**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jun 17 02:59:58 2013 Jun 17 03:19:00 hello Jun 17 03:21:55 Hello Jun 17 03:22:28 Does anyone know how to recreate the USB Image on the BBB? Jun 17 03:26:25 hello Jun 17 03:49:08 hello Jun 17 03:53:01 I really screwed up by my bbb Jun 17 04:02:52 Steven_ you need to restore via the sd card Jun 17 04:04:02 for angstrom you can use this : http://downloads.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beaglebone/ Jun 17 04:04:27 quad0 by following these instructions? http://beagleboard.org/Getting%20Started#update Jun 17 04:06:21 which OS do you use ? Jun 17 04:06:33 on your desktop machine ? Jun 17 04:07:48 I have windows and mac, currently in mac Jun 17 04:08:03 and I am using Angrstrum for the BBB Jun 17 04:08:03 ok Jun 17 04:08:12 so it's pretty easy Jun 17 04:08:34 get the latest angstrom image at the top of this page Jun 17 04:08:36 http://downloads.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beaglebone/ Jun 17 04:08:46 that is Angstrom-Cloud9-IDE-GNOME-eglibc-ipk-v2012.12-beaglebone-2013.06.06.img.xz Jun 17 04:09:09 of Jun 17 04:09:10 or Jun 17 04:09:12 even better Jun 17 04:09:17 BBB-eMMC-flasher-2013.06.06.img.xz Jun 17 04:09:43 this one wil automatically wipe the BBB Jun 17 04:10:05 so you just have to unpack the BBB-eMMC-flasher-2013.06.06.img.xz Jun 17 04:10:07 I tried the eMMC flasher, but it didnt seem to work Jun 17 04:10:16 you have to wait 30 minutes or so Jun 17 04:10:20 it's pretty slow Jun 17 04:10:40 I waited 45mins, then tried again, went to bed, and in the morning all 4 lights where on Jun 17 04:11:02 then you removed the SD, booted and no luck ? Jun 17 04:11:21 yup Jun 17 04:11:43 I am going to try the SD steps u sent me, and see if that works Jun 17 04:12:28 on mac you can run "diskutil" Jun 17 04:12:38 to check you SD disknumber Jun 17 04:13:06 and then run "xz -dc BBB-eMMC-flasher-2013.06.06.img.xz | sudo dd of=/dev/DISKNUMBER bs=1m" Jun 17 04:13:16 (replace DISKNUMBER...) Jun 17 04:13:20 ok Jun 17 04:14:18 if it's still not working, then try the Angstrom-Cloud9-IDE-GNOME-eglibc-ipk-v2012.12-beaglebone-2013.06.06.img.xz Jun 17 04:14:25 and see if it boots Jun 17 04:15:09 iI believe it's pretty impossible to screw up your BBB unless there is a hardware defect Jun 17 04:15:27 maybe your SD card is "so and so" Jun 17 04:17:13 maybe, I just noticed that the emmc flasher file I had tried was prefixed with "demo", so maybe that was part of the issue Jun 17 05:43:26 Anybody got dtc and pinmux settings to work with BBB? Jun 17 06:03:58 Apteryx, yes, plenty Jun 17 06:40:33 <_Sy_> morning Jun 17 06:40:49 mornin`! Jun 17 06:42:00 <_Sy_> start of another grey week in the UK :( Jun 17 07:13:42 gm Jun 17 08:19:20 good (ugt) morning Jun 17 08:20:03 gm Jun 17 09:04:25 Hi guys, anybody here? I am looking for manual: how beagleboard-xM loading Jun 17 09:05:27 With fdisk, i am maked ext2 and ext4 partitions. And install kernel on first. Maked grub-install. And after that my bbxm show nothing except blackscreen Jun 17 09:05:53 It even dont read from SD (no flashing lights) Jun 17 09:06:20 I don't know about the grub part what guide did you follow? Jun 17 09:09:11 grub? Jun 17 09:13:12 yeah, ther is a grub version that can be loaded from u-boot Jun 17 09:13:33 dunno why anyone would add another boot loader into the chain, but.. Jun 17 09:29:36 Hello there, I am experimenting with ubuntu raring on the bbblack.. but once I'm done experimenting and reach something running off a SDcard I'd like to copy the os to the emmc.. however i suppose i cannot simply clone it with dd..? is there a preferred method? Jun 17 09:30:52 cp Jun 17 09:31:07 create a fat boot partition and a ext partition on the emmc Jun 17 09:31:10 then copy your stuff Jun 17 09:31:22 look into the emmc.sh script of the angstrom flasher Jun 17 09:31:40 av500, thank you, I will search that Jun 17 09:31:43 if your SD card is 2GB, dd is also an option Jun 17 09:33:28 oh, that could actually be better then.. i resize partitions to be under the 2gb mark, then create an img of the sdcard, copy it to the sdcard itself as a file and then dd it to the emmc Jun 17 09:34:02 i'll try this way, seems faster (?) Jun 17 09:36:15 Whoa, guys. Just founded manual. You using u-boot? Well, my fault Jun 17 09:39:52 Could i just write stage3 to ext4 partition, and get gentoo on board? Jun 17 09:54:22 Ugh pruss Jun 17 10:12:18 urgh, so; not beagle releated but I hope I might get some direction; I have just installed a new motherboard; the (UEFI) bios states 4G ram; Linux boots, but sees only ~1.5G ram, where do I start debugging this? dmesg doesn't really spout anything useful Jun 17 10:12:38 64bit kernel? Jun 17 10:12:41 yup Jun 17 10:12:59 ACPI/UEFI parsing problems? Jun 17 10:13:29 the kicker is that it's a fairly new AMD FM2 chipset; so it might just not be well tested Jun 17 10:13:57 how would I go about checking if it has parsing problems? Jun 17 10:14:20 where do I get latest emmc image? Jun 17 10:15:00 @jackmitchell: As a first test, just to make sure, I would try checking the ram size on a live cd, both with on uefi and legacy mode Jun 17 10:15:19 i mean Ångström Distribution for BBB including clud9ide and so on Jun 17 10:15:22 See if the problem is specific to a certain boot mode Jun 17 10:15:45 Harpo: good idea; I haven't tried flicking the boot mode to see if there is a legacy option Jun 17 10:15:58 @bbb-user: http://beagleboard.org/latest-images Jun 17 10:19:03 Harpo: and where is described flashing procedure? Jun 17 10:19:35 bbb-user: http://beagleboard.org/Getting%20Started#update Jun 17 10:19:57 Basically, you're downloading a compressed binary -image of a micro-sd card Jun 17 10:21:18 you need to write this on a micro-sd card, and boot your bbb with it. This will write the new image in the onboard flash. Once the process is complete, you can remove the micro-sd and your internal flash will have the updated software Jun 17 10:21:56 bear in mind this will erase anything you've changed in the internal memory, and return the board to "factory defaults", so back up anything you want to keep! Jun 17 10:23:35 My turn to ask a question: I need to run purpose-specific software on a bunch of bbb boards. I want the software to run from the internal flash. Is there documentation on how I can create a micro-sd which will flash the internal eMmc with my own distribution? Jun 17 10:24:20 jackmitchell: if it's a new board, you've probably run into an acpi bug Jun 17 10:24:59 jackmitchell: i think best is if you contact the acpi guys, they know what to do in these cases Jun 17 10:25:40 KotH: ok; I'll talk to ACPI, I'm pretty clueless when it's comes to x86 :/ Jun 17 10:29:10 yeah, so what's weird is that it's picking up the 2 dimms in the bios but not in Linux Jun 17 10:29:30 then it really sounds like a bug in acpi Jun 17 10:29:46 is any part of acpi _not_ a bug? Jun 17 10:29:46 mostlikely it doesn't fill in the correct values somewhere... Jun 17 10:29:51 that should prevent windows working as well though! Jun 17 10:30:03 XorA: not necessarily... acpi is a mess of a standard Jun 17 10:30:05 since linux reports itself as windows to acpi Jun 17 10:30:15 KotH: I work on ACPI well aware of it :-D Jun 17 10:30:23 my condolences Jun 17 10:30:25 ^^' Jun 17 10:31:39 I got that sinking feeling in my stomach when I loaded it up and one of the fields was 'To Be Filled By O.E.M' Jun 17 10:31:53 I sensed a world of pain coming ;) Jun 17 10:31:57 it's the year 2013... the age of systemd and whatnot... and i still have fucking problems to print a fucking pdf! Jun 17 10:32:04 argh.. Jun 17 10:32:21 time for postcript in the kernel :-D Jun 17 10:32:24 Yay adobe Jun 17 10:32:25 jackmitchell, don't you just love it Jun 17 10:32:38 UEFI will solve all our bootloader problems Jun 17 10:32:49 if only they wouldn't have removed the print-server from Xorg! Jun 17 10:33:01 * panto shakes tiny fist Jun 17 10:34:22 * KotH shakes panto Jun 17 10:36:51 KotH: worry not, Lennart is probably working on a new replacement for CUPS Jun 17 10:42:01 yeah... by the time he turns 60, he will have touched every userspace subsystem in linux-land... and left a baren, dry and fruitless land in his wake Jun 17 10:47:09 SAKURA! Jun 17 10:48:43 av500: you should stop watching anime Jun 17 10:49:27 what does it mean? Jun 17 10:49:55 that you have watched too many animes and that it wasnt good for your mental health Jun 17 10:50:07 but dont worry! soon i will have a couch! Jun 17 10:50:48 \o/ v10 dma support; we're back on the patch train Jun 17 10:51:47 Is there a pre-built angstrom image, like the demo one, but with minimal software (no gnome, no cloud9, etc) to use as a basis for a custom distribution? Jun 17 10:53:19 Harpo: I'm not sure there is a pre-built one; but building your own isn't _too_ hard Jun 17 10:53:50 mrpackethead: do you still have those PCBs? Jun 17 10:54:01 kfoltman: yes, there are still some Jun 17 10:54:13 I wont' be able to post them out untill next week Jun 17 10:54:20 <_av500_> KotH: ah trivial Jun 17 10:54:24 Where can I get help on