**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Aug 02 02:59:59 2013 Aug 02 03:00:19 hrmm Aug 02 03:00:51 so should I just re-write fedora 19 to this SD card since I seemed to not have a root user password when I was trying to install something on it? Aug 02 03:01:47 you don't have the password for the image you copied? Aug 02 03:02:37 you also need to be rood if you are trying to edit the files on the sdcard in the second partition Aug 02 03:02:41 root* Aug 02 03:29:35 how can I find what version of bonescript I'm running? Aug 02 03:29:57 setting the mux through bonescript doesn't seem to be working Aug 02 03:31:13 http://pastebin.com/4jRT2cj7 Aug 02 03:31:37 I set mux to 6 and on the success callback I read the pinmode and it shows 7 : \ Aug 02 03:31:46 goge: use opkg to get the version Aug 02 03:32:27 goge: I think it's opkg list bonescript Aug 02 03:32:33 or something like that Aug 02 03:33:31 wmat thanks! Aug 02 03:33:48 anyone know if mux setting works in bonescript 1.0-r12 ? Aug 02 03:34:46 goge: also, http://circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=BeagleBone_Black_FAQ#Is_my_version_of_Bonescript_up_to_date.3F Aug 02 03:36:41 thanks Aug 02 03:41:03 ya so it was up to latest... Aug 02 03:41:51 goge: as for the mux question, there's a thread on the mailing list about this Aug 02 03:42:02 goge: search it for mux bonescript Aug 02 03:42:34 goge: i think there's a bonescript bug, so use device tree instead Aug 02 03:44:01 goge: this is as of jul. 31st, btw Aug 02 03:46:03 awesome. : \ Aug 02 03:51:12 all of the pwms are muxed to gpio. what? the. hell! Aug 02 03:59:13 hi, how to connect BBB to internet wif proxy , where the proxy need username and password?? ./set-proxy ethernet_9059af556c6a_cable manual servers=http://USERNAME:passwprd@172.16.3.131:8080 , is this correct? Aug 02 03:59:49 Hi, I was wondering what the max amperage draw form the GPIO ports is Aug 02 04:02:42 ffrom the user manual it says 100mA Aug 02 04:03:28 The USB specification requires that the current consumed prior to enumeration be limited to 100mA @ 5V (500mW) Aug 02 04:03:38 okay thanks, Mikey__ becuase I read that it was 4mA and that seemed a little low Aug 02 04:04:02 hi, how to connect BBB to internet wif proxy , where the proxy need username and password?? ./set-proxy ethernet_9059af556c6a_cable manual servers=http://USERNAME:passwprd@172.16.3.131:8080 , is this correct? Aug 02 04:04:24 no need to ask twice Aug 02 04:05:02 sry Aug 02 04:05:37 man this DT stuff is giving me a headache... Aug 02 04:06:07 goge: welcome to the club Aug 02 04:06:17 I'm not building a cape, I'm just trying to get a single pwm. for serious. Aug 02 04:06:38 Mikey__: no idea, but in that line you pasted, should "servers" be "server" Aug 02 04:06:50 well. good night peeps Aug 02 04:06:59 goge: good night, and good luck Aug 02 04:07:22 err.. nope, Aug 02 04:08:26 dunno then, but that wouldn't be specific to the BBB, that would be a general linux networking thing Aug 02 04:08:33 so google is your friend Aug 02 04:08:58 okok, thanks Aug 02 04:32:49 mranostay? http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Concern-About-Radioactive-Material-Follows-Car-Crash-218004011.html Aug 02 04:36:29 This is why you don't mark things with the wrong WHMIS tags. Aug 02 04:36:50 or HAZMAT labels Aug 02 04:37:17 or "rectal use only"? Aug 02 04:37:37 ^ Aug 02 04:37:45 wasn't me Aug 02 04:59:38 is it safe to come out from under the bridge now ? Aug 02 04:59:58 no Aug 02 05:01:39 never safe Aug 02 05:01:58 some trolls are drinking and reading schematics Aug 02 05:02:09 empty beer bottles will fly! Aug 02 05:02:42 i'm drinking cans Aug 02 05:03:09 you are suppose to drink the beer not the can Aug 02 05:05:51 Note to self, sony brand SD cards are epic failures Aug 02 05:05:58 2 pack of sony sds both bad Aug 02 05:06:20 can't be worse than Kingston Aug 02 05:06:36 md5sum them once its ok, as soon as its unplugged/plugged they lose md5, tried on a few computers and my bbb Aug 02 05:06:51 maybe kingston and sony are the same company secretly Aug 02 05:07:14 I had good luck with a new poloroid that was on sale and a few sandiscs but my best one is a transcend Aug 02 05:07:42 and thats why my bbb was flashing for hours Aug 02 05:07:52 guess it was just getting cyclic data or something Aug 02 05:09:49 mranostay: do go all portland on me Aug 02 05:10:19 https://github.com/mtuomi/SecondReality Aug 02 05:10:35 finally something to run on the minnowboard you can't on a beagle! Aug 02 05:12:02 I have several forms of Sony flash all work fine, including the 16GB uSD I have in my bbb atm Aug 02 05:12:21 you're doing it *wrong* :P Aug 02 05:13:32 that is what she said Aug 02 05:14:07 good moaning Aug 02 05:14:20 hola Aug 02 05:14:42 i should get another beer downstairs Aug 02 05:15:07 * m_billybob is avoiding headaches today ( or in the morning if you prefer ) Aug 02 05:15:48 mranostay cooler under the bridge empty ? Aug 02 05:16:11 could have sworn there were at least 3 left last i looked Aug 02 05:23:03 m_billybob: you should know not to leave beer around me Aug 02 05:23:46 ;) Aug 02 05:28:34 heh wasn't LF suppose to accept/reject notices today? Aug 02 05:30:13 mranostay: yea unless you submitted something that involved bitbanging or Raspberry Pi it was rejected Aug 02 05:32:19 someone should make a presentation: how to lobotomize a BBB to make it work like a rpi Aug 02 05:32:27 would be a smash hit, I'm sure... Aug 02 05:35:25 "howtoforge: how to install rasbian on the Beaglebone Black." Aug 02 05:36:32 oh, yeah, software side too ofc Aug 02 05:41:49 have to say I am fairly amazed by how many people want to network their BBB via USB Aug 02 05:44:53 good möurning trolls, djihadis and djihadistas Aug 02 05:45:29 * dm8tbr hails at LetoThe2nd Aug 02 05:47:22 dm8tbr: \o/ Aug 02 05:47:25 koen: ping Aug 02 05:50:38 DOes anyone else here boot off USB ? Curious if it is worth the added effort to add a swap on the USB drive as well Aug 02 06:02:53 guess not Aug 02 06:05:07 LetoThe2nd: ping Aug 02 06:06:16 koen: good morning! do you have a second? Aug 02 06:07:29 yes Aug 02 06:07:41 beer Aug 02 07:14:14 hello Aug 02 07:27:42 * mranostay kicks beer bottles at LetoThe2nd Aug 02 07:29:34 * mranostay kicks beer bottles at LetoThe2nd and mrpackethead Aug 02 07:29:48 gee thanks. Aug 02 07:29:53 mph has no beer Aug 02 07:30:02 but thinks that some