**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Aug 16 02:59:58 2013 Aug 16 03:18:11 Trying to update the 3.8.13-bone21 to 3.8.13-bone24 kernel in ubuntu - doesn't seem to do it via apt-get - any ideas? Aug 16 04:44:11 emeb_mac: the children of america thank you for the Bbb Aug 16 04:44:27 :) Aug 16 04:44:31 why? Aug 16 04:44:57 becuase the bcc cape, will be enteraining them Aug 16 04:45:15 how's that? Aug 16 04:45:32 they are in some custom show controllers Aug 16 04:45:33 :-) Aug 16 04:45:42 oh fun! Aug 16 04:45:55 lvoe these FPGA's Aug 16 04:46:55 we've had aosme biggy earthquqkes today Aug 16 04:47:03 a 6.9 Aug 16 04:47:30 island is sinking!!! Aug 16 04:48:41 bcc cape went flying Aug 16 04:48:45 and hit the ground Aug 16 04:48:48 :-( Aug 16 05:12:20 thinking of buying a beaglebone black can the 48X2 headers be used as inputs Aug 16 05:13:17 hello everyone. Aug 16 05:13:43 mrpacket_ dead doornail now ? Aug 16 05:13:57 dustindsh078, yes Aug 16 05:14:01 dead_doornail? Aug 16 05:14:03 after a fashion Aug 16 05:14:11 mrpacket_ your bcc cape Aug 16 05:14:16 no, its fine Aug 16 05:14:20 cool Aug 16 05:14:23 it was attached in a box Aug 16 05:14:55 why did it go flying ? ( i just got in ) Aug 16 05:14:58 You're in NZ? Aug 16 05:14:59 * m_billybob scrolls up Aug 16 05:15:44 an earthquae tried eating your bcc cape ? yikes Aug 16 05:15:49 ka6sox ty Aug 16 05:15:58 6.9 thats not joke, how long did it last ? Aug 16 05:16:04 no joke* Aug 16 05:16:19 30secs or so Aug 16 05:16:30 yeouch , everythign else good ? Aug 16 05:16:39 yes, no real damage Aug 16 05:16:45 but it was scary enough Aug 16 05:17:12 im native californian, so yeah i know . . . Aug 16 05:17:26 you guys been gettign hit hard down there the last few years though Aug 16 05:18:00 well i *was* native californian, but yeah just meant i know what you mean Aug 16 05:18:28 45 aftershakes over 4 Aug 16 05:18:32 since then Aug 16 05:18:44 mrpacket_, aren't you on North Island? Aug 16 05:18:49 aftershoke ? Aug 16 05:18:49 yes Aug 16 05:19:01 aftershocks* Aug 16 05:19:06 still on the same plate however Aug 16 05:19:45 we are on teh intersection of two plates Aug 16 05:19:48 thats the real problme Aug 16 05:20:21 Usually is... Aug 16 05:21:46 mrpacket_, I'm about as far away as you are too Aug 16 05:22:01 ahh, that was anotehr one Aug 16 05:23:02 the city has pretty tight building codes Aug 16 05:23:35 are you in upper or lower? Aug 16 05:26:44 i'm 30km north of wellignton Aug 16 05:26:46 https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/1006067_10151803292257661_1823566689_n.jpg Aug 16 05:27:06 interesitng. wodner if the 420ml bottles have a resonance Aug 16 05:27:15 that the 600ml bottles did'nt Aug 16 05:27:20 and is'tn coke a rip off Aug 16 05:27:31 I see more than 10pins there Aug 16 05:27:39 and you left a Split too... Aug 16 05:28:02 i got a split the other day Aug 16 05:28:05 was really impressed Aug 16 05:28:06 :) Aug 16 05:28:17 one of the so called impossibel ones Aug 16 05:28:20 too much heatdpin Aug 16 05:28:23 er headpin Aug 16 07:00:20 ok i'm over that Aug 16 07:00:27 5.0, 5.7 Aug 16 07:00:36 goddamnit gmail Aug 16 07:00:55 * mranostay hugs attaks mrpackethead Aug 16 07:01:04 65 earthquakes over 5.0 in the last 4 hours Aug 16 07:01:11 after then 6.5 Aug 16 07:01:26 mrpackethead: geez NZ get that many? Aug 16 07:01:32 we are today Aug 16 07:01:35 * mranostay has never felt one Aug 16 07:01:49 never felt them like this. Aug 16 07:02:58 swarm it seems Aug 16 07:03:23 http://geonet.org.nz/p/earthquake/drums/latest/wel-seismic-drum.png Aug 16 07:03:29 been almost a year I think since there was anything over 4.0 around here Aug 16 07:03:34 the drum says it all Aug 16 07:04:48 looks like they are centered around a pretty uninhabited area at least Aug 16 07:04:48 ufff Aug 16 07:05:05 my cousin moved there and they're definitely not happy about the shaking Aug 16 07:05:55 Vaizki, there is a reason its so ruggedly beautiful. Aug 16 07:06:56 hmm...usgs data seems woefully incomplete for nz Aug 16 07:07:49 ah, there you go, http://geonet.org.nz/quakes/statistics tells the story geographically Aug 16 07:08:44 no wonder nz has so many pretty features Aug 16 07:08:57 yea NZ is great.. I need to get back there Aug 16 07:09:14 NZ and Iceland both Aug 16 07:10:24 Russ, we honeymooned there...LOVE it... Aug 16 07:10:29 need to get back there again. Aug 16 07:10:35 ...wait, we did? Aug 16 07:10:38 what? Aug 16 07:10:48 dude.. and dude.. was this a vegas wedding? Aug 16 07:11:11 vegas wedding with a honeymoon in reno Aug 16 07:11:13 huh? Aug 16 07:11:22 my wife and I...sorry...too darned late... Aug 16 07:11:41 but hey, if anyone out there wants to fly me to new zealand Aug 16 07:11:41 * ka6sox backs out before he puts *other* foot in mouth. Aug 16 07:13:55 Hi, sorry to interrupt your conversation :) I'm new to this BeagleBone community (well; new to the whole CC-sized computing really), and wanted to know if any of you knew if the BBone Black would run a stable Android OS and if there was any guide as to how to install it ? I've been searching quite a bit, but cant seem to find one (may just be the lack of caffeine still). Aug 16 07:14:40 don't worry we'll just ignore you and continue on the gay marriage theme Aug 16 07:15:20 google seems to turn up quite a few interesting results Aug 16 07:15:29 (on