**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Oct 09 02:59:58 2013
Oct 09 05:21:20 <jojojojo> mm
Oct 09 05:37:09 <niggler> beagle should just sell out to raspi
Oct 09 05:39:13 <_av500_> +1
Oct 09 05:40:20 <emeb_mac> surrender now - you cannot win!
Oct 09 05:40:36 <_av500_> raspi is dead since Intelduino
Oct 09 05:41:12 <emeb_mac> witness the power of this fully operational battle station
Oct 09 05:56:51 <emlosis> hi
Oct 09 05:57:09 <emlosis> im from mexico where y buy the beaglebone black?
Oct 09 05:58:19 <natsurou> emlosis: you can but it from seeed studio
Oct 09 05:58:31 <natsurou> it ships free from china
Oct 09 05:58:43 <natsurou> if your order is above 50 USD
Oct 09 05:59:17 <emlosis> ammm seeedstudio.com ??
Oct 09 05:59:18 <natsurou> so you can buy a beagle (45), an adapter (3) and an HDMI micro cable (4)
Oct 09 05:59:21 <natsurou> yep
Oct 09 05:59:40 <natsurou> and you're ready to start
Oct 09 06:00:15 <emlosis> thank you very much! I'll look in the store
Oct 09 06:00:16 <natsurou> the orders take aprox. 3 weeks to arrive to america tho
Oct 09 06:00:33 <emlosis> 3 weeks! aaaaa
Oct 09 06:00:54 <natsurou> (you can request express shipping, it would cost you ~30 USD tho)
Oct 09 06:02:06 <_av500_> emlosis: see the website, it lists distributors
Oct 09 06:02:41 <emlosis> why the beaglebone black is more cheap tan the beagle bone?
Oct 09 06:07:44 <_av500_> differnet parts
Oct 09 06:07:54 <_av500_> made in larger quantities
Oct 09 06:08:08 <philenotfound> emlosis: ddr3 instead of ddr2 ram is cheaper apparently
Oct 09 06:08:52 <emlosis> yes, I think so
Oct 09 06:09:33 <emlosis> aaaa in seed studio the BeagleBone Black is out of stock :(
Oct 09 07:54:39 <michael___> anyone got gadgetfs working on beaglebone black?
Oct 09 07:55:29 <LetoThe2nd> michael___: about everybody who just boots up the default angstrom installation?
Oct 09 07:57:05 <michael___> :) I should be able to modprobe gadgetfs, mount -t gadgetfs none /dev/gadget; then open that file and write descriptors to it
Oct 09 07:57:20 <michael___> however it keeps saying no UDC available which i assume means USB Device Controller
Oct 09 07:57:37 <michael___> i suspect its a bug in the kernel just wondering if anyone else has tried to program via gadgetfs
Oct 09 07:57:56 <michael___> note gadgetfs is the *userspace* driver not the kernel part
Oct 09 07:59:54 <LetoThe2nd> i got nothing to add personally, i just know that when i start a default installed BBB i get the usb storage access :)
Oct 09 08:16:45 <michael___> ok
Oct 09 08:44:30 <av500> LetoThe2nd: that is gadget, but not gadgetfs
Oct 09 08:44:37 <av500> which is one of the gadget protocols
Oct 09 08:44:44 <av500> vvu|Log: didnt you try gadgetfs?
Oct 09 08:45:32 <LetoThe2nd> av500: ok, duly noted.
Oct 09 09:03:00 <vmayoral> hey folks
Oct 09 09:03:22 <dm8tbr> mooo
Oct 09 09:03:37 <LetoThe2nd> määää
Oct 09 09:06:20 <keesj> I am looking into USB support for MINIX. I have looked at the starterware code an wonder how different the XM and BBB will be in that respect
Oct 09 09:06:24 <das> dm8tbr: so technically you have mooed today ?
