**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Sep 30 02:59:58 2013 Sep 30 03:30:23 Hello all, How to enable rtmpsink in Gstreamer on BB xm! I have searched GG 3 days, but no suggestion! Thanks! Sep 30 03:31:50 and my BB xm is running Angstrom! Sep 30 04:17:04 hello #beagle! What is the proper way to connect the 4-pin TTL cable to the 6-pins on the board Sep 30 06:08:04 Hi I am trying to boot my BBB from microSD card. I basically hold down the BOOT button (that’s the one button on the other side of the board, see image) and hit RESET. But it seems the board just goes into re-flash procedure. I also tried to modified uEnv file which also doesn't work. Could someone point me to the right direction to do that? Thanks Sep 30 06:22:15 Hi Guys! Good Morning, i am building GStreamer for the Beagleboneblack, i got the setup scripts from "git://github.com/Angstrom-distribution/setup-scripts.git" now i see the GStreamer1.0 Libraries are missing from here, i also downloaded the Openembedded Standalone package from "git://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core" and imported the recepeis of gstreamer1.0 from the gstreamer folder under meta/recepies-multimedia/gstream Sep 30 06:22:58 i can build GStreamer1.0.ipk, gstreamer-plugins-good.ipk but after installing them the plugins are not getting installed, i mean in gst-inspect-1.0 the plugins are not showing Sep 30 06:24:39 even after adding the PACKAGECONFIG_append_pn-gstreamer1.0-plugins-good = "v4l vpx wavpack" no luck :/ Sep 30 06:26:26 Am I Doing something wrong? Sep 30 06:53:59 SillyKnight: I think there are two main types of images for BBB sdcard, a regular system one and an eMMC flasher one. It sounds like the you have the flasher one, correct? Sep 30 06:54:42 Hi crunchex, thanks Sep 30 06:54:49 I guess yes Sep 30 06:55:19 I don't think that one is meant to boot up a system, but correct me if I'm wrong Sep 30 06:55:33 You probably want to create a regular system image Sep 30 06:56:09 I am checking it right now Sep 30 06:57:04 Yeah, I used flasher Sep 30 06:57:18 Okay, try a regular one then Sep 30 06:57:26 Sure, thanks a lot! Sep 30 06:57:31 No prob Sep 30 06:58:30 But the operating procedure I discribed above. Holding boot button before reset, then release after reset should be applicapble I guess once I use regular image. Sep 30 07:00:10 Not sure, but I seem to remember it behaving like a toggle between eMMC and microSD Sep 30 07:00:32 But I was just pressing buttons until it worked... probably should have noted it down Sep 30 07:01:45 nobody working on gstreamer1.0 ? sigh :/ Sep 30 07:04:33 SillyKnight: I think you're right. SRM p.58 is backing you up. Sep 30 07:05:19 Sorry for stupid question what SRM stands for? Sep 30 07:05:59 System Reference Manual Sep 30 07:06:27 Thanks! Sep 30 07:06:40 TFM Sep 30 07:13:54 Cmon! someone ? nobody build gstreamer1.0 for angstrom :O Sep 30 07:18:57 Suresh-RM: maybe, that instead of acting as an it would be better to try another support source (hint: there's mailing list/google group) Sep 30 07:27:01 ahoi Sep 30 07:31:49 m°urning Sep 30 07:37:42 I have a question about the BBB. I am used to the Arduino with the I/O but I never see anything mentioned about how to write software for the BB or its I/O. Where can I find this info at? Sep 30 07:38:51 DarkAlchemist: there's a boatload of examples on IO using bonescript. Sep 30 07:39:13 DarkAlchemist: like, http://circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=BoneScript Sep 30 07:39:16 I don't even know what that is and I have yet to own a BB so just trying to find info Sep 30 07:40:11 Oh, so BB can emulate the Arduino using that library (well, the software side that is)? Sep 30 07:40:13 DarkAlchemist: alone googling "beaglebone IO examples" gives me lots of ideas Sep 30 07:40:25 http://beagleboard.org/Support/BoneScript Sep 30 07:41:20 Ahhh, yes, now I remember why I never touched the BB and that is it went the java route and I said no to java years ago. Thank you for the info. Sep 30 07:41:39 who went the java route? Sep 30 07:41:52 Javascript I meant Sep 30 07:42:01 you can do C if you please Sep 30 07:42:01 *sigh* Sep 30 07:42:06 *shrug* Sep 30 07:42:37 DarkAlchemist: the javascript interface is for people who want the online-no compilation-super easy interface. just like you, who obviously did not even google. Sep 30 07:42:40 well, if it runs Linux I can program C++ and C in Linux so I should be able to on BB, right? Sep 30 07:43:21 DarkAlchemist: in the end, the .js library just boils down to file interaction - which you can do in any language you desire Sep 30 07:44:39 Yeah, been a few years since I touched Linux but most everything I wanted to touch was in the /dev directory so I will have to relearn but writing for the Arduino is so easy. Hmmm. Sep 30 07:45:33 embedded barbie says: "Learning a new platform is hard! Let's go shopping!" Sep 30 07:45:42 I will seek out some tutorials on Youtube and watch them. How many digital and analog i/o does BBB have? Sep 30 07:46:07 DarkAlchemist: here's ideas for using stuff in C; https://github.com/jackmitch/libsoc Sep 30 07:46:07 the SRM for the board should have a good overview of those Sep 30 07:46:52 * LetoThe2nd does not feel like googling the number. Sep 30 07:48:53 getting told to google myself is hard, let go just anyplace else. Sep 30 09:21:08 I have problems with shutdown command from serial terminal. Whenever I use it my uSD card image stops working. Does anybody knows solution. Sep 30 09:23:16 shutdown kind of implies that it stops working Sep 30 09:23:36 No. Next time it wont boot. Sep 30 09:23:48 what does it do instead? Sep 30 09:23:58 as in boot log pls Sep 30 09:24:15 On next boot it just freezes Sep 30 09:24:38 3rd LED is on forever Sep 30 09:24:50 boot log? Sep 30 09:24:57 since you have serial Sep 30 09:25:31 I don't have it right now Sep 30 09:26:29 little we can do then Sep 30 09:27:06 ok I'll get it and come back Sep 30 09:27:19 thought anyone knew the problem Sep 30 10:23:12 anyone here? Sep 30 10:23:22 what is pvrsrvkm, and why does it taint my kernel? Sep 30 10:25:47 from where to get appropriate cross compiler for BBB(angstrom linux)......my PC is running with 32 bit processor and kernel(ubuntu 11.04)....How to select the appropriate one........?? Sep 30 10:33:08 hello every one. is there anybody can help me on Beagleboard videowall app please ? Sep 30 10:33:39 asd_: armv7, and 32bit. (obviously) Sep 30 10:34:29 any link for me to get more familar with please/ Sep 30 10:35:47 saeed: google says it is basically ffmpeg with netsync turned on. so read up on that. Sep 30 10:36:49 thank you Leto The2nd Sep 30 10:37:11 ..Thanks for replying....But i am confused...would running 'sudo apt-get install gcc-arm-linux-gnueabi' do it properly...???? Sep 30 10:38:02 asd_: that gives you a generic toolchain, and not one for the angstrom - basically the same, but will be hard if you use libraries. Sep 30 10:38:29 asd_: google one time: "angstom toolchain" Sep 30 10:38:39 asd_: find: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/toolchains/ Sep 30 10:39:10 asd_: and while you're at it, get a new keyboard. yours is producing a lot of "." Sep 30 10:43:56 Extremely sorry for ' ... ',i have downloaded 'angstrom-2011.03-i686-linux-armv7a-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2 ' from the angstrom site.And compiled my hello world program and it gave me the output.But for some program it is giving error that 'cannot execute binary file'.Is it the problem of cross compiler i Downloaded?? Sep 30 10:46:43 asd_: *sigh* Sep 30 10:46:58 asd_: think about scrolling down on that page. there is some text to read, you know? Sep 30 10:47:50 asd_: hint: the "using" section tells you pretty much about how to use what you have just downloaded. Sep 