android and rowboat/android) Aug 16 07:15:37 er, beaglebone and rowboat/android Aug 16 07:16:10 Then I might just be totally off with my searches - as said - new to this whole thing :) Thanks for showing me what to look for :) Aug 16 07:16:54 * mranostay scrolls up Aug 16 07:18:32 * mranostay regrets it Aug 16 07:22:07 they see me scrollin' - they hatin' Aug 16 07:22:46 * KotH scrolls down Aug 16 07:22:49 * KotH doesnt regret it Aug 16 07:22:49 * mranostay hates emeb_mac only emeb_mac Aug 16 07:23:25 It is Mt Doom getting active! Aug 16 07:23:39 ahoi Aug 16 07:23:47 arrr! Aug 16 07:23:55 have you tried the BBB builds of android? Aug 16 07:26:19 http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/29 Aug 16 07:27:31 still my favorite misspelling Aug 16 07:30:34 * KotH needs a slave living in the us Aug 16 07:31:05 +1 Aug 16 07:31:10 what you need yours for? Aug 16 07:31:25 shipping books Aug 16 07:31:44 ah Aug 16 07:31:46 directly shipping to .ch costs twice as much as letting someone in the us get them and just send them on Aug 16 07:32:03 I thought the same yesterday when googling some tubes :) Aug 16 07:32:35 but also to make the slave generally more miserable Aug 16 07:33:45 that too Aug 16 07:34:13 but you know, slaves have rights too! you have to give them meat once per week, and allow them to run away for two weeks per year Aug 16 07:36:41 two weeks? Aug 16 07:36:51 thats more off time than the regular wage slaves Aug 16 07:37:03 yeah.. Aug 16 07:37:07 it isnt as it used to be Aug 16 07:42:36 nod Aug 16 07:42:56 I got about 7 weeks total Aug 16 07:43:04 I'm a wealthy slave Aug 16 07:43:27 well, timewise Aug 16 07:46:10 das: yes, but you dont live in the land of the free Aug 16 07:48:43 av500: 'murica ? where citizens are free (ahem) and trading is free (sic) ? Aug 16 07:55:21 'murica, its like C, plenty of rope to hang yourself with, and the freedom to shoot yourself in the foot Aug 16 07:56:01 does look like the NSA is a GC though Aug 16 07:58:00 Russ: and enough people who have no clue about C and shoot themselves and others? Aug 16 08:01:15 every day Aug 16 08:02:05 you only have BASIC rights Aug 16 08:03:24 your rights are just a PROLOG? Aug 16 08:03:38 what are we arguing about folks Aug 16 08:03:44 not a clue Aug 16 08:03:54 dissapointing Aug 16 08:05:18 mrpackethead: we talk politiks Aug 16 08:05:44 av500: can i install opencv for my homework project Aug 16 08:06:31 in the cloud preferrably Aug 16 08:06:33 mrpackethead: no you cannot Aug 16 08:06:52 this channel has gone to the dogs Aug 16 08:07:01 Aug 16 08:07:16 someone let us out ! Aug 16 08:08:17 one my scope probe tips fell off, wanting to glue it back with a drop of super glue, my coworker warned me I am changing the dielectric properties Aug 16 08:08:22 sometimes I want to slap people Aug 16 08:09:22 to change their dielectric properties Aug 16 08:09:28 permanently Aug 16 08:09:55 wow, it must be a 50GHz for someone to care about a little bit of superglue Aug 16 08:10:08 don't those scopes come with a permanent on site fae? Aug 16 08:10:13 yeah Aug 16 08:13:07 In Angstrom, what is the correct way to disable the GUI so it boots to a console? A pointer to GOOD user docs for angstrom would helpful too. please and thank you :) Aug 16 08:16:55 hey guys, my beaglebone randomly started giving me lag over putty this morning, so irratating! is this common? Aug 16 08:17:15 short freezes every 3 seconds or so Aug 16 08:17:20 format in order? Aug 16 08:19:11 reinstall windows Aug 16 08:19:47 i have linux running Aug 16 08:24:20 av500: similar stuff here... got a ZS yesterday for using a 1mm trace between a power pin and its associated capacitor... in a 74lvcxxx design, clocked at a furious 1kHz! Aug 16 08:25:12 cverster: you could try connecting with a second putty terminal and running 'top' have a look for that is hogging cpu cycles. I'm not a BB spurt but that is how I'd do it on a PC flavor of *nix Aug 16 08:25:16 cverster: then why'd you use putty :S Aug 16 08:26:19 what is 'X'? Aug 16 08:26:44 x-window Aug 16 08:27:10 cverster: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System Aug 16 08:27:33 yea. can I kill that? Aug 16 08:28:05 if you don't want a windowing saystem Aug 16 08:28:16 and are happy with the console Aug 16 08:28:20 well, yes you can. do you want to, I'm not sure Aug 16 08:31:04 i dont really use windows Aug 16 08:31:11 windowind* Aug 16 08:31:26 yes, yes you do Aug 16 08:31:41 i just use console Aug 16 08:31:47 putty in console ? Aug 16 08:31:53 unless putty is a windowing system? Aug 16 08:32:52 ok, do that: save your current work, then kill X, see what happens then decide if you need it Aug 16 08:33:47 also, putty sucks Aug 16 08:34:36 KotH: zs? Aug 16 08:39:50 I want to kill X, and would like to find out how without using 'kill -9 xyz' every boot. A pointer to the config file to edit to prevent it from starting would be helpful. Or a pointer to the docs for learning how... Aug 16 08:40:06 tolip: see http://www.berriman.co.uk/beaglebone-black-bbb-simple-web-io/ remove unwanted services. basic idea: systemctl disable [someservice] Aug 16 08:40:21 thank you!!!!!!!!!! Aug 16 08:40:28 what is better than puttY? Aug 16 08:40:36 i could use a new terminal program :) Aug 16 08:41:04 Hyperterm Aug 16 08:41:09 screen Aug 16 08:41:18 a real VT100 Aug 16 08:41:38 lol, I got one