apple cider would go well Aug 02 07:30:15 hmm cider isn't bad Aug 02 07:30:20 hard cider? Aug 02 07:38:56 mranostay: wazzup punk? Aug 02 08:05:50 morn' Aug 02 08:19:13 morn Aug 02 08:45:12 Hi. Has anyone had any luck getting performance counter interrupts to fire on a beaglebone? Aug 02 08:46:07 I can't see what interrupt the System Control Coprocessor is connected to. Aug 02 08:54:14 what is the JTAG pinout of the BBB? Aug 02 08:54:28 (asking because iirc TI has a slightly different pinout than standard ARM) Aug 02 08:57:00 nvm. http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardJTAG Aug 02 08:59:31 so ... most of the pinmux stuff is supposed to done it the approbiate arch/arm/boot/dts/*.dtsi .. where can i find the correct pin values für i2c1 ? or all the others .. like seen in am335xx-bone-common.dtsi -> 0x18c /*i2c0_scl */ etc Aug 02 09:08:17 hi i have a beaglebone and it has stopped working. i had it plugged into my PC via USB and was connected to it via USB, then it just disconnected and stopped working. it was in the middle of compiling code then nothing. when i plug it in via usb the pwr led flashes once and thats it, its not even recognised in windows. how can i fix it? Aug 02 09:22:45 metal_patient: try with a different microSD card Aug 02 09:24:01 i have tried a different sd card, still the same Aug 02 09:24:58 metal_patient: try connecting it to a proper power supply Aug 02 09:25:17 also does the serial port become visible? Aug 02 09:32:08 damn, i guess i just bricked my beaglebone :( no idea how or why, but when i plug power in (5v header), the power led flashes for a short moment and then turns off Aug 02 09:36:41 using the 5V jack doesnt make a difference Aug 02 09:39:58 can i test, if a regulator chip shuts down or something like that? Aug 02 09:40:59 dm8tbr: when you say does the serial port become visible do you been seen in windows? if so it does not Aug 02 09:42:40 Rotti: circumstances? BBW or BBB? Aug 02 09:43:07 bbw Aug 02 09:43:45 dm8tbr: i designed a cape which has a 5v switching regulator, powered by this through vdd_5v Aug 02 09:47:14 the only thing i could imagine is that i short circuited the power supply for a moment, but that's still unlikely Aug 02 09:47:31 I'd check the schematics Aug 02 09:47:45 metal_patient: does the device show up at all under linux? Aug 02 09:49:14 rob_w: the hex values for pin muxing can be deciphered from the am335x technical reference manual Aug 02 09:49:56 jackmitchell, i trying to locate the correct manual .. Aug 02 09:50:00 with no luck sofar Aug 02 09:50:18 rob_w: http://www.ti.com/litv/pdf/spruh73h Aug 02 09:50:49 checking thx Aug 02 09:53:16 rob_w: they're a bit tough to find, if you look on page 757 and scroll down to the 804h offset Aug 02 09:53:32 that's where the pin muxing control registers are Aug 02 09:53:49 and the value you see in the DT are those values - 0x800 Aug 02 09:56:26 so my new value is basicly the offset to 0x800 Aug 02 09:56:35 correct Aug 02 09:56:43 wow thankx alot dude ,, Aug 02 09:56:56 * rob_w notes down one beer for jackmitchell Aug 02 09:58:05 bord was working now dont Aug 02 09:58:16 did you break it? Aug 02 09:59:03 the beaglebone does not show up at all under linux Aug 02 09:59:46 metal_patient: white or black? Aug 02 09:59:58 no acts like for got how to run 4 hours old black Aug 02 10:00:26 jackmitchell, just to be correct .. i am looking for spi0_cs0 into Mode2 .. hence the value is 0x95C - 0x800 = 0x15c Aug 02 10:00:36 rob_w: that sounds right Aug 02 10:00:40 great Aug 02 10:01:44 rob_w: in the DT the second set of hex numbers define the pullups/mode Aug 02 10:02:04 i dont have clue what up Aug 02 10:02:07 rob_w: so that sounds a bit wrong actually Aug 02 10:02:18 here is my spi0)cs0 line Aug 02 10:02:27 0x19c 0x13 /* mcasp0_ahclkr.spi1_cs0, OUTPUT_PULLUP | MODE3 */ Aug 02 10:02:43 ah sorry, that is spi1, not spi0 Aug 02 10:03:07 no i do want a i2c1_scl + i2c1_sda .. from bbb header P9-17 + P9-18 Aug 02 10:03:27 white Aug 02 10:03:39 those have as Mode0 spi0_cs0 + spi0_d1 Aug 02 10:03:58 metal_patient: then you should get a device /dev/ttyUSBx when you plug the beaglebone white in, on linux Aug 02 10:04:04 f.e i plant to do 0x158 0x72 /* spi0_d1.i2c0_sda, SLEWCTRL_SLOW | INPUT_PULLUP | MODE2 */ Aug 02 10:04:26 rob_w: ok, well you will need to change the mode, but the pin offset stays the same Aug 02 10:04:59 ah sorry Aug 02 10:05:06 my line had flase comments Aug 02 10:05:14 0x158 0x72 /* spi0_d1.i2c1_sda, SLEWCTRL_SLOW | INPUT_PULLUP | MODE2 */ Aug 02 10:05:34 so that is pin at offset 0x158, in mode 2 Aug 02 10:05:39 yep Aug 02 10:05:44 to gain i2c1 Aug 02 10:06:06 if i2c1 is mode 2, then that looks correct Aug 02 10:06:19 yeah .. i will try that .. thx very much .. Aug 02 10:06:48 and all this as my stupid cape designer collegeue did put our cape eeprom on i2c1 rather then i2c2 M;.) Aug 02 10:08:30 the patent cant start up bbb any more lost its driver and wont fix Aug 02 10:09:02 patent? Aug 02 10:09:27 dont ? Aug 02 10:09:42 could be Aug 02 10:10:02 it's like another dimension in here sometimes Aug 02 10:12:03 ok so im a biginer and this bord has ben hacked bye a pro ass hole stoping me so whats up with thaAt bull shit Aug 02 10:12:37 maybe you should consider to start making sense Aug 02 10:12:40 if you are able Aug 02 10:13:56 the beaglebone does not appear as a device, there are no /dev/ttyUSBx devices connected Aug 02 10:14:05 nor should there be Aug 02 10:14:24 metal_patient: does it show up in 'lsusb'? Aug 02 10:14:35 check for ttyACM0 Aug 02 10:15:06 does the ftdi in the white also do ttyACM? Aug 02 10:15:16 no Aug 02 10:15:44 ok, so metal_patient should see ttyUSBx after connecting his BBW Aug 02 10:16:09 oh, it's a white? Aug 02 10:16:10 thanks metal rules cord may have broke il see Aug 02 10:16:19 hardly anyone asks about whites any more Aug 02 10:16:40 fkin racists Aug 02 10:17:42 it does not show up in lsusb Aug 02 10:17:53 yea Aug 02 10:19:53 ah, friday. Aug 02 10:19:57 metal_patient: sounds dead to me Aug 02 10:20:32 no lights + not shown in lsusb + proper power supply, doesn't sound good Aug 02 10:21:55 Hello everyone. Aug 02 10:23:13 well that sucks. thanks for your help Aug 02 10:23:32 Quick question @ everyone. Has anyone come up with a solution for BB-B in regards to connecting a mouse, k/b and wireless adapter without using a powered hub? Aug 02 10:24:17 