:54:45 <av500> sebastian: that what does not what?
Jun 11 11:55:04 <sebastian> 1 sec please
Jun 11 11:55:47 <sebastian> why does the wireless BeagleBone TiWi-5E w / Chip Antenna not connected to the beagleboneblack
Jun 11 11:56:48 <sebastian> why does the wireless BeagleBone TiWi-5E w / Chip Antenna not connected to the beagleboneblack
Jun 11 11:57:26 * SpeedEvil suspects a malfunctioning ai.
Jun 11 11:57:54 * mru has doubts about the 'i'
Jun 11 11:58:05 <sebastian> how can I get it to work
Jun 11 12:01:09 <av500> *it*
Jun 11 12:01:28 <mru> http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/19
Jun 11 12:03:51 <av500> KotH: omg, the swiss are outraged
Jun 11 12:04:01 <av500> will you stop cheese shipments?
Jun 11 12:04:46 <av500> mru: a single prism?
Jun 11 12:05:21 <KotH> av500: huh? what?
Jun 11 12:05:43 <mru> KotH is clearly not using prism
Jun 11 12:06:00 <KotH> nope, we have our own system in .ch
Jun 11 12:06:09 <KotH> unfrotunately, it's not as sophisticated as prism
Jun 11 12:06:57 <av500> KotH: you are outraged
Jun 11 12:07:00 <av500> about prism
Jun 11 12:07:15 <av500> I heard you are burning all dollars in your bank vault as protest
Jun 11 12:08:46 <mru> let's start a rumour that cash machines record the serial numbers of notes they dispense to you
Jun 11 12:08:59 <mru> for all I know, they do
Jun 11 12:09:24 <av500> somebody could leak a list of *all* cash serial numbers....
Jun 11 12:09:31 <av500> like they leaked all pin codes
Jun 11 12:09:51 <mru> that's a long list
Jun 11 12:11:54 <panto> sebastian, no DT bindings for the TiWi
Jun 11 12:11:59 <panto> complain to your local TI rep
Jun 11 12:12:11 <av500> who makes the TiWi?
Jun 11 12:13:50 <panto> who makes the world go round?
Jun 11 12:13:59 <av500> it is not TI selling the TiWi
Jun 11 12:15:31 <panto> well who makes the drivers?
Jun 11 12:15:48 <mru> who drives the makers?
Jun 11 12:15:57 <panto> prism?
Jun 11 12:17:44 <KotH> the whip?
Jun 11 12:18:00 <av500> mru: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817111402
Jun 11 12:18:06 <av500> it has 2x 1.2A charging ports
Jun 11 12:18:09 <av500> and 5 USB ports
Jun 11 12:18:14 <av500> and only a 3A PSU???
Jun 11 12:18:17 <av500> so stupid
Jun 11 12:18:30 <mru> they're all like that
Jun 11 12:18:48 <av500> mru: I have a 7port with a 4A supply :)
Jun 11 12:18:58 <av500> in a metal case
Jun 11 12:19:02 <mru> I have a 7-port with a 3.5A supply
Jun 11 12:19:07 <mru> the only one I've ever found
Jun 11 12:19:12 <mru> but the psu died
Jun 11 12:19:35 <av500> http://www.exsys.ch/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=210&zenid=c8e7ec856a737f83
Jun 11 12:19:41 <av500> swiss, of course
Jun 11 12:22:20 <av500> mru: this one has 3.8A http://www.amazon.de/Belkin-Mobiler-Hi-Speed-7-Port-schwarz/dp/B0028RYQ2G
Jun 11 12:22:33 <mru> yes, they exist
Jun 11 12:22:38 <mru> but they're hard to find
Jun 11 12:22:43 <mru> most have only 3A
Jun 11 12:22:44 <mru> if that
Jun 11 12:22:47 <av500> yeah
Jun 11 12:23:12 <mru> KotH: remember that time we were shopping for one in brussels?
Jun 11 12:28:25 <KotH> mru: juup :)
Jun 11 12:30:23 <av500> jj2baile: you up now?
Jun 11 12:34:40 <RagBal> Does somebody have a working canbus on the BBB?
Jun 11 12:34:59 <RagBal> I'm struggling with it for a few days now, and still haven't got it to work =(
Jun 11 12:43:52 <aliroshan> HI EVERY ONE
Jun 11 12:44:37 <aliroshan> I WANT TO DRIVE LCD CAPE 3 WITH STARTERWARE . ANY ONE CAN HELP ME ABOUT THAT?
Jun 11 12:45:50 <panto> my eyes hurt
Jun 11 12:46:02 * KotH hands panto a blindfold
Jun 11 12:46:56 <KotH> aliroshan: sorry, but you are on your own
Jun 11 12:48:59 <KotH> aliroshan: i hope you have a very good reason to use starterware
Jun 11 12:49:17 <av500> he is starting
Jun 11 12:49:52 <panto> afk
Jun 11 12:50:02 <av500> nsa
Jun 11 12:50:29 <bradfa> inexactly following exactsteps is not recommended
Jun 11 12:59:14 <aliroshan> why using starterware is not support in cape?
Jun 11 12:59:59 <av500> the cape does not care
Jun 11 13:00:12 <av500> but there are only linux drivers for the cape
Jun 11 13:00:19 <av500> for starterware you have to write your own
Jun 11 13:00:45 <aliroshan> ok thanks.....
Jun 11 13:01:41 <aliroshan> so how can i start to write starterware code in lcd cape? any one have experience about that?
Jun 11 13:02:20 <av500> read the TRM
Jun 11 13:02:34 <av500> understand how the display controller works
Jun 11 13:02:39 <av500> use the linux driver for help
Jun 11 13:02:43 <mru> maybe you could write a script that converts the trm to a driver
Jun 11 13:03:10 <aliroshan> thanks .........
Jun 11 13:03:29 <aliroshan> very difficult way but i have to
Jun 11 13:03:33 <mru> that guy is gone, so he must have succeeded, right?
Jun 11 13:03:58 <mru> the lcdc isn't all that complex
Jun 11 13:04:23 <av500> basically a shift register with side effects
Jun 11 13:04:26 <mdp> it's like a 2005-era display controller
Jun 11 13:16:51 <KotH> greetings master MDP
Jun 11 13:17:29 <av500> Master Disc Processor
Jun 11 13:18:08 <mdp> all your 8" floppies are belong to us
Jun 11 13:18:35 <mdp> hi KotH
Jun 11 13:18:55 <georgem> Is it wrong if I laugh maniacally when I read this in some documentation: "If you use this low-level API directly, you're signing up for some pain."
Jun 11 13:19:17 <mru> alsa?
Jun 11 13:19:39 <georgem> no, dbus unfortunately.
Jun 11 13:19:48 <mru> worse
Jun 11 13:19:49 <mdp> we do need a "Device Tree Koans" in the spirit of http://stevelosh.com/blog/2013/04/git-koans/
Jun 11 13:20:14 <mru> how about some device tree koens?
Jun 11 13:20:28 <mdp> we have our fair share of koens
Jun 11 13:20:35 <mdp> we are maxed out at one
Jun 11 13:20:58 <mru> you need a backup in case he gets fexed
Jun 11 13:23:52 <av500> Hmm, I found the schematics for this 1949 telephone on the internet....
Jun 11 13:23:59 <av500> this #prism goes way back it seems
Jun 11 13:30:54 <mdp> it's a cover up as big as the zombie virus..at least back to WWI
Jun 11 13:54:28 <jj2baile> av500: pong
Jun 11 13:56:27 <av500> jj2baile: about DSP and McBSP
Jun 11 13:56:31 <av500> go for it :)
Jun 11 14:25:27 <mranostay> jj2baile: how about McDs?
Jun 11 14:29:29 <philenotfound> Btw, i have my lcd7 working with bbb
Jun 11 14:30:00 <panto> philenotfound, congrats
Jun 11 14:30:03 <panto> what was it?
Jun 11 14:36:59 <philenotfound> panto: hw issues, mostly
Jun 11 14:37:17 <philenotfound> first, the enable pin issue i've told about earlier
Jun 11 14:37:31 <panto> philenotfound, yeah I know what you mean
Jun 11 14:37:41 <panto> about the driver starting enabled
Jun 11 14:38:36 <philenotfound> after that.. i had to cut the corresponding pins that were connected to the emmc on p8
Jun 11 14:38:54 <philenotfound> because of the capacitive properties of the traces
Jun 11 14:39:04 <panto> ah, that's hardcore
Jun 11 14:39:19 <panto> bummer hope it was something that needed no h/w hacks
Jun 11 14:39:43 <myself> that sounds like something solvable with pullups, pulldowns, ferrite beads, et al.
Jun 11 14:39:49 <panto> btw, can I ask you guys with a BBB run something about the hdmi issues?
Jun 11 14:40:13 <philenotfound> what hdmi issues?
Jun 11 14:40:18 <panto> http://pastebin.com/sEQSRkPr
Jun 11 14:40:36 <panto> philenotfound, weird monitor resolutions failures
Jun 11 14:40:48 <panto> can you please run this and paste the results?
Jun 11 14:41:03 <panto> if you can also test which kind of resolutions work that would be great too
Jun 11 14:42:24 <philenotfound> panto: will do in a few days as i don't have an m-hdmi cable yet
Jun 11 14:42:32 <panto> philenotfound, no problem
Jun 11 14:42:41 <panto> this was directed to the whole #beagle channel
Jun 11 14:42:45 <panto> right ppl?
Jun 11 14:42:49 <panto> trolls?
Jun 11 14:42:53 <panto> bueler?
Jun 11 14:42:54 <philenotfound> bots?
Jun 11 14:43:35 <mru> and mranostay
Jun 11 14:43:40 <philenotfound> anyway, i still suspect some problems with the display controller as the picture is off a few pixels to the left and top
Jun 11 14:43:59 <panto> philenotfound, yeah, last image fixed that
Jun 11 14:46:16 <philenotfound> panto: is it in the beagleboard/kernel repo?
Jun 11 14:46:26 <prpplague> philenotfound: what version of the LCD7 board do you have?
Jun 11 14:46:29 <panto> it should be
Jun 11 14:46:37 <philenotfound> prpplague: A2
Jun 11 14:46:52 <prpplague> philenotfound: right that is what i figured
Jun 11 14:47:21 <philenotfound> prpplague: but the emmc issue should still be present on newer revs
Jun 11 14:47:41 <prpplague> philenotfound: which signals did you cut?
Jun 11 14:47:48 <philenotfound> mmc1_*
Jun 11 14:48:56 <prpplague> philenotfound: you them all?
Jun 11 14:49:43 <philenotfound> On the cape connector of the lcd7, yes, mmc1_dat[0..7], mmc1_clk and mmc1_cmd
Jun 11 14:52:26 <philenotfound> was a real pita because i was almost sure it's a sw issue :-/
Jun 11 14:54:04 <koen> panto: did you see the 22 part ADC patchset this afternoon on linux-input ml?
Jun 11 14:54:18 <panto> koen, yes
Jun 11 14:54:24 * koen spots panto in cc
Jun 11 14:54:30 <panto> and the one guy from intel bitching about it
Jun 11 14:54:52 <panto> ffs, deal with your own crap
Jun 11 14:56:06 <KotH> 22 part? for an adc?
Jun 11 14:56:22 <av500> maybe it is a 22bit ADC?
Jun 11 14:56:23 <KotH> what does it do? solve world hunger between two samples?
Jun 11 14:56:35 <mru> av500: just what I was thinking
Jun 11 14:56:54 <av500> KotH: damn, now I feel hungry
Jun 11 14:57:04 <KotH> av500: go and get some döner
Jun 11 14:57:09 <KotH> av500: or börek
Jun 11 14:57:19 <av500> börek tomorrow morning again
Jun 11 14:57:20 <KotH> av500: lahmacun wouldnt be bad either
Jun 11 14:57:28 <mru> KotH: look what you did, you caused world hunger
Jun 11 14:57:38 <KotH> mru: nah.. just av500 hunger
Jun 11 14:57:50 <mru> difference is marginal
Jun 11 14:58:12 <av500> mru: what is that party in BRU?
Jun 11 14:58:19 <av500> world hunger is a passing fad
Jun 11 14:58:25 <mru> what party in bru?
Jun 11 14:58:56 <av500> something next month
Jun 11 14:59:07 <av500> I overheard you on IRC
Jun 11 14:59:11 <mru> in a city that size, I'm sure there are many parties next month
Jun 11 14:59:42 <mru> you weren't invited to any?
