**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jun 19 02:59:58 2013 Jun 19 06:09:38 hello Jun 19 06:10:30 can you please provide me the prices for Beagle Board Jun 19 06:10:50 yes but no Jun 19 06:11:31 we are resellers & distributors in Indai, Bangalore one of our customer need the product Jun 19 06:11:40 so hw can u help me Jun 19 06:13:30 Hi Everyone. How can I SSH to BB Black via Ethernet (USB works fine out of the box on 192.168.2.7). Tried few tutorials in the web for original BeagleBone with no success . The board is not recognised on the COM port. Thank you in advance Jun 19 06:17:36 AlDn: just install and activate openssh-server... well, I think it's on by default on the majority of images Jun 19 06:17:41 AlDn: do you know its IP address? Jun 19 06:26:18 koen, yes, you can read the bandgap sensor by writing the right values to the register Jun 19 06:26:47 i didn't have time to do a hwmon driver yet, though Jun 19 06:27:04 anyone know if the audio cape works on the BBB? Jun 19 06:37:39 only if you disable HDMI Jun 19 06:37:51 http://www.elinux.org/BeagleBone_Black_Capes Jun 19 06:40:17 since I don't have a BBB yet I'm not sure how the HDMI framer will affect the pins even if you don't turn it off Jun 19 06:40:22 even if you turn it off Jun 19 06:43:38 thx vaizki Jun 19 06:54:40 as I understand it they did break out the SPI bus for I2S audio on P9/28-31 so you could just get a DAC with I2S input and wire that up.. but I'm crap at analog so don't ask me about opamps etc :) Jun 19 06:55:21 in summary what the above means is that there will probably be a new audio cape for the BBB that uses I2S Jun 19 06:55:48 vaizki: yeah - I may play with that sometime. Jun 19 06:56:08 but for now "asking for a friend" who's thinking of setting up an mpd server Jun 19 06:56:23 and just wants to buy BBB + audio cape. Jun 19 06:57:31 just get a cheap usb audio Jun 19 06:57:41 it will cost a fraction of the audio cape Jun 19 06:58:19 see, that's the thing - he wants some higher quality audio than is possible w/ cheap dongles Jun 19 06:58:37 so get a good async usb audio? Jun 19 06:58:45 like a hrt streamer whatever Jun 19 06:59:14 http://highresolutiontechnologies.com/ Jun 19 07:00:45 just make an SPDIF cape Jun 19 07:00:59 and then go into your 5k$ high end DAC Jun 19 07:01:00 emeb_mac: FGPA! Jun 19 07:01:04 av500: TROLL! Jun 19 07:01:11 mranostay: DRUNK! Jun 19 07:01:22 nope Jun 19 07:01:24 mranostay: RADIATION! Jun 19 07:03:00 if you start making a custom cape, WM8804 to turn I2S into SPDIF is very straightforward Jun 19 07:03:12 emeb_mac: GAMMA RAYS FOR EVERYONE. STOP. Jun 19 07:03:23 av500: good idea. Jun 19 07:03:43 morning Jun 19 07:03:52 mranostay: darn - I wanted alpha radiatioin Jun 19 07:04:26 well straightforward if you like soldering SSOPs Jun 19 07:04:59 vaizki: I got no problem soldering SMDs, SSOPs, TSSOPs MSOPs, etc. Jun 19 07:06:13 * emeb_mac is puzzled by folks who insist on using DIPs Jun 19 07:09:40 * mranostay cuts open a smoker detector for emeb_mac Jun 19 07:10:06 mmm... americium. Jun 19 07:11:28 * av500 wonders if GPMC could fake an ISA bus Jun 19 07:11:38 interesting question Jun 19 07:11:38 I have ISA SPDIF cards Jun 19 07:11:54 even a 2.4ish linux driver for it Jun 19 07:11:58 OSS Jun 19 07:12:02 whoa! Jun 19 07:12:13 was a magazine project Jun 19 07:12:13 av500, probably Jun 19 07:12:20 built 3 Jun 19 07:12:27 for me and friends Jun 19 07:12:31 never used them much :) Jun 19 07:12:36 sadness Jun 19 07:12:42 hacking the OSS driver was fun Jun 19 07:12:47 I'll bet Jun 19 07:12:49 since OSS assumed you would always do DMA Jun 19 07:12:58 but these were just mem read/write Jun 19 07:13:04 PIO FTW Jun 19 07:13:07 yes Jun 19 07:13:08 it worked Jun 19 07:13:18 cards have a fifo Jun 19 07:13:18 but used a bit more CPU cycles Jun 19 07:14:22 http://www.mail-archive.com/alsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net/msg01420.html Jun 19 07:15:27 ah here: http://electrickery.xs4all.nl/digaud/elrad/9408048/takefive.html Jun 19 07:15:35 http://electrickery.xs4all.nl/digaud/elrad/9408048/take5p1f1.jpg Jun 19 07:16:21 oi - that's a lot of parts Jun 19 07:16:24 ordering parts from Yamaha was also fun Jun 19 07:16:28 emeb_mac: oi yes Jun 19 07:16:29 I'll bet Jun 19 07:16:59 probably be easier to do it *WITH AN FPGA* Jun 19 07:17:32 oh hey - look! the BCC card sits on the GPMC. :) Jun 19 07:17:32 these days yes Jun 19 07:18:11 http://electrickery.xs4all.nl/digaud/elrad/9408048/take5p2.gif Jun 19 07:18:12 :) Jun 19 07:19:17 there was a linux driver already Jun 19 07:19:24 but that was basically a hacked up OSS Jun 19 07:19:33 that did not work with other OSS drivers Jun 19 07:19:36 so it was either or Jun 19 07:21:46 probably a lot easier to just do an I2S <-> SPDIF chip like this: http://www.cirrus.com/en/products/cs8406.html Jun 19 07:22:08 emeb_mac, how fast is the spdif bitrate? Jun 19 07:22:22 emeb_mac: sure Jun 19 07:22:35 panto: up to 192k Jun 19 07:22:56 bitrate Jun 19 07:23:03 erp Jun 19 07:23:24 12.288MHz? Jun 19 07:23:43 http://www.avsforum.com/t/972048/s-pdif-max-bitrate Jun 19 07:23:49 people are confused :) Jun 19 07:24:50 192k x 32 x 2. May be some overhead in there too though. Jun 19 07:25:18 Signal bitrate is 2.8Mhz (Fs=44.1kHz), 2Mhz (Fs=32kHz) and 3.1Mhz (Fs=48kHz). Jun 19 07:27:28 panto: btw is the card detect line even hooked up on the BBB? Jun 19 07:27:38 no idea Jun 19 07:27:54 btw, I'm making good progress on the pru Jun 19 07:28:09 panto: can we stop using the ARM soon? Jun 19 07:28:11 before long pruss_uio will die Jun 19 07:28:19 av500, yes :) Jun 19 07:28:35 the end game would be a PRU ELF personality :) Jun 19 07:29:08 * mranostay dances off to sleep Jun 19 07:29:21 watch out for the cat Jun 19 07:29:24 guten Nicht alle Jun 19 07:29:27 emeb_mac: ok, looks like any rate that both sides support is doable Jun 19 07:29:45 so > 48k is OK? Jun 19 07:30:01 mranostay: guten nicht. hah! Jun 19 07:30:12 av500, http://pastebin.com/FuENzajN Jun 19 07:30:27 mranostay schematics say yes Jun 19 07:30:27 or is it nacht? Jun 19 07:32:14 nacht Jun 19 07:32:24 mranostay: depends on what you're trying to say. Jun 19 07:32:26 you said 'good not' Jun 19 07:32:46 yoda german Jun 19 07:33:07 good not all! Jun 19 07:33:30 McCoy german "Ich bin Artz und kein Mauerer." Jun 19 07:34:26 Arzt Jun 19 07:34:55 Dho! Jun 19 07:35:10 lysdexia. ;) Jun 19 07:35:52 * emeb_mac resolves to leave the german for the germans. Jun 19 07:35:58 Here´s no video chinch output, right? Jun 19 07:36:56 right Jun 19 07:37:20 wut? Jun 19 07:37:23 <_Sy_> hello Jun 19 07:37:58 av500: arzt is one of those words that torment the kids in highschool german classes Jun 19 07:38:03 so the raspberry cant b used with ubuntu, right? Jun 19 07:38:48 sure it can Jun 19 07:39:03 is ubuntu cinch only? Jun 19 07:39:41 the raspberry PI with Ubunu? I didnt find an Image. Soi dont need this beagleboard? Jun 19 07:39:58 sorry Jun 19 07:40:00 mixed that up Jun 19 07:40:06 no Jun 19 07:40:07 didn't someone knock together an RCA video output on Beagle at one point? Jun 19 07:40:09 no ubuntu on the pi Jun 19 07:40:10 no i desnt have anything t do with the graphic utput Jun 19 07:40:51 I bet you could do composite video with the PRU. :) Jun 19 07:41:07 I a using the debian raspian of linux but no much software available. Jun 19 07:41:29 pru? Jun 19 07:41:51 https://plus.google.com/u/0/110773474140772402317/posts/Am7sBJqgEJh Jun 19 07:41:52 pru is a little coprocessor on the AM335x Jun 19 07:41:52 arzt? Better than testing mini computers? Jun 19 07:41:54 Jesus2010: so yes, if you need ubuntu, you can use the BBB Jun 19 07:42:28 * av500 goes to score tiropita Jun 19 07:42:54 spanakopita Jun 19 07:43:04 or that Jun 19 07:43:20 yum Jun 19 07:43:33 gn Jun 19 07:43:51 i tested ubuntu on pc, it was ok but i am to stupid to install another browser i had to typ a pw bt it didnt work Jun 19 07:47:05 i cant see t youtube video on my raspbery now it midori browser Jun 19 07:49:10 this is not a raspberry channel Jun 19 07:50:56 av500, we support 47 different flavours of everything from ngstrom to Ubuntu to Darwin to Android to Debian...why not Raspy crap? Jun 19 07:51:21 support? Jun 19 07:51:56 i can't seem to find where the mmc0 pins are setup in the kernel? Jun 19 07:52:46 see...we have NO Idea of what kernel, for what distribution philenotfound is asking about. Jun 19 07:54:02 angstrom kernel Jun 19 07:54:17 OR for what board or what version of the