**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Oct 25 02:59:58 2013 Oct 25 03:38:35 hi there Oct 25 03:38:42 is there anyone? Oct 25 03:50:23 :-* Oct 25 07:40:51 yes anyone was here but he left and no-one is now taking care of business so ask her Oct 25 07:41:32 hmmmh how did that happen.. znc bugs? :P Oct 25 08:26:30 what is the difference between the following two images from ' http://beagleboard.org/latest-images ' ...." Angstrom-Cloud9-IDE-GNOME-eglibc-ipk-v2012.12-beaglebone-2013.06.20.img.xz " and "BBB-eMMC-flasher-2013.06.20.img.xz " ...??? Oct 25 08:27:59 And also why "opkg update " is not working for my BBB ? Oct 25 08:28:43 it is returning ' opkg_download: Failed to download http://feeds.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/v2012.12/ipk/eglibc/armv7a-vfp-neon/debug/Packages.gz, wget returned 1. Oct 25 08:40:15 asdf__: your best bet is probably to ask later, i cant help you but there are more people here from 2pm GMT onwards Oct 25 08:58:13 greetings all Oct 25 08:59:52 mooo Oct 25 09:00:27 hi! Oct 25 09:00:50 greetings Oct 25 09:04:22 which usb kernel driver does the beaglebone black use? Oct 25 09:04:40 i'm running into a unable to initialize libusb: -99 problem currently Oct 25 09:11:39 it seems to be determined not to find the usb port Oct 25 09:20:35 this is starting to make no sense at all Oct 25 09:31:34 Tenkawa: first check if lsusb sees it Oct 25 09:31:54 dm8tbr: thats whata giving the error Oct 25 09:32:18 then you have other problems than the BBB Oct 25 09:32:20 no /dev/bus/usb or /proc/bus/usb when i strace it Oct 25 09:32:34 dm8tbr: yeah i'm worried it fried Oct 25 09:32:52 althougg i am using a custom 3.12 kernel Oct 25 09:33:08 going to boot a 3.8.13-bone kernel in a few inutes Oct 25 09:33:15 er minutes Oct 25 09:34:28 Tenkawa: what is your setup exactly? Oct 25 09:34:44 i was hoping i just missed a kernel setting... worried that might not be the caze Oct 25 09:34:52 dm8tbr: elaborate please Oct 25 09:34:52 because at first it sounded like you wanted to connect to the BBB by USB Oct 25 09:34:57 no no Oct 25 09:35:04 what are you trying to do? Oct 25 09:35:33 its already up and running... just ssh'ed into it (slackware) and it cant see its own usb bus Oct 25 09:36:30 ok.. booting to bone20 Oct 25 09:36:47 * Tenkawa waits and watches the leds go Oct 25 09:40:07 great, my devicetree seems to be all messed up Oct 25 09:44:16 lets see if my last 3.11 kernel can see it Oct 25 09:45:56 ok... something 3.12 kernel specific Oct 25 09:46:01 3.11 sees it fine Oct 25 09:46:32 might need to check your build config then Oct 25 09:47:03 i juat verified i had the musb-hdrc configured in both Oct 25 09:47:09 er just Oct 25 09:47:38 looming om github.. this might be a known problem Oct 25 10:01:10 Can any one please say why ' opkg update ' is not working in BBB ? Oct 25 10:02:18 asdf__: define not working Oct 25 10:03:57 its returning 'opkg_download: Failed to download http://feeds.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/v2012.12/ipk/eglibc/armv7a-vfp-neon/base/Packages.gz, wget returned 1 ' Oct 25 10:04:36 "not working", abrevation for "does not do what i expect it to do, no matter whather i am doing something wrong, illogical or down righ dangerous" Oct 25 10:05:04 does wget to that url work by itself? Oct 25 10:05:23 ie wget "http://feeds.