**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Aug 10 02:59:58 2013
Aug 10 03:07:33 <Steven_> hello, any arround?
Aug 10 03:12:41 <lispghost> hi I want to burn my OS from SD card to eMMC ,before I plug in my usb power supply,I hold down the boot button,and plug in my usb power supply,waiting for the 4 user led flick,then I unlocked the boot button waiting for burning the OS from SD card to eMMC but after nearly 2 hours ,the 4 user led didi not lit solid
Aug 10 03:16:52 <Steven_> I know the answer!
Aug 10 03:17:07 <Steven_> U didn't burn an eemc version
Aug 10 03:17:48 <Steven_> lispghost, follow these instructions: http://circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=Updating_The_Software
Aug 10 03:18:27 <Steven_> *also download the file the version they link to
Aug 10 03:18:50 <lispghost> Steven_, thank you let me see it
Aug 10 03:47:01 <nomel> hrmm, so if you round pi to 3, you should round it to 4  (pi*4/3 - 1)% of the time...then you're good.
Aug 10 03:47:42 <nomel> pwm pi.
Aug 10 03:48:03 <nomel> lol, wrong channel.
Aug 10 03:55:35 <Shadyman> nice, nomel.
Aug 10 03:59:03 <sassy> i am developing a project in which i need to connect a usb camera to the beagleboard xm to input live feed into the board so as to further transmit the image to a pc connected to it... can anyone give an idea as to how to connect the beagleboard to the camera
Aug 10 04:16:23 <m_billybob> beers !
Aug 10 04:19:24 <m_billybob> What no second ?
Aug 10 04:30:25 <nomel> i'm looking at power consumption for the bbb in the reference manual
Aug 10 04:30:29 <nomel> what clock speed was this for?
Aug 10 04:30:32 <nomel> and is this max cpu?
Aug 10 04:31:47 <nomel> with disk activity, etc.
Aug 10 04:32:20 <nomel> i'm afraid this is a "typical power usage" or something useless like that.
Aug 10 04:35:30 <m_billybob> max amperage acording to the SRM is ~460mA
Aug 10 04:35:40 <m_billybob> thats BBB draw btw
Aug 10 04:36:33 <nomel> that doesn't make sense to me though.
Aug 10 04:36:46 <nomel> the old bb had to derate cpu clock to stay under 500
Aug 10 04:36:54 <nomel> yet the reference manual shows *no* change in current.
Aug 10 04:37:37 <m_billybob> well i cant say for angstrom but the version of debian I am using actually runs at 30Mhz
Aug 10 04:37:46 <nomel> does this mean they were able to get so under the power budget that the new cpu can run 17% faster, and still stay under 500ma?
Aug 10 04:37:52 <m_billybob> 300Mhz, until i load the processor
Aug 10 04:38:07 <m_billybob> where it then scales up to 1Ghz
Aug 10 04:38:07 <nomel> actually...i haven't looked at mine.
Aug 10 04:38:16 <nomel> so it does make it to 1GHz.
Aug 10 04:38:18 <nomel> hrmm.
Aug 10 04:39:00 <nomel> if i plug in a 100mA usb perepheral, will it jump to 560mA I wonder?
Aug 10 04:39:10 <m_billybob> http://pastebin.com/gb7y6v1B
Aug 10 04:39:38 <m_billybob> asl Gerald on the groups
Aug 10 04:39:41 <m_billybob> ask*
Aug 10 04:40:39 <nomel> it's just hard for me to believe they found a way to save that much power.
Aug 10 04:40:53 <nomel> and still get 17% higher clock.
Aug 10 04:41:04 <m_billybob> ask Gerald on the groups. No one is going ot know more about the hardware than Gerald
Aug 10 04:41:19 <m_billybob> since he designed the BBB.
Aug 10 04:42:27 <nomel> ...a power meter is closer than my google groups browser tab.
Aug 10 04:42:29 <nomel> :)
Aug 10 04:42:45 <nomel> and then i don't have to trust someone else :D
Aug 10 04:42:55 <m_billybob> so do an let us know.
Aug 10 04:43:11 <m_billybob> and hurry up whilst you're at it
Aug 10 04:43:21 <m_billybob> tapping my foot . . .