MarcusVin: plug in the wireless adapter, connect over VNC, mouse + k/b + wireless adapter; next! Aug 02 10:24:57 wehen i go too 192.168.72 page wont load and bbb is sick Aug 02 10:25:36 MarcusVin: alternatively, get one of those keyboard + mouse trackpad combos Aug 02 10:26:22 jackmitchell, thanks. But then how would I plug in my wireless adapter? Aug 02 10:26:42 loaded drivers and wont fix Aug 02 10:27:26 MarcusVin: hmm, I forgot it only had one usb port, I stick with my original staement then, or maybe you could get a keyboard with usb ports on which extend it, don't know if the beagle could power all that though Aug 02 10:27:30 use a non-powered hub Aug 02 10:27:52 might work Aug 02 10:27:54 might not Aug 02 10:28:12 jackmitchell thanks ofr the advice. Aug 02 10:28:14 for* Aug 02 10:28:31 MarcusVin: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Low-profile-ASK5000WH-USB-wired-Keyboard-with-2-USB-Ports-compatible-with-Win-7-/310541047897 Aug 02 10:28:39 something like that maybe Aug 02 10:31:03 is it possible to boot a bbb from a sd card with a kernel 3.8.5 from a bbw? Aug 02 10:31:56 shows up now but steps wont turn green? Aug 02 10:31:59 ? Aug 02 10:32:20 jackmitchell, thank you very much mate. That looks very promising. Aug 02 10:33:07 MarcusVin: as I say, it may work; but I don't know if the beagle will have the juice, make sure you power it from a real power supply and not a usb port Aug 02 10:33:26 going to try re boot all Aug 02 10:33:30 *the beagle, not the keyboard Aug 02 10:34:27 jackmitchell, okay. Thanks for the advice. Aug 02 11:03:18 thanks meatal peap 2 mind made eazy to fix Aug 02 11:05:50 spaking of difrent worlds what being made Aug 02 11:14:18 to the chat boss will try to be be better next time i was hacked did not like it thanks k Aug 02 11:17:11 \o I was wondering if anyone is running the PowerVR OpenGL-ES demos with X.org using the omapdrm driver Aug 02 11:17:21 on an omap3530 device that is Aug 02 11:22:19 Checkout http://github.com/vmolsa/lib-bbb Aug 02 11:28:57 im looking up multichannel audio stuff, and i see a lot of capture threads, but no transmitting threads. anyone have information on sending DTS encoded audio with mcasp? Aug 02 11:29:18 sending it as dts? Aug 02 11:29:28 well, over spdif Aug 02 11:29:49 but yeah, multichannel(>2) audio data Aug 02 11:30:05 if it's encoded the number of channels is irrelevant Aug 02 11:30:14 there are spi-attached spdif transmitters Aug 02 11:30:17 and receivers Aug 02 11:31:40 spi attached spdif reciever? Aug 02 11:32:13 the beagle has spi interfaces Aug 02 11:32:23 there are chips to convert that to spdif Aug 02 11:33:06 but standard spdif is stereo only Aug 02 11:33:20 for pcm yes Aug 02 11:33:34 if you send a dts-encoded stream it doesn't care Aug 02 11:33:40 as long as it fits within the bitrate Aug 02 11:33:56 you've got about 1.5Mbps Aug 02 11:34:30 the mcasp cant handel that? id like to avoid adding circuits as much as possible Aug 02 11:34:54 you can even take a dts stream and pretend it's stereo pcm Aug 02 11:35:01 most av receivers will do the right thing Aug 02 11:35:47 at my current knowledge level, that sounds like voodoo to me Aug 02 11:36:29 oh, the msasp has spdif support built in Aug 02 11:37:19 you'll probably still need some kind of external line driver Aug 02 11:37:53 i did find this in my searches http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/digital-source/214154-beaglebone-digital-source.html#post3088562 Aug 02 11:38:12 what do you intend to connect it to? Aug 02 11:38:31 home theater hifis Aug 02 11:38:47 its for show audio in a hunted house Aug 02 11:38:50 then you can probably get away with treating is as plain old stereo pcm Aug 02 11:39:03 so essentually multizone audio Aug 02 11:41:08 the other thin i have to figure out is playing back a DTS encoded file through those interfaces Aug 02 11:41:21 * flufmnstr isnt hip on linux sound Aug 02 11:41:29 can you play pcm audio? Aug 02 11:41:33 like a wav file Aug 02 11:42:11 havnt tried yet. mostly been researching sending multichannel data Aug 02 11:42:31 but, if i follow, if it does normal pcm, itll handel the DTS stuff? Aug 02 11:43:15 it should Aug 02 11:43:27 why not just use some standard ethernet streaming architecture? Aug 02 11:44:02 because you lost me at ethernet streaming architecture Aug 02 11:44:39 i mean, we have lots of solutions to stream audio through ethernet. Aug 02 11:44:50 we have lots of clients. Aug 02 11:45:17 i havent the slightest on how that system works Aug 02 11:45:17 put a client onto the desired receiver, have it sent to output. Aug 02 11:45:41 no additional hardware tinkering needed. Aug 02 11:46:04 my whole problem is i have little to no idea how take a audio file form the BB and get it to as many speakers as it can handle Aug 02 11:46:21 huh Aug 02 11:46:32 *with as little intermediat hardware as possible Aug 02 11:46:54 hdmi cable to av receiver? Aug 02 11:47:13 you have 1(!!!) audio file with x channels that you want to send out to x+y speakers? Aug 02 11:47:44 buy a cheap usb sound interface that can handle at least x outputs. Aug 02 11:47:46 done. Aug 02 11:48:38 thats the fall back. id rather find out if i can do it with $1.50 worth of parts and an hour of soldering Aug 02 11:48:40 flufmnstr: it's still a bit unclear exactly what you want Aug 02 11:48:48 flufmnstr: you cannot. Aug 02 11:49:12 LetoThe2nd: do you mean it's impossible or that _he_ can't do it? Aug 02 11:49:18 mru: both. Aug 02 11:49:42 how can you say it's impossible when it's not clear what he's trying to do? Aug 02 11:50:13 i'm certain that no homebrew solution is able to beat a cheap chinese usb output in price AND simplicity, at least not for remotely sane values of X (as in X channels) Aug 02 11:50:13 multichannel audio file on BBBlack->[internal audio canoodeling]->wire->home hifi(5.1/7.1) Aug 02 11:50:41 uh, there's an hdmi output on the bone... Aug 02 11:50:50 or to DACs that output line level that i can run into an amp Aug 02 11:51:03 does your hifi have hdmi input? Aug 02 11:51:12 so I soldered the JTAG, see https://docs.google.com/file/d/0ByHQWL5Q6bSwckNVUW5WRVNnaWs/edit?usp=sharing Aug 02 11:51:29 however it seems openocd 0.7 doesn't have a cfg file for the BBB: Aug 02 11:51:29 its the internal audio anoodeling im lost on Aug 02 11:51:40 Error: JTAG tap: omap3530.jrc expected 1 of 1: 0x0b7ae02f (mfg: 0x017, part: 