of those Aug 16 08:41:43 minicom/picocom Aug 16 08:42:24 Procomm Aug 16 08:43:05 av500: miss the 90s much ? Aug 16 08:43:30 80's, no? Aug 16 08:43:33 and yes, badly Aug 16 08:43:54 what is a good terminal program for windows? Aug 16 08:43:58 I dunno, I hadn't spawn yet Aug 16 08:44:54 cverster: windows the OS ? Aug 16 08:45:02 ya Aug 16 08:45:05 your host is running windows ? Aug 16 08:45:15 i am programming my BBB from windows Aug 16 08:46:00 well, 1/ eww and 2/ hyperterm/putty Aug 16 08:46:31 * das installed his first Linux because putty sucked too much Aug 16 08:47:49 i think putty is pretty cool Aug 16 08:48:03 haha, we just agreed that putty should be avoided ;) Aug 16 08:48:35 well for ssh, for serial i use realterm Aug 16 08:49:10 cverster: why don't you dual boot linux for development ? Aug 16 08:49:36 you dont need to run linux to have a terminal emulator Aug 16 08:49:39 even XP can do that Aug 16 08:50:14 who wants to program directly on target ? Aug 16 08:50:15 das: do you think it'll be worth it? what are the advantages? Aug 16 08:50:33 I already have putty Aug 16 08:50:45 cverster: learn stuff ... how will you learn embedded linux if you don't know the basics ? Aug 16 08:50:57 im learning ;) Aug 16 08:51:02 or install linux in a VM, and wait to dual boot till you more familiar Aug 16 08:53:30 its friday Aug 16 08:54:12 y-e-a-h-! Aug 16 08:57:50 ha!: ...We are kind of “hamstrung” by the limitations of the 68pins... Aug 16 08:57:54 who'd have thought Aug 16 09:01:05 mrpackethead: is there an english word that means both via and trough hole contact? like the french "bastille" Aug 16 09:01:13 how do you kill X and metacity if their pid keeps changing? Aug 16 09:01:22 why kill? Aug 16 09:01:28 KotH: i'm not sure. Aug 16 09:01:37 their eating processor Aug 16 09:01:37 what do you mean by through hole contact Aug 16 09:01:39 also, rm -r /usr/bin/X Aug 16 09:01:57 cverster: killall X Aug 16 09:01:58 mrpackethead: a pad for a trough hole part, like DIL or something Aug 16 09:02:30 KotH: ? Aug 16 09:02:38 still a pad, no? Aug 16 09:02:40 its a pad Aug 16 09:02:45 like ye olde days Aug 16 09:02:56 when parts had wires left and right Aug 16 09:03:01 av500: that doesnt cover vias Aug 16 09:03:15 argh, i dont know why my bbb is lagging! Aug 16 09:04:15 KotH: "pastille" ? Aug 16 09:04:26 das: er.. yes... Aug 16 09:04:35 das: french is not my strong language ^^' Aug 16 09:04:50 anyone awake here? Aug 16 09:05:10 no Aug 16 09:05:13 wrong day Aug 16 09:05:16 .o0(Zzzz...) Aug 16 09:05:21 my eyes can barely stay open. Aug 16 09:05:47 av500: have you flashed a BBB emmc? Aug 16 09:05:58 truly I have Aug 16 09:06:19 av500: did the lights stay solid or flash wildly? Aug 16 09:06:22 monday: it's morning in seattle, you should be wide awake! Aug 16 09:06:35 morning? Aug 16 09:06:45 monday: they blink while it flashes Aug 16 09:06:45 yeah its way way early in the morning been up since 6 yesterday :( Aug 16 09:06:49 solid when done Aug 16 09:06:56 KotH, you mean *2* in the morning in Seattle Aug 16 09:07:00 KotH: yes, but he woke up 3 days early Aug 16 09:07:15 av500: thanx. dir says they stay lit so I just wanted to make sure its all working good. Aug 16 09:07:44 :) Aug 16 09:08:02 trying to get this done so I can go to bed and get some sleep :) Aug 16 09:08:11 av500: where you at? Aug 16 09:08:18 ka6sox: best time to get up and get some work done! Aug 16 09:08:19 my desk Aug 16 09:08:27 ka6sox: you, of all, should agree with that :) Aug 16 09:08:33 testing BBW usb rndis gadget Aug 16 09:08:38 meeting following error Aug 16 09:08:49 musb-hdrc: peripheral reset irq lost! Aug 16 09:08:49 data abort Aug 16 09:08:49 MAYBE you should read doc/README.arm-unaligned-accesses Aug 16 09:08:56 use mainline u-boot Aug 16 09:09:21 VoiceShen: are you using the latest 3.8 kernel? Aug 16 09:09:24 av500: at your desk? you should be outside in the park on nice day like this! Aug 16 09:09:30 U-Boot 2013.07-00197-g3208d07 Aug 16 09:09:34 * jackmitchell looks outside Aug 16 09:09:38 * jackmitchell raining Aug 16 09:09:43 * jackmitchell hates England Aug 16 09:09:43 jackmitchell, just test u-boot Aug 16 09:09:49 up early or awake late Aug 16 09:09:53 :) Aug 16 09:09:53 jackmitchell: move to .fr Aug 16 09:09:53 not kernel Aug 16 09:10:18 jackmitchell: better food, better weather, language that has less irregularities than rules Aug 16 09:10:30 also, women Aug 16 09:10:32 VoiceShen: ah, ok; I know nothing about u-boot and rndis adapters I'm afraid, has it ever worked? Aug 16 09:10:39 jackmitchell, move then! Aug 16 09:10:46 how about Senegal? Aug 16 09:10:48 I don't know Aug 16 09:10:51 das: i like the women form geneva/lausanne better :) Aug 16 09:10:52 thats warm an sunny.... Aug 16 09:11:20 KotH: ka6sox: I don't hate England, just rain; I would like to move though, but the better half is mid phd Aug 16 09:11:23 and you could be a rich, white asshole :) Aug 16 09:11:33 jackmitchell, bummers Aug 16 09:11:39 KotH: exact steps please Aug 16 09:11:42 so need to wait till that is over before decided where or what we're doing Aug 16 09:11:50 jackmitchell: let her do a sabbatical somewhere else :) Aug 16 09:11:53 I missed out on a Director of Engineering position because better half was mid-masters Aug 16 09:12:03 plus, I just accepted a new job offer Aug 16 09:12:05 * jackmitchell hooray! Aug 16 