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/v2012.12/ipk/eglibc/armv7a-vfp-neon/base/Packages.gz" Oct 25 10:05:31 asdf__: your network config is wrong or you are not connected to a network Oct 25 10:05:48 iam connected and i can ping Oct 25 10:05:55 asdf__: note: the usb network over windwos _DOES_NOT_WORK_ out of the box Oct 25 10:06:18 asdf__: make sure that command i listed above works Oct 25 10:06:38 if not then you have a network setup problem Oct 25 10:06:47 i just tested that wget fine here Oct 25 10:07:01 it is returning wget: bad address 'feeds.angstrom-distribution.org' Oct 25 10:07:18 asdf__: check /etc/resolv.conf Oct 25 10:07:43 you definitely have a network setup issue on the bbb Oct 25 10:08:06 if it cant even do a nameservice lookup Oct 25 10:08:16 that contains # Generated by Connection Manager nameserver 127.0.0.1 Oct 25 10:08:40 you dont have a dns server defined Oct 25 10:08:49 how to do it Oct 25 10:09:03 you need a nameserver ip.address.entry in the file Oct 25 10:09:08 ie: Oct 25 10:09:25 ie: Oct 25 10:09:35 nameserver 192.168.1.254 Oct 25 10:09:50 change the ip to your dns server Oct 25 10:10:05 then try again Oct 25 10:10:46 definitely i will try like that,but how to know my dns server ip :-( Oct 25 10:10:46 * Tenkawa grumbles at git delta checking Oct 25 10:11:04 sorry for asking so many quwstions,i dont have other way Oct 25 10:11:16 asdf__: check another machine on your network Oct 25 10:11:16 asdf__: get a good bottle of wine and bring it to your sysadmin ;) Oct 25 10:11:29 if it is windows run ipconfig /all Oct 25 10:11:33 asdf__: or, connect the _ethernet_ interface of the bbb to your network Oct 25 10:11:34 KotH :-) Oct 25 10:11:42 asdf__: and let dhcp do the rest Oct 25 10:11:44 and scan through the list for dns servers Oct 25 10:11:52 KotH: bah to dhcp Oct 25 10:12:04 asdf__: as i said before, the usb network connection over windows _does_not_work_ Oct 25 10:12:21 * Tenkawa didnt have dns when he started Oct 25 10:12:22 Tenkawa: for people who dont know anything about networking it's the best solution we have currently Oct 25 10:12:27 KotH: true Oct 25 10:12:46 mind you i started in 1979 Oct 25 10:12:49 heheheh Oct 25 10:13:05 yes i'm ancient Oct 25 10:13:08 mind you, i wasnt even born then ;) Oct 25 10:13:13 haahaa Oct 25 10:14:57 KotH: i wasnt "very" old yet however old enough to remember how "different" computing was back then Oct 25 10:15:23 * Tenkawa grumbles at git more Oct 25 10:15:24 Tenkawa: computing was very different when i started 15y ago Oct 25 10:15:31 KotH: indeed Oct 25 10:15:52 KotH: i miss the late 90's era of computing Oct 25 10:16:00 and youngsters laugh at my way of using unix w/o a desktop environment Oct 25 10:16:13 KotH: cli all the way Oct 25 10:16:15 s/youngsters/babies/ for you ;) Oct 25 10:16:43 KotH: yeah.. most of my coworkers are gui dependant Oct 25 10:16:51 and they are i.t. Oct 25 10:16:59 cli? not really, i use a couple of non-cli applications... most of them are terminal windows ;) Oct 25 10:17:14 KotH: meh.. thats still cli Oct 25 10:17:19 with a frame Oct 25 10:17:21 haahaa Oct 25 10:17:23 *g* Oct 25 10:17:44 i'm using an ipad and issh right now Oct 25 10:17:57 works greatly Oct 25 10:17:59 if you ever want to drive your co-workers crazy, set up a linux the way it would have been in mid/late 90s Oct 25 10:18:13 KotH: noone would be able to login Oct 25 10:18:21 fvwm, no desktop environment, no dbus, etc pp Oct 25 10:18:26 they will hate you :) Oct 25 10:18:36 until i fired up kerberos and/or nis Oct 25 10:18:55 KotH: they already think i'm weird Oct 25 10:19:07 the best people are weird ;) Oct 25 10:19:12 indeed Oct 25 10:19:15 but dont worry, they call me weird to Oct 25 10:19:16 too Oct 25 10:19:24 and i'm a couple of years younger than you are Oct 25 10:19:33 KotH: oh i am... no need to be called it Oct 25 10:19:45 hehe Oct 25 10:19:52 then again... when you started the way i did.... Oct 25 10:20:08 i still miss heathkits and such Oct 25 10:20:12 * KotH nods knowingly Oct 25 10:20:36 thought about buying some stuff from mcm just to build something