**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Nov 06 02:59:58 2013
Nov 06 03:55:06 <qrohlf> Hello! My BBB is locking up and becoming unresponsive to ssh when I run an IO-intensive program on it. I don't have a ton of experience in these matters, but here's a syslog: http://pastebin.com/r2gpZkxV. The "heartbeat" is still flashing, but my ssh session dies and I can't reconnect, and a webserver that the box is supposed to be running as well stops connecting.
Nov 06 04:12:12 <link-pp> I am trying to get wifi working (D-Link DWA-121 Pico USB adapter) and followed the guide at Circuitco (http://circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=WiFi).  However, ifconfig does not show the wlan0 interface being active nor does the actual USB dongle light up.  "lsusb" shows that the DLink adapter is there ("Bus 001 Device 002: ID 2001:3308 D-Link Corp. DWA-121 802.11n Wireless N 150 Pico Adapter [Realtek RTL8188CUS]").  Any hints?
Nov 06 04:23:03 <rags> hello all
Nov 06 05:38:17 <router> how do I trace boot kernel problem?
Nov 06 05:38:25 <router> device 0x14ecae8 has devpath '/devices/platform/omap/usbhs_omap/ehci-omap.[   13.464233] Internal error: Oops - undefined instruction: 0 [#1]
Nov 06 05:38:25 <router> [   13.471405] Modules linked in:
Nov 06 05:38:25 <router> [   13.474578] CPU: 0    Not tainted  (3.3.7 #54)
Nov 06 05:38:25 <router> [   13.479217] PC is at 0xdeb51074
Nov 06 05:38:25 <router> [   13.482482] LR is at sysfs_write_file+0x100/0x148
Nov 06 05:39:23 <router> router123
Nov 06 05:44:27 <Nate_> Nickserv drake
Nov 06 05:45:39 <drake_> hey i am using a hdmi converter
Nov 06 05:45:56 <drake_> and i am connecting it to the monitor with hd
Nov 06 05:46:08 <drake_> put its 720p not the 1080p
Nov 06 05:46:12 <drake_> so will it work
Nov 06 05:46:24 <drake_> or do i need to connect it to the monitor with 1080p
Nov 06 05:46:25 <drake_> ?
Nov 06 05:51:26 <ds2> if the EDID is sane, it should work
Nov 06 05:51:39 <ds2> this assumes you are referring to a BBB
Nov 06 05:51:44 <ds2> not the BBW or BBC or BBX
Nov 06 06:28:42 <drake_> can i install python library on debian
Nov 06 06:28:44 <drake_> ??
Nov 06 06:28:49 <drake_> will it work
Nov 06 06:36:50 <ds2> can you?
Nov 06 06:41:30 <emeb_mac> yo ds2
Nov 06 06:42:33 <ds2> ?
Nov 06 06:42:56 <mark4> ok so i was building my forth compiler with -march=armv6 but on a whim decided to try armv7.  i get lots of errors about attempting to use arm opcodes on a thumb only device
Nov 06 06:43:02 <mark4> err armv7 isnt thumb only is it?
Nov 06 06:43:03 <mark4> wtf?
Nov 06 06:44:09 <ds2> depends on device
Nov 06 06:44:16 <ds2> cortex-m is v7 and thumb only
Nov 06 06:44:33 <mark4> yea i didnt say anything about coretex anything
Nov 06 06:44:40 <mark4> so its defaulting to m ?
Nov 06 06:45:40 <mark4> how do i tell it im building for an a7 ?
Nov 06 06:46:25 <ds2> do you have a mcpu or like?
Nov 06 06:46:44 <mark4> no and ive no idea which ones are supported :)
Nov 06 06:46:56 <mark4> how can i get a list of all supported -mcpu and =march ?
Nov 06 06:47:43 <mark4> and this is not with g++ but with gnu as
Nov 06 06:47:45 <mark4> assembler not c
Nov 06 06:51:40 <mark4> ?
Nov 06 07:13:40 <ds2> donno
Nov 06 07:13:46 <ds2> it depends on how you built it
Nov 06 07:14:20 <mark4> i mean what -mcpu would give -march=armv7 full arm opcodes?
Nov 06 07:14:42 <mark4> i.e. how do i tell it im using an A cortex not an M ?
Nov 06 07:16:35 <JetForMe> Hi. My Angstrom BeagleBoneBlack seems to lose its ability to DNS lookups while I'm updating packages. Any ideas why? If I reboot, it fixes itself.