this? Most of the documentation on the Angstrom site refers to the old beagle, not the beaglebone black Jun 17 10:54:39 mrpackethead: as long as it's before 2039, it's fine Jun 17 10:54:44 yes, next week Jun 17 10:54:46 _av500_: trivial? Jun 17 10:54:48 I'm jsut traveling Jun 17 10:55:10 _av500_: mental problems are never trivial! they require the attention of professionals! Jun 17 10:55:30 KotH: the meaning Jun 17 10:55:37 av500: of sakura? Jun 17 10:55:39 av500: that too :) Jun 17 10:55:44 could have guessed from the cherry blossom pic on the back Jun 17 10:55:51 *g* Jun 17 10:56:30 av500: keep in mind that the sakura tree... or rather its flowers are also associated with something frail, and heavily drinking Jun 17 10:57:13 https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=PFPRARLC57NTC Jun 17 10:57:19 I can't uncompress an image .img.xz - it is fine? It should not be decompressed? Jun 17 10:57:42 opps, kfoltman that link was for you Jun 17 10:58:58 mrpackethead: would $4 suffice for posting to Ireland? Jun 17 10:59:06 kfoltman: yes, it will Jun 17 10:59:15 Harpo: beaglebone and beaglebone black use the same kernel/software Jun 17 10:59:49 mrpackethead: done Jun 17 11:00:12 kfoltman: sorry i wont' be able to post it out till next week. As i am away from home Jun 17 11:00:27 i think theres abotu 10 left Jun 17 11:00:38 we made 50 Jun 17 11:01:08 theres a few parts on there that will be challenging for a first time Jun 17 11:01:12 but it is all doable by hand Jun 17 11:01:35 i have build two, with just twezers, flux, my hakkp FX-951 and some 60/40 .7mm solder Jun 17 11:02:25 kfoltman: flux is really imporant Jun 17 11:03:23 mrpackethead: well, my iron is ... um, like, 10x cheaper Maplin "soldering station" Jun 17 11:03:55 kfoltman: soldering the TQFP by drag solder technique is the way to go Jun 17 11:04:17 mrpackethead: AFAICT you mentioned a youtube vid... or was it someone else? (corecode perhaps) Jun 17 11:04:22 yes, that was corecode Jun 17 11:04:26 I've got downloaded Angstrom Distribution. how to check mdsum of an image? Jun 17 11:05:55 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erb6-i54tbo Jun 17 11:06:41 mrpackethead: I'll check at home - the Linux install I have at work doesn't really work with youtube Jun 17 11:06:45 ah no wait Jun 17 11:07:06 mrpackethead: use youtoube-dl and the power of the french software! Jun 17 11:07:28 KotH: ta Jun 17 11:07:32 KotH: french software = mplayer? Jun 17 11:07:40 ffmpeg Jun 17 11:07:47 kfoltman: nah.. vlc Jun 17 11:07:59 mplayer is hungaro-austrian-german Jun 17 11:08:05 ffmpeg is evil Jun 17 11:08:27 mrpackethead: oh.. er... dont mind my chat skills ^^' Jun 17 11:08:39 KotH: well, Polish occupation by germans and hungaro-austrians ended like 100 years ago! :P Jun 17 11:08:59 kfoltman: they formed a new axis of evil! Jun 17 11:09:12 old "bonds" never die Jun 17 11:09:12 well, there was another one by Germans, too, and the Austrian guy was involved ;) Jun 17 11:09:27 xine? that's long dead Jun 17 11:09:36 ;) Jun 17 11:09:37 xine? *spits* Jun 17 11:10:11 mrpackethead: it looks so easy on the video - what about preparation? (is that with solder paste applied beforehand or...?) Jun 17 11:10:22 no paste Jun 17 11:11:18 mrpackethead: so, it's, just, put the solder on the pins you're starting with and drag it along the edge? Jun 17 11:11:22 (no audio here) Jun 17 11:11:29 yes. Jun 17 11:11:31 pretty much Jun 17 11:11:38 how do I apply flux? Jun 17 11:11:53 hmm... Jun 17 11:11:54 mine comes in a syringe Jun 17 11:12:14 * KotH never got that "use big soldering iron and just go over the pins" technique Jun 17 11:12:29 soldering each pin individually was always easier for me Jun 17 11:12:59 KotH: probably you were using the wrong iron Jun 17 11:13:00 KotH: you probably don't have uncontrollable shaky hands, though :P Jun 17 11:13:27 using the right tip is critical Jun 17 11:13:33 you need a so called "hoof" tip Jun 17 11:13:40 mrpackethead: the flux is applied to pads only, right? or just poured liberally? Jun 17 11:13:41 its got a concave "well" Jun 17 11:13:46 just slosh it on Jun 17 11:13:52 you can't use too much Jun 17 11:13:59 you'll want some IPA to clean up Jun 17 11:14:04 kfoltman: yeah.. i am not 60, never drunk much, never smoked, never did drugs... had a terribly boring life for the sake of a steady hand so i can solder the finest pitch ICs :) Jun 17 11:14:13 mrpackethead: india pale ale? Jun 17 11:14:24 some people use a liquid flux Jun 17 11:14:28 KotH: well, you're describing me, it's just bad genetics in my case Jun 17 11:14:29 mrpackethead: i tried many tips... Jun 17 11:14:30 the stuff i use is more a gel Jun 17 11:14:43 KotH: I think the one i use is called a BC/M Jun 17 11:14:45 from hakko Jun 17 11:14:54 technique is part of it Jun 17 11:15:02 but the right tip, makes a massive differnce Jun 17 11:15:24 kfoltman: you can train part of the shaking away... but it takes a long time, and only works if you aren't too old Jun 17 11:15:47 mrpackethead: do you somehow glue the chip to the board, or, how do you ensure it's not being carried along with the iron tip? Jun 17 11:16:08 i 'tack' down two pins diganoally Jun 17 11:16:18 if its a TQFP or similar Jun 17 11:16:25 get it as close as you can Jun 17 11:16:30 tack one corner pin down Jun 17 11:16:44 then hopfully its not too far out Jun 17 11:16:47 mrpackethead: oh.. and that technique probably doesn't work with lead free solder anymore :-/ Jun 17 11:16:55 KotH: it does in fact work Jun 17 11:17:01 just dont' mix your tips Jun 17 11:17:13 mrpackethead: hmm? tips have nothing to do with that Jun 17 11:17:19 mrpackethead: does the solder flow enough? Jun 17 11:17:31 no, but i have a set of PbF tips Jun 17 11:17:39 so i dont' cross contaiminate Jun 17 11:17:43 everyone does :) Jun 17 11:18:18 it seems to work PbF Jun 17 11:18:31 we manufacture in pbf Jun 17 11:18:50 but i prototype in lead based Jun 17 11:18:53 its so much easier Jun 17 11:19:10 i dont' think anything i do would really matter than much Jun 17 11:19:19 if it was lead or lead free Jun 17 11:19:31 just some peskey customers dont' liek lead Jun 17 11:20:31 mrpackethead: in europe, shipping non-RoHS stuff is mostly illegal :) Jun 17 11:21:17 mrpackethead: so, everything we do has to be leadfree unless its for internal use only, industrial or medical Jun 17 11:22:19 I only want lead in my internals Jun 17 11:22:45 but how will I block prism's x-rays? Jun 17 11:22:51 mrpackethead: what's the difference between those TLV and ZLDO voltage regulators, apart from output voltage? Jun 17 11:22:55 my pc motherboard had a label "warning" of lead content Jun 17 11:22:55 av500: next time you are in .ch i can bring you to one of our shooting ranges :) Jun 17 11:23:02 panto: a layer of tiropita Jun 17 11:23:11 KotH: we get away with it, becuas eof "industrial" rules Jun 17 11:23:16 mru: dont chew on it Jun 17 11:23:24 nothing we build is domestic Jun 17 11:23:26 I wasn't planning to Jun 17 11:23:36 mru: you couldhave tripped Jun 17 11:23:44 mrpackethead: same here... Jun 17 11:24:00 but i note that its pretty hard to go down to the local maplin store in the UK, and buy some Pb based solder Jun 17 11:24:05 mrpackethead: though, i dont think we will be able to solder with lead for much longer Jun 17 11:24:06 they dont' sell it! Jun 17 11:24:34 very annoying Jun 17 11:24:34 mrpackethead: maplin is ... well... nothing for professionals ;) Jun 17 11:24:44 maplin is useful Jun 17 11:24:58 i've got making kapton based stenicls on the laser cutter pretty muched nailed Jun 17 11:25:01 juup it is Jun 17 11:25:12 well, folks, that was my boarding call Jun 17 11:25:18 good night dude Jun 17 11:25:20 sleep well Jun 17 11:25:31 sleep on a plane.. Jun 17 11:25:32 no way Jun 17 11:25:36 hmm, I can order Pb solder easily here Jun 17 11:25:39 with enough valium? Jun 17 11:25:43 what the hell else would you do on a plane? Jun 17 11:25:44 Sn60 Pb40 Jun 17 11:26:12 mru: read a good book? :) Jun 17 11:26:21 KotH: for 12 hours? Jun 17 11:26:29 a trilogy Jun 17 11:26:31 mru: i've done that :) Jun 17 11:26:37 soldering on board a plane Jun 17 11:26:40 theres an idea Jun 17 11:26:43 lol Jun 17 11:26:44 right Jun 17 11:26:53 mrpackethead: you need 3 beers for that! Jun 17 11:26:59 ok, but Jun 17 11:27:04 I once unpacked a beagleboard and wired it up to the laptop on a plane Jun 17 11:27:07 nobody said anything Jun 17 11:27:15 they were too scared Jun 17 11:27:26 or there weren't enough loose wires Jun 17 11:27:40 beagles on a plane! Jun 17 11:28:12 Question: is the LCD4 Cape designed for the BB also compatible with the BBB ? Jun 17 11:28:36 a bit Jun 17 11:28:40 hi kos_tom Jun 17 11:28:52 kos_tom: the LCD power pin collides with emmc Jun 17 11:29:02 if you wire it to always on, it works Jun 17 11:29:07 or to another free GPIO Jun 17 11:29:20 I think they are changing it for future versions Jun 17 11:29:26 hum practically with the headers how can this work? Jun 17 11:29:35 you need to cut the line Jun 17 11:29:38 on the LCD4 Jun 17 11:29:44 and hardwire it to VCC Jun 17 11:29:59 there was a guy here that did that Jun 17 11:30:03 forgot the nick Jun 17 11:30:36 av500, it was philenotfound Jun 17 11:31:52 hi, trying to lo into http://beagleboard.org/project with MyOpenID, get "page does not exist" Jun 17 11:33:10 av500: that was on a lcd7 Jun 17 11:35:01 lcd4 looks fine according to the schematics Jun 17 11:35:13 kos_tom: have you tried it already? Jun 17 11:35:56 philenotfound: no, I was thinking about this before ordering the hw. Jun 17 11:39:32 kos_tom: i took only a quick look, it should work Jun 17 11:41:05 philenotfound: ok, thanks Jun 17 12:26:07 panto: how's is going with your capemgr? do you expect to have the recent improvements included in /latest-images anytime soon? Jun 17 12:26:22 dwery, yes Jun 17 12:26:38 great news, ty Jun 17 12:26:39 if all goes well image will go out this week Jun 17 12:27:29 them we'd just need a non-flasher version and a working opkg upgrade to greatly reduce complaints :D Jun 17 12:51:11 and one more part of the world reluctantly agrees that it has become morning... Jun 17 12:51:29 moaning martinm Jun 17 12:51:30 mourning has broken........