Aug 10 04:43:34 <nomel> FINE. heading to the lab (i lied about the nearness)
Aug 10 04:43:39 <m_billybob> lol
Aug 10 04:44:07 <m_billybob> Gerald is actually one smart dude so yeah whatever you like, he probably cant give you exact figures but he could give yo ua rough idea
Aug 10 04:45:07 <m_billybob> my understanding that the BBB with no external periphs attacked max load amperage is ~460mA
Aug 10 04:45:15 <m_billybob> attached*
Aug 10 04:45:47 <m_billybob> add external periphs then that figure will go up
Aug 10 04:46:13 <m_billybob> but, no one says i have to understand everythign correctly.
Aug 10 04:49:44 <nomel> 350mA booting from sd
Aug 10 04:50:08 <m_billybob> what is it with ethernet plugged in ?
Aug 10 04:50:21 <m_billybob> im curious
Aug 10 04:50:32 <nomel> ethernet, booting from sd card
Aug 10 04:50:50 <nomel> no usb stuffs
Aug 10 04:50:58 <m_billybob> then USB plugged in figures then all would be cool too
Aug 10 04:51:01 <m_billybob> ah bummer
Aug 10 04:51:18 <m_billybob> not even a USB thumb drive ?
Aug 10 04:51:52 <nomel> i'll plug in an optical mouse and see what happens.
Aug 10 04:52:25 <m_billybob> I could do some testing here too but all i have is a kill-a-watt meter
Aug 10 04:52:46 <m_billybob> well i do have a cheap voltmeter that may have amps on it too but meh
Aug 10 04:53:53 <nomel> wow
Aug 10 04:54:11 <nomel> so, streaming writes to the sd, cpu at 100% 1GHz, it's at 356.
Aug 10 04:54:25 <nomel> err...wait.
Aug 10 04:54:55 <m_billybob> grrrr . .. just saw a camel spider run across my wall . . .
Aug 10 04:55:04 <m_billybob> good thign these arent IRAW size
Aug 10 04:55:13 <m_billybob> iraq size*
Aug 10 04:55:21 <m_billybob> id have to break out the 12 guage
Aug 10 04:55:22 <nomel> 415
Aug 10 04:55:26 <nomel> mA
Aug 10 04:55:36 <nomel> (i wasn't flushing the writes)
Aug 10 04:56:47 <m_billybob> sounds reasonable
Aug 10 04:56:59 <nomel> so, starts at 290mA idle, with ethernet. 350mA for 100% cpu. 410mA for 100% cpu and disk activity.
Aug 10 04:57:26 <nomel> lol. so, that gives your cape 50mA before you're over budget.
Aug 10 04:57:49 <nomel> i'm sorry, 90mA before you exceed usb.
Aug 10 04:58:08 <nomel> hahha, i can see the power from the heartbeat led.
Aug 10 04:58:12 <m_billybob> i did some testing with debian. the CPU doesnt scale to 1Ghz until around 89% CPU usage. but i never did see anything higher than 300Mhz either. I blame usleep()
Aug 10 04:58:47 <m_billybob> well i mean it seemed to be either 300Mhz or 1 Ghz
Aug 10 04:58:57 <m_billybob> i didn tsee anything inbetween
Aug 10 04:59:41 <nomel> idle with usb optical mouse goes up to 460mA.
Aug 10 04:59:44 <nomel> :D
Aug 10 05:00:05 <m_billybob> ethernet plugged in too ?
Aug 10 05:00:24 <dz0004455> has anyone ever run geekbench on a beagleboard black?
Aug 10 05:00:36 <m_billybob> wtf is geekbench
Aug 10 05:00:56 <nomel> so, his numbers are good!
Aug 10 05:01:01 <nomel> yeah, ethernet in.
Aug 10 05:01:23 <m_billybob> nomel i wonder what it'd scale to if you start using some I/O
Aug 10 05:01:41 <m_billybob> got a serial debug cable or a FDTI module to plug in ?
Aug 10 05:01:46 <m_billybob> ;)
Aug 10 05:02:33 <m_billybob> i think typicaly though the rought estimate is 6mA each GPIO whcih is generic max for most MCU's
Aug 10 05:02:37 <nomel> ethernet is about 90mA!
Aug 10 05:02:53 <dz0004455> geekbench is performance benchmark tool.
Aug 10 05:03:14 <m_billybob> dz0004455 most likely not. though you can check the beagleboard groups
Aug 10 05:03:26 <m_billybob> I dont think most people care.
Aug 10 05:03:48 <m_billybob> err i think most people dont care
Aug 10 05:03:58 <m_billybob> something like that
Aug 10 05:04:40 <nomel> agreed. most people use the beaglebone to do something somewhat specific.
