**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jul 21 02:59:58 2013 Jul 21 04:05:35 hi joel_'ster Jul 21 04:25:29 seems like fpga would be good for rapidly moving camera to pan/tilt/zoom for following birds, bats, insects, etc... Jul 21 04:33:11 Need some serious help Jul 21 04:33:18 running ubuntu 13.04 raring Jul 21 04:33:23 booted off SD card Jul 21 04:33:31 I can't remember the login or pass for the first boot :( Jul 21 04:40:55 ubuntu ubuntu Jul 21 04:42:00 ok got past that Jul 21 04:42:04 now I just have a command screen Jul 21 04:42:13 how do I get it to go to the user friend desktop of ubuntu? Jul 21 04:44:57 gnome is not installed by default Jul 21 04:45:11 so there is no desktop at first Jul 21 04:45:38 imo if you need a desktop you'd better stick to angstrom Jul 21 04:45:47 of course you can install gnome Jul 21 04:46:04 but I had troubles trying to do so Jul 21 04:46:09 how do I go about installing gnome? Jul 21 04:46:09 a few months ago Jul 21 04:46:10 apt-get install gnowm-desktop Jul 21 04:46:20 apt-get install gnome-desktop Jul 21 04:46:27 its heavy Jul 21 04:46:30 yes Jul 21 04:46:35 about 1GB Jul 21 04:46:45 does not fit on the board ram Jul 21 04:46:55 so you would need to always boot from SD Jul 21 04:47:04 I have ubuntu running of a 64 class 10 micro sd Jul 21 04:47:11 it said "are you root?" Jul 21 04:47:14 BBW or BBB Jul 21 04:47:16 linux is foreign to me Jul 21 04:47:18 bbb Jul 21 04:47:23 ok Jul 21 04:47:52 so memory Xpander cape won't work Jul 21 04:48:30 ok so I imaged ubuntu 13.04 arm onto the sd card Jul 21 04:48:37 ok Jul 21 04:48:42 I have it running and saying "ubuntu" and stuff on the black screen Jul 21 04:48:56 ubuntu comes with absolutely no warranty etc... Jul 21 04:49:06 typed ubuntu for login and for password Jul 21 04:49:11 it did some things Jul 21 04:49:19 and now it's just chilling here with a blinky cursor Jul 21 04:49:21 still terminal? Jul 21 04:49:26 how do I get to a actual desktop? Jul 21 04:49:26 sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop Jul 21 04:49:32 like did I miss something here? Jul 21 04:49:41 then wait an hour or so to install... Jul 21 04:49:42 no Jul 21 04:49:58 install what? Jul 21 04:50:03 I thought I installed it? Jul 21 04:50:30 typesudo apt-get install gnome-desktop Jul 21 04:50:33 oops Jul 21 04:50:42 it said unable to locate package ubuntu-desktop Jul 21 04:51:05 I typed that said could not open lock fil (permission denied) Jul 21 04:51:39 what happens when you type su? Jul 21 04:51:48 ask for password Jul 21 04:51:53 ok Jul 21 04:51:56 what's the password? Jul 21 04:53:32 it might be blank Jul 21 04:53:40 try hitting enter Jul 21 04:54:10 authentication failure Jul 21 04:54:15 ok Jul 21 04:55:14 type whatever you want Jul 21 04:55:20 to set the password Jul 21 04:55:47 ok can I change it later? Jul 21 04:56:19 still authentication failure Jul 21 04:56:28 hmm Jul 21 04:56:53 are you trying to do su still? Jul 21 04:58:47 ok i set my password and typed su Jul 21 04:58:55 now I have hom/ubuntu# Jul 21 04:58:58 or something like that Jul 21 04:59:03 now what do I type? Jul 21 04:59:08 sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop Jul 21 04:59:17 is that the pink desktop you see in the pictures? Jul 21 04:59:23 no Jul 21 04:59:35 that's unity desktop i think Jul 21 05:00:03 unable to locate package