*sing* Jun 17 12:52:12 "you can hang a newborn on a clothes line without problems" Jun 17 12:52:31 wtf Jun 17 12:52:59 development psych professor, when talking about the grasping reflex of newborns Jun 17 12:53:36 they do have a tendency to latch onto thing Jun 17 12:53:47 s Jun 17 12:58:17 does that that kind of indicates the doctors dry their laundry in the delivery room ? Jun 17 12:58:24 -s Jun 17 12:59:38 maybe OT but... where did xorg.conf go in ubuntu raring? vnc at 1080 is kind of impractical (bbb) Jun 17 12:59:53 c10ud: it went the way of the dodo Jun 17 13:00:14 in ubuntu hardy iirc Jun 17 13:00:33 what happens if you add one manually? Jun 17 13:00:42 or at least some time in 2008 Jun 17 13:00:50 it gets used indeed Jun 17 13:01:04 i tried searching for a man but no luck, not really sure on how to write for the bbb Jun 17 13:01:12 btw, it's still here in Precise (12.04) Jun 17 13:01:12 mru: it gets read as usual :) Jun 17 13:01:48 c10ud: just create files with the sections you need in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ Jun 17 13:02:21 c10ud: manpage should be still xorg.conf(5) Jun 17 13:02:21 KotH, I'll try that, thanks Jun 17 13:02:49 does't xorg now use conf.d fragments Jun 17 13:03:01 ah, KotH; you beat me to it ;) Jun 17 13:03:20 that too, but if you create a normal xorg.conf it overrides Jun 17 13:15:37 Good morning...Someone could help me? I need to generate 24MHz and get it in the header of BeagleBone. How can I do that? Jun 17 13:16:29 Algum brasileiro na área? Jun 17 13:17:18 Iniciante: http://ch.mouser.com/ProductDetail/ABRACON/ASE-24000MHz-ET/?qs=%2fha2pyFadujcwwhSEOeHTiYCxADdIVeMF5IkNWQL8qqht8kQFyQKLQ%3d%3d Jun 17 13:18:05 Iniciante: there is a brasilian in the apratment down the road Jun 17 13:18:53 ahahhaha Jun 17 13:25:38 How can I modify SW on beaglebone to clock output 24MHz, on P9 pin 41? Is that possible? Jun 17 13:25:51 read the TRM Jun 17 13:29:14 good grief, that guy on the mailing list is embarrasing Jun 17 13:29:33 which one of them all? Jun 17 13:29:36 which ? Jun 17 13:29:41 what panto said Jun 17 13:29:53 "Valerian", he's a step above the rest though Jun 17 13:30:39 btw, just pushed elf PRU rproc support Jun 17 13:31:09 "my deadline is tomorrow and i don't have enough time" Jun 17 13:31:11 says it all Jun 17 13:31:12 looks like I'll get something going which will be much more easier than what we use now Jun 17 13:31:22 jackmitchell: whcih ml` Jun 17 13:31:23 ? Jun 17 13:31:26 beagle Jun 17 13:31:40 ah.. Jun 17 13:32:19 if you look further up, he appears again; asking Gerald for #exactsteps Jun 17 13:37:11 * KotH lols at http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=302qsy8&s=5 Jun 17 13:37:37 seems legit Jun 17 13:37:44 totally Jun 17 13:37:56 what is it Jun 17 13:38:08 a signal reflection unit Jun 17 13:38:33 well.. if you change the beagle clock down to somethin like 10MHz... it might work Jun 17 13:38:36 maybe Jun 17 13:39:06 that's good enough, ship it Jun 17 13:39:22 ssi: that's supposed to be an sdcard and nand flash expansion to the bbb Jun 17 13:39:26 er.. bbw Jun 17 13:39:30 on the GPMC? Jun 17 13:39:34 juup Jun 17 13:48:51 * mranostay enters in with free chocolate Jun 17 13:49:20 * KotH will not be fooled by mranostay's cheap usian chocolate surrogate Jun 17 13:49:35 it's beyond that Jun 17 13:49:41 it's surrogate substitute Jun 17 13:49:46 i wanted to be polite Jun 17 13:50:15 fine more for me and panto Jun 17 13:51:14 mranostay, what are you doing up? Jun 17 13:51:38 7am Jun 17 13:52:21 exactly Jun 17 13:52:46 panto: still up Jun 17 13:54:10 panto: trolls never sleep Jun 17 13:55:25 jkridner: is bonescript your project? Jun 17 13:55:54 Rickta59: he is the javascript master Jun 17 13:57:42 is there a roadmap for its future? Jun 17 13:59:45 * mranostay spits up orange juice Jun 17 14:00:07 mranostay: not everything that is of yellowish colour is beer ;) Jun 17 14:00:17 KotH: bite me :) Jun 17 14:00:32 no thanks, you are not hallal Jun 17 14:00:39 haram Jun 17 14:00:50 exactly Jun 17 14:01:10 av500: you know an awfull lot about muslings, for a serb ;) Jun 17 14:01:15 muslims* Jun 17 14:01:32 KotH: well yes Jun 17 14:01:32 .o0(how ever that typo came to be) Jun 17 14:01:35 know your enemy Jun 17 14:01:41 +1 Jun 17 14:02:14 av500, +1 :) Jun 17 14:02:19 KotH: once a Wehrbauer, always a Wehrbauer Jun 17 14:02:37 * KotH is surrounded by enemies Jun 17 14:03:00 Here, you are among trolls Jun 17 14:03:10 and infidels Jun 17 14:03:23 * martinm chuckles, since no one else is likely to recognize the allusion Jun 17 14:04:25 KotH, and it's dubious that you're a real follower since you disapprove of the sultan Jun 17 14:04:32 embrace the heathens Jun 17 14:04:41 bathe in troll juice and be free! Jun 17 14:04:45 pah! Jun 17 14:04:49 i'm a kemalist! Jun 17 14:05:09 so you're an atheist but too chicken to admit it for political reasons? Jun 17 14:05:12 I ought to have gotten two or three blacks while i was at it - I've already got two things I could us it for, and of course must keep one free for the unexpected... Jun 17 14:05:36 OMG, my whatsapp was expiring Jun 17 14:05:47 martinm: the spanish inquisition? Jun 17 14:06:04 martinm: phrasing! Jun 17 14:06:13 heh - sometimes an allusion is just a cliche ;-) Jun 17 14:06:50 fancy word day? Jun 17 14:07:08 indubitably Jun 17 14:07:18 every day, in every way, your vocabulary is growing. alternately, you're dying Jun 17 14:07:52 #meaningfulmonday Jun 17 14:08:06 panto: +1 Jun 17 14:09:08 av500: no such thing Jun 17 14:09:14 panto: reminds me of http://www.jesusandmo.net/2007/09/27/doubt/ Jun 17 14:10:10 mru, +1 Jun 17 14:11:50 mranostay: dont avert your eyes from the truth! watch and see the meaning of mondays! Jun 17 14:13:06 yeah whatever old dude Jun 17 14:16:03 pff... dont talk to me like that until you outgrow your diapers! Jun 17 14:16:26 KotH: heh i'm closer to 30 than 20 does that count? :P Jun 17 14:17:03 I have doubts Jun 17 14:17:05 blissful youth! Jun 17 14:17:49 mru: what you want to see the long form? Jun 17 14:18:11 I doubt it counts Jun 17 14:18:23 even if true Jun 17 14:18:28 heh Jun 17 14:20:03 panto: age is just a number right? :P Jun 17 14:20:53 yes, in your case a very small one Jun 17 14:25:00 alcoholic AND in diapers? Jun 17 14:25:22 even trolling has its limits Jun 17 14:29:59 only the sky^Wbridge is our limit! Jun 17 14:31:35 kfoltman: avid beer drinker thank you Jun 17 14:35:00 * mranostay heads the the intel-plex Jun 17 15:00:25 koen: is ajay still at ti? Jun 17 15:15:53 av500: no, he quit a while ago Jun 17 15:17:59 ok Jun 17 15:20:03 hello guys Jun 17 15:20:17 is their anyone here who is using I2C with BBB? Jun 17 15:20:35 nope, only spi users here Jun 17 15:20:46 I was just using my BBxM and it has stopped responding on the serial port, with only D5 and D14 lit. Any suggestions? Jun 17 15:21:36 KotH: is their a big difference between i2c and spi? Jun 17 15:21:58 Yes. Jun 17 15:22:38 Ahmed_, I was providing #exactsteps on Friday, no? What coul dhave possibly gone wrong? Jun 17 15:23:15 jackmitchell: yes you did, but i have problem with the devices i have Jun 17 15:23:29 jackmitchell: i tried alot of different device and still just get 1 address Jun 17 15:23:44 1 different address, or the same address? Jun 17 15:23:45 i cant send or get data because their is only 1 address Jun 17 15:23:58 Ahmed, what I2C port are you using? Jun 17 15:24:14 1 differenent address for each diff device Jun 17 15:24:22 like 12 for one device and 11 for the other Jun 17 15:24:35 cc_: i use I2C-SCL Jun 17 15:24:37 and SDA Jun 17 15:24:44 Ahmed_: ok, so what is the problem? that sounds like it is working Jun 17 15:25:09 yeah but it should be a list of addresses according to the datasheet Jun 17 15:26:42 Ahmed_: if only one address is showing up, then I would imagine that is all that is available; I can't see a reason why one address would show but not the others Jun 17 15:26:59 are you sure that the datasheet doesn't just list _alternate_ addresses Jun 17 15:27:20 not sure, but which device are you using? Jun 17 15:27:27 i will buy it and see what will happen Jun 17 15:27:29 I'm using custom i2c devices Jun 17 15:28:02 so, you are trying to say something which you haven't bought or own, doesn't work? Jun 17 15:28:43 yeah im sure that the addresses in the datasheet is not alternates Jun 17 15:29:14 how do you know more addresses don't show up if you don't have the chip? Jun 17 15:29:48 i have the chip but i wanted to try more different chips couz i feel Jun 17 15:29:57 the problem is with the chip it self Jun 17 15:30:02 i dont know Jun 17 15:30:30 If the chip shows one address, then that probably means it is working fine Jun 17 15:30:46 what chip is it? Jun 17 15:31:13 i'm using AT90USB 1287 Jun 17 15:31:23 and Honeywell compaus Jun 17 15:31:34 AT90USB 1287 is a microcontroller Jun 17 15:31:40 yeah Jun 17 15:31:45 not an i2c chip.... Jun 17 15:32:29 mourning Jun 17 15:32:31 Honeywell Compass, is a company, not an i2c chip... Jun 17 15:32:51 oh its HMC 6352 Jun 17 15:33:03 from honeywell and its function is a compass Jun 17 15:33:09 ok Jun 17 15:33:52 well, in the first line on the datasheet I read that it uses a layered protocol Jun 17 15:34:02 and for the 1287 thing i found GND VDD SDL SDA on it Jun 17 15:34:13 which usually means you send it a register address, then read back the value Jun 17 15:34:26 thats for the HMC right? Jun 17 15:34:30 yeah Jun 17 15:35:11 do you know ASIM? Jun 17 15:35:17 no Jun 17 15:36:34 jackmitchell: so i have one more question for you Jun 17 15:36:51 do I provide consultancy services ;) Jun 17 15:37:45 in the 1287 device it have a temprature sensor Jun 17 15:38:07 if i want to transfer the data that will come out of the sensor and transfer it using i2c Jun 17 15:38:30 can you give me a general idea how can i make that? :D :D Jun 17 15:39:03 magic Jun 17 15:39:06 ok, well read the 1287 datasheet, then write a program to read the i2c bus and print it Jun 17 15:39:21 better yet a driver Jun 17 15:39:35 baby steps :P Jun 17 15:39:37 jackmitchell: aight thats what i wanted Jun 17 15:40:18 read the datasheet, if you don't understand it, read more about the i2c protocol, then read the data sheet again; keep going until it makes sense Jun 17 15:52:37 So i want to use pruss to read and write gpio pins, allowing for the data to be used by debian, any tips/pointers in the right direction? Jun 17 15:53:36 jackmitchell: I dunno, shouldn't there be a timeout for that loop? if it still doesn't make sense after a few cycles it's probably best to look for something more tutorial, or a tutor Jun 17 15:55:35 good lord, TI accounting emails make me want to smash things Jun 17 15:55:47 do it! Jun 17 15:56:06 smashing things is always a good thing! Jun 17 15:56:10 wmat: entertain us! Jun 17 15:56:15 heh Jun 17 15:56:15 wmat, I hear ya Jun 17 15:56:32 do i t like the troll does when he catches someone trying to sneak across his bridge. Smash! Smash smash smash! Jun 17 15:57:06 martinm: yeah that's definitely a loop of diminishing returns; but i2c really isn't difficult; especially as it's already working and it's just understanding the chip protocol Jun 17 15:57:30 they want me to "re-authorize" payment of an order, yet the only link on my order page is "re-order". I want to re-order!! Jun 17 15:58:03 do or do not? Jun 17 15:58:13 oops, do not Jun 17 15:58:17 * jackmitchell is out; ciao all Jun 17 15:58:24 I already received the items Jun 17 15:58:43 * martinm tries never to underestimate the confusion a software person can generate when trying to understand hardware, or vice versa :-) Jun 17 15:58:54 martinm: not to mention accounting Jun 17 15:58:55 the accounting email text is highlighted red and in caps too Jun 17 15:59:12 wmat: are you sure it's not 419 nigerian scammers posing as TI? (-: Jun 17 15:59:20 clearly you need to use the blink tag in your reply Jun 17 15:59:36 kfoltman: heh, it very well could be Jun 17 16:00:08 but why do these Nigerians keep fedex-ing me MSP430 boards I don't remember ordering? Jun 17 16:01:33 wmat: what? cold-fedexing MSP430s? Jun 17 16:03:18 kfoltman: TI accounting is claiming I owe them money for orders I apparently placed 5 days apart (Aug 31st and Sep. 5th, 2012) for 2 EK-LM4F120XL - Stellaris® LM4F120 LaunchPad Evaluation Boards Jun 17 16:03:36 I'm fairly certain I wouldn't have duplicated an order like that Jun 17 16:03:48 nonetheless, the order is for $9.98 Jun 17 16:03:55 so I'm happy to just clear it up Jun 17 16:03:56 wmat: they sent you two boards instead of one and they want to be paid out of the blue? Jun 17 16:04:12 no, they sent me 2 boards, twice (so 4) Jun 17 16:04:19 oh Jun 17 16:04:31 wmat, FWIW....You aren't the only one this happened to... Jun 17 16:04:46 someone got a bonus for over-selling? Jun 17 16:04:50 I'm happy to pay, but their accounting email makes me angry Jun 17 16:04:51 Hi guys, I wanted to create a new page on elinux.org/BeagleBone, so that I can put a step-by-step list on how to build the kernel. But, I don't know how to add a page. I know how to edit!! Anyone know how to add a page in the wiki? Jun 17 16:04:54 ka6sox: really? Jun 17 16:05:06 ya... Jun 17 16:05:15 heard other stories of this as well. Jun 17 16:05:19 shabaz: do a search for the page name you want Jun 17 16:05:29 shabaz: the result will ask you if you want to create it Jun 17 16:05:36 ahh Jun 17 16:05:38 shabaz: click on the red link to create Jun 17 16:05:51 ka6sox: interesting Jun 17 16:06:12 very cool! Thanks wmat, I see the red thing now Jun 17 16:06:23 wmat: well, $9.98 for two Cortex M4F boards is a very good price in any case, luckily they didn't send you some $1000 board Jun 17 16:06:59 ka6sox:Hi ka6sox, vvu was very helpful,thanks!! Jun 17 16:07:43 shabaz, excellent Jun 17 16:07:54 anytime! Jun 17 16:08:07 hehe didn't realise you were online! Jun 17 16:08:12 there's a "Email us if you have any questions" link in the email which isn't a mailto: but rather a link to harte-hanks.com Jun 17 16:09:29 lol, fwiw, Newark/Element14 did something like this with my BBB order Jun 17 16:09:37 I ordered 2, they sent 4 (in 2 separate shipments) and billed me accordingly Jun 17 16:09:58 I managed to weasel $5 out of them for the extraneous shipping charge on the 2nd package since they could've combined them all in 1 box after all. Jun 17 16:09:59 koen: it seems the c_can has a few bugs... do you know if someone is working on it? Jun 17 16:10:24 Spirilis: did you opt to keep the extra 2? Jun 17 16:10:46 yep Jun 17 16:10:48 sold them to coworkers Jun 17 16:10:53 dwery: TI is not doing any work on am335x currently Jun 17 16:11:00 so I recouped the cost pretty quickly Jun 17 16:11:06 nice Jun 17 16:11:12 koen: abandoned platform? Jun 17 16:11:59 yeah, other silicon has presedence Jun 17 16:12:13 and/or TI's product managers have the attention span of a flea Jun 17 16:12:39 :( Jun 17 16:18:38 * prpplague wonders who has been providing advice on the LCD7 cape Jun 17 16:23:12 * ka6sox wonders why prpplague is wondering... Jun 17 16:23:35 ka6sox: seems there is some misinformation going on Jun 17 16:23:50 prpplague: have you ever heard of the internet? Jun 17 16:23:59 mru: indeed Jun 17 16:24:05 also, 386 Jun 17 16:27:24 just fyi, for anyone commenting on the LCD3/LCD4/LCD7 capes Jun 17 16:27:46 LCD3/LCD4 are fully supported with no hardware modifications required Jun 17 16:28:02 LCD7 RevA3 is fully supported with no hardware modifications required Jun 17 16:28:25 if you want to use a LCD7 RevA2, then you would need to do some hardware mods Jun 17 16:28:32 easier to just get an A3 Jun 17 16:33:41 mdp, ping Jun 17 17:10:46 bradfa: you get your hardware? Jun 17 17:10:49 mdp: you too? Jun 17 17:11:35 jkridner, jkridner_ around? Jun 17 17:12:15 check behind the javascript Jun 17 17:12:34 * panto looks Jun 17 17:12:43 there's nothing but typeless variables Jun 17 17:30:19 mru: I never noticed before how appropriate 386 is as the permanumber for that one Jun 17 17:30:31 Step-by-step guide to building a BBB kernel is here: http://elinux.org/Building_BBB_Kernel hopefully people can update it over time with best practice. It doesn't contain any info on the NFS mounting a file system currently. Jun 17 17:31:22 prpplague, I got stellaris and bbb from Cathy Jun 17 17:31:38 also, I wasn't sure how to find the release number of builds, so that the git checkout uses the right tag. currently it uses the head of 3.8. Kinda new to git.. and kernel compiling Jun 17 17:31:45 bradfa: did you get the tracking number i sent? Jun 17 17:32:15 prpplague, yes Jun 17 17:32:23 en-route, I think Jun 17 17:32:26 ahh ok Jun 17 17:32:39 bradfa / mdp i now have a bacon cape wiki page up Jun 17 17:32:48 prpplague, saw, sounds good Jun 17 17:32:48 bradfa / mdp might spend some time reviewing Jun 17 17:32:53 I think mdp is on vacation Jun 17 17:33:05 ahh right Jun 17 17:33:07 camp Jun 17 17:34:35 month-of-matt Jun 17 17:34:38 prpplague, apparently info went to fedex on the 4th, they picked it up on the 14th, and it'll be to me by the 19th Jun 17 17:35:00 bradfa: ahh