0xb7ae, ver: 0x0) Aug 02 11:52:03 once i have a line, any line, giving me the digital stream i can handel it from there Aug 02 11:52:05 has anyone written a config file for it? (I assume it would be very similar to the BBW without the ftdi) Aug 02 11:52:15 Quick question to anyone, Has anyone got flash player working on BB-B and what browser/plugins are you using? Aug 02 11:52:25 MarcusVin: don't even try Aug 02 11:52:37 8supposing its in a common format most DACs or home hifis can use Aug 02 11:52:54 flufmnstr: hdmi is common... Aug 02 11:52:59 DOES YOUR HIFI HAVE HDMI? Aug 02 11:53:04 flufmnstr: you are so totally running into the "i want to have it complicated" direction. Aug 02 11:53:08 unrelated question: can the BBB output audio through HDMI? Aug 02 11:53:13 cde: yes Aug 02 11:53:23 and it's very related Aug 02 11:54:17 well since im looking for a digital signal itsd be pretty stupid of me not to use a reciever that cant recieve digital audio.... Aug 02 11:54:37 so yes. any reciever i use will have digital audio in of some sort. either coax or HDMI Aug 02 11:54:42 mru: your bait. Aug 02 11:55:07 so use hdmi Aug 02 11:55:13 since the bone has that output already Aug 02 11:55:18 all you need is a cable Aug 02 11:56:06 ok, just needed to comment out the ftdi stuff in beaglebone.cfg Aug 02 11:56:09 that tops me out at either 6 or 8 channel(5.1/7.1). cant the bone do more? Aug 02 11:56:27 I do have some "JTAG-DP STICKY ERROR" but it's otherwise working, w00t Aug 02 11:56:35 mru, That bad eh? Aug 02 11:56:44 MarcusVin: it's flash... Aug 02 11:57:02 or is that just a limitation of the hifi its plugged into? Aug 02 11:58:35 if you need more than 7.1 your best bet is probably some usb sound device with more outputs Aug 02 11:59:10 it jsut seems like a waste with the mcasp available Aug 02 11:59:37 do you want something that works, or do you want to tinker? Aug 02 11:59:58 with the HDMI im fine with tinkering for something larger Aug 02 12:00:18 how many channels do you need? Aug 02 12:01:25 not sure yet. but i dont mind taking on that project Aug 02 12:01:41 mru, is there any browsers that will run fairly steadily with html5 + javascript support please? Aug 02 12:01:44 id rather have them available and not use all of them than not have them and need them in the future Aug 02 12:01:48 maybe you should get your requirements nailed down before looking for solutions Aug 02 12:02:08 MarcusVin: the usual ones Aug 02 12:02:28 mru Thanks mate. Aug 02 12:02:42 Does somebody know how to use the BBB with matlab? Aug 02 12:02:57 luis___: that's a rather vague question Aug 02 12:03:24 well lets say no more than 16 channels, 48k 96kbs Aug 02 12:03:25 why? Aug 02 12:03:44 because it's not specific Aug 02 12:04:07 flufmnstr: and these channels, do they need to be synchronised? Aug 02 12:04:22 96 what? Aug 02 12:04:27 I mean how to program the beaglebone Black using matlab, and see what's going on during the program Aug 02 12:04:45 do you want to run matlab on the bone? Aug 02 12:05:19 id like to have channel 'groups'. some for main show audio, others for constant ambiant. though i could just put an all ambiant track on the ambiant channels Aug 02 12:05:52 id also like to be abel to control the volume of each channel, but i dont know if you can do that over a digital stream Aug 02 12:05:56 umm not exactly, I just want to program in matlab, something like the cloudIDE9 Aug 02 12:06:15 or the bonescriptlibrary Aug 02 12:06:26 you're not making sense Aug 02 12:07:04 why? Aug 02 12:07:16 but i have no idea what to even read up on to figure that stuff out Aug 02 12:07:27 now you're making even less sense Aug 02 12:08:09 mru: who are you talking to? Aug 02 12:09:01 ok .. my cape eeprom is now tobe read .. any nice cmdline tool to write to a eeprom ? Aug 02 12:09:40 it is most definitely Friday in here! Aug 02 12:09:44 rob_w, just write to the eeprom file in the devices' sys directory Aug 02 12:55:52 cde: http://elinux.org/OpenOCD_Troubleshooting:_JTAG_Sticky_Error Aug 02 12:56:29 cde: it's inoccuous though, so that's really just an fyi Aug 02 13:02:48 why would i get a bone-capemgr bone_capemgr.9: slot #5: Failed to resolve tree Aug 02 13:02:54 type of errors ? Aug 02 13:03:20 not valid dtbo Aug 02 13:03:29 thanks, wmat Aug 02 13:03:31 probably you didn't compile it properly Aug 02 13:03:47 so far I have to say I'm 100% satisfied with my BBB. also Angstrom is finally not bad at all Aug 02 13:04:16 panto, but my kernel would compile it ? Aug 02 13:05:00 first of all, what is the dtbo you're trying to load Aug 02 13:06:19 its my own, yet also the standard ones .. like cape-boneblack-hdmi-00A0.dtbo etc give me the same error Aug 02 13:06:56 I am most definitely not 100% satisfied with my BBB. Aug 02 13:07:00 As I haven't bought one yet Aug 02 13:07:01 pastebin /proc/device-tree on the device Aug 02 13:07:59 cat or what ? Aug 02 13:09:52 http://pastebin.com/zhpBUcBA Aug 02 13:10:57 you're missing the reference resolution nodes Aug 02 13:11:05 you didn't compile the base dts with -@ Aug 02 13:11:37 the am335x-boneblack.dtb ? Aug 02 13:11:50 uhm... some problems with a cape i built... i wrote some information into the eeprom so the drivers get loaded at boot time... Aug 02 13:12:11 echo cape.. > ...capemgr... works fine, now i get a segfault at boot Aug 02 13:12:14 panto, which dts are you reffering to ? Aug 02 13:13:33 [ 11.047836] BUG: spinlock lockup suspected on CPU#0, swapper/0/1 [ 11.054132] lock: 0xcf103c6c, .magic: dead4ead, .owner: capemgr-loader-/53, .owner_cpu: 0 <-- these are the last messages Aug 02 13:15:07 the one you use to boot from (uImage-dtb.am335x-boneblack) Aug 02 13:15:09 err, Aug 02 13:15:17 am335x-boneblack.dtb Aug 02 13:15:53 well i am building a uImage and the dtb spearate .. Aug 02 13:15:59 and let uboot load them separate Aug 02 13:16:27 right, but you're not building the dtb correctly Aug 02 13:16:31 do i need to specifcy a -@ parameter at the dtb compile ? Aug 02 13:16:37 yes you do Aug 02 13:16:50 make -j4 ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-poky-linux-gnueabi- am335x-boneblack.dtb Aug 02 13:17:10 are you using the patched dtc? Aug 02 13:17:23 i did some changes yes Aug 02 13:17:26 you need the dtc patches that enable dynamic loading Aug 02 13:17:40 ok, you're using yocto it seems Aug 02 13:17:55 although my changes might be not needed Aug 02 13:18:08 so my guess