**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Sep 13 02:59:58 2013 Sep 13 03:01:45 lol, wow. Sep 13 03:02:12 the *insane* slowness wasn't my imagination. Sep 13 03:02:29 actually, this shows how awesome device tree is :) Sep 13 03:02:39 you think ? Sep 13 03:06:24 * nomel changes it to 0x16 to 16x the speed! Sep 13 03:06:34 ;) Sep 13 03:07:03 might work if the hardware supported it ( which it does not ) Sep 13 03:07:17 sdcard == 4bit emmc == 8bit Sep 13 03:07:48 so I just realized after installing kernel devicetree, I never upgraded all my packages with opkg... fail. This might be the source of my original problem, lol. Sep 13 03:08:07 dont do upgrade Sep 13 03:08:18 opkg update only <----- Sep 13 03:08:32 erm... well. lets just say that it is currently upgrading now... Sep 13 03:08:38 hypothetically Sep 13 03:08:42 otherwise you'll be in for a world of "hurt" Sep 13 03:08:59 ruh roh Sep 13 03:09:13 if you did opkg upgrade . . . yeah ouch Sep 13 03:09:23 so... what happens to my bone? Sep 13 03:09:29 usually just doesn't work. Sep 13 03:09:35 wtf Sep 13 03:09:39 you may have to find the latest flasher image, and reflash the emmc Sep 13 03:09:50 opkg will probably run out of space because it's been broken forever (you need to specify a tmp directory) Sep 13 03:09:59 and angrstrom kinda sucks. Sep 13 03:10:16 in terms of packages and working. Sep 13 03:10:19 nothing wrong with angstrom, if thats what you like Sep 13 03:10:27 ok, best way to cancel upgrade in progress? Sep 13 03:10:31 hammer. Sep 13 03:10:37 jk :P Sep 13 03:10:50 the kernel-header package is broken again with angstrom..yay. Sep 13 03:10:52 ^c maybe but yeah idk may as well let it finish Sep 13 03:12:19 wow, this boots WAY faster now. Sep 13 03:12:52 ok, i'll let it go... can't believe I broke my bone already. such a fail. Sep 13 03:13:05 swilshy this is what i did -> http://forum.beaglefu.com/topic/30-beaglebone-black-networking-net-upgrade/?hl=%2Bopkg+%2Bupgrade Sep 13 03:13:11 lol, no way to break it unless you burn out the hardware. Sep 13 03:13:34 i did that the first week the bbb was released to the general public though and kernel version was 3.8.8 Sep 13 03:13:48 should add --opkg-cache to that for next time. Sep 13 03:14:02 so you don't have to redownload everything. Sep 13 03:14:17 i cache to a network share. Sep 13 03:14:38 cause i break mine all the time :( Sep 13 03:16:06 https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1271394_10202042351407324_1696950363_o.jpg Sep 13 03:16:09 one of my lambs. Sep 13 03:17:37 nomel i netboot, and use tar to make backups so even if i break something, reinstating is really simple Sep 13 03:18:23 i even sometimes reinstate on the fly, but usually the bbb will stop responding after a while ( kernel / rootfs confusion ) Sep 13 03:18:32 i know. you have the awesome going on. Sep 13 03:18:49 mrpackethead: you eat them? Sep 13 03:18:54 mrpackethead: isn't that kinda messed up? Sep 13 03:19:09 mrpackethead mind answering a network related question if you can ? Sep 13 03:19:27 mrpackethead: you have a big head. Sep 13 03:19:57 mrpackethead: but i still think you're pretty. Sep 13 03:20:11 mrpackethead, I am looking for a way to masq through my bbb, or any ole linux system for the purpose of rate limiting on a windows machine ? doable ? and if so is it worth the efort ? Sep 13 03:20:44 the only other options is using a widnows app that installs its own drivers and im not too keen on that idea Sep 13 03:22:56 *crickets* Sep 13 03:25:17 nomel: in deed we do eat them Sep 13 03:26:42 just realized id need a second eth device whcih my laptop does not have, maybe RNDIS . . .but hmmm Sep 13 03:37:50 eat more quiche Sep 13 03:52:20 baah my bbb is still upgrading itself Sep 13 03:52:31 the most dramatic death ever Sep 13 03:52:43 takes about an hour Sep 13 03:52:51 ( with good internet ) Sep 13 03:52:58 well semi good internet Sep 13 03:54:31 looks like downloads just stopped. its 'configuring' Sep 13 04:03:01 https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1268306_10151914864797268_987718024_o.jpg Sep 13 04:10:48 swishy how is it going now ? Sep 13 04:11:08 swilshy even Sep 13 04:11:22 configuring gnome-common-schemas Sep 13 04:11:40 maybe you'll get lucky Sep 13 04:11:45 I hope so Sep 13 04:11:57 at what point does it mess up? during reboot? Sep 13 04:12:23 ive never experienced it personally only have read by many people on the groups opkg upgrade is a no no Sep 13 04:13:17 this was supposed to have been fixed since 3.8.11 but meh idk Sep 13 04:13:24 been told otherwise Sep 13 04:14:08 well as long as I can recover, its ok. I don't imagine i'll be sticking with angstrom long. Sep 13 04:14:23 what is your prefered distro ? Sep 13 04:14:47 well I'm new to embedded systems but I love arch Sep 13 04:15:08 there are people in here running arch on it Sep 13 04:15:26 debian also works very well on it. Sep 13 04:15:37 silly distros... distros are for kids! Sep 13 04:15:58 angstrom does too, but for me personally its too diferent from what i am used to ( debian ) Sep 13 04:16:13 regular debian or ubuntu? Sep 13 04:17:18 william@arm:~/test$ sudo lsb_release -a | grep Description Sep 13 04:17:18 No LSB modules are available. Sep 13 04:17:18 Description: Debian GNU/Linux 7.1 (wheezy) Sep 13 04:17:50 ubuntu works on it too Sep 13 04:18:07 fedora gentoo slackware . . . what else am i missing ? Sep 13 04:18:47 oh right android. Sep 13 04:19:16 havnt ever played with android Sep 13 04:19:52 i havent much, not at all on ARM Sep 13 04:20:16 i looked into android dev a while back. got bored with googles developer antics Sep 13 04:21:11 haha, not easy to deal with huh? Sep 13 04:21:40 i dont think android store iOS store or MS's tablet store deserves 30% fee Sep 13 04:21:52 yeah that's crap Sep 13 04:22:03 then tell them to F-off Sep 13 04:22:06 if anyone *maybe* MS, but android is based off of open source Sep 13 04:22:08 and just publish your app online Sep 13 04:22:15 no i just wont work for them Sep 13 04:22:17 no reason to use the android crap store Sep 13 04:26:29 so, just curious, but what do you use your bone for m_billybob? Sep 13 04:26:53 swilshy mainly right now its a learnign tool but have a project in mind later down the road Sep 13 04:27:21 remote site management . . . turnign things on / monitoring stuff remotely. Sep 13 04:27:59 im still learning a lot abotu embedded linux Sep 13 04:28:05 cool. sounds like stuff I would be into too. Sep 13 04:28:13 luckily i have years of debian experience hence why i chose debian Sep 13 04:29:08 I have a little experience with debian. Its one of my favs too. Sep 13 04:29:46 the idea of rollign distro bothers me Sep 13 04:29:54 im not the type that likes upgrading all the time Sep 13 04:30:34 im still about 6-7 kernel "releases" behind the latest for the instructions I follow Sep 13 04:30:46 only time i upgrade is when somethign compellign comes along Sep 13 04:30:49 yeah I hear you. sounds like lazy devs Sep 13 04:31:19 no no, i have just picked up the habit of only upgrading when needed Sep 13 04:31:27 hence far less problems Sep 13 04:31:30 who needs testing when you can just release a new version in a month, hah Sep 13 04:32:01 starting to get errors in my upgrade... says device running out of space Sep 13 04:32:03 yeah that too. although ive run into issues with debian stable too. but last time was years back Sep 13 04:32:11 ruh ro Sep 13 04:32:35 yup, this cant be good lol Sep 13 04:32:40 swilshy: that's because you did'nt specify a temp directory Sep 13 04:33:05 yeah, that's a lesson learned... :-( Sep 13 04:33:19 i think you're boned at this point. Sep 13 04:33:23 boo I hate this distro anyway Sep 13 04:33:25 just rewrite the image. Sep 13 04:33:40 or another distro :P Sep 13 04:33:50 yeah, that's next step. I'll try and reboot just for kicks Sep 13 04:34:54 swilshy check the groups for arch / debian instructions. I only know of one person in here for sure who runs ARCH but should be able to find lots of info to build / and or instal debian Sep 13 04:35:27 also to get the bbb back up quick you can follow the instructions on circuitco for reflashing the latest angstrom release Sep 13 04:35:44 well, as much as I love arch, if debian is a smoother install I may just go with that. I'de favor the path most travelled while I'm learning. Sep 13 04:36:33 swilshy, well i follow building from source instructions but the same person ( Robert Nelson ) hasprebuilt images somewhere Sep 13 04:36:42 i just dont know exactly where Sep 13 04:36:58 its ok, I'll do a little googling, I found it once Sep 13 04:37:28 i would not use armhf's stuff as Robert Nelson instructions are known good, and he will answer any question you have on the groups or on his ewiki site Sep 13 04:44:07 ok. so