**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Oct 22 02:59:58 2013 Oct 22 03:07:37 no? Oct 22 03:10:03 sorry was handling something elsewhere Oct 22 03:10:25 it should take about 45 minutes to flash the angstrom image Oct 22 03:10:32 yep Oct 22 03:11:15 i formated the card to fat file system before installing the image on the micro sd Oct 22 03:12:02 this psu fine for BBB ? http://cpc.farnell.com/powerpax/psk315-05/ac-adaptor-5v-2-5a-regulated/dp/PW02348 Oct 22 03:13:41 mfny: yea depending on what capes and accessories you have attached Oct 22 03:14:31 not planing on hooking it up to much, and trying to order all the BBB stuff from same supplier if i can Oct 22 03:15:06 fascinating Oct 22 03:16:18 prpplague: postage to where i am can get crazy expensive for small items heh Oct 22 03:17:21 prpplague: have been asked to play £40 shipping for a £35 motherboard once Oct 22 03:17:39 ouch Oct 22 03:19:14 also was once quoted £100 shipping on a prebuilt PC, funny thing is im not in the north pole or anything Oct 22 03:21:12 ive been charged 40 to ship a c64 Oct 22 03:21:24 $40 Oct 22 03:23:20 hmmm Oct 22 03:23:34 only 2 out of the 4 leds are lit Oct 22 03:26:40 any ideas? Oct 22 03:27:14 none, other than give it a bit longer :/ Oct 22 03:37:22 flashing the eMMC? you walk the dog if you have one or go watch a movie and then then check on it afterwards Oct 22 03:40:46 for kb/mouse for beagle would one of those 2 in one wireless mini keyboard/trackpad things work ? Oct 22 03:42:17 as long as it's supported by the kernel it should Oct 22 03:43:16 well now i get a angstrom prompt but no gui Oct 22 03:43:26 I use one of those logitech universal's on an old 2.6.32 kernel Oct 22 03:44:01 how do i get the gui from prompt Oct 22 03:44:13 startx Oct 22 03:45:21 this gets mentioned alot for use with the Pi http://www.amazon.co.uk/ProMini-Wireless-Keyboard-TouchPad-Pointer/dp/B003UE52ME/ Oct 22 03:45:37 so i figure it should be ok on BBB ? Oct 22 03:46:18 only one way to know for sure ~.~ Oct 22 03:49:13 found some hits googling for other beagleboards so.. Oct 22 03:52:18 ah, forgot that bbb has only the one USB port .. hm (what is up with this btw ?) Oct 22 03:52:36 use a hub :P Oct 22 03:53:00 whats the bbb comand for gui? Oct 22 03:53:28 they saved money everywhere they could to get the price down where it is Oct 22 03:54:15 thurgood: i know, but the pastry based board manages 2 ports.. just sayin :) Oct 22 03:54:32 heh Oct 22 03:54:56 Does anyone know the BBB gui command? Oct 22 03:55:44 cameron did you try startx... that works with some distros Oct 22 03:56:51 i thought it had gnome and not x Oct 22 03:57:21 gnome is a X-Windows manager Oct 22 03:57:29 cameron__, type "startx" after you log into the BBB Oct 22 03:57:49 if it's installed it should start up Oct 22 04:01:23 bah, ill do the SSH shell thing for the time being, cost mounts up when you add HDMI cables,kb/m and a hub etc Oct 22 04:01:52 too true Oct 22 04:05:45 just got to decide on a home(case) for the BBB, adafruit, phenoptix or Logic Supply Oct 22 04:31:57 well now im not getting any status lights Oct 22 04:32:05 i think i brokje it Oct 22 04:32:20 just power Oct 22 05:01:24 Hi ALL, i am new to BBB i try to load customize image from SD card, i pressed USER/BOOT button, but it allways showing old image version Oct 22 05:02:05 the LEDs glowing reading sd card i waited one hour all four leds are not glowing Oct 22 05:02:30 with this BBB i am not able to do anything for me everything blocking Oct 22 05:02:57 i tried to access analog inputs in P9 header i did not find any help to map those analog inputs Oct 22 05:03:46 please help some one, send me BBB contact for support Oct 22 05:04:42 someone_cares_about_you@bbbsupport.com Oct 22 05:04:53 Oct 22 05:46:05 Guest40422: I suggest starting here: http://hipstercircuits.com/reading-analog-adc-values-on-beaglebone-black/. It is an excellent write up of what you need to do Oct 22 05:52:56 hello all Oct 22 05:53:17 i am facing issue with minicom!!! Oct 22 05:53:34 i am getting some junk texts when i boot the board Oct 22 05:54:38 that's just minicom :P try screen Oct 22 05:55:15 i have set the baud rate as per mentiond Oct 22 05:55:25 even then i found