is you're not compiling the dtb(s) properly Aug 02 13:18:24 use make ..V=1 and filter out until you find the dtc invocation Aug 02 13:18:40 the others might fail as they where compile from me .. Aug 02 13:19:09 i just copied them over .. hence they might not been build be the same compiler version . .. but mine and the base dtb are Aug 02 13:20:01 is see the dtc call Aug 02 13:21:22 but it looks sane to me Aug 02 13:23:09 hi guys. i am using bbxm ubuntu 12.04 kernel 3.7.10-x10+ . Is it possible to change the operating voltage at each frequency? e.g. at 300MHz doing `cat /sys/kernel/debug/regulator/vdd_mpu_iva/cpu0-vcc/max_uV` reports 1053000 and `min_uV` reports `972000`. Aug 02 13:24:04 rob_w, does it have a -@ option in it? Aug 02 13:24:09 it has nothing to do with sanity Aug 02 13:24:35 Can I run at 300MHz at 97000? I want to test reliability issues Aug 02 13:25:12 panto, nope Aug 02 13:25:25 there's your problem Aug 02 13:25:51 data/Kunden/MIBTEC/Hardware/mibtec-kernels/scripts/dtc/dtc -O dtb -o arch/arm/boot/dts/am335x-boneblack.dtb -b 0 -d arch/arm/boot/dts/.am335x-boneblack.dtb.d arch/arm/boot/dts/am335x-boneblack.dts Aug 02 13:26:06 hmm ok Aug 02 13:27:30 so you saying my kernel Makefile is missing the -@ param to the dtc .. Aug 02 13:28:10 you're probably missing the patches for dtc too Aug 02 13:28:25 I have no idea where your kernel cames from Aug 02 13:28:55 if you're rolling your own, you have to pick up the patches that are needed for the cape support Aug 02 13:29:27 got ya Aug 02 13:29:47 i might have a older version .. Aug 02 13:30:00 but basicly pulled the angstrom patches etc Aug 02 13:30:24 seems like you missed a few Aug 02 13:32:42 using -@.. i am getting somewhere now Aug 02 13:32:55 thx very much Aug 02 13:32:59 np Aug 02 13:33:22 oout of curiosity .. witll my cape dts also need the -@ param ? Aug 02 13:33:55 Hi all Aug 02 13:35:15 rob_w, yes Aug 02 13:35:43 funny .. that call has it in already Aug 02 14:41:08 Anyone got links to running the BBB without linux? Aug 02 14:42:52 why would anyone do that? Aug 02 14:43:04 well, linux sux Aug 02 14:44:10 dogmatic69: running DOS on it? Aug 02 14:44:21 starterware! Aug 02 14:44:37 Well, scheduling has overhead. Perhaps someone wants to use the BB as a faster Arduino. :-P Aug 02 14:44:51 and use all the power the CPU can give Aug 02 14:45:32 dogmatic69, there's two perfectly fine cores on the bone that you can use to run stuff without an OS Aug 02 14:45:38 in fact you're encouraged to do so Aug 02 14:46:01 but trust me, you don't want to program that kind of SoCs bare metal Aug 02 14:46:02 PRU! Aug 02 14:46:30 panto: unless dogmatic69 has too much time Aug 02 14:46:57 not enough time in the world for that Aug 02 14:47:49 lol Aug 02 14:49:28 the am335x manual is what? more that 3K pages? Aug 02 14:49:46 imagine having to write drivers for all that stuff... from scratch Aug 02 14:49:54 4k5 Aug 02 14:50:03 I stand corrected Aug 02 14:50:09 panto, and really only includes stuff specific to the am335x Aug 02 14:50:11 is more than 3 Aug 02 14:50:20 don't forget the arm arm and the a8 manual Aug 02 14:50:30 yeah, and the crypto addendum, etc... Aug 02 14:50:36 *if you can get it Aug 02 14:51:11 now, for extra bonus points, if your sole reason to go bare metal is to have an app that it's not open source Aug 02 14:51:21 hi all Aug 02 14:51:27 that means you can't copy the linux driver source since that's gpl Aug 02 14:51:42 so yeah, good luck with that Aug 02 14:51:47 but you _can_ run closed source userspace on linux Aug 02 14:52:12 panto: well, maybe if you don't need much more than single task with few peripherals... Aug 02 14:52:33 kfoltman, ever hear about feature creep? Aug 02 14:52:55 before long people will go, "well, we have a usb controller, why don't we use it" Aug 02 14:53:16 i would like to ask all of you if you've experienced power problem on beaglebone white versions Aug 02 14:53:16 "we have an ethernet controller, let's run IP on it; just UDP will do" Aug 02 14:53:34 panto: you need to fight feature creep anyway, but yes, USB host from scratch is a good way to end up in an asylum Aug 02 14:53:40 a few months later "we're getting killed, our main competitor has TCP/IP" Aug 02 14:53:50 kfoltman, oh yes Aug 02 14:54:01 you can always 'borrow' some BSD code for TCP/IP :P Aug 02 14:54:17 kfoltman, I know, I've done it, got the t-shirt Aug 02 14:54:39 in case of USB, the t-shirt you're supposed to get is a strait jacket Aug 02 14:54:49 but even after a couple of years, I never have found enough time to put simple things like a telnet server Aug 02 14:55:12 cause then you have to re-invent the whole networking application stack Aug 02 14:55:22 (www, ssh, dhcp, etc...) Aug 02 14:55:27 there's no end in sight Aug 02 14:57:35 meh.. does this still hold true for 3.8? http://osdir.com/ml/beagleboard/2012-02/msg01486.html Aug 02 15:00:24 LetoThe2nd: fwiw, the in-kernel 8192 driver works fine with my wifi dongle Aug 02 15:00:51 koen: heh, didn't mean the dongle but the headers issue Aug 02 15:01:02 it's vendor code Aug 02 15:01:05 of course it's *$(*$( broken Aug 02 15:01:14 for my demo case i of course need to build modules in-target Aug 02 15:03:28 koen: can you reach rcn? as his build_deb script seems to be broken Aug 02 15:04:03 I don't use ubuntu Aug 02 15:04:21 koen: thats why i wondered that you responded Aug 02 15:04:43 LetoThe2nd: with the stock install you can just do 'opkg install kernel-dev' to get the sources to build modules against Aug 02 15:05:12 koen: *noted* totally an option, yes. Aug 02 15:29:18 I have a BeagleBone (not Black). I’m running http://rcn-ee.net/deb/rootfs/wheezy/debian-7.1-console-armhf-2013-07-22.tar.xz with Linux arm 3.8.13-bone24. The realtime clock is running about 20–25 % too fast, i think. adjtimex -c5 suggests a tick of 7999 but that’s outside the allowed range of 9000–11000. I guess i already have the u-boot patch mentioned in Aug 02 15:29:20 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/beagleboard/j4fdat3Bj04 last year. I wonder how to fix the problem? The dmesg: https://gist.github.com/ion1/6a7c9b5894a4cb7d097a Aug 02 15:37:45 that's pretty far out of wack. I'm not seeing the same behavior on Angstrom. Does it change with CPU load? Do you know if the kernel is using the on-board RTC? Aug 02 15:38:01 * jkridner sees it registered in dmesg Aug 02 15:41:11 was ist das? einen