**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Aug 03 03:00:00 2013 Aug 03 03:03:22 mranostay: you said there were a collection of device tree overlays for all the different pins? Aug 03 03:03:35 err...all the different states of all the different pins on the bb header? Aug 03 03:03:43 where be it? Aug 03 03:15:21 pru_evtout_2: this? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhRZZ-hPwPfDdHI3djNSXzlpekN1RzRoak1ZU1BRYWc&usp=sharing Aug 03 03:15:46 pru_evtout_2: panto put a few useful ones Aug 03 03:16:12 every pin you probably want to use tthe pinctrl sysfs entries Aug 03 03:17:52 are there really people that seriously want VGA thesedays? Aug 03 03:18:14 VGA all things Aug 03 03:22:54 lots Aug 03 03:26:46 what do people connect to? Aug 03 03:26:53 most monitors thesedays have DVI or HDMI input Aug 03 03:27:11 and for small stuff, a raw LCD screen is easier to deal with Aug 03 03:54:42 lets just throw in lossy d/a and a/c conversions for the hell of it Aug 03 03:54:46 seems like a plan to me Aug 03 03:54:52 vga forever Aug 03 03:55:41 I have written to the crontab file with javascript, I want to restart the deamon so the changes are implemented from javascript, can I do that? Aug 03 04:56:02 * mranostay pokes wmat Aug 03 05:51:57 mranostay: i'm not wondering if people have made a few, i'm wondering if there's a collection of all possible overlays Aug 03 05:51:58 for all beaglebone header pins Aug 03 05:52:20 so some developer/newb that wants random pin functionality control can just lead the overlay at runtime. Aug 03 05:52:31 for whatever pin they want on the header. Aug 03 05:54:12 something like "gpio_P9_21" would set pin 21 of p9 to gpio. would have ones for i2c, uart, and whatnots Aug 03 05:59:06 it sure is a bit complex when you first look at it. Aug 03 06:03:48 well, not so much as it only needs to be done once. Aug 03 06:04:13 only one person should have to look up memory offsets in the reference manual to get a gpio working. Aug 03 06:05:10 there are only so many options on the board headers. Aug 03 06:05:46 i might do it this weekend. i've been waiting for someone else to do something similar since I got the black months ago :-| Aug 03 06:05:55 but i guess people are enjoying the pain or something. Aug 03 06:06:52 every time i've brought up "this thing is impossible to use for a beginner", I get a completely unrelated speech about mainline. :P Aug 03 06:07:33 it's *much* harder to get a pin muxed to what you want on the beaglebone as it is to mux the pins on an fpga. that's just sad. Aug 03 06:18:21 when I attempt to use the GateOne SSH terminal on my BBB, it allows me to enter the Host/IP (hitting enter for localhost), the port (hitting enter for 22), the User (hitting enter for root), and the password (hitting enter to leave it blank). It then comes back with "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host". I was able to do this with another BBB last night without issue, but having Aug 03 06:18:23 problems connecting to this one (ssh from command line does the same thing) Aug 03 06:27:44 are you trying ot log in as root ? Aug 03 06:27:53 if so log in as the regular user if you can Aug 03 06:28:11 if that dont work then im out of ideas/ Aug 03 06:28:55 Call for fire, mark my BBB, fire for effect. Or whatever works for you ;) Aug 03 06:30:20 trying as root, but that's what the instructions say. What is the regular user called? (this might be solved by a newer image, but don't have a microSD at the moment :)) Aug 03 06:31:49 I dont remember Aug 03 06:31:58 havent touched angstrom since week 1 Aug 03 06:32:08 hope to never touch it again Aug 03 06:32:29 are you running Ubuntu? Aug 03 06:32:45 debian Aug 03 06:32:59 I also dont run the BBB as a desktop Aug 03 06:33:38 for a desktop, angstrom is probably fine, but it is so different from what I am used to I wold just much rather use somethign I am used to Aug 03 06:34:09 yeah, for what I want to do I don't need desktop. ssh access would be fine...but... :) Aug 03 06:34:30 which deskto os are you using ? windows, OSX ? Aug 03 06:34:55 Ubuntu 12.04, and Windows 7 for games Aug 03 06:34:59 I would think the regular user info would be in CCO's website somewhere Aug 03 06:35:31 could have sworn it was on the card that came in the box, but heh yeah honestly i dont care any more Aug 03 06:36:10 yeah, one I played with last night (someone else's BBB) worked really smoothly with SSH etc. Aug 03 06:36:41 guessing I have either a newer or older image that has a problem. This thread seems to indicate some people just updating the image fixed it: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/beagleboard/Ya2qE4repSY Aug 03 06:36:53 angstrom probably would not be bad if you're used to it. BUt im set in my ways, been using debian for years so yeah Aug 03 06:37:30 its most likely the rsa bug ive been reading about lately Aug 03 06:37:47 yeah, something about it creating a zero length RSA key Aug 03 06:37:50 original BBB with 3.8.6 has a zero length file issue as i was told Aug 03 06:37:56 ah so same thing Aug 03 06:38:45 then if you can find the regular user name and password youshould be able to putty in Aug 03 06:38:45 yeah, that seems to be what that thread says, but not sure how to fix it really without SSH or a new image (don't have an FTDI serial handy) Aug 03 06:39:14 putty runs on Linux doesnt it ? Aug 03 06:39:30 well yeah doesnt mater could always use ssh Aug 03 06:40:43 only see root being used as the user in all examples...so might just have to wait till tomorrow to grab a 4GB microSSD and put a new image on it Aug 03 06:41:28 not a HUGE rush in any event, and the Cloud9 JS stuff seems to work fine to play around a bit for now Aug 03 06:41:29 may want to grab a FTDI 3v3 module eventually too. they come in handy a lot Aug 03 06:41:56 especially if like me, you like to muck aroudn with netboot etc Aug 03 06:42:28 I might have one for an old Propeller lying around, but all the other micros etc. have them built in or straight USB Aug 03 06:42:47 have a msp430 launchpad v1.5 ? Aug 03 06:43:06 that would work too but only at a BAUD rate of 9600 Aug 03 06:43:44 so the initial uboot message will come up garbled, but you'll get the boot log, and the ability to log in via the serial console(once set up proerly ) Aug 03 06:46:43 need to read up on serial connection and I might try this one that came with Propeller (USB mini to 4 pin serial) Aug 03 06:46:45 ah but right, that still wouldnt solve your current issue Aug 03 06:47:00 are yo usure its 3v3 ttl ? Aug 03 06:47:25 not sure, I could research that though, might be 5 or something Aug 03 06:48:10 so long as you can expose rx / tx and ground and it is 3v3 it should work Aug 03 06:48:29 don't suppose any