Nov 06 07:20:22 <jpfau> mark4: I think -mcpu=cortex-a8 is a valid thing
Nov 06 07:20:35 <jpfau> I'm pretty sure I use that when compiling for BBB
Nov 06 07:21:06 <mark4> ty let me try that :)
Nov 06 07:23:39 <mark4> yea that seems to have worked tyvm
Nov 06 07:52:39 <bud> I forgot my password. Is there anyway to reset it?
Nov 06 07:53:09 <KotH> the same ways as with every linux
Nov 06 09:08:19 <bud> i am using putty and can't connect to my beagleboard due to forgetting my password. Root and username. can someone point me in the right direction
Nov 06 09:11:21 <das> change the ssh startup script to accept empty passwords ?
Nov 06 09:14:46 <fra> hello
Nov 06 09:15:28 <fra> I have a BBB
Nov 06 09:17:22 <fra> because my BBB performs a startup in a graphical environment_
Nov 06 09:20:49 <bud> how would I do that? I tried to 'bypass authorization entirely' but it won't conntect
Nov 06 09:22:04 <bud> i get 'server unexpectedly closed network location'
Nov 06 09:23:54 <fra> how to stop the log in the terminal mode_
Nov 06 09:34:13 <dm8tbr> fra: what are you trying to do?
Nov 06 09:35:46 <dm8tbr> bud: you need to mount the SD card and edit the /etc/shadow or /etc/passwd file
Nov 06 09:36:50 <fra> I need to work with angstrom, not with graphical environment
Nov 06 09:36:56 <woglinde> fra kill the getty
Nov 06 09:37:29 <fra> getty is demo by beagleboard org_
Nov 06 09:37:34 <woglinde> ?
Nov 06 09:37:46 <woglinde> getty is for showing text on consoles
Nov 06 09:37:52 <fra> getty is a process
Nov 06 09:37:58 <woglinde> yes
Nov 06 09:38:04 <woglinde> thats what I said
Nov 06 09:38:08 <bud> I have bbb
Nov 06 09:38:17 <woglinde> if you want login on serial console, kill it
Nov 06 09:40:16 <fra> In all video, by derek molloy, I not view graphical environment, but only terminal console
Nov 06 09:40:29 <XorA> bud: add init=/bin/sh to kernel command like, use passwd to "fix" passwords, undo
Nov 06 09:40:38 <fra> If I kill getty, realize this_
Nov 06 09:40:45 <XorA> bud: that way you get a root shell with no login
Nov 06 09:41:21 <dm8tbr> XorA: only on serial console though?
Nov 06 09:41:56 <XorA> dm8tbr: or any graphical console with hardware keyboard
Nov 06 09:43:09 <bud> I have a lot to learn so I apologize for my lack of knowledge but where do I type this? Putty is asking for a username...
Nov 06 09:43:35 <XorA> bud: if that was all gibberish to you Im afraid re-flash is going to be your solution
Nov 06 09:44:15 <fra> I have update with ultimate BeagleBone Black (eMMC flasher)
Nov 06 09:45:01 <fra> after the boot, my board not terminatet in terminal mode, but graphical environment, why
Nov 06 09:46:19 <dm8tbr> fra: disable the graphical session in systemd settings
Nov 06 09:47:03 <bud> i feel really dumb but can you point me in the direction on how to reflash?
Nov 06 09:47:13 <fra> ok, tanks, I try
Nov 06 09:47:16 <dm8tbr> fra: you might need to enable a tty at the same time to get a terminal
Nov 06 09:47:26 <dm8tbr> bud: which distribution are you running currently?
Nov 06 09:47:45 <bud> beaglebone black
Nov 06 09:47:58 <eggzeck> thats not a distro
Nov 06 09:48:06 <eggzeck> that's*
Nov 06 09:48:18 <eggzeck> bud: He meant yoru Linux flavor
Nov 06 09:48:18 <dm8tbr> bud: which _operating_ _system_ _distribution_ - e.g. angstrom, debian, ubuntu
Nov 06 09:48:28 <bud> angstrom
Nov 06 09:48:45 <dm8tbr> then get the latest flasher and reflash your board
Nov 06 09:49:57 <bud> I was told specifically not to compress the image on the sd card. Will this require me to do that?
Nov 06 09:50:02 <eggzeck> bud: Are you sure you changed the root password?
Nov 06 09:50:20 <eggzeck> bud: It's empty by default.
