**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Sep 20 03:00:00 2013 Sep 20 03:02:06 so, the usb spam in the kernel log, and all of the systemd journal activity it causes, seems to be whiping out my sd cards :-| Sep 20 03:02:20 i'm on my third card with the usb connected beaglebone, ethernet-only beaglebone is still on first. Sep 20 03:06:30 so, stock beaglebone, with latest production image, just sitting there powered on, will kill the emmc or sd card eventually. woot! Sep 20 03:07:19 i feel sorry for all the shmucks who don't compile their own kernels and expect stuff to not die, lol. Sep 20 03:08:47 * nomel thinks board death from idle should be just cause for pushing out a new production image....but he's also a grouchy. Sep 20 03:13:08 for added fun, you can made small changes to the kernel or uboot and have that really kill your board :D Sep 20 03:13:50 heh Sep 20 03:15:26 nomel: what usb spam do you speak of? what kernel are you running? Sep 20 03:15:46 Mmmmm usb spam Sep 20 03:15:58 any usb eggs to go with that? Sep 20 03:16:21 *barf* Sep 20 03:17:18 Me + Eggs = SEGV Sep 20 03:21:40 type 7 segfault Sep 20 03:22:03 (as indicated on the 'bristol chart') Sep 20 03:28:36 Does anyone have a recommendation for a distro for the BBB? Sep 20 03:28:49 Hey folks, question: how do you guys handle more than one beaglebone connected via udsb at one time?If you have more than 1 at a time. I'm trying to get usb-ethernet going on two at once, but only the first one I give an IP to can be accessed. The other one is always "host unreachable" Sep 20 03:29:43 ZsparksNY: angstrom does work great. if not, go with w hat you are comfortable with. Sep 20 03:30:09 ZsparksNY: here is a big long list of them http://circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=BeagleBoneBlack#Software_Resources :) Sep 20 03:32:11 Magyarm: Thanks.. I've been through the list.. Can't get a feel for them without trying them.. Sep 20 03:32:33 ZsparksNY: i like the angstrom that comes with it Sep 20 03:32:40 it's got opkg Sep 20 03:33:47 ZsparksNY: go with the distro you use on your host then (assuming you use one). For me I've been on Arch for a while now, and got familar with PKGBUILDs, so use that on my *bone's too Sep 20 03:37:00 Mag: I have a web application running on Centos.. and am considering moving it to the BB.. I think Fedora is proabably closer to Centos. Sep 20 03:37:27 Fedora is very similar to cent Sep 20 03:38:11 Anyone know where the toolchain is for https://github.com/pantoniou/testpru ? Sep 20 03:38:16 my money would be on it would be the easiest port Sep 20 03:38:21 There appears to be a C ompilter for the pru? Sep 20 03:38:27 compiler* Sep 20 03:39:10 Mag: I haven't had too much luck with the BB (white).. they kinda got Fedora 14 on it.. but it looks like the BBB can run Fedora 19 Sep 20 03:44:25 Mag: Are you still trying to get two BB connected? Sep 20 03:44:49 anyone aware of USB board? looking to several control powered USB ports with the beaglebone. Sep 20 03:45:00 or maybe building one would be fairly easy? Sep 20 03:47:44 ZsparksNy: yes, but I seem to have killed my sdcard, so have to recreate. Sep 20 03:47:50 My hunch is that I didn't do my udev rules correctly Sep 20 03:48:48 it's funny, I've had much better luck with my BB white than with the black. While you sound to have the opposite Sep 20 03:49:46 funkster: so you want the power to several usb ports controlled by a beaglebone? Sep 20 03:49:47 Mag.. Actually, I had better