of your gurus are microchip mplabx expreienced as well Aug 03 06:49:28 not I Aug 03 06:49:52 Kentamanos2 when it comes down to it here is an image i made for pinout Aug 03 06:49:54 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-3oca40vrH-g/Ubd5TjD-0_I/AAAAAAAAALU/-GibZBaTvKk/s1024/beaglebone-black-serial.jpg Aug 03 06:50:04 pretty simple Aug 03 06:50:52 what is that Aug 03 06:50:58 its a black beagelbone Aug 03 06:51:05 heh Aug 03 06:52:24 mplabx is the c compiler for PIC32 ? Aug 03 06:52:37 all pics Aug 03 06:52:49 actually its the Microchip IDE Aug 03 06:52:55 and it calls teh compiler Aug 03 06:52:56 ah cool, looks like this Propeller has a "VSS" label, and I think you supply that with 3.3v or 5v for however you want to run it (says it works for both) Aug 03 06:53:03 but thats probalby being picking Aug 03 06:53:14 Kentamanos2: what are you trying to do? Aug 03 06:53:30 mrpackethead atm he is just trying to log into his BBB Aug 03 06:53:35 oh. Aug 03 06:53:42 RSA key bug in effect it seems Aug 03 06:53:45 and the normal ways dong' twork? Aug 03 06:53:56 don't Aug 03 06:54:01 know the angstrom default username / paswd offhand ? Aug 03 06:54:19 no idea Aug 03 06:54:24 me either. Aug 03 06:54:25 whats angstrom? Aug 03 06:54:30 Aug 03 06:54:33 default distro on BBB Aug 03 06:54:34 exactly. Aug 03 06:54:36 hehe Aug 03 06:55:18 i'd never heard of angstrum untill i got a beagl Aug 03 06:55:24 same :) Aug 03 06:55:42 mrpackethead, you can always join #tiva, and ask in there opossum knows pic pretty good i think. Not sure if he uses their IDE or ASM though Aug 03 06:55:43 I installd debian Aug 03 06:55:58 never played with a beagle until I got the black though, the price is definitely nice now Aug 03 06:56:10 actuallky the price is annoying Aug 03 06:56:14 its way too cheap Aug 03 06:56:29 heh Aug 03 06:56:37 and we now have constant requests for *exactsteps" to install opencv Aug 03 06:56:46 " and i have to get it workging by thrusday " Aug 03 06:57:06 "because my exams are up on firday . . " Aug 03 06:57:12 friday* Aug 03 06:57:22 a guy from circuitco came out to our makerspace and did a demo and I was like "oh yeah, the BBB, I remember being interested when everyone was out of stock, I should order one now" Aug 03 06:58:06 Kentamanos2 just out of curiosity what are you plans for it ? or you on the same track as many and just experimenting ? Aug 03 06:58:53 I've been playing with galvonometers using a Teensy 3 and wanting to just try playing around with those on this platform for a bit Aug 03 06:59:33 ah, how did you like the teensy ? Aug 03 06:59:56 been eyeing those for quite some time. off and on. Aug 03 07:00:11 it's pretty awesome for the size etc., but doing port writes gets a bit crazy Aug 03 07:00:30 finally got into the msp430 launchpad, and for the project we had in mind it worked perfect. Aug 03 07:00:57 in Arduino for instance, PORTD is 8 bits you can write to all at the same time, on Teensy that's pins 2, 3, 7, 15, etc. (crazy mapping), makes your breadboards look like a nuclear exchange :) Aug 03 07:01:14 lol Aug 03 07:01:29 (was using a cheesy R2R for DAC and needed all 8 bits to be written at the same time) Aug 03 07:02:00 thats one thing that kind of threw me off. Arduino based stuff just does not appeal to me. Aug 03 07:02:13 but the boards all looked nice Aug 03 07:02:26 teensy's i mean Aug 03 07:02:40 yeah, under the covers it's all C/C++ even in Arduino IDE, so you can get as close as you want Aug 03 07:02:55 for instance to write the pins out as ports, I just used ARM registers Aug 03 07:03:52 for the price, Teensy 3's are pretty dang cool (but obviously you're not going to run a full OS on one) Aug 03 07:04:01 right Aug 03 07:05:06 actually running an OS doesnt exactly ( or didnt ) appeal to me either. But i am slowing learning Linux ( in the embedded context ) and am finding lots to like Aug 03 07:05:46 been using debian since the 90's . . . so thats why my preferences. Aug 03 07:06:35 well mostly I should say ive been toying with debian since the 90's Windows has always been and will probably remain to be my desktop OS of choice. Becaue like you, i like to game once in a while Aug 03 07:06:45 here's the mess of a circuitboard I had going for the laser galvo's: http://imgur.com/C8OsLnc and what I was playing around with http://imgur.com/a/58R0C Aug 03 07:07:17 Has anyone gotten wifi working on BBB? My wifi connects but fails to get a DHCP sometimes. Also, unplugging and plugging back in the wifi dongle sometimes works, sometimes fails. Anyone got troubleshooting hints? Aug 03 07:07:55 Went through the steps in the google groups links, but it still is very flaky at best, and it never connects on boot. Aug 03 07:07:58 lol yeah that is a "mess" half expected to see a propeller or two under all that copper ;) Aug 03 07:08:27 hehe, ran out of damn jumper wires :) Aug 03 07:08:31 ptan, been lots of talk about wifi on the groups Aug 03 07:08:52 ptan, are you by chance using an Atheros dongle ? Aug 03 07:08:59 m_billybob: yeah, been following it to much frustration. Aug 03 07:09:22 m_billybob: no, using D-Link (Realtek) Aug 03 07:09:28 ug Aug 03 07:10:32 ptan, RCN has been recomending a couple of Atheros dongles on the groups he seems to know what hes talking about. No hands on personally though Aug 03 07:11:12 His comments seems to indicate that if you'reusing ARM, you *need* touse a known workign Atheros dongle. Aug 03 07:11:23 m_billybob, I'll try to get my hands on one of them. Aug 03 07:11:58 i know that in the past on x86 PC linux realtek has been a pain in my backside from time to time . . . Aug 03 07:13:43 Kentamanos2 yeah runningout of jumper wires always an issue isnt it ? hehehe Aug 03 07:14:25 * m_billybob recently butchered a few to make a makeshift serial debug "module" out of one of his MSP430 launchpads Aug 03 07:15:01 yeah, need to make a PCB for some of it, but tried to use a 16-bit two channel DAC and had some problems getting linear response (was more like y=sqrt(x) instead of y=x for some reason) Aug 03 07:16:31 definitely want more than cheesy 8 bit R2R's, so I bought two more 16-bit DAC's...if you ever want to waste money on very small chips, buy some fast low noise DACs Aug 03 07:17:30 I let my buddy deal with most of the EE stuff, I am more of a programmer, that knows just enough to program harddware Aug 03 07:17:40 *some* hardware Aug 03 07:17:54 meaning mostly what ive experienced lol Aug 03 07:18:52 sure keeps me busy learnign though Aug 03 07:19:15 im always reading it seems. about some new bit of hardware Aug 03 07:19:17 pretty much the same here, software for a living but playing around with electronics for fun Aug 03 07:20:18 keeps me out of the bars. Aug 03 07:20:27 ( and