**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jul 20 02:59:58 2013 Jul 20 03:03:33 mrpackethead: does what? Jul 20 03:04:04 wears a tie Jul 20 03:05:25 heh i don't even own one Jul 20 03:06:22 oh, i thought that intel was old school Jul 20 03:06:46 maybe its TI.e Jul 20 03:07:01 you are probably thinking IBM Jul 20 03:07:24 oh yeah. Jul 20 03:07:26 and Unisys Jul 20 03:07:34 Unisys was tie-central Jul 20 03:07:40 thats why i hid at the datacneter Jul 20 03:08:02 and some times went to the office. Jul 20 03:08:08 "if i had to" Jul 20 03:08:24 "suits" Jul 20 03:08:45 What does IBM stand for? Jul 20 03:08:52 I'm bloddy mad? Jul 20 03:09:03 international business machines Jul 20 03:10:42 prpplague: hey bald god! Jul 20 03:10:48 i just tryed somethign dumb Jul 20 03:11:03 tryed to configure the machien with the bootflash image Jul 20 03:11:05 mranostay: bald yes... god maybe Jul 20 03:30:46 that was dumb Jul 20 03:32:39 prpplague: i swear the fedex here is lazy they don't even live a door tag Jul 20 03:32:42 *leave Jul 20 03:32:51 hehe Jul 20 03:32:55 you kinda have to know the front office has a package Jul 20 03:33:04 mranostay: you miss getting your package? Jul 20 03:33:37 it is in the front office i'll get in the morning Jul 20 03:33:42 ahh ok Jul 20 03:33:59 mranostay: we are getting pushed to come up with a bunch of lures asap Jul 20 03:34:28 * mranostay supposes any lure designs he does are property of Intel :P Jul 20 03:35:10 * mranostay offfsets a hour of biking with a beer or three Jul 20 03:36:56 * mranostay loads up the CFP Jul 20 03:38:49 prpplague: if any of my ELCE talks get accepted it will be the one i have to do work on :) Jul 20 03:39:09 mranostay: hehe Jul 20 03:41:37 prpplague: panto has been a busy bee Jul 20 03:42:25 mranostay: oh? Jul 20 03:42:54 see his G+? Jul 20 03:43:34 guess not Jul 20 03:50:41 mranostay: i keep going back and forth on submitting something but i always end up saying no Jul 20 03:50:57 too much uncertainty right now Jul 20 03:51:37 heh i need a third one Jul 20 03:52:13 prpplague, I said NO too. Jul 20 03:52:42 the 1-3 trips north in the next two months sealed it :( Jul 20 03:54:41 mrpackethead, whats a Bob? Jul 20 05:07:41 can a beaglebon be used to control a three phase dc motor? Jul 20 05:07:46 beaglebone Jul 20 05:10:22 maybe with the pru? Jul 20 05:10:35 interesting use case Jul 20 05:11:41 beaglebone has 8 pulse wave modulation devices or ports Jul 20 05:12:00 then add a transistor to that Jul 20 05:12:19 but i don't totally understand how 3 phase motors work Jul 20 05:29:16 ashes: you know how 3 phase power works right? Jul 20 05:40:21 mranostay: a little bit. there are 3 magnets that operate in sync to turn the motor Jul 20 06:00:45 folks Jul 20 06:00:59 What's the current status of wifi support for the black ? Jul 20 06:03:43 it doesn't have a wifi chip of its own. so it's connect a wifi dongle or chip and load the apropriate kernel module Jul 20 06:04:11 oh you don't need to use a board for wifi support ? Jul 20 06:04:34 I guess it's called a cape Jul 20 06:05:36 you can use a cape, you can use a usb dongle. whatever floats your boat Jul 20 06:06:14 is there a list of compatible dongles ? Jul 20 06:08:17 oh boy Jul 20 06:08:44 * mranostay heads to bar before commenting on that Jul 20 06:09:36 mdp, ping. I converted your edma driver to accept unlimited sg's Jul 20 06:10:46 also what's the standard way of reducing voltages so that the ADC can deal with it safely ? Jul 20 06:13:44 bhuey: voltage divisor network for one Jul 20 06:14:02 with 1.75V zener to be safe Jul 20 06:14:42 bhuey, its a cape Jul 20 06:14:55 and there aren't any "wifi capes" so use an approved USB dongle Jul 20 06:17:09 mranostay: what's what I thought as well Jul 20 06:17:19 ka6sox: jesus, what the hell are you doing here ? Jul 20 06:17:39 