kernel Jun 19 07:54:33 eagleboard Jun 19 07:54:36 linux 4.2 Jun 19 07:54:36 bbb Jun 19 07:54:54 av500, now thats forward thinking Jun 19 07:55:07 is the O5 even taped out? Jun 19 07:55:38 philenotfound, WHICH version of BBB firmware, which kernel Jun 19 07:56:07 ka6sox: what firmware? Jun 19 07:56:26 which VERSION of BBB Firmware..what date? Jun 19 07:57:19 i build my kernel using the script from https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel/tree/3.8 Jun 19 07:57:35 * ka6sox counts to 10 Jun 19 07:57:52 philenotfound, for boot its in arch/arm/boot/devicetree Jun 19 07:58:01 for capes its in firmware/capes Jun 19 07:58:43 ka6sox: i know, that's where i looked Jun 19 07:59:02 but no indication of mmc0 (u-sd) pins Jun 19 07:59:35 philenotfound, its possible that is being set in u-boot but there are others who probably know better. Jun 19 07:59:46 makes sense its being done in uboot :) Jun 19 07:59:48 ka6sox: that's what i have feared Jun 19 07:59:59 except for card detect Jun 19 08:00:09 which is not working in linux Jun 19 08:00:12 card detect is broken Jun 19 08:00:13 right Jun 19 08:00:18 its bork3n Jun 19 08:01:13 the right way to do it is via dt, afaik? Jun 19 08:01:27 yes Jun 19 08:01:41 but its possible its being handled in u-boot sources Jun 19 08:01:58 I don't rightly know as I've not worked with that subsystem Jun 19 08:02:21 ka6sox: even with 'broken-cd' in the DT (poll mode) the sd slot doesn't work Jun 19 08:02:47 huh? thats seriously broken Jun 19 08:02:58 ka6sox: I strongly suspect somethign like hwmod is powering down the controller Jun 19 08:03:04 ugh Jun 19 08:03:20 if I knew uboot better I might look into that. Jun 19 08:03:26 ka6sox: add 'broken-cd;' to the DT for mmc0 and try Jun 19 08:03:36 I'd love to be wrong on this :) Jun 19 08:03:36 kk Jun 19 08:03:48 makes 2 of us who hope you are wrong Jun 19 08:04:41 1am here and I've been "partying" too much today...sugar crash. Jun 19 08:04:59 koen I might take a look at that in the morning. Jun 19 08:05:04 thanks for the heads up Jun 19 08:05:33 maybe we can poke uboot to keep the controller powered up Jun 19 08:05:51 oh wait Jun 19 08:06:00 this is after boot if hwmod is doing this Jun 19 08:06:06 see..it *is* too late Jun 19 08:14:11 a wonderfull summer JIHAD! Jun 19 08:14:51 KotH, let's jihad the nudist beaches! Jun 19 08:15:27 yeah! Jun 19 08:16:28 but wait, isn't that against most religions? Jun 19 08:17:32 beaches are allowed Jun 19 08:18:03 as long as you're eating a hotdog and it's friday Jun 19 08:31:57 um, http://cubiestore.com/blogs/news/8136505-cubieboard2-is-here Jun 19 08:40:51 koen: broken-cd doesn't fix it Jun 19 08:41:11 philenotfound: thanks for the confirmation Jun 19 08:42:32 koen: i'm not a dt expert, is setting up the correct pins via dt enough? Jun 19 08:42:51 for what? Jun 19 08:43:07 for a working usd Jun 19 08:43:58 the stock kernel sets everything up correctly, which is why it works if you boot from uSD Jun 19 08:44:16 but for some reason booting it with the slot empty breaks horribly Jun 19 08:45:08 koen: stock kernel? Jun 19 08:45:43 https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel/tree/3.8 Jun 19 08:46:15 okay, so we are talking about the same kernel tree, good Jun 19 08:46:17 :-) Jun 19 08:48:04 Does anyone know if the AM335x on the beaglebone black is Rev 1.x or Rev 2.x please ? Jun 19 08:48:21 Rev2 Jun 19 08:48:26 Thanks Jun 19 08:48:51 Does anyone know the package type of the chip? Jun 19 08:49:03 ZCE/ZCZ ? Jun 19 08:51:13 Stanto: zcz Jun 19 08:51:54 Stanto: 2.0 to be exact since 2.1 is not available Jun 19 08:52:01 Excellent, cheers :) Jun 19 08:52:05 and yes, 2.0 was never supposed to ship to customers Jun 19 08:52:11 Stanto: most of the info is here: http://circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=BeagleBoneBlack Jun 19 08:52:36 Thanks Jun 19 09:12:45 panto: there are enough religions in the mid west where running around nude is a requirement Jun 19 09:12:53 panto: especially for girls Jun 19 09:13:35 excellent Jun 19 09:13:41 less jihad, more boobies Jun 19 09:14:26 panto: you know where that's going... Jun 19 09:14:55 ok, no more sexist jokes for today Jun 19 09:14:58 thank you mr pc Jun 19 09:15:00 MAKE BOOBIES NOT JIHAD? Jun 19 09:15:11 how is booby formed? Jun 19 09:15:24 panto: I was merely referring to http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/193 Jun 19 09:15:37 mru: +1 Jun 19 09:15:55 see also http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/185 Jun 19 09:16:16 mru: shhhhh, or he gets detained at some French airport Jun 19 09:16:34 well, doesn't matter, PRISM knows all Jun 19 09:19:14 I bet NSA analysts are begging to get #beagle filtered Jun 19 09:19:20 out of their stream Jun 19 09:19:56 av500: NSA are going all JIHAD on #beagle? Jun 19 09:20:22 in other words Jun 19 09:22:30 av500: i'm quite sure they are begging to get asigned to read #beagle Jun 19 09:22:45 av500: better than listening to old wives telefoone conversations ;) Jun 19 09:23:22 telefun Jun 19 09:25:24 * KotH isnt typy today Jun 19 09:25:28 ...again Jun 19 09:34:05 damn, that e-cig irritates my throat more than regular cigs, strange Jun 19 09:34:20 different set of toxins Jun 19 09:34:47 it's my understanding that the only toxin is nicotin in the product Jun 19 09:34:57 Toxin <> irritant. Jun 19 09:35:12 propylene glycol isn't usually recommended for human consumption Jun 19 09:35:36 that's the main ingredient in e-cigarettes Jun 19 09:35:38 isn't it classified as GRS ? Jun 19 09:35:41 Also, for example, smoking pot hurts my throat way less than vaporizing pot. I think it's due to the way higher concentration of cannabinoids in the vapor when compared with smoke. Jun 19 09:35:49 Since cannabinoids irritate skin a bit. Jun 19 09:36:05 But then vapor feels better inside my lungs than smoke. Jun 19 09:36:25 yeah the lady told me that 4 puffs would be equivalent to a whole fag Jun 19 09:36:44 so the channel moved from jihad to drugs... Jun 19 09:36:55 coffee is a drug too ! Jun 19 09:36:57 hard to stay on topic when you're stoned Jun 19 09:37:38 coffee is not a drug Jun 19 09:37:48 coffee is the force of life itself Jun 19 09:37:54 So a drug ;p Jun 19 09:38:10 and bacon? Jun 19 09:38:19 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_KFebLWpY0 Jun 19 09:38:20 I wouldn't know, I'm abstinent. Jun 19 09:38:37 some other food then Jun 19 09:38:37 speaking of which, coffee time Jun 19 09:38:41 +1 Jun 19 09:39:14 +1 Jun 19 09:39:25 already fetched Jun 19 09:41:17 far fetched? Jun 19 09:41:29 only across the room Jun 19 09:43:09 near sourcing Jun 19 09:43:23 29.5° Jun 19 09:43:25 nice Jun 19 09:48:57 we have that in the office ^^' Jun 19 09:49:48 here too Jun 19 09:53:43 33C here Jun 19 09:58:59 one of the reasons I don't live in the US: http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2013/06/18/rep_mike_burgess_of_texas_suggests_banning_abortion_because_fetuses_masturbate.html Jun 19 09:59:43 hah Jun 19 09:59:54 wtf Jun 19 10:00:23 I don't want to click that I think, my opinion of humanity is too low already Jun 19 10:00:38 url says all you need to know Jun 19 10:01:34 what you didn't need to know: "Burgess was actually a gynecologist before he decided to go into politics" Jun 19 10:02:05 I have some trouble understanting the flow of events when sending data to MMC. Jun 19 10:02:39 mru: at least it's nice to see that the us is going down the same drain as .tr Jun 19 10:03:06 I am not using DMA mode and first send a MMC command and get a response but I wonder when to fill the transmit buffer. Jun 19 10:03:43 I think it needs to happen after sendinf the command so controller knows the DDIR (data dir flag) Jun 19 10:05:06 sendinf -> sending. I there some description for the polling/interrupt driven flow? Jun 19 10:17:24 mru: the stupid, it burns! Jun 19 10:27:13 * kfoltman feels tempted to make a BB-to-Discovery "adapter" cape Jun 19 10:27:55 thought it would have to be either a really long board, or always be the top cape Jun 19 10:36:26 discovery the shuttle? Jun 19 10:36:38 rocket cape Jun 19 10:36:41 av500: no, that went boom some decades ago Jun 19 10:36:50 did it? Jun 19 10:36:52 no Jun 19 10:36:52 or no, that was another one Jun 19 10:36:56 challenger Jun 19 10:36:59 challenger Jun 19 10:37:10 and one more, no? Jun 19 10:37:26 the heat tile on reentry one Jun 19 10:37:31 yes, columbia Jun 19 10:37:46 don't give rockets names starting with c Jun 19 10:37:58 what is