Aug 10 05:04:41 * m_billybob spots some white cheddar cheese-its string at him from across the room
Aug 10 05:04:51 * m_billybob pounces
Aug 10 05:04:57 <nomel> it didn't have a chance.
Aug 10 05:05:18 <nomel> so, totally idle, it's at 140mA.
Aug 10 05:05:30 <nomel> with excursions to 143mA each time the heartbeat blinks :)
Aug 10 05:05:34 <m_billybob> nothing attched ?
Aug 10 05:05:41 <nomel> right
Aug 10 05:05:49 <m_billybob> thats prety low
Aug 10 05:06:08 <nomel> this is the 30-7-2013 image.
Aug 10 05:06:14 <nomel> with cloud9 and all that crap.
Aug 10 05:06:29 <nomel> but, i can't imagine it's doing much.
Aug 10 05:07:03 <m_billybob> root@arm:~# uptime
Aug 10 05:07:03 <m_billybob>  22:07:05 up 3 days, 22:00,  2 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.05
Aug 10 05:07:19 <m_billybob> been on IRC with us here all that time so yeah not doing much
Aug 10 05:08:16 <m_billybob> still it is pretty cool that hmm it does have a USB HDD plugged in, so probably using ~2.5W-ish
Aug 10 05:08:20 <nomel> bah, damn dhcp lease length is nothing here.
Aug 10 05:08:37 <nomel> get a new ip every time i plug it in.
Aug 10 05:08:51 <m_billybob> static IP ftw
Aug 10 05:09:19 <nomel> static ip doesn't work when you have  afew hundred computers connected to your network :P
Aug 10 05:09:30 <m_billybob> sure it does.
Aug 10 05:09:38 <nomel> big spreadsheet?
Aug 10 05:09:44 <m_billybob> it picks one at some point you just keep that stic
Aug 10 05:09:52 <m_billybob> static*
Aug 10 05:10:08 <m_billybob> hard to type wit ha box of family size cheese-its in your lap ;)
Aug 10 05:12:46 <m_billybob> hmm suddenly having an icecream attack
Aug 10 05:13:00 <m_billybob> better polish off this pilsner first though
Aug 10 05:13:22 <m_billybob> Alchemy ale . . .
Aug 10 05:14:52 <m_billybob> man wish you all could see what thenight sky is like here. Amazing what 6k feet above sea level is like at night. Want to see a shooting star ? look up for 2 minutes, you see 2-3 lol
Aug 10 05:16:25 * mranostay should write his status report befoer another beer
Aug 10 05:16:41 <nomel> you should make some clock that uses the stars and a webcam to tell time.
Aug 10 05:16:53 <mranostay> google
Aug 10 05:17:09 <m_billybob> lady friend brought over a couple of straw-ber-ritas . ..followedup with a couple of these alchemy ales . ..
Aug 10 05:17:27 <m_billybob> im doing ok
Aug 10 05:17:57 <nomel> i've been into lambrusco lately.
Aug 10 05:18:03 <mranostay> and you are on the damn IRC?
Aug 10 05:18:11 <m_billybob> shes gone
Aug 10 05:18:27 <mranostay> because of your IRC use
Aug 10 05:18:45 <m_billybob> dont worry about me i take care of business ;)
Aug 10 05:19:04 <nomel> "check out this em-bed-ded Linux I've got going on over here...it's in my bedroom.
Aug 10 05:19:25 <mranostay> TMI maybe
Aug 10 05:19:36 <m_billybob> more like embeded pe . . .yeah <censored>
Aug 10 05:19:40 <nomel> unterminated quote. all your words belong to me!
Aug 10 05:19:57 * mranostay should finish the DDR support for the OLS on sigrok this weekend
Aug 10 05:20:11 <m_billybob> as i said dont worry about me i take care of business ;)
Aug 10 05:20:24 <m_billybob> mranostay eh ?
Aug 10 05:20:33 <m_billybob>  morex86 shenaniguns ?
Aug 10 05:20:48 <m_billybob> you guys at intel are all like . . .
Aug 10 05:21:01 <m_billybob> all alike.
Aug 10 05:21:18 <m_billybob> x86 this x86 that . . .
Aug 10 05:21:24 <mranostay> m_billybob: not x86 at all
Aug 10 05:21:35 <mranostay> open logic sniffer
Aug 10 05:21:43 <m_billybob> what ? x86-64 ? lol :P
Aug 10 05:22:01 <m_billybob> dont sweat me im just ribbin ya :)
Aug 10 05:22:13 <mranostay> m_billybob: for the record i'm a Intel newbie :P
Aug 10 05:22:21 * m_billybob knows
Aug 10 05:22:25 <nomel> bah. was going to ask you for a job, but never mind.