german texan? Aug 02 15:41:33 truly, a plague upon the land. Aug 02 16:23:48 jkridner: The clock rate seems to be off by a constant amount, the suggested tick from adjtimex is always 7999. Aug 02 16:24:03 k Aug 02 16:55:08 <_SY_> hello Aug 02 18:26:40 Hi, does somebody know how to program the BBBlack using Matlab program in windows? Aug 02 18:27:07 the question still makes no sense Aug 02 18:28:52 I installed the target on matlab but know I don't know how to follow, how to install the library on matlab to program the beagle from there Aug 02 18:40:32 TIL: Matlab +BBB Aug 02 18:43:44 mannyb: what do you mean with TIL: Matlab +BBB ? Aug 02 18:45:49 Today I Learned: Matlab + BeagleBone Black. Aug 02 18:46:12 agmlego: nice Aug 02 18:49:11 jkridner: What? Aug 02 18:49:32 did you learn how to use Matlab with BeagleBone Black? Aug 02 18:49:38 * jkridner reads scrollback Aug 02 18:50:19 I didn't know there's even a ARM version of matlab Aug 02 18:50:28 I don't think there is Aug 02 18:51:21 probably this kind of setup: http://www.mathworks.com/hardware-support/beagleboard.html Aug 02 18:51:39 jkridner: Uh, no. I was just expanding what mannyb_ said for luis__. Aug 02 18:51:48 http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/answers/41975-matlab-and-simulink-on-beagle-bone Aug 02 18:51:55 Because common Internet TLAs apparently do not translate. Aug 02 18:52:00 ah... TIL = Aug 02 19:04:59 any good DAC I could use with the BBB? Aug 02 19:08:07 Sure, lots of them. Aug 02 19:08:13 Look at Analog Devices and Maxim. Aug 02 19:08:33 thx bro Aug 02 19:08:48 No problem. Aug 02 19:15:30 Error: DSCR_DTR_RX_FULL, dscr 0x4b070002 Aug 02 19:15:40 jtag seems to work fine though Aug 02 19:16:12 is it normal that when jtag is plugged into the flyswatter, the board won't boot until I enter resume in the openocd console? Aug 02 19:18:27 cde isn't the whole point of jtag to interrupt at a very low level? Aug 02 19:19:24 it would seem normal to me, but I'm not an expert on the subject Aug 02 19:20:10 yes, I guess so. it's in fact useful Aug 02 19:27:53 I have a question about AM335x interrupt... Aug 02 19:28:08 topic Aug 02 19:29:00 I was reading and checking some examples about PRU assembly code and every interrupt was handled by pooling Aug 02 19:29:40 It's not possible to make the PRU jump to a routine instead of make it pooling loop??? Aug 02 19:30:33 no Aug 02 19:30:43 I was figured out that interrupt is a kind of hardware jump... Aug 02 19:30:44 there is nothing wrong with the pru polling Aug 02 19:30:59 polling is the best way anyway Aug 02 19:31:19 that would make the PRU overally complex Aug 02 19:31:27 I am no saing it's wrong, I am just saing that this is not exactly the concept of interrupt... Aug 02 19:31:36 polling ftw! Aug 02 19:31:58 what can't I read the bootrom over 0x40000000 Aug 02 19:32:07 That is fine. I will stop to try to find where is the interrupt vector table... Aug 02 19:37:41 is it required to have the data cache enabled for the mdb command to succeed in openocd? Aug 02 19:37:50 cool! systemd accepted my patch I guess I can be considered an accomplice now. maybe me and lennart can hang out now and talk about Node.js and other rockstar things now. Aug 02 19:38:58 anyone know about a SSD1306 driver written in C++ for beaglebone black? Aug 02 19:41:02 Maxz, ok, a, it's i2c, you don't need a specific driver for any platform Aug 02 19:41:15 b, linux device drivers aren't written in c++ Aug 02 19:41:25 unless you use the userspace i2c interface Aug 02 19:41:29 I don't ask for a linux driver Aug 02 19:41:37 yeah i need a userspace driver Aug 02 19:41:53 userspace drivers are for newbs Aug 02 19:42:17 ok your highness georgem Aug 02 19:42:28 Maxz: I'm just kidding Aug 02 19:42:58 hmmm..wait, is it spi or i2c, I'm confused Aug 02 19:43:50 i2c Aug 02 19:44:40 it should be pretty easy to modify this to use the linux userspace i2c interface https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_SSD1306/blob/master/Adafruit_SSD1306.cpp Aug 02 19:45:49 raspberry pi toiletcam.. classy.. Aug 02 19:46:02 ha Aug 02 19:48:38 Russ: :D thanks man :) Aug 02 19:50:12 mranostay: sounds rather more pervy to me Aug 02 19:51:16 mranostay: and who has one of those? Aug 02 19:51:49 see adafruit g+ page Aug 02 19:56:32 nice article on DT btw Aug 02 19:59:02 mranostay: you just gave me an idea Aug 02 19:59:10 mount a fake camera in the bathroom Aug 02 19:59:15 just to freak out guests Aug 02 20:02:00 Great fun until someone calls the cops. Aug 02 20:02:14 let them come Aug 02 20:06:50 can I alter SYSBOOT on my BBB? Aug 02 20:07:11 yes, press the boot button Aug 02 20:08:19 very cool. btw hw bp work @ 402F0400 Aug 02 20:08:40 allow debugging the bootloader, nice Aug 02 20:08:53 mranostay: btw, do you have one of these? http://www.bellacasadubai.com/nivo-slider/demo/images/26.png Aug 02 20:14:37 hmm so actually SYSBOOT has 16 configuration pins, and [0:4] set the boot devince Aug 02 20:18:18 check the schematic, I think they are available Aug 02 20:18:54 but really, the boot rom is pretty smart about getting a boot device, I'm doubtful that you'd need to mess with sysboot Aug 02 20:18:57 yes. I'm considering altering them or "bricking" (so to speak) the mmc to force uart boot Aug 02 20:19:16 btw, is gerald on this channel? Aug 02 20:19:34 uart boot sounds fun Aug 02 20:20:13 cde, you don't need to do much, you just need to delete the spl file Aug 02 20:20:16 I was thinking writing the bootloader in memory over jtag however for some reason memory read/write doesn't seem to write at boot time Aug 02 20:20:23 thanks Russ Aug 02 20:20:41 (MLO) Aug 02 20:21:32 hmm, my hw bp survive a reset, that's cool Aug 02 20:24:24 alright it now keeps displaying C over the uart, I guess it worked Aug 02 20:27:31 btw, can I use this cable? https://www.adafruit.com/products/70 afraid the 5V pin could damage the BBB Aug 02 20:28:18 the only pins that are wired in are tx, rx, and gnd Aug 02 20:28:32 the other pins don't matter, so it'll be fine so long as tx and rx and 3.3v level Aug 02 20:28:49 thx bro Aug 02 20:31:37 need to be careful not to connect the cable the wrong way - the 5v pin would connect to the rx Aug 02 20:44:29 xmodem with sx works. but will MLO receive u-boot on uart? Aug 02 20:52:16 last git commit in x-loader was from dec 2011. is this the version used on BBB? Aug 02 20:52:35 u-boot has spl now Aug 02 