09:12:14 same field? Aug 16 09:12:15 das: buy ticket to senegal, board plane, fly over, leave plane, be an asshole Aug 16 09:12:29 jackmitchell: congrats Aug 16 09:12:35 jackmitchell, excellent Aug 16 09:12:44 kind of, Embedded Linux Engineer, but in the wireless networking domain Aug 16 09:13:01 okay left the field I'm in then. Aug 16 09:13:02 not at Cisco I hope ? Aug 16 09:13:16 das: haha, no way Aug 16 09:13:35 just down the road from where I already am, Cambridge Broadband Networks Aug 16 09:13:57 douchebag Cisco, gets record high profits, lays off 4000 Aug 16 09:14:38 why am I up...its 2am Aug 16 09:14:43 some comments say they are "processing" aquisitions Aug 16 09:14:58 buy company, integrate some people, fire the rest Aug 16 09:15:04 guys, i am having some issues with the TI cpsw: WARNING: at drivers/net/ethernet/ti/cpsw.c:446 __cpdma_chan_free+0xd0/0xd8() Aug 16 09:15:12 ka6sox: you're in Broadcast too? Aug 16 09:15:18 das: you shouldnt listen to the voices on redit Aug 16 09:15:31 and then the stack dump Aug 16 09:16:00 jackmitchell: he is the voice of America Aug 16 09:16:02 the_dude: are you running the latest 3.8 kernel? Aug 16 09:16:04 KotH: what ? I cannot survive on elitism in this channel only, I need reddit too for that ! Aug 16 09:16:10 also trying to set interrupt pacing fails with ethtool Aug 16 09:16:13 jackmitchell: yes Aug 16 09:16:24 3.8 bone 25 Aug 16 09:17:26 the_dude: I'm not sure then I'm afraid, what are you doing to aggravate the network driver Aug 16 09:17:34 das: what for? to feel better than others? there are plenty of oppurotunities here for that Aug 16 09:17:45 das: if you need more, go to #linux or so Aug 16 09:17:58 jackmitchell: just using transmission to download a torrent Aug 16 09:18:45 i've tested the system alot with stress, it is not dumpicg the stack Aug 16 09:19:05 the_dude: pastebin full trace/kernel log Aug 16 09:19:10 also dding /dev/zero to a nfs share is working Aug 16 09:19:18 KotH: just a moment Aug 16 09:19:19 the_dude: then sacrifice good swiss chocolate to the channel gods Aug 16 09:19:36 KotH: i prefer the belge one Aug 16 09:19:40 bh! Aug 16 09:19:46 lol Aug 16 09:20:10 pastebin Aug 16 09:22:53 http://pastebin.com/9vLm6BRT Aug 16 09:23:34 jackmitchell, yes Aug 16 09:24:22 easier in raw http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=9vLm6BRT Aug 16 09:25:29 the_dude: well, this looks to be the problem; BUG: scheduling while atomic Aug 16 09:25:57 the_dude: if you're handy in C, I would delve in and see if something is being scheduled somewhere, while in an atomic context Aug 16 09:26:51 cverster: follow the link above from johanhenselmans the service in question is "gdm" it stands for Gnome Display Manager I think. just killing X will dissapoint as gdm will keep restarting it Aug 16 09:26:54 the_dude: probably somewhere in cpdma_chan_free Aug 16 09:27:50 tolip: that's the job of gdm Aug 16 09:28:13 tolip: killing x is the same as logging out, and when you log out, you want to gdm take over and present you a login screen Aug 16 09:28:41 jackmitchell: thanks but I am just a user :/ Aug 16 09:29:11 the_dude: heh, you could try filing a bug; there is a bugtracker somewhere. Aug 16 09:29:18 * jackmitchell looks around for Panto ^^ Aug 16 09:29:54 agree, but above suggestions were given to kill X, that will dissapoint, X like a zombie will return. disable gdm and no more X on boot but can resurrect if needed Aug 16 09:30:02 http://technode.com/2013/08/15/microduino-shrinks-the-arduino-cheaper-same-power Aug 16 09:30:06 we need a microBBB Aug 16 09:30:10 a microbee Aug 16 09:30:32 microB Aug 16 09:30:34 uB Aug 16 09:30:37 . Aug 16 09:31:17 Beijing Maxpace, the supporting community behind Microduino, provides not only tools for hackers but a sense of community built on knowledge, innovation and common good. Aug 16 09:31:22 * jackmitchell pukes in the corner Aug 16 09:32:14 its because they dont have internet in china, they dont know about http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/kenburns/tinyduino-the-tiny-arduino-compatible-platform-w-s Aug 16 09:32:21 or the 15 other tiny arduinos Aug 16 09:36:17 hairball! Aug 16 09:37:55 we need a microBBB Aug 16 09:38:00 what we need is better driver support Aug 16 09:38:04 more than anything Aug 16 09:38:07 (imo) Aug 16 09:38:11 like what? Aug 16 09:38:33 like the eCAP modules or the PRU or any number of other features of the ARM processor that aren't quite easily accessible as is Aug 16 09:38:40 PRU is there Aug 16 09:38:42 people use it Aug 16 09:38:46 not very well it isn't Aug 16 09:39:25 patches welcome Aug 16 09:39:28 it's very hacky and unfriendly to use, the only driver support for it is support to load a firmware image to it Aug 16 09:39:55 i could say the same about your microbbb... schematics welcome :p Aug 16 09:40:48 PRU has other methods... Aug 16 09:40:53 <_av500_> well, I was not serious Aug 16 09:41:00 they are just more...Bleeding Edge... Aug 16 09:42:46 jackmitchell: should i post that as a bug on the kernel bug tracker ? Aug 16 09:43:08 the_dude: that might help, I'm a quick look for you now; see if anything stands out Aug 16 09:43:10 or with TI ? Aug 16 09:43:24 the_dude: not TI, 3.8 is CircuitCo supported Aug 16 09:44:49 the_dude: the mainline kernel bugtracker is not the right place either Aug 16 09:46:12 what does uname -a give you, are you sure you're on the latest, latest? Aug 16 09:46:53 it looks to me like someone has encountered this bug, and put some fixes in, but maybe it didn't quite fix it Aug 16 09:47:48 Linux arm 3.8.13-bone25 #1 SMP Tue Aug 6 22:11:31 UTC 2013 armv7l GNU/Linux Aug 16 09:48:01 it is the rcn kernel Aug 16 09:48:15 http://rcn-ee.net/deb/wheezy-armhf/v3.8.13-bone25/ Aug 16 09:48:44 _av500_: hey.. the tinyduino looks interesting Aug 16 09:50:28 the_dude: https://www.dropbox.com/s/b5doal98f358sxb/uImage Aug 16 09:50:58 try that kernel, if it still doesn't work then file a bug here: https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel/issues Aug 16 09:51:48 jackmitchell: i'll try it later, it is located at home, nott feeling like changing the kernel remotely :D Aug 16 09:51:51 jackmitchell: thanks Aug 16 09:52:31 KotH: did you find your word Aug 16 09:54:21 if I share a uImage from my dropbox, can you guys all install it and then report to me how long it took you to realize you're pwned Aug 16 09:54:41 lol Aug 16 09:55:08 mrpackethead: nope.. just used "plated hole" Aug 16 09:55:18 I forgot to mention my uImage kangs all your code btw, it will be in anonymous pastebin accounts for all to see Aug 16 09:55:49 i've seen rcn started to work on a 3.11 image, stil in RC state Aug 16 09:55:57 http://rcn-ee.net/deb/wheezy-armhf/v3.11.0-rc5-bone2/ Aug 16 09:56:37 3.11? Aug 16 09:56:45 that sounds very out of date Aug 16 09:57:02 but its not Aug 16 09:57:13 Linux for Workgroups Aug 16 09:58:11 I never understood the latest kernel mania.. Aug 16 09:58:32 i am happy with 3.2 on a bunch of production servers Aug 16 09:58:39 very rarely do you live on the bleeding edge so that you actually need the stuff from every new version :) Aug 16 09:58:50 the_dude: which tells us taht you are running debian Aug 16 09:58:51 ;) Aug 16 09:58:58 ok so I run Arch, I shouldn't bash kernel upgraders :) Aug 16 09:58:59 KotH: bingo Aug 16 09:59:07 the_dude: actually, debian/stale Aug 16 09:59:22 well it is production so yes Aug 16 09:59:28 3.10.6-2 running Aug 16 10:00:03 I should probably change to the lts kernel packages on arch x86.. . Aug 16 10:00:40 the_dude: so, you dont like risk? Aug 16 10:00:48 then again.. Linux firewall 2.4.17 #15 Wed Jul 24 13:56:31 EEST 2013 i686 unknown Aug 16 10:01:07 o_0 Aug 16 10:01:22 KotH: and since nobody managed to add bbone to narcissus i am using the debian image on my bbb too Aug 16 10:01:27 it runs stable, no need to upgrade! Aug 16 10:01:46 the_dude: run Arch, it has newer kernels on BBB ;) Aug 16 10:02:01 Vaizki: i remember upgrading to 2.4.17 because i needed sata... 4 or 5 years ago.. if not more Aug 16 10:02:23 most likely more Aug 16 10:02:26 more Aug 16 10:02:37 let's see.. Aug 16 10:03:11 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 773667 Jan 21 2002 vmlinuz-2.4.17-9 Aug 16 10:03:17 yeah baby! Aug 16 10:04:09 my BBBs run 3.8.13 it seems Aug 16 10:04:13 I run stock Arch on them Aug 16 10:05:23 * KotH feels old Aug 16 10:05:27 * KotH blames Vaizki Aug 16 10:06:37 yea.. me too.. 40 wednesday this week :O Aug 16 10:06:52 damn, you _are_ old Aug 16 10:07:04 I blame my parents Aug 16 10:07:15 I blame the liberals Aug 16 10:07:37 i have nothing older than 2.6 Aug 16 10:07:46 jackmitchell: I resemble that remark Aug 16 10:08:20 libe-dem are always to blame, not matter what, they deserve it ! Aug 16 10:08:35 the british lib-dems? Aug 16 10:08:44 I'll trade our social dems for your libdems Aug 16 10:08:51 all the eu lib-dems Aug 16 10:08:59 I'll even throw in the whole green party Aug 16 10:09:16 which are communists in hidden mode :D Aug 16 10:09:20 without the lib-dems we'd have labour in charge Aug 16 10:09:30 mru: true Aug 16 10:09:54 so we now have #politicalfriday ? Aug 16 10:10:17 tory+libdem is probably as good as it's likely to get with that lineup Aug 16 10:10:18 lol yes Aug 16 10:10:35 either one alone would be a disaster Aug 16 10:10:36 mru: i would prefer tories alone Aug 16 10:10:43 I say throw out all the bums... Aug 16 10:10:48 everyone of them Aug 16 10:10:49 nothing to hold them back Aug 16 10:10:55 the whole lot Aug 16 10:12:38 how about we stop using the euro ? that'd be nice for france/spain/italy Aug 16 10:12:54 germany might be a little pissed though Aug 16 10:12:56 now I heard cameron knows how to take stuff off the internet Aug 16 10:13:00 we don't like to have germans pissed Aug 16 10:13:02 maybe he can get rid of the spam problem Aug 16 10:13:33 * mru is happy to keep using sterling Aug 16 10:14:20 mru: well they fucked up with the premier league bs Aug 16 10:14:30 mru: for once the british were right Aug 16 10:14:44 the_dude: politicians fuck _everything_ up Aug 16 10:15:49 http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/146 Aug 16 10:24:32 <_av500_> the_dude: in germany, the greens are not the communists Aug 16 10:24:52 _av500_: but they are as stupid as the rest of the greens everywhere ;) Aug 16 10:24:56 <_av500_> no Aug 16 10:24:56 in sweden the greens are all things bizarre Aug 16 10:25:07 <_av500_> they are a party for rich people with a green touch Aug 16 10:25:24 _av500_: ah.. we have the "grn liberale" for those Aug 16 10:25:47 they are a party for rich people with SUVs and yachts to feel good about voting for the "right" thing Aug 16 10:25:49 _av500_: a lot more stupid program, less