Nov 06 09:50:23 <bud> pretty sure. Default is blank, correct
Nov 06 09:50:37 <bud> yes I changed it unfortunately
Nov 06 09:50:47 <dm8tbr> are you running from SD card or from eMMC?
Nov 06 09:51:18 <bud> eMMC? I have it connected via usb
Nov 06 09:51:55 <bud> I believe the flash card is built into the bbb?
Nov 06 09:51:57 <dm8tbr> is there a micro-SD card inserted into your BBB?
Nov 06 09:52:00 <fra> dm8tbr: this graphical environment is?
Nov 06 09:52:31 <bud> no there is not
Nov 06 09:52:41 <fra> bud: http://beagleboard.org/latest-images
Nov 06 09:53:09 <dm8tbr> or here http://downloads.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beaglebone/
Nov 06 09:53:53 <fra> ad flash    with: Angstrom Distribution (BeagleBone Black - 2GB eMMC)
Nov 06 09:54:59 <torque> if you don't want to flash the emmc you can boot from sd card and mount the emmc and edit /etc/shadow manually
Nov 06 09:55:00 <fra> write this image, with win32diskimager-v0.9-binary, if you have windows OS
Nov 06 09:55:52 <fra> bud: the step, are descript in this link http://beagleboard.org/Getting%20Started
Nov 06 09:56:51 <bud> thank you
Nov 06 09:57:07 <bud> how can I boot from sd card?
Nov 06 09:57:44 <torque> the first img on http://downloads.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beaglebone/ will let you create a bootable sd card
Nov 06 09:57:51 <eggzeck> I believe the BBB will automatically boot to the SD card once it's detected.
Nov 06 09:57:54 <torque> (the most easily)
Nov 06 09:58:06 <torque> the others work too but require you to preformat
Nov 06 09:58:24 <fra> bud: from boot from sd:http://beagleboard.org/latest-images   BeagleBone (Runs on BeagleBone Black as well without flashing the eMMC)      Angstrom Distribution (BeagleBone, BeagleBone Black - 4GB SD) 2013-06-20 - more
Nov 06 09:58:25 <eggzeck> (of course assuming you make it bootable)
Nov 06 09:58:56 <fra> bud: write image, by win32diskimager-v0.9-binary
Nov 06 09:59:31 <fra> dm8tbr: this graphical environment is?
Nov 06 09:59:50 <dm8tbr> fra: what are you talking about?
Nov 06 10:00:48 <fra> dm8tbr: after boot,  my BBB work in the graphical environment
Nov 06 10:01:08 <fra> it is?
Nov 06 10:01:24 * eggzeck is so confused
Nov 06 10:01:25 <dm8tbr> fra: I've told you. You have to disable this through systemd. read up how to disable services in systemd.
Nov 06 10:01:32 * dm8tbr goes out for lunch
Nov 06 10:04:08 <torque> bud, 143c?
Nov 06 10:04:49 <bud> lmao yes FML
Nov 06 10:04:55 <torque> heh
Nov 06 10:05:42 <bud> i set the damn password with a few beers in me
Nov 06 10:06:22 <torque> that'll get ya
Nov 06 10:06:30 <torque> I had to fix mine too over the weekend
Nov 06 10:06:39 <torque> managed to muck it up
Nov 06 10:07:41 <bud> should have taken 181
Nov 06 10:07:52 <bud> so lost
Nov 06 10:09:28 <torque> hopefully they'll explain things a bit
Nov 06 10:09:36 <torque> this is a pretty abrupt introduction
Nov 06 10:13:46 <torque> well, I'm gonna head to bed. good luck getting your password sorted
Nov 06 10:14:02 <bud> That'd be nice. Lectures haven't had much value whatsoever
Nov 06 10:14:13 <bud> Thanks for your help
Nov 06 10:53:21 <fra> dm8tbr: Thanks for your help
Nov 06 10:54:40 <fra> with Disable GNOME autostart, I resolve, no GUI interface :-)
Nov 06 11:24:06 <giu> hi guys
Nov 06 11:30:18 <pujan> hello
Nov 06 11:30:36 <giulio_> has anyone had problems connecting via ssh? my board just arrived, i followed the tutorial but when i to connect i keep receiving "ssh_exchange_identification: read: Connection reset by peer
Nov 06 11:30:36 <giulio_> "
Nov 06 11:31:28 <giulio_> looks like the board is refusing my request
Nov 06 11:33:17 <pujan> i want to  update beagleboneblack using a pen drive rather than microsd card
Nov 06 11:33:26 <pujan>  how can i do it
Nov 06 11:33:27 <pujan> ?