Oct 09 09:06:54 <dm8tbr> das: I'm in a good moooo today, yes
Oct 09 09:08:09 <anchor> ./.libs/libpng16.so: undefined reference to `png_init_filter_functions_neon'. Do you have any idea?
Oct 09 09:08:42 <LetoThe2nd> anchor: idea - faulty/missing linker flags.
Oct 09 09:09:12 <LetoThe2nd> anchor: idea - wrong lib for the distros arch
Oct 09 09:09:27 <LetoThe2nd> anchor: idea - wrong/faulty cross toolchain
Oct 09 09:09:28 <av500> keesj: EHCI vs MUSB
Oct 09 09:10:10 <keesj> a mm so EHCI will work on more devices
Oct 09 09:10:12 <av500> keesj: of course, XM also has MUSB
Oct 09 09:10:23 <av500> but BBB only has MUSB
Oct 09 09:10:28 <av500> EHCI is kind of standard
Oct 09 09:10:56 <av500> whereas MUSB is not so common and broken differently on different vendors
Oct 09 09:11:08 <av500> but you can have Blackfin support with musb :)
Oct 09 09:11:14 <av500> for ucMinix
Oct 09 09:13:16 <keesj> I only have a few more month working on MINIX 3
Oct 09 09:13:29 <anchor> LetoThe2nd: thank u. I use ELDK . Exceed the previously compiled qt. I look into "faulty/missing linker flags" and "wrong lib for the distros arch".
Oct 09 09:14:54 <keesj> av500: we alreay have some usb support based on ancient Linux and have the interfaces in place. If I can just take a library from somewhere and make it work it might be one of the options
Oct 09 09:15:38 <keesj> I also did look at "ucMinix" but that is just not reacheable
Oct 09 09:16:06 <keesj> goal
Oct 09 09:16:32 <av500> well, no idea if you have EHCI code
Oct 09 09:31:43 <keesj> and the network controller on the XM is attached to the OHCI/EHCI IP block right?
Oct 09 09:37:00 <av500> yes
Oct 09 09:45:58 <testone> hi
Oct 09 09:46:51 <testone> I have a BeagleBone. how much ampere should a 5V-powersupply have maximum?
Oct 09 09:47:50 <av500> as much as you like
Oct 09 09:48:13 <keesj> but no more
Oct 09 09:50:14 <av500> 54A should be enough for everybody
Oct 09 09:51:17 <Fruit> do the bbb serial ports support bit banging?
Oct 09 09:51:57 <SpeedEvil> What do you mean by that.
Oct 09 09:52:13 <Fruit> I want to attach my DS18S20 1w parasite-power thermometer thingies to it
Oct 09 09:52:30 <Fruit> and for that I need to be able to manually switch CTS/DTS on and off
Oct 09 09:52:49 <Fruit> at least that's how it works on a 16550 UART
Oct 09 09:53:25 <av500> why not use a GPIO?
Oct 09 09:53:31 <av500> or the 1W interface of the CPU?
Oct 09 09:53:56 <Fruit> can I access those from usermode?
Oct 09 09:54:05 <Fruit> or do I need to write my own kernel driver for that?
Oct 09 09:54:08 <av500> yes
Oct 09 09:54:09 <av500> usermode
Oct 09 09:54:13 <av500> drivers exist
Oct 09 09:54:48 <Fruit> only problem is that I'd need to rewrite the digitemp program to take advantage of that
Oct 09 09:54:58 <Fruit> the code of which is... hairy
Oct 09 09:55:30 <av500> its just a few lines to change the 1w interface
Oct 09 09:56:49 <Fruit> in digitemp you mean?
Oct 09 09:58:58 <SpeedEvil> There are one-wire libraries that make it painless
Oct 09 09:59:37 <SpeedEvil> Digitemp seems very, very old
Oct 09 10:00:28 <SpeedEvil> http://owfs.org/
Oct 09 10:02:04 <Fruit> interesting
Oct 09 10:02:31 <Fruit> digitemp is just what I used because it worked, but I chose it years ago
Oct 09 10:04:58 <vicky> hi beagle. I am using beaglebone black and i am adding my custom gpio led like userleds . I added everything perfect(gpio pin, offset and trigger) in device tree file.