understanding, more hilarities Aug 16 10:26:08 <_av500_> mru: no, they dont have SUVs Aug 16 10:26:21 only party worse are the pirates Aug 16 10:26:28 which are a real joke in .ch Aug 16 10:26:49 sweden has largely the same lineup as germany, but all worse Aug 16 10:28:32 <_av500_> these days, do I need swap? Aug 16 10:28:44 <_av500_> 12GB machine Aug 16 10:29:03 at least a swapfile not a swap partition Aug 16 10:29:04 _av500_: I run all my machines without swap, I think if you want to sleep/hibernate you may need it Aug 16 10:29:09 <_av500_> no Aug 16 10:29:15 <_av500_> this machine newer sleeps Aug 16 10:29:28 <_av500_> ok, no swap Aug 16 10:29:33 swapfile only for emergencies Aug 16 10:29:45 personally, I wouldn't bother, but if you've got the space; then a few gigs to one side wouldn't hurt Aug 16 10:30:29 _av500_: isnt 12G a little bit less for todays firefox? Aug 16 10:31:01 <_av500_> yes Aug 16 10:31:03 <_av500_> but i use chrome Aug 16 10:31:40 24G no swap here Aug 16 10:31:41 ah.. ok Aug 16 10:32:02 cannot believe how cute is this new olinguito carnivore, my gf wants one already Aug 16 10:32:22 the what? Aug 16 10:32:39 they discovered a new mamal Aug 16 10:32:46 it's all the rage on the intarwebz now Aug 16 10:33:04 yeah, no kidding Aug 16 10:33:05 the_dude: girls always seem to until they realise that they actually do eat live animals, see cats for example ;-) Aug 16 10:33:20 cats eat live animals Aug 16 10:33:32 <_av500_> itsa mutant racoon Aug 16 10:33:34 http://asset2.cbsistatic.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim2/2013/08/15/Olinguito_610x438.jpg Aug 16 10:33:34 <_av500_> big deal Aug 16 10:33:35 girls eat mostly dead ones Aug 16 10:34:41 there is a reason cats are officially classed as vermin in the UK Aug 16 10:35:05 feral cats can be a problem Aug 16 10:35:08 XorA: i have a inhouse cat, he never goes outside Aug 16 10:35:14 this guy works in a weird place: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-23701151 Aug 16 10:35:16 poor thing Aug 16 10:35:17 see video Aug 16 10:35:36 he looks to have a lion in a drawer Aug 16 10:37:03 <_av500_> the lion is a dog Aug 16 10:37:07 XorA: and i live in london, which is only geographically in UK Aug 16 10:37:24 dog in a drawer still constitutes weird in my book Aug 16 10:37:36 Depends if it's dead or not. Aug 16 10:37:46 I mean - if it's a fridge drawer. Aug 16 10:38:21 stuffed, maybe? it didn't look that fridge-like Aug 16 10:38:58 how to fuck with burglars minds, only have stuffed dogs in your cupboards and drawers Aug 16 10:39:28 a live lion would be efficient too Aug 16 10:39:41 a hungry one especially Aug 16 10:41:05 EPICT EPP-100 is an Android PC with a pico projector Aug 16 10:44:14 <_av500_> android PC Aug 16 10:44:15 <_av500_> lol Aug 16 10:57:36 hm whats PC stand for Aug 16 10:57:53 Pile of Crap Aug 16 10:57:54 politically correct Aug 16 10:58:25 police constable Aug 16 11:11:16 ahh. the requirements! "needs capacitor with f_res > 450MHz"... yeah right, i'm going to buy a 10USD/pcs capacitor for a totally uncritical thing Aug 16 11:14:10 <_av500_> KotH: for your msp430? Aug 16 11:14:39 :D Aug 16 11:16:40 _av500_: almost. it's a sam3 this time :) Aug 16 11:24:55 KotH: http://www.slate.fr/story/76390/pakistan-serie-lutter-contre-islamistes Aug 16 11:30:19 mru: didnt you mention that a couple of weeks ago already? or was that someone else? Aug 16 11:30:27 I've never seen it before Aug 16 12:45:18 <_av500_> NIS+NFS working :) Aug 16 12:45:23 <_av500_> old school Aug 16 12:45:40 nis or nis+? Aug 16 12:45:55 nfs or +nfs? Aug 16 12:46:04 <_av500_> suse calls it nis and nfs Aug 16 12:46:09 <_av500_> you do the math Aug 16 12:46:44 *g* nis+ == sun Aug 16 12:47:18 nis += sun Aug 16 12:47:22 nissun Aug 16 12:47:24 nissan? Aug 16 12:47:32 you're running suse on your car? Aug 16 12:47:42 no in nis+ you can have more than 8 chars for the passwd Aug 16 12:48:50 http://img.thedailywtf.com/images/13/q3/e79/Pic-6.png Aug 16 12:50:30 last time i used nis it was like 2002 Aug 16 12:51:06 the_dude hm same here I think Aug 16 12:51:40 hm ah no wait I had to install the windows nis service for getting unix attributes Aug 16 12:51:43 for AD Aug 16 12:55:49 my fileserver at home is still doing nis Aug 16 12:55:51 for >10y Aug 16 12:55:59 * KotH feels old again Aug 16 12:56:03 * KotH blames _av500_ Aug 16 12:56:20 KotH: being old is a one-way thing Aug 16 12:56:36 koth you should have used kerberos Aug 16 12:56:42 it's not something you can try and go back if you don't like it Aug 16 12:56:59 <_av500_> mru: people look at you if you try Aug 16 12:57:13 which had give you access to some CERN homefileservers Aug 16 12:57:25 mru: oh, i did, i did. being old is not nice, so i went back to being childish again ;) Aug 16 12:57:40 <_av500_> woglinde: please, no CERN, they already gave us this web abomination Aug 16 12:57:44 woglinde: you mean AFS, which uses kerberos for auth Aug 16 12:57:55 afs is kinda neat Aug 16 12:58:00 it's a bitch to set up though Aug 16 12:58:00 woglinde: and i had to use afs at the uni Aug 16 12:58:07 koth hm Aug 16 12:58:10 woglinde: nice idea, doesn't work for always on stuff Aug 16 12:58:11 was it really afs Aug 16 12:58:17 it was Aug 16 12:58:17 * _av500_ uses ffs daily Aug 16 12:58:32 * mru used afs at uni too Aug 16 12:58:55 _av500_: running some old sco