20:52:40 x-loader is dead Aug 02 20:58:02 spl? Aug 02 20:58:37 a stripped-down version that only configures dram and loads the full u-boot Aug 02 20:58:55 second pass loader? Aug 02 20:59:10 no idea what it's meant to stand for Aug 02 21:01:30 but it was fast Aug 02 21:02:15 secondary program loader Aug 02 21:08:28 thanks, it is indeed the spl Aug 02 21:36:44 so it turns out the rom can't be read, since it starts in "secure mode" Aug 02 21:37:31 so I guess the main reason why spl exists is because the whole u-boot is too large to fit L2 Aug 02 21:37:49 not quite Aug 02 21:37:54 it's too large for the onchip sram Aug 02 21:38:33 which is 64 KB right? but MLO is 99904 bytes Aug 02 21:40:12 wow, angstrom oebb likes to recompile every possible package it seems Aug 02 21:40:20 and I just wanted to recompile u-boot :( Aug 02 21:42:34 I always build u-boot and kernel separately Aug 02 21:45:48 is it possible to have the beaglebone black boot from uSD by default? Aug 02 21:48:39 the docs say to boot from uSD you have to hold down the USER/BOOT button -- would i have to short this switch, or is there a better way? Aug 02 21:49:18 erase the loader from emmc Aug 02 21:53:29 wioux: afaik it does boot by default on uSD Aug 02 21:54:07 it does boot from uSD if it can Aug 02 21:57:24 so the sequence is (1) check for bootable uSD (2) check for bootable emmc? Aug 02 21:58:04 change the resistors Aug 02 21:58:07 and the USER/BOOT button is just for flashing the emmc? Aug 02 22:01:29 up (sysBoot[3] = 1): MMC1 (eMMC), MMC0 (SD card), UART0, USB0 (note5) Aug 02 22:01:30 down ( [3] = 0): SPI0 (UART2), MMC0 (SD card), USB0 (note5), UART0 Aug 02 22:01:46 1 is BOOT pressed Aug 02 22:03:32 can I tell oebb to use more than one cpu? Aug 02 22:04:07 alright.. thanks everyone for the info Aug 02 22:11:18 so to clear the emmc flash do i just insert an unbootable uSD card and hold down the button? Aug 02 22:12:25 wioux: not sure to understand what you are trying to do Aug 02 22:16:29 sorry. boot my beaglebone black from the microSD card, without having to hold the BOOT button Aug 02 22:16:53 . from what I understand, if the BOOT button is NOT pressed, the boot order is MMC1 (eMMC onboard flash), MMC0 (SD card), UART0, USB0 Aug 02 22:17:27 no, that's the other way around (I think) Aug 02 22:17:28 so i would like to clear the MMC1 on board flash, so that it always falls back to the MMC0 microSD Aug 02 22:17:58 i googled the order you gave me and came upon https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/beagleboard/pDr_rLDYqy4/JNK-Xkm_ms0J Aug 02 22:18:30 which suggests that its the other way around Aug 02 22:20:16 possibly. you might have to check it yourself Aug 02 22:20:47 hmm. what is the bitbake recipe name for MLO? Aug 02 22:21:59 will do, just thought i'd check -- thanks again in any case Aug 02 22:25:28 I guess I'll just build the whole systemd-image Aug 02 22:28:21 has someone made a collection of all possibel device tree overlays for the bbb? Aug 02 22:28:29 so we can just say "hey, set this pin to this mode" Aug 02 22:28:56 that would be pretty awesome for developers/non-cape users. Aug 02 22:50:01 there is a tester cape which would be close to that i guess Aug 02 22:51:04 kia ora Aug 02 22:56:38 pru_evtout_2: already done Aug 02 23:02:00 mrpackethead: http://torrentfreak.com/movie-banned-by-censors-becomes-a-piracy-hit-with-kiwis-130725/ Aug 02 23:04:38 * mranostay scratches Finland off the Europe visit list :P Aug 02 23:04:41 dm8tbr: :) Aug 02 23:04:55 mranostay: huh? Aug 02 23:04:56 mranostay: already done!? :D where? Aug 02 23:05:58 pru_evtout_2: not going :P Aug 02 23:06:08 why not? Aug 02 23:06:37 https://plus.google.com/111101795166699165422/posts/SnB8T4uiQ6Z Aug 02 23:06:54 afraid of saunas? Aug 02 23:10:03 beaglebone-demo-image will work on bbb right? Aug 02 23:22:57 mranostay: thanks Aug 02 23:23:05 sorry mru: thanks Aug 02 23:23:18 funny, when you tell people they can't have somethign Aug 02 23:26:50 * georgem_home runs in with a keg of KC Pils. Starting first two consecutive weeks off from work since he was 16 years old. Aug 02 23:27:49 * mru prefers to maintain a more open relationship with work Aug 02 23:29:18 seeing other works on the side? Aug 02 23:30:03 work with benefits Aug 02 23:30:52 For me doing stuff like submitting patches upstream is work on the side. Corporate overlords are too narrow minded to endorse such things. Aug 02 23:31:22 how about taking an afternoon off? Aug 02 23:31:50 * georgem_home doesn't understand Aug 02 23:32:22 mru: +1 Aug 02 23:32:27 if you didn't particularly fancy working on, say, a friday afternoon, what would you do? Aug 02 23:32:47 Duh, troll people here Aug 02 23:33:06 I can tell you what I'd _not_ do: work Aug 02 23:34:31 Oh... I get it... So these people that "work from home" on Friday... Aug 02 23:34:47 I "work from home" _every_ day Aug 02 23:34:55 * georgem_home face palms Aug 02 23:35:04 You win Aug 02 23:35:07 * mranostay wishes he could work from home Aug 02 23:35:19 or aka coffee shop Aug 02 23:35:51 do it properly and go to a pub/bar Aug 02 23:36:15 I'd probably get more work done in that kind of environment anyway Aug 02 23:38:50 Do you find you're productive working from home mru? Aug 02 23:39:27 when I actually work, sure :) Aug 02 23:39:28 You don't need to comment on that... Aug 02 23:39:39 :) Aug 02 23:39:59 productivity is overrated Aug 02 23:41:23 until machines replace you because they're faster and smarter Aug 02 23:42:07 * georgem_home is working hard to make those machines Aug 02 23:42:13 georgem_home: explain how Aug 02 23:42:36 * mru does not feel threatened quite yet Aug 02 23:43:01 mru: the dinosaurs didn't feel threatened either Aug 02 23:44:03 mru: no one feels threatened by a high school drop out with no university degree :D Aug 02 23:44:30 degrees are irrelevant Aug 02 23:44:38 yes Aug 02 23:44:40 at least to some degree Aug 02 23:44:49 pun +1 Aug 02 23:45:22 * cde grees with mru Aug 02 23:45:59 And to be honest I've taken 75% of the course work needed for a degree but I'm too busy working to finish it Aug 02 23:51:47 Back to the subject of robots, automation, etc. Why hasn't the western world's automated manufacturing efficiency surpassed the East's cheap labor. I think we need to try harder. Aug 02 23:52:50 please... would the day machines can replacement come quicker Aug 02 23:53:16 georgem_home: or bring back