**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Sep 23 02:59:59 2013 Sep 23 03:02:39 Hi all! I just got the BBB and installed Arch on it. I'm having a few issues getting it set up properly though. Sep 23 03:03:24 I should preface my problems by letting you know that I'm a fairly novice Linux user. That being said, i've done a ton of research on these particular problems and have come across no obvious solutions. (1) Arch runs fine off the micro SD but won't boot when flashed to the eMMC. (2)I've tried to set up a wi-fi usb dongle, but can't seem to figure out how to get it going. Sep 23 03:05:24 (3)This one is just functionality that i want to bring back. Getting the ethernet over usb going again. It hasn't been working since i installed Arch. Sep 23 03:06:15 i might be able to help you with usb-ethernet. I'm running arch on my laptop and my beaglebones Sep 23 03:06:30 do you have g_ether module loaded on the beaglebone? Sep 23 03:08:19 for (1) how are you flashing Arch? You should just install it to the emmc once booted into arch on the sdcard Sep 23 03:09:02 since qt is not working, what are the alternatives for GUI development which does not require a window manager? Sep 23 03:09:21 for (2): what output do you get from dmesg when you plug/unplug the wifi-dongle Sep 23 03:09:59 twospoons: I'm afraid I've never used a gui on my *bones so can't recommend anything Sep 23 03:10:31 I'm so close to getting it working on ubuntu.. I just never felt comfortable running Angstrom Sep 23 03:10:48 what DE are you using? could it be something with that? Sep 23 03:11:51 headless Sep 23 03:12:00 thanks for the quick reply! i'm not quite sure HOW to load g_ether. i looked around but i didn't see anything specific to ARM Sep 23 03:12:30 kevlawmusik: it's exactly the same as desktop. run modprobe g_ether Sep 23 03:12:34 and again, being a fairly new linux user, kinda wanted to avoid anything possibly breaking my install Sep 23 03:13:23 um, I break mine fairly regularly :P especially with arch the possibility is there with how quickly it updates Sep 23 03:13:43 but, just for getting you going with usb networking Sep 23 03:13:59 make sure you set g_ether to load on boot Sep 23 03:14:12 amazing...i'll try this out right now and let you know how it goes Sep 23 03:14:13 :) Sep 23 03:14:19 I'll see if I can find Derek Molloy's email address and see if he has figured this out. Sep 23 03:14:56 after you load g_ether, and get stuck again come back and I'll share my scripts for usb ethernet on arch laptop and arch *bone Sep 23 03:15:17 or, if you like, I can share them now Sep 23 03:16:08 on the bone: #!/bin/bash Sep 23 03:16:08 echo "Configuring usb0 192.168.42.4" Sep 23 03:16:09 ifconfig usb0 192.168.42.4 Sep 23 03:16:09 echo "Adding Default gateway" Sep 23 03:16:09 route add default gw 192.168.42.3 Sep 23 03:18:19 then on the arch linux host: Sep 23 03:18:19 ifconfig usb0 192.168.42.3 Sep 23 03:18:19 iptables --table nat --append POSTROUTING --out-inteerface wlan0 -j MASQUERADE Sep 23 03:18:19 iptables --append FORWARD --in-interface usb0 -j ACCEPT Sep 23 03:18:19 echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward Sep 23 03:18:56 twospoons: are you logging in with vnc? Sep 23 03:19:10 no, just ssh Sep 23 03:19:26 there is no window manager installed or vnc Sep 23 03:20:11 wouldn't qt have dependancies from a DE? or at least from X11? Sep 23 03:20:23 basically i was able to compile the qt embedded for arm, and deploy those to the beaglebone. The file compiles properly as ELF, but when I try to run the executable it says "file not found".. Sep 23 03:20:32 magyarm, you might be right Sep 23 03:20:46 the trouble is trying to find what dependencies I'm missing Sep 23 03:20:53 pardon if stupid question... I've never needed a gui, but I can imagine it needing stuff from X11 at least Sep 23 03:21:08 Apparently QT can run using the frame buffer directly Sep 23 03:21:18 aw, cool Sep 23 03:21:28 Check out Derek Molloy's vidoes on youtube, pretty amazing stuff Sep 23 03:21:46 I just dislike Angstrom, I can get it working there :) Sep 23 03:22:09 hey Sep 23 03:22:24 or let me rephrase, I'm more familiar with ubuntu Sep 23 03:22:26 I've watched a few of them. He does great work explaining everything Sep 23 03:22:36 can someone tell me if the ubuntu 12.04 image has ssh enabled by default? Sep 23 03:22:41 are you running ubuntu on your beaglebone now? Sep 23 03:22:42 13.04 did Sep 23 03:22:46 becasue the 13.04 has Sep 23 03:23:08 I just flashed it back to Angstrom, because I gave up.. But I ran it for a long time working with i2c sensors Sep 23 03:23:39 yeah but it says here that its the ubuntu minimal and ubuntu usually not has ssh enabled by default, i have no screen to connect Sep 23 03:24:02 hook up a screen to it I guess and enable it Sep 23 03:24:11 @magyarm - i need to take care of a couple things here. thank you so much