luck with the Raspi.. but it's too slow. Sep 20 03:50:29 magyarm: yes, i just want to control the power on/off of multiple USB ports, controlled by bone, yup. Sep 20 03:50:48 ZSparksNY: haha, I am yet to try one honestly. Been looking at either a cubieboard, or wandboard as my next board Sep 20 03:51:08 the USB ports would have its own power source, not through the bone. Sep 20 03:52:18 Funkster.. You just want to switch power on and off? Sep 20 03:52:36 funkster: If you just want power, and don't care about data, then that would be pretty easy. Just get a proto board, and bunch of bare usb ports, so 500ma or greater mosfets and a 5V power supply that can output enough current for your needs Sep 20 03:52:43 ZsparksNY: correct, i dont need any data. Sep 20 03:53:16 would i use a relay to shut on/off the power to the USB from the bone? Sep 20 03:53:35 you could use a relay Sep 20 03:53:38 Funkster.. As Mag says, use MOSFETS or relays.. Sep 20 03:54:02 mosfet with a low Rds-on would probably be easier Sep 20 03:54:30 There are plenty of schmatics you can find for switching. Sep 20 03:54:33 the trick with all this is, you will have NO circuits to prevent the device from drawing too much Sep 20 03:55:07 that is normally built into usb host devices, so just be mindful of how much current you are drawing Sep 20 03:58:33 they make single chip switches with current limit for this very purpose, you know! Sep 20 04:01:44 ds2 I did not know this! Sep 20 04:11:53 Take a look at: http://www.maximintegrated.com/datasheet/index.mvp/id/4512 Sep 20 04:15:32 niiice =D Sep 20 04:15:42 i still need to hire someone to put all this together, lol. Sep 20 04:17:34 Actually, a dual switch would probably be better.. http://www.maximintegrated.com/datasheet/index.mvp/id/2432 Sep 20 04:19:02 ZsparksNY: very nice find! now the one trick is finding maxim parts in stock :P Sep 20 04:19:28 As always.. :) Sep 20 04:19:40 funkster: you can do it! kicad has a low learning curve (relatively), and there are a lot of cheep pcb fabs online Sep 20 04:19:44 Just request a few samples Sep 20 04:19:54 It works for me.. :) Sep 20 04:20:08 current favourite: http://oshpark.com/ Sep 20 04:20:38 bahaha, i haven't tried that in a while. TI cut me off earlier this year and I haven't tried with anyone since Sep 20 04:20:55 magyarm: what did TI say? Sep 20 04:21:19 ds2: "your request for sample was not approved" Sep 20 04:21:24 or something to that effect Sep 20 04:21:28 that's it? no reason? Sep 20 04:21:34 wow you've been denied? Sep 20 04:21:35 not that I remember Sep 20 04:21:36 crazy Sep 20 04:21:56 i did get a lot of stuff during my under grad thesis Sep 20 04:22:20 I make my own boards.. All I need is a laser printer, a clothes iron and some ferric cloride. Sep 20 04:22:46 just mill them Sep 20 04:24:40 I tried silk screening for a while.. too much trouble making the screens. Sep 20 04:24:58 home made LPKF? Sep 20 04:25:07 or a real LPKF Sep 20 04:25:37 that's taking the easy way out. Sep 20 04:26:17 LPKF's aren't that expensive if you think about it Sep 20 04:26:25 AVNet has the MAX1812.. $2.50 ea Sep 20 04:26:41 A small price to pay.. Sep 20 04:27:23 how much is shipping? Sep 20 04:27:24 $25? Sep 20 04:27:25 ;) Sep 20 04:28:11 Ground. Sep 20 04:36:58 Can I get a visual feed from my BBB? Sep 20 04:37:16 i.e. w/out capes? Sep 20 04:37:49 where does your BBB get visual input? Sep 20 04:38:00 I do not know... Sep 20 04:38:05 I am a newbie. Sep 20 04:38:14 use a usb webcam? Sep 20 