ok Jun 17 17:35:09 bradfa: we had a delay on the bacon builds Jun 17 17:35:12 https://www.fedex.com/fedextrack/?tracknumbers=693308515022567&cntry_code=us Jun 17 17:40:36 So i want to use pruss to read and write gpio pins, allowing for the data to be used by debian, any tips/pointers in the right direction? Jun 17 17:43:21 Stanto, why? all the pru pins are GPIO pins that can be read by Linux Jun 17 17:43:37 you need PRU if you're thinking of doing high speed stuff Jun 17 17:46:32 Hello all. Can anyone assist me with a BBB that refuses to boot from eMMC? Jun 17 17:47:06 I flashed it with the latest Angstrom image, and after that it will not boot Jun 17 17:47:12 All 4 LEDs are off Jun 17 17:47:31 I have a FTDI serial adapter on the serial port and all it does is print 'C' over and over Jun 17 17:53:56 rborkows, it's looking for a boot source and not finding one so falling back to serial boot Jun 17 17:54:02 your flashing must not have worked correctly Jun 17 17:54:53 Any way to interact with it via serial? point it at emmc? Jun 17 17:55:23 at this point you need a microSD card that's bootable Jun 17 17:55:49 remove power from the beaglebone and hold the S2 button while plugging it in Jun 17 17:55:54 meh.. i shouldnt hang around with medical students so much Jun 17 17:56:02 * KotH just read Siphilis Jun 17 17:56:17 heh years ago in a lan party someone kept calling me that Jun 17 17:56:27 was pretty funny "Damn you syphyllis!!!" Jun 17 17:56:32 panto, Because if you're using the pru you're not prone to linux interfering with its interrupts? Jun 17 17:56:45 Besides, how about "because I want to" ? Jun 17 17:57:00 So is the emmc recoverable, or does this mean I have to boot from sd now? Jun 17 17:57:05 Is there an 'idiots guide to the PRU' anywhere? Jun 17 17:57:11 Stanto: "because i want to" is a weaker reason than "because i can" :) Jun 17 17:57:20 rborkows: I'm doubting it is recoverable but if you boot from a uSD card image that works you might be able to read it & recover data from it Jun 17 17:57:20 I was idly wondering about a PRU engine controller Jun 17 17:57:21 hi, google "BBB PRU" - first link is good Jun 17 17:57:41 shouldn't you be able to boot of the emmc flasher disk and watch what happens over the serial? Jun 17 17:57:43 but then you should definitely run a reflashing image from the SD card Jun 17 17:57:45 well I already flashed it twice, so there's nothing to recover Jun 17 17:57:48 KotH, ok, "Because I can" ? Jun 17 17:57:58 Stanto, look, no all pins on the connectors are PRU GPI/GPO pins Jun 17 17:57:59 boof off Jun 17 17:58:00 jackmitchell: i have a problem :D i2c-0 doesnt work at all Jun 17 17:58:04 does anyone knows how to switch audio device in Ångström? I have USB analog sound card and I'd like to make it use, however as default TI controller is seleced Jun 17 17:58:05 ah k, any idea why it failed? did it complete with all 4 user LEDs on? Jun 17 17:58:08 yeah, I had serial on the second flashing. Was able to log in Jun 17 17:58:13 jackmitchell: just i2c-1 work Jun 17 17:58:25 depending on what you want to do PRU might be overkill Jun 17 17:58:29 panto, All the pins on the connectors aren't PRU GPI/GPO pins according to the tech sheet Jun 17 17:58:30 did you wait the 45 minutes for it to finish rborkows ? Jun 17 17:58:39 jackmitchell: when i do i2cdetect -l both of them are detected, but only 1 works Jun 17 17:58:43 yes, that's what I said Jun 17 17:58:49 yes, all leds were solid on, logged in via serial and there was no activity Jun 17 17:58:54 panto, oh, you missed a 't' Jun 17 17:59:00 I did a sync, shutdown -h now Jun 17 17:59:05 if you're going to use them as GPIOs you can Jun 17 17:59:11 Well yes Jun 17 17:59:12 popped out the SD, and powered back up Jun 17 17:59:34 but, it's going to be a) harder and b) your hard timing is not guaranteed Jun 17 17:59:36 weird. you fully removed power from it after popping out the SD? Jun 17 17:59:41 yep Jun 17 17:59:42 shabaz: Interesting Jun 17 17:59:46 because you have to go through arbitration to get to the GPIO blocks Jun 17 18:00:08 yeah something went wrong. powering it via the DC jack or with a USB tablet charger of some type? Jun 17 18:00:13 oh, and c) they're much much slower (IIRC max toggle rate is 25MHz or something) Jun 17 18:00:19 DC wall-wart. lots of amps Jun 17 18:00:44 k, dunno then. Maybe try the reflash 1 more time.... and if it's still not working, I suspect the eMMC could be damaged. There aren't any capes installed right? Jun 17 18:01:01 panto, PRU can go at 200mhz, you're saying that's something different ? Jun 17 18:01:05 there was a breadboard cape attached for the first flash, but nothing on the pins Jun 17 18:01:19 Stanto, PRU can go at 200Mhz, the GPIO block cannot Jun 17 18:01:24 Stanto: clock rate of 200MHz does not mean the GPIO pins can go that fast Jun 17 18:01:30 ok Jun 17 18:01:45 That's fine Jun 17 18:02:22 Just so I'm not doing something stupid... BBB-eMMC-flasher-2013.06.06.img is the correct image name, right? Jun 17 18:02:30 that will overwrite the emmc? Jun 17 18:03:05 yeah, I haven't used that one yet though Jun 17 18:03:07 just the 5/27 one Jun 17 18:03:16 btw, interesting thing just happened. I forgot to hold down S2, but it booted from SD anyway Jun 17 18:03:32 possible. it goes through a boot "order" Jun 17 18:03:33 panto, all of this justification hasn't got me anywhere closer to answering my question though ;) Jun 17 18:04:09 Stanto, as long as you're willing to write your stuff in PRU assembly, just go ahead Jun 17 18:04:17 we're trying to help you here Jun 17 18:04:25 are we? Jun 17 18:04:33 tangentially Jun 17 18:04:39 Is it possible that the flash hasn't marked the emmc as bootable or something similar? The old marking a partition as bootable for lilo Jun 17 18:04:44 flash image that is Jun 17 18:04:45 panto: then i misunderstood something Jun 17 18:05:06 rborkows: eh, I doubt it, if the flasher process finished and put all 4 user LEDs on solid it should be *done* but I am not an expert on it anyhow :) Jun 17 18:05:17 it's the teargas empathy Jun 17 18:05:28 panto, so you've asked me to justify it and you've pointed out it's harder and slow but can I be pointed in the write direction perhaps with code examples? Jun 17 18:05:34 -write +right Jun 17 18:05:40 ok, I'll unpack the flash image and see what it does at the end. see if I can verify it worked correctly Jun 17 18:05:54 Searching on google has, mixed and not very reliable results Jun 17 18:05:56 Stanto, GPIO examples for Linux abound Jun 17 18:06:22 for PRU, not so many cause it's much harder, and usually it's part of a larger project Jun 17 18:06:36 http://hipstercircuits.com/ <- tried that? Jun 17 18:06:40 Yes Jun 17 18:06:51 IIRC there's a GPIO PRU example Jun 17 18:06:58 what is wrong with it? Jun 17 18:07:12 It's mainly reading on the GPIO I was hoping for a writing one, too Jun 17 18:07:49 I wondered if there was a GPIO pin to hex mapping that's been done Jun 17 18:08:07 wait, are we talking about pinmuxing here? Jun 17 18:08:14 probably Jun 17 18:08:29 As well as working with the PRU Jun 17 18:08:51 https://docs.google.com/document/d/17P54kZkZO_-JtTjrFuVz-Cp_RMMg7GB_8W9JK9sLKfA/pub Jun 17 18:09:07 read that as a background Jun 17 18:09:17 https://github.com/bradfa/beaglebone_pinmux_tables Jun 17 18:09:28 +1 Jun 17 18:09:29 and grab of spru rev C Jun 17 18:09:37 and I'll gladly take pull requests for updates to that Jun 17 18:09:39 These look useful Jun 17 18:09:47 especially for black pin conflicts Jun 17 18:09:51 have fun Jun 17 18:09:55 and dt reg values Jun 17 18:09:59 lol thanks Jun 17 18:10:29 :) Jun 17 18:11:12 bradfa, I have to compare it against mine Jun 17 18:11:30 how's ka6sox forced child labor effort going? :) Jun 17 18:11:54 haven't heard any updates, but if the kid could pry a bbb away from ka6sox then maybe it would go faster :) Jun 17 18:14:41 maybe we should donate money to buy him his own bbb Jun 17 18:14:43 where is alsa configuration file in Ångström? Jun 17 18:16:30 he can always force him to work nights when he should be asleep Jun 17 18:59:05 FYI, the third time I flashed it, it came up on emmc. Not sure what the problem was. Jun 17 18:59:22 nice Jun 17 18:59:28 3rd time's the charm! Jun 17 18:59:31 perhaps there's luck in odd numbers Jun 17 18:59:44 it was a glitch in the matrix Jun 17 19:00:11 the perversity of the universe finally slid past that local maximum Jun 17 19:00:50 hmm, is this the normal afternoon drop-off? Jun 17 19:01:39 panto, bradfa yes, if I get a new one he intends to steal the other one... Jun 17 19:01:58 and right now he is teaching at a camp for younger kids...so maybe tonight Jun 17 19:04:10 KotH, yes, he would love that... Jun 17 19:04:31 * KotH starts a kickstarter Jun 17 19:05:01 KotH, he is working on V2 with conflict avoidance and writing the fragments for you :) Jun 17 19:05:27 ka6sox: how does that help me with my JIHAD Jun 17 19:05:52 only if you send Chocolate (his Mother would love that and let him stay up late to finish) Jun 17 19:06:39 sorry, you are out of luck there.. it's way too warm to send