consequently out of trouble ) Aug 03 07:21:26 SO that second picture you pasted a link to, that looks pretty neat Aug 03 07:22:16 mini laser light show Aug 03 07:22:37 yeah, those images are just lisajous I put in lookup tables so I wouldn't have to do the floating point path in realtime Aug 03 07:23:26 I definitely need some better optics (not a cheesy laser pointer and some real mount, as opposed to "place laser point in groove on breadboard on top of this specific book and it will line up pretty well) :) Aug 03 07:24:59 that going ot get exspensive. Aug 03 07:25:04 thats Aug 03 07:27:07 I was watching a youtube video one say of a guy who made a rotating orb that had something like 15 lasers on it. Dont know the exact word for the device, but he could "paint" whole sets of stars on a ccieling, or wall. it was amazing Aug 03 07:27:18 yeah, for now I should probably just laser cut a cheesy mounting plate and some rings to hold the laser Aug 03 07:28:01 i've been trying to cut solder paste stencils on my laser Aug 03 07:28:11 takes a bit of effort Aug 03 07:28:18 why not have some made ? Aug 03 07:28:25 time Aug 03 07:28:34 and for prototyping Aug 03 07:28:47 mylar works pretty well Aug 03 07:29:01 found a trick that makes it better Aug 03 07:29:04 that's what I've heard...still never done reflow with paste etc. though Aug 03 07:29:10 you put your mylar on a bit of glass Aug 03 07:29:35 there was a HaD post on makign stencils out of aluminum cans that looked pretty doable too sometime back a month or two ago i guess Aug 03 07:29:49 etching them? Aug 03 07:29:59 i dont recall Aug 03 07:30:03 most the alluminum wold be too thick i'd have thought Aug 03 07:30:49 idk i mentioned it my buddy, who just told me "na, id buy mine" Aug 03 07:32:09 we still need to get our reflow ovenworking "properly" before we worry about that. Should have bought an IR oven instead Aug 03 07:32:27 instead of a convection oven Aug 03 07:32:27 m_billybob: i have a $99 one Aug 03 07:32:33 and a $15,000 one Aug 03 07:32:39 the $99 one works very well Aug 03 07:32:49 yeah seems theres really no middle ground eh ? Aug 03 07:32:50 the $15k one works well as well Aug 03 07:33:00 nah theres some good small machines Aug 03 07:33:01 I think the first time I try it will be a Walmart hot plate with me watching a thermometer and acting as a PID :) Aug 03 07:33:16 i got a kit from sparkfun Aug 03 07:33:24 and an oven from Briscoes Aug 03 07:33:28 Kentamanos2 max31855 works pretty good SPI thermocouple Aug 03 07:33:30 and its done lots of owkr for me. Aug 03 07:33:35 K type Aug 03 07:34:27 mrpackethead ours seems to do "ok" but for lead free, it lags far too much so far. we need to insulate it better. somehow Aug 03 07:34:46 ahh lead free Aug 03 07:34:54 i dont' proto anything in lead free Aug 03 07:34:55 most of the surface mount I've done though I just solder by hand, but I'm obviously not doing huge quantities or anything. Still want to do reflow just to do it though Aug 03 07:35:06 too hard Aug 03 07:35:07 :p) Aug 03 07:35:09 or ill finally talk my buddy into just buying an IR oven. IR ovens seem to have a great heating curve for reflow Aug 03 07:36:07 mrpackethead yeah i tend to agree Aug 03 07:36:35 230C for no more than 20 seconds, with time cirtical above 218C is pretty tight Aug 03 07:37:19 this oven we have does pretty good up until aroudn 210C where it lags lags lags Aug 03 07:37:43 probably takes a full minute to reach 230C from 210 which is far too long Aug 03 07:38:31 that, and my code could probably use a bit of polishing too. Aug 03 07:39:02 im checkign and reacting to temps around 32 times a second, or can Aug 03 07:39:17 which i am thinking is overkill Aug 03 07:39:38 more power Aug 03 07:39:39 :-) Aug 03 07:39:53 my oven pulls 18A @ 230V Aug 03 07:39:56 :-) Aug 03 07:39:59 when its going full noise Aug 03 07:40:22 it had a multi-element set up Aug 03 07:40:25 dont think we get that much juice through ours, the elements areprobably too small Aug 03 07:40:26 "bake" or "grill" Aug 03 07:40:29 we have two Aug 03 07:40:38 the way it worked, it was an either or situaiton Aug 03 07:40:42 using the selector switch Aug 03 07:40:42 upper and a lower. with a fan of course too Aug 03 07:40:52 but i pulled all the guts out Aug 03 07:41:00 basically what was left was a box Aug 03 07:41:04 with elements in it Aug 03 07:41:06 and my controller Aug 03 07:41:17 i switch all the elments in parrallel togehter Aug 03 07:41:33 i can get 5C / sec rise Aug 03 07:41:56 i switch ours seperatly, was hoping for finer controll that way, but it doesnt seem to be working that great so far Aug 03 07:42:04 you dont' need it Aug 03 07:42:18 seriosly a few degress either way Aug 03 07:42:20 full balls out or nothing then you say ? Aug 03 07:42:21 is largely unomporst Aug 03 07:42:40 i'm switching mine via a relay as well Aug 03 07:42:54 and only let it turn on/off max of every 2sec Aug 03 07:43:02 its fine. Aug 03 07:43:10 its *prototyping* Aug 03 07:43:28 you can just end up creating problems that you dont' need to solve Aug 03 07:44:37 yeah we dont use relays Aug 03 07:44:51 triacs with isoopts Aug 03 07:45:15 still fine Aug 03 07:45:17 either or Aug 03 07:45:27 i used what the kit from sparkfun had Aug 03 07:45:35 * m_billybob nods Aug 03 07:45:47 my buddy designed this from scratch Aug 03 07:45:48 i've have used triacs if i was designing it Aug 03 07:46:36 geepers i'm busy Aug 03 07:47:25 im not but it is kinda of passed my bed time Aug 03 07:47:38 normally sleeping by now Aug 03 07:48:30 running an experiment on my bbb whcih is to say not much of one. booted from a USB HDD with a swap file. seemsto be doing fine still Aug 03 07:49:29 I should put a memory intensive load on it but ill let it run for a few days like this first probably Aug 03 08:01:21 Does anyone know how to change the u-boot splash screen (with Angstrom installed), on a BBB? Aug 03 08:05:01 no idea personally, would think it might involve tinkering with the source, but honestly dont know Aug 03 08:05:40 maybe ther is some sort of nologo option ive not yet seem documented Aug 03 08:05:48 seen* Aug 03 08:06:38 man projects like this -> http://forum.43oh.com/topic/4204-the-cramp-430-powered-desktop-crane-lamp/ Aug 03 08:07:10 I've seen some instructions on the web for replacing it on the BB(W), but they don't work on the BBB. Aug 03 08:07:11 the time involved . . . one can only imagine. Aug 03 08:07:23 link ? Aug 03 08:07:38 What about changing the Angstrom login delay timeout? Aug 03 08:08:02 oh timeout delay ? Aug 03 08:08:04 i.e. GDM autologin timeout? Aug 03 08:08:12 thought you wanted to change the logo its self Aug 03 08:08:18 (The default 10-second thing). I want to change the logo also. Aug 03 08:08:56 I read