30 11:26:02 ..I read it...but its for 'Creating and Using a Qt Embedded SDK' Sep 30 11:27:06 asd_: so use your intellect and aplly it to your situation. YOU CAN DO IT! Sep 30 11:27:55 I can do it Sep 30 11:28:41 please help me on it.I new to linux.I will not bug you anymore. Sep 30 11:29:51 asd_: well if transferring what you read is too hard, just use the documented qt toolchain. Sep 30 12:14:01 koen: ping Sep 30 12:15:09 is it compulsory to add cflags while compiling programs for BBB? Sep 30 12:15:39 qazw: depends. Sep 30 12:16:08 is there any problem of we donot add? Sep 30 12:16:19 qazw: still depends. Sep 30 12:18:52 I do not get the question Sep 30 12:19:48 i guess the asker meant "please tell the CFLAGS i have to set to compile XXX for my BBB" Sep 30 12:19:57 but as i said repeatedly - it depends ;) Sep 30 12:21:19 LetoThe2nd are you sure? Sep 30 12:21:36 woglinde: not really, i guess it depends if i'm sure. Sep 30 12:40:46 HI Sep 30 12:40:55 How do I purchase a board? Sep 30 12:41:03 in store? Sep 30 12:41:08 with money? Sep 30 12:41:14 lol Sep 30 12:41:22 :> Sep 30 12:59:03 so... I want to build an OS image for a beagleboard... ubuntu/linaro-based, intended to run always-on, and with things like performance counters enabled Sep 30 13:00:00 honestly and? Sep 30 13:00:22 doit ! Sep 30 13:00:53 where do I find resources for that, like which modules I need for the performance counters? Sep 30 13:00:59 currently skimming through elinux.org... Sep 30 13:07:07 hey... does anyone know how to get the i2c2 appear on beaglebone? Sep 30 13:07:59 from googling it apparently it was a problem with the device tree for the kernel that came with it, but after downloading the last img I still don't get the device on /dev Sep 30 13:08:07 I only have i2c-0 and i2c-1 Sep 30 13:08:53 this is for both BB and BBB Sep 30 13:14:36 demarchi: i2c-1 is actually i2c2 on the schematic afaik Sep 30 13:19:42 Vaizki: from what i read yesterday it should be i2c-3 Sep 30 13:20:09 Vaizki: but indeed i should have tried running i2cdetect in it Sep 30 13:23:59 can anyone give me a hint how to make BBB Angstrom load rootfs via NFS? Sep 30 13:24:49 anyone know which keys etc. I need to delete after setting up the distro the way I way I want it in order to make it a "new" os when I copy the image and boot it? Sep 30 13:25:01 * honestly needs to provision 10 beagle boards Sep 30 13:34:14 Anguel no bbb specific question Sep 30 13:46:51 I just wrote the 12.10 image from http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#Quantal_12.10_armhf Sep 30 13:47:05 it doesn't appear to boot :/ Sep 30 13:47:24 I used the --dtb option Sep 30 13:47:29 use armhf.com Sep 30 13:48:11 I don't have a beaglebone Sep 30 13:48:14 I have a BB xM Sep 30 13:55:11 hm right sorry Sep 30 13:55:19 but you could use the minimal image Sep 30 13:56:36 apparently the dtb wasn't what I wanted Sep 30 14:01:28 hmm... usb network is there, but can't ping it Sep 30 14:03:37 serial console for the win Sep 30 14:04:41 that's so 1997 : Sep 30 14:04:48 :| Sep 30 14:08:41 o.O Sep 30 14:08:57 serial console resuce you in most cases Sep 30 14:09:46 115200 8N1 Sep 30 14:10:07 is that the right protocol setting? Sep 30 14:10:24 not getting anything in minicom... Sep 30 14:13:01 maybe this serial cable is fucked Sep 30 14:13:22 cheapo usb thing that may or may not have the right ttl Sep 30 14:14:44 hm for xm you do not need the rigt ttl Sep 30 14:14:58 onyl the expansion-header Sep 30 14:15:27 oh. I plugged the serial cable into the UART. Sep 30 14:15:44 i-have-no-idea-what-im-doing-dog.jpg Sep 30 14:19:09 Hi all Sep 30 14:19:33 oh. of course. Sep 30 14:19:33 the bb gives itself 192.168.7.2, not .7.1 Sep 30 15:09:25 "To enable autostart of the server, you need to be a Linux expert, because all Linux flavours differ" Sep 30 15:09:31 good to know Sep 30 15:14:06 my favourite linux flavour is forrest berry and cherry Sep 30 15:15:32 hmm... Sep 30 15:15:39 that would go very well with chocolate Sep 30 15:15:58 see, that's what I thought too Sep 30 15:57:48 unF Sep 30 16:10:27 Is there a way I can back a BeagleBoard Black behave as a USB mass storage device. I want to be able to ssh into the BB and choose a folder or disk image and present that to the host computer as a flash drive. Is this possible? Sep 30 16:10:43 make* not back... sorry Sep 30 16:10:47 <_av500__> yes Sep 30 16:10:57 <_av500__> gadget_fs Sep 30 16:10:59 <_av500__> er no Sep 30 16:11:02 <_av500__> g_storage Sep 30 16:12:04 I'm completely green with all this. Is there a tutorial or project similar to that or should I start down the Google rabbit hole with g_storage? Sep 30 16:14:42 _av500__: Thanks... I'm going down the rabbit hole and finding bits of what i need. Sep 30 16:36:16 hi anyone there? Sep 30 16:37:49 i got a problem when i recompile kernel for change boot logo , the kernel i success compiled but the boot logo not changed. Sep 30 16:37:58 anyone can help me? Sep 30 16:44:45 abama which logo? Sep 30 16:45:02 abma so you did something wrong in patching the kernel or copied the wrong file Sep 30 16:47:11 dunno how the more modern kernel handles the boot logo, but the angstrom logo in the 2.6 kernel was handled by psplash Sep 30 16:51:18 hi crofton Sep 30 16:51:27 gm Sep 30 16:52:00 seems really quiet in here lately Sep 30 16:59:12 holidays in germany Sep 30 17:00:43 more then one? Sep 30 17:02:03 yes Sep 30 17:02:06 2 weeks Sep 30 17:02:26 for school people Sep 30 17:02:28 *g* Sep 30 17:07:27 afternoon Sep 30 17:07:45 ok I have found a small issue in the bbb arm images Sep 30 17:08:05 it seems a fqdn was never set in the hosts file Sep 30 17:08:26 this breaks alot some pkgs on installl Sep 30 17:15:37 how silly is it to build a new kernel on a beagle board? Sep 30 17:16:16 not very Sep 30 17:17:03 honestly: a lot of people like to do native compile, but usual for specific reasons such as the program build environment is not properly implemented to support a cross compile environment Sep 30 17:17:23 honestly: the linux kernel is well suited to cross compiling, so there really isn't a good reason not to do so Sep 30 17:18:38 how long is the compile going to take? an hour? 4 hours? all night? Sep 30 17:19:09 honestly: depends on what options you have enabled Sep 30 17:19:16 hm, ok Sep 30 17:22:00 can anyone help me out... I am trying to intall .deb files on the BBB. I am not familiar with linux (especially angstrom) What package installer do I use? Sep 30 17:22:52 you doing a sd or the emmc ? Sep 30 17:23:02 and then we can move forward Sep 30 17:23:19 and have you flashed the proper image Sep 30 17:23:36 hi anyone there? Sep 30 17:23:47 we all left for lunch Sep 30 17:23:48 nobody but us bots Sep 30 17:24:00 1001001 SOS Sep 30 17:24:05 the office is closed for lunch Sep 30 17:24:08 lol Sep 30 17:24:23 gunk you there Sep 30 17:24:36 I asked you a question please respond promptly Sep 30 17:24:51 the help timer is counting down Sep 30 17:25:00 i have compile the kernel for beagle bone but the logo not changed Sep 30 17:25:11 can you help what is the problem? Sep 30 17:25:19 why not use the existing kernel Sep 30 17:25:26 what flavor of linux Sep 30 17:25:41 I use the precomplided Sep 30 17:25:55 i use angstrom Sep 30 17:26:06 not played with it Sep 30 17:26:09 i just replace all logo_linux_clut224.ppm file. Sep 30 17:26:18 but there are a few images on the site for it Sep 30 17:26:27 ok Sep 30 17:26:30 why Sep 30 17:26:39 you want your own logo Sep 30 17:26:46 yes. Sep 30 17:26:48 taking away from all the work they did Sep 30 17:27:04 geesh Sep 30 17:27:18 fist i find beagle bone logo named with logo_linux_clut224.ppm Sep 30 17:27:18 hello Sep 30 17:27:29 dont know what happened Sep 30 17:27:39 lost my text entry bar Sep 30 17:27:42 so i replace all the file with my logo