Oct 09 10:05:26 <vicky> but led is not controlled by led-triggers.
Oct 09 10:06:39 <vicky> i added in gpio1_12 pin. And i made a pulldown setup exact from beaglebone-black schematics(not much good in electronics).
Oct 09 10:07:48 <vicky> But when i changing from pulldown from pullup, the led is on constantly.
Oct 09 10:08:01 <das> why is 3 cursed ?
Oct 09 10:08:33 <das> pentium fdiv ?
Oct 09 10:09:12 <vicky> But whatever trigger(heartbeat, cpu, mmc)  i passed, the led doesn't  response at all.
Oct 09 10:44:07 <vinay__> I have BBB
Oct 09 10:44:41 <vinay__> my friend connected it to windows laptop using vmware
Oct 09 10:45:24 <vinay__> now i am connecting  it to mu ubuntu pc but it is not booting at all power led is on but it is not booting
Oct 09 10:45:45 <vinay__> connection used to show like circuito beagle3bone
Oct 09 10:46:00 <vinay__> but now it shows amd texas instrument
Oct 09 10:46:10 <vinay__> and connection does not work
Oct 09 10:46:18 <vinay__> please help
Oct 09 10:47:09 <vinay__> beaglebone it not booting at all
Oct 09 10:48:58 <vinay__> please help
Oct 09 10:58:10 <LetoThe2nd> if in doubt, try to reflash it.
Oct 09 11:06:27 <vinay__> it not even booting from sd card
Oct 09 11:06:33 <vinay__> it is not booting at a;;
Oct 09 11:06:34 <vinay__> all
Oct 09 11:07:40 <LetoThe2nd> ahve you verified that with a serial cable? if not, do so.
Oct 09 11:08:13 <LetoThe2nd> probably your friend just set it up for tftp booting or such.
Oct 09 11:08:46 <vinay__> it tftp is problem how do i solve it??
Oct 09 11:09:03 <LetoThe2nd> fix the u-boot vars.
Oct 09 11:09:11 <LetoThe2nd> but basically, get a serial cable.
Oct 09 11:09:27 <vinay__> yes i was trying using usb cable only
Oct 09 11:09:39 <vinay__> i did not use ethernet cale
Oct 09 11:09:41 <vinay__> cable
Oct 09 11:09:52 <vinay__> power led is on
Oct 09 11:10:02 <vinay__> but it is not booting
Oct 09 11:10:03 <LetoThe2nd> i will not repeat again. goodday to you sir.
Oct 09 11:10:17 <vinay__> wait
Oct 09 11:10:24 <vinay__> im not very good in linux
Oct 09 11:10:39 <vinay__> please tell me in detail wht to do i will try that
Oct 09 11:10:47 <LetoThe2nd> GET A SERIAL CABLE!!!
Oct 09 11:10:50 * LetoThe2nd is gone
Oct 09 11:41:47 <vvu|Log> av500: tried gadgetfs but failed with some bad error, don`t remember what
Oct 09 11:47:01 <rob_w> anyone around having expierence with the mcasp -> codec connections
Oct 09 11:47:25 <av500> ahoi rob_w
Oct 09 11:47:33 <rob_w> salve av500
Oct 09 11:49:13 <rob_w> i am trying to bring a custom cape to live with a tvl320aic32x4
Oct 09 11:49:52 <rob_w> i do get all registered ... and th i2c connections work and communicate .. but the DIN/DOUT pins aka i2s are silent ,, nor do i get anc CLK up
Oct 09 12:27:48 <das> http://whatthecommit.com/
Oct 09 12:37:00 <Rotti> hi!