some junk text on screen Oct 22 05:57:00 can any one suggest me in this regard Oct 22 06:03:05 Guest78421 what are you connecting to (beaglebone white/black, XM)? and what is the command you are using ? Oct 22 07:32:32 anyone know if the beagleboard xM has a limitation on the size of sd-cards it can take? Oct 22 07:34:47 anyone know any good libraries for (fast) realtime plotting on the bbb? Oct 22 07:35:12 realtime plotting of what? Oct 22 07:35:22 honestly I don't know of any limiation sdhc should be fully supported Oct 22 07:35:23 adc data interfaced over SPI Oct 22 07:35:24 i think 32G is the limit but im nto sure Oct 22 07:35:40 "not" Oct 22 07:36:16 32GB is the limit of SDHC cards after that they are called sdxc but I never used anyting like that Oct 22 07:36:22 i would say get the SMALLEST sd you can and delete everything from it except /boot Oct 22 07:36:33 make /dev/sda your / Oct 22 07:37:03 is my xm underclocked by default? Oct 22 07:37:09 or is it at its full 1ghz ? Oct 22 07:39:06 I tried python based matplotlib and pyqtgraph but they are turning out to be a bit slow Oct 22 07:41:08 maybe you could just collect on the xm and plot the data somewhere else Oct 22 07:41:21 with some skillz that could even be live plotting Oct 22 07:42:46 ahh but that is not possible in this case.. the BBB is standalone Oct 22 07:42:52 btw I'm using the BBB not the xm Oct 22 07:47:34 mark4: d3js? Oct 22 07:48:28 ? Oct 22 07:53:46 that's really the problem with embedded Linux , there are really to much choices to be made and way to many configurations Oct 22 07:54:01 problem? Oct 22 07:54:12 is hatguy running X or not? Oct 22 07:54:19 if you want opposite, use Windows CE Oct 22 07:55:08 Android also made the big choices for you(I think this is good) Oct 22 07:55:38 yep, but uncertain future Oct 22 07:55:45 it's all so much roll your own and get stuck where no one has gone before :P Oct 22 07:56:19 there are grumblings about google developing a replacement kernel Oct 22 07:56:42 don't know if it's true or not, but if it is, then you can stop relying on android for any direction of embedded linux Oct 22 07:56:58 or no one knows/cares. Oct 22 07:57:32 replace kernel, close it, sounds alright Oct 22 07:57:54 http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920028116.do?sortby=publicationDate (Getting Started with BeagleBone) does a good job at picking some way to do things on the BB Oct 22 07:58:16 ynezz: what do you mean by replace kernel /close it? Oct 22 07:58:42 it's only GPL part in it, isn't it? Oct 22 07:59:01 yes , and the Bluetooth stack and some dbus crap Oct 22 07:59:55 the biggest part of the stack is apache 2.0(very good in my book) Oct 22 08:00:46 the bluetooth stack is no longer GPL Oct 22 08:00:54 bluez has been replaced Oct 22 08:00:56 google would be more likely to replace java than the linux kernel Oct 22 08:01:02 and honestly I think the $currently published sources are good enough to do anything. Oct 22 08:01:11 hopefully not with go Oct 22 08:01:31 and kill the ecosystem? Oct 22 08:01:44 it needs to die Oct 22 08:02:16 I'v been thinking of a MINIX 3/Android system v.s. a MINIX 3/Posix based one Oct 22 08:03:09 what needs to die? Oct 22 08:12:45 Pls advise what OS is supplied laoded in Beagle board when I 1st power up Oct 22 08:13:17 can I run WINCE.. u/stand this OS NOT supplied Oct 22 08:19:47 <_av500_> you can Oct 22 08:19:49 <_av500_> but no help from here Oct 22 08:19:55 <_av500_> talk to Microsoft Oct 22 08:19:58 <_av500_> or a partner Oct 22 08:49:00 Hah, someone has actually ported wince to BBB? Oct 22 08:49:45 http://youtu.be/S2Ttujf6cWU comments: “Can u run steam?” Oct 22 08:58:41 hi! Oct 22 09:00:54 ION: why are they so many people who want to run windows on the bbb? Oct 22 09:01:08 moin Rotti Oct 22 09:01:14 s/ on the bbb// Oct 22 09:02:38 ION: can you write complete sentences please? Oct 22 09:03:07 s/foo/bar/ means “substitute foo with bar” Oct 22 09:05:33 that still doesn't make your prevous sentence make anymore sense Oct 22 09:05:59 “why are they so many people who want to run windows on the bbb?” Oct 22 09:06:04 substitute “ on the bbb” with “” Oct 22 09:06:08 “why are they so many people who want to run