Jun 11 15:00:24 <av500> [00:22:55] <ds2> mru: aren't u suppose to be partying in BRU?
Jun 11 15:00:26 <av500> [00:23:20] <mru> no
Jun 11 15:00:27 <av500> [00:23:27] <mru> that's next month
Jun 11 15:00:40 <mru> no idea where ds2 got that from
Jun 11 15:00:43 <av500> didnt even need #prism for that
Jun 11 15:06:14 <panto> oh god
Jun 11 15:06:19 <mru> which one?
Jun 11 15:06:31 <panto> the guy that's bitching about the adc patches is the guy responsible for connman
Jun 11 15:06:40 <panto> http://www.linuxplumbersconf.org/2011/ocw/users/39
Jun 11 15:06:52 <koen> sameo
Jun 11 15:06:54 <panto> *urge to flame rising*
Jun 11 15:07:04 <KotH> flame on!
Jun 11 15:07:12 * mru hands panto some liquid oxygen
Jun 11 15:07:21 <koen> connman was created for meego/tizen
Jun 11 15:07:30 <panto> and the guy responsible for mfd!
Jun 11 15:07:33 <mru> I thought it was created to anger people
Jun 11 15:07:42 <KotH> panto: put a tizen sticker on that guy
Jun 11 15:07:48 <av500> one?
Jun 11 15:07:58 <av500> and mranostay is the one working next to him
Jun 11 15:08:18 <panto> KotH, can I just staple it to his forehead?
Jun 11 15:08:56 <KotH> panto: only if you use your big stapler
Jun 11 15:09:05 <mru> the red one?
Jun 11 15:09:09 <panto> yes milton
Jun 11 15:09:24 <av500> use a right angle stapler
Jun 11 15:10:01 <KotH> use a nail gun
Jun 11 15:10:37 <mru> KotH: http://youtu.be/-4EDhdAHrOg
Jun 11 15:11:05 <KotH> which reminds me... at a friends school, a teacher demonstrated the security system of a nail gun, that you couldn't fire it unles you held it down to something.... well he pointed it to his head, when the security system failed
Jun 11 15:11:29 <mru> what happened to him?
Jun 11 15:11:39 <ssi> reminds me of the DEA agent video
Jun 11 15:11:41 <KotH> instant death
Jun 11 15:11:49 <mru> ssi: the one who shot himself in the foot?
Jun 11 15:11:54 <ssi> "I'm the only one in this room professional enough to handle this weapon" *shoots self in leg*
Jun 11 15:11:56 <KotH> infront of a full class of teenagers
Jun 11 15:12:17 <mru> KotH: hopefully they learned the lesson
Jun 11 15:12:41 <KotH> mru: that clip is known...
Jun 11 15:12:50 <KotH> mru: and i have such friends...all female ^^'
Jun 11 15:12:56 <KotH> well.."friends"
Jun 11 15:13:03 <av500> mru: watch closely, I will demonstrate that only once
Jun 11 15:14:01 <mru> KotH: what did you do to get such friends?
Jun 11 15:14:45 <av500> KotH: female friends with nail guns?
Jun 11 15:14:54 <mru> that's a scary thought
Jun 11 15:15:24 <mru> I have a sister with a chainsaw...
Jun 11 15:15:35 <mru> I don't think she owns a nailgun
Jun 11 15:22:12 <KotH> mru: i must have sinned
Jun 11 15:22:36 <mru> a lot
Jun 11 15:26:34 <mranostay> not enough
Jun 11 15:27:07 <mru> mranostay: you've gone beyond stage?
Jun 11 15:27:11 <mru> +that
Jun 11 15:27:40 <KotH> mranostay: you will not entrap me with your evil beer!
Jun 11 15:27:59 <mru> mranostay: what happens if you keep on sinning?
Jun 11 15:29:15 <panto> sin overflow and then you're back at 0
Jun 11 15:29:40 <mru> so it's unsigned?
Jun 11 15:31:17 <av500> unsinned
Jun 11 15:31:33 <mru> what took you so long?
Jun 11 15:31:41 <av500> fetching coffee
Jun 11 15:31:41 <KotH> his kids
Jun 11 15:32:22 <mru> hmm, I don't think I've sinned yet today
Jun 11 15:32:33 <mranostay> mru: i'm sure you have
Jun 11 15:32:36 <mru> must do something about that
Jun 11 15:33:20 <mru> mranostay: I suppose it depends on how strict you are
Jun 11 15:33:20 <mranostay> swearing is a good option
Jun 11 15:33:27 <mru> I have played some rock music
Jun 11 15:33:40 <av500> mranostay: only in the US
Jun 11 15:33:52 <av500> but so is jaywalking
Jun 11 15:34:02 <mru> av500: that's legal here
Jun 11 15:34:14 <av500> as I said
Jun 11 15:34:16 <mru> it's just sometimes a bad idea
Jun 11 15:34:17 <av500> only in the US
Jun 11 15:34:29 <av500> I loled hard when I heard they have an extra name for that
Jun 11 15:34:33 <mru> is crossing the street against a red light legal in germany?
Jun 11 15:34:41 <av500> no idea
Jun 11 15:34:59 <mru> I've noticed that people respect them much more there than here
Jun 11 15:35:01 <av500> at least there is no word for it
Jun 11 15:35:07 <av500> mru: depends on where
Jun 11 15:35:12 <av500> and if kids are present
Jun 11 15:35:13 <mranostay> mru: dumb as hell in any case
Jun 11 15:35:16 <av500> think of the children
Jun 11 15:35:20 <mru> I'd say they wait for green 90% of the time
Jun 11 15:35:26 <av500> I dont
Jun 11 15:35:31 <mru> here it's well below 50%
Jun 11 15:35:36 * mranostay hits av500 
Jun 11 15:35:42 <mru> except if it's a busy crossing
Jun 11 15:36:04 <mru> mranostay: what dumb about crossing the street when there's no traffic?
Jun 11 15:36:08 <mranostay> SF and Portland jaywalk but usually if it is all clear
Jun 11 15:36:19 <mranostay> mru: that isn't really jaywalking to me
Jun 11 15:36:33 <mranostay> people do that in Portland in front of cops
Jun 11 15:36:40 <mru> mranostay: I never walk _exactly_ where the cars are
Jun 11 15:36:43 <mru> duh
Jun 11 15:36:50 <av500> whitewalking ftw
Jun 11 15:38:07 <mru> but I see no problem with starting to cross before the car in the far lane has passed
Jun 11 15:38:23 <av500> in paris you have to step into the street
Jun 11 15:38:27 <av500> for any car to stop for you
Jun 11 15:38:45 <av500> there are german tourist that starved to death on the curb
Jun 11 15:38:48 <av500> waiting
Jun 11 15:38:49 <av500> +s
Jun 11 15:39:02 <mru> you mean the kerb
Jun 11 15:39:24 <av500> add your local spelling flavour
Jun 11 15:39:25 <mranostay> av500: so like the US and crosswalks
Jun 11 15:39:41 <av500> whatever a crosswalk is
Jun 11 15:40:14 <mru> is that like a zebra crossing?
Jun 11 15:40:26 <mru> and what about crosstalk?
Jun 11 15:51:43 <Crofton|work> so I ahve mlockled some user space memory
Jun 11 15:51:56 <Crofton|work> and passed the address of this memory to the kernel via an ioctl
Jun 11 15:52:07 <Crofton|work> how do I obtain the physical address?
Jun 11 15:56:11 <cyronin_> anybody else having hell with the rt2800usb driver?
Jun 11 15:56:29 <mru> the rt prefix does not bode well...
Jun 11 15:57:18 <panto> Crofton|work, why would you need to pass a physical address?
Jun 11 15:57:23 <cyronin_> yeah, i try to use wpa_supplicant one time...
Jun 11 15:57:31 <panto> the kernel is perfectly capable of getting the physical address himself
Jun 11 15:57:40 <mru> panto: I guess he's talking about in the kernel
Jun 11 15:57:42 <Crofton|work> so the user can tell the fpga fabric where the data is
Jun 11 15:57:56 <panto> you should take a look at the dma_map* functions
Jun 11 15:58:06 <Crofton|work> thinnk uio interfact to fpga, but we need to move bulkd data back and forth
Jun 11 15:58:49 <panto> include/linux/dma-mapping.h
Jun 11 15:59:20 <Crofton|work> they are not useful for user space drivers
Jun 11 15:59:20 <panto> dma_map_single and friends
Jun 11 15:59:47 <mranostay> Crofton|work: FPGA cape?
Jun 11 15:59:57 <Crofton|work> no
Jun 11 15:59:59 <Crofton|work> custom stuff
Jun 11 16:01:12 <panto> Crofton|work, uio is a hack after all
Jun 11 16:01:12 <panto> I guess you could write some helper driver that will do the map calls for you
Jun 11 16:01:13 <panto> note that even if you've mlocked the memory, your caches still work
Jun 11 16:01:28 <Crofton|work> yeah, that is step two
Jun 11 16:01:31 <Crofton|work> ioctl to do that
Jun 11 16:04:46 <Criztian_> any ideas on why the user button (the one close to the usb port) pressed until the 4 leds light on does nothing but boot?
Jun 11 16:06:18 <panto_> dammit freenode
Jun 11 16:06:20 <panto_> Crofton|work, did you get all of that?
Jun 11 16:07:54 <Criztian_> hmmm maybe a split. Let me try again.
Jun 11 16:07:58 <Criztian_> hi, I have a beaglebone black and I'm trying to flash it. I just took the latest img and put it on sd. I followed the instructions so I took the power off. Then kept the user button pressed but it only boots as normal
Jun 11 16:08:20 <Criztian_> Any ideas?
Jun 11 16:08:57 <panto_> Criztian_, ROM only read the button when you've reset from power
Jun 11 16:09:06 <panto_> i.e. disconnect power and connect holding the button
Jun 11 16:09:30 <Criztian_> did that, I kept the button down THEN connected the usb cable
Jun 11 16:09:42 <Criztian_> and waited for the 4 leds
Jun 11 16:10:23 <cyronin_> what, debian wheezy 7.0 doesnt have iw available?
Jun 11 16:10:41 <Crofton|work> yu ended at caches still work
Jun 11 16:13:48 <Criztian_> panto_: that is why I'm going crazy over this, it simply boots with automatic login
Jun 11 16:14:15 <panto_> ok, what is the problem?
Jun 11 16:14:21 <panto_> it will boot from emmc
Jun 11 16:14:29 <Criztian_> panto_: I need to flash it
Jun 11 16:14:54 <cyronin_> nvm me im dumb
Jun 11 16:15:13 <panto_> ok, boot normally, mount the /dev/mmcblock0p1 /mnt/cf
Jun 11 16:15:16 <panto_> rm /mnt/cf/MLO
Jun 11 16:15:17 <panto_> sync
Jun 11 16:15:20 <panto_> reboot
Jun 11 16:15:30 <panto_> this will make sure you can't boot from emmc again
Jun 11 16:15:38 <panto_> put the flasher sd card in, reboot
Jun 11 16:15:59 <panto_> after it is done, if you can boot without an external sd card you're done
Jun 11 16:17:11 <Criztian_> thanks I'll do those, strange thing the adafruit site just said to hold the user button down then said nothing about these commands.
Jun 11 16:17:36 <Criztian_> (the Flashing the BeagleBone Black page)
Jun 11 16:18:11 <panto_> Criztian_, err, those commands are there to make sure that you don't get confused
Jun 11 16:18:15 <panto_> the normal method should work too
Jun 11 16:18:26 <panto_> but the flashing takes a _lot_ of time
Jun 11 16:18:30 <panto_> close to 1h
Jun 11 16:18:52 <ka6sox> mourning
Jun 11 16:18:58 <panto_> hi ka6sox
Jun 11 16:19:05 <mru> +1
Jun 11 16:20:43 <Criztian_> panto_: ok thanks, I'll do that tomorrow morning or leave it tonight. Btw is it normal that colors seem like a 256 graphics display on the hdmi?|?
Jun 11 16:20:56 <panto_> wut?