again Oct 25 10:21:20 * Tenkawa has 2 rapberry-pi's , a beaglebone black, and a quad core freescale i.mx toys Oct 25 10:21:57 now those are fun computing Oct 25 10:22:11 * KotH hands Tenkawa a soldering iron Oct 25 10:22:36 KotH: whats that? *laugh* Oct 25 10:22:50 got 3 of them sitting around Oct 25 10:23:07 If I have an image for the BBB, how do I make it write that image to the eMMC if it is not currently set to? Oct 25 10:23:19 one's even battery powered (crappy unit though) Oct 25 10:23:41 jjc: write it by hand using the mtd tools? Oct 25 10:24:00 oh.. wait.. the emmc is not an mtd device Oct 25 10:24:04 jjc: active system on the mmc currently or blank/broje? Oct 25 10:24:04 dd alone should work Oct 25 10:24:09 er broke Oct 25 10:24:43 its an out the box beagle Oct 25 10:24:51 so its got the default angstrom on it Oct 25 10:25:06 jjc: you should be able to use the standard flashing procedure Oct 25 10:25:27 holding the butt button when applying power? Oct 25 10:25:33 *boot Oct 25 10:25:34 oops Oct 25 10:25:44 i cant remember however its something like that Oct 25 10:26:04 * Tenkawa just recently re-loaded his onto an sd Oct 25 10:26:06 i was under the impression the image needed to be marked as writable Oct 25 10:26:14 or something to that effect Oct 25 10:26:26 * Tenkawa is preparing to start hooking up ssd's again Oct 25 10:26:53 btw... tmpfs is distcc's best friend.. just got to say Oct 25 10:27:54 have a good day a Oct 25 10:28:02 have fun Oct 25 10:28:11 have a good day all.. time to go to work... Oct 25 10:28:15 cheers Oct 25 10:40:57 thanks Koth..its worked Oct 25 11:53:27 Is there anybody here that knows a way of making a custom .img file flashable on a BBB? Oct 25 12:57:22 jjc: don't know for sure, but maybe take an existing one, mount it, apply your changes, umount it? Oct 25 12:58:35 another way could be some black magic with dd, so where to write which partition Oct 25 13:16:17 Rotti ideally it needs to be the same process as flashing the prebuilt images onto the BBB but thank you for your suggestions Oct 25 13:44:47 can anybody explain how to use this to generate an eMMC flasher? https://github.com/beagleboard/meta-beagleboard/blob/master/contrib/bone-flash-tool/emmc-prepare.sh Oct 25 14:50:37 Hi, Anyone here who has experience with BBB and PWM output? Oct 25 14:54:37 hey, is there any way to fix the power failure issue? Ive got the one where you plug in power and the power led blinks and nothign happens Oct 25 14:55:23 I know I can RMA it, but I saw on the google groups boards something about replacing the PMIC Oct 25 16:27:24 Morning. Oct 25 16:50:22 Anyone know where I can get instructions on how to setup QT to cross compile to the bb xm Oct 25 16:52:57 Are the opkg repositories offline for angstrom? Oct 25 16:53:13 I flashed the latest firmware, and now it can't find the opkg repositories. Oct 25 16:56:04 digitalw00t hm Oct 25 16:56:19 digitalw00t what image for what machine? Oct 25 16:56:35 bbb, latest eMMC flash. Oct 25 16:57:17 Get in through the usb ssh, verfiy I have a front end network connection, and try to do opkg update. Oct 25 16:57:30 I hit the url it's trying in my real host and nothing comes up. Oct 25 16:57:31 hm http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/ works Oct 25 16:57:47 btw.. when are we doing to get some windows 8 signed drivers for 64 bit? Oct 25 16:57:55 why? Oct 25 16:58:02 most people using linux Oct 25 16:58:10 signed driver only cost something Oct 25 16:58:23 that would be my point of view Oct 25 16:58:36 but circituo or ti may have some other Oct 25 16:59:00 btw. http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/ works too for me Oct 25 16:59:07 maybee the us mirror has some