windows?” :-P Oct 22 09:07:55 s/// is rather common IRC shorthand in geek circles, inspired by Perl. Oct 22 09:08:13 <_av500_> u dont say Oct 22 09:09:00 is it possible to see the pcm data in oscilloscope at mcasp pins(program written using alsa)? Oct 22 09:09:23 <_av500_> if you have a scope Oct 22 09:09:31 <_av500_> and set it up correctzly yes Oct 22 09:10:47 can you please help me setting up a codec?for you it may be easy to answer.I am just new to this Oct 22 09:11:06 <_av500_> no Oct 22 09:11:12 <_av500_> I would have to research it Oct 22 09:11:41 atleast can you help me to clarify some doubts Oct 22 09:11:48 _av500_: you could always outsource the task to someone in india Oct 22 09:16:46 fasd: don't privmsg people. thanks. Oct 22 09:19:23 I want to send some audio data to tlv320aic3106 using i2s.Can I do this using alsa?my aplay -l returns.. Oct 22 09:19:39 **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices **** card 0: Black [TI BeagleBone Black], device 0: HDMI nxp-hdmi-hifi-0 [] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 Oct 22 09:20:16 start out by disabling the hdmi cape. then look at how the audio capes work for reference. Oct 22 09:21:09 and google for it Oct 22 09:21:24 iirc someone documented how to get i2s running on linux Oct 22 09:21:44 dont remmember whether it was on bbw/bbb or something different Oct 22 09:22:04 <_av500_> also, we discussed that with fasd here before Oct 22 09:22:17 <_av500_> I dont see why we need these deja vu moments Oct 22 09:22:30 we did? Oct 22 09:22:57 hmmm.. well, if he cannot do it himself, he could always outsource it to india Oct 22 09:23:03 <_av500_> it has all happened before and it will all happen again Oct 22 09:23:36 * KotH nods Oct 22 09:23:57 as the buddhists say, life is an endless cylce Oct 22 09:24:45 yes its endless cycle Oct 22 09:25:07 <_av500_> then IRC must be life on fast forward Oct 22 09:25:51 :-) Oct 22 09:26:43 * mranostay trolls on Oct 22 09:27:05 someone say something stupid please :) Oct 22 09:27:25 something stupid Oct 22 09:27:36 <_av500_> something stupid please :) Oct 22 09:27:48 bite me Oct 22 09:27:58 _av500_: that is Oct 22 09:28:00 <_av500_> you win Oct 22 09:28:04 the omnomnom song is now playing in your head, mranostay Oct 22 09:28:14 i suspect koth has rabies Oct 22 09:28:40 mranostay: you really dont want me to bite you Oct 22 09:28:45 mranostay: at least not in public Oct 22 09:28:52 kinky Oct 22 09:55:43 is there any limit on the size of the micro sd card? Oct 22 09:56:00 and should I get a certain type / brand, that works better than others? Oct 22 09:56:18 depends on what you plan to do with it Oct 22 09:57:12 <_av500_> sandisk Oct 22 09:57:17 <_av500_> get a sandisk Oct 22 09:57:18 mainly use it for storage Oct 22 09:57:37 <_av500_> get a sandisk Oct 22 09:57:40 i may put ubuntu on it as well (have not decided since i just got it yesterday) Oct 22 09:57:50 will it work with a 64GB one? Oct 22 09:58:10 Biodragon: works fine here Oct 22 09:58:20 <_av500_> yes Oct 22 10:00:20 thx Oct 22 10:23:38 _av500_: some days ago you told me that there is a MTP utiliy for OSX built on libusb, any link to it ? Oct 22 10:27:58 <_av500_> the google thing Oct 22 10:28:05 <_av500_> its a binary only Oct 22 10:28:34 <_av500_> but there should be other MTP apps for osX I thnik Oct 22 11:21:21 hi there, I was wondering if anyone could help me out to get a cron job working on the BBB with Angstrom ? Oct 22 11:26:03 <_av500_> crontab -e? Oct 22 11:26:57 done that :P Oct 22 11:27:27 added 1 * * * * python /home/root/my_script.py >> cronjob.log Oct 22 11:27:57 cron is hard, let's go shopping! Oct 22 11:28:06 but to no avail :( script does not run (but runs when started in shell) Oct 22 11:28:31 chmod a+x has been done... Oct 22 11:29:11 it's a simple heartbeat broadcast script which has to run every minute Oct 22 11:31:29 is cron running? Oct 22 11:32:46 crond yes Oct 22 11:33:59 whilst doing ps -ax I can see /usr/bin/crond -n Oct 22 11:34:23 sorry should be usr/sbin/crond -n Oct 22 12:06:47 any ideas ? :P Oct 22 12:08:15 tiger79: have you got a #! in your python script Oct 22 12:08:23 maybe the system doesn't know what to do with it Oct 22 12:08:37 ah, sorry I misread your cron, you explicity call python Oct 22 12:09:07 maybe try something simpler, just a simple bash statement to confirm cron is running and working Oct 22 12:09:50 hhmm... that is a good idea... I'll make a simple bash script first see if that one runs every minute Oct 22 12:15:16 hhmm ok now my entry looks like : Oct 22 12:15:31 1 * * * * /home/root/test_bash.sh Oct 22 12:15:49 and what it does is : #!