if I have an armhf image, that's not the best route? Sep 13 04:44:19 swilshy circuitco's pages would be a good place to start Sep 13 04:44:32 look for robert nelsons stuff on circuitco Sep 13 04:44:40 ok, looking now Sep 13 04:45:08 i think the wiki has a link but havent looked lately Sep 13 04:45:41 swilshy for future referrence if you want to setup a cros compile system -> http://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black Sep 13 04:45:48 thats building from source though Sep 13 04:46:08 it'll take like half a day to build from source by those instructions Sep 13 04:46:51 upgrade is done, bone still lives... for now. Reboot? Sep 13 04:51:12 iffy Sep 13 04:51:28 wonder if you can check if it installed the new kernel Sep 13 04:51:44 if not then you may want to do the 4th step like i did Sep 13 04:51:51 let me see Sep 13 04:52:57 root@beaglebone:~# lsb_release -a Distributor ID: Angstrom Description: Angstrom GNU/Linux v2012.12 (Core edition) Release: v2012.12 Codename: Core edition Sep 13 04:53:29 seems like an old kernel Sep 13 04:53:41 hmm Sep 13 04:53:41 but thats whats its booted off of Sep 13 04:54:01 i dont know how to check what opkg has installed Sep 13 04:54:21 well I mean, maybe I could do the upgrade again the right way? assuming it has the free memory after this first one. Sep 13 04:54:41 maybe but it sucks not to hae atleast angstrom to toy with Sep 13 04:54:48 flashing the emmc takes abotu an hour Sep 13 04:55:20 or I could just try and boot the thing off a microsd image I downloaded Sep 13 04:55:34 I dont want angstrom anyways Sep 13 04:56:01 up to you Sep 13 04:56:15 it'll boot off my sd card after this corrupt upgrade, right? Sep 13 04:56:23 i keep angstrom on my emmc personally, just to have it there and i can boot from sdcard netboot or boot via USB Sep 13 04:56:38 do you have an image on it ? Sep 13 04:56:42 rootfs and all ? Sep 13 04:57:23 yeah, I do now, i'm using a precompiled one, so I assume it has everything Sep 13 04:58:10 from robert nelson ? Sep 13 04:58:50 still looking for his, that's why I havn't booted it yet, I wanted to get something from him like you said Sep 13 04:59:39 armhf's images should work but dont expect to get support on the groups if using their image Sep 13 04:59:57 theres a tut here by him about flashing to eemc, but I want sd card boot... hmm Sep 13 04:59:59 Robert updates his images monthly as well Sep 13 05:02:32 swilshy i also have a blog here -> http://www.embeddedhobbyist.com/ i have a small amount of "guides" for booting over a network, and from USB etc if you ever get the urge Sep 13 05:03:01 summertime is always busy so i probably wont update new guides until winter Sep 13 05:04:27 ok, I will definitely make use of that then. Sep 13 05:08:42 my goal is to get the "perfect" development setup going. netbooting helps tons here. can change evreythign every day if i wanted ( could ) and not worry about hosing flash media Sep 13 05:10:01 im pretty close on that, but could always stand to make improvements. now im working on understanding javascript / nodejs better in the context of making a linux appliance front end Sep 13 05:10:19 backend/front end Sep 13 05:11:59 a wonderfull good JIHAD! Sep 13 05:12:26 a wonderful choclate JIHAD to you too KotH Sep 13 05:24:02 card inserted, bob plugged in... cant ssh to box. any kind of diagnostic tips anyone? Sep 13 05:24:08 bbb* Sep 13 05:24:44 serial debug cable / module ? Sep 13 05:24:52 do youhave one ? Sep 13 05:25:17 if the bbb picking up an IP ? Sep 13 05:26:44 if == is Sep 13 05:27:29 lemme do a scan or something Sep 13 05:29:01 ok, so false alarm. network scan found the box, lol. we are good Sep 13 05:29:10 Sheesh Sep 13 05:29:19 my bad, sorry :-( Sep 13 05:29:33 but the good news is, its working Sep 13 05:29:38 :-) Sep 13 05:34:05 swilshy: now praise the great m_billybob and sacrifice some good swiss chocolate to him Sep 13 05:34:18 heh im good Sep 13 05:34:31 well, thank you m_billybob I really do appreciate your help Sep 13 05:34:33 meaning: tis ok Sep 13 05:34:38 no problem Sep 13 05:34:39 oh .. right.. you are one of those infidels who eat hearsays... Sep 13 05:34:50 no i eat icecream Sep 13 05:35:36 make chocolate syrup once in a while from real coco though ( for chocolate milk Sep 13 05:36:41 Well now that I have a small victory, I'm heading to bed. See you later. I'll work on the noobishness for next time. Sep 13 05:37:15 good luck :) Sep 13 05:37:31 thnx :) Sep 13 05:38:05 KotH, actually though i wouldnt mind a good swiss choclate once in a while Sep 13 05:40:49 m_billybob: meet me at $randomOSSeventinEurope and get some :) Sep 13 05:41:46 wouldnt mind that either, but couldnt afford it :/ Sep 13 05:43:04 havent been in eurpoe since the 80's Sep 13 05:43:20 err Europe Sep 13 05:50:58 KotH: morning Sep 13 06:52:59 salut mrpackethead Sep 13 06:53:12 m_billybob: same here problem here... i haven't been in japan since 2008 Sep 13 06:58:44 [kernel] koenkooi pushed 1 new commit to 3.12: http://git.io/NiJJow Sep 13 06:58:45 kernel/3.12 3c5e3b3 Koen Kooi: 3.12: update to latest mainline... Sep 13 06:59:09 I have never been to Japan which is a big blunder but.. maybe next spring Sep 13 07:00:48 go there. go there for at least a couple of weeks Sep 13 07:00:57 it's worth it :) Sep 13 07:01:24 yea.. I did that Tripadvisor travel map thingy on FB in the spring.. 53 countries I've visited yet I have a whole lot of "obvious" ones missing Sep 13 07:01:47 switzerland? ;) Sep 13 07:01:49 like Japan, Ireland and most of eastern europe Sep 13 07:02:23 umm not that obvious. my grandparents used to live in Montreux Sep 13 07:03:04 nope, that's not obvious Sep 13 07:03:22 but like Portugal.. ok so I've been to Madeira but not mainland Portugal Sep 13 07:04:04 Poland, Hungary, Turkey.. never been Sep 13 07:05:38 Canada! Sep 13 07:08:07 Haha.. this Tripadvisor map is telling me I have 32% of the world travelled Sep 13 07:08:33 I wonder what the average is .. Sep 13 07:10:47 1% Sep 13 07:11:01 Vaizki : do you have a link to that map thingy? Sep 13 07:11:10 https://apps.facebook.com/tripadvisor/ Sep 13 07:11:24 but yea it's FB-embedded crap Sep 13 07:12:44 KotH: sounds about right if you calculate purely on % of countries visited Sep 13 07:13:12 if you visit china/candada and USA you can up your stats Sep 13 07:13:16 by land area Sep 13 07:13:41 Vaizki: most people in the world are not able to leave their village Sep 13 07:13:51 Vaizki: and there are people like usians who refuse to do so Sep 13 07:14:01 yea but those people don't use tripadvisor :D Sep 13 07:14:31 mrpackethead: or denmark! **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Sep 13 07:16:32 2013 Sep 13 07:16:40 juup Sep 13 07:16:48 * KotH is weird, he knows that already Sep 13 07:17:13 naah not weird, I'd love to do that too Sep 13 07:22:55 Hello, Can you give me the link of WORKING Android image for my BeagleBone Black? Sep 13 07:23:36 The current image I get from TI does not load display my HDMI monitor and even on my Cape.. Sep 13 07:29:43 http://downloads.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beaglebone/ Sep 13 07:46:19 KotH: http://www.microsoft.com/demo/beaglbone Sep 13 07:47:04 mrpackethead: it would have been more convincing without the typo ;) Sep 13 07:47:09 dumb Sep 13 07:47:12 do do do Sep 13 07:47:15 I'm so tired Sep 13 07:47:19 i'll laugh at anything Sep 13 07:47:22 been a long week Sep 13 07:47:25 Board Meeting monday, Sep 13 07:47:29 customer meetings tuesday Sep 13 07:47:32 Trade show Wedenesday Sep 13 07:47:39 la la la. Sep 13 07:48:05 be glad you have no space project with unrealistic schedule and a supplier who doesnt want to work Sep 13 07:49:52 oh, i do't know Sep 13 07:49:55 i'll trade you for my client Sep 13 07:50:14 who 2 weeks before delviery Sep 13 07:50:20 says "this is'snt what i want" Sep 13 07:50:21 trade you all for a client that haven't paid for a few months Sep 13 07:50:23 but its in the spec Sep 13 07:50:31 what spec? Sep 13 07:50:36 the spec you agreed to Sep 13 07:50:40 i never agreed to a spec Sep 13 07:50:48 yes, you did, and mroe imporantedly so did your boss Sep 13 07:50:58 mrpackethead: signed paper? Sep 13 07:51:08 KotH: yeah, just one dumb individual in a big org Sep 13 07:51:13 problem is that we have to make it work Sep 13 07:51:17 we'll come out ok Sep 13 07:51:21 tell his boss Sep 13 07:51:22 just a coupel of extra days work Sep 13 07:51:33 the client pays well Sep 13 07:51:34 document such stuff Sep 13 07:51:38 and generally is not a problem Sep 13 07:51:40 charge them extra for bs Sep 13 07:51:50 it was a *warning* shot Sep 13 07:51:54 in the scope of it Sep 13 07:51:59 i was able to send a junior engineer out Sep 13 07:52:01 for 2 days Sep 13 07:52:03 and sort it out Sep 13 07:52:29 panto: you can keep yoru client Sep 13 07:52:34 i'm not so keen on those kinds Sep 13 07:52:42 mrpackethead, I haven't Sep 13 07:53:28 i shoud'nt pretend to be a programmer Sep 13 07:53:31 gah. Sep 13 07:53:43 i'm causing myself greif. Sep 13 07:54:10 at least i'm learning something Sep 13 07:55:01 is this allowable? if ( *something.PoolBytePtr++ > 127) Sep 13 07:56:22 yes Sep 13 07:56:40 it will make anyone new to c tripp, but taht's ok Sep 13 07:56:53 I thought it was ok Sep 13 07:57:26 i'm newish to C Sep 13 07:57:30 :-) Sep 13 07:57:38 * m_billybob has only been to canada and germany other than his native country Sep 13 07:57:59 * mrpackethead has not been to candada, but have been to germany Sep 13 07:58:51 * KotH has not been to canada either, but have been to germany too many times Sep 13 07:59:16 ive been all over germany Sep 13 07:59:27 in 3 years, you'd hope so Sep 13 07:59:48 * KotH knows people who do phds in other countries, but dont leave their flats Sep 13 08:00:20 heh Sep 13 08:01:27 so wassabi ? Sep 13 08:01:37 anything awesome happening lately ? Sep 13 08:02:06 other than that jens person on the groups finding the 1bit sdcard access oversight ? Sep 13 08:02:36 going to canada at the end of November Sep 13 08:02:37 for a holiday Sep 13 08:02:48 where abouts ? Sep 13 08:05:50 Vancover to Calgary Sep 13 08:05:57 bit of a trip Sep 13 08:06:14 sadly, i've been silly and tacked on a weeks work after it Sep 13 08:09:18 KotH: that code just doe'snt seem to do what i thought it would Sep 13 08:10:39 mrpackethead: 09:56 < KotH> it will make anyone new to c tripp, but taht's ok Sep 13 08:11:38 thats going to increment the value and not the pointer is'nt it? Sep 13 08:14:23 uhmm... i dont know from the top of my head whether * or ++ has the higher precendence Sep 13 08:14:26 check c99 Sep 13 08:14:55 yeah. Sep 13 08:15:02 the pointer is not incrementing Sep 13 08:19:23 google operator precedence ;) Sep 13 08:19:41 pretty sure * has precedence but also not possitive Sep 13 08:22:15 hi! after a bitbake virtual/kernel i hoped to find the /firmware directory in ...../setup-scripts/build/tmp-angstrom_v2012_12-eglibc/work/beaglebone-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/linux-mainline-3.8.13-r23a Sep 13 08:22:39 but it is missing, any idea why? Sep 13 08:23:01 ++ should have precedence, but what you get depends on which side it's onI would add parens, even if not necessary to make reading easier in the future Sep 13 08:24:12 * m_billybob is currently reading getting started with the beaglebone Sep 13 08:27:06 hey@ Sep 13 08:27:11 it works! Sep 13 08:28:10 mrpackethead what are you doing ? Sep 13 08:28:19 learning C Sep 13 08:29:36 ++/-- has some gotchas that often get new learners Sep 13 08:30:00 yeah. Sep 13 08:30:13 I'll ask my programmers Sep 13 08:30:15 to explain Sep 13 08:30:16 :-) Sep 13 08:30:20 heh Sep 13 08:30:33 ++n != n++ ;) Sep 13 08:30:38 for instance x = 11; x++ == 12; is not true but after the fact x does in fact = 12 Sep 13 08:30:44 pre and post increment Sep 13 08:31:22 m_billybob: aware of pre/post Sep 13 08:31:35 i was incrementing post Sep 13 08:31:36 mrpackethead there are several good and even some free C books out there Sep 13 08:31:38 and it did'nt work Sep 13 08:31:44 Yeah, and i have a shelf full Sep 13 08:31:45 :-) Sep 13 08:31:49 ha ha Sep 13 08:31:55 heh Sep 13 08:31:59 usually the way it works Sep 13 08:32:02 in most cases programmers mean the ++x variant Sep 13 08:32:07 im partial to bruce eckles Sep 13 08:32:08 I've come a long away. Sep 13 08:32:27 could'nt program a bean of C 12 months ago Sep 13 08:32:36 if i spent more time at it, im sure i'd learn more. Sep 13 08:32:44 congratulations then :) Sep 13 08:33:01 pointers are a nightmare for most folks! Sep 13 08:33:13 depends Sep 13 08:33:28 pointers are easy just that some usage can be very complex Sep 13 08:33:47 pointers are not so bad if you know an assembly type language Sep 13 08:33:47 conceptually they are not simple Sep 13 08:33:57 eh ? Sep 13 08:34:06 as humans Sep 13 08:34:09 pointer == reference to a location in memory Sep 13 08:34:14 yes. Sep 13 08:34:19 but thats not a normal thing Sep 13 08:34:25 we normally refer to somethign directly Sep 13 08:34:38 We dont' normally say Sep 13 08:34:39 dereferencing ;) Sep 13 08:34:57 I read the book in the libary that is stored on shelf 3 " Sep 13 08:35:34 we would say " i read Beaglebone for Windows " Sep 13 08:35:59 what did you think of this book mrpackethead anyhow ? Sep 13 08:36:05 whch book Sep 13 08:36:14 m_billybob: *book ? Sep 13 08:36:15 gettign started with beaglebone Sep 13 08:36:19 Its got better Sep 13 08:36:26 shelf 4 isle 15 ;) Sep 13 08:36:51 oh this is sad! Sep 13 08:37:26 its rather simplistic. but would probably be very good for a person new to linux, and embedded systems i suppose Sep 13 08:38:25 I've just sent an email to my staff Sep 13 08:38:37 starts " i made an hoenst effort " Sep 13 08:38:44 i've looked up a bunch of differnet texts Sep 13 08:38:47 i've googled it Sep 13 08:38:50 and i stilld ont' get it Sep 13 08:39:02 would someone be kind enough to help me understnad this? Sep 13 08:39:02 and like for me i know nothing about crontab, never took the time to learn so that could help me out. and some of the GPIO is handy to have around Sep 13 08:39:15 ps: i hired you becuase you are all smarter than me. Sep 13 08:39:27 the last line always gets a resposne. Sep 13 08:39:29 err some of the GPIO stuff in the book Sep 13 08:39:36 heh Sep 13 08:40:08 sounds liek yo uneed a mentor Sep 13 08:40:52 which is somethign i could probably use myself Sep 13 08:41:06 lol. Sep 13 08:41:13 I am the mentor Sep 13 08:41:17 but whats great about my team Sep 13 08:41:23 is that we all look after each other Sep 13 08:41:36 Without any exception Sep 13 08:41:43 everyones working to make themselves redundant Sep 13 08:41:53 That is the sure fire way to keep yourself in a job Sep 13 08:42:11 what i mean is you need to find a C guru, and learn from him having you do stuffs for him / her Sep 13 08:43:36 me . . . i need one for project hm . . . dunno what id call it. project concept perhaps ? Sep 13 08:43:54 * m_billybob needs a white board badly Sep 13 08:44:19 not big on diagramsor UML Sep 13 08:44:30 diagrams or UML Sep 13 08:46:21 Hello Sep 13 08:46:36 Can someone give me answer about Java on the BeagleBone Black? Sep 13 08:46:37 pending question ?> Sep 13 08:46:41 ah see . . . Sep 13 08:46:46 im telepathic Sep 13 08:46:56 I want to install a Java program, who need Osgi Sep 13 08:47:07 sorry, wrong order of my post :-) Sep 13 08:47:16 the application is "openHab" Sep 13 08:47:35 and I´m not sure which Image I should use Sep 13 08:48:05 no idea, java is one of those languages you couldnt pay me to learn. Sep 13 08:48:24 @java Sep 13 08:48:30 opps Sep 13 08:48:34 *java Sep 13 08:49:07 well, im ahppy Sep 13 08:49:12 i have it working! Sep 13 08:49:19 what is working ? Sep 13 08:49:41 blinky blinky ? Sep 13 08:52:43 * m_billybob is considering getting some hopefully decent RGB LEDs and having fun with PWM Sep 13 08:53:01 dont thin kws28xx's would cut it Sep 13 08:53:31 never had them before but i think they're SPI ? or hmm maybe just GPIO i dont know Sep 13 08:55:19 So does someone know which Image is maybe optimized for Java Osgi? Sep 13 08:56:52 libequinox-osgi-java - Equinox OSGi framework Sep 13 08:56:56 ^^ ? Sep 13 08:57:04 it seems to be there in debian Sep 13 08:57:26 I heard java was crap and python was the future. Sep 13 08:58:07 but I think he was kidding, or stupid. Sep 13 08:58:36 did someone use "java" and "optimized" in the same sentence? Sep 13 08:58:44 * koen checks Sep 13 08:58:49 yes, indeed, it is FRIDAY! Sep 13 08:59:08 \o/ Sep 13 09:00:24 dancingmonkey except that java is tons faster in *some* benchmarks - still i do not like java at all. javascript on the other hand i can live with ;) Sep 13 09:00:35 the government LOVES it's java. It's the bees knees! I know one of those java enterprise certified thing guys and he says they pay him money to make everything java'd. Sep 13 09:00:37 err compared to many oher languages Sep 13 09:01:15 and I mean THE government *looks around* Sep 13 09:01:57 I dont allow JVM's on any of my own personal systems. Sep 13 09:02:31 so outside of angstrom, say debian, is there a way to silence the LEDs, is there a /dev package or something? Sep 13 09:02:46 yeah Sep 13 09:03:00 sweet. Sep 13 09:03:06 echo none >trigger Sep 13 09:03:28 dancingmonkey: for future reference: both debian and angström are linux distributions. both behave the same under the hood. what one can do, can the other do as well Sep 13 09:04:06 sudo ls /sys/class/leds/beaglebone\:green\:usr0 Sep 13 09:04:06 brightness device max_brightness power subsystem trigger uevent