Oct 09 12:39:48 <Rotti> have some problems with the hdmi output of a new BBB, no image, but the screen seems to realize there is something connected... `dmesg` is full of [  562.437811] [drm:output_poll_execute], [CONNECTOR:5:HDMI-A-1] status updated from 2 to 2
Oct 09 12:40:56 <av500> pastebin full log
Oct 09 12:40:59 <Rotti> http://pastie.org/8389255
Oct 09 12:41:29 <Rotti> with another BBB, the cable works fine
Oct 09 12:42:38 <av500> so one BBB works and another does not?
Oct 09 12:42:40 <av500> with same SW?
Oct 09 12:43:18 <Rotti> both the stock image... not sure about exact version, the working one was pre-ordered
Oct 09 12:43:27 <Rotti> the other one arrived yesterday
Oct 09 12:48:35 <Rotti> the working one has linux 3.8.6, compiled on apr 13, 09:10:52...
Oct 09 12:49:52 <av500> and the other one?
Oct 09 12:50:39 <Rotti> Linux version 3.8.13 (koen@rrMBP) (gcc version 4.7.3 20130205 (prerelease) (Linaro GCC 4.7-2013.02-01) ) #1 SMP Tue Jun 18 02:11:09 EDT 2013
Oct 09 12:51:30 <Rotti> av500: that's the one from the pastie-link
Oct 09 13:04:02 <Rotti> i'll try to update the software...
Oct 09 13:18:11 <vicash> Hello, does the BBB have an internal Bluetooth chip or do I have to use a USB based Bluetooth dongle ? I see that there is a Bluetooth server process running in the default angstrom install.
Oct 09 13:19:55 <vvu|Log> vicash: it does not have, need external dongle
Oct 09 13:20:27 <vicash> vvu|Log: thanks.
Oct 09 13:41:41 <Synologic> howdy folks
Oct 09 13:42:45 <Synologic> has anyone tried to use 2 i2c ports on bbb with emmc ?
Oct 09 13:47:27 <VirG1> Hello People
Oct 09 13:48:09 <Synologic> hey
Oct 09 13:48:33 <SilicaGel> gnu make 4.0 released.  Why guile.  Why the hell scheme.  Or lisp.  Or anything even remotely like that.  Are they intentionally trying to make it really hard so that only a few people know how to use it, allowing them to be condescending to the rest of humanity?
Oct 09 13:49:33 * SilicaGel slaps N2TOH about a bit with a  6 meter vertical
Oct 09 13:50:01 <N2TOH> ouch! what the hell was that for? lol
Oct 09 13:50:22 <SilicaGel> just acknowledging the presence of another ham
Oct 09 13:51:07 <N2TOH> ah
Oct 09 13:51:40 <N2TOH> so in a few more weeks I will unpack the Heathkit and continue its' restoration
Oct 09 13:52:23 <av500> heath all the kits!
Oct 09 13:53:07 <N2TOH> I have a mechanically complete sb102
Oct 09 13:53:14 <N2TOH> with power supply
Oct 09 13:56:09 <SilicaGel> cool
Oct 09 13:56:48 <SilicaGel> I don't have any HF radio right now.  But I do have a box of nixie tubes on a 0.1" pin grid spacing
Oct 09 14:29:55 <SilicaGel> N2TOH: finish your radio so you can do this  http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/hijuno/
Oct 09 14:32:43 <N2TOH> maybe after this, http://www.polywellnuclearfusion.com/PolywellReactor/Magrid.html
Oct 09 14:37:51 <rob_w> anybody Daniel Nilsson ?
Oct 09 14:45:30 <KotH> most probably
Oct 09 14:47:21 <Rotti> yieha! got the hdmi problem fixed...
Oct 09 14:48:17 <Rotti> the pins of the connector had no connection at all :(
Oct 09 14:48:56 <N2TOH> not soldered, or just an ill fitting plug?