Aug 10 05:22:26 <nomel> :P
Aug 10 05:22:40 <nomel> mranostay: how's the "have a degree" culture there?
Aug 10 05:22:53 <mranostay> nomel: i don't have one
Aug 10 05:22:56 <nomel> i saw job listings for a lab tech that had bs requirement.
Aug 10 05:23:05 <nomel> i assumed it was bs, but wasn't sure.
Aug 10 05:23:19 <nomel> err...assumed it was the poopy kind of bs.
Aug 10 05:23:44 <m_billybob> underwater basket weaving major ?
Aug 10 05:23:59 <mranostay> nomel: depends on the people you know and location
Aug 10 05:24:43 <_av500_> mranostay: you dont have a culture?
Aug 10 05:24:47 <_av500_> fitting
Aug 10 05:25:13 <nomel> HR has a way of not caring what people say you're worth/can do though. :-\
Aug 10 05:25:34 <m_billybob> nomel again, depends on whom you know
Aug 10 05:25:34 <mranostay> nomel: again who you know
Aug 10 05:25:45 <m_billybob> in stereo !
Aug 10 05:25:49 <nomel> hahah, so get friendly with HR ladies. I see, I see.
Aug 10 05:25:50 <nomel> :P
Aug 10 05:26:02 <_av500_> yeah, that helps in a tech company
Aug 10 05:26:15 <mranostay> heh maybe but that isn't what i had in mind
Aug 10 05:26:28 <nomel> ...get friendly with HR...dudes?
Aug 10 05:26:38 <m_billybob> bring KY
Aug 10 05:26:46 <m_billybob> ;)
Aug 10 05:26:55 <nomel> kentucky? that popular down there?
Aug 10 05:27:07 <m_billybob> uh lol KY jelly
Aug 10 05:27:23 <m_billybob> p[laying off what *you* said
Aug 10 05:27:37 <nomel> you're drunk m_billybob
Aug 10 05:27:44 <m_billybob> am I ?
Aug 10 05:27:49 <mranostay> i am
Aug 10 05:27:54 * m_billybob isnt
Aug 10 05:28:03 <m_billybob> hardly buzzed
Aug 10 05:29:33 * m_billybob need half a fifth
Aug 10 05:29:54 <m_billybob> tequila vodka rum . ..
Aug 10 05:30:32 <m_billybob> anything buit wiskey or Gin ug
Aug 10 05:50:11 * mranostay walks to the bar to get more drunk
Aug 10 06:25:04 <ka6sox-Alyeska> we should put a bell on mranostay so when he gets back he doesn't trip on the cat.
Aug 10 06:28:37 <mrpackethead> right.
Aug 10 06:28:44 <mrpackethead> how is mr andrey-konovalov
Aug 10 06:35:11 <ka6sox-Alyeska> he is well
Aug 10 06:35:27 <ka6sox-Alyeska> my sentence to this cold desolate place is almost up.
Aug 10 07:16:38 <lispghost> any differences between BBB-eMMC-falsher-debian-7.1.img and debian-wheezy-7.0.0-armhf.img?
Aug 10 07:16:59 <lispghost> if I want to burn OS to eMMC from SD card
Aug 10 07:17:05 <lispghost> which one should I use?
Aug 10 07:17:49 <_av500_> no idea
Aug 10 07:18:02 <_av500_> flasher sounds like it flashes
Aug 10 07:24:25 <lispghost> _av500_, lol
Aug 10 07:35:05 <nickz> is there csl for beageboard-xm ?
Aug 10 07:36:12 <ka6sox-Alyeska> what is csl?
Aug 10 07:36:57 <nickz> chip support library for ccs5
Aug 10 07:45:19 <brimestone> hey guys.. i followed "codealpha" tutorial on BBB and Wifi.. but somehow, it doesnt connect..
Aug 10 07:45:36 <brimestone> how can i monitor the wifi.. see if where it fails
Aug 10 07:49:21 <ka6sox-Alyeska> soooo many "tutorials" sooo many difficulties
Aug 10 08:10:18 <mranostay> ka6sox-Alyeska: meese attack?