chocolate around Jun 17 19:06:57 bring some to ELCE and all will be forgiven. Jun 17 19:07:12 if i'm there, you'll have your chocolate Jun 17 19:07:14 (It'll be COLD in October in Scotland... Jun 17 19:07:17 ) Jun 17 19:07:27 hmmm, SFTP transfer onto the SD card seems to max out around 3.5 MB/sec. Jun 17 19:07:50 bitbake asterisk Jun 17 19:07:57 hmmm... Jun 17 19:08:00 not gonna work here Jun 17 19:09:24 * KotH puts a gaul into the oven Jun 17 19:09:56 ka6sox, you should try Ubuntu, I hear it's just like Linux! Jun 17 19:11:10 have you tried that before ka6sox ? (asterisk) Jun 17 19:16:39 Rickta59, yes, using it now Jun 17 19:16:43 but not on a BB Jun 17 19:16:52 I know people are using the xM for that Jun 17 19:17:26 bradfa, I'm not partial to Server/Desktop OS's running on Embedded things. Jun 17 19:18:11 ka6sox, that was tongue in cheek :) Jun 17 19:19:55 * wmat really hopes to get to ELCE Jun 17 19:20:05 wmat, my WIFE wants to go... Jun 17 19:20:12 yes, mine as well Jun 17 19:20:17 even if 2 days I'm @ the conference. Jun 17 19:20:27 we're both of scottish ancestry Jun 17 19:20:41 so am I (according to my mom) Jun 17 19:20:43 well, she's a 5th gen canadian, so sort of Jun 17 19:20:57 i'm a first gen canadian Jun 17 19:21:17 half of my siblings were born in scotland Jun 17 19:21:25 ah Jun 17 19:21:57 father's side is from County Clare, and mothers is from around Glasgow. Jun 17 19:22:10 .o0(damn immigrant shum) Jun 17 19:22:13 scum* Jun 17 19:22:16 to bad it's not in glasgow, as my family is all from that area Jun 17 19:22:42 mother's side is Meyers Jun 17 19:22:54 ka6sox: mine is Anderson Jun 17 19:22:59 ka6sox: meyer? Jun 17 19:23:04 Yeyer Jun 17 19:23:06 er Jun 17 19:23:07 ka6sox: from East Kilbride area Jun 17 19:23:09 Meyer Jun 17 19:23:13 wmat: its only a massive 30 miles :-D Jun 17 19:23:19 ka6sox: that sounds rather german than schotish? Jun 17 19:23:27 wmat: a hop skip and jump in US/Canandian terms Jun 17 19:23:33 XorA: really? Jun 17 19:23:35 wmat, east kilbride is same area as mother Jun 17 19:23:40 shottkyish? Jun 17 19:23:43 wmat: yeah, 60 mins by bus or train Jun 17 19:23:47 * ka6sox has been to east kilbride Jun 17 19:23:49 XorA: I've run that far before Jun 17 19:24:05 wmat: train station is 5 mins from venue Jun 17 19:24:06 ka6sox: small world Jun 17 19:24:18 wmat indeed Jun 17 19:24:45 kfoltman: "sch" is a german type reflex :) Jun 17 19:24:49 ka6sox: my dad was a Gorbels kid, but ended up in Busby/East Kilbride after/during the war Jun 17 19:24:52 wmat: Edinburgh for being the capital is a tiny little place, I think your sense of scale is off :-D Jun 17 19:25:10 wmat: I drive through busby quite often, its near my girlfriends house Jun 17 19:25:42 I've only been there once unfortunately Jun 17 19:25:49 funny thing is that I can understand Glasweegians okay..but Borders throws me... Jun 17 19:26:12 I took my mother back to visit and she was quite sad at the development Jun 17 19:27:02 if I go we will have to go to Lanarkshire to visit friends. Jun 17 19:27:12 XorA: you get a different sense of scale, when you grew up in both .ch and .tr: .ch where the whole country is just about 7mio, and .tr where more than 5 cities have more citizens than .ch Jun 17 19:28:05 * wmat is used to 8 hour drives to get places Jun 17 19:28:24 * KotH is used to walk to every place in the city Jun 17 19:28:26 ka6sox: you will need to rent a car, Lanarkshire is a pain to get to from Edin Jun 17 19:28:27 driving from London to Glasgow is a drop in the bucket Jun 17 19:28:28 an 8-hour trip had better land me in another country Jun 17 19:28:52 XorA, ya, we will have a car...whole family wants to go. Jun 17 19:29:02 mru: i don't even get out of Ontario when heading north Jun 17 19:29:06 ka6sox: the road is terrible too like :-D Jun 17 19:29:25 we go up near Lockerbie..to Law Jun 17 19:29:30 for apparently being inventers of tarmac, the Scots don't like it Jun 17 19:29:41 I discovered that... Jun 17 19:29:52 * wmat may make a week or two of it and explore Scotland a wee bit Jun 17 19:30:00 mru, I drive 8hrs just for "fun" Jun 17 19:30:13 ka6sox: 8 hours in the UK will get you very wet :-D Jun 17 19:30:25 XorA, true Jun 17 19:30:35 ka6sox: not really its longer than that north to south! Jun 17 19:30:51 8hrs and I'm still in the same *state* Jun 17 19:31:16 how cold will it be? Jun 17 19:31:30 Crofton|work: anything from 14C to -14C Jun 17 19:31:35 heh Jun 17 19:31:37 bring your cold weather clothes...and rain kit Jun 17 19:31:45 ka6sox: no wonder you usians never visit other countries much ;) Jun 17 19:31:51 horizontal rain or bright sunshine, or more likely both Jun 17 19:32:04 sounds pleasant :/ Jun 17 19:32:09 KotH, Vega$ is the closest other country.... Jun 17 19:32:17 wmat: if you dont like the weather in Scotland, wait 5 mins Jun 17 19:32:24 heh Jun 17 19:32:46 Stirling Castle went from Bright Sunshine, to horizontal rain in 30minutes. Jun 17 19:33:07 ELCE is at changeover time, October tends to be fairly dry around Edin, but November gets wet, so it really is going to depend Jun 17 19:33:40 Sun, Snow, Rain, Hail all in same hour is not unusual Jun 17 19:33:47 figures. Jun 17 19:34:01 * ka6sox wonders whether to bring his kidlet to any of ELCE... Jun 17 19:34:03 tell me again why people live there? Jun 17 19:34:06 he might like it. Jun 17 19:34:06 wmat: considering that i nearly froze to death in in august in london (me as a swiss, who is used to rain and cold weather), i would suggest to take clothes for sibirian cold, with hail and rain with you Jun 17 19:34:33 * ka6sox brings his Cabella's Snow Suit.. Jun 17 19:35:02 KotH: I hate packing heavy though Jun 17 19:36:09 dont bother with umbrellas unless you want to visit norway! Jun 17 19:36:19 ka6sox: we usually bring mru so your kidlet will have company Jun 17 19:36:26 * prpplague jokes with mru Jun 17 19:36:28 I'd like to take my wife to see Campbell Castle, as she's a Campbell Jun 17 19:36:47 wmat: get outdoor gear Jun 17 19:36:54 I have to beat up a Protestant in Glasgow in honour of my Dad :/ Jun 17 19:37:00 wmat: that stuff is light, compact and usable for all weather conditions Jun 17 19:37:18 wmat: careful with comments like that..... Jun 17 19:37:34 XorA: I jest Jun 17 19:37:49 wmat: I mean even in jest, religion is a touchy subject in Scotland Jun 17 19:37:57 XorA: my Dad actually swore off religion after the nuns beat him for being left handed Jun 17 19:38:07 XorA: and my mum is a protestant Jun 17 19:38:08 lol Jun 17 19:38:19 wmat: Rangers vs Celtic is actually a Catholic/Protestant excuse for a riot! Jun 17 19:38:22 wmat: what time are you talking about? 50s? Jun 17 19:38:27 wmat: earlier? Jun 17 19:38:28 XorA: we had Celtic and Rangers jerseys on opposite sides of the family room Jun 17 19:38:44 KotH: earlier, more like 40s Jun 17 19:39:00 XorA: no doubt Jun 17 19:39:20 somehow, i like the communist approach to religion better than the one of the "civilized" west Jun 17 19:39:39 the commies hate religion but for the wrong reason Jun 17 19:39:53 KotH: ban it? Jun 17 19:40:06 XorA: juup Jun 17 19:40:17 KotH: sounds like a good plan Jun 17 19:40:36 but they do that only because it challenges the 'dear leader' as supreme authority Jun 17 19:40:57 XorA: unfortunately, if you ban it, you have to educate people better so they behave well... Jun 17 19:41:10 XorA: which is not an easy thing to do Jun 17 19:41:26 prpplague, thanks...I was a bit worried...but if he has an equal there it would be good for him :) Jun 17 19:41:30 XorA: for some reason, the commies got that right as well. but that might have been pure luck Jun 17 19:41:32 does anyone know about using tft lcds with the beaglebone black? Jun 17 19:42:37 jimmy__: yes Jun 17 19:42:46 yes, someone does Jun 17 19:42:58 mru: :) Jun 17 19:44:02 JIHAD! Jun 17 19:44:07 i'm trying to put together my own shield with a 3.5" (non-touchscreen) lcd, and i'm wondering what extra hardware that requires Jun 17 19:44:37 jimmy__, http://www.elinux.org/BeagleBone_Black_Capes Jun 17 19:44:40 those are supported Jun 17 19:44:40 a wonderfull JIHAD to you too, mranostay :) Jun 17 19:44:47 like this display: http://www.newhavendisplay.com/nhd35320240mfatxl1-p-2886.html Jun 17 19:44:58 KotH: happy explosions for all Jun 17 19:45:03 wmat: KotH: just remember its traditional to buy the locals 10 beers :-D Jun 17 19:45:11 i saw the capes, i just don't really want a touchscreen Jun 17 19:45:13 XorA: nice try Jun 17 19:45:17 * ka6sox thinks XorA should call a cab Jun 17 19:45:31 and i'm trying to make a combined cape with some other devices Jun 17 19:45:45 XorA: i'm not into beer Jun 17 19:45:47 jimmy__, GLHF! ;) Jun 17 19:45:54 XorA: i'll bring chocolate instead Jun 17 19:46:24 KotH, Good Plan(tm) Jun 17 19:46:37 and if you value your stomach lining don't drink McEwans 80 Shillings :-D Jun 17 19:46:40 thanks... haha. i was just trying to see if you guys had any tips on somewhere to get started, because there's a lot of conflicting info out there Jun 17 19:47:02 XorA: as a practitioning jihadist, i do not drink alcohol Jun 17 19:47:02 mainly, differences