Nov 06 11:34:01 <pujan> want to install update for amstrong
Nov 06 11:39:07 <_av500_> you cant
Nov 06 11:39:10 <_av500_> buy an sdcard
Nov 06 11:39:16 <_av500_> its like $5
Nov 06 11:57:48 <fra> sorry, how to disable led for test by cloud9_
Nov 06 11:58:10 <fra> The led run for cpu sd ecc ecc activity
Nov 06 11:58:48 <fra> I do not want this function, such as disabled
Nov 06 11:59:25 <_av500_> https://www.google.com/search?q=led+triggers+linux
Nov 06 11:59:26 <fra> sorry... I work with BBB
Nov 06 11:59:50 <fra> @_av500_: tnks I view
Nov 06 12:10:24 <Guest93184> hi guys. Im new to bbb. Im using arch linux and trying to get HDMI running. But there are no DT overlays installed by default (no *.dtbs in /lib/firmware). Anyone knows how to get them?
Nov 06 12:13:09 <_av500_> from angstrom?
Nov 06 12:13:16 <_av500_> which is the stock linux that ships with it
Nov 06 12:13:29 <_av500_> and has hdmi support
Nov 06 13:47:20 <miccer> i have just installed adafruit_BBIO on my BBB and i am not able to access my gpios
Nov 06 13:47:26 <miccer> i am using python to do that
Nov 06 13:47:32 <miccer> but its not working
Nov 06 13:48:03 <miccer> right now i am just using a simple code to high a pin and low a pin
Nov 06 13:50:29 <KotH> miccer: and your question is?
Nov 06 13:50:43 <miccer> how should i do it
Nov 06 13:50:54 <KotH> debug your problem
Nov 06 13:51:00 <miccer> i am not able to high and low my gpio pin using python
Nov 06 13:51:32 <miccer> import Adafruit_BBIO.GPIO as GPIO
Nov 06 13:51:53 * KotH wonders why python people need a lib to set GPIOs
Nov 06 13:51:56 <miccer> GPIO.setup("P8_11",GPIO.OUT)
Nov 06 13:52:00 <miccer> this is the code i am using
Nov 06 13:52:03 <KotH> it's not like it's rocket science to write to a file
Nov 06 13:52:12 <miccer> no its not
Nov 06 13:52:23 <miccer> but its annoying when its not working
Nov 06 13:52:42 <miccer> i mean how much difficult could be working with a pin
Nov 06 13:52:45 <miccer> :(
Nov 06 13:53:06 <miccer> i have created the file
Nov 06 13:53:11 <KotH> step 1: check whether anything happens on the pins using an oscilloscope
Nov 06 13:53:20 <vvu|Log_> maybe you need sudo to hack the BBB for the pins ? *never worked more with BBB than u-boot*
Nov 06 13:53:28 <KotH> step 2: toggle the pins using something simpler than python. like shell or c
Nov 06 13:55:03 <miccer> okay
Nov 06 13:55:11 <miccer> what's next
Nov 06 13:55:37 <KotH> sorry, i'm not going to hold your hand
Nov 06 13:55:48 <miccer> :P
Nov 06 13:55:50 <KotH> apply standard problem solving techniques
Nov 06 13:55:57 <miccer> okay gotcha
Nov 06 13:55:59 <KotH> like: narrow the problem down step by step
Nov 06 13:57:55 <fra> How to disable the kernel activity leds on BBB?
Nov 06 14:03:46 <miccer> thanks for the help kotH
Nov 06 14:04:03 <miccer> using shell its working now
Nov 06 14:04:25 <miccer> that means either my library is not properly installed or the code is wrong
Nov 06 14:21:47 <das> I said some bullshit sarcastically in a meeting
Nov 06 14:21:55 <das> apparently it's a good idea and is patentable
Nov 06 14:22:13 <VirG> hahahahahahaha
Nov 06 14:22:25 <das> I'm not going to meetings anymore -_-
Nov 06 14:25:50 <ZiNC> Hey.
Nov 06 14:27:41 <fra> hello ZiNC
Nov 06 14:28:06 <fra> I have a question
Nov 06 14:28:15 <fra> you can help me?
Nov 06 14:28:17 <fra> How to disable the kernel activity leds on BBB?
Nov 06 14:28:48 <ZiNC> I don't have an answer.