where's the list of compatible dongles ? Jul 20 06:17:42 * bhuey googles Jul 20 06:18:03 got it Jul 20 06:18:20 ka6sox: yeah thinking about using this thing for an automotive application Jul 20 06:22:41 ka6sox: wifi capes aren't for the black right ? Jul 20 07:07:50 bhuey, how racist! Jul 20 07:07:59 mranostay, what shall we do with him? Jul 20 07:08:33 prpplague, I received my package today :) Jul 20 07:08:55 free stuffz? Jul 20 07:16:56 * froggyman notes that beaglebone capes are much harder to insert/remove in comparison to arduino shields Jul 20 07:28:16 bent pins $&&$$$ Jul 20 08:16:10 mdp, ping Jul 20 08:18:30 mdp, I did run into an issue where the events are missed due limitations of the EDMA controller Jul 20 08:19:05 re: unlimited scatter gather lists Jul 20 08:19:52 there's no way to say "hey hold on, I'll reprogram slots and then you can continue" Jul 20 08:20:25 the events get absorbed by the "dummy" param slot, and that for some reason also de-asserts the DMA req from the MMC controller Jul 20 08:20:29 so MMC stalls completely Jul 20 08:22:48 I do have a possible trick up my sleeve for that though, let's see. do ping when around Jul 20 09:40:33 a wonderfull, JIHADy, post-friday everyone! Jul 20 11:12:34 Following http://hipstercircuits.com/enable-serialuarttty-on-beaglebone-black/ would the commands for enabling uart1 be the same but with ttyO1? Jul 20 11:13:27 Also, what do I need to change in enable-uart5.dts ? Jul 20 12:34:37 join #kicad Jul 20 12:34:48 oops Jul 20 12:49:26 these eu trains are pretty good Jul 20 13:10:03 <_SY_> hello Jul 20 13:13:40 <_SY_> anyone here today? Jul 20 15:02:12 hi all!!! Jul 20 15:02:41 i'm using Linux arm 3.8.13-bone21 on a BBBlack... Jul 20 15:03:03 ubuntu and i can't change the network Jul 20 15:03:39 even tried to comment out usb0... save... reboot... and is still there... editing /etc/network/interfaces Jul 20 15:03:58 try #ubuntu-arm Jul 20 15:04:09 usb0 and ether and wifi can work in ubuntu thoguh Jul 20 15:04:19 is there another way to change the network interfaces config? Jul 20 15:04:34 i needed to add bnep0 for bluetooth Jul 20 15:06:30 you can do it manually Jul 20 15:06:37 simply ifconfig up Jul 20 15:16:24 yes...!!! tried sudo brctl addbr pan0 and got an interface... then did what you told... and got it with the ip i've needed... Jul 20 15:16:32 thanks maxinux Jul 20 15:45:49 centraldetaxis: not the ideal way, you can make it work in the network/interfaces file... but at least you got up this way Jul 20 15:53:05 Any general advice on interfacing a beagleboard with a Xilinx FPGA? Jul 20 15:53:25 * bart416 doesn't like to reinvent the wheel. Jul 20 15:54:30 bart416: get a zynq :D Jul 20 15:54:42 afaik there is a fpga cape in the works Jul 20 15:54:53 Neither are fast enough :P Jul 20 15:55:17 All the boards that are fast enough are outside my budget. Jul 20 15:55:27 And I already designed the FPGA board so yah... Jul 20 15:56:02 Only thing I can still mess around with are the connectors. Jul 20 15:58:05 well, check how the fpga cape does it Jul 20 16:02:32 GPMC as I expected heh Jul 20 16:03:22 bart416, there is a FPGA cape that works Jul 20 16:03:26 and it uses GPMC Jul 20 16:03:44 ka6sox, well none of the existing solutions that are quick enough are sufficient. Jul 20 16:03:53 Additionally none have any real onboard RAM worth speaking off. Jul 20 16:04:35 okay then its an open source project and you can make your own. Jul 20 16:04:41 or buy a zynq Jul 20 16:05:40 ka6sox, my board costs me about $60 in parts ;) Jul 20 16:05:44 (PCB included) Jul 20 16:07:08 And the necessary data converters, hooked up with SMA launchers to go to the RF board. Jul 20 16:17:15 ka6sox, my advice is: Never do anything DSP related and then use an ARM processor to agregate all the data before sending it off. It's madness: p Jul 20 17:10:49 