with my logo. Sep 30 17:27:44 but Im back Sep 30 17:28:02 i have compile the kernel for beagle bone but the logo not changed Sep 30 17:28:27 i have followed the web sit:http://wiki.beyondlogic.org/index.php/BeagleBoneBlack_Building_Kernel Sep 30 17:28:29 BBB trying to install files to emmc with stock os. Any help? Sep 30 17:28:29 ok gunk 1 did you setup a sd or the emmc with debian Sep 30 17:28:42 No idea? Sep 30 17:28:49 well armstrong is on the box not debian Sep 30 17:28:51 i set up with sd card. Sep 30 17:29:00 you need to flasf debian to the emmc Sep 30 17:29:00 yes angstrom Sep 30 17:29:09 im a new2bie Sep 30 17:29:09 I am talking to gunk Sep 30 17:29:14 ok Sep 30 17:29:15 i dont use debian at all. Sep 30 17:29:24 dood I am talking to gunk Sep 30 17:29:35 ok you first Sep 30 17:29:48 gunk you need to get the emmc flashed img and write it to a sd and flash the emmc Sep 30 17:30:03 then you can load up debian pkgs Sep 30 17:30:30 can I just google to find that flashed img? Sep 30 17:30:48 can that be done thru the usb port? Sep 30 17:31:16 http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardDebian Sep 30 17:31:18 can I get a flashed ing for UBUNTU? Sep 30 17:31:43 I believe you can I dont touch ubuntu Sep 30 17:31:47 I would like to put Linux 10.04 on this device, do you have experience with that? Sep 30 17:31:51 I pref straight debian Sep 30 17:31:58 Sry UBUNTU 10.04 Sep 30 17:32:46 Well I have some software i would like to run, and they have built it for Ubuntu 10.04... should it run on straight Debiam? Sep 30 17:32:51 you would have to find the emmc flasher img and use a micro sd to flash Sep 30 17:33:44 I prefer it I think ubuntu got to picky about some things Sep 30 17:34:25 Should anything that runs in Ubuntu run in Debian also? Sorry if that sounds dumb, like I said, I am totaly new to this Sep 30 17:35:24 they both support deb pkgs Sep 30 17:35:31 you going to run a desktop Sep 30 17:36:22 http://www.armhf.com/index.php/boards/beaglebone-black/ Sep 30 17:36:22 Once again, no idea, I need to run some third party software... not sure if the desktop environment is necessary Sep 30 17:36:28 this page will help yuo Sep 30 17:36:36 it has images Sep 30 17:36:54 and instructions Sep 30 17:37:43 Thanks, that helps a lot Sep 30 17:37:50 ok Sep 30 17:37:52 I'll give it a shot Sep 30 17:37:56 ok Sep 30 17:38:09 hi Sep 30 17:38:14 time to Me? Sep 30 17:38:22 i dont compile kernels Sep 30 17:38:37 and if you replace a ppm file I am not shure if it gets red in Sep 30 17:38:48 I use only the pre compiled kernels Sep 30 17:38:57 do you have some something about change logo? Sep 30 17:39:38 Abama: which logo are you trying to replace, the angstrom one I think is handled by psplash unless that has changed Sep 30 17:39:46 i just thing beaglebone with write background logo so bad, i want change the logo. Sep 30 17:40:17 pssplsh? i search something about that. Sep 30 17:41:07 but i not success to do with it. Sep 30 17:43:27 are you using angstrom, or some other distro? Sep 30 17:43:43 angstrom Sep 30 17:43:51 with demo version Sep 30 17:44:48 and it's the angstrom logo, on a grey background that yo uwant to replace? Sep 30 17:45:10 yes Sep 30 17:45:37 with a dog. and write background not fit the black screen. Sep 30 17:45:58 i want to change with black logo Sep 30 17:46:23 is www.gnuarm.com a good source for cross-compile toolchain? Sep 30 17:46:47 i got tool chain alreadly. Sep 30 17:47:12 i don't. Sep 30 17:49:35 Abama: is it the beagle logo or the angstrom logo? Sep 30 17:49:50 beagle Sep 30 17:59:34 I am running the CrochetFreeBSD script to build FBSD for BBB. This script has already taken two hours and is still on the 'build FBSD armv6 world' step. Is this normal? Sep 30 18:03:02 depending on your system building a root FS, can take a couple hours or more..... dunno about your particular distro Sep 30 18:03:42 OK. Sep 30 18:05:21 thank you Sep 30 18:06:30 any one knows how to change boot logo for angstrom? Sep 30 18:07:45 unplug hdmi Sep 30 18:08:26 oh no i use hdmi. Sep 30 18:08:58 unplug it just for boot time Sep 30 18:09:36 logo is usually a function of the bootloader Sep 30 18:09:51 so look into ubootlogo changing via google Sep 30 18:10:01 i know theres information out there ive run into it before Sep 30 18:10:15 uboot logo changing* Sep 30 18:10:17 hmph Sep 30 18:10:22 apparently my toolchain is old Sep 30 18:10:54 can someone point me to a GNU/Linux x86(_64) -> arm cross toolchain? Sep 30 18:10:57 ok, no useful information to me. Sep 30 18:11:25 honestly, thats a bit vague Sep 30 18:11:38 you have different libc's and ABI's . .. Sep 30 18:11:46 you can start with linaro though Sep 30 18:12:24 ah Sep 30 18:12:45 honestly: http://derekmolloy.ie/beaglebone/setting-up-eclipse-on-the-beaglebone-for-c-development/ Sep 30 18:13:35 honestly -> https://launchpad.net/linaro-toolchain-binaries/+download Sep 30 18:13:38 lots to choose from Sep 30 18:13:38 erm, what Sep 30 18:13:46 m_billybob: cool Sep 30 18:14:04 which distro are you using ? Sep 30 18:14:11 ubuntu raring Sep 30 18:14:19 as host Sep 30 18:14:25 ok so you followed RCN instructions ? Sep 30 18:14:27 ubuntu quantal as target Sep 30 18:14:34 RCN? Sep 30 18:14:40 oh Sep 30 18:14:41 robeert nelson Sep 30 18:14:43 yeah Sep 30 18:14:45 https://github.com/RobertCNelson/stable-kernel Sep 30 18:14:50 is where I'm mostly at Sep 30 18:15:13 ok so the trick with ubuntu I think it uses the gnueabi not the gnueabihf like what is used for the kernel Sep 30 18:15:49 for debian i know for a fact that the kernel and user lands apps can both use gnueabihf Sep 30 18:16:04 but code i cross compile for my own debian, wont work with ubuntu Sep 30 18:16:20 a friend and I checked . . . Sep 30 18:16:29 I know for a fact that I have hf apps running on the board Sep 30 18:16:41 ok so could be a different libc Sep 30 18:16:41 with a ubuntu 12.10 image Sep 30 18:17:10 ok so use the compiler RCN had you download to compile the kernel Sep 30 18:17:34 http://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black Sep 30 18:17:35 I haven't seen that anywhere :/ Sep 30 18:17:47 I'm still not on a BBB :P Sep 30 18:18:00 yeah thats not *on* the bbb yet either Sep 30 18:18:16 those are cross compile instructions Sep 30 18:18:18 oh Sep 30 18:18:30 found the compiler (http://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBoard#BeagleBoard-ARMCrossCompiler:GCC) Sep 30 18:18:32 you have different hardware ? Sep 30 18:19:24 my dev machine is an x86_64 ubuntu 13.04 Sep 30 18:19:32 my target is a beagleboard xM C1 Sep 30 18:19:39 read teh gcc section of that link Sep 30 18:19:41 ah Sep 30 18:19:54 he may have a board specific post for that as well Sep 30 18:20:07 i know he does have his own BB MX(s) Sep 30 18:20:16 err XM(s) Sep 30 18:20:50 currently running RCN's ubuntu 12.10 image Sep 30 18:21:52 http://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBoard <---- though doesnt say which beagleboard Sep 30 18:22:06 yes, I'm looking at that right now Sep 30 18:22:15 I know very little about that hardware, other than it is different Sep 30 18:22:27 you could always ping him on that page -> messeges Sep 30 18:22:36 "comments" Sep 30 18:23:40 anyhow good luck with that got to run a bit Sep 30 18:23:49 take care Sep 30 18:43:38 yo Sep 30 18:44:22 anyone here know if there's a way to flash the board using FTDI? Sep 30 18:44:39 I'm almost certain that the board is dead but figure this would be one last way to get this working Sep 30 18:45:12 FYI - when I start the board the vcp just spits out the occational string of "C"s Sep 30 18:47:05 beagles tend to be hard to kill unless you short them Sep 30 18:48:12 <_av500_> mkjack_w: C means it cannot find boot code Sep 30 18:48:20 <_av500_> so, prepare an SDCA card Sep 30 18:48:22 <_av500_> put it