somewhere it can be changed to a ti logo - how is that done? (The article which explains it apparently was deleted). Aug 03 08:09:12 (Best guess is u-boot is replaced with one with a ti logo in it) Aug 03 08:10:17 yeah idk for sure, but thoughif i saw an example for the bbw i might have an idea Aug 03 08:10:28 So far, best link I've seen is http://android.serverbox.ch/?p=70 Aug 03 08:11:15 However his instructions are bogus/untested. They require a special version of gcc with some support utilities - those support utilities haven't been ported to ARM. Aug 03 08:11:18 ah yeah so you'd have to rebuilt from source based on those instructions Aug 03 08:11:33 thats very similar to how the bbb uboot is built btw Aug 03 08:12:34 that logo.h file most likely is going to be a text array ( or table if you like ) Aug 03 08:12:46 I have that, but need instructions... Aug 03 08:13:24 There is a link to the Angstrom recovery image with u-boot for the BBB, and there is the source for u-boot for the BB, however it is not for the BBB and doesn't work on the BBB. Aug 03 08:13:37 http://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black is the best i have. instructions for building uboot and debian from source but as far as i know angstrom and debian et all use the same u-boot. Aug 03 08:13:42 i.e. it's as if a file is missing... Aug 03 08:14:18 That might work - I'll try it... Aug 03 08:14:25 What about the 10-second delay on the login screen? Aug 03 08:14:35 that i dont have a clue about Aug 03 08:14:47 bootdelay=xx is all i can think of Aug 03 08:14:58 probably not what you want / need Aug 03 08:14:58 But where is that located? Aug 03 08:15:11 uEnv.txt Aug 03 08:15:24 its a u-boot environment variable Aug 03 08:15:38 overridable via uEnv.txt Aug 03 08:15:54 Thanks m_billybob... Aug 03 08:16:06 sorry I couldnt be of more help. Aug 03 08:16:43 Actually, I think you helped a lot... Aug 03 08:17:03 heheh ok cool :) Aug 03 08:17:18 Wait a minute - I wasn't referring to the 10-second delay in uboot, I was referring to the countdown timer where it autologsin as root... Aug 03 08:17:34 ah yeah no help there Aug 03 08:17:37 I think it's in gdm... Aug 03 08:19:11 err screetching halt Aug 03 08:19:31 Also, got a question about the boot switch - I haven't verified this with a multitester yet, but the boot switch on my BBB acts like it's shorted - if I boot without an SD card, it boots from the internal MMC. If I insert an SD card, it only boots from the SD card. Is this normal behavior? i.e. if I want to restore the original Angstrom image, I just put in the SD card, and it auto restores (I don't have to hold the boot button). Aug 03 08:19:50 (if the SD card is unbootable, it doesn't boot). Aug 03 08:20:46 you want to boot from emmc ? Aug 03 08:20:56 sd card as storage ? Aug 03 08:21:05 Yes. Aug 03 08:21:32 -> /boot/uboot/uEnv.txt and add . .. Aug 03 08:21:35 As a work-around, I'm booting from the emmc, using a thumb drive for storage... Aug 03 08:22:05 http://spirilis.net/junk/uEnv.txt Aug 03 08:22:08 The BBB won't even pass it's POST if the SD card is not bootable... Aug 03 08:22:13 thats what you want in uEnv.txt Aug 03 08:22:23 on the uSD card Aug 03 08:22:34 Even if it's not bootable? Aug 03 08:22:41 correct. Aug 03 08:22:48 sigh, the BBB must be a support nightmare Aug 03 08:22:58 Weird, huh? Aug 03 08:23:18 yes, and no. i had the same thoughts initially but now that i think about it its a good thing Aug 03 08:23:48 the reason being that the BBB can boot in many ways Aug 03 08:24:00 many of those can be keyed by a uSD card inserted Aug 03 08:24:16 Interesting Aug 03 08:24:28 so unless you want to sit there and tapp morse code on the boot button at boot time . .. Aug 03 08:24:41 its actually very handy Aug 03 08:25:33 for instance right now Aug 03 08:25:55 root@arm:~# df -h / Aug 03 08:25:55 Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on Aug 03 08:25:57 Got a hardware compatibility question: There is a Chinese clone (Chipsee) of the LCD7, however it has expansion, accelerometers, audio, and serial ports. Do you know anything about this? Aug 03 08:26:03 -> /dev/root 275G 1.5G 260G 1% / Aug 03 08:26:30 im booted from a USB HDD :) keyed by the uEnv.txt file on an SD card Aug 03 08:26:50 That is cool... Aug 03 08:27:12 i boot my dev machiens via tftp Aug 03 08:27:13 you can read about it some here if you like Aug 03 08:27:15 http://www.embeddedhobbyist.com/debian-tips/beaglebone-black/beaglebone-black-usb-boot/ Aug 03 08:27:18 shameless plug Aug 03 08:27:37 no idea why i categorized that under debian tips Aug 03 08:27:44 its actualy universal Aug 03 08:27:47 i should be Aug 03 08:27:51 or should be* Aug 03 08:28:26 mrpacket_ yeah i did that for a while too Aug 03 08:28:34 How does it know to boot from USB versus the emmc? Does it scan for that file on USB? Aug 03 08:29:17 may end up going back. with the BBB tied to a laptop, and assumign being mobile tftp / NFS rootfs could be "better" Aug 03 08:29:34 i can tftp boot via a bre metal machine or a virtual machine Aug 03 08:29:47 im just in the shed, doing another interation of solder mask stencils Aug 03 08:30:22 why is cnc machinery hypnotic Aug 03 08:30:26 OK, back to the other question: Anyone use the Chipsee 7" touchscreen? Aug 03 08:30:39 seen it on youtube. Aug 03 08:31:00 The manufacturer says it works with Windows CE and Android, I wanted to know if it worked with Angstrom. Aug 03 08:31:19 perhaps contact them Aug 03 08:31:41 could be a driver issue with the SGX video whcih isnt supported quite yet Aug 03 08:32:00 TI is supposed to release drivers this quarter sometime Aug 03 08:32:01 What about the LCD7? Does anything need to change in the OS to make it work? Aug 03 08:32:39 Or is it "plug-and-play?" Aug 03 08:32:50 dont know. Aug 03 08:33:37 seen chatter on the groups about it is all. but usually when someone is talking about it on the beagleboard groups, somethign isnt working for them Aug 03 08:34:12 Stuff I've seen like that refers to the board rev - mine is the latest, and apparently is OK. Aug 03 08:38:19 m_billybob: so the trick to cut the mylar stencils works wonderfully! Aug 03 08:38:28 tape the mylar to a peice of allumium Aug 03 08:38:41 the alloy "wicks" the heat away Aug 03 08:38:46 so you dont' get exessive melting Aug 03 08:38:52 Lancey to asnwer your earlier question that I missed. u-boot, it has defaults it uses for booting. with nothing in uEnv.txt it assume a certain "path", but with the proper uEnv.txt environment variables, you can tell the bbb to boot from where ever yo uwant. Aug 03 08:39:00 mrpacket_ sweet :) Aug 03 08:39:17 30' x 3' roll of myalr = $25 Aug 03 08:39:25 thats a lot of stencils! Aug 03 08:39:28 i.e. I thought it would be some kind of catch-22 - i.e. udev doesn't load until after it's started booting... Aug 03 08:39:33 export solder mask as tiff at 1200dpi Aug 03 08:39:39 to laser cutter software Aug 03 08:39:45 15% power at 100mm/s Aug 03 08:39:48 and boom Aug 03 08:39:49 mrpacket_, so let me get this straight, like an aluminum "block" on the bottom, mylar on top, and a hot knife ? Aug 03 08:40:05 using laser ? Aug 03 08:40:09 using laser Aug 03 08:40:12 eeek too ruch for my blood Aug 03 08:40:18 rich* Aug 03 08:40:20 i'm just using a bit of 2mm alloy sheet Aug 03 08:40:22 for now anyhow Aug 03 08:40:42 yes, but laser cutters are in every maker-space Aug 03 08:40:47 what are you using for a laser cutting rig ? Aug 03 08:40:49 not hard to find one Aug 03 08:40:59 whats the cost though ? Aug 03 08:41:01 I have a chinese MT-3050D at home Aug 03 08:41:08 its a 50W C02 machine Aug 03 08:41:11 cost me about $2k Aug 03 08:41:27 yeah too much for now, but hey you could make a bit of cash off that Aug 03 08:41:51 not just for solder stencils Aug 03 08:42:05 i use it for cutting plastic Aug 03 08:42:18 i have to do thousand lenses covers shorlty Aug 03 08:42:35 light show stuff ? Aug 03 08:42:38 yes Aug 03 08:42:42 nice. Aug 03 08:42:46 i mostly bought it for engraving boxes Aug 03 08:43:03 does a nice job of engraving powder coated alluminum Aug 03 08:43:22 so i would imagine you're making colored lens covers then ? Aug 03 08:43:30 no. Aug 03 08:43:34 absolutely not Aug 03 08:43:53 what ? did i say somethign wrong ? lol Aug 03 08:44:13 not meaning to offend just curious Aug 03 08:44:45 im kind of clueless when it comes to lightshow gear Aug 03 08:46:12 sorry, Aug 03 08:46:15 transparent Aug 03 08:46:21 the colur comes from the RGBW led Aug 03 08:54:49 ah right Aug 03 08:55:07 okie time for me to hit the rack, you all take it easy Aug 03 09:00:38 the racks are not for hitting! Aug 03 09:14:58 so what is the officiel git repository for u-boot? the best I got is a tgz for the 2013.04 release (contains a git repo), last commit being from tony@ti Aug 03 09:40:24 * mranostay waddles in Aug 03 10:30:59 <_SY_> how do! Aug 03 10:39:13 cde, u-boot for BB is maintained here as far as I know: https://github.com/beagleboard/meta-beagleboard/tree/master/common-bsp/recipes-bsp/u-boot Aug 03 10:50:29 excellent! thx bro Aug 03 13:48:12 mranostay: something for your cat? http://www.williamsoo.com.au/index.php/archives/1172 Aug 03 15:03:57 Anyone awake? Aug 03 15:04:12 I gots me some questions `bout the camera cape. Aug 03 15:04:29 just ask Aug 03 15:04:46 Specificly, is it BBB compatible and where I can get a 0.050" pitch 2x15 extension cable for the camera carrier board. Aug 03 15:38:20 hi Aug 03 15:38:54 I was wondering it an enclosure is recommended for the BeagleBone Black, or can it safely be used without one? Aug 03 15:39:15 It's recommended. Aug 03 15:39:28 Stuff can fall on it, and it's not very recommended to touch it while on. Aug 03 15:39:35 it's not strictly necessary Aug 03 15:39:47 But even just a cardboard box is fine. Aug 03 15:39:57 SpeedEvil: who the hell recommends such things? case vendors? Aug 03 15:40:11 mru: Sane people. Aug 03 15:40:12 I'm using http://www.built-to-spec.com/blog/kit-instructions/beaglebone-black-enclosure-assembly/ right now, it's finee Aug 03 15:40:22 a;though it lack ventilation holes Aug 03 15:40:22 Me, for one. Aug 03 15:40:41 I have a dozen dev boards without cases here Aug 03 15:40:52 no problems at all Aug 03 15:41:16 a case limits the risk of accidentaly shorting something Aug 03 15:41:18 I've dropped stuff on operating boards before. Aug 03 15:41:21 it also looks cooler Aug 03 15:41:32 the one board that came in a case (sheevaplug) I had to remove it Aug 03 15:41:54 A cardboard box or other basic cover makes that sort of accident much less likely Aug 03 15:42:22 And if you're using it for something - rather than actively developing on it - then a case is obviously a good idea. Aug 03 15:42:23 my beagles and pandas are neatly stacked at the back of the desk Aug 03 15:42:31 SpeedEvil: don't forget the coolness factor Aug 03 15:42:48 so basicly if I would hack something out of cardboard that would do? Aug 03 15:42:56 or a DIY lego enclosure perhaps? Aug 03 15:42:57 cde: My Raspberry Pi is inside a takeaway food container, with some holes cut in it Aug 03 15:43:04 usna: Sure. Cases aren't magic. Aug 03 15:43:08 usna: you don't need _any_ enclosure Aug 03 15:43:15 SpeedEvil: that sounds awesome! Aug 03 15:43:20 so however much or little you feel like doing is perfectly fine Aug 03 15:43:31 ok, thanks :) Aug 03 15:43:44 A case isn't strictly required - if you're using it on a clean bench and paying attention to it. Aug 03 15:43:47 just don't put a naked board on a conductive surface Aug 03 15:47:12 is a 5v 2A power adapter recommended when using a 3G usb modem? Aug 03 15:48:07 Yes. Aug 03 15:48:09 a sufficient power supply is recommended Aug 03 15:48:12 They can be quite hungry Aug 03 15:48:15 2A should be enough Aug 03 15:48:27 usna: adafruit does sell a 2A power supply Aug 03 15:48:47 theoritically, usb-powered things are limited to 500mA Aug 03 15:51:38 thanks again for the advice guys Aug 03 15:54:39 * kfoltman imagines a bunch of pandas and beagles fighting for food in the corner Aug 03 15:58:32 I was just wondering if there are any drawbacks at using a BBB to build a 24/7 3G modem gateway? Aug 03 15:59:01 other than usb being involved, no Aug 03 15:59:41 Power use can be a little high. Aug 03 15:59:53 I currently use an old laptop to power a Huawei K3765; running debian netinstall and umtskeeper which runs like a charm for over 1 week Aug 03 16:00:16 but if on mains, that's not an issue Aug 03 16:00:20 SpeedEvil: as in excess of 5 watt? Aug 03 16:00:22 No Aug 03 16:00:46 1 week? Aug 03 16:00:50 * mru measures uptime in years Aug 03 16:01:20 mru: as a test case to see if everything runs smoothly. offcourse higher uptimes are necessary Aug 03 16:04:24 im thinking about running debian on the BBB Aug 03 16:04:47 would it be possible to toy around with an image (BeageBone Black Debian Wheezy 7.0.0) in virtualbox / ESXi / ... first Aug 03 16:04:56 no Aug 03 16:05:15 well, do you have a virtualisation-capable arm to run it on? Aug 03 16:05:18 like a chromebook Aug 03 16:05:32 hmm no.. Aug 03 16:05:54 you're right its ARM so that cannot be virtualized on a normal x86 system Aug 03 16:05:59 the cortex-a8 cpu in the bone doesn't support virtualisation Aug 03 16:06:28 you can of course do full emulation in qemu Aug 03 16:06:36 but if you have a bone there's little point in doing that Aug 03 16:06:47 it's not like you can destroy the bone with bad software Aug 03 16:07:01 well, I do not have a beaglebone yet Aug 03 16:07:18 but it would save me some time to