gnome desktop Jul 21 05:00:05 :( Jul 21 05:00:27 hmm Jul 21 05:01:13 try apt-cache search desktop Jul 21 05:02:42 if it doesn't stop in a long time, press control-c Jul 21 05:02:53 ok it was fast Jul 21 05:02:59 good Jul 21 05:03:00 didn't come up with anything that looks like a desktop Jul 21 05:03:13 so no kde-desktop Jul 21 05:03:28 just keyboard pgp replacement, side library, standalone shell setup for initramfs Jul 21 05:03:31 some other stuff Jul 21 05:04:03 ok try sudo aptitude install gnome-desktop Jul 21 05:05:15 aptitude command not found Jul 21 05:05:20 sigh* Jul 21 05:05:24 ok Jul 21 05:06:36 I mean did I miss something to not have a desktop option? Jul 21 05:06:46 nope Jul 21 05:06:51 you did good Jul 21 05:07:08 sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop Jul 21 05:07:18 should work Jul 21 05:07:56 :( unable to locate package ubuntu-desktop Jul 21 05:08:12 do you have a network connection ? Jul 21 05:08:41 yes he does Jul 21 05:08:51 he can do apt-cache search Jul 21 05:08:58 did you try sudo apt-get update Jul 21 05:09:11 i was just about to say that Jul 21 05:09:47 quad0...lol Jul 21 05:09:52 Umm no, haha Jul 21 05:09:58 I didn't know I needed to be logged in Jul 21 05:10:05 try that Jul 21 05:10:15 is this my problem (btw I literally don't know anything about linux I want to learn though) Jul 21 05:10:19 ubuntu comes naked Jul 21 05:10:25 yep Jul 21 05:10:26 to install package you need internet Jul 21 05:10:29 o0oooo sexy Jul 21 05:10:33 ;) Jul 21 05:10:35 brb gonna connect it to the net Jul 21 05:10:43 :ok Jul 21 05:10:45 ok Jul 21 05:11:54 ok connected Jul 21 05:12:06 now type the sudo apt get update? Jul 21 05:12:08 or something else? Jul 21 05:12:47 sudo apt-get update Jul 21 05:13:32 something's happening dude! Jul 21 05:13:46 what? Jul 21 05:14:02 it's updating like crazy! Jul 21 05:14:14 that's expected Jul 21 05:14:19 this reminds me of counterstrike console command Jul 21 05:14:21 I like it haha Jul 21 05:14:25 wait for the next command, you'll see what crazy is Jul 21 05:14:34 "D Jul 21 05:14:37 :D Jul 21 05:14:40 what's the next command? Jul 21 05:15:06 sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop Jul 21 05:15:06 wow this is amazing Jul 21 05:15:46 my keyboard just lost power :( one second Jul 21 05:16:00 :( Jul 21 05:18:20 ok so here's my problem Jul 21 05:18:27 I have the board plugged to a powered usb Jul 21 05:18:40 I don't think it's getting enough power to run the keyboard off the usb port after that update Jul 21 05:18:54 can I restart the board and plug it in to a 5v plug in? Jul 21 05:19:01 do you have a hub? Jul 21 05:19:11 a powered one? Jul 21 05:19:16 you can use that Jul 21 05:19:18 yeah but I don't have a usb male male adapter Jul 21 05:19:26 oh ok Jul 21 05:19:31 so when I plug the keyboard in....it can't transfer data to the board at the moment Jul 21 05:19:44 I think I'm unprepared Jul 21 05:19:54 if I unplug this board is it going to mess what I just did up? Jul 21 05:19:59 you need a decent power supply Jul 21 05:20:04 5v 2A Jul 21 05:20:11 ooo I have an idea Jul 21 05:20:14 then you can use a crappy unpowered hub Jul 21 05:20:17 I'll unplug the ether, plug the usb in Jul 21 05:20:31 type the command then...plug ether in...hit enter Jul 21 05:20:35 and hope it works Jul 21 05:20:45 wait Jul 21 05:20:54 ? Jul 21 05:21:18 quad0, is