for the info so far. i'll be back in about 30 mins. if you're still around i'm gonna need to pick your brain a little more. Sep 23 03:24:27 I HAVE TO SCREEN to connect! Sep 23 03:24:30 like i said Sep 23 03:24:43 that why i would love it someone could tell me Sep 23 03:24:46 wayne__: do you have a a serial to usb adapter that you can hook up? Sep 23 03:25:03 no Sep 23 03:25:20 wayne; http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/03/enable-ssh-secure-shell-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/ Sep 23 03:25:49 i guess i will just try but i have this feeling that ssh is not on by default http://www.armhf.com/index.php/boards/beaglebone-black/#precise Sep 23 03:25:49 kevlarmusik: I might be on, depends if current compile finishes in 30 min or not. going to bed once it's done. I hate waking up to a failed halway through the night :P Sep 23 03:26:23 thanks for the link but that is no use for me since i would need ssh to enable ssh ^^ Sep 23 03:26:41 not if you hook up a screen and a keyboard.. Sep 23 03:26:44 wayne__ my money would be that it is enabled... otherwise no way to connect to it on embedded device Sep 23 03:27:07 my screen has DVI and i have no micro hdmi to DVI cable Sep 23 03:27:37 and you tried the obvious ssh ubuntu@192.168.7.2 ? Sep 23 03:27:45 over usb Sep 23 03:28:01 that would be the way to go .. getting a usb cable Sep 23 03:28:33 i have not tryed anything Sep 23 03:28:51 kevlarmusik: one more thing to mention to you. most things from the arch wiki apply to arch linux arm. Just have to change a couple things. You get access to the AUR too (just change the PKGBUILD's arch to "armv5h") Sep 23 03:29:08 I mean.. you need to configure the device somehow.. how would you know what the ip address is? Sep 23 03:29:13 i just thaught baybe someone saids "no is has not" so i would skip the trouble flashing the sd again ... Sep 23 03:29:23 i will download flash and try now Sep 23 03:29:53 best way to try:) I flashed mine 3 time already tonight... I screw things up a lot ;) Sep 23 03:30:42 the device is listed as arm on the network if you have a router where you can get a list of the devices using dhcp Sep 23 03:32:05 not sure how reflashing will help.. i mean.. you need to know the ip address to ssh into.. Sep 23 03:32:20 since by default it's dhcp Sep 23 03:45:25 I got a BBB at LinuxCon. I booted it up, saw a UI, plugged in the network cord, and it shut off. Now when I power it up, the lights progress through some sequence (I'm not familiar with what that should be), then it shuts off. Sep 23 03:48:10 do the lights all light up at b4 it shuts down? Sep 23 03:48:13 are you powering from a DC power supply or usb? Sep 23 03:49:11 wayne__: yes Sep 23 03:49:13 magyarm: yes Sep 23 03:49:18 magyarm: er, usb Sep 23 03:49:24 you should just get the newest offical angstrom linux image, flash it with a sd card with the offical instructions and look if it workd fine after Sep 23 03:49:39 works* Sep 23 03:50:05 my default angstrom was buggy, ssh refused connection Sep 23 03:50:12 by no power down ussues Sep 23 03:50:17 but* Sep 23 03:50:34 I downloaded and flashed the uncompressed BeagleBone Black (eMMC flasher) image and tried booting. I held the boot button and plugged in the usb cord, but there's no indication that that's working. Sep 23 03:50:59 i got my bbb with a 8gb microsd that is SO TERRIBLE SLOW Sep 23 03:51:11 it take ages to write a image on it Sep 23 03:51:21 I aggree with wayne__. please try booting without the ethernet cable plugged in. It could be that the older version of the OS shuts down when on usb and tring to power from usb. The usb supplies much less than dc Sep 23 03:52:13 Yeah, I went back to just a HDMI cord and am powering with usb. Sep 23 03:52:57 I tried using a 1A usb charger to power, too. Sep 23 03:53:09 well why the screen? Sep 23 03:53:28 Apparently no reason since I can't see anything on it anyway. Sep 23 03:53:56 i not even have a screen to connect, just get the image on the card put it in, push the power button and let it flash till all lights light up Sep 23 03:54:09 i would connect nothing else but power and the sd Sep 23 03:55:24 freaking hell i need a faster sd card Sep 23 03:55:36 can the bbb boot from usb sticks as well? Sep 23 04:03:55 ähm Sep 23 04:04:19 i man the user button or what its call not the power btn Sep 23 04:04:26 meant* Sep 23 04:08:34 still around @magyarm ? Sep 23 04:14:29 just tried to "route add default gw 192.168.42.3" and it returned "SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable" Sep 23 04:23:15 fuck Sep 23 04:23:24 now everything is screweed up Sep 23 04:23:58 my laptop does not recongnise the sd and the bbb is not booting all lights up Sep 23 05:11:20 hey guys, I want run Ubuntu12.04 in my Beaglebone Black into emmc, but I failed, now the BBB don't blink any led while I plug in power. And I followed