glad I didn't see this before: bart416 has quit (Quit: The leading global provider of ignorance has left the channel!) Jul 20 17:11:45 What a productive morning :D Jul 20 17:12:45 bart416: What FPGA did you wind up using? Jul 20 17:13:06 oh, he left Jul 20 17:14:03 jmoyerman, ya...he is gone Jul 20 17:15:06 Knocking things out left and right in my to-do list... Making great progress Jul 20 17:18:00 excellent Jul 20 17:18:11 is this for a FOSS or other project? Jul 20 17:24:43 ka6sox: umm. yes and no Jul 20 17:25:05 oooookay Jul 20 17:25:21 :D Jul 20 17:26:21 I saw that you were upstreaming back to emeb some things ...thanks! this helps all of us :) Jul 20 17:26:41 I've been trying to push back what I can Jul 20 17:27:11 fortunately working for someone that likes FOSS helps Jul 20 17:28:13 excellent... Jul 20 18:25:46 hey everybody Jul 20 18:25:56 does anyone run kali linux on the beaglebone? Jul 20 18:30:33 wth is that? Jul 20 18:32:31 debian linux with metasploit preinstalled Jul 20 18:32:42 essentially Jul 20 18:33:03 uh Jul 20 18:38:53 yeah Jul 20 18:38:57 pentest distro Jul 20 18:42:24 I saw something about pentesting on the mailing list but being in the US I kind of tend to shy away from this Jul 20 19:31:14 Hi Jul 20 19:32:03 i'm looking for some information to make decision on Arduino/BeagleBone black. Jul 20 19:32:21 anyone information would be great. Jul 20 19:32:40 you can run arduino programs on BBB Jul 20 19:32:45 so choice is simple :-D Jul 20 19:33:11 sweet Jul 20 19:33:14 http://beagleboard.org/project/userspace-arduino/ Jul 20 19:33:27 no idea how well it works, Ive just seen some google+ posts on it Jul 20 19:34:01 do we have framework with BBB for hardware interface.. Jul 20 19:34:15 like stepper motor.. etc Jul 20 19:34:45 I thought I saw stepper motor cape somewhere Jul 20 19:35:06 what all language can use with BBB, I understand anything that run on linux,right? Jul 20 19:35:07 BeBoPr Jul 20 19:35:26 wb josh Jul 20 19:35:30 vinnie: you can use any programming language on BBB that is available for linux (apart from mono) Jul 20 19:36:56 so once I have project built with BBB, do it always depended on BBB, I'm looking at cost.. Jul 20 19:37:02 vinnie: http://circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=BeBoPr_Cape Jul 20 19:37:18 vinnie: linux stuff is easy to port to any other embedded board Jul 20 19:37:28 vinnie: just make your GPIO pins configurable Jul 20 19:41:59 XorA: thanks for info Jul 20 19:42:08 is there any project that done with BBB Jul 20 19:42:21 ka6sox: thanks, network issues here Jul 20 19:42:47 XorA, thats the one Jul 20 19:43:41 ka6sox: couldnt have found it without your hint ;-) Jul 20 19:44:08 the bbb is pretty cheap for the features it provides honestly... Jul 20 19:44:08 you could have...the force is strong with you Jul 20 19:44:17 * XorA seems to be the only person in here without a BBB or any capes :-D Jul 20 19:44:26 then buy one... :P Jul 20 19:44:31 I have a BBW Jul 20 19:44:34 ;-) Jul 20 19:44:39 I have two bbw and a bbb Jul 20 19:45:14 and, two dvi-d capes, and a bcc fpga cape... very useful stuff :D Jul 20 19:46:40 BBW has too little ram for anything I do these days :-( Jul 20 19:46:45 all these people looking at 3d printing, I still want a CNC machine Jul 20 19:47:05 tru Jul 20 19:47:06 gave my Beagle XM to a friend wants to build a milling machine Jul 20 19:47:26 is there any information to start with BBB Jul 20 19:47:37 some basic simple project? Jul 20 19:49:59 can build BBB from scratch on breadboard? Jul 20 19:50:11 vinnie: what do you want to build? Jul 20 19:50:58 jmoyerman: I want to try it to build some automation product.. Jul 20 19:51:16 have a BBB trying to blink pin P9_17 using bonescript, will not blink. P9_15 right next to it blinks fine... is 17 not available for digital IO? Jul 20 19:51:53 