it ok to plug the 5v and usb in at the same time? Jul 21 05:21:30 yes Jul 21 05:21:35 ok, good Jul 21 05:21:44 siraesessm, proceed Jul 21 05:21:53 ok let me try this out hrmm Jul 21 05:22:21 why do you want ubuntu on your BBB if you are new to linux ? Jul 21 05:22:51 yeah Jul 21 05:22:58 I installed it because on my BBB because I was used to it. Jul 21 05:23:03 if your new Jul 21 05:23:07 stick to angstrom Jul 21 05:23:13 it's more "tested" Jul 21 05:23:18 and light Jul 21 05:23:22 true Jul 21 05:23:30 (with desktop) Jul 21 05:23:39 some apps don't work on angstrom Jul 21 05:23:46 ok Jul 21 05:23:51 most work on ubuntu Jul 21 05:24:15 that may not be his reason why though Jul 21 05:24:20 true Jul 21 05:24:32 because for a beginner it's an extra layer of complexity Jul 21 05:24:53 true Jul 21 05:25:03 ahh I just had a major problem Jul 21 05:25:10 everything shut down I had to restart it all Jul 21 05:25:16 oh Jul 21 05:25:17 but I have a steady power now so that's good Jul 21 05:25:24 okay Jul 21 05:25:26 you have fun now Jul 21 05:25:31 ok Jul 21 05:26:17 I do Jul 21 05:26:45 OMG that's crazy!!! Jul 21 05:26:45 bedtime for baboo Jul 21 05:27:05 after this operation 1223 MB of disk space will be used...do I want to continue? Jul 21 05:27:13 ye Jul 21 05:27:15 yes Jul 21 05:27:52 yeah this is going ape shit on me awesome! Jul 21 05:28:05 ok i have to go Jul 21 05:28:13 yes, you do Jul 21 05:28:14 goodnight Jul 21 05:28:14 ok baboo thank you so much Jul 21 05:28:24 you're welcome Jul 21 05:28:40 you're my first person i've helped on irc Jul 21 05:28:50 sweet! Jul 21 05:28:53 huge help btw Jul 21 05:29:00 once this is done do I need to do anything else? Jul 21 05:29:08 nope Jul 21 05:29:18 wow Jul 21 05:29:25 it automatically starts the desktop on bootup Jul 21 05:29:39 just sign in with ubuntu ubuntu Jul 21 05:29:41 well thank you that's awesome. do I have to reboot to get to it? Jul 21 05:29:47 yes Jul 21 05:30:27 and that's all Jul 21 05:30:36 unity desktop Jul 21 05:30:59 bye! Jul 21 05:34:56 hrmm how long do you think this will take? Jul 21 05:35:55 ka6sox: pass baboo's bed time? :) Jul 21 05:36:13 yes, it is...we have to get up early Jul 21 05:36:29 siraesessm, as long as it takes... Jul 21 05:36:48 ka haha Jul 21 05:37:03 it seems to be going fast Jul 21 05:37:11 ka who is baboo in relation to you? Jul 21 05:37:23 siraesessm, what? Jul 21 05:37:43 like your son, or wife or something? just curious Jul 21 05:38:03 Son Jul 21 05:38:10 ok, so the beagle bone just went off and now it says I have no signal on my tv Jul 21 05:38:22 reb00t time! Jul 21 05:38:26 well. Jul 21 05:38:27 wait Jul 21 05:38:39 ok now it's doing something else Jul 21 05:38:46 it may hve just decided to do something different...ike reboot Jul 21 05:38:46 hehe..this is sooo cool Jul 21 05:39:10 it's selecting and then unpacking Jul 21 05:39:20 little tiny packages of information for my future desktop :) Jul 21 05:39:48 so serious question, why does everyone get so angry at me when i say I want to use ubuntu as my desktop? Jul 21 05:40:05 on a BBB Jul 21 05:40:10 or something else? Jul 21 05:40:11 yes Jul 21 05:40:14 on the bbb Jul 21 05:40:30 I don't do robots....as of the moment Jul 21 05:40:43 the issue primarily is that its dog slow Jul 21 05:40:44 I want something that my girlfriend can't figure out and just says..."ah