Sep 13 09:04:15 ^^ Sep 13 09:04:39 KotH: I know, but one has been customized a little and has the /dev tree that includes those lights that I am so passionate about. Sep 13 09:04:45 mhmmm... chocolate! Sep 13 09:04:46 cat trigger to see your options Sep 13 09:04:48 m_billybob: you get that brightens field to work with pwm driven leds? Sep 13 09:04:58 Ok, then I will try Debian ... may I can get a good link for installing for a newbie? Sep 13 09:05:19 dancingmonkey: i made something to make led stuff easy: https://github.com/nomel/beaglebone/tree/master/led-header Sep 13 09:05:30 Fohnbit you could also check your own bbb on angstrom Sep 13 09:05:38 dancingmonkey: it's still not a different system Sep 13 09:05:43 opkg search i think it is ? Sep 13 09:05:59 dancingmonkey: and the "dev tree" you are talking about is just what the kernel reports to udev Sep 13 09:06:14 dancingmonkey: ie, use the same kernel with the same dtb and you will get teh same dev tree Sep 13 09:06:25 jdk6 and jdk7 both seem to be availible on debian, i dont know about angstrom. Sep 13 09:06:28 Fohnbit: Google debian-7.1-console-armhf-2013-08-26.tar.xz Sep 13 09:06:52 dancingmonkey i dont use armhf's debian Sep 13 09:06:58 * KotH should write a book that contains a description of how a linux system works under the hood Sep 13 09:07:05 you should Sep 13 09:07:13 ive thought about ti some too myself Sep 13 09:07:20 m_billybob: i am currently thinking about writing a book on quartz oscillators Sep 13 09:07:23 granted i probably dont know enough Sep 13 09:07:30 KotH: I think a squirl or wombat on the cover will sell more copies. Sep 13 09:07:34 m_billybob: a field that has been lacking a good book for almost 30 years Sep 13 09:07:45 dancingmonkey: good idea Sep 13 09:07:54 dancingmonkey: i'll keep that in mind :) Sep 13 09:08:12 what ? no cute cuddly koala bear ? Sep 13 09:08:26 OK, thanks for your help! I found a link with descriptio for updating Sep 13 09:09:16 KotH seriously *someone* needs to write a good kernel dev book that is modern, but meh i digress. Sep 13 09:09:34 i only say that because *now* i am interrested lol Sep 13 09:09:36 KotH: Sorry, it's a horse, a horse for linux... (hopefully you are getting the O'reilly reference...) Sep 13 09:09:52 what ? ldd ? Sep 13 09:09:57 * m_billybob has third edition Sep 13 09:10:02 dancingmonkey: sure i get that :) Sep 13 09:10:11 dancingmonkey: i've read a couple dozen of those books :) Sep 13 09:10:50 m_billybob: colbert said a two years ago, that he'll do a respin of ldd, but i havent heard anything about that ever since Sep 13 09:10:51 I work around people who can't read, so I wonder if my O'reillyisms get through Sep 13 09:11:00 m_billybob: i plan to ask him at ELCE Sep 13 09:11:06 horse eh ? so i guess a pengiun means nada Sep 13 09:11:15 KotH ah cool do tell if you find somethign out Sep 13 09:11:20 dancingmonkey: you are in a channel where we make fun of illiterate people Sep 13 09:11:58 KotH: and litterate Sep 13 09:12:14 in fact, of everybody. Sep 13 09:12:32 make fun of all things Sep 13 09:12:48 including greek kernel devs ? Sep 13 09:12:49 mrpackethead: thanks Sep 13 09:12:52 * m_billybob ducks Sep 13 09:12:54 So a few moments ago I heard "I don't use armhf's debian", did I go down some odd path to installing debian? Sep 13 09:13:08 hi panto didnt see ya there ;) Sep 13 09:13:16 dancingmonkey: dont' use angsdumb linux Sep 13 09:13:28 especially them Sep 13 09:13:28 m_billybob: especially greek kernel devs Sep 13 09:13:33 a sorry lot the bunch of them Sep 13 09:13:44 * m_billybob really doesnt know Sep 13 09:13:53 * KotH knows "things" Sep 13 09:14:01 * panto knows potato Sep 13 09:14:42 mrpackethead: I knew that, I immediately installed debian, but via debian-7.1-console-armhf-2013-08-26.tar.xz which seems to be a packaging of debian 7.1 that is friendly with bbb. Sep 13 09:15:47 whats the latest kernel used on armhf's image ? Sep 13 09:15:56 images Sep 13 09:16:42 oh hmm wow they've updated since last i looked Sep 13 09:17:26 Linux azul 3.8.13-bone26 #1 SMP Fri Aug 16 20:56:24 UTC 2013 armv7l GNU/Linux Sep 13 09:18:21 william@arm:~/test$ uname -r Sep 13 09:18:21 3.8.13-bone21 Sep 13 09:18:38 looks like they're using RCNs kernel Sep 13 09:19:06 or someones kernel honestly dont know who is belongs to Sep 13 09:19:10 it* Sep 13 09:27:51 dancingmonkey, anyhow custom kernel and debootstrapped rootfs, and yeah i like it too. Sep 13 09:30:19 I'm moving off my raspi onto the bbb and noticing the increase in CPU, wowsers. Sep 13 09:30:51 really that much of a difference ? Sep 13 09:31:05 isnt rpi like 720Mhz ? Sep 13 09:31:34 ah and yeah possibly better instruction set i guess too Sep 13 09:31:50 rpi=arm1 Sep 13 09:31:51 *arm11 Sep 13 09:31:59 bone=cortex-a8+neon Sep 13 09:33:03 rpi += gpu Sep 13 09:33:14 >:-( Sep 13 09:33:14 much better gpu Sep 13 09:33:34 is the bb gpu used for acceleration? Sep 13 09:33:42 or is that all nda'd away? Sep 13 09:33:45 i read some on the processor a long time ago but i honestly dont know much in the way of other differences Sep 13 09:34:25 nomel bb perhaps, bbb no drivers yet except maybe for android Sep 13 09:34:38 is there a difference? Sep 13 09:34:53 different kernel versions Sep 13 09:34:55 ahh Sep 13 09:34:59 different gpu's too i think Sep 13 09:35:05 oh Sep 13 09:35:21 so android is where to go for visual stuff. interesting. Sep 13 09:35:30 not sure abotu the differnt gpu thing. Sep 13 09:35:35 not necessarily Sep 13 09:37:40 just supporting something as simple as a transformation matrix and a little bit of SIMD will get you a long way. Sep 13 09:38:55 i want to say the BBW has mali 400 but i could be thinking of somethign else Sep 13 09:39:16 panto: hey! you could make a potato salad! Sep 13 09:40:32 Well, the RPi, doing a MD5 over CIFS would use 100% of the RPi CPU. The BBB is doing the same process but still has 21-23% CPU idle. The CPU is no longer the bottle neck. Sep 13 09:40:37 nomel well according to what ive jus tread they use the same GPU Sep 13 09:40:53 i was probably thinking of the original beagleboard Sep 13 09:42:49 I just cleared my chat log instead of copying it... Sep 13 09:42:59 It feels like I just got here. Sep 13 09:43:06 heh Sep 13 09:43:13 dancingmonkey: does that surprise you? Sep 13 09:43:38 No, I am an idiot. Sep 13 09:43:58 you proved that by comming here ;) Sep 13 09:44:06 could have sworn one of the beagle products used mali 400 graphics. this site im reading doesnt seem right in saying the original beagleboard uses PowerVR GPU Sep 13 09:44:23 PowerVR! WOO! Sep 13 09:44:29 m_billybob: panda, maybe? Sep 13 09:44:33 my friend had a power vr in his computer back in the 90's. Sep 13 09:44:35 might be Sep 13 09:44:46 that thing screamed. Sep 13 09:44:47 not really. Sep 13 09:45:02 m_billybob: TI is a powervr shop Sep 13 09:45:14 so who did mali 400 then ? Sep 13 09:45:19 m_billybob: the allwinner stuff has mali400 Sep 13 09:45:28 all the "your company name here" SoCs have it Sep 13 09:45:39 ARM ltd did a big tour in china for that Sep 13 09:46:16 Is the eMMC any better to run the OS from, I am using SD now... There's some mad scripts, I got mad scripts yo, to copy from SD to eMMC. Sep 13 09:47:04 eMMC is much faster, especially considering SD is 1 bit data but out of the box (for reals?) Sep 13 09:47:06 But nothing about the LEDs Sep 13 09:47:20 you check out my led files? Sep 13 09:47:50 I cleared the buffer thanks to your help and my idiocy. Sep 13 09:48:17 https://github.com/nomel/beaglebone/tree/master/led-header Sep 13 09:48:19 koen i feel pretty silly now been under the impression that mali 400 was TI .. . when all i had to do was google to find out :/ Sep 13 09:48:27 I did install locate, and did so for beagle and only found scripts, mad scripts. Sep 13 09:48:47 m_billybob: we please to make you feel stupid Sep 13 09:48:53 er.. Sep 13 09:48:58 lol Sep 13 09:48:58 disregard my english Sep 13 09:49:09 we're pleased* Sep 13 09:49:14 gotcha Sep 13 09:49:32 my english today is worse than usually :-( Sep 13 09:49:46 thing is KotH *you* cant make me fel stupid. only i can do that ;) Sep 13 09:50:03 but thanks for the assist ! Sep 13 09:50:19 m_billybob: i can not make you feel stupid, but i can make you inclined to feel stupid ;) Sep 13 09:50:52 m_billybob: mali was done by crazy Finns and bought by ARM ltd Sep 13 09:51:02 yeah i just read that Sep 13 09:51:09 ARM norway i think i jus tread Sep 13 09:51:16 m_billybob: I wish TI used mali since libv is making a lot of progress with the open source driver Sep 13 09:52:05 mali 400 seemed to be a good GPU for a while according to what i had read in the past. Sep 13 09:53:05 I would like to see powervr do good now of course. Sep 13 09:53:24 * m_billybob holds his breathe Sep 13 09:53:36 * KotH