jmoyerman: not played with BBB want to know community scope and development SDK Jul 20 19:52:59 vinnie: Well. I guess it depends how you want to work with it. Personally I have one running debian, I just develop like I'm writing a typical linux application. Jul 20 19:53:33 Ajw check pinmux tables and set accordingly Jul 20 19:53:40 that what I'm looking for, but not sure if there SDK for interfacng with hardware components Jul 20 19:54:17 well. It depends what you call "hardware components" there are linux drivers and libraries for a lot of chips and things, but again, without specifics its hard to say Jul 20 19:55:07 Ajw https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AmI_ryMKXUGJdDQ3LXB4X3VBWlpxQTFWbGh6RGJHUEE#gid=0 Jul 20 19:55:12 let say I want connect LED on PWM and turn then on off with motion detector Jul 20 19:56:04 So it should be useable Jul 20 19:56:09 if I can find some basic project example with BBB will help me to see how to work with it Jul 20 19:56:21 may be hello world example with BBB :) Jul 20 19:57:10 Vinnie, unless you want to use the pin ports it's practically a pc running linux Jul 20 19:57:27 I wan tot use pin ports Jul 20 19:57:38 So you can code or do what you want with it that you can do in linux Jul 20 19:58:11 Then check the element14 or hipster circuit sites for examples which are mostly in python Jul 20 20:01:35 It's hard to solve a problem without knowing what the problem is... Jul 20 20:01:52 hey stanto, thanks for the link Jul 20 20:02:14 all these modes are new to me, how do I tell what mode I am in? Jul 20 20:02:34 I wan to understand scope of BBB and support and SDK for interacting with hardware Jul 20 20:03:22 looks like mode7 is the one that would make P9_17 a ditigal output Jul 20 20:04:06 vinnie ask specific questions...your questions are too vague Jul 20 20:04:22 vinnie: the BBB can do pretty much anything with enough effort, there's a lot of examples for interacting with hardware, but if you don't have any specific hardware in mind it's harder to say... if for example you needed to work with a light sensor, or audio source, that is specific enough to help Jul 20 20:05:02 hi everyone Jul 20 20:05:06 I want to work with motion sensor to control LED light Jul 20 20:05:20 what is the lastest linux kernel version for BB xM? Jul 20 20:05:35 it could if RF sensor Jul 20 20:05:57 what interface does the sensor use? Jul 20 20:06:14 Ajw no thats not really correct, you choose a mode then you alter it for input/output , check the other sheets for the value to add Jul 20 20:14:45 Man, I am still not understanding the way these pins work. I have seen the pinouts sheets which talk about 65 Digital IO's: But have had it hit or miss on which pins I can actually make blink. Here is the code I am using: https://gist.github.com/anthonywebb/6046278 Jul 20 20:15:33 is there a list of what the "default" state of each pin is, without modifying anything? Jul 20 20:16:03 Ajw read up about dtc and pinmux Jul 20 20:17:08 And I don't think there is Jul 20 20:17:19 I need about 16 digital pins to do a little led blinker game I am creating. planned on using P9_11-18 and P9_21-28 Jul 20 20:17:43 but 4 of those pins wont blink :( Jul 20 20:19:46 ajw: what language / SDK u used for that example? Jul 20 20:21:13 vinnie: no unsolicited priv messages, www,beagleboard.org is your start location Jul 20 20:21:23 vinnie: https://github.com/jadonk/bonescript Jul 20 20:22:20 Real simple nodejs script BBone runs nodejs out of the box, real simple to get things rolling quickly Jul 20 20:22:26 love my BBB Jul 20 20:22:59 now, if only I could control P9_17 :) Jul 20 21:22:37 I am trying to implement an interrupt on a GPIO pin in C. I tried "echo rising > edge", but it does not block my read. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Jul 21 02:59:58 2013