04:38:22 I can... Sep 20 04:39:17 I was thinking since I ran Angstrom, I could get a visual on my PC from the BBB. Sep 20 04:40:16 I need to get a breadboard so that I can start experimenting. Sep 20 04:40:38 I am off...Have fun. Sep 20 05:49:11 Anyone know why TI's ADC driver doesn't show up in Angstrom's kernel config anymore? Sep 20 07:12:27 hello, i'm trying to compile lftp for beagleboard black edition, but i get a compilation error. I'm using Angstrom distro (on flash) Sep 20 07:13:10 maybe some dependencies can't be found Sep 20 07:14:12 here you can check the logs: ./configure -> http://pastebin.com/6Y0vzLxy and make -> http://pastebin.com/puGfEVkc Sep 20 07:25:39 is it possible to use lftp on beagleboard with angstrom distribution? Sep 20 07:25:59 i can't get it working Sep 20 07:30:00 https://www.google.de/search?q=undefined+reference+to+%60DirectedBuffer%3A%3ASetTranslator(DataTranslator*)&oq=undefined+reference+to+%60DirectedBuffer%3A%3ASetTranslator(DataTranslator*)&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 Sep 20 07:30:11 always google the error message Sep 20 07:30:23 from what I see, you need to adress the lftp team Sep 20 07:30:36 or dig at it yourself Sep 20 07:30:46 since it fails on another platform too Sep 20 07:32:00 https://github.com/lavv17/lftp/commit/5bcc0dd2b6d0d3b4c56dac442cf509086df729a4 Sep 20 07:32:05 this is 4 days ago Sep 20 07:32:06 might help Sep 20 07:36:30 ok thankyou Sep 20 07:36:42 thank Larry and Sergey Sep 20 07:50:41 I am still having problems with properly enabling caching for MINIX. I also posted a ti forum question here http://e2e.ti.com/support/arm/sitara_arm/f/791/t/291199.aspx . basically I just don't understand the relation between page table caching flags and the caching flags in the ttbr0 register Sep 20 07:51:20 is it admisible to configure ttbr0 to use the inner cache on am355x? Sep 20 07:52:29 i can't see which lines of code have been changed... I think that the only change is the function position inside the file Sep 20 07:52:48 here - > https://github.com/lavv17/lftp/commit/5bcc0dd2b6d0d3b4c56dac442cf509086df729a4 Sep 20 08:05:12 someone knows if modified kernel for CAN cape -> TT3201 works on debian distro? Sep 20 08:08:00 is it possible to use hdmi and lcd at the same time on bbb ? Sep 20 08:11:56 qt-x: no, the bbb has one(!) display controller. Sep 20 08:13:51 very easy, add another display controller Sep 20 08:23:25 LetoThe2nd: so if i make a device tree overlay with hdmi and lcd In the end I wont be able to control both ? Sep 20 08:23:56 LetoThe2nd: is a software limitation or hardware ? Sep 20 08:24:36 qt-x: it has only one display controller. so: hardware. Sep 20 08:25:06 even if I want same image on both ? Sep 20 08:25:18 *sigh* Sep 20 08:25:42 So answer still no :( Sep 20 08:25:51 can you set two different clockings on one controller? or two different resolutions? more precisely, on the same mpins? Sep 20 08:26:06 read and think. Sep 20 08:26:51 you could maybe bitbang (sub-)vga with the pruss :) Sep 20 08:27:48 well, the parallel video signal goes to both HDMI encoder and the LCD connectors. so in theory you could have picture on both outputs, with the exact same timings. Sep 20 08:28:26 tomba: thats the only possible case - i doubt though that there is a display that by accident accepts the same timings as the hdmi transceiver. Sep 20 08:29:12 LetoThe2nd: you could attach the LCD output to another HDMI encoder, and have an image on two HDMI monitors =) Sep 