this:http://learn.adafruit.com/beaglebone-black-installing-operating-systems/ubuntu Sep 23 05:11:57 What should I do next, plz help me! Sep 23 05:16:20 mmcblk1 is the internal space? Sep 23 05:17:35 because it said fucking "permision deneid" even with sudo when i try to write a image to it Sep 23 05:18:24 How to flash BBB by the right way? Sep 23 05:18:47 official documentation lol Sep 23 05:20:18 write image to SD, connent NOTHING, put sd it, push user button on the beard while you apply power, wait for the LEDS to light up Sep 23 05:20:46 can take up to 45min, have fun Sep 23 05:21:40 yes, I followed this way, too. But the problem is the LEDS don't blink any way. Why??? Sep 23 05:22:17 did you flash the sd the right way? Sep 23 05:22:57 the leds not light at all? Sep 23 05:22:59 I think yes. use windows Sep 23 05:23:03 not even the lower singel one? Sep 23 05:23:25 the power led light up, others not. Sep 23 05:23:35 well they should Sep 23 05:23:39 no idea Sep 23 05:23:52 u use usb or real power? Sep 23 05:24:16 use power and real power, both tried. Sep 23 05:24:21 i have read and heared often that usb power is bad Sep 23 05:24:29 but for me it works fine Sep 23 05:24:44 can I use the usb power? Sep 23 05:24:47 weiting for a adapter,, baught the wrong DC ;) Sep 23 05:25:17 like i said, people saiy you should use a real DC power thing Sep 23 05:25:17 I mean, is the flash must use real power? Sep 23 05:26:27 oh, may be I should buy a real one and hdmi BTW Sep 23 05:26:51 did you now just said you tryed both? Sep 23 05:27:04 oh yes Sep 23 05:27:25 the usb power and DC Sep 23 05:27:46 so why you need to buy one, look like you ahve one lol Sep 23 05:27:48 the DC power is Nexus7's power Sep 23 05:28:11 it should be 5V 1A min i think Sep 23 05:28:18 5V2A Sep 23 05:28:25 i baught a 5V2A Sep 23 05:28:33 but connector is wrong Sep 23 05:28:37 to small Sep 23 05:28:44 1,35mm Sep 23 05:28:55 so I don't need an other real one Sep 23 05:28:56 ? Sep 23 05:29:03 no Sep 23 05:29:13 the 5V2A should be fine Sep 23 05:29:35 so you pushed the user button and then put the power cable in? Sep 23 05:29:36 er...but...why!!! I have bean confused 2 days Sep 23 05:29:46 yes, sure. Sep 23 05:30:08 maybe your beard is broken Sep 23 05:30:18 2 days? Sep 23 05:30:43 you reflashed the sd, does it show up files on windows? Sep 23 05:31:17 it's a new board, I don't think it broken Sep 23 05:31:18 not sure it is not a linux only system Sep 23 05:31:36 what happens if you jsut boot it wihout a sd? Sep 23 05:31:47 did it work b4 you tryed to flash it? Sep 23 05:31:49 now nothing! Sep 23 05:32:20 only power light. Sep 23 05:33:06 T_T Sep 23 05:38:52 pushed the user button and then put the power cable in, does it must work whit in-emmc img??? Sep 23 05:46:26 funny Sep 23 05:46:35 now i have the exact same shit Sep 23 05:46:51 my beagle is not shoing up any lamps after boot Sep 23 05:47:12 tryed to flash 12.04 Sep 23 05:47:15 ubuntu Sep 23 05:47:41 ffs i have 13.04 running but wanted the LTS realease for a serious secure mailserver Sep 23 05:48:05 http://circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=Ubuntu_On_BeagleBone_Black Sep 23 05:48:10 is this OK? Sep 23 05:49:42 But there's only ubuntu13.04 can be flash on emmc, right? Sep 23 05:50:07 yes Sep 23 05:50:13 wait no this like is bad Sep 23 05:50:22 the mmc flasher is outdated Sep 23 05:50:28 there is a newer one Sep 23 05:50:38 i used it and it worked fine Sep 23 05:50:42 er....I thought I downloaded the ubuntu12.04, maybe it's the error. Sep 23 05:50:59 yes that might be the case Sep 23 05:51:00 wait Sep 23 05:51:38 Could u show me the newer one? Sep 23 05:52:02 yes i wanted ... http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#eMMC:_BeagleBone_Black Sep 23 05:52:10 this it the better page Sep 23 05:52:27 they are all speard arround and not central organised it seems Sep 23 05:52:48 this one worked totally fien for me Sep 23 05:53:00 ok, let me see. Sep 23 05:53:02 and i will flash it again now with that Sep 23 05:53:39 wget https://rcn-ee.net/deb/flasher/raring/BBB-eMMC-flasher-ubuntu-13.04-2013-08-24.img.xz Sep 23 05:53:41 use this??? Sep 23 05:54:57 download this, and extract it by 7zip, and then flash it to sdcard, and push sdcard into BBB, and push user button, and then plug in power, and wait for the LEDs blink, am I right? Sep 23 05:55:48 yes somehow the LEDs should light up b4 you shodl realise the user btn i think Sep 23 05:56:03 and this image takes not as long as teh offical angrom Sep 23 05:56:26 ok, I see, will try it after work, lots of thanks to u! Sep 23 06:10:18 ding ding dong Sep 23 06:20:18 ROUND ! Sep 23 06:20:21 1 Sep 23 06:42:23 Hosa! Hosa! Hosa!!! Sep 23 06:47:31 lol all this stuff about a emmc flasher and qt embeded. and someone saying ubuntu 13.04 can only be flashed... Sep 23 06:47:39 makes me lol Sep 23 08:01:54 I am trying to do ssh connection for