Oct 09 14:50:13 <Rotti> it seems there was a bit of solder beneath them, but they were not connected... it was easy to move them with a needle
Oct 09 14:50:50 <Rotti> it is with the bone i got yesterday, i have another, older one (bone black, too), the pins from the connector seem to be a bit longer
Oct 09 14:52:05 <Rotti> after resoldering all of them, it is now working, finally
Oct 09 14:53:43 <Rotti> i wonder if the devices are being tested before shipping... it seems mine wasn't the only one with that problem...
Oct 09 15:26:56 <av500> Rotti: please report that on the mailing list
Oct 09 15:27:53 <av500> Rotti: ignroe, I'll tell Gerald
Oct 09 15:27:56 <av500> ignore
Oct 09 15:28:02 <Rotti> okay, thanks!
Oct 09 15:30:24 <Rotti> av500: on the older board, there was a bit of epoxy on the connector, but not on the new one... don't know if this is important/relevant...
Oct 09 15:30:33 <av500> they'll know
Oct 09 15:33:08 <Rotti> i'll go home now... thanks again for your help, guys :)
Oct 09 15:36:45 <av500> np
Oct 09 15:36:49 <av500> you did all the work
Oct 09 16:06:33 <Lorenz> Hi, I can't seem to connect to my BBB, by name. Only by IP. Looks like the avahi-daemon.service is running and working as far as i can tell. any ideas?
Oct 09 16:08:35 <Lorenz> systemctl status avahi-daemon.service shows the service is active and running, Logs all look like it is doing its thing.
Oct 09 16:13:04 <Lorenz> http://pastie.org/8389837
Oct 09 16:14:03 <Lorenz> from the BBB i can ping internet address, but not local LAN. From my PC i can ping the BBB by ip, but not hostname. The PC can pin other PCs by name.
Oct 09 16:15:59 <KotH> name resolution with avahi is a bitch
Oct 09 16:16:36 <Lorenz> It is feeling that way
Oct 09 16:16:52 <KotH> if you can get around it _DO_NOT_USE_IT_
Oct 09 16:17:00 <Lorenz> alternatives?
Oct 09 16:17:05 <KotH> standard dhcp with dhcp should be good enough for 99.9% of all usecases
Oct 09 16:17:13 <KotH> er.. standard dhcp with dns updates
Oct 09 16:17:47 <KotH> ie, if you can set up a dhcp and dns server, use that
Oct 09 16:17:49 <Lorenz> well it is certainly using dhcp to get the ipaddress.
Oct 09 16:17:59 <KotH> then set up the dhcp server to update dns
Oct 09 16:18:01 <Lorenz> Im assuming my router will act as a dns server
Oct 09 16:18:42 <Lorenz> the pc certainly gets that. Do i have to do anything to the BBB to make it use the router for dns updates?
Oct 09 16:19:56 <KotH> the bbb does not update the dns
Oct 09 16:20:02 <KotH> it's the dhcp server that updates the dns
Oct 09 16:20:37 <KotH> check your routers manual how to configure that if it does not work out of the box
Oct 09 16:21:12 <Lorenz> i guess i'm just confused a bit. The router obviously is updating the dns for PC host names. Why would it be diffrent for the BBB?
Oct 09 16:21:30 <Lorenz> I base this on the PC being able to ping other PCs by name.
Oct 09 16:21:47 * KotH shrugs
Oct 09 16:21:50 <Fruit> perhaps the BBB does not send a (valid?) hostname with the DHCP request?
Oct 09 16:21:52 <Vaizki> this has nothing to do with BBB
Oct 09 16:22:19 * KotH doesnt mind the ocasional sysadmin question
Oct 09 16:22:20 <Lorenz> I changed my hostname file on the BBB to LorenzBBB1, is that somehow invalid?