inside Sep 30 18:48:27 <_av500_> hold boot button Sep 30 18:48:29 <_av500_> and power on Sep 30 18:49:10 _av500_: I've tried, doesn't take to the sd card (I've purchased 2… SDHC 8GB from Sandisk is the one I've used) Sep 30 18:49:14 <_av500_> SD card Sep 30 18:49:44 <_av500_> well Sep 30 18:50:00 <_av500_> normally when people claim that it does not boot from SD Sep 30 18:50:01 <_av500_> they did something wrong Sep 30 18:50:07 <_av500_> on average Sep 30 18:50:11 nah, pretty straight forward Sep 30 18:50:20 <_av500_> of course there could be a real fail here Sep 30 18:50:42 from dead, inserted sd card, held boot button, plugged in… only power led comes on Sep 30 18:50:56 <_av500_> and C stops? Sep 30 18:51:08 <_av500_> or still Cs on the serial? Sep 30 18:52:28 hey guys I just got a beaglebone black, and wanna make some LEDs flash! Sep 30 18:52:41 I'm trying to use attached LEDs on the breadboards Sep 30 18:53:45 :-/ unfortunately, my lunch break is over and I thought I would ask around about flashing from FTDI as a sidestep but no worries, I'll come back tomorrow during lunch and let you guys know what's up Sep 30 18:54:05 play by play Sep 30 18:59:54 Hey guys Sep 30 19:00:12 how is going on? Sep 30 19:02:02 I've got a problem with interrupts on beaglebone... I'm working on QNX and I'm trying to detect an interrupt on falling edge. From TRM I've seen that there are two register (GPIO_STATUS_1 and GPIO_STATUS_RAW_1) associated at each GPIO vector, Sep 30 19:03:05 but when I try to put the line down to GND, the GPIO_STATUS_1 doesn't detect the interrupt, while GPIO_STATUS_RAW_1 does Sep 30 19:03:13 maybe someone can help me? Sep 30 19:04:03 to be more specific, I'm using GPIO1_12 Sep 30 19:04:09 that is mapped as mode/ Sep 30 19:04:15 on cong_gmpc_ad12 Sep 30 19:04:19 pin Sep 30 19:04:41 mode(7) Sep 30 19:10:22 alessandro_ you are the first here aksing about qnx Sep 30 19:10:29 or third Sep 30 19:11:53 :) Sep 30 19:12:19 well, actually my question is more hardware related... Sep 30 19:12:39 ive my finger crossed for you Sep 30 19:12:48 ciao Sep 30 19:12:52 the tow register that I've mentioned (GPIO_STATUS_RAW_1..) Sep 30 19:13:04 belongs to the AM335x processor Sep 30 19:13:40 ciao Synko Sep 30 19:16:03 io faccio software non so neanche di cosa stai parlando Sep 30 19:17:28 ti ho soltanto salutato! :) Sep 30 19:19:05 ti volevo aiutare! Sep 30 19:19:13 thanks anyway Sep 30 19:19:16 :) Sep 30 19:19:19 ;) Sep 30 19:19:27 I lost my root password for my bbb. Is it possible to reset it? Sep 30 19:20:15 lostbeagle: yes enter with an sd and overwrite the passwd file with a new password Sep 30 19:23:11 would that overwrite the password stored in memory of the original image? Sep 30 19:23:36 the board is booting from memory... Sep 30 19:23:54 no sd card... Sep 30 19:24:12 take an sd, is the only chance you have Sep 30 19:24:37 thank you SyNko Sep 30 19:25:05 ok guys, see ya Sep 30 19:25:07 im pleased Sep 30 19:25:08 ciao Synko Sep 30 19:25:14 aspetta Sep 30 19:25:18 dimmi Sep 30 19:25:44 lascia la chat idle vedrai che qualcuno ti risponde, in questo canale ci sono anche i creatori della BBB Sep 30 19:25:52 solo che adesso sono away Sep 30 19:25:58 ok Sep 30 19:26:00 ci provo! Sep 30 19:26:05 grazie del consiglio Sep 30 19:26:07 prego Sep 30 19:26:37 av500 yeah power LED comes on that means he did somethign wrong Sep 30 19:26:41 99% sure Sep 30 19:27:12 if he had a serial debug cable( assuming BBB ) he would know exactly why Sep 30 19:27:57 m_billybob: I'm done building my kernel Sep 30 19:28:03 how do I install it? Sep 30 19:28:08 I made the debs Sep 30 19:28:16 but installing them puts the images into /boot/ Sep 30 19:28:25 which uboot ignores, apparently Sep 30 19:28:31 its been a while since ive installed the kernel using "the debian way" Sep 30 19:28:58 what formate are the kernels in ? Sep 30 19:29:03 uImage ? zImage ? Sep 30 19:29:22 the install_kernel.sh in the RCN looks like it does the right thing (writing to /boot/uboot( Sep 30 19:29:57 honestly, just so you know you also have to deal with uboot Sep 30 19:30:05 yeah, I know Sep 30 19:30:07 oh Sep 30 19:30:11 there is a default path that uboot looks for Sep 30 19:30:17 maybe I should install all the packages Sep 30 19:30:21 and not just one of them Sep 30 19:30:35 you can override it via uEnv.txt, but thats not somethign im prepared to instruct you on Sep 30 19:30:42 it takes a while to figure out Sep 30 19:30:48 *nod* Sep 30 19:30:52 here Sep 30 19:31:43 honestly, i have a blog post on this subject but its BBB oriented, it should give you a general idea, but . . . the guideprobably wotn work for your particular case Sep 30 19:31:47 i can link you if you like Sep 30 19:31:56 please do Sep 30 19:32:06 err actually my posts are on netbooting and usb booting Sep 30 19:32:09 but Sep 30 19:32:27 http://www.embeddedhobbyist.com/debian-tips/beaglebone-black/beaglebone-black-usb-boot/ Sep 30 19:32:43 I'll look at it Sep 30 19:32:50 more knowledge about this is better (: Sep 30 19:32:51 that should explain how it all works from 30kFT Sep 30 19:33:18 I also give an example, but . . . its USB and BBB/Debian specific Sep 30 19:34:15 whelp, installing the rest of the packages didn't do anything Sep 30 19:34:44 hold one Sep 30 19:34:49 hmmm Sep 30 19:34:51 actually Sep 30 19:35:13 I think you may do best in contacting RCN in the comments section of his pages there Sep 30 19:35:32 I know that the xM is different enough that what I would tell you would be wrong Sep 30 19:35:39 for your case Sep 30 19:35:44 *nod* Sep 30 19:37:39 you can also search his scripts there. and try to find the uboot header file. with the bbb header file, all i had to do was examine it, to get a good understanding of what uboot expects for parameters in uEnv.txt Sep 30 19:38:17 honestly which kernel version are you using ? Sep 30 19:38:47 3.2.x or 3.8.x ? im thining probably 3.2.x but obviously dont know Sep 30 19:40:35 DREAMHAMMER Sep 30 19:40:35 WHAT THEY DO: OS for drones Sep 30 19:40:35 WHY WE’RE WATCHING: An operating system for drones is interesting in and of itself, but the potential for standardizing drone interfaces is even more enticing. With proper evolution and thought, DreamHammer could one day bridge the gap between enterprise software and flying logistics drones, automated fulfillment robots, and sky-high observation platforms. Sep 30 19:40:35 Read more: http://sdt.bz/64125#ixzz2gPHUyDQI Sep 30 19:40:36 Follow us: @sdtimes on Twitter | sdtimes on Facebook Sep 30 19:42:50 m_billybob: I... I feel dirty Sep 30 19:43:44 m_billybob: the debs that fell out of the kernel compilation installed a vmlinuz and an initrd.img in /boot/, so I backed up /uboot/zImage and /uboot/initrd.img and just copied over them Sep 30 19:43:48 and it boots Sep 30 19:44:27 m_billybob: the original image was 3.7, the kernel I just compiled, installed, and booted is 3.9 Sep 30 19:48:57 I'm alessandro_ (I've moved to mIrc instead of using the embedded irc on beagleboard website...) Sep 30 19:49:19 is there some that worked with interrupts on beaglebone, anyway? Sep 30 19:49:21 :) Sep 30 19:49:51 is there someone that worked with interrupts on beaglebone, anyway? Sep 30 20:04:56 hey guys! Sep 30 20:05:46 ah, im stuck with 3.8.x that is until 3.12 gets a bit better Sep 30 20:05:53 honestly ^^ Sep 30 20:08:16 okay Sep 30 20:10:11 3.12-rc3 works for me... except for usb :( Sep 30 20:14:45 N2TOH: honestly, the combination of enterprise software and drones, or anything working autonomously is horrifiying and should be closely watched indeed Sep 30 20:16:31 yeah indeed, we don't need more drones. and we especially don't need them here in the US Sep 30 20:20:53 oh,, you live in the us Sep 30 20:21:01 then you definitly need drones with enterprise software Sep 30 20:22:06 lol Sep 30 