/bin/bash STR="Hello World!" echo $STR Oct 22 12:16:12 should I reboot after saving the crontab -e ? Oct 22 12:16:33 cause it says : crontab:installing new crontab when I ext my editor Oct 22 12:16:43 but no output whatsoever Oct 22 12:16:56 you could restart crond but I don't know if it's needed Oct 22 12:17:11 and where does cron echo to? stdout? syslog? Oct 22 12:17:21 where do yo uexpect chron to output too Oct 22 12:17:35 no idea actually :P Oct 22 12:17:45 just scho the STR Oct 22 12:17:49 *echo Oct 22 12:17:52 maybe a log at best Oct 22 12:18:00 give it an absolute path to a file in which to echo into, that way you can check Oct 22 12:18:41 that would work Oct 22 12:22:41 Hello Guys, I have made my Angstrom image i can boot from the SD card, Any procedure to install it to the eMMC? when i try to umount /dev/mmcblk1p2 it says invalid operation, it formats it using mke2fs but again i cannot untar the .gz into the eMMC. Oct 22 12:22:59 not even with the bash file Oct 22 12:23:13 if I run it seperately then no problem at all Oct 22 12:24:01 tiger what are the permissions on your file? Oct 22 12:24:19 and who's the owner Oct 22 12:24:40 I already did chmod a+x Oct 22 12:25:07 ah, ok Oct 22 12:25:18 really stuck now :( Oct 22 12:25:23 and the file you're writing to? Oct 22 12:25:51 that file is created by the bash script Oct 22 12:26:24 directory permissions? Oct 22 12:26:50 all root Oct 22 12:29:18 Guys? Any Help on the eMMC Installation? Oct 22 12:31:03 Andy_Rz2: have you read the wiki on installing to eMMC? Oct 22 12:32:15 tiger79: try running a script as cron in the same way on your local machine, if that doesn't work either then you're doing something wrong ;) Oct 22 12:32:31 otherwise, cron on the bone is playing up Oct 22 12:37:21 http://www.crashcourse.ca/wiki/index.php/BBB_software_update_process#The_mechanics_of_the_emmc.sh_script This one? Oct 22 12:39:16 Andy_Rz2: http://circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=Updating_The_Software Oct 22 12:42:19 sorry jack I am running Windows on my local machine ;) Oct 22 12:42:42 I'll start up my VM, but thats Ubuntu.. and that doesnt work with crontab right ? Oct 22 12:42:45 nonono, i made my image, its a .tar not an img, that procedure is to install the Entire Image, i need to clean the eMMC (format it) and dump my .tar contents on it Oct 22 12:43:57 tiger79: it should do Oct 22 12:44:06 tiger79: I'm no Ubuntu expert though :) Oct 22 12:44:35 Andy_Rz2: ah, sorry Andy, I'm not sure then. I would examine the script that does the writing to the emmc and try to emulate it but with your customized rootfs Oct 22 12:44:56 :/ ok ima do more digging about, Oct 22 12:46:21 i can see mmcblk1p2 (eMMC) but i cannot unmount it it says invalid argument, when i install from ubuntu to the SD card on my laptop it works well, but now after booting from the beaglebone's SD card umount dosn't do the job >.< Oct 22 12:50:06 Andy_Rz2: what's the exact error? Oct 22 12:50:31 and command you used Oct 22 12:52:18 hhmmm ok, on the ubuntu VM it doesn't work either... Oct 22 12:52:25 seems like the line Oct 22 12:52:50 1 * * * * /home/root/test_bash.sh Oct 22 12:53:01 is not ok in crontab Oct 22 12:54:44 tiger79: and you are wanting your script to execute on the 1st minute of every hour, correct? Oct 22 12:55:10 nope... Oct 22 12:55:13 every minute ??? Oct 22 12:55:22 ah every minute would be all stars Oct 22 12:55:42 a star means every in cron world Oct 22 12:55:51 so every minute, every hour, every day etc... Oct 22 12:56:01 aha ! Oct 22 12:56:03 a number means *only* on that specific number Oct 22 12:56:08 lets see if this changes stuff :P Oct 22 12:56:08 so 1 * * * * * Oct 22 12:56:16 is minute 1 of every hour, every day etc... Oct 22 12:57:00 tiger79: http://kvz.io/blog/2007/07/29/schedule-tasks-on-linux-using-crontab/ Oct 22 12:57:16 that seems to be a generally good guide Oct 22 12:57:28 root@beaglebone:/dev# umount /dev/mmcblk1p2 umount: can't umount /dev/mmcblk1p2: Invalid argument root@beaglebone:/dev# Oct 22 12:57:59 mmcblk1p2 it says is an invalid argument, so i am guessing it dosn't detect it as a drive Oct 22 12:58:20 Andy_Rz2: that's what it sounds like, is the emmc activated in the devicetree? Oct 22 12:58:26 jack u saved me ! :D Oct 22 12:58:37 the VM works now ! :D gonna check on the BBB :D Oct 22 12:58:41 tiger79: no problem, glad I could help. Oct 22 12:59:49 i can spot mmcblk1p in /dev/ Oct 22 13:00:29 so list the devices in dev that start with mmc Oct 22 13:00:30 ok the bash script also works on the BBB now :D now Im gonna try my python script !! Oct 22 13:01:41 mmcblk0 mmcblk0p1 mmcblk0p2 mmcblk1 mmcblk1boot0 mmcblk1boot1 mmcblk1p1 mmcblk1p2 Oct 22 13:01:55 mmcblk0 is the SD card i know for sure Oct 22 13:02:22 and when the os is running from the SD card, mmcblk1 is the eMMC Oct 22 13:06:12 I don't really understand the layout of the eMMC I'm afriad, you need someone more expeirenced with it than me Oct 22 13:06:33 Andy_Rz2: the boot0 and boot1 partitions are weird, especially in addition to the p1/p2 Oct 22 13:06:58 the only thing I can suggest is to look at how it is currently done in the eMMC flash script and copy that Oct 22 13:16:50 tiger79: if it works on the BBB, send a reply to the mailing list stating you got your problem fixed and how you fixed it. Save some people some time. Oct 22 13:50:22 Hello Oct 22 13:50:56 is there anybody here who can help me with a BBB boot issue Oct 22 13:51:17 state your problem Oct 22 13:52:31 When I connect the 5v DC power supply to the BBB, the power light comes on but no others, there is also no video out over HDMI although it seems to be sending something to the monitor as it does not display no signal. I also cannot reprogram the BBB with a uSD card Oct 22 13:54:07 It also won't connect via USB and any combination of pressing/holding the power/reset/boot buttons fixes the issue Oct 22 13:55:16 have you connected a serial cable? Oct 22 13:55:31 no I havent Oct 22 13:55:44 then that's the first thing you want to do Oct 22 13:56:46 i'll give it a go and see what i can do Oct 22 13:56:47 thanks Oct 22 14:15:59 jackmitch|home jack do you know if it's possbile to create my own image of my working BBB and make it emmc-flashable ? Oct 22 14:17:04 tiger79: I'm sure it is, but I don't know how I'm afriad Oct 22 14:17:57 jackmitch|home: hehe ok, well I'll strand the web again :) I have a working setup now, and I have to get it working on 9 other BBB so an image would be a lot easier :P Oct 22 15:04:21 tiger79: You can always do fun things with tarballs. Oct 22 15:04:33 tiger79: Look what they are doing for Arch Linux Arm on the BBB. Oct 22 15:34:44 halp. Oct 22 15:34:57 I am using ARM DS-5 with a beagle board. Oct 22 15:35:18 I'm trying to get the gnometris example application to run with X forwarding to my dev machine. Oct 22 15:35:31 dev machine is ubuntu 13.04, beagle board is ubuntu 12.10 Oct 22 15:36:01 gnometris doesn't even get to main(), it just exits with 1 Oct 22 15:36:13 i'm assuming there is some incompatible lib, but how do I find which it is? Oct 22 15:37:44 everyone who is going to be at ELCE, I will see you all tomorrow/thursday! Oct 22 15:37:51 * jackmitch|home heads off for train Oct 22 15:48:15 honestly: you should have an error message somewhere Oct 22 15:48:42 honestly: and btw: always build your apps with the same build enwironment that build your system Oct 22 15:49:02 there is no error message Oct 22 15:49:10 honestly: otherwise you will end up in a hell of hard to debug errors Oct 22 15:49:17 Wifi issue here, anybody willing to help?? Oct 22 15:49:32 confused: unlikely Oct 22 15:49:53 could i know why? Oct 22 15:49:54 confused: the people who are usualy helping are on vacation, conferences, in china, still asleep Oct 22 15:50:11 confused: and wifi is not really a beagle issue Oct 22 15:50:29 http://paste.ubuntu.com/6283672/ <- gdb Oct 22 15:50:37 atleast could you hear me out once?? Oct 22 15:50:53 more complete gdb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6283673/ Oct 22 15:51:02 if you ask rather than asking to ask.. you might get some traction Oct 22 15:51:04 wifi only works when connected thru a USB cable, anyway to work around this? Oct 22 15:51:26 confused: ok, but you have to speak very loud, i'm two floors below ground level in a weird building in edinburgh Oct 22 15:51:26 confused: more power. Oct 22 15:51:28 When directly connected, it dosent seem to work Oct 22 15:51:37 that's not wifi then Oct 22 15:51:41 confused: lol Oct 22 15:51:44 5v 2A Oct 22 15:51:51 confused: a wifi device uses >1A peak Oct 22 15:51:55 you're talking the ethernet port? Oct 22 15:52:04 confused: if you are supplying it from a usb hub, you get 0.5A max Oct 22 15:52:20 the adapter outputs 5v at 2A Oct 22 15:52:26 as recommended Oct 22 15:52:26 confused: ie, your power collapses as soon as your wifi stick is trying to send anything Oct 22 15:54:00 KotH: I think confused is using a barrel adapter for power Oct 22 15:54:17 no no, when I connect the wifi dongle directly to the BBB, it dosen't work. But, if I use a USB extension cable to connect the dongle, it works!! Oct 22 15:54:27 o_0 Oct 22 15:54:34 I know Oct 22 15:54:35 0_o Oct 22 15:54:36 it sound weird Oct 22 15:54:48 what means "does not work"? Oct 22 15:54:55 googled it, and other ppl havae faced the same issue Oct 22 15:55:56 confused: please explain what problem you see exactly Oct 22 15:56:13 if i were to directly connect the dongle and try connecting thru putty, it dosen't work. But if i connect thru the cable and then run putty, it works Oct 22 15:56:37 do you have any kernl messages? Oct 22 15:56:41 nope Oct 22 15:56:59 correctly recognized by the kernel? Oct 22 15:57:01 the hdmi goes to the screen, so nothing coming up there Oct 22 15:57:15 boots to the dektop as usual Oct 22 15:57:21 type dmesg and check again Oct 22 15:57:41 gimme minute Oct 22 15:57:43 are you using a sipe usb extension cable or a hub? Oct 22 15:57:47 simple Oct 22 15:58:07 confused: kernel logging onto the console can switched off and you dont ge tall messages on hdmi anyways Oct 22 15:58:16 also are you doing any hotplugging? Oct 22 15:58:17 normal usb cable Oct 22 15:58:18 confused: hence, always check the kernel log queue directly Oct 22 16:03:56 ok, I am clueless what to do here. Thanks anyway ppl, I'll see what I can do. Maybe a little more googling will work out. Oct 22 16:04:23 confused: if it works with a cable, it could be that the additional inductance of the cable protects it from power surges Oct 22 16:04:45 confused: it sounds weird, and i cannot say anything for sure without actually seeing error messages or measuring electrically Oct 22 16:04:49 confused: but that would be my guess Oct 22 17:10:27 hi, what is the best BeagleBoard-xM or beagleboard Oct 22 17:10:45 depends on what you want to do. Oct 22 17:10:57 http://beagleboard.org/boards Oct 22 17:12:12 i want a small performant board for monitoring Oct 22 17:17:42 monitoring what? Oct 22 17:57:37 Hi to all !!! Oct 22 17:57:48 I am new in the beaglebone black ... Oct 22 17:58:25 I am interested in programming gpio & analog input outputs , any programming lagunages recomendation ? Oct 22 17:58:39 Python or java ? or c/c++ ? Oct 22 17:59:02 Ubuntu or Armstrong distro ? Oct 22 17:59:05 whatever you like Oct 22 17:59:30 I used to program in arduino .... Oct 22 18:06:09 arocs so its c/c++ Oct 22 18:08:15 Hi. I've just ordered a bealgebone black and I see that it can boot from onboard emmc, microsd or usb. My question is this, can I still use the micro sd even when booting from emmc (e.g. for /home, /usr and /var) ? Oct 22 18:08:56 s/bealgebone/beaglebone/ Oct 22 18:11:35 red-lichtie sure Oct 22 18:13:18 Thanks. That is excellent, I can't wait for it to arrive so I can have a play. Oct 22 20:36:03 hi there, did one of you add a project lately on beageboard.org/projects ? Oct 22 20:47:19 obviously nobody - thanks amd good bye Oct 22 20:48:05 * vagrantc is always amazed at impatience Oct 22 21:12:10 Frack.... PWM is messing up again. Oct 22 21:12:12 do you know how get sound from my beagleboard xm? Oct 22 21:12:16 On the BBB Oct 22 21:12:49 what's the problem jpipe? Oct 22 21:14:42 i can't get sound from my beagleboard