Aug 10 08:13:33 <brimestone> i dont think Angstrom sees my Edimax USB wireless dongle
Aug 10 08:14:07 <mranostay> brimestone: i have my eyes on you
Aug 10 08:15:13 <brimestone> mranostay: thanks.. i followed instruction to that dot.. but nothing.. iw dev wlan0 returns no device?
Aug 10 08:15:28 <brimestone> although; lsusb list the usb device
Aug 10 08:15:48 <brimestone> i have an 5V external power supply
Aug 10 08:16:02 <mranostay> that is the best voltage?
Aug 10 08:16:25 <brimestone> input?
Aug 10 08:16:34 <brimestone> no sure how to answer that
Aug 10 08:17:15 <brimestone> test-connman services; returns available wireless in my house.. so it seems to be working..
Aug 10 08:18:11 <brimestone> http://pastebin.com/6gH9zJkj
Aug 10 08:22:01 <brimestone> this is what dmesg shows.. http://pastebin.com/vnmUbSR8
Aug 10 08:23:52 <woglinde> brimestone and now?
Aug 10 08:24:36 <brimestone> now what?
Aug 10 08:24:45 <brimestone> run dmesg again?
Aug 10 08:32:43 <brimestone> tried to long in graphically via vnc. but i get stuck at "loging in"
Aug 10 08:37:47 <woglinde> vnc is bad over dsl lines
Aug 10 08:38:09 <brimestone> what??
Aug 10 08:38:30 <brimestone> are you a bot? just rambling away??
Aug 10 08:38:50 <woglinde> no
Aug 10 08:39:09 <woglinde> but I did a lot of hacking with vnc, freenx and so on
Aug 10 08:39:44 <brimestone> thats has no connection with my situation.. absolutely
Aug 10 08:40:15 <brimestone> vnc over dsl?? why would you assume that im running vnc across a dsl line?
Aug 10 08:50:04 <woglinde> I did not assume it
Aug 10 08:50:14 <woglinde> I only mentioned a fact
Aug 10 08:50:16 <mranostay> beer !!!!!
Aug 10 08:50:21 * mrpackethead sees a vnc troll
Aug 10 08:50:24 <woglinde> chips and popcorn
Aug 10 08:50:47 <mrpackethead> thats a species we have not seen since the opencv trolls left
Aug 10 08:52:06 <woglinde> thats like php, they dont see there is something better
Aug 10 08:52:50 <mrpackethead> weve almost got a working eagle model of BBB
Aug 10 08:52:55 <mrpackethead> almsot converted it
Aug 10 08:57:43 <hatguy> mrpackethead: will you be releasing that?
Aug 10 08:57:50 <mrpackethead> yes
Aug 10 08:58:03 <hatguy> mrpackethead: awesome!
Aug 10 08:58:40 * hatguy won't be able to get an Allegro license anytime soon
Aug 10 08:58:57 <mrpackethead> im about to buy altimum
Aug 10 09:00:20 <hatguy> I'm assuming that's cheaper than Allegro?
Aug 10 09:00:31 <mrpackethead> no,twice the price
Aug 10 09:01:40 <hatguy> really? woah...
Aug 10 09:03:39 <woglinde> what is allegro and altimum?
Aug 10 09:03:53 <mrpackethead> EAD software
Aug 10 09:04:04 <mrpackethead> schematic capture / pcb design
Aug 10 09:04:07 <_av500_> sound like designer drugs
Aug 10 09:04:28 <woglinde> ah right now eagle make sense
Aug 10 09:04:29 <mrpackethead> i want to spin a board up that is minus the junk
Aug 10 09:04:53 <mrpackethead> junk, aka hdmi
Aug 10 09:04:59 <mrpackethead> silly usb ports
Aug 10 09:05:54 <woglinde> silly usb ports?
Aug 10 09:06:18 <mrpackethead> yup
Aug 10 09:06:30 <mrpackethead> dont' need a usb port pn it
Aug 10 09:11:05 <_av500_> mrpackethead: maybe just take the bare SoC and run a few wires to it :)
Aug 10 09:11:17 <_av500_> dead bug style
Aug 10 09:11:22 <mrpackethead> yeah, someting like that
Aug 10 09:11:29 <mrpackethead> i'll just flatten the wires
Aug 10 09:11:39 <mrpackethead> put some special tape between the wires
Aug 10 09:11:41 <mrpackethead> hey its a pcb
Aug 10 09:12:16 <mrpackethead> i want to pull both ethernet ports out
Aug 10 09:12:22 <biot> mrpackethead: if you're going to transfer the design, why not to kicad? eagle is commercial, just as altium is
Aug 10 09:12:31 <biot> not trolling, just wondering
Aug 10 09:12:35 <mrpackethead> kicads a pile of ..