doesnt hold his breath Sep 13 09:53:41 * KotH eats chocolate instead Sep 13 09:54:16 im all choclated out for the night Sep 13 09:54:33 toasted almond and chocolate icecream Sep 13 09:54:57 * KotH eagerly awaits his friday pizza Sep 13 09:55:00 nomel is helpful, now I just need python. Sep 13 09:55:10 m_billybob: the mali was designed for openGL-ES, the powervr kinda evolved Sep 13 09:55:40 internal register status correspond correctly to openGL constants Sep 13 09:57:40 mmm pizza Sep 13 09:58:27 i think it'll be an interrestign time when the SGX / DRM drivers come into "play" Sep 13 09:58:44 could suddenly have a bunch of inexpensive desktops floating around ;) Sep 13 09:58:56 * KotH doubts that Sep 13 09:59:07 512MB ram is kind of a killer Sep 13 09:59:10 thin clients have died a horrible death several times in the last 15 years Sep 13 10:00:07 people just do not want them Sep 13 10:00:22 KotH well as a for instance. my latop here is only 1.4Ghz, but it is a quad, and with 8 GB ram Sep 13 10:00:38 laptop* Sep 13 10:00:40 m_billybob: it'd still be opengl-es Sep 13 10:00:58 and sgx/drm was already working on omap3 and omap4 Sep 13 10:00:59 my 2y old laptop is a 3GHz quad core i7 with 8GB ram... so? Sep 13 10:01:09 drm says nothing about having a sane layer above Sep 13 10:01:23 koen, you would know better than I Sep 13 10:01:24 it just moves a lot of access control into the kernel Sep 13 10:01:53 koen, i would not expect a huge performance boost, but it has to improve somewhat doesnt it ? Sep 13 10:02:13 it makes it easier to have >1 app using the gpu Sep 13 10:02:33 and do proper framesync Sep 13 10:02:41 KotH, point being. my 1.4Ghz laptop is by no means a screamer, but it works nicely. so 1Ghz isnt too far off of that Sep 13 10:03:31 m_billybob: not if you run gnome Sep 13 10:03:39 m_billybob: not if you want to run any office package Sep 13 10:03:45 m_billybob: not if you want to play HD video Sep 13 10:03:46 KotH why on earth would i want to d othat ? Sep 13 10:03:55 run gnome i mean Sep 13 10:03:58 you might not, but people do want to do that Sep 13 10:04:12 they dont want their computer to look like a computer Sep 13 10:04:19 LXDE . . . Sep 13 10:04:20 it should look like a tv, at most like a tablet Sep 13 10:04:29 lxde isnt exactly fast either Sep 13 10:04:39 but i dotn ru nX on any of my linux systems Sep 13 10:04:51 * KotH notes, m_billybob is strange Sep 13 10:05:05 if i want a desktop i use windows :P Sep 13 10:06:41 * KotH notes, m_billybob is strange and masochistic Sep 13 10:07:06 all my linux systems serve a purpose, all relating to server like duties, i would not want to ruin that by runnign x on them. granted I do have one latop that dual boots windows 7 / debian 7 ( wheezy ) have been considering puttign LXDE on that Sep 13 10:07:35 I tend to use only the fbcon on my work laptop Sep 13 10:07:53 I only need X for things like meld or browsers Sep 13 10:08:18 friend of mine used to do that few years back - if you mean frame buffer console Sep 13 10:08:31 yes Sep 13 10:08:40 with a "retina" screen fbcon is awesome Sep 13 10:08:57 when I get some time I'll try to ditch fbcon and switch to kmscon Sep 13 10:09:16 * koen does some more drive-by bug reporting Sep 13 10:10:38 i looked into setting that up 4 or so years ago my eyes glazed over when reading how much work was involved ( most of it seemed over my head ) Sep 13 10:11:19 my friend of that time though had a realy nice lookign setup on his system Sep 13 10:12:09 dahm 3am already Sep 13 10:12:17 bed time for me you all take it easy. Sep 13 10:23:34 arf Sep 13 10:41:46 av500: you should have been here Sep 13 10:41:53 av500: we just had pizza :) Sep 13 10:43:57 Why is everyone going to bed? It's almost noon! Sep 13 10:44:03 dunno Sep 13 10:44:07 i just had lunch Sep 13 10:44:19 and our french probably just had some snails Sep 13 10:48:48 KotH: had frogs today, snails everyday will mess up your stomach Sep 13 10:49:21 fair enough Sep 13 10:49:44 KotH probably had cheese for lunch Sep 13 10:49:53 suihkulokki: try again Sep 13 10:50:34 hm. seems like angstrom does not honour /etc/rc.local Sep 13 10:51:47 rc.local? Sep 13 10:51:52 that thing of ye olde times? Sep 13 10:52:20 sometimes its useful :) Sep 13 10:52:21 that thing of ye BSD times Sep 13 10:53:02 LetoThe2nd: just write a süstömd ünit Sep 13 10:53:08 hell yeah. Sep 13 10:54:13 * KotH doesnt even know whether his debian honors rc.local Sep 13 10:54:24 i guess it does, but it's been ages since i last saw a rc.local Sep 13 10:55:20 KotH: you know, debian honours everything that is olde! Sep 13 10:55:36 LetoThe2nd: it's a sanctuary of unixy things ;) Sep 13 10:56:07 hrhr Sep 13 11:02:16 KotH: I can confirm it does, my crazy routing script is in there Sep 13 11:04:22 XorA: which one of the 3 init systems are you using? sysv init? Sep 13 11:05:10 KotH: debians makefile priority based one, whatever that actually is Sep 13 11:05:27 ok Sep 13 11:05:28 thanks Sep 13 11:05:35 probably driven by sysvinit Sep 13 11:05:53 sysvinit is just a tiny part of a full init system Sep 13 11:06:24 lennart and his ilk use some rather flawed logic for replacing it Sep 13 11:06:57 1. the rh-stile rc.2/S10foo scripts suck Sep 13 11:07:04 *style Sep 13 11:07:10 2. these are driven by sysvinit Sep 13 11:07:18 3. therefore sysvinit sucks Sep 13 11:07:32 what about that sucks? Sep 13 11:07:51 the Sxx/Kxx scripts do suck Sep 13 11:07:56 it might not be the most optimal solution, but considering that it has served most people well over the last 15y or so... Sep 13 11:08:07 thats why you have rc.local Sep 13 11:08:08 yeah.. start/stop handling is weird Sep 13 11:08:31 but then it is easy to understand and troubleshoot Sep 13 11:08:32 and dependency handling is mostly wishful thinking Sep 13 11:08:43 they are also highly redundant Sep 13 11:08:51 original rh doesnt do any dependency handling Sep 13 11:09:07 most of the scripts repeat 95% of the text Sep 13 11:09:14 KotH: exactly Sep 13 11:09:23 it was grafted on later using some obscure comment syntax Sep 13 11:09:32 and if you mess it up, nothing notices Sep 13 11:10:40 yeah Sep 13 11:10:56 but does systemd solve these issues? Sep 13 11:11:01 no idea Sep 13 11:11:09 openrc does Sep 13 11:11:17 again this openrc thing Sep 13 11:11:23 i really have to have a look at it Sep 13 11:14:35 there is also init-ng Sep 13 11:14:43 ma NAS uses that Sep 13 11:14:45 my Sep 13 11:14:48 but then, its french Sep 13 11:16:51 Hi, My question about beaglebone black defining USB port. How can I list USB ports like "/dev/ttyUSB0" Sep 13 11:18:29 cagdaseckin: list? Sep 13 11:18:52 cagdaseckin: like `ls /dev/ttyUSB*` ? Sep 13 11:20:04 ls: cannot access /dev/ttyUSB*: No such file or directory Sep 13 11:20:42 pc gives result but beaglebone didnt Sep 13 11:21:14 is it about distribution? Sep 13 11:22:06 ? Sep 13 11:22:11 why should the beaglebon show that? Sep 13 11:22:41 on the bone its another tty Sep 13 11:22:45 for usb gadget Sep 13 11:22:58 I wrote a program for linux pc using bluetooh dongle which is connected to usb port Sep 13 11:23:48 ah Sep 13 11:23:49 I m tring to adapt it beaglebone Sep 13 11:23:54 ah Sep 13 11:24:37 so you plugged the dongle into the BBB? Sep 13 11:24:46 pastebin the output of dmesg Sep 13 11:26:02 Im new so can you tell it step by step Sep 13 11:26:11 type dmesg Sep 13 11:26:15 ok Sep 13 11:26:16 open a web browser Sep 13 11:26:19 pastebin.com Sep 13 11:26:26 and copy the output of pastebin there Sep 13 11:27:27 pasetebin.com didnt open Sep 13 11:27:30 So... I am trying to compile nomel's bits and pieces and I'm getting an error saying dtc not found, I was sure apt-get install dtc might fix this, but no. Sep 13 11:27:48 cagdaseckin: type pastebin into google Sep 13 11:28:23 pastebin.ca can Sep 13 11:29:57 dancingmonkey: device-tree-compiler Sep 13 11:30:48 dancingmonkey: also, if you do apt-cache search you'll get more info Sep 13 11:31:24 das: Yeah, I'm seeing dtc.sh in tools, but not the dtc I need, or maybe this will install dtc? Sep 13 11:32:00 just look inside the script Sep 13 11:32:12 It's definitely installing gcc and friends. Sep 13 11:35:13 dancingmonkey: I don't know what the script does but if it misses a package then install it Sep 13 11:35:19 in this case it's dtc Sep 13 11:35:30 so to know what to install do apt-cache search dtc Sep 13 11:35:49 then install the device-tree-compiler because that's what you're missing Sep 13 11:36:42 das I thought dtc is the device-tree-compiler Sep 13 11:37:17 woglinde: what ? yes ofc Sep 13 11:38:10 hey woglinde! Sep 13 11:38:31 /boot/uboot/tools/pkgs/dtc.sh installs dtc in this version of debian. Sep 13 11:38:45 hi koth Sep 13 11:40:25 What do the kids use for IRC these days? Sep 13 11:40:51 if it installs dtc how come it says dtc not