be able to install the necessary software and install everything I want Aug 03 16:07:22 build an image of that Aug 03 16:07:29 and write that to the BBB when it arrives Aug 03 16:07:40 you seem to be in a hurry Aug 03 16:07:54 and you're forgetting that it won't work first time anyway Aug 03 16:09:26 it might not look that way, but I am actually taking time to plan everything Aug 03 16:10:20 yes, but nothing ever goes to plan Aug 03 16:10:32 that's why I prefer to make things up as I go along Aug 03 16:11:50 well I first used 2 mikrotik routers for my projects Aug 03 16:12:08 both fail to run smoothly with the 3G modem Aug 03 16:12:34 so I guess I figured to try to really do my homework this time Aug 03 16:22:26 usna: I would recommend sticking with Angstrom which is the officially supported Linux distro for the BBB Aug 03 16:23:27 I read some negative feedback about Angstrom: http://beagleboard.org/project/angstrom/ Aug 03 16:27:54 "usna" is that anything like ussa ? Aug 03 16:29:43 ussr Aug 03 16:29:58 or USA with an n Aug 03 16:30:09 who knows Aug 03 16:32:26 i read it as us not applicable Aug 03 16:32:31 ;) Aug 03 16:34:15 usna: don't trust the feedback. try it for yourself, it'll mostly likely work fine Aug 03 16:34:29 no use what makes you happy Aug 03 16:34:35 and if it doesn't, write a patch and submit it :) Aug 03 16:34:49 it doesnt matter of Angstrom is the "supported" OS Aug 03 16:34:55 if* Aug 03 16:34:58 m_billybob: elaborate Aug 03 16:34:58 all work fine Aug 03 16:35:44 thank you, for the elaboration Aug 03 16:37:35 cde, well if someone has years of experience with another disrto, you can not expect them to wantto use angstrom Aug 03 16:38:15 if you stick to that logic, you will never try anything new. I used debian in 2000 but have moved on since Aug 03 16:38:50 move on seems to imply that there is somethign wrong with debian, there is not. Aug 03 16:39:06 anyway, the whole point is to use what *you* like using Aug 03 16:39:50 I do agree. and indeed there is nothing wrong with Debian, it does work fine Aug 03 16:40:40 I thin kangstgrom would probably work fine for someone who is not used to "things" being in specific places Aug 03 16:40:45 grr Aug 03 16:40:51 I think Angstrom* Aug 03 16:41:20 FOr me its different enough to makle me feel like im learning Linux all over again Aug 03 16:41:34 well in some respects anyhow Aug 03 16:42:12 word Aug 03 16:43:49 * m_billybob is just an old grumpy Debian user who like thigns exactly how they are Aug 03 16:47:15 cde: although, if i knew of a good source of information, for learning Angstromese( without having to bother others ) . . .yeah i think that'd be cool Aug 03 17:28:58 m_billybob: what I like most about Angstrom is the neat build system. very flexible, it's slightly harder to cross-compile a whole debian system Aug 03 17:47:35 Hi all Aug 03 18:54:57 cde, yeah idk, i was looking at that crash course webpage, where he shows steps for building uboot . . . seemed way overly complicated to me. Granted, no scripts so just all bare commands. BUt i have not actually built a debian kernel without someone build scripts in quitesome time. atleast 6 years Aug 03 18:55:16 and yeah uboot != linux Aug 03 18:56:28 hello Aug 03 18:56:32 guess i am just used to RCN's stuff now Aug 03 18:56:48 got something ot say boomer ? Aug 03 18:56:51 m_billybob: seems interesting, I've been trying to build u-boot as well. do you have a link to the webpage? Aug 03 18:57:24 RCN's stuff ? sure not sure if it would work with Angstrom though, uses teh armhf linaro toolchain Aug 03 18:57:46 http://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black Aug 03 18:58:01 m_billybob,just wondering if anyone knew of a good guide on getting wifi dongle working, been searching and havenot find one Aug 03 18:58:13 thx bro Aug 03 18:58:31 cde, np but het the first two major steps is all thats needed. they work Aug 03 18:59:04 Boomer dont rightly know but have seen quite a bit of chatter on the beagleboard google groups about wifi issues. whcih chipset are you using ? Aug 03 18:59:27 Atheros seems to be the way to go, from what I have seen on the groups Aug 03 18:59:41 realtek . . .more of a pita to setup Aug 03 19:00:12 there is https://www.fsf.org/news/a-second-fsf-certified-device-from-thinkpenguin-long-range-usb-wifi-adapter-with-atheros-chip although it's a bit expensive Aug 03 19:01:24 in fact, it's very expensive ($54) Aug 03 19:01:47 m_billybob, its, a edimax wifi dongle, i think it is a ralink Aug 03 19:01:49 cde, anyhow, im not sure if compiling uboot with an armhf toolchain would have an effect on Angstrom its self. I dotn think it would, but im still not all that experienced at embedded Linux really Aug 03 19:02:26 m_billybob: yes. in fact I plan to move away from angstrom/debian/etc. and compile everything by hand Aug 03 19:02:34 Boomer, well its the weekend this channel and beagelboard google groups will be slow, but perhaps ask on the groups, and worse case maybe someone will answer monday is Aug 03 19:02:44 cde gentoo ? Aug 03 19:02:54 true, I am no rush, Aug 03 19:02:58 well back in the day I used linux from scratch, so something similar Aug 03 19:03:37 ive always thought gentoo was neat, but never really felt like investing the time Aug 03 19:04:24 I fear that gentoo like angstrom will rely a lot on pre-made built scripts, not letting the user tinker with the build process. however I've never used gentoo so I could be wrong Aug 03 19:04:34 i would probably helpme understand some aspect of linux better perhaps, but yeah just dont know if i am ready for the time commitment Aug 03 19:05:15 no ? You're into ARCH now ? sorry you probably already told me but lots on my mind lately lol Aug 03 19:07:00 Boomer here we go Aug 03 19:07:05 Atheros (atk9) based modules on amazon... Aug 03 19:07:05 tl-wn721n Aug 03 19:07:05 tl-wn722n Aug 03 19:07:29 SOmethign to keep in mind they're supposed to be inexpensive. Aug 03 19:07:57 * m_billybob keeps a text file of all important ( to him ) conversations on the groups Aug 03 19:09:20 m_billybob, I will check it out, in the meantime I finally found a guide and I hope it will work. http://www.codealpha.net/864/how-to-set-up-a-rtl8192cu-on-the-beaglebone-black-bbb/ Aug 03 19:09:43 very good. Aug 03 19:10:27 yeah the tl-wn721n is 13 bux on amazon Aug 03 19:10:40 not too bad really. Aug 03 19:12:04 is it possible to convert the mini-usb on the bbb from a client to a host? Aug 03 19:12:51 possible yes ( according to an article ive read ) suggested, no Aug 03 19:13:04 requires hackign the board, whcih voids your warranty Aug 03 19:13:42 hacking the board is ok, i'm more worried about having to mod the kernel Aug 03 19:14:04 that i am not sure about Aug 03 19:14:20 where