**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jul 28 02:59:58 2013 Jul 28 03:00:04 cool i'll put deb on there tonight Jul 28 03:00:13 going to use my beagle to power a laser scanning 3d printer i'm building Jul 28 03:00:37 emeb_mac: i'm getting the BBB files converted to Eagle. then i can more easily build up a system Jul 28 03:00:45 based on the bb, but more to my liking Jul 28 03:01:01 what are teh BBB files now? KiCad? Jul 28 03:01:10 Orcad Jul 28 03:01:13 ah Jul 28 03:01:39 loving my beagle (just got it). Loads better than my pi's Jul 28 03:01:50 off to put debian on Jul 28 03:02:44 mrpackethead: all of the deb images i see for BBB use the 3.8 kernel Jul 28 03:02:57 yes. Jul 28 03:03:32 what are the audio issues? Jul 28 03:03:40 its not a beagle problem Jul 28 03:03:47 its a linux kernel issue Jul 28 03:03:57 that's fine, but do you know what the issues are? Jul 28 03:04:15 yes Jul 28 03:04:19 ALSA did'tn work very well Jul 28 03:04:36 google 3.8 kernel, jackd Jul 28 03:04:38 you'll find it Jul 28 03:05:13 hmm wondering if that will cause me problems Jul 28 03:05:15 suggest you run with Robert nelsons build Jul 28 03:05:29 http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardDebian#eMMC:_BeagleBone_Black Jul 28 03:05:39 the installer is pretty minimal Jul 28 03:05:42 but it works well Jul 28 03:05:47 thanks for the link Jul 28 03:05:47 then you can install what you want after that Jul 28 03:06:28 anybody know what to put in uEnv.txt on the sdcard to get it to boot from the mmc (bbb)? Jul 28 03:07:01 thanks mrpackethead huge help, i'm getting off to but into linux to load it up Jul 28 03:07:20 do you have a linux host to work with? Jul 28 03:07:22 if you do Jul 28 03:07:26 just download that image Jul 28 03:07:32 and dd it onto a sd-card Jul 28 03:07:34 easy Jul 28 03:07:39 drop it in the beagle Jul 28 03:07:40 and reboot Jul 28 03:08:14 unfortunately I don't have a good way of writing an sd-card Jul 28 03:08:37 glucose: taht was for beardface Jul 28 03:08:54 mrpackethead:ah, sry Jul 28 03:14:36 glucose have you tried specifying the rootfs? Jul 28 03:15:19 glucose: just delete the MLO file Jul 28 03:16:30 wmat: I don't have a MLO file on my sdcard Jul 28 03:16:43 glucose Jul 28 03:16:43 he means off the emmc I think Jul 28 03:16:45 mmcdev=1 Jul 28 03:16:45 bootpart=1:2 Jul 28 03:16:45 mmcroot=/dev/mmcblk1p2 ro Jul 28 03:16:57 will boot eMMC while sd card is inserted Jul 28 03:16:58 ah Jul 28 03:17:02 m_billybob: that looks about right Jul 28 03:17:09 * wmat was thinking sd card Jul 28 03:17:14 m_billybob: I'll try and report back Jul 28 03:17:52 hows everyone tonight Jul 28 03:18:02 wait, isn't MMC boot the default? Jul 28 03:18:14 mrpacket seems to have a cold, bhow about evryone else ? Jul 28 03:18:20 emmc is the default Jul 28 03:18:24 yup Jul 28 03:18:30 wmat: I suppose so, but whenever I put in my sdcard, it wants to boot from there everytime Jul 28 03:18:42 if you insert an SD without that in uEnv.txt the bbb will hang Jul 28 03:18:57 m_billybob: thats what is happening Jul 28 03:19:07 glucose: then your MMC isn't flashed with anything Jul 28 03:19:16 wmat: agreed Jul 28 03:19:39 glucose you have a debug cable / module ? Jul 28 03:19:45 read the uboot message log Jul 28 03:19:46 wmat: I just got a bbb this week, and I'm playing with it for the first time, but have