the best 3D printer to start with? Jun 19 10:38:08 one that works Jun 19 10:38:09 av500: STMicro makes a series of low-cost microcontroller boards, and they call it STM32somethingDiscovery (where something = F0, F3, F4 and I think VL) Jun 19 10:38:29 kfoltman: these are not low cost controllers Jun 19 10:38:37 kfoltman: these are actually quite expensive controllers Jun 19 10:38:37 KotH: low-cost *boards* :) Jun 19 10:38:43 kfoltman: nah Jun 19 10:38:51 kfoltman: launchpads are low cost boards Jun 19 10:38:56 used to be 5usd Jun 19 10:39:02 kfoltman: ah yes Jun 19 10:39:05 have some here Jun 19 10:39:07 unused Jun 19 10:39:12 on "the pile" Jun 19 10:39:14 av500: send them over here Jun 19 10:39:17 nah Jun 19 10:39:19 av500: then they can rest on my pile Jun 19 10:39:21 what do I get in return= Jun 19 10:39:23 ? Jun 19 10:39:24 * mru glances at his pile Jun 19 10:39:29 av500: you get JIHAD ;) Jun 19 10:40:09 av500: i might consider forgiving you for not handing over your imortal soul Jun 19 10:40:24 KotH: ok, low-cost as in "still counts as beer money" - launchpads are "insanely low cost" to me ;) Jun 19 10:40:26 KotH: av500 has only an immoral soul Jun 19 10:40:41 JIHAD and a box of chocolates Jun 19 10:41:04 mru: good enough. there is a place and use for every kind of soul Jun 19 10:41:17 av500: and you still owe me your first born Jun 19 10:41:18 KotH: but I think most other mcu boards are >100 euro Jun 19 10:41:31 kfoltman: you are looking at the wrong places Jun 19 10:41:52 kfoltman: olimex sells that kind of boards for <100euro... and they are not even subsidized Jun 19 10:43:41 KotH: yes, I was looking at olimex boards too - still, discovery sounds like good value, it isn't as barebones as h407 and it's not as expensive as p407 Jun 19 10:43:55 I specifically needed an audio output though Jun 19 10:44:28 if you don't want audio output, microphone or accelerometer, and have your own SWD/JIHAD adapter, then h407 is better Jun 19 10:44:37 yeah.. Jun 19 10:45:04 just a shame they didnt make it possible to connect a ethernet phy Jun 19 10:45:28 you're in the "can make own PCBs easily" group, so I think a bare headerboard or E407 is a better option in any case Jun 19 10:51:59 hello Jun 19 10:52:53 i flashed the latest image after i got the new BeagleBone Black Jun 19 10:53:12 kernel is 3.8.13 Jun 19 11:24:01 Hello, I just flashed the latest bbb-flasher-debian on bbb but I can't even access the internet through ethernet Jun 19 11:25:07 ... /etc/network/interfaces are already set up as they should Jun 19 11:30:08 this is the flow when using dma (from the trm) http://www.keesj.dds.nl/mmc_write_dma.png and I wonder if I can wait for the MMC response before filling the buffer Jun 19 11:31:14 e.g. I am currently waiting for the command complete interrupt before filling the buffer but get timeouts (on write) Jun 19 11:32:49 what kind of a device are you connecting to? Jun 19 11:34:40 a class 10 micro sd-card (BBW) Jun 19 11:35:43 hmm, that's weird Jun 19 11:35:50 any idea maker/model/controller Jun 19 11:36:25 it is probably a logic bug in my code but I don't fully understand the programming model (when not using DMA). Jun 19 11:37:35 ScanDisk Ultra "Ideal for Android[tm] powered stuff" Jun 19 11:37:49 yes Jun 19 11:37:51 run Android Jun 19 11:38:28 Do I need a blank card ? Jun 19 11:39:04 Solved: I just had to reset a couple of times... lool Jun 19 12:00:52 http://www.jesusandmo.net/2013/06/19/trust/ Jun 19 12:01:23 "denmark, land of beer, bacon, and blasphemy" Jun 19 12:02:19 lol Jun 19 12:02:24 i must go there! Jun 19 12:02:42 * mru has been there Jun 19 12:03:22 might find an excuse to again Jun 19 12:07:30 moaning, channel Jun 19 12:07:36 moaning indeed Jun 19 12:07:41 mourning bradfa Jun 19 12:07:44 welcome to #offtopic Jun 19 12:07:55 oh good Jun 19 12:08:22 I like to eat eat eat apples and bananas Jun 19 12:08:24 mru, what would you say it's limiting video playback perf on the bb most? Jun 19 12:08:35 besides the non existant hw accelerator Jun 19 12:08:35 panto: the bone? Jun 19 12:08:38 yes Jun 19 12:08:50 you mentioned something about the yuv-rgb conversion Jun 19 12:09:04 yes, that's a heavy bit of processing Jun 19 12:09:21 if done in software it can easily take 30% of the cpu time Jun 19 12:09:32 it can probably be done with the gpu Jun 19 12:09:41 but that still eats memory bandwidth Jun 19 12:09:42 is it cpu limited or memory bandwidth limited Jun 19 12:09:54 and memory bw is not abundant either Jun 19 12:10:04 I would guess it's memory mostly Jun 19 12:10:45 hmm, pru offload might help there? Jun 19 12:11:06 there's a mac but not any insn parallelism Jun 19 12:11:07 pru or gpu doesn't really matter Jun 19 12:11:11 still the same memory load Jun 19 12:11:23 and pru might struggle to keep up actually Jun 19 12:11:28 we're on a higher clocked memory Jun 19 12:11:32 than the white Jun 19 12:11:46 what freq? Jun 19 12:11:50 and how wide? Jun 19 12:12:00 mru: I would say GPU is the better way Jun 19 12:12:13 yeah Jun 19 12:12:14 this way you can convert and overlay OSD Jun 19 12:12:24 and android was running with GPU on omap3 Jun 19 12:12:29 av500: yes, the gpu is better suited Jun 19 12:12:30 but it's been slow coming out of the jaws of imageon Jun 19 12:12:33 am335 should not be that far off Jun 19 12:12:48 isn't the memory bus 16-bit? Jun 19 12:12:52 yes Jun 19 12:12:55 IIRC Jun 19 12:12:57 also the scaling is slow as hell without hw accel Jun 19 12:13:14 gpu can do that too Jun 19 12:13:17 yes Jun 19 12:13:23 DDR3 400MHz IIRC Jun 19 12:13:25 the current one? Jun 19 12:13:39 the current GPU? Jun 19 12:13:39 I think it has shaders Jun 19 12:13:46 I need shade Jun 19 12:13:47 panto: so same throughput as the beagle-xm with 32-bit 200MHz Jun 19 12:14:05 but dunno if there's opencl support Jun 19 12:14:08 panto: the am335c GPU is it not the same as omap3? Jun 19 12:14:12 gpu can do that? is it just missing software support? Jun 19 12:14:14 panto: no opencl Jun 19 12:14:30 a gpu by definition does scaling Jun 19 12:14:42 how well it's another matter Jun 19 12:14:46 even if they call it texture mapping Jun 19 12:14:47 not on my C64 Jun 19 12:14:53 so koen any ETA on the sgx drop? Jun 19 12:15:24 sgx530 Jun 19 12:15:29 is that not the same as omap3? Jun 19 12:15:40 why do we need a separate drop? Jun 19 12:15:50 lawyers Jun 19 12:16:36 so the SW already works? Jun 19 12:16:45 nope, we didn't say that Jun 19 12:16:55 the old sgx driver had hooks in da8xx fb Jun 19 12:17:08 in the kernel driver? Jun 19 12:17:11 which is now (thankfully) dead and burried Jun 19 12:17:14 *buried Jun 19 12:17:17 av500, yes Jun 19 12:17:20 so Jun 19 12:17:22 thats open source Jun 19 12:17:27 its about the closed libs Jun 19 12:17:49 it's about the license to redistribute IIRC Jun 19 12:17:59 so the SW works? Jun 19 12:18:04 koen knows all the horrible details Jun 19 12:18:05 its just the missing signature? Jun 19 12:18:18 av500, no, we need hooks to the new DRM driver Jun 19 12:18:34 ok Jun 19 12:18:34 supposedly there's another DRM driver that's supported so it might just be generic stuff Jun 19 12:18:42 btw, sgx 530 1.2.5 on botg Jun 19 12:18:49 both Jun 19 12:18:52 am335 and 3730 Jun 19 12:18:58 yeah Jun 19 12:19:23 so, know if android on omap3 did sgx playback acceleration? Jun 19 12:19:40 no Jun 19 12:19:48 it used oamp3 hw overlays Jun 19 12:19:57 opamp? Jun 19 12:20:00 ompa Jun 19 12:20:11 lompa Jun 19 12:20:13 cue dm8tbr Jun 19 12:20:16 boo! Jun 19 12:20:18 time to eat Jun 19 12:20:20 later trolls Jun 19 12:20:22 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0WkTNpRqhs Jun 19 12:20:34 koen: remember that poster with 'ompa3' in large print? Jun 19 12:22:04 yes Jun 19 12:22:12 LUGradio wolverhampton Jun 19 12:22:14 mooA Jun 19 12:24:42 ompa3? oompa loompa3? Jun 19 12:25:38 mru: damn, that's 5 years ago already Jun 19 12:25:44 yes Jun 19 12:25:49 omap gangnam style Jun 19 12:30:20 this Daniel Phillips guy with his Tux3 filesystem needs some lessons in terseness Jun 19 12:30:32 his emails are like novels Jun 19 12:31:13 that's the one that's magically faster until you realise he's not measuring the same thing? Jun 19 12:31:48 https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/linux.kernel/CxjPfuyHf0Q Jun 19 12:31:55 mru: the one and only Jun 19 12:32:38 an asynchronous filesystem might be interesting in some cases Jun 19 12:32:49 and totally useless in others Jun 19 12:33:06 so is nosql Jun 19 12:33:21 so is almost