Jun 11 16:21:01 <panto_> it's 16bit
Jun 11 16:21:21 <Criztian_> ok then it's normal
Jun 11 16:21:30 <mru> 16 bits ought to be enough for anyone
Jun 11 16:21:45 <Criztian_> maybe not for video playback lol
Jun 11 16:22:07 <mru> standard yuv is 12 bits per pixel
Jun 11 16:22:08 <mru> on average
Jun 11 16:23:58 <Criztian_> panto_: so you mean I cannot make it become a hi-quality video player?
Jun 11 16:24:23 <panto_> get an rpi for that, it's better
Jun 11 16:24:38 <panto_> bone != media specific device
Jun 11 16:25:00 <panto_> it's a swiss army knife
Jun 11 16:25:28 <mru> KotH: can we have a swiss army knife with video accelerator please?
Jun 11 16:25:30 <Criztian_> panto_: I already have a raspi up and running, then I can't use beaglebone for a project involving video
Jun 11 16:25:55 <panto_> Criztian_, sorry, but there's no hardware video accelerator
Jun 11 16:26:15 <panto_> it might do 720p in a pinch, but it won't match the huge gpu of the rpi
Jun 11 16:26:53 <Tahir> has anyone tried exception handling on beagleboard XM rev C
Jun 11 16:26:56 <Criztian_> yeah, I get you, it would just waste the processor
Jun 11 16:27:36 <panto_> Criztian_, otoh the bone is excellent at doing other stuff
Jun 11 16:27:55 <panto_> with a $45 board you got to make compromises
Jun 11 16:29:38 <Criztian_> yeah, I'll use it for server and other stuff then
Jun 11 16:29:58 <Tahir> could someone confirm the exception vector base address: 0x4020FFC8
Jun 11 16:30:34 <mranostay> what is with those weird letters mixed in with the numbers?
Jun 11 16:32:28 <Tahir> very funny !
Jun 11 16:33:34 <jj2baile> av500: I am ... unsure, to what you are referring.
Jun 11 16:34:13 <MH_> panto on your previously pasted dto: http://pastebin.com/n4EUueLP I've compiled and executed it.  Yet I still have no luck getting GPIO3_19 to toggle on and off.  Is there anything extra that must be done besides setting pinmodes as outputs?
Jun 11 16:34:35 <panto_> MH_, did you export the gpio?
Jun 11 16:34:57 <MH_> panto echo 83 > /sys/class/gpio/export
Jun 11 16:36:18 <MH_> panto when I echo echo 1 > /sys/class/gpio/gpio83/value the value in the file I can change yet I do not see any response on the pin voltage
Jun 11 16:36:38 <panto_> default gpio state is input
Jun 11 16:36:43 <panto_> echo out >direction
Jun 11 16:36:57 <MH_> echo out > /sys/class/gpio/gpio83/direction
Jun 11 16:37:09 <MH_> panto yea I did that after exporting
Jun 11 16:37:24 <panto_> are you sure the 83 value is the correct one?
Jun 11 16:37:43 <panto_> cause 3 * 32 + 19 = 115
Jun 11 16:38:00 <MH_> nope.  I did 2 * 32 + 19 = 83
Jun 11 16:38:02 <ssi> was gonna say
Jun 11 16:38:03 <ssi> heh
Jun 11 16:38:42 <panto_> there's a slight mess with the dt gpio labels due to omap numbering
Jun 11 16:39:09 <mru> fortran ftw
Jun 11 16:39:13 <panto_> yep
Jun 11 16:39:24 <mranostay> 26 + 26 is what?
Jun 11 16:39:30 <mru> 54!
Jun 11 16:39:37 <MH_> yea I was thinking I started at 0?  That solved my problem.  So then is GPIO0_5 = 1 * 32 + 5 =37??
Jun 11 16:40:13 <cyronin_> gpio0_5 isnt 5?
Jun 11 16:40:14 <panto_> no, 0*5 + 5 = 5
Jun 11 16:40:26 <panto_> err 0 * 32
Jun 11 16:40:36 <ssi> yea it does start with 0
Jun 11 16:40:36 <ssi> heh
Jun 11 16:40:40 <cyronin_> so gpio3_19 should be 3 * 32 + 19
Jun 11 16:40:55 <MH_> panto oh man I am really mixed up.  I need more coffee.  Thanks!
Jun 11 16:40:56 <panto_> fwiw there's going to be GPIOTEST driver that takes care of all that in the next release
Jun 11 16:41:14 <MH_> panto when is the release?
Jun 11 16:41:28 <mru> next as in those "free beer tomorrow" signs you see in bars?
Jun 11 16:41:28 <panto_> http://pastebin.com/hihGK7Q5
Jun 11 16:41:31 <panto_> on the way
Jun 11 16:42:15 <ka6sox> mru, damned you...now I got that stupid song in my head :P
Jun 11 16:42:17 <panto> MH_, using that you should be able to skip the export calls
Jun 11 16:42:52 <mru> ka6sox: what song?
Jun 11 16:43:19 <ka6sox> that stupid song from Annie
Jun 11 16:45:43 <mranostay> mru: free beer yesterday
Jun 11 16:45:45 <bbb_> .
Jun 11 16:45:55 <MH_> panto awesome
Jun 11 16:48:45 <bbb_> hello, I have a question about power for BBB.
Jun 11 16:49:35 <bbb_> Can I use the cable which says 'output: +5v, 3.0A' for the power supply of BBB?
Jun 11 16:49:41 <mranostay> bbb_: TOPIC!
Jun 11 16:49:58 * panto kicks mranostay 
Jun 11 16:50:07 * Spirilis kicks mranostay too
Jun 11 16:50:15 * Spirilis invites others to join in
Jun 11 16:50:15 <MH_> bbb_ it needs to be center positive
Jun 11 16:50:15 <panto> don't mind him, he's the channel idi^troll
Jun 11 16:50:22 * _troll_ kicks mranostay 
Jun 11 16:50:30 <pbcw> bbb_, yes, the BBB will only take what it needs/wants.   and what MH_  said.
Jun 11 16:50:37 * ka6sox taps mranostay on the shoulder
Jun 11 16:50:47 <Spirilis> yeah and it's a 2.1mm center, 5.5mm outer DC barrel jack I think
Jun 11 16:50:47 <_troll_> panto: _who_ is the channel troll?
Jun 11 16:51:05 <panto> mru,
Jun 11 16:51:09 <panto> _troll_,
Jun 11 16:51:13 <panto> you're on
Jun 11 16:51:55 <Crofton|work> panto, I am kind of guessing a void * from user space points to the right place inside the ioctl
Jun 11 16:52:03 <mranostay> ka6sox: ah yes? :)
Jun 11 16:52:04 <Crofton|work> so i can use virt_to_phys on it
Jun 11 16:52:05 <mru> hmm, I wonder if there's a chunnel troll
Jun 11 16:52:16 <Crofton|work> go find out
Jun 11 16:52:35 <panto> Crofton|work, yeah
Jun 11 16:52:40 <panto> but use dma_buf if you can
Jun 11 16:52:51 <Crofton|work> slowly I begin to undertand, one mistake at a time
Jun 11 16:52:55 <mru> I've never been through that tunnel actually
Jun 11 16:52:57 <Crofton|work> panto, think thin driver
Jun 11 16:52:58 <panto> it's especially designed for high speed device user-space transfers
Jun 11 16:53:08 <ka6sox> mranostay, is it fun being you?
Jun 11 16:53:26 <Crofton|work> ideally, I add translation/cache ioctls to uio
Jun 11 16:53:47 <mru> ka6sox: he might be missing any useful reference
Jun 11 16:54:06 <panto> Crofton|work, virt_to_phys is only part of the problem
Jun 11 16:54:13 <panto> and not the hardest part
Jun 11 16:54:18 <mranostay> usually
Jun 11 16:54:21 <Crofton|work> which is the hard part
Jun 11 16:54:40 <bbb_> oh~ thanks! I just bought this board but my usb hub doesn't work with the power from the mini USB.
Jun 11 16:55:03 <panto> the mapping and buffer ownership between device, kernel and user-space
Jun 11 16:55:10 <mranostay> bbb_: is it a powered hub?
Jun 11 16:55:14 <Crofton|work> kernel has zero ownership
Jun 11 16:55:34 <mru> http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/9
Jun 11 16:55:52 <ka6sox> mdp, is the sram range in your 6502 example hooked up to uio_pruss?
Jun 11 16:55:52 <bbb_> no, but it works on the raspberry PI.
Jun 11 16:56:04 <mru> wtf, something works on the rpi?
Jun 11 16:56:08 <panto> Crofton|work, still it's the kernel's job to arbitrate
Jun 11 16:56:37 <Crofton|work> in this case, user space does the management
Jun 11 16:56:41 <mdp> ka6sox, no
Jun 11 16:56:54 <KotH> mru: should be doable
Jun 11 16:57:09 <KotH> mru: how big is your budget? what is your time frame? ;)
Jun 11 16:57:15 <panto> Crofton|work, it's your device, your call
Jun 11 16:57:24 <Crofton|work> panto, we need a white board :)
Jun 11 16:57:31 <Crofton|work> we should know more in a few days
Jun 11 16:57:32 <panto> Crofton|work, hehe
Jun 11 16:57:36 <ka6sox> mdp, are you using remoteproc and virtio then?
Jun 11 16:57:37 <mru> KotH: too small and too short
Jun 11 16:57:44 <KotH> mru: well...
Jun 11 16:57:53 <mdp> ka6sox, in the bone-6502 application, there's a bone6502 remoteproc driver. the DT date for that has a property referencing the sram phandle
Jun 11 16:57:56 <mdp> ka6sox, yes
Jun 11 16:58:07 <KotH> mru: then you have to cope with a swiss army knife that does only vga without any acceleration
Jun 11 16:58:21 <ka6sox> mdp, thanks
Jun 11 16:58:26 <ka6sox> makes sense then
Jun 11 16:58:36 <mdp> uio_pruss is used *only* to load the pruss "firmware" and there's zero interaction with the pru after that..it's a run-to-never-complete thread ;)
Jun 11 16:58:51 <ka6sox> okay got it.
Jun 11 16:59:08 <MH_> does anyone have date and time problems with their BBB.  Everytime I boot the time is:  Sat Jan  1 01:19:27 UTC 2000.  Is the BBB Y2K compliant?
Jun 11 16:59:29 <mru> looks like it to me
Jun 11 16:59:40 <mdp> yeah, that remoteproc driver takes a gpio (reset), a pwm (6502 clock), and the sram (6502 ram) properties
Jun 11 16:59:48 <mdp> super trivial, really
Jun 11 16:59:53 <mru> I had a computer that would reset to jan 2051 if left without power too long
Jun 11 17:00:08 <mru> no idea how that happened
Jun 11 17:00:27 <KotH> mru: your hardrive has not been checked for 30549 days, checking...
Jun 11 17:00:50 * ka6sox reads up on virtio and how to use it.
Jun 11 17:00:57 <MH_> so do we have to set the date on boot?
Jun 11 17:01:06 <panto> MH_, there's no rtc on board
Jun 11 17:01:19 <mdp> ka6sox, virtio is not implemented for the b6502 rproc..that's stalled WIP ;)
Jun 11 17:01:24 <panto> if you connect to the network there's an ntp daemon running (I think)
Jun 11 17:01:24 <KotH> MH_: we dont have to. but you might
Jun 11 17:01:27 <mru> time is overrated
Jun 11 17:01:30 <mru> real time doubly so
Jun 11 17:01:36 <ka6sox> kk
Jun 11 17:01:36 <panto> mdp, I need to work on the PRU rproc driver
Jun 11 17:01:40 <mdp> ka6sox, I predict that you will find virtio difficult to adapt to anything outside the current scope of it
Jun 11 17:01:41 <panto> -ETOOMANYPROJECTS
Jun 11 17:01:51 <ka6sox> panto,+1
Jun 11 17:02:13 <KotH> mru: http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/157
Jun 11 17:02:21 <ka6sox> so I think I should figure out how to make sram appear to UIO.