no way of getting an image on the sdcard Jul 28 03:19:51 m_billybob: nope Jul 28 03:20:10 glucose: why? Jul 28 03:20:11 m_billybob: I'm gonna put those bits on the sdcard and pray Jul 28 03:20:21 glucose with those params in uEnv.txt it should boot fine with an SD cardinseted Jul 28 03:20:29 asuming you have something on the eMMC to boot from Jul 28 03:20:42 m_billybob: yep, its got default angstrom Jul 28 03:20:59 m_billybob: I'm gonna use that to get arch on the sdcard Jul 28 03:21:21 cant help there but i do know arch works on the BBB, well atleast ive been told Jul 28 03:21:27 glucose: i thought you said it doesn't boot with no card inserted Jul 28 03:21:39 wmat: sorry it does Jul 28 03:21:50 ah Jul 28 03:21:58 * m_billybob runs debian like mrpackethead Jul 28 03:22:12 been running it since the beginning and works very well Jul 28 03:22:21 then m_billybob's instructions should work Jul 28 03:22:23 m_billybob: to each his own I guess Jul 28 03:22:30 of course. Jul 28 03:22:39 m_billybob: :) Jul 28 03:22:45 wait, not JIHAD! you must run debian ( not really ) Jul 28 03:22:58 run what makes you happy lol Jul 28 03:23:04 what, no angstrom love? Jul 28 03:23:10 not from me. Jul 28 03:23:23 long time die hard debian "fan" Jul 28 03:23:44 ARCH sounds interresting but im very familiar with debian. Jul 28 03:23:51 wmat: doesn't have the modules built for the wireless mouse/combo I have :( Jul 28 03:23:55 gentoo soudns amiliar to me even Jul 28 03:24:06 familliar too Jul 28 03:24:12 err Jul 28 03:24:13 m_billybob: at some point Linux/gnu is Linux/gnu Jul 28 03:24:20 wtf was i saying ? Jul 28 03:24:33 gentoo sound interresting to me too Jul 28 03:24:55 glucose, im to intrenched / happy with knowing where thigns are, plus APT / dpkg Jul 28 03:25:13 again we all need to use what makes us happy. Jul 28 03:27:33 glucose either way there are a few people here runnign ARCH who seem very happy with it. More power to them i say Jul 28 03:28:25 m_billybob: I have to work with debian at my job, I need something a little farther off for my fun :) Jul 28 03:28:42 I think id have problems with a roaming package "list" Jul 28 03:28:52 or just roaming packages Jul 28 03:28:57 i like things concrete Jul 28 03:29:33 the latest EEVblog is really good Jul 28 03:29:47 if you like JTAG/Bounday Scan stuff Jul 28 03:29:50 wmat which is about what ? Jul 28 03:29:57 ah Jul 28 03:30:20 no need for it personally yet, although could be something worth learning eventually. Jul 28 03:30:53 I find dave a bit . ..hmm . . .obscure. He seems to talk about thing, without actually saying anything. Jul 28 03:31:38 some of the oscilliscope teardowns i found interesting. Jul 28 03:31:48 i like the dumpster dive stuff Jul 28 03:34:30 glucose now when you're ready to boot from the SD card, this link ( although debian related ) may give you some insight on how your uEnv.txt needs to be "setup" mainly the uEnv.txt file section Jul 28 03:34:31 http://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black Jul 28 03:34:55 glucose also this source file might be of some use too Jul 28 03:34:56 http://git.denx.de/?p=u-boot.git;a=blob;f=include/configs/am335x_evm.h;hb=HEAD#l57 Jul 28 03:35:45 post your experience to elinux.org, my personal favorite ;) Jul 28 03:35:58 I have my own blog Jul 28 03:36:10 elinux.org is a wiki Jul 28 03:36:11 all