problems Oct 25 17:02:45 Only want to get the windows drivers going so I can work from any platform, since I have to use both linux and windows. Oct 25 17:03:01 I'll try again.. might be it is having issues. Oct 25 17:05:55 why you need windows too? Oct 25 17:17:05 The place I work is a windows shop, and that's what they give to work on. Oct 25 17:17:33 the opkh in the bbb angstrom is looking at emerald.openembedded.org Oct 25 17:19:00 opkg that is. Oct 25 17:19:13 digitalw00t hm oh never heard of this server Oct 25 17:19:37 digitalw00t but it works here Oct 25 17:20:26 hhmm.. Oct 25 17:20:34 Wonder if it's a firewall at my end. Oct 25 17:21:30 http://140.211.169.179/feeds/v2012.12/ipk/eglibc/armv7a-vfp-neon/base/Packages.gz Oct 25 17:21:39 The feed appears to not be there. Oct 25 17:22:21 So out of the box a bbb can't patch.. interesting. Oct 25 17:22:27 digitalw00t okay use www.angstrom-distribution.org than Oct 25 17:23:52 Hi guys, how can I get APIs document of beaglebone black Oct 25 17:29:53 meng_ what excatly? Oct 25 17:30:03 hardware software? Oct 25 17:30:09 linux kernel? Oct 25 17:30:59 zeppy! Oct 25 17:31:16 ha,wrong channel Oct 25 17:31:21 * mdp naps again Oct 25 17:31:32 mdp haha Oct 25 17:31:46 hi jackmitchell Oct 25 17:34:03 Hi woglinde, I want the doc of APIs for c++ programming. Then I can program c++ to control the board Oct 25 17:34:52 I cannot find any offical doc about it Oct 25 17:34:53 woglinde: mental note.. change all opkg feeds to us.* to what is in there. The default feeds don't work. :/ Oct 25 17:36:19 meng_ bbb has g++ Oct 25 17:36:44 if follows mostly posix standard and has some gnu extensions Oct 25 17:36:50 at least for the c part Oct 25 17:37:25 meng_ more you will find here http://gcc.gnu.org/ Oct 25 17:39:08 Yes I used their g++. But under sys/class file, how do I know what does each file do? How can I write into them to control the board? Oct 25 17:39:27 /sys comes from linux kernel Oct 25 17:41:35 OK I see. So I just need to go for some linux docs to find out how to use it Oct 25 17:41:41 meng_ you have to read the linux source code to understand all files under /sys Oct 25 17:41:53 some are generic some are board specific Oct 25 17:42:04 sure Oct 25 17:42:24 linux folder has one big dir named Documentation Oct 25 17:42:31 source code folder Oct 25 17:43:04 OK I see. Are files under /sys only files that I need to work with to control beagleboard? Oct 25 18:11:24 meng_ depends what you want Oct 25 18:19:09 Hi all Oct 25 18:19:38 people, how I install python 3.3 on bbb/Angstrom v2012.12? Oct 25 18:20:22 plm you cannt Oct 25 18:20:34 with packagemanagment Oct 25 18:20:40 because there are no packages Oct 25 18:20:45 you need to compile it yourself Oct 25 18:21:27 woglinde: just get from python.org and compile will works? I need 3.3 becouse I need to use can, and support for can is just 3.3 Oct 25 18:24:51 plm I do not know if python.org has precompiled packages for arm Oct 25 20:13:09 *sigh* damn musb Oct 25 20:13:58 Does anyone know how I can move files over from my beaglebone black to a usb stick? Oct 25 20:14:41 my BBB has suddenly stopped working and it does not boot anymore. When I plug the power in the power led lits for an instant then nothing happens. what do u think might have been gone wrong? Oct 25 20:15:21 I have tried both the usb and the power adapter, the result is the same Oct 25 20:17:08 TrevizeDaneel1 serial console and boot from sdcard if you do not get output try to RMA it Oct 25 20:19:42 but the led lights fon an instant an then goes off Oct 25 20:19:57 looks like the board is not powered Oct 25 20:23:46 I think I'll have ti file a RMA for it :'( Oct 25 20:39:17 Hi Oct 25 20:39:40 Can beabglebone or beagleboard