Aug 10 09:12:52 <desaster> moved from eagle to kicad
Aug 10 09:12:55 <desaster> it's a piece of .. but awesome
Aug 10 09:12:55 <mranostay> hi biot
Aug 10 09:13:04 <biot> what's the other open source one, besides kicad?
Aug 10 09:13:06 * mranostay has a effed sleep scheudle
Aug 10 09:13:22 <biot> mranostay: you keep odd hours, for a west coast person
Aug 10 09:13:43 <mrpackethead> i've just done a pretty big eval of the veraious systms
Aug 10 09:13:45 <viks> hey i want to do one simple application of ADC on beagleboard xm can anyone tell me how to do this???
Aug 10 09:13:57 <mranostay> was talking to a friend on the east coast till now
Aug 10 09:13:57 <mrpackethead> and the best return on investment for me will be with altimum
Aug 10 09:14:02 <biot> mrpackethead: be that as it may, what's the point in converting it to eagle? or the aim, I should say
Aug 10 09:14:14 <mranostay> she work's third shift so not too insane
Aug 10 09:14:34 <biot> mranostay: you mean work's thir'd shif't?
Aug 10 09:14:37 <mrpackethead> biot: because I can.. :-)
Aug 10 09:14:56 <mranostay> whatever man i'm not all sober :P
Aug 10 09:14:57 <biot> mrpackethead: for science?
Aug 10 09:16:46 * mranostay sleeps now
Aug 10 09:17:49 * KotH JIHADs now
Aug 10 09:18:41 <KotH> biot: the only oss eda offerings are kicad and geda
Aug 10 09:18:51 <biot> geda, right
Aug 10 09:18:55 <KotH> biot: and those are subpar to any comercial offering, even the simple ones
Aug 10 09:19:13 <biot> shame
Aug 10 09:19:23 <mranostay> KotH: keep the channel for allah while i sleep
Aug 10 09:19:47 <KotH> kicad seems to be designed by people with very little experience in eda, geda on the other hand is conglomerate of disjoint tools
Aug 10 09:19:53 <KotH> mranostay: dont worry, i will
Aug 10 09:20:29 <mrpackethead> what is the official religion of #beagle?
Aug 10 09:20:31 <KotH> biot: if i had to choose between the two,i would probaly go for kicad, even if it's the worse tool, for its simpler use
Aug 10 09:20:41 <KotH> mrpackethead: chocolate
Aug 10 09:21:11 <mrpackethead> I have started a church
Aug 10 09:21:17 <mrpackethead> Its called "ADR"
Aug 10 09:21:32 <mrpackethead> "Andrews Dodgy Religion"
Aug 10 09:21:45 <mrpackethead> KotH: you probably are not our target audience
Aug 10 09:21:56 <mrpackethead> we really only want stupid and gulliable people
Aug 10 09:22:16 <mrpackethead> rule 1.  we dont' care
Aug 10 09:22:24 <mrpackethead> rule 2. we dont' want 10% of your money
Aug 10 09:22:31 <mrpackethead> rule 3. we want 90%
Aug 10 09:22:53 <mrpackethead> rule 4. we dont' care what you do as long as you comply with rule #4
Aug 10 09:23:06 <KotH> woglinde: do you have any opinions on boost?
Aug 10 09:23:51 <KotH> mrpackethead: if you do not pray to the mighty DCT, then this religion cannot be tollerated in #beagle!
Aug 10 09:24:23 <mrpackethead> KotH: the next thign you'll be telling me is that we can only installed ubtuntu
Aug 10 09:24:48 <KotH> http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/223
Aug 10 09:25:50 <KotH> hmm.. maybe i should pick up some theology
Aug 10 09:26:00 <mrpackethead> http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/5
Aug 10 09:26:17 <KotH> http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/178
Aug 10 09:26:20 <mrpackethead> i do not belive i have been quoted
Aug 10 09:26:34 <KotH> http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/153
Aug 10 09:27:00 <KotH> http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/187
Aug 10 09:27:01 <mrpackethead> ok, so how are you searching that
Aug 10 09:28:06 <KotH> http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/19
Aug 10 09:28:36 <KotH> 26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/pack
Aug 10 09:30:07 <mrpackethead> http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/888
Aug 10 09:30:35 <KotH> we only have 228 quotes sofar
Aug 10 09:33:45 <woglinde> koth boost is a good collection of libraries xxfor solving common problems
Aug 10 09:33:47 <woglinde> args
Aug 10 09:33:48 <kfoltman> we need to troll more
Aug 10 09:33:55 <woglinde> koth boost is a good collection of libraries for c++ solving common problems
Aug 10 09:34:15 <KotH> woglinde: how is the implementation done? halfway sane?