by speaker or headphones Oct 22 21:21:17 just checking, but you're plugged into the 'audio_out' jack, right? Oct 22 21:21:39 do you you have alsamixer installed? Oct 22 21:30:49 yes, I plegged in the 'audio_out' jack Oct 22 21:31:01 but that don't work Oct 22 21:34:22 what about alsamixer? Oct 22 21:35:37 that don't work Oct 22 21:36:36 is it installed? Oct 22 21:37:17 that command show me a error: 'cannot open mixer: No such file or directory' Oct 22 21:38:33 have you got internet connectivity on the board? Oct 22 21:38:47 yes Oct 22 21:40:34 are you using angstrom? Oct 22 21:41:04 no, I using ubuntu 12.04 Oct 22 21:42:47 can you run this: sudo apt-get install alsa-utils Oct 22 21:43:13 that will install the alsa mixer if it's missing Oct 22 21:43:58 not sure if audio is a know issue with the xM for your kernel or not... Oct 22 21:45:49 I put the command and alsamixer still don't work Oct 22 21:53:08 hmm... do yo uhave /sys/devices/platform/soc-audio ? Oct 22 21:55:09 I'm used to using angstrom when it comes to arm, so I'm kinda shooting in the dark here Oct 22 22:07:02 do you recommend me use amstrong? Oct 22 22:07:44 I generally recommend using whatever you're comfortable with Oct 22 22:08:16 but if the sound isn't working and you need it, you may want to get another SD and give angstrom a try Oct 22 22:08:59 i really need it Oct 22 22:11:15 does `alsamixer -c 0` turn up anything? Oct 22 22:12:20 I wonder if it's a pulse audio issue rather than the soundcard itself Oct 22 22:12:21 the folder soc-audio don't exist Oct 22 22:14:23 what do you mean with pulse audio issue? Oct 22 22:15:11 ubuntu normally uses pulse audio to mix multiple sound sources Oct 22 22:15:27 pulse audio can be problematic at times though Oct 22 22:15:44 did you try alsamixer -c 0 Oct 22 22:16:15 yeah, but don't work either Oct 22 22:16:18 that should show the underlying hardware rather than pulse's interface Oct 22 22:17:01 'invalid card index' Oct 22 22:18:15 that is the message when I put alsamixer -c 0 Oct 22 22:18:29 ok what about lsmod? Oct 22 22:19:26 something like: lsmod |grep soc Oct 22 22:19:27 what do you want to know? Oct 22 22:19:35 does that show anything? Oct 22 22:20:31 show a lot Oct 22 22:20:54 can you pastebin the results? Oct 22 22:22:22 I'm working in a labtop, so is impossible Oct 22 22:22:56 but what do you know specifically? Oct 22 22:25:06 this may help seems it may be a common issue with xM and 12.04... www.embeddedrelated.com/showarticle/138.php Oct 22 22:32:35 thank you, but the problem is alsamixer Oct 22 22:46:52 * ds2 throws beggin strips around Oct 22 23:08:19 snausages! Oct 22 23:11:24 Hi all,I need to connect my Beaglebone Black to a DVI-D monitor. So I need a Micro HDMI to DVI-D cable. My question is: Do I need a male Micro HDMI or female Micro HDMI cable? Oct 22 23:14:39 fabio_: i belive male Oct 22 23:15:05 yes fabio you need it Oct 22 23:15:30 ds2: itsssss bacon! Oct 22 23:31:23 <|PiP|_> anyone know of a board like the beagleboard black which has hdmi in + wifi? Oct 22 23:31:36 <_av500_> none Oct 22 23:31:39 <_av500_> hdmi in? Oct 22 23:32:56 <|PiP|_> yes Oct 22 23:33:09 <|PiP|_> i want to build a portable dvr Oct 22 23:33:37 <_av500_> good luck Oct 22 23:33:57 <_av500_> what would you do with the full uncompressed HD data if you had hdmi in? Oct 22 23:34:07 <_av500_> .zip it? Oct 22 23:36:22 <|PiP|_> convert it to a lower format Oct 22 23:36:36 <|PiP|_> how does a regular dvr do it? Oct 22 23:36:44 <|PiP|_> or a slingbox Oct 22 23:36:45 <_av500_> with beefy hardware Oct 22 23:36:52 <_av500_> dito Oct 22 23:37:40 <_av500_> but no, no boards with HDMI-in known Oct 22 23:37:48 <_av500_> at least not for small money Oct 22 23:38:09 hapuage and no still not cheap Oct 22 23:39:29 <_av500_> also DVR is a passing fad that passed Oct 22 23:39:33 <_av500_> its all in ze cloud now Oct 22 23:41:33 in other words they moved the DVR into a server colo room Oct 22 23:49:27 don't some of the divinci's have that? Oct 22 23:49:46 davinci's Oct 23 00:19:01 <_av500_> sure Oct 23 00:19:08 <_av500_> on 1k$ EVMs Oct 23 00:19:19 <_av500_> you still need to add hdmi in Oct 23 00:20:08 thought there was HDMI in on one of them Oct 23 00:22:04 even if you get