20 08:32:40 hrhr... might work if both monitors send the same timings back etc. but then, buying an hdmi splitter is certainly easier. Sep 20 08:33:20 what's the fun in that... Sep 20 08:33:40 "fun"? Sep 20 08:35:56 you can also add an FPGA on the LCD pins that adapts the timing to a slightly different LCD Sep 20 08:36:01 much fun to be had Sep 20 08:36:30 for heavily varying definitions of "fun" Sep 20 08:36:48 well, one 1st OMAP3 we had to do that Sep 20 08:36:56 it could not emit long enough porches Sep 20 08:37:03 hrhrhr Sep 20 08:37:05 on* Sep 20 08:37:18 so we added an FPGA that added 32 clocks to the blanking internal Sep 20 08:37:21 interval Sep 20 08:38:02 hadn't been picking another display been cheaper? Sep 20 08:38:06 thats why our values in the dss2 timings are "off by 32" Sep 20 08:38:12 LetoThe2nd: you have no idea Sep 20 08:38:22 one does not simply "pick" displays Sep 20 08:38:36 hrrrhrrrhrrrrrrrr Sep 20 08:39:26 these days its easy, mkt is flooded with ipad displays Sep 20 08:39:31 few years ago, not so much Sep 20 08:39:58 there was either "industrial" for $$$ or "please order and pay 100k NOW" Sep 20 08:40:22 * LetoThe2nd always had the impression that fpga == $$$ Sep 20 08:40:57 no Sep 20 08:41:00 it was cheaper than the level shifter that we needed anyway :) Sep 20 08:41:11 * LetoThe2nd palms face Sep 20 08:41:16 true story Sep 20 08:41:26 hi! I Am trying to build an Angstorm Image from Fedora, i m following instructions from "http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom" well i have to get the OpenEmbedded Sources ? i cant figure out how :/ Sep 20 08:41:45 follow the steps Sep 20 08:44:08 git clone git://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core oe-core cd oe-core git clone git://git.openembedded.org/bitbake bitbake source ./oe-init-build-env [] bitbake is failing saying Syntax error when i do bitbake core-image-minimal Sep 20 08:44:51 what step is that? Sep 20 08:45:30 My Understanding is, i get the OpenEmbedded Sources from the core and do the ./oe-init-build-env that builds the open embedded core right? Sep 20 08:45:48 after that i do MACHINE=beagleboard ./oebb.sh bitbake virtual/kernel Sep 20 08:46:16 why dont you do step 1 first? Sep 20 08:46:27 git clone git://github.com/Angstrom-distribution/setup-scripts.git Sep 20 08:46:37 yes i did that Sep 20 08:46:45 MACHINE=beagleboard ./oebb.sh config beagleboard MACHINE=beagleboard ./oebb.sh update Sep 20 08:46:47 ok Sep 20 08:46:48 is also done Sep 20 08:46:51 i m on the 3rd Step Sep 20 08:46:57 ok Sep 20 08:47:49 Don't i need the Angstorm Sources? Sep 20 08:47:54 i mean the OPen Embedded sources? Sep 20 08:48:17 thats what the setup scripts do Sep 20 08:48:52 ok after i run the 3rd command, i m stuck on Unable to open conf/bitbake.conf Sep 20 08:49:20 the config step gets all the sources Sep 20 08:49:37 please pastebin a log of the failure Sep 20 08:55:41 ERROR: Unable to parse /ssd/vladimir/svn/bbb/angstrom/setup-scripts/sources/meta-smartphone/meta-htc/conf/layer.conf: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/ssd/vladimir/svn/bbb/angstrom/setup-scripts/sources/meta-smartphone/meta-htc/conf/layer.conf' Sep 20 08:55:44 is what I get Sep 20 08:56:03 khem: Crofton|work: Crofton: ^^^^ Sep 20 09:12:17 JFK911: you talk about adding another display controller in order to have dual display on bbb does this imply modification to the bbb itself or can be simply added to a cape ? Sep 20 09:12:51 depends Sep 20 09:13:00 bitbang