20:22:19 otherwise a solution in search of a problem Sep 30 20:22:47 we need microbots like the insect radiocontrolled Sep 30 20:23:29 at one point they produced a radio controlled roach Sep 30 20:26:18 yes i know Sep 30 20:26:33 is little shite cause they are life form Sep 30 20:27:00 what about being radiocontrolled by an alien, is a kind of scare Sep 30 20:27:49 m_billybob: looks like everything is working swimmingly (: Sep 30 21:27:40 Anyone know what the default IP address is for the images here: https://rcn-ee.net/deb/flasher/ ? (The images pointed to by the elinux.org wiki on how to flash debian/unbutu to the BBB) Sep 30 21:59:24 honestly, awesome ( yeah i know delayed reaction but ive been off doing more things *again*) Sep 30 22:00:36 havent even touched my bbb in two weeks i need to fix that Sep 30 22:00:58 m_billybob: I just found out I compiled without netconsole Sep 30 22:01:19 no idea what that *is* ;) Sep 30 22:01:35 netconsole is what people who don't have serial access need :P Sep 30 22:01:45 it pushes logs out on udp Sep 30 22:01:53 ah Sep 30 22:02:03 it's a kernel module Sep 30 22:02:22 sounds neat Sep 30 22:02:28 can't compile it right now because I'm in the process of pushing the entire compilation directory to a server right now... Sep 30 22:03:36 people who don't have serial access need to fix their shit asap Sep 30 22:04:12 I have a pretty nifty setup here. Atleast for me. I run a Win7 host system, with debian wheezy in a VM, which serves as my tftp/NFS/cross compile "system". I also have a dedicated laptop that does the same duties, but ive been changing things around a lot and didnt wantto muck it up Sep 30 22:04:41 mru: well, do you know if/how I can use the UART on a beagle board xM as serial console? Sep 30 22:04:51 plug it in Sep 30 22:04:58 lol Sep 30 22:05:02 doesn't work Sep 30 22:05:08 mine works Sep 30 22:05:11 honestly, all you need a compatible ftdi module Sep 30 22:05:20 mine doesn't Sep 30 22:05:25 m_billybob: xm doesn't even need that Sep 30 22:05:27 I only have a shitty usb serial adapter Sep 30 22:05:37 ill assume the xM is is 3v3 ttl , but i really dotn know Sep 30 22:05:42 it's not Sep 30 22:05:56 you can plug any usb-serial adapter directly into the db9 connector on the board Sep 30 22:06:03 I get a /dev/ttyUSB0 Sep 30 22:06:12 but minicom keeps saying "Offline" Sep 30 22:06:24 ignore that Sep 30 22:06:28 lol Sep 30 22:06:32 just disable flow control Sep 30 22:06:35 and do what? Sep 30 22:06:38 oh Sep 30 22:06:40 ok Sep 30 22:06:43 lemme try it Sep 30 22:06:55 the 'offline' thing refers to the carrier detect signal or something Sep 30 22:07:04 which isn't used here Sep 30 22:07:30 115200 bps, 8n1, no flow control Sep 30 22:07:52 so the xM has a physical db9 eh ? Sep 30 22:07:57 yes Sep 30 22:08:03 oldschool ;) Sep 30 22:08:17 where do I set the flow control? Sep 30 22:08:37 somewhere in the settings menus Sep 30 22:08:39 should be a minicom setting cmd line switch or something Sep 30 22:11:07 ah, found hardware flow control Sep 30 22:11:10 that was on Sep 30 22:11:34 * m_billybob uses puTTY Sep 30 22:13:20 honestly: yeah, turn that off Sep 30 22:13:56 still nothing Sep 30 22:14:09 serial console must be turned off Sep 30 22:14:40 I'll reboot and see if anything scrolls by Sep 30 22:15:16 hrm Sep 30 22:16:33 perhaps needs to be setup in inittab ? Sep 30 22:16:52 no Sep 30 22:16:57 minicom was just being stupid Sep 30 22:17:28 "minicom /dev/ttyUSB0" does not what one would expect :| Sep 30 22:17:49 ive never used minicom to date Sep 30 22:18:06 minicom is a bit weird Sep 30 22:18:08 huh Sep 30 22:18:11 suddenly, bootloop Sep 30 22:18:14 :| Sep 30 22:18:19 ah Sep 30 22:18:35 it bootloops because I attached the UART? Sep 30 22:19:25 weird Sep 30 22:19:58 it kept bootlooping until I hit enter, which gave me a prompt, and issued "boot" Sep 30 22:20:00 very weird. Sep 30 22:21:00 so sounds like somethign is working ? Sep 30 22:21:05 something is Sep 30 22:21:16 but it doesn't bring up eth0 now Sep 30 22:21:29 although it's in runleve 2 Sep 30 22:21:34 runlevel* Sep 30 22:22:07 sounds like its setup a little differently from the uboot on the bbb Sep 30 22:22:12 "no such device" Sep 30 22:22:16 erm Sep 30 22:22:21 it's the same ubuntu Sep 30 22:22:36 diferent kernel and possibly different uboot too Sep 30 22:22:42 nope Sep 30 22:22:49 the 3.9.11 kernel Sep 30 22:22:52 how are you powering, and what's plugged in? Sep 30 22:22:52 I dont run 3.9.x . . . Sep 30 22:22:55 that I just made Sep 30 22:23:07 m_billybob: oh, that's what you meant Sep 30 22:23:16 no, it's supposed to bring up eth0 Sep 30 22:23:27 and it did that until I attached the uart Sep 30 22:23:39 something's fucky... Sep 30 22:24:26 here is what i am thinking. and I could quite possibly be wrong. When you issued "boot" you did not setup the ethernet device fisrt Sep 30 22:24:28 it really goes into a bootloop Sep 30 22:24:36 oh Sep 30 22:24:37 so somehow maybe it booted into the kernel in some othe rode Sep 30 22:24:40 that *could* be Sep 30 22:24:52 some other mode* Sep 30 22:25:55 how do I get from this serial console to uboot? Sep 30 22:26:00 However that initial bootloops does not sound right Sep 30 22:26:11 this *is* uboot actually Sep 30 22:26:14 yeah Sep 30 22:26:18 yeah i figured Sep 30 22:26:36 it boots, and dmesg scrolls by for 4.4 seconds, and then it loops Sep 30 22:27:24 in this context the only "experience" that i have is from what I have read. I dotn have a proper serial module for my own device. so i use a msp430 launchpad @ 9600bps that only gives me meseges after the kernel starts loading Sep 30 22:27:57 http://paste.ubuntu.com/6177528/ Sep 30 22:28:01 this is the log Sep 30 22:28:09 honestly at the prompt though you *should* be able to type "help" to see what options you hve Sep 30 22:28:13 er, the output Sep 30 22:28:29 yep Sep 30 22:29:54 there is a printenv command! Sep 30 22:30:06 ;) Sep 30 22:34:56 honestly does the xM have a physical ethernet port ? or does it only have g_ether ? Sep 30 22:35:26 because i see nothing in your log there that indicates that it does have a physical ethernet port Sep 30 22:35:36 it has both a micro-usb port with an ethernet gadget, and a usb-attached physical ethernet port Sep 30 22:35:56 ok so in this context just like the BBB Sep 30 22:36:45 line 29 - > Net: usb_ether Sep 30 22:37:07 :| Sep 30 22:37:19 "fatload" tells me it exists Sep 30 22:37:36 when I give fatload actual parameters, it says "unknown command fatload" Sep 30 22:37:55 read the first several lines under line 29 Sep 30 22:38:07 this is almost like busybox Sep 30 22:38:08 perhaps you need a line in uEnv.txt to init the eithernet Sep 30 22:38:09 just worse Sep 30 22:38:19 m_billybob: I didn't need that in the last 5 hours Sep 30 22:38:28 until I attached the uart cable :P Sep 30 22:42:06 okay Sep 30 22:42:16 so fatload actually works when I type it in by hand Sep 30 22:42:34 hi anyone there? Sep 30 22:43:17 hi Sep 30 22:43:22 but this doesn't work: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6177552/ Sep 30 22:45:24 anyone has experience about this problem:vfs cannot open root device null or unknown-block 0 0 Sep 30 22:45:51 compile angstrom kernel, then boot error. Sep 30 22:46:10 okay, so "run mmcboot" is what sends it into the bootloop Sep 30 22:46:42 to me? Sep 30 22:46:51 Abama, that's why I use the uSD as boot device. I treat the eMMC as cheap insurance Sep 30 22:47:51 N2TOH i dont know what is your problem. Sep 30 22:50:28 I have no problem, I have chosen to run the OS from the uSD card and reserve to keep the onboard flash as an emergency backup for repairs should the uSD install become corrupted Sep 30 22:53:19 abama have you specified the rootfs in uboot to be passed to the kernel? Sep 30 22:54:44 i have add root =/dev/mm**0p2 Sep 30 