well I'll use the laptop" Jul 21 05:40:47 the BBB isnt' a desktop Jul 21 05:41:04 its not going to be a desktop replacement Jul 21 05:41:06 well... Jul 21 05:41:10 cause she and my roommates have dl'd every retarded thing on the net onto my laptop Jul 21 05:41:17 like AOL and all this other garbage Jul 21 05:41:27 i don't care if it runs slowish, or what have you Jul 21 05:41:29 then use Angstrom and NOBODY will figure out how to download anything ontot it! Jul 21 05:41:51 haha...I suppose, I will probably use both honestly Jul 21 05:42:07 but I want to check out ubuntu first then angstrom (backwards logic I know) Jul 21 05:42:47 then put a ubuntu image on a uSD card Jul 21 05:43:02 that's what I did ka Jul 21 05:43:13 I'm booting this ubuntu off my microsd 64g class 10 Jul 21 05:47:40 how much are those these days? Jul 21 05:49:02 OH NO it's "no signal" again Jul 21 05:49:15 is it rebooting? I don't know...tune in next time to see Jul 21 05:49:35 mranostay, I got my sandisk on sale at best buy for I think 60 Jul 21 05:50:04 siraesessm: why do you need a card that is normally for high end camera uses? :) Jul 21 05:50:09 it was originally for my gopro but that's over kill I think, however it made the gopro work like a million times better (yes I exagerated) Jul 21 05:50:48 I got the card because it's fast, and it has a lot of storage space on it if I need that in the future I guess Jul 21 05:56:44 mrpackethead, ping? Jul 21 05:57:04 ping Jul 21 05:57:16 good, you are still with us Jul 21 05:57:29 yes, but i'm in australia Jul 21 05:57:30 bit of a shaker? Jul 21 05:57:32 oh Jul 21 05:57:40 family okay? Jul 21 05:57:40 mover and shaker? Jul 21 05:57:47 yes, Jul 21 05:57:50 just heard from them Jul 21 05:57:52 okay good Jul 21 05:57:54 that last one was a 6.8 Jul 21 05:57:58 thats getting up there Jul 21 05:58:00 yes, I know Jul 21 05:58:05 thats why I pinged Jul 21 05:58:09 did i miss a news story? Jul 21 05:58:34 53kms away is too close Jul 21 05:59:02 is new zealand in some earthquake zone? Jul 21 05:59:08 ha ha ha Jul 21 05:59:11 um.... Jul 21 05:59:18 worse than here Jul 21 06:00:00 * mranostay has never felt a earthquake Jul 21 06:00:09 orly? Jul 21 06:00:10 wow Jul 21 06:00:17 I grew up with them... Jul 21 06:00:24 so a 6.9 is "mild" Jul 21 06:00:35 might be worth getting up for. Jul 21 06:00:41 lived in Ohio so never got them Jul 21 06:00:42 a 6.9 at distance is ok Jul 21 06:00:52 saw a few funnel clouds Jul 21 06:00:57 a 4.5 when its direclty under you is scary Jul 21 06:01:00 wow this thing is really taking a long time to finish booting or whatever it's doing Jul 21 06:01:06 :) Jul 21 06:01:12 patience grasshopper Jul 21 06:01:24 mrpackethead, we had a 4.8 under us about a month ago Jul 21 06:01:35 http://www.geonet.co.nz/quakes/region/newzealand/2013p543824 Jul 21 06:01:38 wife wasn't thrilled... Jul 21 06:02:01 but I had to determine if it was here or someplace else...easy to tell now. Jul 21 06:02:20 Hey i have a joke Jul 21 06:02:24 anyone want to hear a joke? Jul 21 06:02:53 2ea 6.5 foreshocks Jul 21 06:02:57 whoa Jul 21 06:03:10 we don't much get those here Jul 21 06:05:55 mrpackethead, okay glad to hear that. Jul 21 06:06:45 doing an instruciton test right now Jul 21 06:07:04 :) Jul 21 06:07:28 ok, there once was a man who sent 10 puns to a friend to make them laugh. No pun in ten