Aug 10 09:34:16 <kfoltman> final solution for the C++ problem?
Aug 10 09:34:35 <KotH> woglinde: implentation and api that is
Aug 10 09:34:36 <woglinde> kfoltman thats your interpretation
Aug 10 09:34:51 <woglinde> koth I did not look depp into it
Aug 10 09:34:56 <KotH> oki
Aug 10 09:34:58 <KotH> thanks!
Aug 10 09:35:02 <woglinde> but you can check out the websites
Aug 10 09:35:10 * KotH has done that already
Aug 10 09:35:11 <woglinde> but I think boost is over 10 years old
Aug 10 09:35:12 <woglinde> #
Aug 10 09:35:17 <KotH> but there are things you dont see until you use it
Aug 10 09:35:35 * KotH knows things that are over 10 years old and are shit
Aug 10 09:35:38 <KotH> like wxwindows
Aug 10 09:35:55 <kfoltman> woglinde: it's still being updated
Aug 10 09:36:02 <woglinde> hm I somehow dont like wx
Aug 10 09:36:29 <KotH> ok, that might be too harsh. wxwindows was great when it was designed. but it was too short sighted and people dont seem to have known anything but windows and a very little bit of x11
Aug 10 09:36:35 <kfoltman> wxwindows... just say no
Aug 10 09:37:00 <KotH> so they made the bad design choices of windows part of their design
Aug 10 09:37:42 <woglinde> http://www.boost.org/users/uses_open.html
Aug 10 09:38:28 <woglinde> some games is using it
Aug 10 09:38:34 <woglinde> like battle of wesnoth
Aug 10 09:40:41 <KotH> well, i'm more interested in the bad parts of an implementation than the good parts
Aug 10 09:41:00 <woglinde> hm
Aug 10 09:41:08 <woglinde> use the source luke
Aug 10 09:41:16 <KotH> people bitching about something tell a lot more about how good something is than the people who praise it :)
Aug 10 09:41:26 <mrpackethead> what are you trolling KotH
Aug 10 09:41:39 <kfoltman> KotH: or about those people ;)
Aug 10 09:41:41 <KotH> mostly myself
Aug 10 09:41:45 <KotH> kfoltman: :)
Aug 10 09:42:00 <woglinde> koth thinks I should do the evaluation for him
Aug 10 09:42:09 <KotH> that too :)
Aug 10 09:42:17 <mrpackethead> of what?
Aug 10 09:42:33 <KotH> boost
Aug 10 09:42:45 <mrpackethead> whats boost
Aug 10 09:42:47 <KotH> woglinde: well, there was a good chance that you already had done such an evaluation :)
Aug 10 09:42:54 <mrpackethead> boost here is a type of fruit juice
Aug 10 09:43:04 <KotH> mrpackethead: a c++ library collection of various stuff
Aug 10 09:43:06 <KotH> http://www.boost.org
Aug 10 09:43:44 <kfoltman> mrpackethead: here, it's a red bull clone
Aug 10 09:44:04 <kfoltman> as in, caffeine-taurine drink
Aug 10 09:44:37 * KotH remembers a time, when redbull had to be smuggled over the border, because it was illegal to sell it in .ch
Aug 10 09:45:02 <kfoltman> sounds overly puritanical
Aug 10 09:45:17 <kfoltman> or the .ch gov't is a concern troll
Aug 10 09:45:18 <mrpackethead> me remembers when dope was legal and growing everywhere in .ch.. double standards
Aug 10 09:45:22 <KotH> nah.. it violated some regulations on the content of a drink
Aug 10 09:45:32 <KotH> too much caffein or something, dont remember
Aug 10 09:45:53 <KotH> mrpackethead: that was >100y ago
Aug 10 09:46:02 <KotH> mrpackethead: i doubt you remember that :)
Aug 10 09:46:12 <mrpackethead> that was 2000!!
Aug 10 09:46:24 <KotH> ah...