Jun 11 17:02:22 <panto> so about PRU virtio
Jun 11 17:02:25 <mdp> ka6sox, that means, if you don't have virt queues in system memory or in virtual memory (for the virtual machine host/guest case) then it probably needs surgery
Jun 11 17:02:33 <mru> KotH: nice one
Jun 11 17:02:34 <Elizabeth_> Hi! I recently wrote a blog post on your beaglebone black and I thought you might want to check it out! http://biptechblog.wordpress.com/2013/06/11/two-other-mini-pcs-to-compare-with-raspberry-pi/
Jun 11 17:02:42 <panto> if you don't mess with the PRU after starting it you'll be ok
Jun 11 17:02:53 <panto> but if you transfer data, you need to handle the caches
Jun 11 17:03:01 <mdp> ka6sox, copy the very simple uio_pruss example
Jun 11 17:03:03 <panto> so that's when hell breaks loose
Jun 11 17:03:21 <ka6sox> mdp, thanks, I will
Jun 11 17:03:26 <mdp> caches and pipelining have ruined the world
Jun 11 17:03:36 <panto> mdp, +1
Jun 11 17:03:40 <panto> 6502 for evah
Jun 11 17:03:55 <KotH> Elizabeth_: i dont want to rain on your parade, but that post doesnt say anything substantial beside "i have seen these three projects"
Jun 11 17:04:04 <mru> panto: http://youtu.be/jQBLGxabQ2Q
Jun 11 17:04:37 <panto> mru, +1
Jun 11 17:05:16 <KotH> ac/dc is still active?
Jun 11 17:05:30 <ka6sox> do rock bands ever DIE?
Jun 11 17:05:37 <KotH> aperantly not
Jun 11 17:05:48 <_Sy_> Evening all :)
Jun 11 17:05:50 <mru> KotH: that's from 2003, allegedly
Jun 11 17:06:02 <KotH> mru: ac/dc was already old when we were young
Jun 11 17:06:33 <panto> KotH, you're still young whippersnapper
Jun 11 17:06:40 <KotH> juup, i am
Jun 11 17:06:44 <KotH> and i'm proud of it
Jun 11 17:07:04 <panto> get off our lawn
Jun 11 17:07:12 <KotH> no sir!
Jun 11 17:07:16 <ka6sox> next week I can take advantage of the "senior discounts"
Jun 11 17:07:17 <KotH> this lawn is my lawn as well!
Jun 11 17:07:18 * panto brings out the hose 
Jun 11 17:07:24 <mdp> "this band may contain additives and preservatives"
Jun 11 17:07:35 <ka6sox> mdp, +1
Jun 11 17:08:59 <mdp> didn't work so well for bon scott though ;)
Jun 11 17:09:17 <ka6sox> I'm surprised any touring band in California doesn't have to carry a Prop65 warning...
Jun 11 17:09:27 <mdp> haha
Jun 11 17:09:38 <ka6sox> "products used by this Band are know by the state of california to cause cancer"
Jun 11 17:09:39 <KotH> Prop65?
Jun 11 17:09:54 <mdp> ka6sox, all those warnings horrify me every time I visit
Jun 11 17:10:04 <mdp> I'm scared to even go in the underground parking garages
Jun 11 17:10:10 <Russ> ka6sox, I'm pretty sure all concerts have prop65 warnings
Jun 11 17:10:12 <mdp> death at every ingress to those things!
Jun 11 17:10:12 <Russ> (in CA)
Jun 11 17:10:35 <Russ> I'm sure the factory that makes the signs has a prop65 warning
Jun 11 17:10:41 <mdp> heh
Jun 11 17:10:51 <Russ> and I'm sure when you buy the signs, they have a prop65 warning
Jun 11 17:10:58 <ka6sox> Russ, it doesn't...its in China
Jun 11 17:11:04 <mdp> +1
Jun 11 17:12:32 * KotH is quite sure the prop65 list does _not_ contain all substances known to cause cancer
Jun 11 17:14:02 <mdp> I'm convinced that it would be cheaper to post signs at the 5-6 locations in .ca.us that do not cause cancer
Jun 11 17:14:07 <KotH> and i think some of the substances listed are produced by our bodies as well
Jun 11 17:14:38 <Russ> the sign is more of one of those religious rituals, to ward off lawsuits
Jun 11 17:14:49 <KotH> lol
Jun 11 17:14:52 <ka6sox> mdp, but then you would put out of work all those guys making the signs!
Jun 11 17:14:53 <KotH> quite right, i'd say
Jun 11 17:14:54 <mdp> I do wish they would use the skull and crossbones poison symbol on the signs
Jun 11 17:15:00 <Russ> it has nothing to do with reality
Jun 11 17:15:07 <mdp> ka6sox, I'm a jobs killer!
Jun 11 17:15:23 <mru> reality is overrated
Jun 11 17:15:28 <KotH> Russ: well... lawsuits in .us are a good thing imho
Jun 11 17:15:47 <ka6sox> KotH, are you a trial lawyer?
Jun 11 17:15:48 <Russ> why? because you aren't here?
Jun 11 17:15:52 <mru> better there than here
Jun 11 17:16:08 <KotH> Russ: we have at least one customer, who moved his whole company from .us to .ch because he couldnt aford the lawsuits that would ensue for sure
Jun 11 17:16:21 <KotH> Russ: and he is one of our best paying customers :)
Jun 11 17:16:26 <Russ> must be so nice for you :p
Jun 11 17:16:26 <mdp> I don't want to put the lawyers on the streets competing for our tech jobs
Jun 11 17:16:47 <KotH> Russ: well.. devlopment of medical devices is quite a no-go in the us
Jun 11 17:17:34 <Russ> *cough* *cough* da vinci
Jun 11 17:17:35 <KotH> lol.. they list alcohol as well!
Jun 11 17:17:53 <KotH> Russ: he wasnt our customer ;)
Jun 11 17:18:15 <mdp> KotH, a friend is involved with the experimental aircraft association here..and the homebuilt aircraft industry around that has some unique company legal structure stuch that if they are sued..they fold up shop and can transfer the aircraft design to a new company that has no legal burden for the incident of the prior company. pretty cool.
Jun 11 17:18:44 <mdp> KotH, always a system to work around these things ;)
Jun 11 17:18:49 <KotH> mdp: oh... do you know how to form such a company?
Jun 11 17:19:01 <KotH> mdp: such knowledge might come handy some time
Jun 11 17:19:04 <mdp> no, but my lawyer does ;)
Jun 11 17:19:09 <Russ> da vinci https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNHgeykDXFw
Jun 11 17:19:20 <KotH> mdp: he wouldnt mind to write up some small note how to do that ? :)
Jun 11 17:19:56 <mdp> that entire industry works that way, according to him. seems generically applicable
Jun 11 17:20:43 <mdp> KotH, tbh, we had a similar exit plan when I was part of a professional services corporation..we'd just close the company..always draining it of enough profit and just leaving essential burn rate in it
Jun 11 17:20:53 <KotH> Russ: hmm... it somehow looks slow and clumsy, to what i'm used to see in surgeries
Jun 11 17:21:04 <mdp> KotH, since any big customer can sue you and have infinitely more legal $$$ to crush you if needed
Jun 11 17:21:13 <KotH> eh..
Jun 11 17:21:22 <KotH> mdp: i'm glad i'm not living in the us
Jun 11 17:21:50 <mdp> and if you are on the board in a startup like that, you also have to carry personal insurance as you can be individually sued
Jun 11 17:22:14 <ka6sox> mdp, the sram DT fragment sets the pool location for the uio driver?
Jun 11 17:22:18 <_av500_> mru: there, I just jaybiked
Jun 11 17:22:18 <ka6sox> (the sram pool)
Jun 11 17:22:26 <mdp> KotH, it's just part of the system, you get that advice from your corporate and contracts lawyer here how to organize to be protected
Jun 11 17:23:05 <mru> _av500_: meaning?
Jun 11 17:23:19 <_av500_> like jaywalking, but on a bike
Jun 11 17:23:26 <mru> cycling on the pavement?
Jun 11 17:23:33 <_av500_> omg. yes
Jun 11 17:23:37 <_av500_> that too
Jun 11 17:23:43 <_av500_> sinned enough for today
Jun 11 17:23:53 <_av500_> I sin therefore I am
Jun 11 17:24:00 <ka6sox> its in your nature
Jun 11 17:24:01 <KotH> mdp: still.. i mean... i dont even have a legal insurance
Jun 11 17:24:14 <KotH> mdp: most stuf i cannot getting sued for anyways
Jun 11 17:24:47 <KotH> mdp: the only reason in .ch to have a legal insurance is, if _you_ plan to sue someone
Jun 11 17:25:15 <KotH> mdp: oh.. and suing your employer is for free
Jun 11 17:25:17 <KotH> :)
Jun 11 17:25:28 <KotH> (covered by your employer or state)
Jun 11 17:25:47 <mdp> KotH, it's somewhat commonplace here that when you acquire a certain level of assets..to have a personal "umbrealla" bit of liability insurance..as if you accidentally maim someone in an auto accident..required automobile insurance will be tapped out long before the victims $3M+ in hospital costs are covered
Jun 11 17:25:58 <mdp> er, umbrella
Jun 11 17:26:21 <KotH> mdp: ah.. yeah.. we have that too. every car (not the driver) has an insurance
Jun 11 17:27:09 <KotH> mdp: but then, even if you need it for something like this. you personaly never pay much
Jun 11 17:28:13 <mdp> KotH, if you self-manage your retirement fund, like most people here now..you have to protect it like that
Jun 11 17:28:19 <KotH> the legal structure in .ch is made up in a way, that as a person, you dont need to pay more than a couple of thousand on anything, unless you behave in a criminal way
Jun 11 17:28:28 <KotH> wtf?
Jun 11 17:28:37 <mdp> KotH, or you can be ignorant and have something happen and lose everything
Jun 11 17:28:41 <mdp> ;)
Jun 11 17:28:57 <KotH> retiremend founds in .ch are protected by law... protection going so far that you yourself cannot touch it until you are retired
Jun 11 17:29:37 <KotH> mdp: you are giving me more reasons why i should never set a foot onto usian soil
Jun 11 17:29:55 <mdp> KotH, our protected funds have a limited yearly investment..anything in cash accounts is a target in litigation
Jun 11 17:30:54 <mdp> KotH, there are tradeoffs
Jun 11 17:32:37 <KotH> mdp: i dont think there is anything i would trade my freedom for
Jun 11 17:34:33 <_Sy_> What is the general thinking on cross platform development for the BBB?  Good thing or just making life more difficult?
Jun 11 17:34:37 <mdp> ahh, but every country has their freedoms they trade-off ;)
Jun 11 17:34:52 <mranostay> KotH: you'd trade it for chocolate
Jun 11 17:36:46 <KotH> mdp: from what i hear, you traded almost all your freedom for bad tv shows, a government that likes to spend tax money in needless wars, and half the country with less education than a homeless in tokyo
Jun 11 17:37:11 <KotH> mranostay: chocolate is my FREEEEEEDOOOOOOM! :-)
Jun 11 17:37:58 <mdp> KotH, hehe, that's a pretty subjective analysis
Jun 11 17:38:59 <Cherry> hiiiii
Jun 11 17:39:17 <KotH> mdp: ofc it's subjective. it came out of my keyboard :)
Jun 11 17:39:49 <Cherry> i wanna buy BeagleBone Black  iam in Hyderabad
Jun 11 17:39:59 * mranostay pulls out the map
Jun 11 17:40:09 <KotH> is the BBB on ITAR?
Jun 11 17:40:49 <bert_> I am trying to access a GPMC configured address within userspace (via devmem), but "Bus error" is returned
Jun 11 17:40:53 <mranostay> i don't believe so
Jun 11 17:40:55 <Cherry> how buy BeagleBone Black in india
Jun 11 17:41:10 <bert_> I have set the power control of "omap-gpmc" to "on"
Jun 11 17:41:30 <bert_> Any pointers where to look?
Jun 11 17:44:10 <panto> bert_, take a look at the cssp_camera driver
Jun 11 17:44:17 <panto> and the BB-BONE-CAM3 cape
Jun 11 17:44:35 <panto> don't, just don't even try to do via dev2mem
Jun 11 17:45:23 <bert_> someone wrote a toturial about it: http://engineersofthecorn.blogspot.de/2012/06/faux-gpmc-interfacing-with-beaglebone.html
Jun 11 17:45:50 <mranostay> hmmm i wonder who that was
Jun 11 17:46:24 <_av500_> Cherry: see the list of retailers
Jun 11 17:46:35 <panto> lol
Jun 11 17:46:49 <bert_> panto: the cssp_camera is multiplexed synchronous
Jun 11 17:46:49 <panto> mdp, I blame you!