found ? Sep 13 11:40:54 whats app Sep 13 11:40:56 av500: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6101258/ Sep 13 11:41:24 dancingmonkey because its sheaper than sms Sep 13 11:41:25 pastebin banned in my region Sep 13 11:41:39 cagdaseckin: Where are you? Sep 13 11:41:46 Turkey :D Sep 13 11:42:04 hm haha usb rndis Sep 13 11:42:22 Oh yeah I remember Turkey... Weren't you protes... Oh look Syria is doing something. Sep 13 11:42:42 cagdaseckin: sorry, I see nothing related to your pluging the BT dongle Sep 13 11:43:31 http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/03/16/0136208/turkey-bans-pastebin-and-tinyurl Sep 13 11:44:13 av500 i will re load Sep 13 11:44:40 av500: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6101273/ Sep 13 11:44:52 cagdaseckin: I was going to say http://tny.cz/ Sep 13 11:45:08 but aren't we the little hacker. Sep 13 11:45:41 hm hci timeouts Sep 13 11:45:45 maybee broken hw Sep 13 11:46:58 dancingmonkey: we are around the corner in the cliff. Syrians believes sth but we are in big trouble Sep 13 11:47:55 Turkey wanted to be EU, they are almost ready, they've started blocking sites like the UK. Sep 13 11:48:24 Or is Turkey EU and another one wanted in... So confusing. Sep 13 11:48:48 Hi all, I'm a complete Newb with the BeagleBone Black and I think I've been sent a secondhand and defective board. Could anyone confirm my board is broken? Sep 13 11:49:25 I've plugged it into three computers and not one has recognised it as a mass USB storage Sep 13 11:49:29 NewbX: I'd install something on a SD card, boot from it. If that happens, you win. Sep 13 11:49:40 I think here is not a place to talk about Turkey Sep 13 11:49:54 Power is going through and after some blinking I've getting a solid light on the User2 Sep 13 11:50:11 No, it isn't. There are too many people watching. I've read the news. Sep 13 11:50:35 NewbX: Getting the 'heart beat' blink? Sep 13 11:50:40 Nope Sep 13 11:51:21 The anti-static sticker was already open when I opened the box... Sep 13 11:51:35 I'm hours new myself, but I'd install a OS onto a SD and try booting, the eMMC might have been hosed by a bad user. Sep 13 11:52:01 NewbX connect a serial console Sep 13 11:52:06 and watch the output Sep 13 11:52:25 Thinking it could be bricked. I've got a micro HDMI cable arriving tomorrow so I can see the output, Sep 13 11:52:36 Just going to try a serial console now. Sep 13 11:52:37 nope Sep 13 11:52:42 serial Sep 13 11:52:53 cagdaseckin: wtf? Sep 13 11:52:57 cagdaseckin: why is pastebin banned? Sep 13 11:53:11 cagdaseckin: to many kemalist quotes distributed or what? Sep 13 11:53:27 You know the anonymous uses it. Sep 13 11:53:41 afaik anonymous is not active in .tr Sep 13 11:53:43 quick, ban google Sep 13 11:55:26 No kemalist in the government/ Islamic goverment did this Sep 13 11:55:45 cagdaseckin: that's why i ask whether there were too many kemalist mesages on pastebin Sep 13 11:55:58 cagdaseckin: or did they fear someone would spread the truth of ergenekon? Sep 13 11:56:17 koth beagle-turkey please Sep 13 11:56:26 sorry.. Sep 13 11:56:34 i just get pissed quickly at those *beeep* Sep 13 11:57:44 lol this not a place to talk about Turkey. I think you are a Turk and you know all about the truth Sep 13 11:58:00 cagdaseckin koth is one Sep 13 11:59:06 cagdaseckin: unfortunately, the truth is hard to come by if you are not living in .tr Sep 13 11:59:33 :D UÅŸak Sep 13 12:02:53 cagdaseckin: Zürih Sep 13 12:05:36 hi,all,after I run lsmod,I did not see the helper module is in the list,but I can read analog value from AIN* Sep 13 12:05:55 is this right? Sep 13 12:06:30 lispghost build in? Sep 13 12:18:30 No more blinking, blinding LEDs... Sep 13 12:18:40 except pwr... I want pwr off too. Sep 13 12:21:42 woglinde, I use 3.8 kernel Sep 13 12:22:11 woglinde, debian,I did not compile myself Sep 13 13:02:15 Hello, I am trying to figure out how to get my USB stripper to work with the BeagleBone. Is there a driver that I need to install? Thank you for your patience, I am extremely new at this! Sep 13 13:02:55 http://geekologie.com/2007/08/usb-stripper.php Sep 13 13:03:01 \o/ FRIDAY! Sep 13 13:15:42 LetoThe2nd: does it strip? Sep 13 13:18:26 we would we need a stripper for usb wires? Sep 13 13:21:34 USB Hub Sep 13 13:21:36 sorry, Sep 13 13:23:40 av500: how should i know? Sep 13 13:24:34 Student1: for an usb *HUB* - just plug it in. Sep 13 13:25:04 It doesn't work though, I've tried two different ones. Do I need to install some sort of a driver? Sep 13 13:25:23 should not. Sep 13 13:25:28 When I plug my BeagleBone Black into my computer via the microUSB that came with it, the onboard LED lights remain lit (suggesting charge) but don't blink. Are there any tricks to this? Sep 13 13:25:32 "doesn't work" is not a valid error message, though. Sep 13 13:26:29 Ok...then the USBs that I have plugged into the hub do not communciate with my BeagleBone, but when I plug them directly into the the BB they communicate just fine. Sep 13 13:27:17 * LetoThe2nd has no idea what you are talking about. Sep 13 13:27:33 Student: What is it you are plugging into the hub? Sep 13 13:27:50 A mouse, a Keyboard, and a Webcam Sep 13 13:27:56 Maybe it needs more power than the bone can supply through the hub--try powering the hub externally? Sep 13 13:28:00 Student1: is it a powered hub? Sep 13 13:28:16 Yes, the hub itself plugs into an outlet. Sep 13 13:28:16 Does this hub work on other machines with the same load? Sep 13 13:28:29 Yes Sep 13 13:28:50 Student1: does the beagle list the correct USB devices when you lsmod? Sep 13 13:29:07 Student1: sorry, lsusb _not_ lsmod Sep 13 13:29:19 what does that mean? Sorry! Sep 13 13:29:44 Student1: run lsusb in a terminal on your beagle, check if your devices are listed Sep 13 13:31:07 No, they aren't listed. Sep 13 13:31:15 Isn't that weird> Sep 13 13:31:53 How about when you plug them in directly? Sep 13 13:33:44 Student: it seems as though the usb hub isn't enumerating properly, it should work out of the box, is it a cheap usb hub? it's possible it is slightly out of the USB spec and the beagle can't pick it up Sep 13 13:39:38 Hello People Sep 13 13:40:00 When I plug them in directly, all three work. Sep 13 13:40:33 And the hub works with my computer...it was just a basic 7port 3.0 USB hub Sep 13 14:48:55 Hello! Sep 13 14:51:38 Im interested in buying beaglebone black for commercial use with products of my company (http://www.itr.org.pl/en/welcome/). Iv read here: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/beagleboard/yeX5GkEbqZc it is possible to order those boards without BeagleBone logo to get commercial license. Im looking forward to discuss this topic. My e-mail: maciej.andrzejewski@itr.org.pl Sep 13 14:55:08 itr: your probably best contacting circuitco direct than relying on IRC Sep 13 14:55:51 ok thanks for help! Sep 13 14:56:50 Actualy cant find any contact or email :) Sep 13 14:57:26 obsolete Sep 13 14:57:58 itr: go to http://circuitco.com/ and scroll down Sep 13 14:58:12 I know, thinking outside the box by visiting the website Sep 13 14:59:23 koen: websites, so old school! Sep 13 15:03:33 jackmitch|home: less is more when writing recipes :) Sep 13 15:03:56 I like less more than more Sep 13 15:04:16 woglinde: I need to scream at you a bit Sep 13 15:04:24 or anyone that touched meta-java Sep 13 15:04:39 koen hm I do net get paid for it Sep 13 15:04:51 and have serval stuff to do Sep 13 15:05:04 woglinde: it looks like jamvm and jikes don't like recent 64bit distros Sep 13 15:05:13 woglinde: I have some fixes I'll send after I get back Sep 13 15:05:18 and yes I should have made branches to match oe-core releases Sep 13 15:05:25 koen: I'll bear that in mind in future :) Sep 13 15:05:38 or yocto even Sep 13 15:06:06 koen hm really? my build machine is 64 bit ubuntu 12.10 Sep 13 15:06:21 jackmitch|home: all the people that said "I like setting variables explicitly to their default values, that way I know it will keep working" have gone screaming mad lately with updates to bitbake.conf Sep 13 15:06:42 woglinde: I said recent, so e.g. 13.06 would make life more difficult Sep 13 15:06:58 hm okay newer gcc than Sep 13 15:07:05 yeah Sep 13 15:07:21 but 13.04 is not LTS Sep 13 15:07:22 * woglinde runs Sep 13 15:07:38 and it's still ubuntu, so it sucks regardless of 3 extra letters Sep 13 15:08:00 s is for suffering? Sep 13 15:08:09 woglinde: I'll setup a 32 bit vm and retest and send patches to update e.g. jamvm-initial Sep 13 15:10:52 mru or sucking Sep 13 15:11:03 forgot a comma Sep 13 15:26:43 How do I enable the internal pullup/pulldown resistors on my BBB? Sep 13 15:32:19 bakers, the short answer is Device Tree, the long answer is you need to find or create a Device Tree overlay that sets the pin the way you