Aug 10 09:46:35 <KotH> there was a short period when people discussed to legalize it again
Aug 10 09:46:45 <mrpackethead> legal or not
Aug 10 09:46:48 <mrpackethead> it was everywhere
Aug 10 09:46:51 <KotH> so the police didnt ccare much
Aug 10 09:52:24 <biot> yes but never mind the dope in .ch
Aug 10 09:52:40 <biot> let's discus that poor oprah and the $25000 handbag she couldn't have
Aug 10 09:52:50 <biot> I cried, goddammit
Aug 10 09:53:46 <KotH> stupidity prevails!
Aug 10 11:20:34 <KotH> mru: http://i.imgur.com/pCKQizZ.jpg
Aug 10 11:53:18 <mru> KotH: heh
Aug 10 12:56:21 <Willdude123> What pins is TTYO2 on?
Aug 10 13:09:35 <Willdude123> TTYo2 is known as what in the SRM?
Aug 10 14:12:34 <paul_> hi guys, anyone here tried connecting five-dollar usb-wifi adapters to BBB? what was your experience?
Aug 10 14:44:51 <mru> a five-dollar usb experience, no doubt
Aug 10 14:46:51 <kfoltman> mru: is that like a five dollar whore, but with more AIDS?
Aug 10 14:58:52 <brimestone> hey guys.. im on BBB Angstrom. it installed Wifi and everytime i try to systemctl restart connman.service, it freezes
Aug 10 15:00:10 <brimestone> i get it to blink the USB dongle.. but not connection.. not sure whats happening during the handshake
Aug 10 17:16:28 <brunora> hi
Aug 10 17:17:01 <brunora> i'm using ubuntu on my BBB, i can't make it see any storage device such as my micro usd or external hd
Aug 10 17:20:33 <woglinde> try to use a powered hub
Aug 10 17:21:13 <mru> http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/9
Aug 10 17:22:07 <brunora> should i see them with fdisk or theres another way to check?
Aug 10 17:25:06 <brunora> and.. does it mount automatically or i have to type something?
Aug 10 17:39:42 <mranostay> morning
Aug 10 17:48:26 <mru> moroning mranostay
Aug 10 17:59:10 <mranostay> hey
Aug 10 18:01:58 <mranostay> how is it mru world?
Aug 10 18:02:07 <mranostay> dafty or punky?
Aug 10 18:02:18 <mru> ipv6y
Aug 10 18:10:12 <Kha123> Hi
Aug 10 18:10:16 <Kha123> Hi
Aug 10 18:10:41 <mranostay> heh
Aug 10 18:10:55 <mranostay> TIL yemen has internet access
Aug 10 18:16:10 <mru> with or without porn?
Aug 10 18:20:32 * mru now has completely unfiltered internet
Aug 10 18:58:07 <confused> anyone know where a good online tutorial for beagleboard black is? I've been through the "getting started" stuff, and it's basically working via USB now, but I don't really know where to go from here.
Aug 10 18:59:48 <dm8tbr> hmm?
Aug 10 18:59:53 <dm8tbr> what do you want to do?
Aug 10 19:00:59 <confused> I've used python a bit, but am pretty new at it. Java too. I just want to write some basic programs. Eventually, I want to be able to plug in a keyboard and do keystroke statistics, but I think that's a ways off.
Aug 10 19:01:08 <woglinde> yes its intressting buying a board and dont know what to do with it
Aug 10 19:01:22 <woglinde> gnaubasic?
Aug 10 19:01:31 <woglinde> ups or was it freebasic
Aug 10 19:02:36 <confused> I got the blinking LED demo working, sort of. It only runs about every 5th time I execute it. Not sure what the problem is. Also, GateOne SSH won't launch properly. I just want to do some hello world type stuff.
Aug 10 23:18:47 <shabaz> Hello, the second post here: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=51504&p=397796 are there really any things like this that people are experiencing? I ask, because I have not seen any, and I've been using the BBB intensively for three months via the network connection.
Aug 10 23:25:27 <ka6sox-Alyeska> so long...from Alyeska
Aug 10 23:25:58 <emeb_mac> all done?
Aug 10 23:30:05 <shabaz> think so.. everybody done for today
Aug 11 00:55:58 <nickbbb> hi guys
Aug 11 00:56:24 <nickbbb> anyone know of a canadian distributor based in the GTA toronto area?
Aug 11 00:58:57 <W1N9Zr0> creatron had some BBBs last time i was there
Aug 11 01:07:07 <nickbbb> thanks! yup they still do
Aug 11 01:19:49 <XFaCE> hi yall
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