Nov 06 14:29:04 <prpplague> fra: google for "sysfs leds class driver"
Nov 06 14:29:41 <vvu|Log_> fra: http://bit.ly/1hiWkEL
Nov 06 14:29:59 <vvu|Log_> mainly answer number 4 gives you what you want
Nov 06 14:32:38 <fra> ZiNC: How to disable the kernel activity leds on BBB?!!!
Nov 06 14:32:48 <fra> :-)
Nov 06 14:32:51 <ZiNC> I'm afriad that's not possible, fra.
Nov 06 14:33:16 <_av500_> its hardcoded in the BIOS
Nov 06 14:35:02 <fra> I have seen 100000 tutorial, for utilize the led, first by could9
Nov 06 14:35:24 <fra> how it it is possible?
Nov 06 14:35:44 <ZiNC> It's only an illusion.
Nov 06 14:35:50 <fra> :/
Nov 06 14:37:24 <_av500_> http://elinux.org/EBC_Exercise_10_Flashing_an_LED
Nov 06 14:37:25 <prpplague> fra: to disable the leds you need to use the sysfs entries for the LED class driver
Nov 06 14:37:27 <_av500_> fra: ^^^
Nov 06 14:39:43 <XorA> prpplague: or the cmdline entries to disable them before kernel boots
Nov 06 14:41:54 <fra> ok tnk, i try
Nov 06 14:42:23 <_av500_> or just ask again in an hour....
Nov 06 14:45:45 <mark4> how can i set an absolute size of a .bss section in a linker script?
Nov 06 14:46:33 <mark4> i want the bss size to be 1 Meg minus the size of the .text and .data sections. is that possible to do in a linker script?
Nov 06 14:46:33 <fra> @_av500_:I feel, if I can not, I ask for help again ...
Nov 06 14:49:50 <KotH> mark4: yes
Nov 06 14:49:59 <mark4> koth how
Nov 06 14:50:05 <KotH> mark4: dont remember
Nov 06 14:50:11 <KotH> mark4: but it's written in the documentation
Nov 06 14:50:22 <mark4> i am rtfming gnu ld but i cant freeking figure out this gobbldegook
Nov 06 14:50:33 <KotH> mark4: maybe not exactly in those words, but it's in there
Nov 06 14:50:36 <mark4> it has a LENGTH= .....
Nov 06 14:50:41 <mark4> but that gives me a syntax error
Nov 06 14:51:33 <mark4> and the freeking GNU documentation giving me 4 lines and a"click here for next page" is fucking useless
Nov 06 14:51:41 <mark4> i fucking hate the gnu foundation
Nov 06 14:51:46 <mark4> asswipes
Nov 06 14:51:49 <LetoThe2nd> mark4: watch your language, please.
Nov 06 14:55:06 <KotH> yes, no cursing unless aproved by the elders of dune
Nov 06 15:19:56 <ZiNC> :)
Nov 06 15:20:06 <ZiNC> Elders?
Nov 06 15:20:07 <ZiNC> Nah.
Nov 06 15:20:30 <ZiNC> .text, .data, .bss in non-Win?!
Nov 06 15:53:06 <Svenne> A question starting a python script  in autostart. Anyone?
Nov 06 15:55:22 <KotH> oh, you are running windows on your bbb?
Nov 06 15:58:10 <darty_> I have a BBb that ran for weeks then one day no lights, not even a power light. The powersupply tests fine with a volt meter. Am I right to assume the poor guy is a lost cause?
Nov 06 15:59:46 <KotH> try a different power supply
Nov 06 15:59:56 <KotH> a voltmeter is not a good way to try a psu
Nov 06 16:01:04 <darty> I tried the usb and it didn't work either.
Nov 06 16:02:12 <fra> how to open :beaglebone:green:usr0
Nov 06 16:02:20 <Svenne> NO NOT WINDOWS.... I am running Angstrom Linux and would like to start the script when the BB boots
Nov 06 16:02:37 <darty> The board is currently not hooked to anything. It was hooked to measure analog 0-1.8v when it had problems.
Nov 06 16:03:08 <fra> sorry, beaglebone:green:usr0
Nov 06 16:04:18 <darty> Svenne: are you just wanting to run a script once or a daemon?
Nov 06 16:05:53 <Svenne> No a daemon running the script forever
Nov 06 16:06:27 <fra> this is command, tnks... cat /sys/class/leds/beaglebone\:green\:usr0/trigger
Nov 06 16:07:21 <darty> Angstrom runs systemd I added mine as a service and it worked well
Nov 06 16:07:41 <Svenne> I found out that you need to run a script file. But where don you put this file?