the first time on the beaglebone black via "Gate One" and I keep getting this: Sep 23 08:01:57 ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host Sep 23 08:03:09 I am entering "localhost", port 22, user: root Sep 23 08:30:47 Hi!, i wanna Include GStreamer 1.0 in the Build image i made. any advice on how to go about? I can modify the Recepie directly in Angstrom-Images need to add some stuff etc? Sep 23 08:37:11 Adam___: you'd need to set up the build environment and build it on some host machine if gstreamer 1.0 is not in the repositories Sep 23 08:39:47 morning all Sep 23 08:41:52 gm Sep 23 08:42:12 Adam___: build stock angstrom for a start Sep 23 08:42:21 then you have all the toolchain and libs Sep 23 08:42:30 then look at the gst recipes and adapt them for 1.0 Sep 23 08:42:41 deal with all the breakage and other fallout Sep 23 09:55:34 hi Sep 23 11:15:52 a wonderfull, JIHAD! Sep 23 11:17:41 Hi all, I would like to know how to port linux kernel on to beagleboard xm REV-C. I am new to this and would like to learn and implement the same from scratch. Like how to build patches for particular board and how to get cross compilers etc. Thank you in advance for any information Sep 23 11:18:07 its already ported Sep 23 11:19:04 Yes, I know its already ported and myself have ported ubuntu using some scripts Sep 23 11:19:18 but I want to do it from scratch Sep 23 11:19:36 helloo...I connected max7318 Ic as slave to my BBB using external pull-up resistors....But when i type i2cdetect -y -r 0 / i2cdetect -y -r 1...its not detecting any device.... Sep 23 11:19:46 you did not port ubuntu Sep 23 11:19:49 you installed it Sep 23 11:20:22 I'm sorry yes I installed it and its working fine Sep 23 11:21:32 any suggestion.....??? Sep 23 11:22:00 no...!!! Sep 23 11:22:28 av500...what may be the problem...?? Sep 23 11:22:42 yuyu: the problem is that you have not read the data sheet Sep 23 11:22:54 yuyu: not all i2c devices can be detected Sep 23 11:23:00 Please any info regarding porting Sep 23 11:23:07 i have read it..yuyu Sep 23 11:23:21 nash__: if you want to port the linux kernel, then you need to learn linux very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very well Sep 23 11:23:24 nash__: do you understand what "porting" means? Sep 23 11:23:46 av500: he knows what _he_ means with porting Sep 23 11:23:56 koth..then how can i know whether my device is working or not...?? Sep 23 11:23:57 that is not what I asked Sep 23 11:24:38 yuyu: connect a logic analyzer and see what is going over the wire Sep 23 11:24:50 yuyu: or use an osciloscope Sep 23 11:27:10 porting is something means making the operating system work on unfamiliar hardware Sep 23 11:27:15 ...on oscilloscope i am not able to find anything....So i connected a slave and tried with 'i2cdetect' command....but in the response it is not showing any device... Sep 23 11:27:18 Thats what i think Sep 23 11:27:40 apology if im wrong Sep 23 11:27:46 yuyu: "not detect anything" means you dont see any signal? Sep 23 11:28:13 t@beaglebone:~# i2cdetect -y -r 0 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 a b c d e f 00: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 10: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 20: -- -- -- -- UU -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 30: -- -- -- -- UU -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 40: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 50: UU -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 60: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- - Sep 23 11:28:17 nash__: in theory you are right, but i think you do not understand what it actually means Sep 23 11:28:20 nash__: yes Sep 23 11:28:22 yuyu: use pastebin Sep 23 11:28:27 this is the response am getting.... Sep 23 11:28:48 nash__: and as I said, it has been ported already Sep 23 11:29:03 only 'UU' IS there... Sep 23 11:29:04 as for cross compiler, google it Sep 23 11:29:19 and what does that mean? Sep 23 11:33:47 I really very week with all these concepts... please help me learn Sep 23 11:34:40 nash__: read the book "Building embedded linux systems" by Karim Yaghmour. Come back afterwars. Sep 23 11:34:46 afterwards, even. Sep 23 11:34:58 KotH: you on the other hand may come back after wars. Sep 23 11:36:27 Thank you LetoThe2nd Sep 23 11:51:57 nash__: go and play around with Linux for some time Sep 23 11:51:59 build a kernel Sep 23 11:52:05 etc Sep 23 11:52:11 get yourself familiar Sep 23 11:52:16 LetoThe2nd: the war is nearly over Sep 23 11:52:24 then you will be able to answer many questions yourself Sep 23 11:52:24 LetoThe2nd: i have to give my military equipment back Sep 23 11:52:58 Morning everyone. Just got my first beaglebone at maker faire for a project. Thought it was well suited. Sep 23 11:53:11 greetings KyleYankan Sep 23 11:53:16 and welcome to the beagle family Sep 23 11:53:44 Heh. I'm