want. Sep 13 15:35:17 ka6sox: So it's not as simple as tweaking something in /sys/input/gpio ? Sep 13 15:35:52 not that I am aware of...at least I've not been sucessful doing that. Sep 13 15:41:26 Hi. I just bought a BeagleBone and am frustrated cause I can't get neither screen nor ssh to work... It doesn't put ttyUSB1 to work, only ttyUSB0 is available. I updated the SDCard with the image: "Angstrom-Cloud9-IDE-GNOME-eglibc-ipk-v2012.12-beaglebone-2013.06.20.img" with dd utility. It booted up and USR leds are blinking. Yesterday I was able to connect once through ethernet cable, but now I can't get connect neither from ethernet nor USB. Any clues? Sep 13 15:42:03 yes use serial console Sep 13 15:49:03 Tryied screen in /dev/ttyUSB0... Didn't work. Sep 13 15:50:58 you need a ftdi or similar connector Sep 13 15:53:24 koen: the plot thickens, it seems as though I hit a bug in the OE eglibc recipe and that is what caused issues with the libgcc library, I've submitted a v4 with an RDEPENDS on libgcc to fix it in the meantime. Sep 13 15:54:18 woglinde: Really? I thought it was supposed to work with the USB cable... Sniff Sep 13 15:54:34 http://circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=BeagleBone_Black_Serial Sep 13 15:55:34 woglinde: Is this applicable to original beaglebone too? Sep 13 15:58:43 HFSDev oh my fault Sep 13 15:58:53 BeagleBone has build in Sep 13 16:09:03 woglinde, np, I'll try installing ubuntu on it and see if it changes anything. Thx. Sep 13 16:20:17 I need somebody to answer me a question Sep 13 16:49:38 jackmitch|home: I can show you a ton of commits in 2005 and 2006 adding RDEPENDS for libgcc Sep 13 17:03:21 Hey all, quick question. I just got my Beaglebone black in, and I was wondering if it was safe to power it off of a 5V 1A USB wall wart? (Like the charger for an android phone). I don't have a power supply with a barrel jack on hand and I wanted to run it with a USB keyboard and monitor, and I saw on the quick start card that it said to use at least a 1A power supply for that. Sep 13 17:03:38 yes Sep 13 17:04:13 thanks! Sep 13 17:04:15 if the power supply is not "good" enough, you will experience random crashes, but you should not fry your bbb Sep 13 17:06:05 I just wasn't sure if the USB power connections were set up to handle the higher current draw or if you needed to use a barrel jack power supply for that Sep 13 17:37:21 Is original BeagleBone supposed to create a net connection over any of its serial ports upon connecting via USB cable? Sep 13 17:37:34 not over serial Sep 13 17:37:43 but usbnet or rndis Sep 13 17:44:00 Hummm. I can't get it working for usb... Think I figured out why there's no ttyUSB1 on my env. For some reason my kernel is skipping the jtag serial port... so FTDI is being attached to ttyUSB0 Sep 13 17:45:12 I haven't got the time anymore now, but since I got a terminal (yey) I can configure ethernet with static ip and connect through ssh without problems. Thanks for the help... Will check later why network is not working on usb Sep 13 17:45:56 HFSDev: what jtag tool do you use ? I am just curious as I was trying to get BDI3000 working with BBB Sep 13 17:48:34 mnt_real: Not using jtag so far... just got my board and trying to have a stable environment. Sep 13 17:49:42 HFSDev: OK, when you said "my kernel is skipping the jtag serial port" I thought you were already directing your serial to your jtag, thx Sep 13 19:00:49 <_vicash_> Hello. I built u-boot.img in debug mode with the DEBUG option turned on using -DDEBUG. I then copied this to the eMMC card and tried to boot the BBB accordingly. I wanted to see how the system works and what it prints in DEBUG mode before I made my custom changes to it. However it fails to boot. http://pastebin.com/8kxTPEJN Sep 13 19:01:39 <_vicash_> The above pastebin has the screen output and it is stuck or the software hangs.. Not sure what happens that makes it hang. Please advise so that I can unbrick my BBB. Unfortunately I cannot boot and there is no prompt yet Sep 13 19:03:55 <_vicash_> I am using the standard Angstrom build method using the v2013.04 tag along with the required patches. Sep 13 19:13:28 [kernel] eepp opened pull request #58: Add "deassert-hard-reset" patchset (3.12...3.12) http://git.io/Ndz4GA Sep 13 19:20:20 [kernel] koenkooi pushed 2 new commits to 3.12: http://git.io/mkDdjg Sep 13 19:20:20 kernel/3.12 87a8326 Philippe Proulx: Add "deassert-hard-reset" patchset Sep 13 19:20:20 kernel/3.12 f2f5c5b Koen Kooi: Merge pull request #58 from eepp/3.12... Sep 13 20:09:20 <_vicash_> Hello. I built u-boot.img in debug mode with the DEBUG option turned on using -DDEBUG. I then copied this to the eMMC card and tried to boot the BBB accordingly. I wanted to see how the system works and what it prints in DEBUG mode before I made my custom changes to it. However it fails to boot. http://pastebin.com/8kxTPEJN Sep 13 20:24:39 Hello, my English is not the best. I search a package flash-player for Angstrom ? Sep 13 20:27:19 piet maybe try searching like -> opkg search gnash Sep 13 20:27:38 ok ... thanks Sep 13 20:28:04 if that does not work try -> opkg search flash or -> opkg search flash | grep player Sep 13 20:34:10 no result "search gnash, flash, player" ?? Sep 13 20:35:01 I do not know what to say, other than perhaps if you have to have flash player maybe install another distro. I know debian has gnash - because i just loked Sep 13 20:35:01 I would compile lightspark Sep 13 20:35:22 or that ^^ Sep 13 20:39:20 Hi I'm trying to find virtual serial port which is attached to USB port in. ls /dev/ttyUSB* gives ls: cannot access /dev/ttyUSB*: No such file or directory Sep 13 20:39:44 Guest99746 dmesg tells you all Sep 13 20:41:28 it gives http://paste.ubuntu.com/6103264/ Sep 13 20:42:14 Guest99746 looks like missing driver Sep 13 20:45:33 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsBluetoothUsbAdapters Sep 13 20:45:49 hi, u have a question, i configure the pins in P87 as input but some of them are always in 0 Sep 13 20:45:58 is there any auto driver checker/ loader or sth like that Sep 13 20:46:05 how can i fix it? Sep 13 20:52:29 i do not find any auto checker running Sep 13 21:23:28 Hi Sep 13 21:24:38 hello is this the right place to ask my doubts regarding BBB Sep 13 21:40:21 t Sep 13 21:40:28 hey anyone here? Sep 13 21:45:32 ttttttt Sep 13 21:52:17 vvvvvv Sep 13 21:52:45 never ask to ask, just ask to ask Sep 13 21:54:36 can someone tell me why pin my bbb P8_44 is always high? Sep 13 21:56:11 It's the same problem with P8_42 Sep 13 22:09:09 i dunno Sep 13 22:09:11 soz Sep 13 22:30:52 It appears that pins P8_41 to 44 are always high when set as input. Why is that? anyone? Sep 13 22:31:14 check the pull-ups Sep 13 22:31:19 later... Sep 13 22:33:08 I set pins with: GPIO.setup("P8_44", GPIO.IN, GPIO.PUD_UP) Sep 13 22:33:16 ops Sep 13 22:37:06 did you try connecting the pin to ground? Sep 13 22:37:21 because if you enable a pullup and dont connect anything obviously it will always be high Sep 13 22:37:34 hmm if I use this http://192.168.1.25/Support/BoneScript/pinMode/ Sep 13 22:37:54 on my pins 40-44 .. it disconnects beaglebone board Sep 13 22:38:15 something strange is going on here... Sep 13 22:38:59 I should note that I disabled lcd cape Sep 13 23:12:47 it appears that sysboot[4..0] are 11100 by default. I guess that is interfering. Is it possible to disable those boot pins and use them as normal pins after the boot was done? Sep 13 23:39:52 you can use those, but whatever you have connected has to be high impedance before you boot. Sep 13 23:41:01 but yeah, it's safe ofter boot. Sep 13 23:46:51 Hello all, I am trying to get started using the BeagleBone Black PRU. I'm trying to follow the example here: http://blog.boxysean.com/2012/08/12/first-steps-with-the-beaglebone-pru/ but it runs into problems: http://pastiebin.com/5233a2fe59986 Any help is greatly appreciated Sep 13 23:55:30 rocky|beagle: gimme a bit, i know pru pretty well. Sep 14 00:01:08 I've had my dinner, and am thinking more clearly. In ../util, there were multiple pasm for different platforms. I had to just modify the Makefile in example_apps to point to pasm_2.arm and give it +x Sep 14 00:26:44 rocky|beagle: check the pru/debug directory in that link. the step, reg, and mem scripts are pretty useful when things go wrong Sep 14 00:27:23 How many Alzheimers patients does it take to screw in a light bulb? Sep 14 00:27:41 To get to the other side! Sep 14 00:27:47 lolol Sep 14 00:29:29 Sorry to interupt... anyone here who knows where to get some code to read out a ds1307 0x68 RTC with JavaScript ? Sep 14 00:33:16 nomel: in what link now? Sep 14 02:08:39 hi Sep 14 02:09:28 I just got a serial cable from adafruit.. on some page I found it says to plug in pin1 - gnd, pin4 - rx, pin5 - tx Sep 14 02:09:36 does that sound about right.. and is that on p8 or p9 ? Sep 14 02:11:55 hi, I have a question concerning leds control on the beaglebone black Sep 14 02:12:11 authchir: YOU CAN. Sep 14 02:12:36 Do one of you know if ther is a way to control the power led? Sep 14 02:13:05 I've found plenty of tutorial for the four usr leds, but no one seems to give attention to the power led... Sep 14 02:13:06 Damn it... I don't know that one, just the others... Sep 14 02:13:17 justinm001: J1 Sep 14 02:13:20 justinm001: http://circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=BeagleBone_Black_Serial Sep 14 02:13:23 I want the power light off. Sep 14 02:13:51 justinm001: http://circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=File:CONN_REVA5A.jpg Sep 14 02:13:59 really ? goood luck dancingmonkey Sep 14 02:14:11 solution: unsolder it Sep 14 02:14:19 dancingmonkey: only way to turn the power led off is to desolder it Sep 14 02:14:22 Black nail polish. Sep 14 02:14:25 afaik led is tied directly into p[ower Sep 14 02:14:44 or one could just unplug it Sep 14 02:14:52 the heart beat was the annoying one. Sep 14 02:15:01 mmm, pretty anoying Sep 14 02:15:04 achoe none > trigger Sep 14 02:15:04 so there are two solutions Sep 14 02:15:11 echo none > trigger * Sep 14 02:15:33 prp: ah thanks mate ! Sep 14 02:15:41 didnt even see that little connector Sep 14 02:15:58 ls -al /sys/class/led -> self explanitory Sep 14 02:16:06 well, the bbb > raspi and that is good. Sep 14 02:16:18 depends Sep 14 02:16:32 graphics -- rpi bbb === everything else Sep 14 02:16:53 rpi has what ? 16 GPIO ? Sep 14 02:16:58 *yawn* Sep 14 02:17:46 GPIO can go run a robot for all I care. I just need a super low end server. Sep 14 02:17:51 xbmc ok rpi everything else bbb . . . Sep 14 02:18:27 z80 can do some sorts of low end "server" Sep 14 02:18:54 dancingmonkey: bbb probably isn't the best of choice for that if that is all you need Sep 14 02:19:02 dancingmonkey: there are plenty of other solutions Sep 14 02:19:09 dancingmonkey: but bbb will do the job Sep 14 02:19:37 Cheaper? small? supported? Sep 14 02:19:38 cubieboard 2 comes to mind too but there is also a quad 2GB i,MX6 board that is pretty awesome too Sep 14 02:19:52 $999 though Sep 14 02:19:57 HA! Sep 14 02:20:08 err $99 but also has 480Mbit GbE Sep 14 02:20:18 and sata Sep 14 02:21:06 bbb will do the job just fine for many things Sep 14 02:21:13 at half the cost Sep 14 02:21:45 prpplague, how goes it ? Sep 14 02:22:10 must be ok tis fridtag ;) Sep 14 02:22:26 err fritag* Sep 14 02:23:52 howdy I just bought a BBB today Sep 14 02:24:16 Yep, https://store.iotllc.com/product.php?productid=17&cat=0&featured=Y stupid eeeee, eee,eeeepc things. That is an even better solution. Next time... Next time... Sep 14 02:24:41 N2TOH: Welcome to not sleeping. Sep 14 02:24:58 thank you Sep 14 02:25:20 Welp, it's 0325... bed time. Sep 14 02:25:33 and a minute late. Sep 14 02:25:44 take care then Sep 14 02:26:03 I was going to ask about boot loaders for the new black board Sep 14 02:26:42 ask then Sep 14 02:26:58 chances are fairly good i know the answer, but i dont know all Sep 14 02:27:06 how to I boot off of the SD card or a USB drive? Sep 14 02:27:31 http://www.embeddedhobbyist.com/debian-tips/beaglebone-black/beaglebone-black-usb-boot/ Sep 14 02:27:39 USB ^^ Sep 14 02:27:45 and you're welcome Sep 14 02:27:46 ;) Sep 14 02:28:00 thank you Sep 14 02:28:13 * N2TOH raises glass Sep 14 02:28:16 my blog btw if you hacvewuestions . . . Sep 14 02:28:25 if you have questions* Sep 14 02:28:31 * m_billybob has tied a few on already Sep 14 02:28:42 hehe Sep 14 02:29:00 * N2TOH should start brewing again Sep 14 02:29:32 N2TOH im a bit proud of that post it should give you a good decent understanding of how uboot and the various boot files work Sep 14 02:29:51 I am reading it now Sep 14 02:30:05 also have netbootinstructions there too but i cover building debian from source only Sep 14 02:30:47 a side project is porting AT&T UNIX to the ATMEL AVR mega series Sep 14 02:30:51 netboot instructions will not work for angstrom fedora, or ubuntu as is Sep 14 02:31:09 uh yeah good luck with that ;) Sep 14 02:31:36 * m_billybob is not a huge atmel fan Sep 14 02:31:43 so far the test compiles or ramdom C code have not barfed Sep 14 02:32:20 for me it was more about "oh look the old kernel was only 53KB" Sep 14 02:32:32 im oreof a tan of msp430's but meh no linux there ;) Sep 14 02:32:46 16k / 512b Sep 14 02:32:58 well msp430g2553 Sep 14 02:33:45 here, http://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl Sep 14 02:33:54 how much memory do the atmel MCU you're workign with have ? Sep 14 02:34:14 64k flash ? Sep 14 02:34:16 take a look at how little ram the older PDP11 systems had Sep 14 02:34:40 atmega1284p, has 128K flash and 16KB of sram Sep 14 02:35:11 not too bad but still tiny Sep 14 02:35:17 I also tracked down the guy who created the picoweb server with an AVR 8515 Sep 14 02:35:48 tiny yes, useless most likely. but hell why not just to see if it will run Sep 14 02:36:24 one ofthe BSDs can be tiny bit been a long time since ive checked which and how much Sep 14 02:36:59 possibly netbsd but idk Sep 14 02:37:25 no doubt, I picked an old version of UNIX as it was simpler and without an MMU Sep 14 02:37:42 busybox ~16M i think Sep 14 02:38:15 again the chip I have my eye on has only 16 kilo bytes of internal ram Sep 14 02:38:24 * m_billybob nods Sep 14 02:39:34 one hell of a task, cant say im jealous ;) Sep 14 02:40:14 then again somebody already wrote an ARM emulator for the ATmega644p Sep 14 02:40:36 titled the worlds worst linux PC Sep 14 02:40:50 ARM what ? M0----- ? Sep 14 02:41:00 it's on hack a day Sep 14 02:41:02 Hi.... I've got the bonescript update issue Sep 14 02:41:10 is there an easy way to fix ? Sep 14 02:41:15 * m_billybob doesnt read HaD much Sep 14 02:41:19 it happned after an update/upgrade Sep 14 02:41:34 Jeryy a bit ore information needs be forthcomming Sep 14 02:41:45 a bit more* Sep 14 02:42:04 :hi sky is blue . . .why ? " Sep 14 02:42:21 there's a lot of posts about the issue.. no answers yet Sep 14 02:42:37 Jerry, need more information . . . Sep 14 02:42:38 beaglebone:/lib/systemd/system# opkg install bonescriptPackage bonescript (1.0-r21.5) installed in root is up to date. Configuring bonescript. Job for bonescript.socket failed. See 'systemctl status bonescript.socket' and 'journalctl -xn' for details. Collected errors: * pkg_run_script: package "bonescript" postinst script returned status 1. * opkg_configure: bonescript.postinst returned 1. Sep 14 02:42:48 * m_billybob sighs. Sep 14 02:43:10 bonescript.socket Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/bonescript.socket; enabled) Active: inactive (dead) since Sat 2013-09-14 02:19:23 UTC; 23min ago CGroup: name=systemd:/system/bonescript.socket Sep 14 02:20:11 beaglebone systemd[1]: Starting bonescript.socket. Sep 14 02:20:11 beaglebone systemd[1]: Failed to listen on bonescript.socket. Sep 14 02:20:26 beaglebone systemd[1]: Closed bonescript.socket. Sep 14 02:22:26 bea Sep 14 02:43:22 * m_billybob sighs yet again. Sep 14 02:43:36 journalctl -xn Sep 14 02:43:54 -- Logs begin at Sat 2000-01-01 00:50:13 UTC, end at Sat 2013-09-14 02:38:51 UTC Sep 14 02:35:17 beaglebone systemd[1]: Starting bonescript.socket. Sep 14 02:35:17 beaglebone systemd[1]: Socket service bonescript.service already Sep 14 02:35:17 beaglebone systemd[1]: Failed to listen on bonescript.socket. Sep 14 02:35:20 beaglebone bonescript[635]: [35B blob data] Sep 14 02:38:51 beaglebone systemd[1]: Reloading. Sep 14 02:38:51 beag Sep 14 02:44:03 * m_billybob leaaves. Sep 14 02:44:11 should I just set the socket to a differentport ? Sep 14 02:45:55 has anyone here ran into the bonescript upgrade issue ? Sep 14 02:46:26 * N2TOH just got one today and am still learning how to update it Sep 14 02:46:41 don't... update breaks it. Sep 14 02:46:51 good to know Sep 14 02:47:00 I am still working on fixing mine. pretty soon I will need to just install a new image. Sep 14 02:47:13 I am not a linux newbie... bonescript broke. Sep 14 02:47:15 so maybe it's a good thing I'm trying to dual boot Ubuntu :) Sep 14 02:47:24 do you use opkg ? Sep 14 02:47:36 how do I specify an older version ? Sep 14 02:47:48 I see them both but I have not used opkg. Sep 14 02:47:53 Jerry_ you asking me? Sep 14 02:48:11 yes you or anyone else LOL Sep 14 02:48:17 nope Sep 14 02:49:58 what are you using for wifi ? I am using the netgear mico usb... but it's slow.. so I switched to wired ehternet while learn the environemnt Sep 14 02:58:20 anyone here know how to fix the bonescript install ? Sep 14 02:58:24 nothing on the net **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Sep 14 02:59:59 2013