debian related of course. Jul 28 03:36:23 link Jul 28 03:36:32 embeddedhobbyist.com Jul 28 03:37:20 m_billybob: looks like it worked Jul 28 03:37:37 m_billybob: it booted up fine with the sdcard in there Jul 28 03:37:39 * m_billybob knew it would Jul 28 03:37:49 m_billybob: thanks :) Jul 28 03:37:50 its been tested ;) Jul 28 03:38:07 thank Spirilis he researched those parameters Jul 28 03:38:09 m_billybob: subscribed. Jul 28 03:38:13 but you're welcome all the same Jul 28 03:38:34 m_billybob: you should post to the beagle group on G+ when you post on your blog Jul 28 03:38:41 or perhaps you have already Jul 28 03:38:53 wmat fwiw i am currently working on a blog for USB boot Jul 28 03:38:54 m_billybob: if I run into him I'll thank him too, but you helped me get on the right path, thx Jul 28 03:39:27 m_billybob: i look forward to reading it Jul 28 03:39:50 wmat, that theme is custom written by me . . . lot of work which i kind of . ... hmm idk dont care to do, but i may write more functionality into my theme Jul 28 03:40:14 php os definately not one of my favored languages Jul 28 03:40:17 is* Jul 28 03:41:34 yes, i use the evil wordpress . . . would like ot add comments too, but keep getting spam comments whcih i dont know how to proerly deal with *YET* Jul 28 03:42:08 * wmat uses Octopress Jul 28 03:42:18 mostly post acomment with an url in it and you get auto spammed lol Jul 28 03:42:38 but comments are currently off for the time being Jul 28 03:43:11 keep them off Jul 28 03:43:49 I've ben thinking of putting related video's on my youtune channel and let people comment there Jul 28 03:43:56 youtube* Jul 28 03:44:23 more functionality to write into the theme though. ill get around to *something* eventually Jul 28 03:45:09 * wmat out Jul 28 03:45:17 later. Jul 28 03:47:16 later. everything is later Jul 28 03:47:21 why cna't i have everything now Jul 28 03:50:37 * m_billybob shrugs Jul 28 03:50:46 instant gratification ? Jul 28 03:51:19 instant kernel 5.0 Jul 28 03:51:44 erm cant disagree enough. instant debian 15 would be bettter :P Jul 28 06:54:41 Friends any one know the procedure for booting from spi nand device of AM35XX preocess (or) begale bone black board ? Jul 28 07:05:53 who trolls trolls the most.. ooh ahhh Jul 28 09:39:13 i'm dissapointed to see the increasing number of peopel posting in the mailing list, that the board sucks because i can't install it. Jul 28 09:51:39 mrpackethead, dissapointed in the people not able to make it work or dissapointed in some initiative to make it easier? Jul 28 09:52:13 dissapointed that some people just assume their hardware is broken, or not deisgned properly Jul 28 09:52:24 becuase they cnat' get it to work after 10 minutes of effort Jul 28 09:53:08 ok Jul 28 09:53:13 but i guess the bbb is steeper learning curve that a RPi Jul 28 09:53:45 Yes, and that I think that is what we need to compare. Jul 28 09:53:58 but honestly its not that hard Jul 28 09:55:26 I can't say, been working on Linux for ~20 years so I don't know any longer what is easy and what is hard for someone new Jul 28 09:55:43 yeah. Jul 28 09:55:58 i first came in contact with Linux in about 1992 Jul 28 09:56:25 I think the pages Robert Nelson put together are excellent, but it does take some experience to be able to comprehend Jul 28 09:56:39 yes possibly. Jul 28 09:57:18 But is seems "everyone" is able to get the RPi to work, likely they have done something differently Jul 28 09:57:33 they only really ahve 1 os Jul 28 09:57:35 that is common Jul 28 09:57:39 and it comes ready to run Jul 28 09:58:20 Right, now I haven't tried one myself, but how is that different from the Ångström image that comes on the BBB? Jul 28 09:59:27 problme is that the number of people who know Angstrom is pretty limited Jul 28 09:59:46 its a "small" community compared to the likes of the ubuntu or debian users Jul 28 09:59:55 Building Ångström or using it? Jul 28 10:00:40 using it Jul 28 10:02:32 Agreed, but I think the number of people that knows how to put together the Ångström image are _very_ few. Jul 28 10:02:44 yup Jul 28 10:02:49 theres just not a large community Jul 28 10:03:27 I actually decided to build "my own" distro due to this, just couldn't find enough information on Ångström. Jul 28 10:03:40 i use debian Jul 28 10:03:44 and its working well for me Jul 28 10:03:48 With "my own" I mean a custom yocto poky based distro Jul 28 10:04:08 I also use debian, agree it works well Jul 28 10:04:38 But putting debian on the BBBs instead of Ångström will not make it easier "to get started" Jul 28 10:05:10 i think one of the problems is that usb-gadgets are not well understood Jul 28 10:05:53 people are stupid and demand #exactsteps Jul 28 10:05:56 that is the problem Jul 28 10:06:36 well, whats odd, is bbb, was obviously designed to compete with Rpi Jul 28 10:06:57 the price was probably pushed to be competitive Jul 28 10:07:04 _designed_, no Jul 28 10:07:15 it's only a small tweak of the white bone Jul 28 10:07:20 which predates the rpi Jul 28 10:07:42 added hdmi output Jul 28 10:07:53 but that compromised lots of other stuff? Jul 28 10:07:59 and the eMMC stuff Jul 28 10:08:06 added hdmi and emmc Jul 28 10:08:07 I'm just trying to udnerstnad the model. Jul 28 10:08:26 if it was to make it more competitive, by reducing price Jul 28 10:08:27 removed the onboard usb serial/jtag Jul 28 10:08:42 it targets a new market space Jul 28 10:08:57 not really Jul 28 10:09:03 but it is priced too low Jul 28 10:09:08 brings in the idiots Jul 28 10:09:09 it targets a space where people expect point'n click tools though Jul 28 10:09:25 it _appeals_ to that space Jul 28 10:09:31 indeed Jul 28 10:09:31 I'm not sure that was intentional Jul 28 10:09:35 frankly, if you are using a bbb as a dev tool to build a new system on, then $45 or $145 wod'tn make any differnce Jul 28 10:09:47 its an RPi sideefect ... Jul 28 10:09:54 I would have bought a BBB, for $145 Jul 28 10:09:58 becase it does what i want Jul 28 10:10:02 or even 245 Jul 28 10:10:06 the original beagle was $145 Jul 28 10:10:10 and i coud'nt build it for a lot lot less Jul 28 10:10:24 and it had "hdmi" too fwiw Jul 28 10:10:58 so, is it a "product" in its own right Jul 28 10:10:59 the pandaboard wasn't much more expensive and it had TWO HDMI/DVI outputs Jul 28 10:11:17 in which case, making it lower cost will increase volume Jul 28 10:11:17 the pandaboard was subsidised Jul 28 10:11:32 dm8tbr: yes, however the software for the panda was less supported than beagleboard imho Jul 28 10:11:39 or is it a "tool" for peoplel to develop new products from Jul 28 10:11:44 I ran into countless problems with ubuntu Jul 28 10:11:56 * dm8tbr mumbles something about