between all of the different beagle devices Jun 17 19:47:45 KotH: an alien concept here :-D Jun 17 19:48:02 KotH: chocolate beer Jun 17 19:48:41 XorA: noted. Please try to keep up with the Canadians though ;) Jun 17 19:48:45 hi.. Can't mount a USB Flash Drive on BeagleBone .. its a sandisk 8GB flash drive FAT32 formatted Jun 17 19:48:48 mranostay: bite XorA Jun 17 19:48:54 i do not get messages on dmesg Jun 17 19:49:05 * ka6sox looks to see if kidlet will get his wish today....or not.... Jun 17 19:49:18 all i see is [ 6761.901784] gadget: rndis req21.00 v0000 i0000 l36 ... in dmesg Jun 17 19:49:55 wmat: my days of drinking people under the table are long gone :-( Jun 17 19:50:25 mranostay: never had a nice chocolate beer! Jun 17 19:50:54 XorA: as are mine actually ;) Jun 17 19:51:12 XorA: we'll need to keep up to prpplague Jun 17 19:52:29 wmat: hehe Jun 17 19:53:41 wmat, didn't he switch to Rum? Jun 17 19:54:36 XorA: you haven't lived a full life then Jun 17 19:55:05 mranostay: so, you define "living a full life" as being constantly drunk? Jun 17 19:55:22 sounds like mmra Jun 17 19:55:24 mranostay: Jun 17 19:56:35 * KotH takes a note to bring medical alcohol and an i.v. set Jun 17 19:56:40 getting drunk gets in the way of most of my hobbies Jun 17 19:56:41 ka6sox: I think he partakes in rum on occasion Jun 17 19:57:13 mranostay: stop teasing us old folks Jun 17 19:57:13 XorA: getting drunk _is_ mranostay's hobby Jun 17 19:58:06 wmat: if mranostay can still tease you with that kind of stuff, you are not old enough ;) Jun 17 19:59:17 KotH: you're right, I'm probably not ;). Jun 17 19:59:49 wmat: what are you? 25? Jun 17 20:00:00 KotH: btw, swedish for drunk is 'full' Jun 17 20:00:03 ok Jun 17 20:00:08 mru: same in german :) Jun 17 20:00:23 KotH: let's just say i'm closer to 50 Jun 17 20:00:38 mru: though german has many words for being drunk... and i'm hearing new ones every month or so :) Jun 17 20:00:54 KotH: I'm probably mranostay * 2 Jun 17 20:00:55 wmat: than to 0? Jun 17 20:01:14 wmat: ah.. an old fart, then ;) Jun 17 20:01:24 wmat: turn 27 this week so not quite Jun 17 20:01:25 i am currently the ultimate answer to the ultimate question Jun 17 20:01:26 g'night Jun 17 20:01:31 all trolls here? Jun 17 20:01:42 Guest58996: nope, just a big family Jun 17 20:01:58 Guest58996: and we drove out the trolls long ago Jun 17 20:02:18 Guest58996: consider this a big, multi-nationlal, multi-time zone family dinner Jun 17 20:02:18 <_troll_> oh yeah? Jun 17 20:02:26 get somewhere to discuss about drinking, whats the point hv #beagle here? Jun 17 20:02:26 damn, we forgot one! Jun 17 20:02:49 http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/146 Jun 17 20:03:27 :) Jun 17 20:03:45 being on-topic is off-topic here Jun 17 20:03:48 live to offend :) Jun 17 20:04:00 yup got it Jun 17 20:04:01 nah.. i live to JIHAD Jun 17 20:04:14 Guest58996: what was your question again? Jun 17 20:04:37 wmat: not being able to mount an usb stick, while seing only rndis messages in the kernel log Jun 17 20:04:49 wmat: dammit don't encourage on-topic behavior Jun 17 20:05:27 Guest58996: that's impossible to answer via IRC. Post to the mailing list with lots of details. Jun 17 20:05:52 damn.. it's TOO hot! my chocolate is still sloppy! Jun 17 20:06:25 and summer isnt even a week old Jun 17 20:07:12 it's not hot enough here Jun 17 20:07:28 wmat: where are you? alaska? Jun 17 20:08:19 waterloo, on Jun 17 20:08:57 it's actuall pleasant today, 23C Jun 17 20:09:16 KotH: where are you? Jun 17 20:10:21 wmat: good day for moose hunting? Jun 17 20:10:44 wmat: chocolate country Jun 17 20:10:53 weird mountain country Jun 17 20:11:29 thinking money laundering Jun 17 20:11:33 *think Jun 17 20:12:08 mranostay: there are better places for that... one of them being the usa Jun 17 20:12:43 its 23C here too... Jun 17 20:12:53 (out on the Pacific Plate) Jun 17 20:14:18 mranostay: it's not moose season Jun 17 20:14:26 mranostay: http://www.mnr.gov.on.ca/en/Business/FW/Publication/MNR_E001275P.html Jun 17 20:15:57 * wmat departs Jun 17 20:17:31 wmat, moose hunting? Jun 17 20:17:46 be sure to be faster than your Hunting Partner. Jun 17 20:20:27 ka6sox: that's for bears Jun 17 20:21:32 and dragons Jun 17 20:23:04 mru, moose too. Jun 17 20:23:14 (from my trips to Alaska) Jun 17 20:23:39 nothing an uzzi cannot solve Jun 17 20:23:50 or a GMW Jun 17 20:24:35 KotH, I prefer a HK91 Jun 17 20:25:11 over a GMW? Jun 17 20:25:13 no way! Jun 17 20:25:31 KotH, A bird in the Hand.... Jun 17 20:26:01 ..can mean your death, if it's someone else target Jun 17 20:26:08 :) Jun 17 20:30:09 Only gun I have is an Mosin Nagant MN1891/30. Only paid $100 for it, no budget for guns. Jun 17 20:30:37 I have no reason to own a gun Jun 17 20:30:42 me either Jun 17 20:31:34 "Marriage In Gusii community traditional marriage was arranged by the parents who find an appropriate bride and kidnap her,"... interesting ... Jun 17 20:31:52 where's that? Jun 17 20:32:01 georgem: i got my full automatic assault rifle for free Jun 17 20:32:06 mru: western kenya Jun 17 20:32:14 KotH: thats because your country is awesome Jun 17 20:32:38 mru: the gusii got mentioned in one of the lectures as an example of a culture with high social interaction Jun 17 20:33:01 georgem: no, that's because we are neutral, and we like to keep it that way Jun 17 20:33:03 kidnapping doesn't fit my idea of 'social' Jun 17 20:33:21 come on! it's just for marriage! Jun 17 20:33:36 what is a kidnapped wife or two? Jun 17 20:34:28 interestingly, the gusii seem also to be the most fertile group in kenya Jun 17 20:34:54 that's not necessarily a good thing Jun 17 20:35:51 well, according to wikipedia, due to that fertility, they have the highest emigration rate in kenya, and due to that the most inflow of hard currency in the country Jun 17 20:39:42 Hello - does anyone here have experience with multi-master I2C? Jun 17 20:48:27 * KotH wonders what would happen, when you'd raise a child with an additional, totally made up language Jun 17 20:48:48 presumably the kid would speak it Jun 17 20:49:19 sure, but how would that change its social interaction pattern with the parents and other people who do not speak that language? Jun 17 20:52:06 are you gonna raise your child entirely in klingon?! Jun 17 20:52:22 that has been done, already Jun 17 20:52:25 :'( Jun 17 20:52:51 it's not uncommon for children of immigrants to grow up speaking some language exclusively with the family Jun 17 20:53:12 * KotH knows Jun 17 20:53:21 so what's the question? Jun 17 20:54:01 i dont remember how that influenced my social interaction patterns Jun 17 20:54:19 I think we're looking at the result right now Jun 17 20:54:45 you mean, people who grow up in a bilingual environment turn up crazy like me? Jun 17 20:54:58 cool! we should promot bilingual children! Jun 17 20:55:18 * mru grew up speaking english pretty much only at home, swedish outside the home Jun 17 20:55:34 so I suspect it turns the kids into trolls Jun 17 20:55:49 any other bilinguals here? Jun 17 20:56:40 I speak English English and American English Jun 17 20:56:56 you mean english and mock english Jun 17 20:58:53 mru: actually, i grew up trilingual.... does this make me an übertroll? Jun 17 20:59:14 actually, so did I Jun 17 20:59:22 that would explain a few things Jun 17 21:03:25 <_av500_> mru: yep Jun 17 21:03:32 <_av500_> serbian at home, german in school Jun 17 21:03:39 <_av500_> troll too Jun 17 21:04:05 I detect a pattern Jun 17 21:04:11 <_av500_> right Jun 17 21:04:40 does learning additional languages later in life make a difference? Jun 17 21:05:27 * KotH "learned" 7 languages over time Jun 17 21:08:25 _av500_: serbian german troll Jun 17 21:08:41 now how does it explain mranostay? Jun 17 21:08:55 he is a freak! Jun 17 21:09:10 and then there's http://www.bonkersworld.net/spoken-languages/ Jun 17 21:09:39 mru: you aren't so normal either :P Jun 17 21:09:47 mru: lol Jun 17 21:10:02 mranostay: no, but we just discovered why Jun 17 21:10:16 which is? Jun 17 21:10:26 your irc client doesn't scroll? Jun 17 21:12:18 mru: the link? Jun 17 21:14:15 <_av500_> it puts the scroll on the wheel Jun 17 21:19:45 too many damn options@#$%@!#$!