researching more specifics now to find out more about it, specifically the GPIO Sep 23 11:54:44 gpio is easy Sep 23 11:55:18 KyleYankan: have fun. just remember one thing: whenever someone tells you to poke /dev/kmem, he/she is certainly wrong :) Sep 23 11:55:43 Just curious, early morning googling here is non-productive (first cup of coffee is still being prepeared) but can it do things like i2c, uart, etc via GPIO? Is it certain pins like the Atmel controllers? Sep 23 11:55:53 LetoThe2nd: Can I `touch` it instead? :-P Sep 23 11:57:04 KyleYankan: GPIO pins have other functions yes. Sep 23 11:57:10 KyleYankan: you can do i2c and spi with hardware support (recommended) or on gpio (aka bitbanging, not recommended) Sep 23 11:57:20 KyleYankan: for more information read the TRM Sep 23 11:57:25 but unlike arduino, most other functions are behind kernel drivers Sep 23 11:57:44 so you do not e.g. write to the I2C registers directly Sep 23 11:57:48 you used the I2C driver Sep 23 11:57:55 I see, I see. Sep 23 11:57:57 same for UART, SPI etc... Sep 23 11:58:16 I'm looking for the TRM now. Sep 23 11:58:59 Sounds like an excellent platform. Kind of a great mix between the RPi/Arduino, yet somehow more powerful than both. Sep 23 12:01:46 KyleYankan: and you have the PRU too :) Sep 23 12:02:21 I had a few questions about the USB on the beagleboards (specifically the beaglebone black). Does anyone know how many endpoints are supported as a client (and can they be bidirectional)? Sep 23 12:02:45 palesius: that's written in the TRM as well Sep 23 12:03:05 Also can the client/host usb ports simulate a physical disconect (so enumeration is redone) Sep 23 12:03:11 KotH: PRU? Sep 23 12:04:10 KyleYankan: something like a uC on your system, with which you can set GPIOs cycle exact with up to 200MHz Sep 23 12:04:18 duh thanks, sorry just found it Sep 23 12:04:23 np Sep 23 12:04:50 palesius: http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/196 Sep 23 12:05:05 Ah, sweet computah of missoula. Sep 23 12:05:43 KyleYankan: if you want to know more about the PRU, read the revision c of the TRM (it's floating around on the intarwebz) Sep 23 12:06:31 i'm on elinux.org's article on it - http://elinux.org/ECE497_BeagleBone_PRU Sep 23 12:07:23 I mean, I know I'm new to this, but I kind of feel like a fool buying a RPi. I like their educational goals and all, and am glad to support them, but for projects? this seems like the better solution Sep 23 12:08:03 ...is there any otherway to check i2c...??? Sep 23 12:08:41 KyleYankan: there are rumors that the rpi was meant to sell of the old stock of chips and the "educational" part is just a cover for it Sep 23 12:08:58 yuyu: beside using a logic analyzer or an oscilloscope? Sep 23 12:09:30 yuyu: well, that's like asking whether there is a way to check whether you have power other than measuring the voltage Sep 23 12:09:46 yuyu: yes, there are, but they are not reliable Sep 23 12:10:07 after connecting oscilloscope...can i check with command 'i2cdetect -y -r 0'... Sep 23 12:10:08 KotH: I'm sure there's lot sof rumors. I've met with a fe wof the Rpi guys. I don't know how true that is asmuch as it is about sticking to the entirely open source model Sep 23 12:10:30 to check whether it is providing clock or not Sep 23 12:10:38 KyleYankan: do they finally have all kernel stuff opensource? Sep 23 12:10:41 But for guys like me, who love me some open source but are on a budget/need to get projects done... some closed source stuff is acceptable, like the ARM istructions. Sep 23 12:10:58 KyleYankan: arm instructions? Sep 23 12:11:02 KotH: Not sur eif it's 100%, but I was told it's dang close. I'm not a kernel guy. Just get me running perl or python on it and I'm good. Sep 23 12:11:19 err, you just lost us here Sep 23 12:11:30 KotH: The instruction set? https://www.scss.tcd.ie/john.waldron/3d1/QRC0001H_rvct_v2.1_arm.pdf Sep 23 12:11:42 KyleYankan: that's not closed source Sep 23 12:12:04 Oh. I thought it was relatively undocument/closed source for most newer processors in the ARM family. Sep 23 12:12:12 KyleYankan: unless you mean that arm doesn't like anyone building a cpu that does implement the arm ISA Sep 23 12:12:14 Maybe I just need more coffee. My mistake. Sep 23 12:12:20 KyleYankan: google for "ARM ARM" Sep 23 12:12:58 KyleYankan: arm is not stupid enough to think that closing the cpu specs would give them any advantage Sep 23 12:13:36 KotH, don't assume anything about the stupidity of huge corporations Sep 23 12:13:41 *cough*secure worlds*cough* Sep 23 12:13:42 Ah, I gotcha. Makes sense. So what are they still keeping closed source? Sep 23 12:14:22 panto: i dont assume anything either. it's just that arm proved to have some minimal inteligence....until now Sep 23 12:14:39 KyleYankan: the actual VHDL source is closed Sep 23 12:14:54 KyleYankan: but people writing OSS have never cared about