bloody politics Jul 28 10:12:02 you're not meant to run ubuntu on it Jul 28 10:12:11 the pandaboard is a low-cost evm Jul 28 10:12:21 mru, what are you supposed to run on it? Jul 28 10:12:38 whatever you're putting in your final product Jul 28 10:12:47 does google glass run ubuntu? Jul 28 10:12:49 Android I'd say. it was also very unsupported by Google Jul 28 10:12:55 The linaro images works quite well on the pan Jul 28 10:13:00 panda... Jul 28 10:13:13 and if your final product had ubuntu on it? Jul 28 10:13:14 uh, panda was officially supported by aosp Jul 28 10:13:22 mrpackethead: then it's not a real product Jul 28 10:13:51 mru: no, actually JBQ had to find a specific release and tag it for the panda since master no longer worked Jul 28 10:14:13 it _was_ supported at one point Jul 28 10:14:22 the ics release iirc Jul 28 10:14:29 yes, 4.0.3 iirc worked fine Jul 28 10:14:34 they probably moved to something else for jb Jul 28 10:14:51 but I guess everyone uses the linaro images now Jul 28 10:15:13 * mru never has and never will Jul 28 10:15:16 mru: so it woudl be imaginery Jul 28 10:16:55 the main issue was that TI decided to switch the DSP OS after 12.04 (same DSP OS now used on the Galaxy Nexus), that caused lots of issues Jul 28 10:17:07 even though the previous DSP OS worked just fine on 12.04 Jul 28 10:17:11 what dsp? Jul 28 10:17:37 the one that did the all the video decoding. a C6000 perhaps? I'm unsure Jul 28 10:17:59 video decoding is done on the ivahd which is not a dsp in the usual sense Jul 28 10:18:25 and you don't need to care about the software it runs Jul 28 10:18:31 the prob with TI was that they switched internals all the time and couldnt keep up with the speed Jul 28 10:18:40 (SW internals) Jul 28 10:18:44 you're probably thinking about the M3 aka ducati Jul 28 10:19:01 which resulted in multimedia support always being behind the distro releases Jul 28 10:19:12 they always ran sysbios on that Jul 28 10:19:22 ah, DSP/BIOS Link. to their credit it's the only company I know of that opens their DSP stack a little bit Jul 28 10:19:24 although the rpc interface was changed a few times Jul 28 10:19:35 (not counting CortexM DSP) Jul 28 10:19:35 and the fact that you needed 1700 kernel patches to actually make it work properly Jul 28 10:19:43 cortexm is not dsp Jul 28 10:19:51 (for graphical use) Jul 28 10:19:59 mru: M4 has floating point support Jul 28 10:20:03 so? Jul 28 10:20:06 doesn't make it a dsp Jul 28 10:20:10 it's a microcontroller Jul 28 10:20:21 see the M in the name? Jul 28 10:20:24 well it can do digital signal processing, so... Jul 28 10:20:39 _any_ programmable machine can do that Jul 28 10:20:48 see http://www.iar.com/About/Blog/2012/1/Designing-advanced-DSP-applications/ Jul 28 10:20:49 i can do process a digital signal with a $0.20 74 series logic chip Jul 28 10:20:54 does'nt make it a DSP Jul 28 10:20:56 lol iar Jul 28 10:21:04 what mrpackethead said Jul 28 10:21:43 mrpackethead: ok. good luck with that :) Jul 28 10:21:59 cde, i do it daily Jul 28 10:22:03 I've processed digital signals with 74 logic many times Jul 28 10:22:05 dont' need much luck. Jul 28 10:22:11 barely even skill Jul 28 10:22:24 I was doing it when I was 10 Jul 28 10:22:33 or maybe 11, can't remember Jul 28 10:22:39 i was doing it before I was born Jul 28 10:22:46 my tv is bigger than yours