Jun 11 17:47:02 <panto> bert_, doesn't matter, the config method is the same
Jun 11 17:47:20 <bert_> I'd like to do asynchronous, non multiplexed
Jun 11 17:49:26 <bert_> panto: in fact I copied most of the configuation of the cssp
Jun 11 17:49:35 <bert_> so I guess multiplexing is OK
Jun 11 17:49:45 <bert_> what else might lead to a bus error
Jun 11 17:50:38 <bert_> Is it allowed to access the GPMC mapped memory space from userspace
Jun 11 17:51:09 <panto> you can't access it as memory
Jun 11 17:51:28 * ka6sox listens intently
Jun 11 17:51:33 <bert_> so writing a dummy kernel-module is the best way to debug it?
Jun 11 17:51:50 <panto> here's the devil
Jun 11 17:52:02 <panto> bert_, meet the corn engineer mdp
Jun 11 17:52:31 <bert_> he is the one, who wrote the gpmc tutorial?
Jun 11 17:52:48 <panto> the one and only
Jun 11 17:52:50 <panto> *fight*
Jun 11 17:52:55 <bert_> :-)
Jun 11 17:53:16 <bert_> mdp: what's the best way to debug a GPMC connection
Jun 11 17:53:19 <KotH> all hail master MDP!
Jun 11 17:53:42 <bert_> my logic analyzer cannot sample 100MHz
Jun 11 17:53:53 <kfoltman> I bet Allwinner GPIO can run 100 MHz
Jun 11 17:54:12 <bert_> so its more or less trial and error
Jun 11 17:54:19 <KotH> bert_: get an asix sigma2
Jun 11 17:54:48 <mdp> what?
Jun 11 17:54:49 * mdp hides
Jun 11 17:54:59 <bert_> fair price
Jun 11 17:55:25 <KotH> i have not tested it with 200MHz yet, but for what i used it, it works pretty well
Jun 11 17:55:41 <mdp> kfoltman, with the proper fex file, yes, it can do like 4GHz and bitbang a SATA/PCIe serdes
Jun 11 17:56:03 * mdp steers things off the cliff again
Jun 11 17:56:30 <mdp> ka6sox, I just refreshed my memory on some things I didn't upstream for uio_pruss, btw
Jun 11 17:56:43 <kfoltman> mdp: and you can edit probe definitions in a text file, too, I bet!
Jun 11 17:57:13 <bert_> mdp: I am struggling with the GPMC
Jun 11 17:57:21 <mdp> kfoltman, I recommend notepad.exe..you can run that in wine
Jun 11 17:57:35 <bert_> mdp: as soon as I access it using devmem I get a bus error
Jun 11 17:57:41 <mdp> bert_, hrm
Jun 11 17:57:46 <mdp> using that blog post I wrote?
Jun 11 17:57:53 <bert_> mtp: muxing is copied from cssp
Jun 11 17:58:16 <Rickta59> anyone in here use net4501 boards? I have a friend who wants to unload about 72 of them for a good price
Jun 11 17:58:35 <kfoltman> mdp: is that some reference I missed? (BTW, don't laugh, I think wine regedit.exe might still contain my code)
Jun 11 17:58:51 <KotH> Rickta59: i stay away from anything soekris produced since soren himself called me an idiot for buying one of his devices
Jun 11 17:59:09 <mdp> bert_, http://engineersofthecorn.blogspot.com/2012/06/faux-gpmc-interfacing-with-beaglebone.html ?
Jun 11 17:59:10 <KotH> Rickta59: but tell your friend to contact the time-nuts mailinglist
Jun 11 17:59:21 <Rickta59> k thanks
Jun 11 17:59:31 <KotH> Rickta59: there might be people who want an net4501 there
Jun 11 17:59:36 <mdp> kfoltman, we were kidding about fex being INI-style yesterday ;)
Jun 11 17:59:47 <KotH> mdp: that wasnt a joke
Jun 11 17:59:52 <mdp> heh
Jun 11 18:00:12 <mdp> it's only funny because it's true
Jun 11 18:00:24 <KotH> juup
Jun 11 18:00:44 <kfoltman> mdp: oh well, I use INI files for wrong purpose too, http://repo.or.cz/w/calfbox.git/blob/ac1243b033985ca9a6c445ec64164d54af387169:/cboxrc-example
Jun 11 18:00:46 <KotH> hmm...
Jun 11 18:00:50 <bert_> mdp: yes, even when using the tutorial
Jun 11 18:00:53 <KotH> EVIL VENDOR FEX JIHAD!
Jun 11 18:00:55 <ka6sox> mdp, can those be pushed up?
Jun 11 18:01:01 <bert_> mdp: I built my own kernel
Jun 11 18:01:02 <kfoltman> nothing technically wrong with INI files
Jun 11 18:01:06 <ka6sox> or at least to EVT?
Jun 11 18:01:07 <kfoltman> well, almost
Jun 11 18:01:15 <bert_> mdp: is there some option, that must be set?
Jun 11 18:03:46 <bert_> mdp: I have pasted by config to http://pastebin.com/5Shrj6qx
Jun 11 18:04:11 <bert_> I you might have a look
Jun 11 18:04:22 <bert_> if you might have a look
Jun 11 18:04:51 <ka6sox> I think our EOTC went over the cliff
Jun 11 18:04:57 <ka6sox> yup
Jun 11 18:05:05 <ka6sox> suspicion confirmed!
Jun 11 18:06:50 <bert_> any pointers, why a bus error can occur?
Jun 11 18:07:12 * KotH points at the kernel code
Jun 11 18:07:15 <mranostay> pointers is one possiblity :P
Jun 11 18:07:31 <ka6sox> mranostay, so is the phase of the moon
Jun 11 18:08:08 <ka6sox> bert_, we need to wait for master mdp to reappear from his hiatus
Jun 11 18:08:14 <bert_> ok, so best way to debug it using the gpmc_* routines from TI within some kernel module and trace with the logic analyzer you mentioned
Jun 11 18:08:18 * mdp is connected over a failing broadband modem atm
Jun 11 18:08:41 <kfoltman> or a failing atm modem? (-:
Jun 11 18:09:09 <mdp> a logic analyzer is your best debug tool for gpmc programming
Jun 11 18:09:10 <ka6sox> docsis 1.0
Jun 11 18:09:20 <mdp> it's critical to be able to observe the timing of each signal
Jun 11 18:09:29 <KotH> docsis doesnt sound like atm
Jun 11 18:09:39 <mdp> and on the other side..printk is your friend to see you got the right values in the registers
Jun 11 18:09:42 <bert_> but why does it show a bus error
Jun 11 18:09:42 <mdp> that's pretty much it
Jun 11 18:09:50 <ka6sox> koth atm = at this moment
Jun 11 18:10:03 * KotH knows
Jun 11 18:10:09 <ka6sox> d0h
Jun 11 18:10:19 <bert_> I would exspect some wrong values
Jun 11 18:10:22 <kfoltman> it was just asking for a bad pun
Jun 11 18:10:23 * KotH knows the other atm as well ;)
Jun 11 18:10:25 <mdp> bert_, that's typically an unimplemented adress access
Jun 11 18:10:44 <mdp> kfoltman, bahaha..docsis3 modem to be exact
Jun 11 18:10:48 <bert_> but if its configured to be asynchronous it must return some value (even when floating)
Jun 11 18:10:53 * mdp checks for amazon packages
Jun 11 18:10:56 <bert_> ok
Jun 11 18:10:56 <wednesday> has anyone noticed the BBB ubuntu images have no ssh in rc[n].d ?
Jun 11 18:11:03 <kfoltman> bert: doesn't that sound like a MPU/memory mapping error rather than hardware problem?
Jun 11 18:11:25 <bert_> mdp: what would happen if I do access an unimplemented address space within the kernel
Jun 11 18:11:30 <bert_> upps?
Jun 11 18:11:38 <KotH> bert_: have you read ldd3?
Jun 11 18:11:45 <ka6sox> mdp, are any of those unpushed things something I might need?
Jun 11 18:12:16 <bert_> KotH: well, in fact I like to do it in user-space using UIO drivers
Jun 11 18:12:23 <bert_> thus mmap should be enough
Jun 11 18:12:27 <mdp> bert_, which command is causing  a bus error
Jun 11 18:12:27 <KotH> bert_: that was not my question
Jun 11 18:12:32 <KotH> bert_: have you read the ldd3?
Jun 11 18:12:42 <mdp> assuming you are doing it from devmem2 hackery
Jun 11 18:12:55 <bert_> KotH: a year ago
Jun 11 18:13:00 <mdp> ka6sox, you know, if you are using evil 3.8 then it should all be there
Jun 11 18:13:01 <KotH> good
Jun 11 18:13:14 <ka6sox> mdp, thanks
Jun 11 18:13:25 <ka6sox> and yes, I'm on evt 3.8
Jun 11 18:13:31 <bert_> mdp: reading a half word from some address, that was meant to be configured correctly
Jun 11 18:13:36 <mdp> what is "evt"?
Jun 11 18:13:53 <ka6sox> Evil Vendor Tree
Jun 11 18:13:55 <mdp> bert_, most likely your address window is not enabled
Jun 11 18:13:57 <mdp> oh ;)
Jun 11 18:14:25 <bert_> what's an address window?
Jun 11 18:14:37 <KotH> bert_: you want to read ldd3 again
Jun 11 18:14:58 <mdp> bert_, when configuring the GPMC, you are setting up decoders to respond to an arbitrary address range
Jun 11 18:15:25 <bert_> sure, they are mapped to physically avilable addresses
Jun 11 18:15:45 <mdp> bert_, in my example, I set up the CS0 one to respond at base address 0x01000000 as a 16MB region
Jun 11 18:15:47 <bert_> that's why mmap /dev/mem should make them available to userspace
Jun 11 18:16:13 <mdp> if you get a bus error, then you didn't get the gpmc set up right
Jun 11 18:16:15 <bert_> mdp: I took your example as starting point
Jun 11 18:16:18 <mdp> guaranteed
Jun 11 18:16:45 <mdp> i.e. let's say you forget to poke offset 0x78 and activate it..you access <my address> and it bus errors
Jun 11 18:16:47 <bert_> ok, as I said, I built a custom linux kernel using the RT patches
Jun 11 18:16:48 <mdp> that's the symptom
Jun 11 18:17:02 <bert_> may there be something wrong with the enabled options?
Jun 11 18:17:04 <mdp> I recommend doublechecking your chip select configuration versus the TRM
Jun 11 18:17:43 <mdp> there are also limitations on the base address that can be configured within the range of the gpmc portion of the memory map
Jun 11 18:18:01 <mdp> pretty much..there's a huge number of things that can be misconfigured to result in this symptom
Jun 11 18:18:08 <bert_> ...
Jun 11 18:18:11 <bert_> for sure
Jun 11 18:18:36 <mdp> if you can paste a dump of your gpmc register configuration, somebody can look at it
Jun 11 18:18:41 <ka6sox> mdp, you are making me worried about 2 separate blocks for my app now
Jun 11 18:19:05 <bert_> mdp: the problem is that even when I am using yours it fails
Jun 11 18:19:12 <mdp> I see
Jun 11 18:19:16 <mdp> that's very interesting
Jun 11 18:19:25 <bert_> so it must be something with my kernel configuration
Jun 11 18:19:36 <mdp> possibly
Jun 11 18:19:38 <bert_> I did some userspace access on the SPI module a month ago
Jun 11 18:19:48 <bert_> I had force the PM to enable power
Jun 11 18:20:12 <bert_> but it doesn't help me with the gpmc
Jun 11 18:20:20 <mdp> bert_, were you using 3.8?
Jun 11 18:20:36 <bert_> mdp: 3.2.34, see http://pastebin.com/5Shrj6qx
Jun 11 18:20:56 <bert_> beaglebone, not the black edition
Jun 11 18:21:08 <mdp> ok, I will try to "retry" this later, I have to do some dayjob stuff now though
Jun 11 18:21:18 * ka6sox wonders if DT has control over power/clock domains...
Jun 11 18:21:27 <panto> ka6sox, not yet
Jun 11 18:21:41 <mdp> ka6sox, there's the implicit control that marking a node "okay" has
Jun 11 18:21:53 <KotH> ka6sox: with the right incantation ;)
Jun 11 18:22:04 <mdp> i.e. the hwmod gets enabled
Jun 11 18:22:16 <mdp> in the magical weird land of omap
Jun 11 18:22:29 <bert_> mdp: what's the best way to proceed?