boxes, still? Aug 16 12:59:03 installed it at home as well so I could access my files easily Aug 16 13:01:14 <_av500_> fun thing, NIS automont only worked after 3 reboots, Linux is reaching windows feature parity :) Aug 16 13:02:17 nice try Aug 16 13:05:26 hm qemu 1.6 Aug 16 13:05:53 * mru shrugs Aug 16 13:06:10 it does have some patches of mine though Aug 16 13:06:26 hehe Aug 16 13:06:29 for arm? Aug 16 13:06:34 yes Aug 16 13:09:52 morning all Aug 16 13:10:57 hi billy Aug 16 13:12:55 hi :) Aug 16 13:59:56 ouh that's nice, a package which Makefiles include extensive use of sed Aug 16 14:00:02 gotta love them friday afternoons Aug 16 14:00:20 I'll take that over cmake any day Aug 16 14:00:41 there's some cmake too ofc Aug 16 14:01:24 went monday to ask why the project was using cmake, the answer: "dunno, some guy implemented that and left. we don't remember why" Aug 16 14:02:47 <_av500_> well, we left because of that Aug 16 14:03:13 doesn't build, what a surprise ! Aug 16 14:08:21 hi all, i was interested in picking up a beaglebone black, whats the status of the crypto device, is there kernel support for it? Aug 16 14:10:21 hi Aug 16 14:10:39 <_av500_> josh_: there are patches somewhere I think Aug 16 14:11:00 do you made microSD card transfer check on class 4, 6 and 10? Aug 16 14:11:39 of course on BeagleBone Black :D Aug 16 14:12:06 _av500_: not mainline support though? any idea where those patches would be, any idea if openSSL would benefit from the crypto support Aug 16 14:34:27 <_av500_> josh_: i'd have to google it :) Aug 16 14:34:51 http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/218 Aug 16 14:35:16 someone using the bbb tp backup disks? i just packaged rdiff-backup, but maybe there's something better? Aug 16 14:35:40 that doesn't sound like a sane use of it Aug 16 14:35:59 _av500_: i was just googling myself, looks like this exists drivers/crypto/omap-aes.c‎ is this what would be used on the BBB Aug 16 14:37:12 I wonder if bittorrent sync works well e.g. http://labs.bittorrent.com/experiments/sync.html?utm_source=bittorrent&utm_medium=web&utm_content=banner&utm_campaign=general Aug 16 14:37:23 that was for you freinhard Aug 16 14:40:34 keesj: bittorrent sync works well, but is very very much not suitable for backup Aug 16 14:41:11 sync != backup in the same way raid != backup Aug 16 14:41:19 cloud Aug 16 14:41:26 you need no backup Aug 16 14:41:35 cloud cloud cloud Aug 16 14:42:05 josh_ now do some tests if it is fast enough for ssh Aug 16 14:42:19 right Aug 16 14:44:28 well the backup works this way: Aug 16 14:44:44 first usb disk is always connected to the bbb and accessible over network Aug 16 14:44:57 once a week, connect a second drive and put the backup there Aug 16 14:45:06 + for rdiff-backup: versioning Aug 16 14:45:58 since i don't want to use more than two disks i can't just sync Aug 16 14:46:11 if i would do, the file i deleted accidently on one disk is lost on the second too Aug 16 14:46:12 o.O Aug 16 14:46:31 it runs standalone? Aug 16 14:46:40 mru, KotH I've seen that comic here...our neighbors are from Afganistan and have something that looks like that. Aug 16 14:46:41 no inet connection? Aug 16 14:46:58 the backup runs locally from USB to USB Aug 16 14:58:44 friday @#$@#$s! Aug 16 15:02:19 mranostay skol Aug 16 15:02:40 * mranostay dances in Aug 16 15:02:42 nobody actually likes skol Aug 16 15:02:48 even on Fridays Aug 16 15:06:18 Hagar the Horrible did Aug 16 15:12:29 XorA: I stand corrected, he certainly was a fan. Horrible by nature, horrible by taste in beer ;) Aug 16 15:43:33 Does anyone know the easiest way to read mem location 0x44E10600 on the BBB? Aug 16 15:43:48 kmem2? Aug 16 15:44:06 I tried it in C, but of course Linux doesn't allow it from within a process the memory isn't allocated to Aug 16 15:44:38 or is it called devmem Aug 16 15:44:46 devmem Aug 16 15:44:49 not heard of kmem2 Aug 16 15:44:57 ah, deevmen Aug 16 15:45:06 deadmen Aug 16 15:45:08 * XorA suffers from a lot of brainos Aug 16 15:45:39 root@beaglebone:~# devmem2 0x44E10600 Aug 16 15:45:40 /dev/mem opened. Aug 16 15:45:40 Memory mapped at address 0xb6fa1000. Aug 16 15:45:41 Read at address 0x44E10600 (0xb6fa1600): 0x1B94402E Aug 16 15:45:43 ta Aug 16 15:46:05 easy Aug 16 15:47:15 when you know how :) Aug 16 15:59:09 gm prpplague Aug 16 16:15:41 woglinde: greetings Aug 16 16:38:03 prpplague: hey bald dude Aug 16 16:48:07 is there something like /etc/network/if-up.d/ for connman? Aug 16 17:01:34 freinhard: systemctl restart connman.service? Aug 16 17:02:59 <_av500_> Aug 16 17:03:11 Aug 16 17:03:15 <_av500_> Aug 16 17:03:19 <_av500_> ok, hometime Aug 16 17:03:21 <_av500_> bbl Aug 16 17:11:19 wmat: /etc/network/if-up.d/ is for scripts that get executed when some interface gets up Aug 16 17:19:20 Anyone using 3g dongle on BB? Aug 16 17:19:39 ask a question Aug 16 17:20:06 lolsborn why not? Aug 16 17:20:09 Is there a good way to get it to work without using the shady Sakis script? Aug 16 17:21:06 I've used a 3G dongle using a lightly adapted version of the chat script I used for dialup Aug 16 17:22:05 If you don't like a script - understand what it does - and replicate it in a better way Aug 16 17:22:09 modem-manager for the win Aug 16 17:28:35 this is a dongle free channel pleae Aug 16 17:28:40 *please Aug 16 17:38:47 mranostay: no need to get all jealous Aug 