was that article? Aug 03 19:14:49 http://pansenti.wordpress.com/2013/05/27/beaglebone-black-with-two-usb-host-ports-it-can-be-done-but-its-not-easy/ Aug 03 19:14:53 follow at your own risk Aug 03 19:15:06 tx Aug 03 19:17:10 np Aug 03 19:30:42 does u-boot set the usb config registers or does this later happen in the kernel? Aug 03 19:32:23 hello, having some trouble installing ti's android 4.2.2 on beaglebone black. Aug 03 19:32:42 if I boot when sdcard is inserted but reset 2 is not pressed Aug 03 19:32:54 led0 and led 1 lights up and goes off after a while Aug 03 19:33:47 MrKeuner and what is that supposed to mean ? Aug 03 19:34:28 indeed, I was going to ask this Aug 03 19:34:43 does it mean sdcard cannot be read or something? Aug 03 19:34:50 led2 is sdcard Aug 03 19:34:53 heh you do not have a serial debug module then i take it ? in this case would come in real handy Aug 03 19:35:05 I do not have a serial cable, no Aug 03 19:35:54 i tried a variety of ac adapters though Aug 03 19:36:03 last one is 5v 1A usb adapter Aug 03 19:36:12 I have no hands on with android at all. BUt with debian what happens when i boot up USR LED0 / LED 1 come on brifly while the kernel loads Aug 03 19:36:14 also tried a 5v 2A barrel jack adapter Aug 03 19:36:23 I doublt the problems lies within the adapter Aug 03 19:36:25 err briefly Aug 03 19:36:35 sounds liek a possible kernel load fail Aug 03 19:36:41 MrKeuner: wjat does the serial console show? Aug 03 19:36:44 but again i have no idea what android does Aug 03 19:36:55 cde I do not have a serial connection, unfortunately Aug 03 19:37:06 what is the easiest way to install debian? Aug 03 19:37:16 I'd like to try if it boots from sdcard Aug 03 19:37:18 MrKeuner: I see. for debugging purposes I really recommend getting a serial cable Aug 03 19:37:39 (not the classic one, mind you, but a 3.3v serial cable like ftdi or cp210x) Aug 03 19:37:46 cde, but if it does not boot, how would a serail cable be useful? Aug 03 19:38:02 you'll see the output of u-boot and kernel, it can be useful Aug 03 19:38:09 I see Aug 03 19:38:12 MrKeuner i build from source, thats not that easy ( take most of a day to download and compile from source ) but there is a link on cicuitco's web pages I believe that link to the Debian image built by the same guy who wrote the instructions ive followed Aug 03 19:38:14 monzie, I'd say setting USB config registers is likely done in both places. Aug 03 19:39:08 MrKeuner there is also always Angstrom Aug 03 19:40:53 m_billybob, angstrom boots ok. I just wanted to try google tv but does not matter that much Aug 03 19:41:01 eventually bbb will be yet another server Aug 03 19:41:12 probably running ubuntu or debian 7 Aug 03 19:41:49 could the problem be the type of sdcard or something? Aug 03 19:41:57 should it work if it fits? Aug 03 19:42:07 these two cards I have are hc I believe Aug 03 19:42:21 class 10 and 4 Aug 03 19:42:29 tx dnil, any idea how to find that code? I'm thinking as a first step get the usb register addresses and grep for them Aug 03 19:43:43 MrKeuner if you dont mind building from source -> http://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black Aug 03 19:43:44 Here's a link to the u-boot source: https://github.com/beagleboard/meta-beagleboard/tree/master/common-bsp/recipes-bsp/u-boot Aug 03 19:43:48 those are very good instructions Aug 03 19:44:13 m_billybob, thanks noted. Aug 03 19:44:16 monzie, You have the git hash used inside the bitbake recipe Aug 03 19:44:42 monzie, and BB patches in the u-boot-denx directory Aug 03 19:44:50 MrKeuner i can never find his premade debian images easily . ..so yeah if you hunt or look at the cicuitco's web pages perhaps you'll find it Aug 03 19:45:01 Another question, when I plug in the sdcard, and press reset 2 and plug in usb power which is 5v 1A I get pwr light on but no led[0-3] does not that mean there is a hardware problem? Aug 03 19:45:37 not necesarily Aug 03 19:46:25 MrKeuner a recent explanation ive read on the google groups seems ot indicate that perhaps the ramp time on the power supply *may* be too slow Aug 03 19:46:42 one possible explkanation anyhow Aug 03 19:46:57 err yeah lol explanation Aug 03 19:46:58 m_billybob, if you don't mind, can you please try inserting an sdcard and booting image on the onboard disk and see how the set of leds behave? Aug 03 19:47:16 i can nearly tell you from memory Aug 03 19:47:24 I don't mean booting from the sdcard. Aug 03 19:47:46 when sdcard is unplugged I get all sort of lighting show there Aug 03 19:47:53 ledo and led 2 come on, loads kernel led1, and 4 come on, then all 4 briefly just before the heartbeat pattern starts Aug 03 19:48:14 led 1 and 4 never comes on when sdcard is inserted in my case Aug 03 19:48:22 does it matter what's on the sdcard? Aug 03 19:48:30 MrKeuner it would behoove you to get a serial debug cable Aug 03 19:48:32 yes Aug 03 19:48:37 tx dnil Aug 03 19:48:47 monzie, np Aug 03 19:49:15 if you have a sdcard card inserted at boot time, you'll need a uEnv.txt file on the sd card that describes to uboot how to boot, and from where Aug 03 19:49:35 unles you enjoy pressing the boot button whcih ive never done personally Aug 03 19:50:36 ah I see, I understand that even if reset 2 is not pressed it is possible to boot from the sdcard if uEnv.txt is properly configured?? Aug 03 19:50:47 yes Aug 03 19:50:56 no button interraction required Aug 03 19:51:03 ok, then this really might be a android image problem Aug 03 19:51:12 I'll try with an empty sdcard Aug 03 19:51:26 id have to look at it physically to get some idea personally. Aug 03 19:51:32 well empty wont help either Aug 03 19:51:46 even if the sd card is empty you need uEnv.txton the card Aug 03 19:51:49 however Aug 03 19:52:00 m_billybob, but with an empty sdcard, I should get the behaviour without the sdcard Aug 03 19:52:13 I am not trying to boot from the sdcard... Aug 03 19:52:21 doesnt matter Aug 03 19:52:26 bookmark this Aug 03 19:52:27 http://spirilis.net/junk/uEnv.txt Aug 03 19:52:34 ok, I'll read Aug 03 19:53:01 those are the parameters you will want in uEnv.txt file on the sdcard if you wish to boot from the eMMC on the BBB Aug 03 19:53:14 ( with uSD card inseerted ) Aug 03 19:53:27 eMMC is the internal disk I suppose Aug 03 19:53:32 yes Aug 03 19:53:46 ok, I'll try it/ Aug 03 19:53:47 onboard 2 gb flash if you prefer Aug 03 19:53:59 MrKeuner, do you have a link to the image you have used? Aug 03 19:54:12 dnil, yes, just a sec Aug 03 19:58:24 dnil, http://downloads.ti.com/sitara_android/esd/TI_Android_DevKit/TI_Android_JB_4_2_2_DevKit_4_1_1/index_FDS.html Aug 03 19:58:34 cliked on beaglebone black link Aug 03 19:58:39 for the image Aug 03 19:59:49 dnil, wrong image...? Aug 03 19:59:56 MrKeuner, thanks. I'm