VGA! Sep 20 09:14:01 SPI display Sep 20 09:14:09 or bitbang something with the PRU Sep 20 09:34:06 andy Sep 20 09:34:17 bndy Sep 20 09:34:18 i mean Av500 u need a pastebin of the whole log? Sep 20 09:37:51 http://pastebin.com/BAHYT6qa Sep 20 09:39:19 Andy__: imagine for a second that we are not standing behind you Sep 20 09:40:49 amm, okay :/ Sep 20 09:41:13 which means, giving us as much info as you can is maybe worth considering Sep 20 09:45:29 Here sir, whatever i could capture is on http://pastebin.com/P4EhLcdc Sep 20 09:48:44 erm Sep 20 09:48:50 you are doing that on the bone??? Sep 20 09:49:03 and as root? Sep 20 09:49:11 ah not on Bone Sep 20 09:49:15 but why root? Sep 20 09:51:50 av500: shall i palm your face? Sep 20 09:55:21 http://pastebin.com/P4EhLcdc here sir Sep 20 09:56:31 ? Sep 20 09:56:45 please repeat the process as a normal user Sep 20 09:56:47 not as root Sep 20 10:27:10 Hello People Sep 20 10:44:20 hi! i wonder if it is possible to combine bitbake recipes, e.g. run "bitbake meta-toolchain-qte" and then run "bitbake gdb-cross" ? Sep 20 10:44:44 sure Sep 20 10:45:18 so the output of both gets merged? Sep 20 11:04:45 i guess so Sep 20 11:15:58 av500, you are trying to build angstrom? Sep 20 11:17:02 indeed Sep 20 11:17:10 trying to follow the steps Sep 20 11:17:24 hmmm Sep 20 11:17:31 the exact steps Sep 20 11:17:51 which branch of setup scripts? Sep 20 11:18:21 Crofton|work: how would I know? Sep 20 11:18:28 I need to ask koenkooi why he didn't use a Makefile Sep 20 11:18:34 I follow the website that we throw at everybody Sep 20 11:18:35 git branch? Sep 20 11:18:49 my bash prompt includes the directory Sep 20 11:19:04 "http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom Sep 20 11:19:24 master Sep 20 11:19:35 in setup scripts Sep 20 11:23:05 working Sep 20 11:23:10 coffee not in lpace Sep 20 11:26:05 looking at commits not sure what is up Sep 20 11:26:43 we really should switch the repo management to repo Sep 20 11:27:54 I assume you looked to see if the file existed Sep 20 11:29:21 av500, it is running on my pc Sep 20 11:29:45 not a fresh clone, but if koen commited something bad before leaving, I can't see it Sep 20 11:32:23 its a fresh checkout from today Sep 20 11:32:45 the error msg cays it cannot find meta-smartphone and I dont see meta-smartphone either Sep 20 11:32:51 hm Sep 20 11:38:40 maybe a temp fail of the meta-smartphone repo? Sep 20 11:41:20 url in layers.txt looks ok Sep 20 12:10:08 hi! I am following "http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom" to build custom kernel, if i do not run the commands under root it says Access denied and if i run it under root it compleres but on the 3rd Step it fails Sep 20 12:10:40 pastebin a log Sep 20 12:10:42 sigh Sep 20 12:17:17 just a moment sir, getting things across machines Sep 20 12:18:47 inefficient Sep 20 12:18:48 http://pastebin.com/S3Z7KRQf here it goes Sep 20 12:19:00 if i dont use root, it says access denied :/ Sep 20 12:19:10 Do not use Bitbake as root. Sep 20 12:19:16 "Do not use Bitbake as root." Sep 20 12:19:19 so, DO NOT USE ROOT Sep 20 12:19:36 I dont see access denied in that pastebin Sep 20 12:19:45 please stop wasting our time Sep 20 12:19:50 have a nice afternoon Sep 20 12:22:12 no! that was root access, This is without Root http://pastebin.com/Jw7UGirt Sep 20 12:22:34 gnsx: if you have done anything in there with root access, then you need to wipe and start again Sep 20 12:22:43 gnsx: clone as user, run as user Sep 20 12:22:52 ls -l /home/rz2/Desktop/Bone/setup-scripts/conf/sedWkzuiE Sep 20 12:23:20 [11:56] please repeat the process as a normal user Sep 20 12:23:25 as I said, wasting time Sep 20 12:24:36 When i use the normal user it says pErmission denied Sep 20 12:24:50 ls -l /home/rz2/Desktop/Bone/setup-scripts/conf/sedWkzuiE Sep 20 12:25:01 ls -l /home/rz2/Desktop/Bone/setup-scripts/conf/ Sep 20 12:25:03 thats why i asked should i use root? >.