everything Jun 19 12:33:29 everything except bacon Jun 19 12:33:40 I'm sure his concept is very interesting; I just wish he wouldn't circle the bush 10 times before making each point Jun 19 12:33:51 they're always like that Jun 19 12:33:55 mmmm bacon... Jun 19 12:34:25 hmm, I realise I used noSQL a long time before it was hip Jun 19 12:34:32 I just did not know it was called like that Jun 19 12:35:11 I suspect most of us did Jun 19 12:35:24 Oh crap. What have we done: http://news.slashdot.org/story/13/06/18/2049242/kwin-maintainer-fanboys-and-trolls-are-the-cancer-killing-free-software Jun 19 12:35:44 actual story please Jun 19 12:35:49 * mru does not read slashdot Jun 19 12:36:12 http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2013/06/fanboys-in-free-software/ Jun 19 12:36:22 90% idiot free version: http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2013/06/fanboys-in-free-software/ Jun 19 12:36:58 fanboys and trolls? I thought it was lennart Jun 19 12:40:20 why is raspbian only 450MB? Jun 19 12:40:24 and our is 2GB? Jun 19 12:40:35 and raspi is a real computer already Jun 19 12:41:07 so ours is better than real Jun 19 12:41:12 4x Jun 19 12:41:13 lol Jun 19 12:41:28 it must be angstrom bloat Jun 19 12:41:33 is it because the bus can only handle 50Kbs so the software has to be small? Jun 19 12:41:35 or do we have 1.5GB of .js? Jun 19 12:41:39 augumented reality? 4D? Jun 19 12:42:55 so, what was the sgx story av500 summoned me about? Jun 19 12:43:02 no Jun 19 12:43:05 about ompa Jun 19 12:43:46 aha Jun 19 12:43:48 ompa loompas? Jun 19 12:44:20 was thinking more about your taste in music Jun 19 12:45:12 mmm, should get me the latest elakalaiset album Jun 19 12:45:31 that one Jun 19 12:46:08 although they are more popular in .de than in .fi actually Jun 19 13:34:14 wow sweden outlaws mobile phones Jun 19 13:34:19 ? Jun 19 13:34:24 <_av500_> http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130606/11475923344/sweden-makes-it-illegal-to-take-photos-private-environments-without-permission.shtml Jun 19 13:35:19 aaargh, why must they use the trebuchet ms font? Jun 19 13:37:30 techdirt? Jun 19 13:37:34 yes Jun 19 13:37:54 it's a horrible typeface Jun 19 13:37:58 because Glyn Moddy is an open source and free speech activist Jun 19 13:38:22 in other words, no idea Jun 19 13:39:36 I suppose I could find something better with similar metrics and substitute it Jun 19 13:40:47 I dont think I have it even installed Jun 19 13:46:20 it's really annoying when sites use some crappy webfont Jun 19 13:46:25 those are almost impossible to override Jun 19 13:46:49 short of disabling downloaded fonts entirely Jun 19 13:55:24 Is there any way to mount empty SD card at BBB? There is no appropriate device (/dev/mmcblk1) after loading and it doesn't boot with empty SD card onboard. Jun 19 13:57:04 hmm Jun 19 13:57:06 it should Jun 19 13:57:12 ah no Jun 19 13:57:15 still that bug? Jun 19 13:59:11 hello~ Jun 19 13:59:17 Hell low~ Jun 19 13:59:31 I have A5A with the latest firmware installed and it seems there in no auto-detect feature Jun 19 14:00:14 av500, which bug? Jun 19 14:01:34 Hi~ Jun 19 14:01:40 does not boot with sd card inside bug Jun 19 14:01:54 NU_BEE: try to say something Jun 19 14:01:57 with meaning Jun 19 14:02:15 av500, it there any fix or workaround on it? Jun 19 14:02:51 well, you can boot from sd Jun 19 14:03:27 I'm waiting my beagle...;;; Board did not arrive to me yet Jun 19 14:03:53 so? Jun 19 14:04:26 so who? me? sunfish? Jun 19 14:04:44 av500, I can, but it doesn't seems smart solution. What is root cause of this problem? Jun 19 14:05:50 the boot scripts need fixing Jun 19 14:06:06 NU_BEE, we feel your pain but we can't help you, be patient Jun 19 14:06:19 av500, is there any manual/howto on it? Jun 19 14:06:27 how long have you been waiting, NU_BEE ? Jun 19 14:06:33 LOL !!! Jun 19 14:06:41 sunfish: basically the boot script looks for a uEnv.txt file in the root of the SD card, if it doesn't find it, it just halts instead of proceeding to the onboard eMMC. Jun 19 14:06:56 I'm......waiting 1 and half month : ( Jun 19 14:07:10 NU_BEE: where do you live? Jun 19 14:07:24 KR / south korea~ Jun 19 14:07:25 sunfish: the way around it is to format the SD and put a specific uEnv.txt in there to tell it to boot off the eMMC. I have an example here: http://spirilis.net/junk/uEnv.txt Jun 19 14:07:51 Spirilis, thanks will try right now Jun 19 14:08:07 sunfish: that file needs to have UNIX-style newlines (i.e. linefeed) and not windows-style CR+LF linefeeds. downloading that file from the URL and copying it to the SD should work (copy & paste might not) Jun 19 14:09:10 Spirilis, I'm under Linux, so it's OK. What partitions are supported? vfat, ext2, ext4? Jun 19 14:09:17 sunfish: all of them :) Jun 19 14:09:39 sunfish: I like using ext4 since the SD will be more usable inside linux imo. Jun 19 14:09:48 full permissions support/etc Jun 19 14:10:06 ok, thanks Jun 19 14:11:32 NU_BEE: I bought my beaglebone black may 18 and it got here about one week and a half ago... so that makes it almost two months, I can say I felt your pain :P Jun 19 14:11:54 !!!!wow.....;; Jun 19 14:12:09 err, wait Jun 19 14:12:15 may 18. Sorry. One month only Jun 19 14:12:24 it's june 19 now Jun 19 14:12:27 confused with another device that indeed took more than two months, pcduino Jun 19 14:12:43 so if you got it a week and a half ago, that's 2.5 weeks Jun 19 14:12:49 yep Jun 19 14:13:03 or maybe closer to 3 Jun 19 14:15:08 well, it's hard to cope with this anxiety, but at least I track all my orders... Jun 19 14:15:17 got about 8 or 9 in transit Jun 19 14:16:30 my goods depature...from texas.... via alaska.... and...now.....uh? arrival my country~ >_< Jun 19 14:16:45 Thank you for asking Jun 19 14:17:27 dans Jun 19 14:21:27 Hi all, I'm wanting to use the microSD card slot on the Beaglebone Black for extra storage. does anyone have any experience doing this who could point me in the right direction? thanks Jun 19 14:22:30 Hi~ Jun 19 14:25:09 My beagle...Maybe tomorrow will be able to meet. Jun 19 14:26:06 Beagledannny, add this file http://spirilis.net/junk/uEnv.txt to your empty SD card, put it in and reboot Jun 19 14:27:01 this file are to be Unix-styled, use mount command after booting Jun 19 14:27:47 awesome thank you so much! Jun 19 14:28:02 you are welcome Jun 19 14:28:29 I'm go to sleep, tomorrow I'm up all night. thanks all ..I'll get it back. Bye~ I will cheer for you ~ Jun 19 14:29:54 * mranostay trolls in Jun 19 14:31:47 trolling trolling trolling Jun 19 14:32:24 Is there anybody with using I2C at BBB experience? Jun 19 14:32:48 too easy Jun 19 14:35:36 I have connected my device via I2C1 to my BBB. The device is up and running. I'm not able to see it invoking "i2cdetect -r -y 1" command Jun 19 14:37:20 I2C1 is disabled, you need to enable it Jun 19 14:37:39 getPinMode() function returns mux=2 for both P9_17 and P9_18, all wires are connectly connected. Jun 19 14:37:48 panto, how to enable it? Jun 19 14:38:14 is that javascript? Jun 19 14:38:36 yes, this function was from web-interface Jun 19 14:39:08 use the virtual cape 'BB-I2C1-00A0.dts' Jun 19 14:40:20 panto, is there any manual how to do it? Jun 19 14:41:19 blog: v Jun 19 14:41:21 http://hipstercircuits.com/ Jun 19 14:41:26 internals https://docs.google.com/document/d/17P54kZkZO_-JtTjrFuVz-Cp_RMMg7GB_8W9JK9sLKfA/pub Jun 19 14:43:52 why isn't there a decent way to search the #beagle logs? Jun 19 14:44:10 google not decent? Jun 19 14:45:03 I meant on the beagle.org irc channel page Jun 19 14:45:41 why reinvent google? Jun 19 14:46:13 Each day of logs is listed, but you have to open each one and control-f to search from that page. Jun 19 14:46:25 GOOGLE Jun 19 14:46:35 how do I tell google to only search #beagle logs? Jun 19 14:46:41 or grep your local logs Jun 19 14:46:59 mastiff: add "JIHAD" to the search string ;) Jun 19 14:47:02 haven't been local logging Jun 19 14:47:31 you know how to do this better than alot of use so tell the best way Jun 19 14:47:51 add site:http://www.beagleboard.org/irclogs/ to your google query Jun 19 14:48:37 get that on the support page and you'll have less noob questions to field Jun 19 15:02:05 panto, I have invoked command echo BB-I2C1 > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr*/slots with no success. i2cdetect doesn't show my device attached. I also used "echo BB-I2C1A1" - the same result. There is no appropriate string at "/sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots" file after reboot. What is wrong here? Jun 19 15:05:04 http://pastebin.com/6SynY6a5 Jun 19 15:05:14 are you sure you have a recent kernel? Jun 19 15:05:30 and of course you haven't provided any logs whatsoever Jun 19 15:05:50 to top that, obviously this wont survive a reboot Jun 19 15:05:57 read the documents Jun 19 15:06:06 understand what you're trying to do first, and try again Jun 19 15:12:26 rince, lather, repeat Jun 19 15:13:26 panto, here is my output: http://pastebin.com/mYNhaiR8 kernel is: 3.8.13 Jun 19 15:14:07 the cape loaded fine Jun 19 15:14:24 are you sure about the pinmuxing? Jun 19 15:14:30 and how are you sure you device works? Jun 19 15:17:51 mux=2 for bith pins as per web-interface. Device works fine: I'm moving 3 wires to RPi - i2cdetect at RPi show all is OK and sofw works OK as well Jun 19 15:18:43 does output sting "unable to select pin group" have special meaning? It's also in your log Jun 19 15:23:22 http://pastebin.com/2GuQXpHA Jun 19 15:23:40 are you sure the i2c settings are the same? Jun 19 15:27:23 yes, output is the same as yours Jun 19 15:28:02 I know that this config works cause it's part of the factory tester Jun 19 15:28:10 what else can be wrong? Jun 19 15:28:42 Not sure Jun 19 15:29:40 Once I'm trying to use my SW, it returns #define EREMOTEIO 121 /* Remote I/O error */ Jun 19 15:30:21 I'm worry about "unable to select pin group" message, is it OK? Jun 19 15:31:44 if the correct values show up at the kernel pin debug files it's OK Jun 19 15:40:21 hi Jun 19 15:40:31 lo Jun 19 15:41:28 i wanna know how can I set pull up resitor on beaglebone black Jun 19 15:41:37 thru Angstrom Jun 19 15:41:53 <_av500_> panto: ^^^ Jun 19 15:42:08 * mranostay smells the magic smoke already Jun 19 15:42:21 _av500_, I'll let you handle it Jun 19 15:42:30 <_av500_> omap_mux? Jun 19 15:43:10 * panto kicks _av500_ Jun 19 15:43:12 * mranostay is sleepy Jun 19 15:43:27 * mranostay figure the tetanus shot in 20 minutes will wake him up Jun 19 15:43:27 * ka6sox is bashful Jun 19 15:43:58 tetanus shot, why? Jun 19 15:44:16 mru, I would think it would be rabies. Jun 19 15:44:35 * mru is pleased to live on an island without rabies Jun 19 15:44:41 mru: been 10 years so my last booster has worn off Jun 19 15:45:57 10 years is a mighty long time for you Jun 19 15:46:15 for anyone Jun 19 15:46:31 no, time speeds up as you get older Jun 19 15:46:40 yeah i've noticed Jun 19 15:47:04 when you get pantos age you need a seatbeat Jun 19 15:50:29 mru: so no rabies at all in the UK? Jun 19 15:50:34 no Jun 19 15:50:54 nor in sweden or norway Jun 19 15:51:19 you are missing out Jun 19 15:51:29 they eradicated it there a long time ago Jun 19 15:51:34 continental europe has it Jun 19 15:52:12 mru: well, apparently that doesn't apply to football/soccer fans Jun 19 15:52:32 they got rid of it by shooting stray dogs Jun 19 15:52:47 I'll let you make the conclusions Jun 19 15:53:14 too bad they didn't get rid of all the trolls Jun 19 15:53:39 uhm, then there'd be nobody left Jun 19 15:54:13 hmm so what is a good time of year to visit Sweden? Jun 19 15:54:29 summer Jun 19 15:54:32 "When it's not all frozen" seems to be as good answer as any Jun 19 16:04:20 jkridner|work: is the bacon demo supposed to 404? Jun 19 16:10:20 koen: hmmm... no. :( Jun 19 16:10:40 http://192.168.7.2/Support/BoneScript/cape_bacon/ doesn't 404 for me. Jun 19 16:11:05 http://beagleboard.org/Support/BoneScript/cape_bacon/ does... can fix. Jun 19 16:11:06 I went to beaglebone.local:80 over ethernet and the bacon demo 404d Jun 19 16:11:37 URL did change to /Support/BoneScript/cape_bacon/. Is that what 404'd? Jun 19 16:12:18 iirc, yes Jun 19 16:12:29 * koen is outside right now, not near beagles Jun 19 16:12:59 * jkridner|work installed the bone101...ipk you built (from the feeds) to test Jun 19 16:17:09 jkridner|work: I seem to recall a similar issue Jun 19 16:17:24 but that was some time last month, and I didn't have time to follow up Jun 19 16:33:33 mranostay, are you gsoc mentoring? Jun 19 16:40:03 <_av500_> mentaling Jun 19 16:43:51 can he do that sober? Jun 19 16:44:48 no comment Jun 19 16:45:25 does he need to be sober? Jun 19 17:26:06 Hi all! I received used beagleboard C4 from a friend and i was trying to power it up. Unfortunately i dont have 4G card at my hands so i cannot flash it directly. When plugging it via USB to my PC the dmesg shows that it finds serial port (ttyACM0) but nothing about ethernet. Did i misunderstood the instructions on http://beagleboard.org/Getting%20Started#update or does my board maybe have some weird image / setup ? Jun 19 17:27:05 The question beeing: when plugging standard beagleboard via usb to pc (on linux) should it make some ethernet device (so i can connect to board with my browser) ? Jun 19 17:27:05 the C4 does not have ethernet Jun 19 17:27:33 Oh so the getting started part where you go to 192.xyz is not applicant on my case Jun 19 17:28:08 (step 3, browse to beagle), right ? Jun 19 17:28:36 those are for beagle bone, not the classic beagle board Jun 19 17:28:55 Oh, my bad for asking silly questions. Thanks! Jun 19 17:29:01 no worries Jun 19 17:30:19 you can configure the otg port to be use network sharing, but the steps are somewhat different Jun 19 17:30:32 I was just about to complain why then the page is there, but the 'beagle board users go here' text on top of the screen, but too small for me apparently :) Jun 19 17:31:11 I would personally suggest getting a dedicated usb-ethernet adapter rather than going through the OTG port Jun 19 17:32:28 or, considering the low price of the bone... get a beaglebone black Jun 19 17:33:03 <- still using C4 era technology here though Jun 19 17:34:28 I actually have one (usb ethernet adapter) but as i have no clue whats the beaglebone running i tought i would start with as simple approach as possible (well yeah, flashing is probably good idea) Jun 19 17:39:48 flashing is an option on C4, I would get an image that you're somewhat happy with on SD as a first step Jun 19 17:40:36 Not good sign i guess: attaching the usb-eth-dongle to the board gave no link-up light, while sticking it to PC made the link-up light light up Jun 19 17:41:15 thurgood: image at http://circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=BeagleBoard are good to use i guess? Jun 19 17:41:53 those are a bit dated but should work Jun 19 17:45:03 Hi all, I'm having an extreme amount of difficulty connecting my Beaglebone Black to my Mac, running OS X 10.6.8 Jun 19 17:45:06 Huh, the file there (Beagle_Revc4_Validation.zip) is 10M only, can that be proper image Jun 19 17:45:29 I've installed and reinstalled my drivers, can anyone help me connect to the Cloud9 IDE service? Jun 19 17:48:08 noob: aren't there any instructions for OSX? Jun 19 17:48:35 tot try updating osx? :) Jun 19 17:48:58 usb ether drivers were in fact for 10.7 and newer if i recall correctly Jun 19 17:48:59 would updating OSX really have an effect? I can do it I suppose... I should anyways Jun 19 17:49:04 compiling fftw on the BBB with NEON support and got this warning: WARNING: No cycle counter found. FFTW will use ESTIMATE mode Jun 19 17:49:29 is there no cycle counter available or do I need to enable it somehow? Jun 19 17:50:30 Guest74142: if the driver is only supported in a current version of OSX.. yes it would make a difference Jun 19 17:50:58 ok thanks guys, sorry i'm kind of...special...when it comes to computers Jun 19 17:52:25 jkridner: I just updated by BlackBone and I now get Jun 19 17:52:29 Version = 0A5A BoneScript version = 0.2.2 ***FAIL*** digitalRead(low) returned {"value":1,"seq":13} Jun 19 17:52:46 Looks like it's working, but maybe I need to wire something. Jun 19 18:00:57 hello Jun 19 18:01:02 Hi Jun 19 18:01:31 question: I just ran opkg update and opkg upgrade on my new BBB Jun 19 18:01:52 upon reboot, I only get to the login: command line screen Jun 19 18:02:01 what is the command to start the gui? Jun 19 18:05:48 may: yes, you need some wiring per the diagram Jun 19 18:06:17 I just wired it up, It PASSed! Jun 19 18:06:43 thurgood: did you have any suggestion where to head for the C4 images? And sorry for still asking: can the 10M image (.zip) from http://circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=BeagleBoard be proper? Kernel and all? Jun 19 18:06:52 However, if I hit RESTORE and then RUN I get: Exception: SyntaxError: Unexpected token ; Jun 19 18:06:56 may: sweet. you can look at the code to see what all it tests. Jun 19 18:07:08 The RESTORE have a bug in it. Jun 19 18:09:19 susuu: I don't know what is on the validation image... 