Nov 06 16:07:42 <darty> the arch linux wiki has a very good information on how to do this
Nov 06 16:08:12 <Svenne> Ok arch linux wiki?
Nov 06 16:09:13 <darty> Svenne: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/systemd#Writing_custom_.service_files
Nov 06 16:09:24 <darty> there are other ways to do this but imo this is the proper way.
Nov 06 16:10:03 <darty> If your really lazy you could probably just use crontab and do a @reboot
Nov 06 16:11:16 <Svenne> Thanks!. crontab?
Nov 06 16:12:38 <darty> It is made for running jobs at specific times. It is very useful for automated backups and things. You should read up on it, it's very useful.
Nov 06 16:16:16 <Svenne> In what library did you find the files. I've looked at the wiki page and I could not find the fie. Do I need t
Nov 06 16:16:55 <darty> I can't remember and my BBb is dead right now :-/
Nov 06 16:17:08 <darty> try: find / -name systemd
Nov 06 16:17:28 <darty> might take it a second it isn't the fastest command
Nov 06 16:19:57 <fra> @_av500: sorry, you are online_
Nov 06 16:21:24 <fra> @_av500: anyway, thanks for all, I have disabled the default flashing led's on my BBB
Nov 06 16:23:29 <`Ishq> If you installed another distro, how do you get USB ssh back?
Nov 06 16:23:37 <fra> @_av500: now, I run by cloud9, the blinkled.js
Nov 06 16:23:53 <fra> @_av500: ad work correcly
Nov 06 16:26:04 <Svenne> I found systemd in several libs /sys/fs/cgroup/systemd /usr/lib/systemd /usr/lib/node_modules/bonescript/node_modules/systemd /usr/share/systemd /usr/share/common-licenses/systemd /var/lib/systemd /lib/systemd /lib/systemd/systemd /etc/systemd /etc/xdg/systemd /run/udev/tags/systemd /run/systemd
Nov 06 16:26:13 <Svenne> Which one :-)?
Nov 06 16:26:52 <darty> Take a look in /etc/systemd/
Nov 06 16:27:16 <darty> It will probably be very similar to what the arch wiki has
Nov 06 16:27:48 <Svenne> Yep found some.conf files
Nov 06 16:28:25 <darty> there should be a system folder your looking for .service files
Nov 06 16:33:41 <thews> any of you guys have a lapdock?
Nov 06 16:40:30 <Svenne> No, no .service I have journald.conf, logind.conf, system.conf and user.conf
Nov 06 16:41:49 <Svenne> Maybe I have to create the file...
Nov 06 16:42:27 <darty> there should be a /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/ with .service files in it
Nov 06 16:42:54 <bahar> anyone else have issues running opkg update / upgrade?
Nov 06 16:43:08 <bahar> it seems like it goes thru a loop, installing each package over and over until it runs out of memory and bricks
Nov 06 16:43:34 <bahar> i'm running a beaglebone rev a6 with 2012-12 image
Nov 06 16:43:43 <darty> bahar: you need to give it a different tmp folder iirc
Nov 06 16:44:09 <bahar> is there a way to clear the tmp folder that's already there before i do?
Nov 06 16:44:30 <darty>  /tmp doesn't have enough memory but the opkg command can build things other places
Nov 06 16:45:21 <darty> bahar: look at the --tmp-dir switch
Nov 06 16:46:35 <bahar> ok
Nov 06 16:46:49 <bahar> thanks!
Nov 06 16:52:15 <Svenne> Yep, could it be nondescript-autorun.service?
Nov 06 16:53:00 <Svenne> ExecStart=/usr/bin/node autorun.js
Nov 06 16:53:25 <Svenne> So I can add additional ExecStart here?
Nov 06 16:53:58 <darty> the problem is autorun.js isn't really a daemon. daemons have very special characteristics
Nov 06 16:54:15 <darty> They control their own forks and processes.
Nov 06 16:57:51 <Svenne> I assume they start the Java files with this command..
Nov 06 16:59:55 <darty> So the way a daemon works is you have a script that remembers the pid when the program is started so you can tell it to stop, or restart the program. This is not provided by systemd
Nov 06 17:01:09 <Svenne> Actually this file sets up and configures the system :-). But yes you are correct!
Nov 06 17:02:37 <darty> configures the system with javascript o.O
Nov 06 17:05:49 <mojtaba_> hi
Nov 06 17:06:03 <mojtaba_> i have a question
Nov 06 17:06:48 <darty> never ask to ask, just ask
Nov 06 17:07:16 <mojtaba_> thanks, i want to understand that
Nov 06 17:07:43 <mojtaba_> can i use the beagle board without os?