< normal user says Permission denied for everythng Sep 20 12:25:10 ls -l /home/rz2/Desktop/Bone/setup-scripts/conf/ Sep 20 12:25:21 [14:22] gnsx: if you have done anything in there with root access, then you need to wipe and start again Sep 20 12:25:27 can you FUCKING read? Sep 20 12:25:37 trol Sep 20 12:25:38 troll Sep 20 12:26:01 conf has auto.conf bblayers.conf local.conf site.conf Sep 20 12:27:24 @jacksmith i did it with a normal user it says Access DENIED! yes i resynced i mean re cloned and tried too it just says Access denied Sep 20 12:28:54 <_av500_> ls -l Sep 20 12:29:07 <_av500_> and pastebin it Sep 20 12:31:25 pastebin.com/VjAaHGQz this is when it was donr from root and pastebin.com/8mmXCyq2 from USer Sep 20 12:32:52 gnsx: I would sudo rm -rf setup-scripts, then git clone http://........ setup-scripts2 and retry in that completely new directory Sep 20 12:33:17 thats what i did in the 2nd Pastebin what i linked Sep 20 12:33:20 it says Permission Denied Sep 20 12:33:21 >.< Sep 20 12:33:24 gnsx: if it still says access denied, then you have something wrong with your system Sep 20 12:33:47 gnsx: no, you re-sued setup-scripts, are you sure it was fully deleted and didn't have any previous build artifacts? Sep 20 12:34:36 <_av500_> ls -l the file that cannot be accessed Sep 20 12:35:24 <_av500_> its you in front of it, not us Sep 20 12:37:25 ok, Here is NO ROOT< i made a new folder and then started the procedure http://pastebin.com/hv1jyVre Sep 20 12:38:42 <_av500_> still bone andnot bonenr Sep 20 12:39:11 <_av500_> still artifacts from using root Sep 20 12:39:24 av500, bone was done in root u want me to get a log from there? u guys says not to use root so i made the new directory Sep 20 12:39:36 BoneNR is not made using root Sep 20 12:39:52 <_av500_> can you read? Sep 20 12:40:03 <_av500_> the failed file is in Bone Sep 20 12:40:28 <_av500_> something remembers Bone Sep 20 12:40:35 <_av500_> some dot file Sep 20 12:40:38 so i'l delete bone? Sep 20 12:40:40 and try? Sep 20 12:40:45 <_av500_> its free Sep 20 12:40:49 <_av500_> do it Sep 20 12:41:54 <_av500_> koenkooi: caught you Sep 20 13:31:39 morning Sep 20 13:31:48 back among the living Sep 20 13:40:52 so having tested the bbb and out pbx project thus far ..... we are good to go. with a few small performance issues to fix Sep 20 13:41:13 but for a home pbx/soho pbx the bbb works great Sep 20 13:41:46 10 exten with vm pounded for 1 week and it did not fail Sep 20 13:42:14 but I have to talk to the bb makers abotu uping the emmc to 4 gig Sep 20 13:42:23 2 gig is not enough Sep 20 13:42:31 its to tight Sep 20 13:42:42 use sdcard? Sep 20 13:43:01 we use the sd slot for plugin auto backup Sep 20 13:43:22 it detects the sd incerted and does a system backup of the pbx Sep 20 13:43:30 so it has to remain open Sep 20 13:43:46 and the usb slot is used for a gsm modem connection Sep 20 13:44:05 I htink 4 gig would do everyone better Sep 20 13:44:16 htink/think Sep 20 13:44:59 we have also started testing a beowolf server construct based on the bbb Sep 20 13:46:21 