building their own hardware Sep 23 12:15:13 KyleYankan: it was always these freaks of electrical engineers who were obsessed with building things you can touch Sep 23 12:15:50 Oh, I see. I was pretty far off the mark there. This kind of stuff is much deeper than my interest/skill-level lie, TBH. Sep 23 12:16:31 lunch Sep 23 12:16:36 dont worry, you'll absorb most of that knowledge by osmosis, if you stick to us for long enough Sep 23 12:16:40 panto: en guete! Sep 23 12:43:13 hey good morning Sep 23 13:11:05 https://wiki.openjdk.java.net/display/OpenJFX/DukePad Sep 23 13:11:06 java all the thinks Sep 23 13:15:49 * KotH converts av500 to java Sep 23 13:28:38 Hi, I need a little help with capemgr. I wrote my simple I2C driver, inserted it into a kernel, but don't know how to call probe method. Sep 23 13:29:07 Previously, there should be written platform_data for the i2c subsystem Sep 23 13:29:52 but now, I don't know what and where put this data into dts files. Sep 23 13:36:59 I suspect, there is no change needed in the kernel side, so dev_get_platdata should work just fine Sep 23 13:44:37 robert-km, there are no platform data anymore Sep 23 13:44:42 gone Sep 23 13:44:44 *poof* Sep 23 13:45:16 panto: not pööf? Sep 23 13:45:30 pfft means something different Sep 23 13:45:58 pøøf Sep 23 13:46:13 \o/ mru Sep 23 13:48:44 So how to describe register address? Sep 23 13:49:08 http://elinux.org/BeagleBone_and_the_3.8_Kernel Sep 23 13:50:04 if my driver is called atmega on address 0x09, should I write atmega@09 {compatible="atmega; reg=<0x09>; } in i2c dts file? Sep 23 13:51:31 depends on the DT binding Sep 23 13:51:56 pôôf Sep 23 13:52:05 look in Documentation/devicetree/bindings/ for the bindings of the device Sep 23 13:52:27 I feel like I've missed some joke in #beagle Sep 23 13:52:59 panto: #beagle is the joke Sep 23 13:53:02 ah whµ? Sep 23 13:53:24 panto: it's all about more dots. more dots -> more evil. Sep 23 13:53:34 ....... Sep 23 13:53:47 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_metal_umlaut Sep 23 13:53:48 ……… Sep 23 13:55:01 LetoThe2nd: you rang? Sep 23 13:55:08 \o/ Sep 23 13:55:28 \m/ Sep 23 13:55:34 dm8tbr: you got a trigger on "more evil"? Sep 23 13:55:49 no on Sep 23 13:55:54 mu Sep 23 13:56:05 dont ask... Sep 23 13:56:14 hrhrhr Sep 23 13:56:36 it's fun tho Sep 23 14:03:16 dm8tbr: why? Sep 23 14:10:17 KotH: μ Sep 23 14:11:26 mru, ?? Sep 23 14:11:31 Hello People Sep 23 14:14:18 KotH: because I can! Sep 23 14:18:30 dm8tbr: yappari! Sep 23 14:18:59 yipiekayay! Sep 23 14:19:30 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFKzsM4gJnc Sep 23 14:30:28 dm8tbr: yipieyayeh schweinebacke? Sep 23 14:30:45 that one Sep 23 14:32:08 KotH: exactly. Sep 23 14:55:26 * m_billybob drags himself in out of the forrest Sep 23 14:55:33 morning . . . Sep 23 14:56:15 does beaglebone black need external oscillator to support audio over hdmi Sep 23 14:56:21 or is it already assembled? Sep 23 14:56:46 LordDVG not 100% positive but mostly sure its an out of the box experience Sep 23 14:57:25 does that mean that I need to buy oscillator? Sep 23 14:57:45 ive had abbb for around abouts 3-4 months, but never actually *used* hdmi Sep 23 14:57:56 that means i think no, you do not need to buy one Sep 23 14:58:21 OK, thank you m_billybob Sep 23 14:59:08 no problem Sep 23 15:24:42 hi there, i have recurring dns lookup issues Sep 23 15:24:48 i wonder if someone can help me? Sep 23 15:25:14 when i first reboot, i can find servers by name fine Sep 23 15:25:23 but shortly afterwards name lookups fail Sep 23 15:25:28 i can still ping by ip Sep 23 15:25:30 ??? Sep 23 15:26:09 resolve.conf has only one entry for nameserver and it is 127.0.0.1 Sep 23 15:26:24 how is that even a valid dns? Sep 23 15:27:06 a reboot usually sorts its name lookups but only temporarily Sep 23 15:31:44 of course it's a valid dns server address Sep 23 15:31:53 it's localhost, the machine itself Sep 23 15:32:04 just make sure your dns resolver on the machine is working properly Sep 23 15:33:06 koenkooi: hi, you worked on cape support, do I see it right, that at the moment no run-time DT patching is available in the kernel mainline? Sep 23 15:34:49 well i guess the resolver fails after a short time. Sep 23 15:35:13 can i tell it to use an internet DNS instead? Sep 23 15:35:32 or how do i fix the resolver Sep 23 15:35:43 i have the same problem on white and black beaglebones Sep 23 15:36:04 lyakh: koen is AWOL and will not answer any requests until further notice Sep 23 15:36:17 octopus_, add "8.8.8.8" and "8.8.3.3" to your resolve.conf Sep 23 15:36:23 lol Sep 23 15:36:26 KotH: ok, thanks Sep 23 15:36:28 8.8.4.4 Sep 23 15:36:28 octopus_: i dont know whether you can do it, but it's generally possible Sep 23 15:36:32 not 3.3 Sep 23 15:36:35 yes, ive tried that, but when i reboot conn manager rewrites the file Sep 23 15:36:47 disable dhcp Sep 23 15:36:51 