10MB seems pretty minimal Jun 19 18:09:36 Indeed .. Jun 19 18:10:36 jkridner|work: I have the BBB driving a servo with a couple of IR detectors mounted on it. Jun 19 18:10:40 thurgood: may i ask what image are you running? Self brewed? Jun 19 18:10:51 Soon I should be able to track flashlight. Jun 19 18:11:10 cool. written in C? Jun 19 18:11:23 somewhat self made, with the angstrom/OE toolchain Jun 19 18:11:54 so it is angstrom with modifications essentially Jun 19 18:12:54 how did y'all get started programming? I just got a beaglebone Black and i'm tasked with programming it for some data acquisition and I have no idea where to start.. Jun 19 18:13:37 thurgood: do you know if the image from http://beagleboard.org/latest-images (the lowest one i guess) should work? Jun 19 18:13:47 susuu: rather than the validation image you can head over to http://downloads.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/ and grab the needed files, for a more up to date/full featured build Jun 19 18:13:59 thanks! Jun 19 18:14:43 there are other distros out there that will work too, but I only have experience using angstrom on the beagle lineup Jun 19 18:15:55 yeah i was just checking could i get ubuntu running on that board but seems like most of the instructions are for beaglebone black (or i am lost in wrong place) Jun 19 18:15:58 Guest74142: depending on the typeof acquisition, I would start prototyping on a linux desktop as much as possible Jun 19 18:16:33 I think i will be rather happy with the stock image at least for the start :) Jun 19 18:16:59 there are older ubuntu images that workon the bb classic dunno how recent the support is for that Jun 19 18:18:10 ok thurgood thanks, will do! just seems like an endless stream of stuff to do Jun 19 18:22:28 thurgood, thanks for advices and your time! I'll be back later (i guess..) with new troubles after i have aquired 4G SD card for flashing the device Jun 19 18:24:07 anyone know how to start gui in Angstrom? Jun 19 18:26:24 should autostart if it's installed Jun 19 18:41:36 * mranostay is back Jun 19 18:41:46 no allergic reaction it seems Jun 19 18:42:34 for some reason after running update and upgrade, auto gui start has been disabled Jun 19 18:43:17 seems to me upgrade should be disabled Jun 19 18:43:41 one does not simpley Jun 19 18:44:15 what do you mean "upgrade should be disabled"? Jun 19 18:44:41 upgrade is the command to upgrade installed packages, correct? Jun 19 18:55:08 rfields: I have never known opkg upgrade for Beagle to work. Just my experience. Jun 19 18:55:46 or should I add, work as expected.. Jun 19 18:59:11 mranostay, lol Jun 19 19:00:07 I don't think I've ever opkg upgraded. I just cross compile everything, most of what I need isn't opkg'd Jun 19 19:01:04 mranostay, one simpley cross compiles Jun 19 19:01:26 time to go Jun 19 19:01:30 g'night all Jun 19 19:01:40 panto, good night Jun 19 19:11:44 howdy felipebalbi Jun 19 19:25:14 howdy Jun 19 19:26:45 hi, i'm trying to use the github.com/beagleboard kernel to boot my beagle-xm rev C. when i do a device tree boot, i get the following errors when attempting to detect the mmc controller and the boot hangs waiting for root device. see https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5817227 for full log. Jun 19 19:27:44 btw. this is with the omap2plus defconfig. Jun 19 19:39:10 spenser309: do you have a rootfs on your second SD partition? Jun 19 19:39:33 thurgood: yes. it's there if i use a pure mainline kernel the mmc works. Jun 19 19:43:52 looks like it's having i2c issues as well Jun 19 19:45:00 thurgood: what would cause something of this nature? Jun 19 19:45:21 thurgood: and thanks for taking the time to look at this. Jun 19 19:46:24 additional info. this is the 3.8 branch of the github.com/beagleboard/kernel . Jun 19 19:49:06 is there some kind of bug tracker for BBB? Jun 19 19:53:49 Guest39482: bugs.elinux.org is setup to follow bugs if you have something to report Jun 19 19:54:14 Guest39482: pretty much all the major bugs are being addressed via the irc channel, but it is always good to track them Jun 19 19:55:46 we troll the bugs into oblivion Jun 19 19:56:14 I'm not able to utilize I2C1 and would like to know how to solve it. I turned virtual cape BB-I2C1 on, kernel log pinmux-pins show all is OK (pin 86 and pin 87 funcs are pinmux_bb_i2c1_pins) but invokinf write() from c program return errno 121 (Remote I/O error) Jun 19 19:57:35 wire connection is double checked, all is correct, the same device works OK on Mini210 platform Jun 19 19:57:39 hi Jun 19 19:57:57 how to turn-off the usb network Jun 19 19:58:14 so I may use a wifi usb? Jun 19 20:00:45 prpplague: thanks for the link but there is not so many bugs there. I would like to read bugs rather then write one more, I'm pretty sure my issue should be already fixed Jun 19 20:01:12 Guest39482: feel free to post your issue here or on the mailing list Jun 19 20:02:34 prpplague: I described it here in previous post, do you have any ideas how to fix it? or how to debug it? Jun 19 20:03:03 Guest39482: sorry i did not see your post Jun 19 20:03:39 Rickta59: do i have all your shipping info? Jun 19 20:03:43 prpplague: I'm not able to utilize I2C1 and would like to know how to solve it. I turned virtual cape BB-I2C1 on, kernel log pinmux-pins show all is OK (pin 86 and pin 87 funcs are pinmux_bb_i2c1_pins) but invokinf write() from c program return errno 121 (Remote I/O error) Jun 19 20:04:13 Guest39482: could that be an 'electrical' error? do you have an oscilloscope to look at WTF is going on at the pins? Jun 19 20:04:17 Has any one used a Beaglebone Black in an industrial enviourment Jun 19 20:07:02 kfoltman: I have it at office as well as digital analyzer based on stellaris launchpad, I was going to check it tomorrow morning. Jun 19 20:08:12 now I'm wonder if this problem is well-known and there is some kind of fix for it Jun 19 20:08:15 Guest39482: simple obvious question, you have pullup resistors on I2C1's lines right? Jun 19 20:14:08 Spirilis: At the BBB side pullup register are pulled down as per web-interface. Not sure at the device side, it's possible there are no pullup registers there Jun 19 20:14:46 Guest39482: huh? you need to have exactly one pullup resistor at whatever side? Jun 19 20:14:56 Guest39482: k, I2C needs strong pullup resistors to function, and the BBB side should have pullup/down resistors either disabled or set to pull-up. 4.7Kohm is the typical standard Jun 19 20:16:21 Guest39482: and those resistors should be pulled up to Vcc (3.3V) Jun 19 20:16:48 I didn't try I2C on BBB, but on STM32 I2C didn't want to work until I specifically set the SDA pin to open drain, pull up, and SCL to push-pull, also pull-up (AFAIR) Jun 19 20:17:03 yeah Jun 19 20:17:11 different chips might need different settings, dunno Jun 19 20:17:24 but I2C lines are always driven open-drain Jun 19 20:18:01 with single master, clock is always dictated by master, isn't it? Jun 19 20:18:06 yeah Jun 19 20:18:20 however I think the slave is allowed to "clock stretch" Jun 19 20:18:21 so I presume it could work either OD or PP? Jun 19 20:18:28 oh Jun 19 20:18:29 so I guess it's not always dictated by the master Jun 19 20:18:29 true Jun 19 20:18:52 clock stretch = pulling to GND to signal "not ready" right? Jun 19 20:18:56 yup Jun 19 20:19:12 so if the master were driving SCL high via PFET instead of pullup resistor you could have a temporary short Jun 19 20:19:41 is there a way to change pullup via console? Jun 19 20:21:05 probably, using devicetree file Jun 19 20:21:23 i.e. via the virtual cape's devicetree config Jun 19 20:21:51 if it's got a pulldown enabled though you can probably overwhelm it with a strong enough pullup (4.7K might be good enough, or maybe 2.2K if you need to put some grunt in it) Jun 19 20:22:02 it will just use a little more power than you intended Jun 19 20:23:20 ok thank you awfully, guys. hope it will fix the problem. Jun 19 20:24:07 any way, oscilloscope and digital analyzer will definitely help Jun 19 20:29:43 Does ubuntu run well on BBB? Jun 19 20:30:24 does ubuntu run well? Jun 19 20:30:32 * mranostay knew that was coming Jun 19 20:31:01 "At the time of release, not all of these distributions support BeagleBone Black, but should soon." Jun 