22:54:50 is it correct? Sep 30 22:55:45 i add root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 Sep 30 22:56:50 mru: you broke my beagleboard :| Sep 30 22:57:20 first i need ask is where i need add the rootfs to fat or to linux /boot? Sep 30 23:10:01 not sure if it's mmcblk0p2 or mmcblk1p2 on the bbb Sep 30 23:10:34 mmcblk0p2 show this on the beaglebone. Sep 30 23:10:44 depends on where it puts the SD and the emmc Sep 30 23:11:15 SD card Sep 30 23:13:58 ok , thank you will look at the problem tomorrow. thanks for your help. Sep 30 23:17:09 the damn thing was working so well Sep 30 23:17:10 honestly yeah idk al i know is that you're boot sequence shouldnt get all funky like that Sep 30 23:17:16 your* Sep 30 23:17:44 lol Sep 30 23:17:50 for some reason it booted now Sep 30 23:18:05 but without eth0 Sep 30 23:18:18 honestly, so maybe just post a general question on the groups, and ask if someone has an idea as to what what you've done so far ( and specify what you'v done ) is doing what it is doing Sep 30 23:18:39 as to why what you've done so far Sep 30 23:18:51 I don't even know what's going on Sep 30 23:19:05 but yeah I just dont have enough hands on with the xM to know where to even look Sep 30 23:19:15 * honestly blames mru Sep 30 23:19:19 i can keep guessing . . . Sep 30 23:19:45 mmcargs shouldnt be causing an issue though Sep 30 23:19:45 could always be a power issue I guess Sep 30 23:19:59 you pwering via USB ? Sep 30 23:20:03 anyone know of a guide / page that shows you how to set group permissions on the /sys/... folder when you turn on a gpio device via the /sys/class/gpio/export command? Basically, it's auto setting things to root -- how can i change that to a different group by default? Sep 30 23:20:03 powering* Sep 30 23:20:16 yep Sep 30 23:20:34 so you're getting 500mA max from USB Sep 30 23:21:03 And the processor is downclocked. Sep 30 23:21:16 I suppose it could be. However I power my BBB via USB, granted i do use a USB 3.0 port Sep 30 23:21:38 Not like the bone knows any different. Sep 30 23:21:45 and ive booted with USB host and ethernet all turned on and being used Sep 30 23:21:52 Still limits itself to 500mA on that port, and thus downclocks. Sep 30 23:22:02 no but USB 3.0 would garuntee atleast 500mA Sep 30 23:22:05 it wouldn't give more than 500mA to something that only has whatever the BB has Sep 30 23:22:12 USB2.0 wont necessarily Sep 30 23:22:53 idk we're also stabbing in the dark Sep 30 23:22:56 USB2.0 is required to provide 500mA if it is branded USB2.0. Sep 30 23:23:08 oh fucking hell are you kidding me Sep 30 23:23:15 I plugged it into a usb 3.0 port Sep 30 23:23:17 :| Sep 30 23:23:17 agmlego uh, how long you been in the field ? Sep 30 23:23:33 we all know substadards parts *never* make it into the field ;) Sep 30 23:23:44 substandard* Sep 30 23:23:59 m_billybob: Just saying, if the port does *not* provide to spec, report the device to the standards committee and have them pull the brand license. ;-P Sep 30 23:24:18 m_billybob: there are wireless cards that cheat on the standoff / interframe waiting periods Sep 30 23:24:31 "random backoff? 0 is random enough" Sep 30 23:24:38 heh Sep 30 23:25:06 0 also conveniently guarantees "winning" the medium over any card that actually conforms to the standard Sep 30 23:25:38 well i cant say for the xM but the BBB with *everything* plugged in and used, can draw up to somethign like 472mA -> ish. in my own mind thats cutting things a little close Sep 30 23:26:13 so if you get a bit of vdroop . . . yeah Sep 30 23:26:40 I'd power it from a proper power supply... but all I have here is a micro-usb Sep 30 23:26:49 same Sep 30 23:27:13 I also have an adjustable lab power supply that my late grandfather built himself 30 years ago, lol Sep 30 23:27:41 well we have one bbb plugged into the mains, but we're solar power here and sometimes when pumping water switch from a genset and back etc . . . me being the softwareguy, i need a bit of stability. I like to write apps and let the mrun for months if i can Sep 30 23:28:32 the hardwareguy all he cares about if it on when he wanted to toy with it hehehe Sep 30 23:29:08 I have ten beagleboard xMs in a server room Sep 30 23:29:10 The bone, with the processor clocked all the way up, and nothing else plugged in, will happily draw well more that 500mA and go into a reset loop. Sep 30 23:29:20 most of them die within a few hours Sep 30 23:29:32 I haven't been able to debug it yet :| Sep 30 23:29:47 The naive debian images will do this, because they run the BogoMIPS check before polling the TPS chip for clocking information. Sep 30 23:30:18 agmlego, ive had the whats it called . . . cpuinfo-set -g performance ( 1Ghz ) set as well as USB and ethernet worign all at once over USB 3 Sep 30 23:30:42 for almost a month Sep 30 23:31:05 m_billybob: And I have yet to be able to boot a debian image, on any bone, from any USB2.0 port or 500mA supply on the USB pins, period. Sep 30 23:31:19 really ? Sep 30 23:31:23 Booting from the DC supply works fine. Sep 30 23:31:35 white or black ? Sep 30 23:31:53 Yes, the TPS chip is programmed by default to limit the power drawn from the USB pins to 500mA max, and reset the processor if it gets over that. Sep 30 23:31:56 Both. Sep 30 23:32:32 hmm i always get networkign done over ethernet. and I have always powered via the mini USB, and ive even booted from a USB HDD Sep 30 23:32:34 While the TPS chip allows up to 2A on the DC pins. Sep 30 23:33:30 maybe because im not doing much with the gpio yet Sep 30 23:33:56 THis was always on a bare board, nothing attached to it but USB and the uSD card. Sep 30 23:34:01 I did write an app that loaded the processor 60% though and let that run for like 4 days Sep 30 23:35:08 maybe i got an extra good board idk Sep 30 23:35:52 we got two boards about a week after the BBB went "live" to the general public *shrug* Sep 30 23:36:07 we were on the waiting list for abotu two months Sep 30 23:36:44 anyhow Sep 30 23:37:00 We got ours before that. Sep 30 23:37:15 Helps to have one of the creators as a member of your hackerspace. ;-P Sep 30 23:37:24 sure :) Sep 30 23:38:58 honestly, so you're booting via sdcard ? Sep 30 23:41:06 does the xM have emmc ? hmmm dunno thinking not but what do i know. so if mmcargs is what is causing issues and you're booting via sdcard, that tells me one of a very few things. 1, the kernel, or related dtb is not found in the expected path Sep 30 23:42:01 m_billybob: it was a power issue :| Sep 30 23:42:09 oh ? Sep 30 23:42:16 yup Sep 30 23:42:22 m_billybob: The xM does not have any eMMC onboard. Sep 30 23:42:25 did you say that above ? Sep 30 23:42:36 m_billybob: It is basically the bone white, with less GPIO. Sep 30 23:42:40 01:23:08 < honestly> oh fucking hell are you kidding me Sep 30 23:42:42 01:23:14 < honestly> I plugged it into a usb 3.0 port Sep 30 23:42:45 01:23:16 < honestly> :| Sep 30 23:42:50 ah i saw that Sep 30 23:42:55 I should have been more explicit about it not having been in a usb 3.0 port before. Sep 30 23:43:04 hmm Sep 30 23:43:24 so it is all workign correctly now then ? Sep 30 23:43:38 err yeah dislexic fingers here sorry. Sep 30 23:43:49 dyslexic - whatever. Sep 30 23:44:00 yep Sep 30 23:44:06 awesome Sep 30 23:45:22 I've also been working pretty much nonstop for over 12 hours Sep 30 23:45:42 so what are you going to do with 10 of those ? Sep 30 23:46:08 they're just arm targets Sep 30 23:46:20 I'm a student at TU München Sep 30 23:46:27 and I work as TA / tutor a lot Sep 30 23:46:50 honestly, by the way, my buddy here the hardwareguy, says as long asyou pay attention to specs, many of those cheapo chineese walwart power supplies work fine. Sep 30 23:47:09 this semester, I'm working as TA / tutor for a lab / project course that's about writing low-level arm