Jun 11 18:23:07 <bert_> mdp: my next step is to write a kernel driver, that enabled the GPMC using the TI gmpc_* routines and try to read and write within kernel space
Jun 11 18:23:18 <bert_> do you have a better idea to debug?
Jun 11 18:23:27 <mdp> bert_, try the 2012.05.31 image linked on the blog post
Jun 11 18:23:38 <mdp> verify that my #exactsteps work on that..then let's go from there
Jun 11 18:23:58 <bert_> mdp: ok
Jun 11 18:24:03 <mdp> I think I put that there to be 100% sure there was a known starting point as the steps have a tendency to break as the kernel changes
Jun 11 18:24:12 <mdp> especially for something low-level like this
Jun 11 18:24:29 <mdp> and tbh, this is by far the most trivial of all gpmc examples I could come up with
Jun 11 18:24:53 <bert_> mdp: I have read in the TI forums, that you are not allowed to change the muxing within userspace
Jun 11 18:24:54 <mdp> so, it's probably going to be worth uplifting a version of this to work on the EVT 3.8 kernel RSN
Jun 11 18:25:21 <bert_> mdp: your exampled worked for me
Jun 11 18:25:31 <mdp> bert_, that refers to the fact that access to the control module registers is privileged
Jun 11 18:25:44 <mdp> have to be supervisor..which you aren't when you mmap registers
Jun 11 18:26:00 <mdp> but omap_mux is a kernel driver accessing those regs in supervisor state
Jun 11 18:26:16 <bert_> mdp: thus I need to build a kernel-module, that sets up the muxing for me?
Jun 11 18:26:20 <mdp> so broad statements like that on e2e forums can be wrong
Jun 11 18:26:27 <bert_> or is there some work-around?
Jun 11 18:26:32 <mdp> bert_, on the 3.8 kernel you would load a DT overlay
Jun 11 18:26:37 <mdp> to set the pinmuxing
Jun 11 18:26:45 * mdp looks for the magic link
Jun 11 18:26:59 <bert_> yeah, I googled for this too
Jun 11 18:27:11 <bert_> so, its upgrading to 3.8
Jun 11 18:27:18 <mdp> we just wrote a doc for this
Jun 11 18:27:26 <_av500_> apt get install 3.8
Jun 11 18:27:51 <bert_> that would be awesome
Jun 11 18:28:07 <mdp> http://elinux.org/Capemgr
Jun 11 18:28:22 <mdp> and..anybody have the panto/ka6sox/mdp doc link handy?
Jun 11 18:28:32 <mdp> I don't see it linked from the elinux beaglebone pages :(
Jun 11 18:28:50 <mdp> http://elinux.org/BeagleBone_and_the_3.8_Kernel
Jun 11 18:28:51 <mdp> nm
Jun 11 18:29:19 <mdp> bert_, ok, really got run..others can help if you run into problems getting 3.8 going
Jun 11 18:29:32 <bert_> mdp: thanks very much
Jun 11 18:29:38 <bert_> I have to go too
Jun 11 18:29:40 <_av500_> mdp: but in 3.8 he has no omap_mux
Jun 11 18:30:16 <mdp> I gave the link to both docs covering fragments with examples of pinmuxing
Jun 11 18:30:30 <mdp> _av500_, and I recognize your troll, btw ;)
Jun 11 18:30:53 <ka6sox> bert_, did I miss what board this is?
Jun 11 18:31:23 <bert_> ka6sox: custom board, 16bit asynchronous interface
Jun 11 18:31:31 <ka6sox> kk
Jun 11 18:45:40 <mastiff_> Hi ka6sox.
Jun 11 18:47:11 <ka6sox> morning
Jun 11 18:48:21 <mastiff_> It's almost 2pm my time, but just having breakfast, was up late getting debian running on one of my BBBs.
Jun 11 18:49:02 <ka6sox> fun
Jun 11 18:49:05 <ka6sox> okay work calls
Jun 11 18:49:15 <mastiff_> The usb bluetooth adapter I was having issues with under angstrom works with debian.
Jun 11 18:49:18 <Rickta59> http://www.ebay.com/itm/290840138925?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
Jun 11 18:49:29 <Rickta59> ok .. so this works for connecting to a vga monitor
Jun 11 18:49:35 <Rickta59> just in case anyone needs one
Jun 11 18:49:36 <mastiff_> What's the latest on BCC cape?
Jun 11 18:50:07 <mastiff_> I can't finish mine for a few days until the headers arrive.
Jun 11 18:51:02 <mastiff_> ah, ok catch up later
Jun 11 19:01:06 <Kristina> Hmm.
Jun 11 19:01:34 <_av500_> mmH
Jun 11 19:01:40 <_av500_> Kristina: any luck?
Jun 11 19:02:09 <Kristina> Now doesn't matter what I put into the framebuffer, it ends up being either black or white.
Jun 11 19:02:13 <Kristina> Or grey
Jun 11 19:04:46 <_av500_> so you start from uboot?
Jun 11 19:04:54 <_av500_> and then what do you set up in dss?
Jun 11 19:05:00 <_av500_> timing and resoltion?
Jun 11 19:05:03 <Kristina> I reinit the DISPC.
Jun 11 19:05:09 <_av500_> and what is connected?
Jun 11 19:05:13 <Kristina> _av500_: If I point the FB to a random chunk in mem, I get colours.
Jun 11 19:05:14 <_av500_> hdmi?
Jun 11 19:05:24 <_av500_> Kristina: colors as in?
Jun 11 19:05:32 <Kristina> _av500_: If I allocate a buffer and memset it to 0xff0000ff I get white.
Jun 11 19:07:03 <mru> of course you do
Jun 11 19:07:12 <Kristina> Isn't that red?
Jun 11 19:07:21 <Kristina> gDispC->gfx_attributes = DISPC_GFXFORMAT_RGBA32 | DISPC_GFXENABLE | DISPC_GFXBURSTSIZE_16x32;
Jun 11 19:10:00 <_av500_> and a go bit
Jun 11 19:10:04 <_av500_> alwys a go bit
Jun 11 19:10:23 <Kristina> _av500_: http://crna.cc/42shvFR5aVC0nWB
Jun 11 19:12:30 <_av500_> and the timing stuff?
Jun 11 19:12:33 <_av500_> clocks
Jun 11 19:12:35 <_av500_> etc..
Jun 11 19:12:52 <Kristina> _av500_: http://crna.cc/8jccvn881ZH0xZd
Jun 11 19:13:40 <Kristina> the timing is fine, it actually works (if I point it to a random chunk of kernel memory, I can see stuff change)
Jun 11 19:13:56 <Kristina> lots of coloured dots
Jun 11 19:14:20 <_av500_> ah ok
Jun 11 19:14:35 <_av500_> so it basically works
Jun 11 19:14:40 <_av500_> :)
Jun 11 19:14:49 <_av500_> this on DVI out?
Jun 11 19:14:52 <Kristina> yes
Jun 11 19:14:59 <mranostay> _av500_: urandom video is awesome
Jun 11 19:15:03 <Kristina> but now, the FB I allocate is always white
Jun 11 19:15:28 <Kristina> so I'm messing with memsetting chunks of it
Jun 11 19:15:32 <Kristina> to figure out why it does that
Jun 11 19:16:16 <_av500_> what is your phys addr when you print it?
Jun 11 19:16:31 <Kristina> _av500_: 80A09000
Jun 11 19:17:08 <_av500_> ok
Jun 11 19:17:34 <_av500_> if you see the random pixels, basically the setup looks fine
Jun 11 19:17:42 <_av500_> all is left to point ba0 to a good address
Jun 11 19:27:54 <dogfishing> hi...is anyone having problems with the display being cutoff on the left side and top and bottom when connected via HDMI even after changing the monitor's wide setting to normal?
Jun 11 19:28:33 <dogfishing> this is the beagle bone black
Jun 11 19:29:07 <Kristina> oh
Jun 11 19:29:12 <Kristina> memset takes a uchar
Jun 11 19:29:16 <Kristina> I thought it was uint32
Jun 11 19:29:18 <Kristina> oops
Jun 11 19:29:24 <Kristina> I'm such an idiot.
Jun 11 19:30:03 <Rickta59> panto, http://pastebin.com/GA2sqRGi earlier you had asked for xrand -q output
Jun 11 19:30:49 <_av500_> Kristina: er, yes :)
Jun 11 19:31:03 <_av500_> I saw it, but my brain put memset32 :)
Jun 11 19:31:16 <_av500_> dogfishing: overscan
Jun 11 19:31:23 <_av500_> look for a setting in your TV
Jun 11 19:31:58 <Kristina> That's why it was white.
Jun 11 19:33:28 <mru> memset actually takes an int but strips the high bits
Jun 11 19:34:00 <mru> that distinction occasionally matters
Jun 11 19:34:41 <dogfishing> there is no overscan setting on the tv (at least not the standard menus)...it is a apex el1910, a cheap 19" TV from target that I bought as a monitor specifically for the beagle board
Jun 11 19:35:10 <mru> get a proper one
Jun 11 19:36:14 <dogfishing> get a proper tv?
Jun 11 19:38:10 <_av500_> yes
Jun 11 19:38:22 <_av500_> overscan is a feature of the display
Jun 11 19:38:31 <mru> misfeature
Jun 11 19:38:36 <_av500_> of course one can teach X to only use the center bits
Jun 11 19:38:42 <_av500_> but std angstrom does not do that
Jun 11 19:39:09 <mru> good luck getting pixel for pixel matching
Jun 11 19:40:36 <dogfishing> it is a proper TV.....not all TVs have it available on the menu....why doesn't the beaglebone black have a proper f-ing display driver...ive tried this on three tvs already and no image is displayed and I got this piece of junk specifically for the beagle board...the image shows up but it is cut off...so how many f-ing tvs am i supposed to go through before i get one that works....
Jun 11 19:40:49 <mru> forced overscan is not proper
Jun 11 19:40:52 <mru> get a proper tv
Jun 11 19:41:25 <mru> take the board to the shop and try tvs until you find one that works
Jun 11 19:41:35 <mru> any proper shop will let you do that
Jun 11 19:41:59 <pru_evtou> ugh, overscan. friggin stupid tvs
Jun 11 19:42:07 <mru> proper shops also sell proper tvs
Jun 11 19:42:40 <pru_evtou> it's awesome when a "1080p" tv only includes the overscan pixels. lol.
Jun 11 19:42:51 <dm8tbr> overscan on lcd is just stupid
Jun 11 19:42:57 <pru_evtou> seriously.
Jun 11 19:42:59 <mru> overscan is _always_ stupid
Jun 11 19:43:08 <pru_evtou> it's a digital display...overscan is absolutely pointless.
Jun 11 19:43:18 <mru> it's pointless on _any_ display
Jun 11 19:43:21 <dm8tbr> supposedly there was a reason, 30ys ago or so
Jun 11 19:43:25 <dogfishing> have you been in bestbuy, target, or any other big box store....they aren't going to let you stand there and connect your beaglebone to their tvs....the issue here is not just overscan the issue is with the damn driver that they use
Jun 11 19:43:27 <mru> my old crt computer monitors did not do it
Jun 11 19:43:39 <pru_evtou> especially when there aren't any analog inputs! :D
Jun 11 19:43:41 <mru> why should a tv need it?
Jun 11 19:43:53 <pru_evtou> well, old tvs DID need it
Jun 11 19:43:57 <mru> bull
Jun 11 19:44:03 <pru_evtou> there was junk broadcast along with the image
Jun 11 19:44:09 <pru_evtou> that you could only block with overscan
Jun 11 19:44:10 <mru> I'm perfectly capable of ignoring that
Jun 11 19:44:15 <pru_evtou> but, it's not 1980 anymore.
Jun 11 19:44:48 <pru_evtou> mru, consumers don't like flickering colors and dots blinking like mad around the image thei're trying to watch.
Jun 11 19:44:59 <pru_evtou> you're not a consumer.
Jun 11 19:45:03 <mru> then make it adjustable
Jun 11 19:45:05 <pru_evtou> you're a wizard.