19 20:31:24 "Angstrom Distribution, Ubuntu, Debian, ..." Jun 19 20:31:47 Is Ubuntu now supported by BBB? Jun 19 20:32:52 wrong question Jun 19 20:32:59 people are running it.. so I suppose the bbb is supported on ubuntu now Jun 19 20:33:58 no personal experience so I can't speak to how well Jun 19 20:41:53 koen: I confirmed cape_bacon link works on the 6.19 image. Jun 19 20:42:09 I do have the analogWrite settings backwards though. :( Jun 19 21:03:06 <_av500_> Sawny: there are ubuntu builds that support the BBB Jun 19 21:03:19 <_av500_> no hardware was changed on the BBB to make ubuntu supported Jun 19 21:11:39 _av500_: you mean I soldered those extra capacitators on for nothing? :( Jun 19 21:12:12 heh extra caps? Jun 19 21:12:26 <_av500_> kblin: you need them for samba, no? Jun 19 21:13:31 mranostay: soldering extra caps on to solve problems helped in the C series beagles, didn't it? ;) Jun 19 21:13:43 <_av500_> for some yes Jun 19 21:14:27 on the C3 it sometimes made ehci work Jun 19 21:15:03 arguably, for the B the critical step to get USB to work properly was to get the right driver fixes into the kernel :) Jun 19 21:15:58 mru: helped to reduce the reboots from once every few days to once every few weeks, yes Jun 19 21:16:11 on some of them Jun 19 21:16:14 or for some uses Jun 19 21:16:18 didn't do anything for me Jun 19 21:16:36 and the Bx were much more broken Jun 19 21:17:38 mru: everything is broken Jun 19 21:17:56 yes Jun 19 21:25:44 Anyone wanna try to help me with a VNC server question? Jun 19 21:26:47 sure Jun 19 21:28:11 ok. When I open a VNC session from my windows machine, I get a "Automattically Login in..." display, and it just sits there. how can I disable this? Jun 19 21:28:24 ack.. Jun 19 21:28:35 i dont vnc from win* Jun 19 21:28:44 sorry i wont be much help Jun 19 21:28:59 its probably in the connection prefs somewhere Jun 19 21:29:34 i have included a line in my gdm.conf fiile setting AutomaticLoginEnable=false, but this was no help. Jun 19 21:30:06 okblack: its probably your client doing it..not the vnc server Jun 19 21:30:16 what vnc client are you using? Jun 19 21:30:17 hm.. hadn't considered this.... Jun 19 21:30:22 UltraVNC Jun 19 21:30:49 i would make sure its not set there somewhere Jun 19 21:31:02 maybe I should try another client? i don't see any settings in UltraVNC that appear useful. Jun 19 21:32:23 which vnc server.. Jun 19 21:32:43 some do have an autologin server setting too Jun 19 21:32:47 x11vnc Jun 19 21:33:19 hmm Jun 19 21:33:55 not sure tbh Jun 19 21:35:00 ok.. thanks anyway. Jun 19 21:35:11 BTW, i just installed tightvnc client...does the same thing Jun 19 21:35:28 so at this point it must be a sever config issue. Jun 19 21:35:40 yeah sounds like it Jun 19 21:35:49 good luck though Jun 19 21:35:54 thanks. Jun 19 22:18:32 mru: that is a damn catchy song Jun 19 22:18:45 which? Jun 19 22:20:17 everything is broken Jun 19 22:48:12 hello. i'm having a bit of trouble with my beaglebone-black. i'm running the ubuntu kernel and finding a problem with the ethernet. when i boot it up and plug in a cable, DHCP works the first time. gets an IP and i can ping it Jun 19 22:48:29 I'm unable to ssh into my BBB getting a 'ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host'. I see other people getting the same error here: http://hipstercircuits.com/ and here https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/beagleboard/Ya2qE4repSY Jun 19 22:49:00 but if i do "sudo ifconfig eth0 down" then up again, no more worky. dhclient no longer works at all to get a new IP. same thing if i unplug cable for ~20 seconds then plug it back in Jun 19 22:49:18 I think it has to do with a corrupted dropbear key file? But how do I get into the machine in the first place to get dropbear into a good state? Jun 19 22:49:19 dmesg though shows phy detecting the link just fine. anyone else seen this problem? Jun 19 22:51:12 ditch dropbear and use openssh instead Jun 19 22:51:52 tesla_: do you have a serial connection you could try? get a prompt that way and then delete the /etc/dropbear/dropbear_rsa_host_key file and restart dropbear Jun 19 22:52:16 or get openssh like mru said Jun 19 22:52:52 the bone is more than capable of running openssh Jun 19 22:52:56 ah, maybe. I have it plugged in via USB. Can I get a serial connection through that? And how do I install openssh on it without first sshing into it? Jun 19 22:53:01 so there's no reason to torture yourself with dropbear Jun 19 22:53:13 and it's a black, not a bone Jun 19 22:53:22 that's also a bone Jun 19 22:53:33 ah, sorry "beagble bone" black Jun 19 22:54:02 I'm happy to use whatever... Jun 19 22:54:09 but right now I can't get a command prompt on it Jun 19 22:54:15 Or at least I don't know how Jun 19 22:54:23 but yea, openssh might work better. of course, you need to get in somehow to even do that. i don't think it does serial over USB anymore. you'll need to hook up an FTDI cable or something to that J1 header Jun 19 22:55:34 Boot from a SD card with the debian demo image in it, mount the filesystem, fix the dropbear issue, and boot using onboard. Jun 19 22:55:42 it's 3.3V "rs232" Jun 19 22:55:47 any level shifter will work Jun 19 22:55:51 doesn't have to be ftdi Jun 19 22:55:54 that is if you are using the onboard for ubuntu right now. Jun 19 22:56:50 yea, hence the 'or something', most people i know have FTDI ones sitting around Jun 19 22:57:20 I happen to have piles of level shifters, mostly maxim Jun 19 22:57:57 I have an ftdi cable around somewhere, but at home. I'll get to this later tonight. Thanks for the help, I might be on later if I run into more problems Jun 19 22:58:07 piles? Jun 19 22:58:15 ok, one small pile Jun 19 22:58:30 * ds2 pictures something moved around with a JCB Jun 19 22:58:45 (or Cat/John Deer) Jun 19 22:58:56 anyone else run into ethernet issues on the black? Jun 19 23:03:49 I'm running debian on it, and haven't had any issues. Running multiple static IP's and a .q vlan stuff. Jun 19 23:05:48 cleb: cool, thanks. using its eth0 SMSC port? for some reason my DHCP only works once on boot. if i bring the interface down then up again (or unplug cable and replug) DHCP no longer discovers anything. i wonder if somehow the usb0 is affecting it? but seems unlikely Jun 19 23:06:34 I think the warm boot ethernet isa known issue Jun 19 23:06:57 thurgood: ah, thanks. is it a software one? Jun 19 23:07:25 dunno, I didn't pay too much attention to it Jun 19 23:07:52 it's a bug in the simulation we call the universe Jun 19 23:08:02 54? Jun 19 23:08:25 ok, thanks. i'll read more about it if i can find info Jun 19 23:09:00 nemik: I stopped unsing Ubuntu a while ago, but doesn't it insist on running a manager? Jun 19 23:09:45 seems to me I've seen starange interactions between the user-friendly smartass and ifup/down - it doesn't wnat them managed that way? Jun 19 23:11:00 martinm: i suppose, but the reason i did that is just to simulat cable plugging in/out. that's my real problem is if i unplug the cable for 30+ seconds, and plug it back in, ethernet never comes back up Jun 19 23:11:07 does dmseg tell you anything when you redo replug? Jun 19 23:11:48 * martinm has unplugged the ethernet.... Jun 19 23:12:06 thurgood: yea, but it all seems good. phy says link is down on unplug, then up again on re-plug. seems fine Jun 19 23:12:35 but if i try a 'dhclient -v eth0' it just never receives anything Jun 19 23:12:54 ...plugged it back in, gave it a few seconds to reacquire, and ssh'd in. no problem. running stock Angstrom image... Jun 19 23:13:39 martinm: thank you. i'll try the stock angstrom image then. ubuntu isn't having it Jun 19 23:13:58 Ubuntu is, alas, a big pile of fail these days IMO&E Jun 19 23:14:21 nemik: built in ethernet, yes. Jun 19 23:14:26 nemik: are you using the original angstrom image or have you patched? Jun 19 23:14:35 martinm: they've been clearly aiming for that since a long time Jun 19 23:15:05 thurgood: i'm using RobertCNelson's ubuntu rootfs and kernel i built from his 'linux-dev' repo Jun 19 23:15:12 I haven't had any issues with Debian Jun 19 23:15:22 ah Jun 19 23:16:29 A5A rev. i'll give Angstrom a go and see what happens i guess Jun 19 23:17:04 but i like apt-get a lot and the armhf-ness, though that second one might not matter so much anymore Jun 19 23:18:56 * martinm goes afk to roast some coffee Jun 19 23:19:08 sounds ambitious Jun 19 23:20:32 welp, angstrom works perfectly! goddamnit Jun 19 23:39:56 