did. Jul 21 06:08:31 did you hear that entropy is'nt what it used to be Jul 21 06:10:16 hahaha Jul 21 06:11:11 still laughing at that one Jul 21 06:11:38 no matter how much you push the envelope, it will still be stationary Jul 21 06:12:33 oh nooo Jul 21 06:12:44 it says "no space left on device, unable to flush" Jul 21 06:12:46 or something like that Jul 21 06:14:48 this is crazy ;( Jul 21 06:17:57 I'm screwed... Jul 21 06:18:12 i hate to say i told you so Jul 21 06:19:03 anyway i've read somewhere it's not a good idea to have your OS on sdCard permanently Jul 21 06:19:26 so you would be better off with the latest angstrom for BBB Jul 21 06:23:13 it's like out of space, but I ahve a ton of space on the sd cards...on top of that it's probably a bad .Iso considering Jul 21 08:48:16 https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/555176_555478737849888_361811141_n.jpg Jul 21 08:48:34 damage from teh earthquake.. that supermarekt is jsut 5km away from home Jul 21 09:03:41 that's not even so bad Jul 21 09:27:36 how are folks clamping the voltage on the ADC ? rail-to-rail micropower op amp or something ? Jul 21 10:12:08 hi thr , I am getting the problem in installation of Sitara SDK !!! I am getting application-specific initialization failedproblem Jul 21 10:14:48 @ka6sok , hi thr , I am getting the problem in installation of Sitara SDK !!! I am getting " application-specific initialization failedproblem " Jul 21 10:15:24 @zkxs , hi thr , I am getting the problem in installation of Sitara SDK !!! I am getting " application-specific initialization failedproblem " Jul 21 10:28:55 nilking: try repeating yourself a couple more times, maybe more people will ignore you Jul 21 10:31:22 nilking: oh, and once you're done with that you might want to notice, that the Sitara SDK is by TI, so you'd need to ask them for help. Jul 21 11:40:40 dm8tbr, I'm new one in this bt thnx.. Jul 21 12:16:33 apparently Brno is a sister city to Dallas Jul 21 12:24:23 anyone know of a psyware free Ubuntu? Jul 21 12:27:05 ubuntu without k-pop? Jul 21 12:31:46 I know nothing of ubuntu Jul 21 12:32:03 just trying to help a non-technical friend :) Jul 21 12:32:28 I am in Brno this week Jul 21 12:32:33 must go insearch of a sim Jul 21 13:14:46 koen, you there? Jul 21 13:14:48 https://github.com/jluebbe/linux/commit/bcd6c95b04feca13f1b13b8fda57856dca546739 Jul 21 13:15:12 finally found a spare hour to implement the bandgap sensor as a hwmon driver Jul 21 13:46:41 nice shorgan Jul 21 13:51:22 i've not yet calibrated it Jul 21 13:51:50 so while it says °c, it's not actually correct Jul 21 14:45:43 so... how does one tell in a booted up system if their bbb can take the 1.3a usb input or if its still limited to .5 Jul 21 14:45:46 ? Jul 21 15:08:37 Tenkawa, look at the pmic registers :) Jul 21 15:11:14 shoragan: thanks Jul 21 15:24:32 Howdy y'all. I've got a stupid question regarding LPD8806 strips on a BBB. Jul 21 15:26:04 I'm porting an Arduino based project over to BBB. On the Arduino you declare the clock and data pins. I can't find anything in the python libraries or examples that have that declaration. So I have no idea where the heck to plug in the strips. Jul 21 15:27:49 CookeGMP, which interface to you use to talk to the led strip? SPI? or gpio bitbang? Jul 21 15:28:29 I'll be connecting multiple strips so I think the