oh Sep 20 13:47:34 but again we will hit the emmc size issues I believe Sep 20 13:47:49 just use a SAN Sep 20 13:48:18 rneese: what is the big user of space? Sep 20 13:48:45 voicemail and fax storage Sep 20 13:48:59 rneese: I assume you're doing a custom OpenEmbedded build with stripped down packages etc.. ah, ok, realy data storage Sep 20 13:49:02 and cdr log files Sep 20 13:49:39 yeah, I agree then; not much you can do about that other than get more space, or networked space... Sep 20 13:50:21 thats why I wish they would move to a socket like the odroid has Sep 20 13:50:42 av500: do you still have the problem with meta-smartphone? Sep 20 13:51:05 rneese, socket is money Sep 20 13:53:02 helli Sep 20 13:53:09 hello Sep 20 13:53:32 how can i change the function of gpio in my BBB.....???? Sep 20 13:53:50 how can i set the mode Sep 20 13:53:55 in which file Sep 20 13:54:01 ? Sep 20 13:54:08 all of a buck Sep 20 13:54:19 the sockets for emmc are small and cheap Sep 20 13:55:12 but ok Sep 20 13:55:25 then atleast up to 4 gig Sep 20 13:55:35 2 gig is not alot now days Sep 20 13:55:52 other then that so far its working out Sep 20 13:59:57 Hi, has anybody tried to build Yocto for Beaglebone Black? Sep 20 14:01:23 rs_: afaik, yocto isn't something you can build Sep 20 14:05:17 i mean poky build for bbb Sep 20 14:11:21 rneese, it's all about cost Sep 20 14:11:40 If you want a different BBB, contact CCO about a white label version or whatever they're called Sep 20 14:13:33 Tartarus_: i took some time to look at the SPL docs. google helped me a bit...so that now there is a generic framework to make SPL for different boards ? Sep 20 14:13:46 vvu|Log, yeah, common/spl/ Sep 20 14:14:56 Tartarus_: so common spl is based on the config file from includes/configs to set up the memory and everythign? Sep 20 14:15:20 Well, it still uses the soc specific code as needed Sep 20 14:15:36 But it's just for things like that, rather than generic concepts Sep 20 14:16:16 i see spl_mmc spl_net spl_ymodem, there are for different places from where to take u-boot right ? Sep 20 14:16:43 right Sep 20 14:17:15 in my case AM335x uses for netbooting spl_net Sep 20 14:17:34 right Sep 20 14:18:56 so currently the SPL for xM does not support netboot over USB or does not suppoer netboot at all ? Sep 20 14:19:18 ok will do Sep 20 14:28:25 Im having trouble connecting to my beaglebone black on ubuntu, i've downloaded the driver .sh file but i get an sudo error when i try to run it? Sep 20 14:46:16 Hello Sep 20 14:46:30 can I please ask a question about bob? Sep 20 14:46:36 about bbb Sep 20 14:46:42 not bob ;) Sep 20 14:47:11 you can also ask questions about bob Sep 20 14:47:21 though we would prefere if you'd not ask about robert Sep 20 14:47:40 rofl Sep 20 14:48:04 I need to install a demo image of windows ce 6.0 R3 on a BBB Sep 20 14:48:23 but I can't found the demo image Sep 20 14:48:40 after the test I will buy the bsp Sep 20 14:48:54 wrong channel Sep 20 14:48:59 I want to make a better cardboard enclosure for my BBB, is there already a template? If not some measurements would be convenient (as my calipers are missing), can't find them on the circuitco wiki, are they available somewhere?) Sep 20 14:49:00 we only have linux guys here Sep 20 14:49:08 you have to ask ms directly Sep 20 14:49:36 blaaa: there are measures of the board somewhere available Sep 20 14:49:38 uhm, ok.. Sep 20 14:49:56 KotH: I'll just look harder then Sep 20 14:50:30 there is a nice metal case