@ Jun 17 21:21:07 <_av500_> ds2: use gnome then Jun 17 21:21:13 good night trolls and trollettes Jun 17 21:21:40 <_av500_> +1 Jun 17 21:22:24 _av500_: reading different TRMs :P Jun 17 21:22:43 ARM says everything is an option but implementor describes it slightly differently Jun 17 21:23:09 the arm trm describes all the options available Jun 17 21:23:20 a specific chip trm should document which options were chosen Jun 17 21:25:15 mru: that's fine... now arm's block's TRM describes more options Jun 17 21:25:40 i.e. the GIC TRM Jun 17 21:25:54 they are options there for the A15/A9/etc TRM Jun 17 21:26:01 which in term have options for the SoC TRM Jun 17 21:26:20 if the trm for your device doesn't say which options were used, you have a problem Jun 17 21:26:52 still sorting through the ARM side options before corss checking with the different wording on the device side Jun 17 21:27:02 hence, ARRGGG Jun 17 21:30:59 woot, beagleboard just arrived in the mail! (why do I have to finish the day at work?) Jun 17 21:31:35 you have the wrong job Jun 17 21:32:06 Does anyone know if there's a build of dtc (device tree compiler) that supports the -@ parameter for the debian image for the BBB ? Jun 17 21:32:14 mru: that I can't drop all my priorities for my hobby? :P Jun 17 21:33:07 Does the BBB have external interrupts? Jun 17 21:35:24 yes Jun 17 21:35:55 you can configure many (all?) gpio pins to generate an interrupt Jun 17 21:36:03 I see Jun 17 21:37:48 OK, so some troll question from me: I have this Discovery board with Crystal codec on it (it also has an mcu, but that's a distraction and can be put in high impedance) - could I wire the codec's I2S and I2C to BBB with a bunch of wires and have it, um, work? (despite I2S clock being in megahertz range) Jun 17 21:37:49 Do you by chance know if they work similarly to the way an AVR handles interrupts? Jun 17 21:39:09 I'm not sure if radio interference hell would be enough to make it NOT work, and I'm too lazy to Just Do It if it's doomed to fail Jun 17 21:40:54 BanjoBill: I don't know. and it depends on what level you are talking about. interrupts are always kinda the same stuff. Jun 17 21:43:57 Okay, thanks Jun 17 21:47:04 Having a hard time finding any information on the website. Do I need to look at the processor datasheet to find a comprehensive list of features, tables and implementation data or are all the functions implemented at the OS level? Jun 17 21:58:17 BanjoBill: For a simple demo of interrupts on BBB, look here: http://hipstercircuits.com/capture-input-events-via-gpio-on-beaglebone-black/ Jun 17 22:00:32 BanjoBill: For a list of all the features, and how to interface them, then yes, look at the Technical Reference Manual for AM3359, but you can get most of the information from the BBB SRM Jun 17 22:01:53 the TRM contains all knowledge minus a few PRU things^H^H^H^H^H^H i mean everything :) Jun 17 22:07:51 Thanks Elias. Just what I was looking for Jun 17 22:22:03 Tartarus: u-boot supports initramfs ? i have an initramfs in cpio fromat which works in qmeu but u-boot says that ram disk is not good when i try to iminfo it Jun 17 22:22:32 vvu|Mobile, did you run mkimage on it to add the header bits, or add CONFIG_RAW_INITRD (or is it INITRD_RAW? git grep around) Jun 17 22:23:33 uoke some research is nedded, i crosscompiled busybox, added init script then find . -print0 | cpio --null -ov --format=newc > ../my-initramfs.cpio Jun 17 22:23:49 yeah Jun 17 22:23:54 more or less form tutorials only, kinda first time in this area with initramf Jun 17 22:23:55 then you either need to mkimage it Jun 17 22:23:57 so u-boot likes it Jun 17 22:24:09 or rebuild u-boot with support for unheadered initrds Jun 17 22:24:10 so i need to mkimage my .cpio? Jun 17 22:24:29 http://www.denx.de/wiki/view/DULG/RootFileSystemOnARamdisk Jun 17 22:24:38 Step 5 is what you need Jun 17 22:25:54 ok, thx for the tip. will try now to see Jun 17 22:30:12 my initramfs is in cpio format, for the compression type can i select none ? Jun 17 22:30:20 yes Jun 17 22:30:55 Hm. Jun 17 22:31:16 So, when I switch to usermode, it doesn't seem to execute. Jun 17 22:31:27 It just stops. Jun 17 22:31:32 Until it gets an IRQ. Jun 17 22:32:43 How does that even happen? Jun 17 22:34:54 Doesn't matter if caches are on or off. Jun 17 22:35:06 When I switch to user, it hangs. Jun 17 22:35:37 Tartarus: for the bootargs root=*name of initramfs* or root=*load addr*? Jun 17 22:35:56 or i need to copy the initramfs to ram then root=/dev/ram ? Jun 17 22:36:23 root=/dev/ram Jun 17 22:36:39 and then bootm kernel-load-addr initramfs-loadaddr dtb-load-addr Jun 17 22:36:45 and make sure there's no overlap Jun 17 22:36:50 yep Jun 17 22:54:51 when will we get a DTB editor in u-boot? Jun 17 22:56:03 you can already edit arbitrary memory locations Jun 17 22:56:42 no gui? Jun 17 22:56:52 it'll be cross platform code Jun 17 23:02:41 Tartarus: any clue for this one? http://pastebin.com/BvrwByk0 sorry for bugging that much Jun 17 23:02:58 my bootargs are console=ttyO0,115200n8 quiet root=/dev/ram Jun 17 23:03:17 No worries, and, would need the full boot log Jun 17 23:03:29 It looks like you don't have support for the type of filesystem that is,there Jun 17 23:03:29 ok w8 Jun 17 23:03:43 or it's not being seen as an initramfs which in turn deals w/ the real root Jun 17 23:04:01 Just got the BeagleBone Black and was having trouble upgrading the software. The instructions on the site say to write to an SD card but the Black skips this step by using the USB connections and eMMC. I wanted to double check where to write the .img file I downloaded to. I am using ImageWriter on Ubuntu and the only option I have to write to is /dev/sdc Jun 17 23:04:38 Tartarus: http://pastebin.com/2wRWnUrz Jun 17 23:05:19 you forgot your device tree Jun 17 23:05:21 and, dinner Jun 17 23:05:37 the beagle is hungry? :D Jun 17 23:13:25 when i add the device tree the kernel does not even want to start loading http://pastebin.com/h71dGqrC Jun 18 00:08:12 hello, anyone have i2c experience? I cant figure out how to enable i2c3, when i try to detect it says the directory doesn't exist Jun 18 00:09:26 what makes you think there is a third i2c bus? Jun 18 00:10:14 what makes you think there is not? Jun 18 00:11:35 mranostay: http://goo.gl/XuWBo Jun 18 00:12:08 pins 19-20 i2c-2_SDA(3) Jun 18 00:12:22 oh,..i2c channel is the 2 not the 3, right? Jun 18 00:12:47 beaglebone black* Jun 18 00:12:59 ds2: does it have three? iirc only 2 Jun 18 00:13:46 mranostay: i2cN has little to do with what the HW has vs what the SW is configured Jun 18 00:14:05 there are drivers for gpios as i2c Jun 18 00:14:11 Well I also dont have /dev/i2c-2' apparently... Jun 18 00:14:55 ds2: ok yes if you put it that way Jun 18 00:17:47 I should be able to run "i2cdetect -r -y 3" correct? Jun 18 00:31:57 what is a good reference for learning i2c, anyway? Jun 18 00:38:35 the NXP/Philips docs Jun 18 00:46:02 ds2: http://www.nxp.com/documents/user_manual/UM10204.pdf ? Jun 18 00:46:23 trippy Jun 18 00:46:28 but I'll try to read Jun 18 00:46:29 thanks Jun 18 01:08:38 hello all.... Jun 18 01:09:09 has anyone used Qt Creator under windows to deploy to beaglebone? Jun 18 01:54:51 hi emeb_mac Jun 18 01:58:02 mranostay: hola dude. Jun 18 02:07:58 is anyone here aware of any sort of beaglebone black case with buttons, not just holes? Jun 18 02:14:14 what buttons would you hope to find? That would have to be a case+cape I think... Jun 18 02:16:12 martinm: I'm thinking of plungers or something for pressing the switches that are on the BBB Jun 18 02:18:09 that was the other alternative :-) simple plungers would preclude using a cape, so that's kind of a specialized use case. given how clicky those little guys are (or seem, anyway, to ol' fat-fingers), a mechanism to act at right angles would be... interesting. especially if it would fit under a cape,,, Jun 18 02:18:50 Qt creator to deplot to the bbb ? since whebn did the Qt toolchain support arm ? Jun 18 02:22:17 is there a device tree overlay file writer in the works for noobs? Jun 18 02:22:43 (even if beaglebone specific) Jun 18 02:26:18 martinm: well, looking at mine, I see a cape would obstruct S2, but not S1 and S3 if you don't have anything past the edge of the expansion sockets (see Adafruit's protoboard cape) Jun 18 02:36:27 PRU_EVTOUT_ as simple as DT files are it would be pretty easy to write one Jun 18 02:37:10 i dont userstand everything yet myself otherwise i might give it a shot Jun 18 02:37:22 busy workign on bigger / badd things Jun 18 02:37:29 badder too Jun 18 02:43:43 m_billybob: you have to go read many docs to understand them. a tool would be "enable i2c0", "enable i2c1", etc. Jun 18 02:43:49 writing configuration files should *never* be a human task. Jun 18 02:44:05 or at least barely human readable configuration files. Jun 18 02:44:10 that's why computers were invented :P Jun 18 02:46:00 PRU_EVTOUT_, knock yourself out lol Jun 18 02:46:58 I dont dissagree at all, but finding someone to write such a tool . . . Jun 18 02:47:56 just wondering if it was in the works. Jun 18 02:51:38 I've been busy working on nfs root, soon to attempt nfs boot then iscsi boot afterwrds Jun 18 02:52:23 oh nice! Jun 18 02:52:40 i have played much with boot config. Jun 18 02:52:54 this is the writeup ive done on it http://www.embeddedhobbyist.com/beaglebone-black-nfs-root/ Jun 18 02:52:56 is it possible to do something like "nfs boot if it's there, boot local if it's not"? Jun 18 02:53:35 that would require and if /elese statement in uEnv.txt. I am pretty sure that is possible Jun 18 02:53:40 rad! Jun 18 02:53:58 that would be a nice way to reflash local images from teh network, all automatic and forced like. Jun 18 02:54:19 I still need to learn a bunch on uboot / uEnv.txt Jun 18 02:55:40 I believe it is ${optargs} thats allows you to pass parameters to the kernel ( from within uEnv.txt ) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jun 18 02:59:59 2013