curious to see in which format they send this out... Aug 03 20:00:08 no problem Aug 03 20:01:01 Anyone have a favourite motor controller/servo driver/stepper driver board for the BBB? Aug 03 20:34:03 hi Aug 03 20:34:20 whats up Aug 03 20:37:07 * mranostay goes outside Aug 03 20:37:46 there is outside? Aug 03 20:39:17 Outside is scary! Aug 03 20:46:40 what's "outside"? Aug 03 20:48:01 outside, you know that hot, and bright place beyong the front door Aug 03 20:48:09 beyond Aug 03 20:48:30 "front door", what's that? Aug 03 20:48:53 you dont get out much i take it. they chain you to your desk / workbench ? Aug 03 20:49:20 just got back from pub actually Aug 03 20:49:31 was it good ? Aug 03 20:50:08 they always have good beer Aug 03 20:50:42 Oh thats right, you're not in the US lol yeap always good beer the other side of the pond Aug 03 20:51:10 * m_billybob is partial to a good German heffe weissen Aug 03 20:51:23 there's only one 'f' Aug 03 20:51:28 the crossdresser turned up... Aug 03 20:52:10 I think he fancies the girl with a fake leg Aug 03 20:52:19 I'm not making this up Aug 03 20:52:59 dont think ill ever quite understand cross dressing. Aug 03 20:53:12 me neither Aug 03 20:53:18 but to each his own Aug 03 20:53:37 maybe they like the way what they're wearing so much it is too much to resist ? Aug 03 20:53:39 yeap Aug 03 20:53:57 err Aug 03 20:54:02 yeah somethign like that Aug 03 21:00:36 Love how windows cringes when i download a zip file from my own Linux server Aug 03 21:00:46 "wanring this file migh contain harmful files !" Aug 03 21:04:36 m_billybob: feed it http://swtch.com/r.zip Aug 03 21:06:42 sounds like a possibly bad idea Aug 03 21:08:57 s/bad/fun/ Aug 03 21:19:10 i'll take your word for it ;) Aug 03 21:20:14 need a project, somethign i can see results from, without having to do any electronics . .hmmm Aug 03 21:40:51 m_billybob: but electronics is fun Aug 03 21:41:06 and you can easily get results Aug 03 21:41:15 in the form of smoke Aug 03 22:43:41 Hi, I'm trying to connect to the Beaglebone Black from my Fedora laptop via serial communication with the USB cable. However, I can't seem to get a connection. It works with SSH though Aug 03 22:44:30 By running the command setserial, I have the port I should go through (/dev/ttyS0) Aug 03 22:45:35 But when I try using the screen command in CLI or Putty (with baudrate 115200), nothing happens Aug 03 22:46:01 would someone have any ideas? Aug 03 22:46:53 Are you sure it’s ttyS0 and not, say, ttyUSB0? Aug 03 22:49:00 I tried that too, but nothing Aug 03 22:49:45 When I run "dmesg | grep tty", it gives me ttyACM0 though Aug 03 22:49:54 KotH, see the comment #79 Aug 03 22:50:03 * mranostay bikes in Crofton|work Aug 03 22:50:07 *into Aug 03 22:50:31 heh Aug 03 22:50:52 Crofton|work: comment #79? Aug 03 22:56:06 http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/79 ? Aug 03 22:56:31 that's what i first thought, but there is no context for that Aug 03 22:56:45 eh, go figure. I tried again and it worked this time... Aug 03 22:56:48 does lsd need context/ Aug 03 22:56:50 ? Aug 03 22:57:09 rainbows do not need context, they are Aug 03 22:57:40 hey guys, i wonder what would surge more power from the board: a edimax very compact wireless dongle or using the ethernet.. Aug 03 22:58:40 beaglebone black ^ Aug 03 22:58:50 wireless probably uses more power than wired Aug 03 22:59:06 and I am not a fan of edimax Aug 03 22:59:20 me neither but this edimax works exceptionally well in a raspberry pi Aug 03 22:59:21 two of their GbE switches have died on me Aug 03 22:59:47 heat probably? Aug 03 22:59:55 I don't care what Aug 03 22:59:59 they shouldn't do that Aug 03 23:00:03 and/or lack of proper electrical protection Aug 03 23:00:16 and the rather more expensive netgear managed switches I replaced them with have been fine Aug 03 23:00:20 KotH: this is a context channel Aug 03 23:00:24 *contextless Aug 03 23:00:57 god i really need something more powerful to do HDR Aug 03 23:01:12 how about a canon 1dx? Aug 03 23:01:13 like the newest imac? Aug 03 23:02:06 processing is a bottle neck Aug 03 23:02:15 only 2GB of ram on my MBA Aug 03 23:02:25 memory bound rather Aug 03 23:02:29 get a real computer Aug 03 23:02:34 what camera are you using anyway? Aug 03 23:02:43 Canon T2i Aug 03 23:02:49 a rebel Aug 03 23:02:54 get a single-digit canon Aug 03 23:03:05 you won't need hdr for most things Aug 03 23:03:26 i just sold my nikon d7000 for a panasonic mirrorless g5 and the loss of weight and ease of use still astoishes me Aug 03 23:03:55 there's no substitute for proper optics Aug 03 23:04:04 and good glass is heavy Aug 03 23:04:26 technically yes but i can now frame properly and take better shots with this little light toy :) Aug 03 23:04:36 canon L lenses are just awesome Aug 03 23:04:45 and still expensive Aug 03 23:04:58 matter of opinion Aug 03 23:05:11 you can get some really good ones for less than $2k Aug 03 23:05:31 again 2k is expensive :) Aug 03 23:05:44 mranostay: intel don't pay well? Aug 03 23:07:22 the 24-105mm should be about $1k Aug 03 23:07:32 if that Aug 03 23:08:19 it's one of my favourite lenses Aug 03 23:09:58 rotfl... Aug 03 23:10:18 googling for pressure cookers and backpacks is now considered a terrorist threat! Aug 03 23:10:33 no it's not Aug 03 23:10:41 http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/08/01/1228194/-Wife-searches-online-pressure-cookers-husband-a-backpack-Terrorism-task-force-shows-up-at-house Aug 03 23:10:47 the guy's former employer tipped of the police Aug 03 23:11:01 he'd searched for "pressure cooker bomb" at work Aug 03 23:11:06 lol Aug 03 23:11:19 perhaps a bit extreme to call the police Aug 03 23:11:25 maybe some kind of revenge Aug 03 23:11:29 probably Aug 03 23:11:30 we don't know why he was fired Aug 03 23:11:47 well, good thing nobody is monitoring my search queries Aug 03 23:12:08 i'd have a daily visit at least Aug 03 23:12:22 and the police quickly concluded there was nothing to worry about Aug 03 23:12:44 as far as we know, they did exactly what they should Aug 03 23:12:47 i find it worrysome that they had to show up on weak evidence like this Aug 03 23:12:59 we don't know what they were told Aug 03 23:13:33 and the report suggests they were only there for a few minutes Aug 04 00:52:54 JIHAD w/pressure cookers full of chocolate trolls! Aug 04 00:53:14 * kd0vyu back from the pool, drunk Aug 04 01:14:31 anyone have experiene getting wifi working? I got my drivers working (I can scan and detect networks) but cant seem to figure out how to tell it to connect Aug 04 02:52:28 chocolate trolls Aug 04 02:52:30 beer trolls Aug 04 02:52:35 any trolls? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Aug 04 02:59:58 2013