Nov 06 17:08:00 <mojtaba_> i must read data
Nov 06 17:08:19 <mojtaba_> from a usb at 250 Mbps
Nov 06 17:08:45 <mojtaba_> and then send it on two i/o at 250Mbps
Nov 06 17:09:19 <mojtaba_> can i do that?
Nov 06 17:09:58 <jonpry> gpio is not that fast
Nov 06 17:12:08 <mojtaba_> Excuseme, do you have any sugestion way to this work?
Nov 06 17:14:50 <jonpry> probably have to put an fpga or something on the gpmc
Nov 06 17:15:23 <jonpry> like blank canvas cape
Nov 06 17:15:25 <mojtaba_> what's gpmc?
Nov 06 17:15:46 <jonpry> external memory bus
Nov 06 17:16:17 <mojtaba_> Thanks
Nov 06 17:16:55 <darty> Svenne: Sorry I couldn't be more help, but I'm going to have to get back to work. Try looking into that crontab @reboot.
Nov 06 17:23:48 <mojtaba_> how much is the maximume speed of gpio of beagle board?
Nov 06 17:24:41 <mojtaba_> can i read from a usb flash at high speed mode?
Nov 06 17:36:23 <Svenne> darty: Your help was good. Thanks!
Nov 06 17:58:43 <capa66> hi
Nov 06 18:05:27 <joel_> #beagle is on a count of 305 now. more bots or trolls? or both? :P
Nov 06 18:05:45 <capa66> more boards sold?
Nov 06 18:05:50 <jkridner|work> and people.
Nov 06 18:06:02 <jkridner|work> ie, non-troll-type people.
Nov 06 18:06:24 <joel_> that's good to know, a good place to hang out.
Nov 06 18:31:35 <ccpplinux> hi
Nov 06 18:33:43 <ccpplinux> I want to know if BeagleBone Black can be used for day to day software development activity in php/mysql environment?
Nov 06 18:35:32 <agmlego> Yes.
Nov 06 18:35:45 <ccpplinux> I want to use BeagleBone Black as a normal desktop computer. Whether it is feasible or not?
Nov 06 18:35:55 <agmlego> Sure.
Nov 06 18:36:12 <hook> hi
Nov 06 18:38:08 <ccpplinux> since linux is preinstalled on a 2GB memory and so whether it will be possible to install extra packages on that memory or not?
Nov 06 18:38:18 <hook> hi
Nov 06 18:41:13 <hook> i need help making my beagle boardbone black read a digital signal then process that signal inorder to output a signal
Nov 06 18:42:26 <hook> i need help making my beagle boardbone black read a digital signal then process that signal inorder to output a signal
Nov 06 18:42:58 <woglinde> ccpplinux yes you can install more packages on the internal mmc
Nov 06 18:43:18 <woglinde> ccpplinux or you are using all stuff from sdcard with more space
Nov 06 18:43:52 <woglinde> ccpplinux but be aware about the limited ram
Nov 06 18:44:31 <hook> i need help making my beagle boardbone black read a digital signal then process that signal inorder to output a signal
Nov 06 18:45:05 <hook> the digital signal i need to procees is from a hall effect sensor
Nov 06 18:46:12 <woglinde> hook is this for commercial project?
Nov 06 18:46:44 <hook> no its for a school project
Nov 06 18:47:35 <woglinde> hook okay but I have no idea how to do it
Nov 06 18:47:56 <woglinde> hook the best solution would be to use the pru
Nov 06 18:48:06 <hook> what is pru
Nov 06 18:48:12 <woglinde> but pru lacks a lot of documentation and is hard to program
Nov 06 18:48:27 <woglinde> finding out what the pru is should be one of your tasks
Nov 06 18:49:41 <Vaizki> Did TI discontinue PRU support?
Nov 06 18:53:33 <woglinde> Vaizki did ti discontoiune omap?
Nov 06 18:55:36 <panto> woglinde, <black-knight>tis' but a scratch</>
Nov 06 18:56:08 <woglinde> panto what?
Nov 06 18:57:45 <panto> woglinde, haven't you heard about the omapageddon?
Nov 06 18:58:34 <woglinde> panto sure
Nov 06 18:58:47 <woglinde> panto it was in reploy too -> < Vaizki> Did TI discontinue PRU support?