for the bbb Sep 20 14:50:52 rneese: you mean the one @ logicsupply? Sep 20 14:50:59 yes Sep 20 14:51:00 The orange one is nice.... Sep 20 14:51:08 I have the black one Sep 20 14:51:18 metal? it will cause a disturbance in the flux Sep 20 14:51:26 lol Sep 20 14:51:34 mrpackethead: you can compenaste that with a flux capacitor Sep 20 14:51:58 compensate* Sep 20 14:52:01 I thought about taking my rotary tool and making an ash enclosure.... Sep 20 14:52:10 would that cause any disturbances? Sep 20 14:52:10 thanks, so no idea where download windows ce for bob? Sep 20 14:52:31 whos bob Sep 20 14:52:45 Giorgio: we have every couple of months someone asking about windows, but they just walk away and never come back again Sep 20 14:52:55 mrpackethead: bbb's evil twin brother Sep 20 14:53:10 * SpeedEvil imagines WinCeine. Sep 20 14:53:29 KotH: yes I can imagine.. but I need to test some application under windows ce Sep 20 14:53:34 I thought special comp used to sell sd card with it preinstalled , not sure if that version worked on the bbb though Sep 20 14:53:43 wince on the bbb I would rather have win xp embedded Sep 20 14:53:46 if I was running windows Sep 20 14:53:48 is wince even a possibility? Sep 20 14:54:27 Giorgio: yes, but nobody here runs windows on the bbb. and nobody of those who use windows ever reported back what they found out. hence nobody can answer your question Sep 20 14:54:40 ok Sep 20 14:55:12 Giorgio: ask your friendly ms representative and get a copy from him Sep 20 14:55:25 why? Sep 20 14:56:26 bgates@microsoft.com Sep 20 14:57:50 rneese, only problem *is* WinXP embedded has no support for ARM afaik. So you're stuck with WinCE, or possibly WinRT. Sep 20 14:58:02 these claim to have WinCE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2Ttujf6cWU Sep 20 14:58:09 https://specialcomp.com/beagleboard/xm.htm here's a 1hr demo for the xm... Sep 20 14:58:23 and android, but no Linux for some reason Sep 20 15:02:06 android is linux. Sep 20 15:02:23 and the reason why is that android has the SGX drivers already in it Sep 20 15:03:13 so android should run faster on the BBB, then the other OS distros? Sep 20 15:03:20 interesting, but why doesn't then our linux have sgx Sep 20 15:03:32 they use a earlier kernel Sep 20 15:03:40 i see, probably 3.2 Sep 20 15:04:05 btw, does bitbake create MLO? Sep 20 15:04:12 no idea Sep 20 15:04:31 i see the uImage but no MLO in the output Sep 20 15:31:41 I found an openscad file with BBB measurements, is there a nice tool to extract dimensions? Sep 20 15:33:43 or even better, make some 2d prints to scale Sep 20 15:33:44 ? Sep 20 15:34:44 openscad hints that it's open Sep 20 15:34:51 i would see ifyou can download a copy Sep 20 15:35:48 SpeedEvil: I can douwnload it all right (http://www.openscad.org/) but it's not really clear I can easily obtain the measurements I need from the files Sep 20 15:36:26 If you can't work out dimensions using a cad program and a cad file, there is something wrong with either you or the cad program Sep 20 15:39:09 [kernel] RobertCNelson pushed 1 new commit to 3.12: http://git.io/ZBYf2w Sep 20 15:39:09 kernel/3.12 18705f7 Robert Nelson: 3.12: update to latest mainline, ARM: dts: am335x-bone*: add DT for BeagleBone Black is now mainline!... Sep 20 15:39:13 'there is extrusion of 2D outlines' sounds all right to me Sep 20 15:39:19 I'll just try it out Sep 20 15:39:53 wow :) Sep 20 15:40:28 ok wime to make a laptop out of a odroid board Sep 20 15:40:32 lol Sep 20 15:40:41