Jun 11 19:45:10 <mranostay> troll
Jun 11 19:45:18 <_av500_> pru_evtou: no
Jun 11 19:45:19 <mranostay> easy mistake
Jun 11 19:45:20 <panto> Rickta59, thx
Jun 11 19:45:22 <_av500_> old TVs did not overscan
Jun 11 19:45:25 <_av500_> they cropped
Jun 11 19:45:31 <_av500_> with that plasitc bezel
Jun 11 19:45:32 * _troll_ is the troll
Jun 11 19:45:32 <pru_evtou> what!? you suggest they had an adjustable amplitude on the deflection coils!?!?
Jun 11 19:45:53 <mru> good monitors certainly did
Jun 11 19:45:54 <pru_evtou> _av500_: not true for all
Jun 11 19:46:05 <_av500_> for all recent CRTs
Jun 11 19:46:06 <pru_evtou> i had tvs that i took apart...plastic bezel was basically the edge of the screen.
Jun 11 19:46:11 <pru_evtou> still, definitely had an overscan.
Jun 11 19:46:28 <Rickta59> that is with an hdmi->dvi passive converter connected to an old dell monitor
Jun 11 19:46:41 <panto> bbt
Jun 11 19:47:15 <pru_evtou> but, any way you look at it, fixed overscan is a cost saving strategy.
Jun 11 19:47:34 <panto> Rickta59, do all of these modes work?
Jun 11 19:47:35 <mru> what you save in cost you lose in anger
Jun 11 19:47:52 <pru_evtou> which damages your very soul.
Jun 11 19:48:02 <pru_evtou> so, overscan = soul damage.
Jun 11 19:48:02 <_av500_> mru: most consumers never notice
Jun 11 19:48:05 <Rickta59> i could try .. haven't messed with changing it
Jun 11 19:48:13 <_av500_> they do not notice 4:3 being strechted
Jun 11 19:48:14 <mru> I sold my soul long ago
Jun 11 19:48:21 <mru> what little was left of it
Jun 11 19:48:25 <_av500_> or awful colors
Jun 11 19:48:46 <mru> or terrible compression artifacts
Jun 11 19:48:49 <pru_evtou> or crazy stretching/cropping from 16x9 and 4x3 mismatch
Jun 11 19:48:59 <_av500_> yes
Jun 11 19:49:13 <mru> or complete lack of plot
Jun 11 19:49:26 <_av500_> even my tech friend did not notice his bose system was forcing his TV into 720p
Jun 11 19:49:35 <pru_evtou> with little to no character development
Jun 11 19:49:35 <mru> bose lol
Jun 11 19:49:45 <_av500_> since the bose was a MITM on the hdmi
Jun 11 19:49:55 <pru_evtou> nice!
Jun 11 19:50:07 * mru would not buy anything from bose
Jun 11 19:51:08 <pru_evtou> what, are you one of those elitist audiophiles that like "mids"? pfft. mids are for losers. bass is king.
Jun 11 19:51:12 * _av500_ goes to wield the circular saw, finally something useful today
Jun 11 19:56:55 <Rickta59> http://pastebin.com/wDF0EezC panto .. most worked
Jun 11 19:58:01 * KotH wishes all soulles and circular saw wielding beings a good night
Jun 11 20:00:22 <mru> circular soul
Jun 11 20:10:24 <ds2> mru: that's a good thing... fewer corner cases to deal with
Jun 11 20:17:21 <Kristina> _av500_: I did it!
Jun 11 20:17:23 <Kristina> http://crna.cc/OqVw8OVfmm7hxLO
Jun 11 20:18:41 <Russ> welcome to hell 2.0?
Jun 11 20:19:33 <kfoltman> Kristina: what was wrong?
Jun 11 20:20:09 <kfoltman> (av500 might or might not hear you, depending on his circular saw skills)
Jun 11 20:20:19 <Kristina> Russ: new implementation of rtc code
Jun 11 20:24:44 <mranostay> screenshot of a kernel panic?
Jun 11 20:25:45 <mru> I think that qualifies for the tuesday blurrycam award
Jun 11 20:26:40 <Russ> sorry mranostay, time up your blurrycam game
Jun 11 20:33:17 <mranostay> Russ: can't now at work
Jun 11 20:33:33 * mranostay makes note
Jun 11 20:35:32 <Kristina> mranostay: I got the framebuffer to work though!
Jun 11 20:36:21 <mru> sure that didn't cause the panic?
Jun 11 20:50:26 <arbitraryuser> Hi... perhaps I'm being dumb, but http://beagleboard.org/Products/BeagleBone says it has HDMI, but I can't see any HDMI headers?
Jun 11 20:50:42 <mru> micro
Jun 11 20:51:15 <mru> looks almost like microusb
Jun 11 20:54:22 <kfoltman> mru: if a kernel panics but there's no console to see it, does it still panic?
Jun 11 20:55:13 <mru> insmod philosophy.ko
Jun 11 21:06:22 <_av500_> Kristina: \o/
Jun 11 21:06:36 <_av500_> Kristina: next step, HD video decode
Jun 11 21:07:14 <_av500_> omg, yocto added me
Jun 11 21:07:20 <_av500_> block or report?
Jun 11 21:07:35 * mru is pondering the same thing
Jun 11 21:07:47 <mru> are they mutually exclusive?
Jun 11 21:08:38 <mranostay> or troll
Jun 11 21:08:48 <mru> always troll
Jun 11 21:09:13 <Crofton|work> what did they add you to? The list of known trolls?
Jun 11 21:10:50 <mru> I see a lot of trolls in its circles
Jun 11 21:12:21 <Russ> mdp, where did you get your ribbon cables for breadboarding?
Jun 11 21:16:44 <Kristina> kfoltman: Well, I have UART too :)
Jun 11 21:18:11 <kfoltman> Kristina: well, UART is always a nice thing to have
Jun 11 21:18:22 <Kristina> I have UART and JTAG.
Jun 11 21:18:27 <Kristina> Thank god for that.
Jun 11 21:18:41 <kfoltman> JTAG, that's almost excessive level of luxury :D
Jun 11 21:18:51 <kfoltman> But, yes, for kernel work...
Jun 11 21:18:55 <Kristina> kfoltman: A necessity when doing bringup.
Jun 11 21:19:30 <Kristina> It saves you hours if not days when things don't work as they should and you have no other way of talking to the HW.
Jun 11 21:21:34 <mdp> Russ, http://www.ebay.com/itm/40-Pin-30cm-Dupont-Wire-Connector-Cable-2-54mm-Male-to-Male-1P-1P-For-Arduino-/390608520298?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5af215046a
Jun 11 21:21:54 <Russ> ah, bummer, the endls are all loose
Jun 11 21:21:56 <Russ> er, ends
Jun 11 21:22:03 <mdp> Russ, I had a .us seller of this in the "noelec" store on ebay for similar prices..they only have 20cm f2f and m2f now
Jun 11 21:22:28 <mdp> yeah, all flying ends for my breadboarding purposes
Jun 11 21:22:55 <mdp> it's useful for data buses like I have on the 6502 thing
Jun 11 21:28:05 <ds2> jtag is not needed for kernel work
Jun 11 21:28:25 <mru> printk
Jun 11 21:28:42 <kfoltman> mru: assuming you get to the point where you can printk? :|
Jun 11 21:28:49 <Kristina> That's the point.
Jun 11 21:28:53 <Russ> ds2, I've found it somewhat useful when debugging suspend/resume failures
Jun 11 21:29:04 <mru> wiggle a gpio then
Jun 11 21:29:12 <Russ> course, I've also found a while(1) loop and a multimeter useful
Jun 11 21:29:29 <Kristina> Need to do VM init before we can even map out IO ranges.
Jun 11 21:29:44 <ssi> yeah jtag is pretty nice since you can't strap a logic analyzer on the cpu pins like you can on a z80 or 6502 :)
Jun 11 21:29:48 <Kristina> Until that - semihosting or writing to a buffer and dumping it via debugger.
Jun 11 21:30:07 <ds2> Russ: don't some of the setups nuke jtag when they suspend?
Jun 11 21:30:19 <Kristina> A logic analyzer would be useful for tracing execution, but not for getting meaningful messages out.
Jun 11 21:30:28 <Russ> yes, they have a clock that can be gated, very frustrating
Jun 11 21:30:39 <Russ> It can even get difficult to access gpios
Jun 11 21:30:47 <Kristina> And again, that assumes you can actually access the GPIO registers.
Jun 11 21:30:49 <Russ> that's why the while(1)/multimeter debugging method can be useful
Jun 11 21:31:00 <ds2> yep
Jun 11 21:31:08 <ds2> I wonder if a virtual chart recorder can do better
Jun 11 21:31:10 <Russ> (measuring power consumption)
Jun 11 21:31:31 <Russ> I'm looking at possibly getting one of these http://www.mccdaq.com/usb-data-acquisition/USB-201.aspx
Jun 11 21:31:52 <Kristina> I have a 200Mhz logic analyzer with an oscilloscope.
Jun 11 21:31:55 <mru> in the old days you'd just put some popcorn on the cpu and listen
Jun 11 21:32:19 <ds2> Russ: think a bone can be pressed into service for that?
Jun 11 21:32:19 <Russ> mru, don't forget the crisco
Jun 11 21:32:36 <Russ> ds2, I thought about that, but they analog levels are sorta limited
Jun 11 21:33:01 <ds2> prehaps coupled with a few of those SOT-23 diff to single ended converter chips from TI (INAsomething parts)
Jun 11 21:33:22 <Russ> I know, I need a solution that's easily sharable though
Jun 11 21:33:40 <ds2> with general folks or EEs?
Jun 11 21:33:48 <Russ> test folks
Jun 11 21:33:53 <mru> trolls
Jun 11 21:33:54 <ds2> SW test?
Jun 11 21:34:23 <Russ> yes
Jun 11 21:34:28 <ds2> oh
Jun 11 21:34:30 <Kristina> What do you call a serial port reader?
Jun 11 21:34:33 <Kristina> modem?
Jun 11 21:34:42 <ds2> prehaps a softer desk to bang head against might be better
Jun 11 21:35:37 <Kristina> in my head I call it a "serial port thing" but I don't actually know what they're called
Jun 11 21:35:53 <ds2> a terminal?
Jun 11 21:35:57 <ds2> vt100?
Jun 11 21:36:00 <Kristina> no no
Jun 11 21:36:15 <Russ> a uart?
Jun 11 21:36:16 <Kristina> that thing that acts as a serial port adapter
Jun 11 21:36:26 <Russ> usb to serial adapter?
Jun 11 21:36:41 <Kristina> Russ: well, yes a UART, but I'm looking for a more general name.
Jun 11 21:36:55 <ds2> SCC?
Jun 11 21:37:03 <Kristina> usb to serial adapter will do.
Jun 11 21:37:12 <Russ> that's more specific than uart...
Jun 11 21:37:24 <Kristina> Oh, ok.
Jun 11 21:37:39 <Kristina> So they're just called "USB to serial adapters"?
Jun 11 21:37:42 <Kristina> Not modems?
Jun 11 21:37:59 <Russ> a modem is a modulator/demodulator
Jun 11 21:38:26 <Russ> converts a serialized digital signal into an analog one
Jun 11 21:38:38 <ssi> just call it an ftdi
Jun 11 21:38:43 <ssi> since they're pretty much the only game ;)
Jun 11 21:38:55 <ds2> lots of folks will disagree
Jun 11 21:39:01 <ssi> let them disagree!
Jun 11 21:39:04 * Russ wonders if Kristina was around for the 90's
Jun 11 21:39:12 <mru> pl2303 disagrees
Jun 11 21:39:13 <legov_> without changning the configuration, how can i compile a specific module from the source tree?
Jun 11 21:39:14 * ssi wipes his eyes with a kleenex before making a xerox
Jun 11 21:39:23 <Kristina> Russ: alive but not very old.
Jun 11 21:39:48 <Kristina> definitely not old enough to care abort uarts
Jun 11 21:39:53 <legov_> omap3isp specifically
Jun 11 21:40:16 <Kristina> or use a computer
Jun 11 21:40:44 <ssi> how old do you have to be to use a computer?!
Jun 11 21:41:06 <ds2> 21
Jun 11 21:41:11 <mru> with any sense of purpose, 5 or 6 I'd say
Jun 11 21:41:11 <ssi> oh...
Jun 11 21:41:11 <Russ> ah, then no fond memory of modem screeching noises
Jun 11 21:41:15 <mastiff_> OMG, using a computer without a license?
Jun 11 21:41:24 <Russ> mastiff_, worse
Jun 11 21:41:30 <Kristina> Russ: oh, I remember those!