be used for a kiosk machine Oct 25 20:41:09 cracker yes I think so Oct 25 20:41:55 woglinde, found the bug that was causing me all that grief, now im on to the next one which basically means unit testing all my primitives Oct 25 20:42:26 mark4 whats was the bug Oct 25 20:42:28 the forth kernel now runs but some of the primitives dont work the way they are supposed to so it still crashes. this is an EASY bug to fix because i know exactly how every single primitive is SUPPOSED to work Oct 25 20:42:38 thats what I am intrested in Oct 25 20:42:59 the code was doing some VERY complex data manipulation, i would have to explain some details about how forth works in order for it to make sense Oct 25 20:43:16 hm okay Oct 25 20:43:25 I am glad for you you worked it out Oct 25 20:43:31 there wwere actually two bugs but one was a "i need to point to this address -4" when i really needed to NOT subtract 4 from the address lol Oct 25 20:43:45 haha Oct 25 20:43:51 there would have been no way for me to find that bug other than SEEING exactly what data got moved to where Oct 25 20:44:01 yes Oct 25 20:44:20 im doing a structure relocation. i had a register that pointed to the first structure to relocate Oct 25 20:44:26 and one that pointed to the last one Oct 25 20:44:38 woglinde,which specifc board would help ,BeagleBone or BeagleBoard XM ? Also which OS would be best and how should I develop the UI ,I mean the framework.Thanks Oct 25 20:45:08 i fetched the address of the last one and subtracted 4 to point to the end address. i keep relocating structures till source pointer = end pointer. it never equaled because of the errant -4 Oct 25 20:45:20 there was another bug in there but its difficult to explain Oct 25 20:45:22 cracker you would more get out from beagle xm Oct 25 20:45:41 the xm is a more powerful board Oct 25 20:45:49 <3 xm lol Oct 25 20:46:04 cracker ui you should use the one you are familiar with Oct 25 20:46:19 qt or gtk or even android Oct 25 20:46:38 or javafx with latest oracle 8 jdk Oct 25 20:46:39 Ok is android support stable on beaglebone Oct 25 20:46:49 o.O Oct 25 20:47:00 bone will not work good as kiosk Oct 25 20:47:16 :-) Oct 25 20:47:27 Any advise on which board helps me on that Oct 25 20:47:32 cracker what do you need android support for specifically? Oct 25 20:47:39 I need to create a kisok which has an lcd Oct 25 20:47:50 do you intend to do an embedded android product or use an embedded arm to do android development. Oct 25 20:47:57 if the latter just ebay an old phone. Oct 25 20:49:34 The kiosk has and lcd and there will be 10-15 screens and each interaction on the screen speaks with a central server.I need to decide on a dev board which is apt for this requirement.I dont have any restrictions as such. Oct 25 20:49:39 *sigh Oct 25 20:49:50 aha Oct 25 20:49:54 hang on Oct 25 20:49:56 skaomans latest stuff for beagle and overo does not have ext4 support Oct 25 20:50:06 but its from last december Oct 25 20:50:24 I hope damn musb otg and g_ether will work with it Oct 25 20:50:36 http://www.embeddedarm.com/products/board-detail.php?product=TS-8700-4710# Oct 25 20:51:03 thats more powerful than the beagle but costs more too Oct 25 20:51:12 that was my primary choice before discovering the xm Oct 25 20:51:18 went with the xm because of price Oct 25 20:52:02 oh i dont see android support listed... you might have to work for that. im not sure Oct 25 20:53:10 ok thanks.What about Arduino and RaspBerry PI.Are they more suited for hobby or educational projects.You have any idea about FriendlyArm boards. Oct 25 20:54:29 I work on Java .But ther's nothing like Andorid should be supported.I can learn other frameworks like qt etc.Might be if I use Android,it