code Sep 30 23:47:22 think he paid like $6 us including shipping for his Sep 30 23:47:29 ah nice Sep 30 23:47:37 did that a year ago as well, when the course was done the first time Sep 30 23:47:56 we only had beagle boards clamped to desks in lab rooms then Sep 30 23:48:05 so you are majoring in CS or EE ? Sep 30 23:48:13 ( both ? ) Sep 30 23:48:20 so the idea was to make a small remotely accessible bb farm for students to access them from home Sep 30 23:48:24 CS Sep 30 23:48:37 very cool Sep 30 23:48:39 I'm starting my second year of master's course Sep 30 23:48:51 I've been cooking up a mean little setup for this Sep 30 23:49:05 massively over-engineered if I'm honest >_> Sep 30 23:49:31 i was thinking some kind of multi processing farm ( think beowulf ) would be kind of cool Sep 30 23:49:37 yeah Sep 30 23:49:49 BBB running Ubuntu - Is it possible to run a command like "echo 48 > /sys/class/gpio/export" from code without being root? It auto creates a directory owned by root/root. Is there a way to change those default permissions, or ... some other way for code to access those directories without being root? Sep 30 23:49:53 I might use it as a build farm for archlinuxarm Sep 30 23:49:59 if they want it (: Sep 30 23:50:11 shdowhawk sudo . . . Sep 30 23:50:20 in codo - automatically Sep 30 23:50:26 shdowhawk can also make std user a part of that grop i believe Sep 30 23:50:27 in code* Sep 30 23:50:37 and change directory group permissions Sep 30 23:50:53 err change group owner ? Sep 30 23:51:00 if i chgrp, then reboot and re-add… i have to change them all manually again Sep 30 23:51:01 shdowhawk: just run your code with sudo Sep 30 23:51:16 there are other solutions but... don't Sep 30 23:51:17 automated code… web interface. Sep 30 23:51:33 :/ Sep 30 23:52:22 run a service that run the commands and can be used by the web interface Sep 30 23:52:29 shdowhawk im doing somethign similar and have yet to work that out for myself as well Sep 30 23:52:34 yeah Sep 30 23:52:41 service can work too depends Sep 30 23:53:10 im making a nodejs web interface appliance Sep 30 23:53:42 *cough* setuid binary *cough* Sep 30 23:53:43 i'm new to this. What do you mean by a service that can run it? something like an .sh file with sudoer permissions? Sep 30 23:54:03 shdowhawk google can tell yo ubetter than most Sep 30 23:54:17 ubuntu you say ? Sep 30 23:54:25 can you give me some key words to look up? Sep 30 23:54:33 yea, ubuntu build Sep 30 23:54:47 shdowhawk: I mean a daemon that you start as root, and then it acquires file descriptors on the files you want to mess with and drops the root privileges Sep 30 23:54:54 that would be the really clean way to do this Sep 30 23:55:32 shdowhawk ubuntu howto add boot time service Sep 30 23:55:45 i know guides exist for debian Sep 30 23:55:56 but dont know if it would be sligfhtly different for ubuntu Sep 30 23:56:14 Sort of. Sep 30 23:56:35 init.d is used but its different from how it was done in previous version of debian for wheezy Sep 30 23:56:36 Ubuntu went with the Upstart system a while back, and it does not work the same as rc does. Sep 30 23:59:43 agmlego yeah thats what i keep hearing. but honestly ubuntu lost its appeal for me years ago Oct 01 00:00:00 so . . . yeah i dont give a rats behind abotu it personally. Oct 01 00:00:00 Same here. Oct 01 00:02:00 I'm not happy with ubuntu either Oct 01 00:02:34 oi, I just recently removed upstart from another system that hung during boot for no discernible reason Oct 01 00:03:04 Russ: did you unbuntu the system? Oct 01 00:04:09 it was actually a debian system with upstrart Oct 01 00:04:40 apt-get --purge remove upstart :P Oct 01 00:04:46 * m_billybob honestly has no idea Oct 01 00:05:22 You can actually just do apt-get purge. Oct 01 00:06:06 for me would probably be safer to use aptitude Oct 01 00:06:34 How do you figure? Oct 01 00:06:35 cat /dev/zero >/dev/sda Oct 01 00:07:16 agmlego in the case of a package i have no idea what it depends on etc . . . Oct 01 00:07:32 and what depends can be safely removed. Oct 01 00:07:42 apt will show you just as much imformation as aptitude will. Oct 01 00:08:05 maybe im thinking oldschool apt. ive destroyed a few installs Oct 01 00:08:23 Maybe you just need to be better at apt. ;-P Oct 01 00:08:38 I do still occationally leanr somethign new about apt Oct 01 00:09:01 for instance last week just learned that you *can* rate limit apt Oct 01 00:09:22 just by using apt nothing else Oct 01 00:09:57 Yeah. Oct 01 00:10:33 sudo apt-get -o Acquire::http::Dl-Limit=25 {install } or {upgrade} or any other apt command. Oct 01 00:11:34 * m_billybob wrote it down in a text file as he will most likely forget Oct 01 00:13:17 how do I put custom kernel args into uEnv.txt? Oct 01 00:13:33 with an editor Oct 01 00:14:01 # sudo vim /boot/uboot/uEnv.txt Oct 01 00:14:03 done! Oct 01 00:14:06 what's next? Oct 01 00:14:36 should I edit the optargs line? Oct 01 00:15:54 Yup. Oct 01 00:16:04 As in, the OPTional ARGumentS line. Oct 01 00:18:57 dayum Oct 01 00:19:04 apparently netconfig is a no-go :/ Oct 01 00:20:56 hmm ? Oct 01 00:21:04 netconsole* Oct 01 00:21:09 [ 136.983703] netpoll: netconsole: eth0 doesn't support polling, aborting Oct 01 00:21:36 still trying to find out if there's somethign I can do make it work Oct 01 00:22:07 would have to compile the module into the kernelstatically id think ( assuming it will work at all ) Oct 01 00:22:26 the module is working fine, and I have netpoll support in the kernel Oct 01 00:22:44 this seems like a network driver / NIC problem Oct 01 00:23:24 did you compile in as in <*> and not [m] ? Oct 01 00:23:41 I compiled netconsole as [m] Oct 01 00:24:18 you think it might work if I compile it into the kernel? Oct 01 00:24:48 I really dont know im just stabbing at air but yeah thats what im thinking. doesnt mean im right either Oct 01 00:25:10 ive foudn a long time ago about boot time modules . . . Oct 01 00:25:59 *nod* Oct 01 00:26:04 I'm rebuilding the kernel Oct 01 00:31:52 i went through this myself for iSCSI root fs Oct 01 00:32:55 then later decided i wanted to netboot so . . . tftp / NFS . . . Oct 01 00:33:22 no dice with netconsole ): Oct 01 00:34:36 bummer Oct 01 00:36:29 hrrrmmm Oct 01 00:36:57 I have a suspicion that things can actually be patched so that the ethernet supports polling Oct 01 00:37:23 did you look for other ethernet options in menu config ? Oct 01 00:37:44 i was thinking the same thing Oct 01 00:38:55 could also grep .config for ethernet polling, although a google search may be in order to find the right define Oct 01 00:39:06 google is being fruitless so far Oct 01 00:39:50 menuconf is not very accessible :| Oct 01 00:40:21 im still learning in this regard so i often have to Oct 01 00:40:30 go in and poke around Oct 01 00:40:46 not finding anything grepping .config for "POLL" Oct 01 00:41:12 honestly: what are looking for? Oct 01 00:42:04 prpplague: making the bb-xM ethernet support polling Oct 01 00:42:27 uh why? Oct 01 00:42:35 because netconsole needs that Oct 01 00:43:12 and I need netconsole Oct 01 00:43:22 honestly: why do you need netconsole? Oct 01 00:43:56 because I want the console log to be sent to a server Oct 01 00:45:22 * prpplague shakes his head and goes back to work.... Oct 01 00:45:25 honestly, i can think of one way to achieve the same goal. Oct 01 00:45:31 one other way* Oct 01 00:45:54 a bit more complex and possibly more comvoluted Oct 01 00:45:56 rsyslogd? Oct 01 00:46:04 was thinking using nfs Oct 01 00:46:15 rsyslogd can probably do it Oct 01 00:46:26 and I think I'm never going to get netconsole working at boot anyway Oct 01 00:46:43 (because when the kernel loads netconsole, eth0 doesn't exist yet) Oct 01 00:47:09 you should be reorder that Oct 01 00:47:14 be able to* Oct 01 00:47:26 