Jun 11 21:41:34 <Russ> using a computer without alcohol
Jun 11 21:41:36 <ds2> an embedded system, 0.
Jun 11 21:41:39 <mru> computing under the influence
Jun 11 21:41:59 <Kristina> I'm not very old now. But it's all relative.
Jun 11 21:42:07 <mastiff_> is it ok if I use a computer without alcohol one day if I drank extra the day before?
Jun 11 21:42:17 * Kristina wonders if being in your 20s is old
Jun 11 21:42:26 <ssi> depends which end of your 2,0s
Jun 11 21:42:36 <Kristina> the early end
Jun 11 21:42:53 <mru> either end is a whippersnapper
Jun 11 21:43:21 <ssi> I suppose
Jun 11 21:46:11 <mastiff_> FPGA working yet?
Jun 11 21:47:42 <shabaz> hi droogie
Jun 11 21:47:56 <shabaz> did u enable the PRU in the device tree fragment file?
Jun 11 21:53:41 <shabaz> Hello, I have a question, basically I was trying to boot via TFTP, should I be able to do that if I copy across the /boot/uImage-3.8.13 file from the BBB across to my server /tftpboot folder? I tried that, and it does seem to detect that it is a Angstrom/3.8.13/beaglebone image, but I get an error "Error: unrecognized/unsupported machine ID (r1 = 0x00000e05)". Google seems to imply my U-Boot
Jun 11 21:53:41 <shabaz> may be old, but if I type 'version' it says U-Boot 2013.04-dirty (May 20 2013 - 14:30:06).  Any idea why the boot fails via TFTP? Apologies if this is a basic question..
Jun 11 21:59:45 <_av500_> enough with the saw
Jun 11 22:00:11 <_av500_> hmm, beer or sleep
Jun 11 22:01:12 <_av500_> hmm, one day after the nsa leak, somebody release scummvm for the browser
Jun 11 22:01:18 <_av500_> this is not a coincidence
Jun 11 22:01:38 <m_billybob> mhmmm
Jun 11 22:14:07 <mru> _av500_: beer and saw
Jun 11 22:40:00 <mastiff_> Trying to change usb0 IP in debian so two BBBs on the same computer don't collide.  Changed the IP in /etc/network/interfaces and rebooted.  IP address didn't change according to ifconfig, but the change is present in the interfaces file.
Jun 11 22:41:38 <diffuser> mastiff_ you are sure it is set to static and not dhcp
Jun 11 22:42:14 <mastiff_> was just trying to determine that
Jun 11 22:42:29 <diffuser> pastebin your interfaces file
Jun 11 22:45:46 <mastiff_> pastebin.com/wYZBuyQ1
Jun 11 22:48:11 <thurgood> add: auto usb0
Jun 11 22:48:41 <thurgood> otherwise you'll have to manually use: ifup usb0
Jun 11 22:49:10 <mastiff_> ifconfig still shows that usb0 is 192.168.7.2
Jun 11 22:50:04 <thurgood> do you have it configured outside of interfaces? ie in a gui tool?
Jun 11 22:50:55 <mastiff_> I don't think so, Working on setting up the latest debian flasher image.
Jun 11 22:51:07 <mastiff_> conman isn't installed
Jun 11 22:51:31 <mastiff_> It seems like somthing is overriding the interfaces file though right?
Jun 11 22:51:55 <thurgood> does appear that way
Jun 11 22:52:56 <thurgood> what does ifdown usb0; ifup usb0 give you?
Jun 11 22:57:46 <ds2> the evil that cpuidle does
Jun 11 23:01:46 <mastiff_> back in awhile, family just brought home chinese food......
Jun 11 23:02:51 <tdio> Anyone here using ArchLinuxArm on their BBB?
Jun 11 23:14:32 <shabaz> Hello, anyone got a working command to be able to do an NFS mount to a server with the BBB? I'm trying "busybox mount -t nfs xx.xx.xx.xx:/volume1/public /mnt/mymountpoint" but I get a connection refused. From any of my Linux PCs running red hat, it works fine to the server using "mount -t nfs xx.xx.xx.xx:/volume1/public /mnt/mymountpoint".
Jun 11 23:22:24 <shabaz> sorry - after trying so long and posting the nfs question when I had almost given up, turns out I can get it working now, with some extra option
Jun 11 23:23:12 <shabaz> for anone interested, it is needed to have -o port=2049,nolock,proto=tcp on the command line too
Jun 11 23:23:29 <shabaz> I'll stick it on elinux if it is not already there
Jun 12 00:01:12 <Tenkawa> anyone running a 3.9 kernel on the bone-black yet?
Jun 12 00:04:34 <Kristina> I made a blog post about beagleboard!
Jun 12 00:04:35 <Kristina> http://crna.cc/b/4
Jun 12 00:08:59 <mranostay> emeb_mac: mr F. PGA
Jun 12 00:10:27 <maxinux> Kripton:  you are a nerd
Jun 12 00:10:29 <maxinux> Tenkawa:  yes
Jun 12 00:10:45 <maxinux> Tenkawa:  i have booted 3.9.3 without most of the patches
Jun 12 00:10:47 <maxinux> it works
Jun 12 00:11:12 <maxinux> err Kristina rather.. nerd :)
Jun 12 00:11:41 <mru> better that than a troll
Jun 12 00:11:48 <mranostay> really?
Jun 12 00:12:08 <mru> and those are the only options in here
Jun 12 00:12:15 <maxinux> hah fair mru, fair
Jun 12 00:12:26 <_troll_> mranostay: no
Jun 12 00:13:04 <mranostay> maxinux: venn graph time
Jun 12 00:14:16 <Paulo> Hello!
Jun 12 00:14:17 <_troll_> mranostay: draw two circles, each a strict subset of the other
Jun 12 00:14:40 <mranostay> completely overlaid rather
Jun 12 00:14:53 <_troll_> that's too easy
Jun 12 00:18:33 <Paulo> I want do a web service with beaglebone,someone has already done?
Jun 12 00:19:05 <_troll_> web 1.0 or 2.0?
Jun 12 00:19:51 <Paulo> is a web service using REST!
Jun 12 00:20:26 <Paulo> ROA concept
Jun 12 00:20:28 <_troll_> ah, web 3.11
Jun 12 00:20:44 <mranostay> for workstations?
Jun 12 00:20:57 <mru> workgroups
Jun 12 00:21:10 <mru> were you even around back then?
Jun 12 00:21:18 <mranostay> yes i was alive
Jun 12 00:21:37 <Paulo> é para meu trabalho de conclusão de curso
Jun 12 00:21:46 <Paulo> my work is for completion of course
Jun 12 00:22:41 <_troll_> http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/43
Jun 12 00:22:56 <Paulo> I'm not sure whether I do with java.
Jun 12 00:23:24 <mranostay> scary "Windows 3.1 found a niche market as an embedded operating system after becoming obsolete in the PC world. As of November 2008, both Virgin Atlantic and Qantas employed it for some of the onboard entertainment systems on long-distance jets"
Jun 12 00:24:18 <mru> I've seen linux booting on a virgin plane
Jun 12 00:24:40 <Paulo> cool
Jun 12 00:25:22 <mru> horrible entertainment system
Jun 12 00:25:36 <mru> on one flight the titles were all mixed up
Jun 12 00:25:42 <mru> complete lottery what you got
Jun 12 00:26:18 <mru> BA's new system is reasonable actually
Jun 12 00:27:08 <mastiff_> Anyone succeeded in changing usb0 IP address?  Just changing it in etc/network/interfaces doesn't work even after reboot or restarting the network.
Jun 12 00:27:46 <mru> host or gadget side?
Jun 12 00:27:51 <mastiff_> BBB
Jun 12 00:28:14 <mastiff_> trying to have two BBBs on same host computer using eth over usb without colliding
Jun 12 00:29:37 <mastiff_> using 5-29 debian flasher image, so conman isn't involved, but something else might be overriding interfaces file??
Jun 12 00:33:13 <mastiff_> interfaces file  pastebin.com/wYZBuyQ1
Jun 12 00:34:14 <Paulo> someone already do a web service with beaglebone using jre?
Jun 12 00:36:13 <ds2> bone tea...none of that coffee stuff
Jun 12 00:37:46 <mranostay> boo
Jun 12 00:38:17 <ds2> true that bone tea won't be piping hot like fish tea
Jun 12 00:40:10 <mru> t-bone?
Jun 12 00:54:20 <ka6sox> -ETOOMANYTHINGTODO
Jun 12 00:55:59 <ds2> master.reset = 1;
Jun 12 01:02:51 <ds2> mru: still here?
Jun 12 01:07:04 <ds2> n/m
Jun 12 01:15:30 <emeb_mac> mranostay: how did I know you'd say that.
Jun 12 01:25:44 <mru> ds2: yes?
Jun 12 01:32:09 <ds2> mru: any chance you know if the intc on the a9/a15/etc can rate limit?
Jun 12 01:33:23 <ds2> GIC
Jun 12 01:34:54 <mru> I don't recall anything like that
Jun 12 01:35:05 <ds2> 'k thanks.
Jun 12 01:35:14 <mru> but check the trm to be sure
Jun 12 01:45:30 <ds2> that's on the reading list
Jun 12 01:45:50 <ds2> trying to figure out why interrupts seems to be limited to about 1KHz
Jun 12 01:45:55 <ds2> very odd
Jun 12 02:02:14 <m_billybob> yo mastiff_
Jun 12 02:16:46 <mranostay> beer !!!
Jun 12 02:18:22 <mastiff_> m_billybob: yo
Jun 12 02:20:06 <mastiff_> quiet around here tonight
Jun 12 02:27:30 <m_billybob> mastiff_ -> http://forum.beaglefu.com/index.php?/topic/92-msp430-launchpad-v15-serial-debug/?p=275
Jun 12 02:35:33 <mastiff_> Write up looks good.  I'll try it later tonight or tomorrow.  Flashed debian on one of my BBBs and setting that up.
Jun 12 02:36:12 <mastiff_> You were right about debian solving the usb bluetooth problems.  Works with debian.
Jun 12 02:38:40 <allpoints> mastiff, what bluetooth radio are you using?  I am just getting started here, noticed BONE-WIFI-03 is listed as not supporting latest os.  I'm looking to create a bluetooth beacon for prototyping with a mobile app.
Jun 12 02:40:15 <m_billybob> mastiff_, depending on what you *need* debian solves quite a bit of problems.
Jun 12 02:41:01 <m_billybob> mastiff_, if you like it make sure to let RCN know what a good job he's done ;)
Jun 12 02:42:15 <mastiff_> I'll tell him he's done a great job after he tells me how to change the damned usb0 ip address.  Changing it in /etc/network/interfaces doesn't work even after reboot.  Still uses default 192.168.7.2.
Jun 12 02:42:31 <mastiff_> But I guess I have to actually ask him first hehe
Jun 12 02:43:20 <mastiff_> He did a great job though of stripping out all the junk I didn't want though!!
Jun 12 02:45:04 <mastiff_> Lot's more room on the emmc with his debian image compared to the official angstrom.  Very helpful.
Jun 12 02:47:16 <m_billybob> look on the comments page it might be covered already
Jun 12 02:47:25 <mastiff_> allpoints: I'm using a $3 usb bluetooth dongle direct from China.  Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth Dongle (HCI mode)
Jun 12 02:48:02 <m_billybob> Im using the same chipset, and mine cost $1.71 i bet the yuse the sme MAC address too ;)
Jun 12 02:49:42 <allpoints> ah thanks, I'll give that a try.
Jun 12 02:52:44 <mastiff_> If you aren't spoofing your MAC than I'm betting it's 00:1F:81:00:08:30
Jun 12 02:53:04 <mastiff_> They all are from what I hear.
Jun 12 02:53:38 <mastiff_> A nuisance if you want to use two in the same vicinity.
Jun 12 02:56:46 <m_billybob> spoofing is difficult from what ive come to udnerstand
Jun 12 02:56:52 <m_billybob> understand
Jun 12 02:57:11 <m_billybob> i did a good bit of searching with only one possibility that seems shaky at best
Jun 12 02:57:54 <Kristina> After I handle my first IRQ from the timer, it seems to not disable that IRQ.
Jun 12 02:57:59 <Kristina> And I get stuck in a loop.
Jun 12 02:58:50 <Kristina> I do this: http://crna.cc/jKXlZ22pcQahfA9
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