o wait Sep 23 15:36:53 i know Sep 23 15:37:10 /etc/dhcp/dhcp_client.conf or something like that Sep 23 15:37:24 you need to appedn dns in there Sep 23 15:38:20 dhcp is the culprit for changing the resolve.conf Sep 23 15:38:27 hmmmmm, no dhcp folder under etc Sep 23 15:38:37 it may be called something else Sep 23 15:38:37 and a search for dhcp found nothing Sep 23 15:38:51 angstrom? Sep 23 15:39:15 it is angstrom yes Sep 23 15:41:09 type "whereis dhcp" Sep 23 15:41:17 does that say anything Sep 23 15:41:54 it says "dhcp: " Sep 23 15:43:31 yea Sep 23 15:43:54 i know its the dhcp client doing that.. i remember i had same problem... Sep 23 15:44:13 i no longer use angstrom... Sep 23 15:44:22 b/c of stuff like that Sep 23 15:45:56 makes sense Sep 23 15:52:01 * m_billybob needs some good turkish coffee right about now Sep 23 16:01:25 +1 Sep 23 16:01:35 lol Sep 23 16:02:09 more like +1 for every problem i had :P so like +30 Sep 23 16:02:56 anyways i found a dhcp client file example.... Sep 23 16:03:00 http://nesl.ee.ucla.edu/fw/han/old_machine_backup/overo-oe/tmp/work/armv7a-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/dhcp-3.1.2p1-r11.0/dhclient.conf Sep 23 16:04:32 prepend domain-name-servers DNSIP; is where you add your custom dns Sep 23 16:08:03 .... also another trick is to install bind9. and tell bind9 to fwd incoming dns quieries to google pub dns ips Sep 23 16:12:05 im so ready to get my enc28j60 in the mail Sep 23 16:13:48 okay thanks @bmatusiak Sep 23 16:13:53 i also found this http://www.gigamegablog.com/2012/02/06/beaglebone-linux-101-assigning-a-static-ip-address-with-connman/ Sep 23 16:14:03 that tells how to configure connman Sep 23 16:15:09 but it fails with a stack trace :( Sep 23 16:16:25 octopus_, here another link that can help Sep 23 16:16:25 http://www.gigamegablog.com/2012/01/29/beaglebone-linux-101-configuring-angstrom-linux/ Sep 23 16:16:33 might try the bind solution Sep 23 16:17:18 yeah i saw that one too and there is no /etc/network folder :/ Sep 23 16:17:19 sheesh Sep 23 16:17:25 lol Sep 23 16:17:49 why not try a ubuntu image? Sep 23 16:18:02 yeah thats a possibility too Sep 23 16:18:26 theres more support for ubuntu then angstrom.... Sep 23 16:18:42 make me wonder why is angstrom pre-installed on beaglebones Sep 23 16:19:57 it should come blank emmc and with a micro sd card like the BBW Sep 23 16:20:06 so the user can choose what distro to use Sep 23 16:20:09 bmatusiak_: certainly not. Sep 23 16:20:42 LetoThe2nd, what part? Sep 23 16:20:54 bmatusiak_: we've seen where that leads on the panda, and its waaaaaaay worse than an angstrom preintalled emmc Sep 23 16:21:18 lol Sep 23 16:21:24 well ive done quite a bit with this angstrom distrib Sep 23 16:21:32 bmatusiak_: just because most users are too stupid... erm lame... erm... little caring about getting their stuff set up correctly. Sep 23 16:21:35 anyone who knows where to find the beagleboard black enclosure dimensions? Sep 23 16:21:36 just probs with dns Sep 23 16:22:14 bmatusiak_: also, there ubuntu was the distro chosen for official support, and it did not work out too well. Sep 23 16:22:54 nash, idk if this helps http://www.logicsupply.com/products/bb100 Sep 23 16:23:16 you dont need a box to be cool Sep 23 16:23:32 i need a box to keep my cat out of my wires Sep 23 16:23:42 and my beer out of the bb Sep 23 16:23:45 bmatusiak_: so, from about 3 years of continuous support for the ti community board, i can guarantee you that preinstalled angstrom is the thing that absolutely works best so far. Sep 23 16:23:49 lol nash Sep 23 16:24:31 LetoThe2nd, i get where you are coming from.. Sep 23 16:24:53 nash, that help? Sep 23 16:28:42 pin P9_9 PWR_BUT... is that a + or a - Sep 23 16:30:54 need 3d pdf adobe viewer bmatusiak_ xD Sep 23 16:31:07 lol Sep 23 16:31:25 "2.4" x 0.82" x 3.54" ^_^ Sep 23 16:34:11 i like the lgx bb box because of the telescoping lid Sep 23 16:34:37 that was not what i meant :P Sep 23 16:34:47 need the dimensions of the connectors etc Sep 23 16:34:56 holes blablal Sep 23 16:34:56 :P Sep 23 16:37:53 dont feel like breaking out the Micrometer Sep 23 16:37:57 ^_^ Sep 23 16:39:33 ok good look, gimmi the url when you're done ;x Sep 23 16:39:40 luck even ;/ Sep 23 16:41:20 nash, BBB_SRM.pdf page 112 Sep 23 16:45:09 i wish the emmc was 4gb Sep 23 16:46:08 Abracadabra Sep 23 16:46:14 Just change the chip out. Sep 23 16:47:11 lol then it wouldnt be a offical beaglebone Sep 23 16:47:43 it it would leave me out of the support loop Sep 23 16:48:47 Only if you have issues with the eMMC. Sep 23 16:49:35 with my luck.... that would happen Sep 23 16:50:27 :D Sep 23 16:50:41 Just change your luck module out. Sep 23 16:50:49 haha Sep 23 16:51:01 my Luck-Cape Sep 23 16:51:51 i just got ordered one from adafruit... (luck-cape/module) Sep 23 16:52:17 next thing i know. im going to get struck by lightning Sep 23 17:01:54 pin P9_9 