nemik: run Debian if you like apt :) Jun 19 23:40:58 I had issues with the net install not supporting networking, so I installed the demo image on a flashcard, downloaded the compressed debian image while booted in the demo image, and wrote it to the onboard flash, removed the SD with the demo image, and all set! Jun 19 23:50:14 I am struggling to run ti sgx modules on the BBB, maybe somebody here tried and succeeded, please any tips? Jun 19 23:51:08 Here is the second part of my "XNU on BeagleBoard" saga documented: http://crna.cc/b/7 Jun 19 23:51:20 I got it working. Jun 19 23:52:14 congrats Jun 20 00:04:39 \o/ Jun 20 00:04:56 hello, my beaglebone prints a lot of 'C's on the serial minicom output when i start it up, the thing doesn't show the cloud dashboard anymore Jun 20 00:07:10 no SD card Jun 20 00:09:18 it's a beaglebone black Jun 20 00:10:05 * mranostay spies a joelagnel Jun 20 00:11:43 Hello, since the PRUs are proving so useful for interfacing hardware, I'm hitting a limit since I'd like to transfer more than 8k of data at a time. The PRUs can access any part of the memory map. However, the linux side needs to be able to mmap to see it, so I can't arbitrarily write to anywhere unless the memory is allocated on startup. Does anyone know which file may contain this setting if Jun 20 00:11:43 it is part of the kernel code? Or can I do this via some other file/setting without a kernel compile? Jun 20 00:24:32 alguien: must have wiped out the bootloader on the eMMC Jun 20 00:25:39 Does that to me too, initially, but once the kernel loads I think it goes fone from there Jun 20 00:26:01 granted, im using a msp430 @ 9600 BUAD Jun 20 00:26:18 err msp430 Launchpad* Jun 20 00:52:41 pinctrl <--- Angstrom only ? Jun 20 00:54:10 m_billybob, it's a kernel thing Jun 20 00:54:22 how often are there firmware updates for bb black? Jun 20 00:54:36 Tenkawa, firmware updates or new images? Jun 20 00:54:41 if any so far at all Jun 20 00:54:57 bradfa_: firmware(boot code/low level) Jun 20 00:54:58 bradfa, thanks for the answer. SO hmm sorry for the ignorance, is this a module i need to compile into my kernel ? Jun 20 00:55:10 i build my own os builds Jun 20 00:55:18 bradfa, im runing wheezy onmy bbb Jun 20 00:55:32 * Tenkawa likes slackware on his bbb Jun 20 00:55:50 yeah im liking debian myself Jun 20 00:55:52 Tenkawa, boot is handled by u-boot, if you want to run what's in git it's updated a few times a day Jun 20 00:56:34 m_billybob, read the first few results -> https://www.google.com/search?q=pinctrl Jun 20 00:56:41 bradfa_: oh that often? intriguing Jun 20 00:56:52 Tenkawa, u-boot is under active development by a large community Jun 20 00:57:01 bradfa_: good point Jun 20 00:57:03 there's a release about once every 3 months Jun 20 00:57:23 Tenkawa, koen's usually working on kernel support every day, see the github Jun 20 00:57:31 and use the patch application scripts Jun 20 00:57:31 bradfa, you're sh**ing me lol i just *knew* google would turn up nothing. thanks :) Jun 20 00:57:41 seems i "knew" wrong. no surprise there though Jun 20 00:57:45 3.9 in scope yet for the kernel? Jun 20 00:58:05 m_billybob, google is everyone's friend :) Jun 20 00:58:38 bradfa, yeah except if you're attempting PXE boot, whcih ive been after for the last week or so Jun 20 00:58:44 Tenkawa, 3.9 is done, afaik, 3.10 might get some more am335x support but that's already in rc6 Jun 20 00:58:53 3.8.13 is ok although i'd like to get all my devices to 3.9 (rpi's are there) Jun 20 00:58:57 some information out there, but . . .yeah i may be able to figure it out Jun 20 00:59:02 bradfa_: nice Jun 20 00:59:49 Tenkawa, I'm talking about mainline (Linus' tree) support, not what koen does with his tree / patches Jun 20 00:59:58 bradfa_: ahh Jun 20 01:00:34 nfs root seems to work fine although im loosing dns lease for some reason Jun 20 01:00:45 see https://github.com/beagleboard for info on the softwares including scripts for building koen's "evil vendor kernels" Jun 20 01:01:02 m_billybob, dns doesn't do leases Jun 20 01:01:05 dhcp does Jun 20 01:01:09 is that what you mean? Jun 20 01:01:35 bradfa, idk im not a networking expert. my gateway goes 0.0.0.0 Jun 20 01:01:40 not sure what that implies. Jun 20 01:01:52 m_billybob, probably that you'll have poor network abilities :) Jun 20 01:01:57 but im on the network and able to get root over nfs Jun 20 01:02:14 m_billybob, either set a static ip or make the leases longer on the dhcp server Jun 20 01:02:22 no, im not a bad person at networking just dont know all the "expert" stuff Jun 20 01:02:52 m_billybob, I meant your board, not you personally Jun 20 01:03:02 ah ok Jun 20 01:03:10 and dhcp isnt working Jun 20 01:03:26 ipaddress=dhcp no boot Jun 20 01:03:32 mranostay, come help hold down the fort! Jun 20 01:03:50 m_billybob, do other things on your network get dhcp addresses ok? Jun 20 01:03:51 one solid usr led lit solid Jun 20 01:03:59 yeah Jun 20 01:04:11 m_billybob, what's output from the serial port? Jun 20 01:04:13 its a "cheap" dsl modem / router Jun 20 01:04:36 idk im using an msp430 launcpad for serial debug, so i dont keep it running all the time Jun 20 01:04:54 give me a few Jun 20 01:05:16 m_billybob: /win 3 Jun 20 01:05:21 oops srry Jun 20 01:07:29 rootpath= Jun 20 01:07:45 greeting=hello Jun 20 01:09:07 yeah so i have a static ip set in /etc/network/interfaces so thats probably the problem Jun 20 01:09:07 nsa=friends Jun 20 01:09:36 m_billybob, if the kernel is failing to get a dhcp address at boot time, before init is started, what's in /etc/network/interfaces doesn't matter Jun 20 01:10:50 bradfa, yeah im kind of new to this, it picked up an IP at boot, but im thinking since uboot == dhcp and debian are set differently our router doesnt like the quick IP address changes Jun 20 01:11:09 so i guess il hard code the gateway address in uEnv.txt Jun 20 01:11:14 give that a shot Jun 20 01:12:12 but . . . for now, i need to do some other stuff, then ill have to pop out the uSD and write this on my debian suppport box since I no longer have access to my bbb via serial or ssh Jun 20 01:12:36 u-boot will do dhcp, kernel can then do dhcp, then userspace can too, dhcp server shouldn't care it should just keep sending back the same address Jun 20 01:13:11 if you can get serial port output, that's invaluable for debugging this kind of situation Jun 20 01:13:12 some dhcp servers take the 'should' in the dhcp spec as, 'who cares' Jun 20 01:13:27 im unsure whats going on othe than rootfs ="" now i can only assume its an ip address conflict between the two files Jun 20 01:13:27 Russ, those dhcp servers need to die in a fire Jun 20 01:13:43 so now im gettign a kernel panic at boot Jun 20 01:13:54 isc-dhcp has no issue with rapid requests like would be seen Jun 20 01:13:57 the only thing i have changed is static ip to dhcp Jun 20 01:14:06 you can pass static ip options to the kernel from u-boot Jun 20 01:14:09 m_billybob, go back to static if it was working for now Jun 20 01:14:14 with the static ip options being those obtained via dhcp Jun 20 01:15:02 this router == one of those "cheap" ISP provided modem / router combo's it seem to loose its brains over time Jun 20 01:15:13 seems to be a common issue with a lot of these cheaper routers Jun 20 01:16:38 unlisted device unknown 192.168.254.2 Jun 20 01:18:10 ah well need to take care of some stuff ill iron it out in an hour or so Jun 20 01:18:34 maybe gateway= will fix my DNS issues Jun 20 01:19:10 well more correctly my gateway issues Jun 20 01:35:46 pffft Jun 20 01:36:03 root@arm:~# ping google.com Jun 20 01:36:03 connect: Network is unreachable Jun 20 01:58:52 so yeah if i manually add a router to the gateway i get my gateway back, no idea whats going on Jun 20 01:58:59 add a route* Jun 20 02:06:55 hello everyone, I have met a problem, I run an Android on the beaglebone, I want to use the uart to commnunicate with the other device, but how can I do it, because the UART is unvailable, please help me!!! Jun 20 02:09:12 when i get the authority of the UART by adb shell, chmod 777 /dev/ttyGS*, but the UARTs still didn't work! Jun 20 02:09:52 anyone who can give me an advise please Jun 20 02:10:38 i have look up all the information from the google, but nothing find Jun 20 02:11:53 the errors from the DDMS is "01-02 00:00:24.580: E/uim-sysfs(679): uim:BT/FM/GPS would be unavailable on system" **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jun 20 02:59:59 2013