16 17:56:20 emeb: ping Aug 16 17:56:33 bastard :) Aug 16 17:58:00 emeb: yo. so your FPGA cape uses GPMC? Aug 16 17:58:11 does that actually work? :) Aug 16 17:58:20 mranostay, dunno Aug 16 17:58:22 hell no Aug 16 17:58:26 haven't had time to play with it. Aug 16 17:58:46 but if it sells, who cares? Aug 16 17:59:19 yeah that is what i wanted to know before i assumed mine Aug 16 17:59:27 *assembled Aug 16 17:59:44 mrpackethead: how is yours working exactly? Aug 16 18:00:12 mranostay: GPMC is available. I haven't done anything with it yet. Aug 16 18:00:37 emeb: ah so no input from the FPGA is possible yet Aug 16 18:00:53 why you not hook that up to the PRU? Aug 16 18:00:56 mranostay: not at all - spi0 is available and works for send/receive. Aug 16 18:01:26 I've been using that so far - works great. Aug 16 18:02:44 emeb: the FGPA i/o is buffered? Aug 16 18:02:55 or limited to 3v3 level Aug 16 18:03:42 mranostay: 3.3V only Aug 16 18:04:33 emeb: but are FPGA input/ouputs generally buffered? Aug 16 18:04:41 * mranostay guesses not Aug 16 18:06:05 mranostay: FPGA I/O is pretty beefy and I don't have any extra buffering / protection on the BCC card. Direct connections. Aug 16 18:07:46 emeb: beefy? as in protection isn't really needed? Aug 16 18:08:29 as in the FPGA has reasonable ESD protection and fairly strong current drive capability. Aug 16 18:27:16 emeb: how much mA per I/O pin? Aug 16 18:37:03 hi all Aug 16 18:37:36 can you also flash an image on the beaglebone black via usb? Aug 16 18:37:50 so using a usb stick / pen drive Aug 16 19:01:40 nobody?:( Aug 16 19:02:07 it's software Aug 16 19:02:10 anything is possible Aug 16 19:02:34 don't think anyone's written that particular feature yet Aug 16 19:02:57 that wasn't the question, strictly speaking Aug 16 19:07:56 guess ill be buying a micro sd than Aug 16 19:26:11 emeb: so fpgas clocked at 400mhz how much would those run? Aug 16 19:29:59 flashing from USB would be a sinch but really depends on what you mean by USB Aug 16 19:30:16 host, yes, mini USB, not so easy Aug 16 19:31:05 and . . .i guess he left. Aug 16 19:32:46 don't they always Aug 16 19:33:34 seems like, my client dropped connection so i didnt even see most of the discussion Aug 16 19:34:03 but yeap Aug 16 19:35:17 new personal uptime record for my own bbb 10 days weee Aug 16 19:38:11 mru do you watch the beagleboard google groups ? if so notice that last post in the last couple of minutes ? lol Aug 16 19:38:13 mranostay: Xilinx Spartan 3A parts, such as used on the BCC are rated to drive up to +/-24ma depending on the I/O standard you specify in the design. Aug 16 19:38:59 mranostay: your question regarding FPGA clocked @ 400MHz - what are you interested in? Current draw? Cost? Aug 16 19:40:44 FPGA! Aug 16 19:42:16 emeb: cost Aug 16 19:43:09 mranostay: that speed would likely require a higher-end part, so you'd be looking at a fairly high cost (from a hobby standpoint) Aug 16 19:43:17 how high? Aug 16 19:43:29 * mranostay braces himself Aug 16 19:43:32 mranostay: over $100 just for the FPGA Aug 16 19:43:41 ah that isn't too bad Aug 16 19:43:51 not a hobby project per se Aug 16 19:44:06 of course there are other factors - how much logic you need. Aug 16 19:44:18 32 pins Aug 16 19:44:27 not I/O - how much internal logic Aug 16 19:44:32 ah Aug 16 19:44:42 enough to do RLE on 32 inputs Aug 16 19:44:58 doesn't sound like too much then Aug 16 19:45:23 you need 400MHz I/O clock rates? Aug 16 20:30:58 Hmmmm Aug 16 20:31:09 ds2: Hrrrrr Aug 16 22:59:35 b Aug 16 22:59:41 c Aug 16 23:08:50 d Aug 16 23:34:49 e Aug 16 23:43:14 f Aug 16 23:43:52 u Aug 16 23:43:57 c Aug 16 23:48:24 h Aug 17 00:01:03 s Aug 17 00:04:16 hi there, can anyone help me with pwm pins please ? Aug 17 00:05:52 certainly someone CAN help Aug 17 00:05:55 will they? Aug 17 00:07:21 hope so Aug 17 00:07:51 well, they can't take hope away Aug 17 00:10:12 do you know whats the max frequency for pwm ports? I need to get 8 kHz output Aug 17 00:10:34 sounds like something that should be in the manual Aug 17 00:10:42 either the trm or the datasheet Aug 17 00:12:14 I checked the reference manual, beagleboard website, google group ... there is no direct indication and I am not electronic guy so I couldn't check it in board parts... Aug 17 00:12:48 this would be in the am335x trm or datasheet Aug 17 00:13:08 but every time I try to go high with the frequency I get error for any value more than 2kHz Aug 17 00:14:17 checking thanks... Aug 17 00:33:17 LCD3 in da house - so cute! Aug 17 01:02:35 I'm getting "no route to host" when I try to ssh into beagleboneblack, newly installed Debian , using usb wifi module. Aug 17 01:03:49 the bbk has an inet address, the router sees it, but another host on the network apparently cannot Aug 17 01:06:11 I can ssh from the host if I ping the bbk first Aug 17 01:18:59 Hey Aug 17 01:45:40 I have BBB and am trying to install i2c by kelly korevec at github.com/kelly/node-12c. I set error with "npm install i2c". Error is "ImportError: No module named filecmp" Aug 17 01:50:28 so why automatically ask that question in here? ask the question in #node, or wtf eve their support irc channe; they have Aug 17 01:57:16 * mranostay blares techno into the room Aug 17 01:57:25 * mranostay installs the pain of ubuntu **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Aug 17 02:59:58 2013