best method is going to be GPIO Jul 21 15:28:37 take a look at the pin diagrams that show the GPIO pins, connect it to whatever gpio pins you want, and ground Jul 21 15:29:03 and take a look at the names, and put those in your programming Jul 21 15:29:17 if needed, use a resistor Jul 21 15:29:24 bang bang bang your bits, gently down the bus... Jul 21 15:29:38 beaglebone gpio pins are 3.3V Jul 21 15:29:55 Right... but then again, I can't see how to declare the pins in the libraries at all. Jul 21 15:31:15 inputPin = "P8_pinnum"; Jul 21 15:31:37 where pinnum is the number of the gpio pin Jul 21 15:32:04 you can use pinmux.tking.org which i made Jul 21 15:32:33 Fun! Jul 21 15:32:52 yep :) Jul 21 15:33:40 I still don't see something in the libraries that would allow me to make something like "dataPin = P8_14" or whatever. Does that make sense? Jul 21 15:34:24 it has to be Jul 21 15:34:30 dataPin = "P8_14" Jul 21 15:34:33 The libraries where built for Pi if that helps Jul 21 15:35:15 oh Jul 21 15:35:26 i thought you were doing bonescript Jul 21 15:35:51 Python. If I can do LPD8806 and OSC in bonescript I'm willing to do it Jul 21 15:36:25 i know how to do bonescript way better than python Jul 21 15:36:43 but i have to go soon Jul 21 15:36:52 to Tinkerfest Jul 21 15:36:56 Thanks for the help at least Jul 21 15:37:05 i dont have to go now Jul 21 15:37:15 Ha... It's for a MIDI controlled lightsuit for Maker Faire next weekend Jul 21 15:37:25 oh ok:) Jul 21 15:38:01 i can convert the python into bonescript if you've already programmed some Jul 21 15:38:11 It's functional on an Arudino Mega with ethernet shield and a little nano wifi router, but that it a bunch of bulky hardware Jul 21 15:38:16 ok Jul 21 15:38:27 could you please show me the code? Jul 21 15:38:49 or do you just want me to help with the gpio pins? Jul 21 15:39:13 either way is fine Jul 21 15:39:51 sure. What's the easiest way to send code? Jul 21 15:40:11 http://192.168.7.2:3000/ Jul 21 15:40:24 BBB or BBW? Jul 21 15:40:31 Ha. I meant to you Jul 21 15:40:46 oh, just pastebin it Jul 21 15:41:03 simplicity Jul 21 15:41:26 http://pastebin.com/Nt7BqLe4 Jul 21 15:41:41 That has the Ardunio code commented out on it Jul 21 15:43:14 ok i have to go Jul 21 15:43:28 will come back when done with tinkerfest Jul 21 15:43:37 Anyone know if python3 has been successfully installed on the black with Angstrom? Jul 21 15:44:11 Have fun Jul 21 16:10:33 What's the best serial port to use, except O4 Jul 21 16:11:05 I know many have other purposes, but are there any that won't get in the way of HDMI etc Jul 21 16:15:56 Is uart1 used for much? Jul 21 16:18:07 I don't have much experience with this but maybe just look at the other peripherals sitting on those ports? Jul 21 16:18:53 Ah yes Jul 21 16:19:22 Is UART1 ttyO1? Jul 21 16:19:57 which board r u using? Jul 21 16:21:07 BBB Jul 21 16:23:16 well i think all ports are heavily overloaded with peripherals Jul 21 16:23:22 so just pick one and go with it Jul 21 16:23:39 Why has my BBB suddenly decided to be read only? Jul 21 16:25:00 i'm not sure Jul 21 16:27:27 Willdude123: what part is readonly Jul 21 16:36:11 Tenkawa: It says a read only filesystem Jul 21 16:37:02 Willdude123: ouch.. Jul 21 16:37:22 got a fs error then at some point Jul 21 16:37:36 That a question? Jul 21 16:37:41 might be your card Jul 21 16:37:46