an hdmi capture card lag is often an issue Oct 23 00:22:36 <_av500_> http://www.adafruit.com/products/609#Technical_Details Oct 23 00:22:47 <_av500_> why would it lag? Oct 23 00:23:03 <_av500_> lag does not matter if you record Oct 23 00:23:23 unless you're recording something interactive :P Oct 23 00:24:02 <_av500_> ? Oct 23 00:24:37 interesting for what use are they selling that HDMI in/out box? Oct 23 00:24:44 for instance my boss frequently asks for video directly from our app Oct 23 00:24:47 <_av500_> for now much use Oct 23 00:24:55 <_av500_> you can overlay a UI on top of HDMI Oct 23 00:24:59 <_av500_> for not much use Oct 23 00:25:10 <_av500_> they dont process the video data Oct 23 00:25:13 <_av500_> just exchange parts Oct 23 00:25:20 <_av500_> like a genlock on ye olde amiga Oct 23 00:25:27 <_av500_> same use case Oct 23 00:25:48 that still useful Oct 23 00:26:02 <_av500_> yes Oct 23 00:26:08 <_av500_> but it does not help with recording Oct 23 00:26:35 <_av500_> there is e.g. a Toshiba chip that does hdmi to CSI Oct 23 00:26:44 well I can't say I have seen anything cheap Oct 23 00:26:45 <_av500_> that would work e.g . with the pandaboard or other CSI boards Oct 23 00:27:24 CSI the RED/GREEN/BLUE IE Analog HD? Oct 23 00:27:49 <_av500_> no Oct 23 00:27:53 <_av500_> MIPI CSI Oct 23 00:27:59 <_av500_> camera serial interface Oct 23 00:28:04 ah Oct 23 00:28:27 <_av500_> http://www.ti.com/product/TMS320DM8168 Oct 23 00:28:28 I'm gonna guess that's a studio type propritery standard Oct 23 00:28:46 <_av500_> get the EVm, become $5k HDMI member, buy HDMI in chip and connect Oct 23 00:28:50 <_av500_> solved, next! Oct 23 00:28:57 <_av500_> :) Oct 23 00:29:30 <_av500_> or better, pick a different project Oct 23 00:29:49 <_av500_> http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/hdmi-input-board.html Oct 23 00:29:55 <_av500_> HDMI to LCD controllers Oct 23 00:30:03 http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data_hdpvr2-gaming.html Oct 23 00:30:03 <_av500_> now hook the LCD pins to GPIOs and bitbang it :) Oct 23 00:30:34 ewwwwwwwww MIPI Oct 23 00:30:57 <_av500_> N2TOH: nice Oct 23 00:31:06 looking for $$$ Oct 23 00:31:07 if you drop the need for HDMI and use only DVI... Oct 23 00:31:32 then you might be able to DMA it with GPMC (GPMC on the 3730 supports 32 bits, right?) Oct 23 00:31:38 HD PVR 2 Gaming Edition Oct 23 00:31:38 model 01480 $149.00 Oct 23 00:32:03 <_av500_> ds2: you still have to process the HDMI data Oct 23 00:32:19 <_av500_> e.g. omap4 can encode HD Oct 23 00:32:44 _av500_: if you can reduce HDMI to DVI...then use that inverse of the QFP410 chip to generate parallel data Oct 23 00:32:57 <_av500_> yes Oct 23 00:33:00 <_av500_> understoo Oct 23 00:33:01 run that through GPMC (if it supports 32 bits) Oct 23 00:33:02 <_av500_> d Oct 23 00:33:05 ... Oct 23 00:33:07 speaking of video editing, is there a tool to convert common HD video cameras to motion JPEG or other non compressed format to ease editing? Oct 23 00:33:15 processing is merely pulling pixels out of the mess of bits quickly :D Oct 23 00:33:26 <_av500_> N2TOH: why would you do that? Oct 23 00:33:38 yes, there is a tool. Oct 23 00:33:42 <_av500_> dont they do i-frame only compression anyway? Oct 23 00:33:44 <_av500_> like DV Oct 23 00:33:47 lighting and not having to deal with keyfram locks Oct 23 00:34:22 <_av500_> also you can edit in compressed and just recompress the cuts Oct 23 00:34:30 <_av500_> that been done since years Oct 23 00:34:33 <_av500_> non? Oct 23 00:34:33 no Idea that's why I asked, and it's a selling point for a raw HD camera Oct 23 00:34:45 <_av500_> oh you can get raw Oct 23 00:34:52 <_av500_> broadcasters do that Oct 23 00:35:00 hang on Oct 23 00:37:45 seems kickstarter doesn't want me to see it anymore Oct 23 00:40:12 is it possible for a BBB to access the internet through the USB cable to my laptop? Oct 23 00:40:33 AHA! found it, http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/joedp/the-digital-bolex-the-1st-affordable-digital-cinem Oct 23 00:41:19 yes the BBB can do that with a driver app, or some other type of configuration on your host system **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Oct 23 02:59:58 2013