Jul 28 10:22:49 ha ha ha ha Jul 28 10:23:01 just saying it's not difficult Jul 28 10:23:22 i must be old. Jul 28 10:23:30 i used 4000 series cmos Jul 28 10:23:38 I've used those too Jul 28 10:23:54 first thing i built though, was a 1 led flasher Jul 28 10:24:05 but had to do it with a transisitor! Jul 28 10:24:37 transistors, what newfangled nonsense is that? Jul 28 10:24:58 anyway, just musing for the day. Trying to understand what the Beagle-drug-pushers are trying to do Jul 28 10:25:16 which market(s) are they trying to tackle, and why? Jul 28 10:25:24 stop trying Jul 28 10:25:28 they don't know it themselves Jul 28 10:26:14 and theres a question Jul 28 10:26:17 who is "they" Jul 28 10:26:21 is "they" CCO Jul 28 10:26:27 or is "they" TI Jul 28 10:26:32 or is "they" the chinese? Jul 28 10:26:39 gerald, jkridner, cco, ... Jul 28 10:27:19 mmm, cco. Jul 28 10:27:28 the guys who promise to get back to you Jul 28 10:27:30 but never do. Jul 28 10:27:44 sounds like most companies Jul 28 10:28:13 i've started work now on the beagle-clone-red Jul 28 10:29:08 it's not really a bcr, but we are calling it that for fun Jul 28 10:29:25 ripping out the stuff we dnt' need Jul 28 10:30:11 Hello everyone. I'm a new Beaglebone Black user, and my keyboard isn't being detected at boot. Any ideas? Jul 28 10:30:35 is it plugged in? Jul 28 10:31:04 Haha, that question could apply to the Beaglebone, or the keyboard. The answer to both questions is yes. Jul 28 10:31:20 powered by usb, or external? Jul 28 10:31:37 USB, right now. Jul 28 10:32:55 The version of Angstrom Linux on eMMC is pretty old, apparently Jul 28 10:33:06 pyBBIO told me to upgrade when I tried to install it Jul 28 10:33:21 can you power it with an external ps Jul 28 10:33:28 some usb ports dont' supply enough currnet Jul 28 10:33:46 Yep, I can do that Jul 28 10:36:16 No difference :( Jul 28 10:36:33 Same keyboard works fine on my Raspberry Pi Jul 28 10:37:23 if you're using bus-powered usb devices, you should power the beagle with a real power supply Jul 28 10:38:14 <_SY_> Morning Jul 28 10:38:16 StyxAlso: can you get a full boot log? Jul 28 10:38:17 <_SY_> Just Jul 28 10:40:25 i dont' use any keyboards Jul 28 10:40:37 mru: I'll try Jul 28 10:43:34 mrpackethead: http://youtu.be/hShY6xZWVGE?t=20s Jul 28 10:51:59 mru: I'm not that familiar with Angstrom Linux. Which log in /var/log do I need to look at? Jul 28 10:52:11 just run dmesg Jul 28 10:52:14 k Jul 28 10:52:27 and pastebin the output Jul 28 10:54:52 http://pastebin.com/h1SwttKD Jul 28 10:57:37 mru: I don't see anything in there about USB, just a lot of stuff about my monitor Jul 28 10:58:11 gah, too spammy Jul 28 10:58:21 you've lost the start of the log Jul 28 10:58:46 Bus 001 Device 002: ID 04a5:0001 Acer Peripherals Inc. (now BenQ Corp.) Keyboard Jul 28 10:58:46 Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Jul 28 10:58:47 Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Jul 28 10:58:50 That Jul 28 10:59:01 I see a keyboard there Jul 28 10:59:07 's the output of lsusb. So it can see the keyboard. Jul 28 10:59:09 Yeah Jul 28 10:59:37 I'm mystified as to why the num lock keys don't toggle the lights, and why I can't, for instance, switch virtual terminals. Jul 28 10:59:53 Do I need to mod probe a driver or something? Jul 28 11:00:00 does your kernel have a usbhid driver Jul 28 