how? Oct 01 00:47:33 but thats not your only obstical Oct 01 00:47:34 init.d Oct 01 00:47:47 you can specify when services load Oct 01 00:47:55 and in what order Oct 01 00:47:57 it's a service? Oct 01 00:48:03 well the driver no Oct 01 00:48:31 yeah nvm im off topic my bad Oct 01 00:49:14 As a built-in, Oct 01 00:49:17 netconsole initializes immediately after NIC cards and will bring up Oct 01 00:49:19 the specified interface as soon as possible. Oct 01 00:49:22 ^ lies :| Oct 01 00:49:47 honestly so im expecting you want to have access to the per board logs, so you know what was done on that given board, when somethign goes wrong Oct 01 00:49:55 yup Oct 01 00:50:02 e.g. students tend to screw thigns up Oct 01 00:51:05 right now, the boards manage to screw up all by themselves Oct 01 00:51:16 i am not familiar with what you mentioned but setting up 10 or so /var/log/ or similar nfs shares should be trivial Oct 01 00:51:19 I have a faint hope that the new image might just magically fix that Oct 01 00:51:36 yeah, I'll actually be running nfs anyway Oct 01 00:51:48 but I'd rather have it done properly with rsyslog Oct 01 00:51:51 but I'd rather have it done properly with rsyslogd Oct 01 00:52:59 i dont see nfs asbeing a bad thing. I have my rootfs over nfs :) Oct 01 00:53:18 but again i know nothing about rsyslogd Oct 01 00:54:11 I feel like rsyslogd would be more reliable to get a kernel panic or kernel oops actually sent to the server than an nfs setup Oct 01 00:55:35 I dont know. but ill be back later need to go check up on a lady friend Oct 01 00:55:45 take care Oct 01 00:55:58 you too and ill be back in a couple hours Oct 01 00:56:13 but i have this sneakign suspicion you may be asleep Oct 01 00:56:27 unless you do one of those marathon system "tweak" fests like i do Oct 01 00:56:30 * m_billybob waves Oct 01 00:56:59 I had a beer Oct 01 00:57:24 so I might soon decide that the tiredness level surpasses the caring level Oct 01 01:51:00 any body feel like helping me get a enc28j60 workin on bbb? Oct 01 01:53:25 just got it in the mail today Oct 01 01:53:28 ^_^ Oct 01 01:57:03 Hello. Anybody know of a common reason why precompiled armhf ubuntu build (saucy) would have no hdmi audio output on beagle bone black? Oct 01 01:57:24 swilshy Oct 01 01:57:41 yes? Oct 01 01:58:03 up grade your kernel and circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=BeagleBoneBlack_HDMI Oct 01 01:58:31 im listening to music as we speek on my bbb Oct 01 01:59:04 hah, well that is promising. Thank you for the help, I will try to upgrade now. Oct 01 01:59:56 what version ubuntu? Oct 01 02:00:05 swilshy, Oct 01 02:01:21 swilshy, i found a script for easy kernel update >> http://www.bmatusiak.us/blog/523ea054ce18b00200000003 Oct 01 02:01:28 saucy salamander (development branch) release: 13.10 Oct 01 02:01:38 oo Oct 01 02:01:59 i favor the lts versions :/ Oct 01 02:03:23 that link will work.. just need to change the "export DIST=precise" to "export DIST=saucy" Oct 01 02:04:18 and the builds are courtesy of http://rcn-ee.net/ Oct 01 02:05:38 Thank you! Oct 01 02:06:36 no prob Oct 01 02:06:44 audio work now? Oct 01 02:07:23 i listen to a stream for testing audio Oct 01 02:08:20 bmatusiak_: enc28j60 driver has been mainline for years, and all you need to do is setup the dtbo with which spi interface you are using Oct 01 02:08:29 bmatusiak_: why are you adding a enc28j60 to the black? Oct 01 02:09:33 prpplague, i wana learn Oct 01 02:09:44 i see Oct 01 02:10:28 I seriously doubt you will get 100Mb SPI working Oct 01 02:10:33 i figured it would be cool to get into a easy depth on adding hardware like so Oct 01 02:10:34 mebbe 10Mb Oct 01 02:10:48 10 better then nothing.. Oct 01 02:10:50 :P Oct 01 02:11:06 RUDE BASTARDS... Oct 01 02:11:22 ka6sox-away: enc28j60 is only 10mb anyway Oct 01 02:11:49 ka6sox-away: actual performance is about to 5 to 7 Oct 01 02:12:57 bmatusiak_: http://elinux.org/BeagleBone_Black_Enable_SPIDEV Oct 01 02:13:09 bmatusiak_: just change the driver from spidev to enc28j60 Oct 01 02:16:15 bmatusiak thank you for your help. I executed the script that you told me to and it looks like it ran with no output. Should I reboot? Oct 01 02:17:42 swilshy, check /boot/ Oct 01 02:18:27 initrd image (3.11.1) and uboot folder Oct 01 02:19:31 humm Oct 01 02:19:32 it was trying to make a symbolic link to the zImage that I downloaded, right? I can just manually symlink it Oct 01 02:20:01 well the script should have used deb packages and did that u4 Oct 01 02:20:16 dont look like it updated Oct 01 02:21:50 swilshy, let me run the script realQuick on my bbb Oct 01 02:22:13 ok. no worries. thank you. Oct 01 02:24:59 ohhhh Oct 01 02:25:07 I think I know what happened Oct 01 02:25:44 beagle bone black question: is there a command to check if there is power running to a pgio? I've gotten p9_12 (gpio60) to light up an led … which is good stuff (echo high < .../gpio60/direction). Is there a command to see what state it's in? Oct 01 02:26:02 I executed your script exactly as written. I think I was supposed to execute the install-me script that I downloaded before overwriting it like in the script. Oct 01 02:27:11 yea i just copy and paste right in the terminal/ssh Oct 01 02:28:38 shdowhawk: list the contents of that directory there are a few files there you can interface with Oct 01 02:30:19 thurgood: ahh… foodstuff. I see how to do it. Thanks =) Oct 01 02:30:27 swilshy, i found that info @ http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#Install_Latest_Kernel_Image Oct 01 02:32:10 swilshy, now that im looking at my script i misplaced the echo Oct 01 02:34:22 swilshy, i fixed it on my page Oct 01 02:34:39 great, thank you! Oct 01 02:36:37 my echo was not supose to overwrite just append so i made it more explicit Oct 01 02:37:14 ok. ran the update. booting now. Oct 01 02:38:48 looks like successful update! Thanks again. Oct 01 02:38:55 i use mpg123 to play mp3/streams Oct 01 02:39:19 I'll try that, I installed alsa which may be complicating things Oct 01 02:40:25 i also installed alsa Oct 01 02:40:40 i think the package i used was alsa-utils Oct 01 02:41:15 to check hardware "sudo aplay -L" Oct 01 02:42:06 you should see "default:CARD=Black TI BeagleBone Black, Default Audio Device" Oct 01 02:42:47 **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices **** card 0: Black [TI BeagleBone Black], device 0: HDMI nxp-hdmi-hifi-0 [] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 Oct 01 02:44:01 swilshy, look like its there :P Oct 01 02:44:12 haha, must be operator error! Oct 01 02:44:40 I will play with it some more and see what I can get it to do Oct 01 02:45:35 I dont get errors with aplay, just no sound Oct 01 02:45:58 its like its muted Oct 01 02:47:00 install mpg123 Oct 01 02:47:59 installed Oct 01 02:48:02 run " sudo mpg123 http://37.59.36.82:8010/" this is current stream im listening to Oct 01 02:48:20 some mild techno :/ Oct 01 02:50:26 alright, I have audio! it gave me an error: unknown PCM cards.pcm.front Oct 01 02:50:28 but its playing Oct 01 02:50:33 :P Oct 01 02:50:36 YAY! Oct 01 02:51:01 I dont know what is special about that program, but at least I can listen to some mild techno now, hah Oct 01 02:51:15 so now you know sounds works too Oct 01 02:51:26 exactly, that's a relief Oct 01 02:51:33 do you get that error too? Oct 01 02:51:47 i dont think i did Oct 01 02:51:54 i could have over looked it Oct 01 02:52:17 audo started plaing so i just minimized ssh Oct 01 02:52:18 lol Oct 01 02:52:50 hmm, maybe some setting. I'll play around with it. But thank you for the help, I'm all set now. Oct 01 02:53:08 prpplague, thats for the link i will give it a shot Oct 01 02:53:15 thanks* Oct 01 02:59:35 Question **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Oct 01 02:59:58 2013