would help in longer run. Oct 25 20:54:42 hm intressting never heard of the pxa 168 before Oct 25 20:54:48 its out since 2009 Oct 25 20:55:31 cracker the friendlyarm boards have not seen many love in kernel lands Oct 25 20:56:30 cracker you can even use java directly Oct 25 20:56:47 angstroem/oe support comes from me Oct 25 20:56:56 or using ubuntu which has arm debs too Oct 25 20:57:17 or as I said using latest oracle 8 jdk made for rpi Oct 25 20:57:34 it has javafx support too, when you want to make a nice looking gui Oct 25 20:57:43 awt and swing is so ugly Oct 25 20:57:57 the pi is awesome, the only thing i can say about the pi thats negative is its performance and the fact that its flash card connector is very brittle, i know, i b0rked mine and need to replace that component lol Oct 25 20:58:24 mark4 usb is unsuable under higher loads Oct 25 20:58:38 woglinde, on the pi? Oct 25 20:59:02 it only has usb2, for heavy loads yu should be using the eth methinks Oct 25 20:59:07 if it had usb3 that wuld be diff Oct 25 21:00:27 mark4 yes on the pi Oct 25 21:00:37 o.O Oct 25 21:00:43 the eth is connected via usb Oct 25 21:02:30 ok.javafx and rpi .Would rpi support memory requirement for rich UI Oct 25 21:04:04 o.O? Oct 25 21:04:37 cracker you can use the jdk for rpi on most other boards too Oct 25 21:06:31 and if you do not make the board mobile you do not have to pay the 0.60 cent royaltie fee Oct 25 21:06:39 yo crofton Oct 25 21:15:14 woglinde rpi uses http://www.broadcom.com/products/BCM2835 and which is a processor with good speed 700Mhz.Not sure then why its called a micro controller project board Oct 25 21:15:51 Arduino looks more like a micro controller with just a max of 30 kb memory and which would not suit a kiosk Oct 25 21:18:55 cracker mru calls the rpi soc an engenerrig test soc Oct 25 21:20:42 mark woglinde Thanks a lot guyz 4 ur time.Will try to check the features of pi more and will reach out. Oct 25 21:49:00 xo Oct 25 21:49:08 XorA ping Oct 25 21:50:17 hi prp_plague Oct 25 22:00:50 woglinde greetings Oct 25 22:14:38 Does anyone here know where I can find a table of the magic addresses for GPIO under PRU -- e.g. where did 0x4804c000 come from in #define GPIO1 0x4804c000 Oct 25 22:15:12 I've looked a the PRU reference manual and couldn't find it - someone point me to the right document. Oct 25 22:16:18 I would search for substrings - for example C000 and 804C Oct 25 22:16:26 * SpeedEvil hasn't looked into it yet. Oct 25 22:16:39 It may well not be related to the PRU, but the underlying chip Oct 25 22:17:14 SpeedEvil: tried the full address, got nothing, I'm trying the substrings now Oct 25 22:17:56 SpeedEvil: nada... my googlefu is failing still. Oct 25 22:18:29 FWIW, I'm working off the code from http://blog.boxysean.com/2012/08/12/first-steps-with-the-beaglebone-pru/ Oct 25 22:18:31 I would like to help you, unfortunately, learning about PRUs is one of the things on my stack. Oct 25 22:18:41 Shortly after 'buy beagle' Oct 25 22:18:47 And well after 'install windows' Oct 25 22:18:51 SpeedEvil: lol!! Oct 25 22:18:57 (the things that stop rain coming in my kitchen) Oct 25 22:26:46 ptan: http://www.ti.com/lit/ug/spruh73i/spruh73i.pdf Oct 25 22:28:03 Vaizki: Thanks! Oct 25 22:29:01 and yes I know you're getting past 150 pages even reading the table of contents ;) Oct 25 22:29:20 Read This First is on page 162 Oct 25 22:30:50 good nite Oct 25 22:33:52 Vaizki: Wow, that is a large manual! Oct 25 22:36:39 well it has a lot of stuff in it Oct 25 22:37:11 including the whole memory map Oct 25 22:40:37 I've got a BeagleBone Black. I'm connected to it via SSH. I'm trying to expand the storage using a microSD card using the directions here: http://circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=MicroSD_As_Extra_Storage (without success so far).... any pointers? Oct 25 22:40:45 ptan: and haha there's a link on the page you posted here .. to the manual Oct 25 22:41:50 Vaizki: Yeah, I think I already tried looking through this manual before and I just got lost in it... I still can't find the memory map though, but I'll keep looking through it. Oct 25 22:42:39 ptan: ok wtf it starts at page 168 Oct 25 22:43:23 I don't have access to the GUI specified on the page; however, I've formatted the microSD card as FAT and placed the specified text file onto it, per the directions. Oct 25 22:43:48 Vaizki: Ok, I'm just blind then -- I keep looking at the GPIO section!! Thanks! Oct 25 22:44:02 attempting to power up the BeagleBone Black with the microSD card inserted seems to prevent it from properly booting. Oct 25 22:44:19 the gpio section tells you how to use those registers but the memory map tells you where the register is Oct 25 22:44:54 mistachkin: I think you have to finetune your uEnv.txt to get it to boot from eMMC even with SD attached Oct 25 22:45:03 ok, good tip Oct 25 22:45:05 do you have a usb console cabble Oct 25 22:45:13 yes, but my OS is Win 7 and it won't work Oct 25 22:45:14 Vaizki: Yeah, I'm just the silly one to think that the memory addresses would be in the GPIO section! At least now, it's starting to make sense! Oct 25 22:45:16 tried it last night Oct 25 22:45:36 well I wouldn't mess about with uEnv.txt unless you have a working console connection Oct 25 22:46:03 but that is not a prerequisite for making it work, I assume? Oct 25 22:46:09 ptan: if I remember correctly there are 4 GPIO blocks, each one with registers for 32 pins Oct 25 22:46:26 mistachkin: no, but typo something and it won't boot Oct 25 22:46:45 is there a man page for the format of the uDev.txt file? Oct 25 22:46:53 to indicate which directives are supported, etc. Oct 25 22:46:54 not really Oct 25 22:47:22 well, I suppose I can fallback to my rubber chicken. Oct 25 22:48:03 Vaizki: Thanks! Found the addresses I needed to generalize my PRU GPIO code to pulse any GPIO Oct 25 22:49:04 there's http://www.denx.de/wiki/DULG/Manual of course for uboot (which read uEnv.txt) Oct 25 22:49:41 ptan: :) Oct 25 22:49:54 I think the problem with some stock uEnv.txt:s is that even if the bootloader (MLO + uboot) come off the eMMC, the uEnv.txt is written so that it will try to load the kernel from a uSD card if one is present Oct 25 22:50:13 proably easiest is to google for the magic uEnv.txt fu Oct 25 22:50:41 okay, this is going to sound very silly, but i can't seem to find 'make' anywhere in my path. I'm running Angstrom 3.8.13 . ultimately i need to get the FFMPEG package somehow. Oct 25 22:51:02 im completley new to BBB and to linux for that matter Oct 25 22:52:51 Vaizki: thanks... Oct 25 23:01:02 anyone? Oct 25 23:02:33 yasirk why do you need ffmpeg on the beagle? Oct 25 23:02:48 couldn't you use mplayer? Oct 25 23:04:41 Anything would work for the time being, do i use opkg to install mplayer? Oct 25 23:05:49 okay, tried opkg install mplayer and it failed. libxext6 is not available Oct 25 23:07:34 ...and it needs libpng12-0 which opkg can't find either. Oct 25 23:08:41 Sounds like i'm missing some tools/libraries on my install? FYI, i flashed eMMC using the latest Angstrom build by following the BBB instructions on setup Oct 25 23:09:02 strange, it's on my BBB, can't remember having installed it myself Oct 25 23:09:39 when i type gcc or make on my console, it doesn't have those in path either. :( Oct 25 23:09:55 i've already done an opkg update and opkg upgrade Oct 25 23:13:04 I googled this one: http://radarcape.bplaced.net/wiki/doku.php?id=radarcapeapplicationdevelopment#gcc_and_tools_installation_on_beaglebone Oct 25 23:17:23 Still didn't work--gc-dev didn't install either. Is this a symptom of a corrupted eMMC flash by any chance ? Oct 25 23:19:56 OxFFCO, thanks for the help though, i have a new path to try Oct 25 23:20:09 got to turn in for the night, will post back if i make progress. Thanks again. Oct 25 23:21:09 ok, good luck, Oct 25 23:21:44 I think task-native-sdk is the meta dev package that you want Oct 25 23:27:44 "task-native-sdk" read that somewhere else too. Oct 25 23:40:38 when booting ubuntu on BBB from an SDcard, the USB connection to laptop doesn't work anymore ... any ideas how to re-enable this? Oct 25 23:44:24 how do i flash an microsd image to the eMMC. The image is not a flasher image and runs and boots fine form microSD. what is the procedure using SSH. Oct 25 23:45:17 https://github.com/slayersoft/MineNinja Oct 25 23:47:32 the link i put in here is the project running right now off the microSD card. I just cant figure out how to move it to my eMMC. the user button procedure does not work, yet I did user button procedure on it before but that image was official flasher image. Oct 25 23:48:49 maybe you can use tar ... it should preserve all the links Oct 25 23:50:20 here is their instructions: Copy the image file to a microSD car Boot the BeagleBone with the "user" button depressed and the microSD inserted. With the BeagleBone running from the microSD you can now safely flash the eMMc. From your desktop machine you can use a command like this: xz -cd mineninjaBBB.img.xz | ssh root@mineninja.local 'dd of=/dev/mmcblk1 bs=1M' Oct 25 23:51:48 the thing is, i got the image downloaded as xz and decompressed it into the .img file, then properly flashed my sdcard, then put in my bbb and it ran, but it wont flash over to the eMMC. Oct 25 23:55:21 both the eMMC and the microSD card have duplicate angstrom versions on it, its just that the one on the microSD is the built version. I need to like just copy over everything to the eMMC logically and it should work. Oct 26 00:00:29 He has all the instructions to build from scratch but im a newb. i dont know what he figures I should know to do that. Oct 26 01:17:20 hogsBBB still there? Oct 26 01:25:01 im still here Oct 26 01:38:11 can you login your beagle with : ssh root@mineninja.local ? Oct 26 01:38:41 (without the question mark) Oct 26 01:43:13 i dont do it that way Oct 26 01:43:38 i load up putty, put in the beaglebone ip address port 22, and connect. login root, no pass and i got the # Oct 26 01:44:38 i can ls anything on the sdcard Oct 26 01:45:50 I think ninja assumes youre in a linux terminal on your desktop/laptop Oct 26 01:46:24 then that line should work, it copies the img from your local machine to the BBB Oct 26 01:46:36 sure i figured so. wondering if once im in there i just do this without the '' 'dd of=/dev/mmcblk1 bs=1M Oct 26 01:47:15 ok i see so ill probably have to run a virtual machine of debian or something. Oct 26 01:48:19 with that dd part you do the copy Oct 26 01:49:50 ok and the of=/dev/mmcblk1 bs=1m is basically the eMMC on the bbb? Oct 26 01:51:04 yes of = output file /dev/mmcblk1 is eMMC and bs, Block Size 1 Mb ( last bit i am not sure) Oct 26 01:51:50 ssh is secure shell, an advanced kind of putty Oct 26 01:52:15 so do i do the decompress of the .img.xz first which makes a folder and puts the new .img file in it? Oct 26 01:53:36 i think what i did was i flashed the microSD card to be bootable. i should have just copied the zx file to it and ran the whole command like it says in linux: Oct 26 01:53:38 xz -cd mineninjaBBB.img.xz | ssh root@mineninja.local 'dd of=/dev/mmcblk1 bs=1M' Oct 26 01:54:17