11:00:30 It has hidp, but not usbhid Jul 28 11:01:04 How do I load that? Jul 28 11:01:18 that might not be the actual name of the driver Jul 28 11:01:26 I'll Google Jul 28 11:01:48 oh, that is the name Jul 28 11:09:56 mru: I'm unsure what to do next. Do I load a driver? Jul 28 11:10:05 get a proper boot log Jul 28 11:10:12 If it helps, I can reboot without my monitor connected. Then dmesg should be less spammy. Jul 28 11:10:16 mru: Okay. Jul 28 11:10:26 rather reboot _without_ the monitor connected Jul 28 11:10:30 and don't connect it Jul 28 11:14:25 http://pastebin.com/gr8Jxb40 Jul 28 11:14:51 That's much better, starts from the beginning of the log Jul 28 11:17:10 line 377 Jul 28 11:17:56 Ah, thank you Jul 28 11:18:12 What does it mean? Jul 28 11:18:35 71 is EPROTO Jul 28 11:18:38 "Protocol error" Jul 28 11:18:44 no idea what might cause it Jul 28 11:19:14 are you using a usb hub? Jul 28 11:19:38 No Jul 28 11:19:46 Keyboard straight into the bone Jul 28 11:20:35 try using a powered hub Jul 28 11:20:43 power issues can cause almost any error Jul 28 11:20:54 Okay Jul 28 11:27:26 mru: Okay, I did that Jul 28 11:27:39 Now, when I run lsusb, I see two hubs, but not keyboard Jul 28 11:28:32 strange Jul 28 11:29:21 Quite Jul 28 11:30:02 one of the hid-drivers might missing Jul 28 11:30:13 Could be? Jul 28 11:30:36 The kbd works but numlock doesn't ? Jul 28 11:31:26 No, as far as I know, the keyboard does not work at all Jul 28 11:31:31 StyxAlso: zgrep CONFIG_HID_ /proc/config.gz Jul 28 11:32:26 aholler: Lots and lots of the lines in there are commented Jul 28 11:32:35 Lsusb should show it even If no driver attaches to it Jul 28 11:32:47 True Jul 28 11:32:54 When I plug it in directly, it does Jul 28 11:33:04 When I connect it via my USB hub, it doesn't. Jul 28 11:34:13 what does the kernel log say when using a hub? Jul 28 11:34:30 and just to make sure, this hub is self-powered? Jul 28 11:34:34 i.e. not bus-powered Jul 28 11:35:20 Yes, it has an external power supply Jul 28 11:39:13 http://pastebin.com/dwuxUCYZ Jul 28 11:43:21 More error -71s Jul 28 11:43:28 with the hub Jul 28 11:45:29 My Logitech mouse works great ... Jul 28 11:45:32 btw, usbhid is in the kernel, line 293 says so Jul 28 11:46:37 "CAUTION: musb: Babble Interrupt Occurred" wtf Jul 28 11:46:49 Indeed Jul 28 11:46:55 I have no idea what that could be about Jul 28 11:49:14 For now, I'm using the virtual keyboard with the mouse Jul 28 11:49:35 and I must say I'm pleasantly surprised by how zippy the Beaglebone Black is, compared to the Raspberry Pi Jul 28 11:49:43 _Much_ more responsive :) Jul 28 11:50:16 a real cpu will do that Jul 28 11:51:17 Burrrrnnn Jul 28 11:51:31 That's one of the reasons I bought it :) And the much more impressive IO capabilities Jul 28 11:52:16 just don't try playing hd video on it Jul 28 11:53:50 I was a bit surprised to find out the Raspberry Pi only has digital IO! Jul 28 11:54:04 After playing with Arduino for a while, I just assumed the Pi would have that. Jul 28 11:54:51 The USB babble is bad i think Jul 28 11:55:33 Styx, linux is not ideal for realtime io anyway Jul 28 11:56:00 With the Pi I Jul 28 11:56:02 oops Jul 28 11:56:26 bone has the PRUs for realtime i/o Jul 28 11:56:45 With the Pi I used an arduino linked with serial and I2C for io Jul 28 11:56:53 Mr Jul 28 11:56:59 Fffuuu :) Jul 28 11:57:03