Oct 09 16:22:30 * Vaizki is a whiny bitch
Oct 09 16:22:48 <Fruit> sounds legit
Oct 09 16:22:56 <KotH> Lorenz: /[a-z][a-z0-9\-]/
Oct 09 16:23:18 <Fruit> add a * there ;)
Oct 09 16:23:26 <Lorenz> is there a way to verify the BBB is sending the hostname with the DHCP? I'm sure the router setup is bonked... small company with no IT dept.
Oct 09 16:23:31 <KotH> nah.., who needs more than two letters for hostnames ;)(
Oct 09 16:23:34 <KotH> ;)
Oct 09 16:23:38 <Fruit> heh
Oct 09 16:23:41 <KotH> Lorenz: yes, tcpdump
Oct 09 16:23:48 <KotH> Lorenz: ouch
Oct 09 16:23:48 <Vaizki> tcpdump or ngrep
Oct 09 16:23:56 <KotH> Lorenz: change job, or take over the IT dep
Oct 09 16:25:29 <Lorenz> http://pastie.org/8389878
Oct 09 16:26:09 <Lorenz> hmm, that log is less than helpful to me.
Oct 09 16:26:40 <KotH> use wireshark to analyze it :)
Oct 09 16:36:30 <devnn> Anyone got any idea how to enable auto repeat on /dev/input/event0 ? I'm building my own 3.2 kernel.
Oct 09 16:40:30 <Lorenz> So, from the BBB I can't even ping the BBB with the host name. Shoudln't that work regardless of the DHCP/DNS server?
Oct 09 17:10:13 <vinay_> I have beaglebone black and i'm trying to connect it my ubuntu pc using serial cable but it is not booting i.e. none of the user led is glowing, what could be the problem?
Oct 09 17:10:27 <vinay_> please help
Oct 09 17:13:46 <bradfa> oh nose!
Oct 09 17:19:07 <vinay_> please help
Oct 09 17:52:09 <thurgood> vinay_:  are you booting from sd, emmc, which OS, etc
Oct 09 18:21:24 <navaati> hi
Oct 09 18:22:26 <navaati> what does that mean when only the power led of a BBB is lit ? I can't get it to boot anymore, it used to boot fine with the alim i'm using. I'm (well, i was...) booting an archlinux from the eMMC
Oct 09 18:22:54 <navaati> i STFW but couldn't find anything interesting :/
Oct 09 18:23:49 <vxe> navaati: got a ttl transceiver? you can watch if uboot is puking
Oct 09 18:26:53 <navaati> vxe: hum, i don't think, what is it ? maybe i could easily build one
Oct 09 18:28:11 <navaati> vxe: is it like a serial adapter but dealing with ttl levels ?
Oct 09 18:28:22 <vxe> navaati: exactly
Oct 09 18:31:32 <navaati> i may be able to make one using an arduino or some shit, is it really ttl, or 3.3v ? what are the pins on the bbb ? (didn't know it had a console preactivated)
Oct 09 18:33:41 <vxe> hm hm, my transceiver has both 5v and 3.3v power supply and I use 3.3v to be safe
Oct 09 18:33:45 <vxe> not sure if it's 5v tolerant or not
Oct 09 18:53:35 <andedtec> Hello, is anybody using bbb rev a5c?
Oct 09 22:11:51 <gossy> hello
Oct 09 22:12:41 <gossy> Got my BBB yesterday and followed its web page. Run/restore buttons for LED flashing do nothing for me.
Oct 10 01:08:52 <KyleYankan> Hey, just a quick opinion question. can BBB handle running a MySQL instand and something like nginx or apache?
Oct 10 01:09:30 <KyleYankan> I could of googled, but I figured this is the more accurate/more real-world
Oct 10 01:12:17 <SpeedEvil> It depends.
Oct 10 01:12:30 <SpeedEvil> It's not a particularly slow processor.
Oct 10 01:12:45 <SpeedEvil> Storage may be an issue - microSDs can be ridiculously slow.
Oct 10 01:12:53 <SpeedEvil> For small things - sure.
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