PWR_BUT = 5v+ Sep 23 17:12:27 Hello. I've compiled a replacement V4L kernel module on my Beaglebone Black. When I try to load the module I'm getting "ERROR: could not insert 'tm6000': Exec format error". I've checked the file format and it's the same as the original module. Any ideas? :/ Sep 23 17:34:44 hello Sep 23 17:35:29 i want to select a hardware platform in order to use android Sep 23 17:37:37 I should use diferent peripherals like: lcd 4.3 + touch(capacitive), some usb peripherals with linux support drivers and wifi/gsm communications modules Sep 23 17:39:10 could you confirm that beagle bone hardware platform it's a good selection? Sep 23 17:39:16 thank you Sep 23 17:51:19 german, the beaglebone black is an excellent platform, although I do not know if anyone could answer your questions except for you. ~$45 . . . really isnt much for a test though. Also I do not know about the 4.3" LCD but chipsee seems to be doing fairly well with their 7" LCD. I have no personal hands on with it, but have seen some videos on youtube Sep 23 17:52:13 german : you described *any* android system with an lcd interface and a usb host Sep 23 17:52:40 german : the hardware you buy doesn't really matter - if you do not already know the software environment you will spend many months if not years learning about it Sep 23 17:52:59 i can atest to that Sep 23 17:53:02 german : and by the time you have a good understanding of the software, whatever hardware you started out with has gone obsolete Sep 23 17:53:36 ^^^ and in that context personally i think the BBB would be a great place to start Sep 23 17:53:58 I mean really $45 . . . thats a darned good price Sep 23 17:59:12 thanks m_billybob and CareBear Sep 23 18:23:17 hello, I have a problem. I accidentally erase the memory of the beaglebone, the /media/BEAGLEBONE Sep 23 18:23:44 and reboot the board. Sep 23 18:24:09 and I can't connect with him, by 192.168.7.2 and in my pc said me that is unknow device Sep 23 18:24:21 reflash it Sep 23 18:24:33 yep reflash the BBB Sep 23 18:24:46 http://circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=Updating_The_Software Sep 23 18:28:39 ok, thanks Sep 23 18:28:49 i will try Sep 23 18:34:28 Has anybody got hostapd to work on the BBB with the Edimax EW7811 adapter? Sep 23 18:37:18 daniel_ohh: have you checked whether the linux driver of said wifi adapter supports ap mode? Sep 23 18:37:52 daniel_ohh: not all hardware supports ap mode, and of those who support it, not all drivers have the functionality Sep 23 19:40:20 Does the beagle have as much flash corruption problems as the raspberry pi? Sep 23 19:41:19 i thought most flash corruption was user caused Sep 23 19:41:48 hitoribocchi: the kernel flash corruption problem on pi? i know that shit and it`s freaking bad Sep 23 19:42:09 the BBB works like charm 3 months with the same sw on it Sep 23 19:43:06 what flash? Sep 23 19:43:17 do you mean sd card? Sep 23 19:45:23 sorry phone Sep 23 19:45:25 sec Sep 23 19:46:57 yeah well, it's just that it's the second time my SD image is ruined due to me powering off the raspberry pi Sep 23 19:47:21 The beagle has what, 2GB onboard flash and a nano sd card slot? Sep 23 19:47:39 Would it be equally suseptible to such corruption by powering it off? Sep 23 19:47:59 susceptible* Sep 23 19:48:27 yes it's BAD, vvu|Log Sep 23 19:48:31 thanks for confirming Sep 23 19:48:41 second time in 3 days Sep 23 19:49:03 But I did short out the 5V a couple of times... BUT STILL Sep 23 19:59:13 is it possible that my usb wifi adapter is causing a kernel panic on the beaglebone? Sep 23 20:00:11 here's what's going on after a little while when booting with the adapter installed: http://pastie.org/8349744 Sep 23 20:02:29 oh, it may be because I'm only powering the bb over usb? Sep 23 20:02:44 isaacbw: depending on how you're powering everything, yes Sep 23 20:03:31 I'm powering it from my desktop's usb port Sep 23 20:03:37 so that's probably what's going on Sep 23 20:04:40 yeah, most likely Sep 23 20:40:44 <_SY_> hello Sep 23 21:52:04 hello Sep 23 21:52:43 sry to bother but I just got a BBB and installed ubuntu on it. However I can't find anywhere in the web the login password Sep 23 21:53:03 So far I found out the user is ubuntu but what is the pw Sep 23 21:53:17 anyone? thanks in advance Sep 23 21:55:51 try temppwd Sep 23 21:56:53 that's it! cheers mate Sep 23 22:42:30 i am off - thx for help @daniel_ohh .. bye bye Sep 23 23:56:29 Any suggestions on a USB WiFi dongle that will play nice with hostapd? I have the Edimax ew7811 dongle working with WiFi (RTL8192CU chipset) but can't get hostapd to work. Sep 23 23:57:15 I read that Atheros chipsets work better but I don't have a huge budget for trail and error buying different adapters. Sep 24 00:02:28 hmmmm the charger on the BBB is pretty PnP **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Sep 24 02:59:59 2013