child slave labour Aug 02 23:53:43 becuae the east is adpoting automation Aug 02 23:53:52 ds2: amen Aug 02 23:54:02 mrpackethead: oh, shit. yeah I guess that'd be a problem Aug 02 23:54:29 i'm putting a soldering robot into our mayalisa factory soon Aug 02 23:56:08 mrpackethead: if robots are doing the work, why put the factory in Mayalisa? Aug 02 23:56:25 georgem_home: because its still much cheaper than doing it in the "west" Aug 02 23:58:07 i'm sure Mayalisa has about zero regulations Aug 02 23:58:25 no, mayalisa is sensibly regulated Aug 03 00:06:41 regulations should be based on statistical evidence. mandating some retarded policy which increases costs by a large margin shouldn't be taken lightly Aug 03 00:07:59 so a few dead workers is okay? :) Aug 03 00:08:29 Yes. Aug 03 00:08:39 mranostay: hell, I might have a better chance of dieing in a car wreck on my way to work Aug 03 00:09:30 'machines doing the dangerous work' is nice in theory. Aug 03 00:09:48 Until you start to wonder what the people who used to do that work will do. Aug 03 00:10:02 Starvation is not better than dangerous work. Aug 03 00:10:34 SpeedEvil: sit around fishin' drinkin beer? Aug 03 00:11:44 Or... creating better machines Aug 03 00:12:48 You really think unskilled labour are suddenly going to go into the creative industries in significant numbers? Aug 03 00:14:40 Hey everyone! I just got a beaglebone black and I'm having some issues Aug 03 00:14:44 SpeedEvil: They could bring us lunch while we work :P Aug 03 00:15:01 I'm following this guide here Aug 03 00:15:02 http://learn.adafruit.com/controlling-a-servo-with-a-beaglebone-black/the-python-console Aug 03 00:15:09 to try to get a servo working Aug 03 00:15:20 SpeedEvil: Good point, I'll have to ponder that. Aug 03 00:15:28 But the board keeps dropping my SSH session Aug 03 00:15:33 I have python installed Aug 03 00:15:40 and I'm on the latest version of angstrom Aug 03 00:16:09 anyone know why it would kill the session? Aug 03 00:16:43 Interesting Aug 03 00:17:04 I'm guessing it's probably some how lennart's fault... Aug 03 00:18:30 ? Aug 03 00:18:44 Try running the process with gdb/gdbserver. If it throws some sort of fatal signal it should catch it and you'll at least know what is happening Aug 03 00:18:45 it's all lennart's fault Aug 03 00:18:57 isn't gdb part of systemd yet? Aug 03 00:19:07 it should be :P Aug 03 00:19:09 j/k Aug 03 00:20:18 run ssh through gdb? Aug 03 00:20:27 no... Aug 03 00:20:37 run gdb through ssh Aug 03 00:20:38 is gdb or gdbserver installed on the target? Aug 03 00:20:50 not unless it's installed by default Aug 03 00:20:59 the only thing i've put on is python Aug 03 00:21:09 which gdb Aug 03 00:21:27 or plain 'gdb' Aug 03 00:21:32 either it works or it doesn't Aug 03 00:21:40 yeah.. Aug 03 00:22:08 lisurgec: what distro are you running? Aug 03 00:22:15 k hold on i'm trying to get a connection Aug 03 00:23:13 it's the latest version of angstrom from the beagleboard website Aug 03 00:23:18 latest stable Aug 03 00:23:38 if gdb isn't installed try: opkg update && opkg install gdb Aug 03 00:24:45 getting this thing to boot properly at all is a pain Aug 03 00:25:00 sometimes it flat out isn't accepting a connection over SSH or HTTP Aug 03 00:25:05 i suspect the issues are related. Aug 03 00:25:35 alright gdb is up Aug 03 00:25:55 version 7.5 Aug 03 00:26:21 Not sure how it works, do I just run the server and it'll dump a log file if it crashes or something? Aug 03 00:27:43 ok. quit out it first Aug 03 00:27:58 then do: gdb python Aug 03 00:28:01 run Aug 03 00:28:58 i see Aug 03 00:29:31 then do your python stuff and see what happens Aug 03 00:30:14 so it doesn't even accept the first command through the ssh Aug 03 00:30:28 which command? Aug 03 00:30:29 no output or anything Aug 03 00:30:34 it's just importing the library Aug 03 00:30:53 and it gives an error? Aug 03 00:30:55 but it doesn't run anything Aug 03 00:30:57 no errors Aug 03 00:31:27 So I'm booting with nothing connected to the GPIO pins - and then I'm plugging in the GPIO after SSH starts Aug 03 00:31:46 because nothing connects with things plugged in Aug 03 00:31:57 and as soon as i plug it in - dead. Aug 03 00:32:15 ahhh Aug 03 00:32:16 if it matters, I'm using a GND pin and P8_13 Aug 03 00:32:39 so, this was happening before to? Aug 03 00:32:46 yessir. Aug 03 00:33:28 Do you know what mode P8_13 is configured in? I can't remember specifically which pin that is Aug 03 00:34:53 it's a GPIO Aug 03 00:39:26 >< it's actually a PWM Aug 03 00:41:45 Most pins have multiple modes and you need to use pinmux to change what they do Aug 03 00:42:45 i see. Aug 03 00:43:06 So if it were plugged into entirely the wrong pin Aug 03 00:43:17 could it potentially cause a crash like i'm experiencing? Aug 03 00:45:58 thanks for the help, btw. I'm coming from arduino so I'm kinda clueless on some of the stuff Aug 03 00:49:07 lisurgec: yes it could crash it Aug 03 00:49:49 I guess I just need to play with it some more then. Aug 03 00:49:51 thank you. Aug 03 01:48:28 hi all Aug 03 01:51:20 http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/171 Aug 03 01:57:10 mranostay: is this a long weekend in the US? Aug 03 02:09:27 it shouldn't be a holiday Aug 03 02:15:07 why Aug 03 02:15:29 not on the schedule Aug 03 02:17:29 it's a long weekend in Canada Aug 03 02:18:00 for no reason other than it's summer in Canada Aug 03 02:18:12 canada has summer? Aug 03 02:18:45 absolutely Aug 03 02:21:07 two weeks in august it climbs to a sweltering 12 degrees Aug 03 02:25:34 wheres canada? Aug 03 02:25:43 its next to mexico is'nt it Aug 03 02:25:44 :-) Aug 03 02:27:38 mrpacket_: isn't wyoming in between? Aug 03 02:27:47 lol. Aug 03 02:29:32 altium is driving me nuts Aug 03 02:29:40 get some bolts Aug 03 02:31:39 lol. Aug 03 02:31:51 the tutorials are realy making any sense Aug 03 02:33:01 tutorials are not meant to be read Aug 03 02:33:38 they are a marketing ploy Aug 03 02:37:56 help! Aug 03 02:38:22 I bought a 2A 5V barrel jack ac adapter Aug 03 02:38:35 still my android on sdcard does not boot Aug 03 02:38:42 I must be missing something Aug 03 02:49:07 wmat: nope Aug 03 02:49:17 no holidays till next month Aug 03 02:49:24 harsh Aug 03 02:49:35 yeah US sucks in holidays Aug 03 02:49:47 like legally aren't required to give you any **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Aug 03 03:00:00 2013