Nov 06 18:59:30 <panto> ah, sorry
Nov 06 18:59:36 <panto> thought it was about omap
Nov 06 18:59:55 <woglinde> panto hm
Nov 06 19:00:03 <woglinde> omap and pru are bundled?
Nov 06 19:00:16 <panto> not exactly
Nov 06 19:00:36 <woglinde> hm ah okay so there other socs which uses the pru too
Nov 06 19:00:37 <woglinde> okay
Nov 06 19:02:21 <ds2> long live omap
Nov 06 19:22:13 <Svenne> lo
Nov 06 19:53:14 <bahar> so.... i can ssh into my beaglebone but i can't screen into it
Nov 06 19:53:24 <bahar> this is following a opkg upgrade
Nov 06 19:53:26 <bahar> any tips?
Nov 06 19:53:36 <bahar> for restoring screen
Nov 06 19:53:48 <bahar> since i ssh'd into my user account but there's no sudo, so i can't do any stuff pretty much
Nov 06 19:55:47 <thurgood> what user did you log in as?
Nov 06 19:55:55 <bahar> myself (bahar)
Nov 06 19:55:58 <bahar> not root
Nov 06 19:56:11 <bahar> although i suppose i could login as root, but no idea how to restore screen access
Nov 06 19:56:48 <woglinde> do you mean the console program screen?
Nov 06 19:57:03 <thurgood> opkg upgrade is pretty sure way to hose your system, dunno why so many people try it, I've never seen it recommended
Nov 06 19:57:32 <woglinde> thurgood but I still wonder why it breaks stuff
Nov 06 19:57:47 <woglinde> I would clean up the repo
Nov 06 19:58:04 <thurgood> yeah, there's that...
Nov 06 19:58:43 <thurgood> of course I've lost network connections in ubuntu during a distupgrade... it gets ugly
Nov 06 19:59:09 <woglinde> thurgood depends
Nov 06 19:59:12 <thurgood> although sometimes fixable
Nov 06 19:59:16 <woglinde> if it is only at downloading
Nov 06 19:59:32 <woglinde> new distupgrades on console goes via screen
Nov 06 19:59:36 <woglinde> I think
Nov 06 20:00:04 <thurgood> this was a couple of years ago, the issue may no longer exist
Nov 06 20:08:00 <JetForMe> Hi everyone. I'd like to run ROS on my BBB. I'm trying to get things up and running on Angstrom, but a while into the ROS installation script, it loses its ability to do DNS lookups. Are people having success with Ubuntu?
Nov 06 20:09:16 <JetForMe> Better still, any idea how I can troubleshoot this loss of DNS under Angstrom?
Nov 06 20:12:43 <woglinde> JetForMe /etc/resolv.conf
Nov 06 20:13:17 <JetForMe> Can you be more specific? It works fine after boot, but stops working after a bunch of opkg install commands
Nov 06 20:13:32 <JetForMe> The network is sitll up, though (I can ping an IP address)
Nov 06 20:36:39 <thurgood> JetForMe: /etc/resolv.conf should point to the nameserver
Nov 06 20:38:06 <bahar> i've seen opkg upgrade recommended in so many places
Nov 06 20:38:17 <bahar> strangely
Nov 06 20:39:08 <bahar> JetForMe: yes, it works fine after boot, but stops working after running opkg upgrade
Nov 06 20:39:29 <bahar> i even did opkg --tmp-dir ~ upgrade per a few recommendations
Nov 06 20:41:52 <JetForMe> bahar: interesting. I'm going to try again, and pay more attention to where it fails. I'm able to run opkg upgrade wihtout issues, tho
Nov 06 20:42:07 <bahar> it happens reliably for me
Nov 06 20:42:08 <bahar> every time...
Nov 06 20:42:32 <bahar> i see towards the end, it's telling me stuff fails, and i should perhaps try opkg -update ?
Nov 06 20:45:23 <bahar> now i'm seeing Could not create lock file /var/lib/opkg/lock: Permission denied.
Nov 06 20:45:27 <bahar> (i ssh'd in as root)
Nov 06 20:45:43 <bahar> JetForMe: ^
Nov 06 20:46:02 <JetForMe|-0700> I see that when I run not as root
Nov 06 20:46:52 <JetForMe|-0700> Oh, yes, I never tried opkg upgrade. I thought you meant update. update works fine, but upgrade is much like my script...runs a lot of opkg installs
Nov 06 20:46:58 <JetForMe|-0700> I bet it will fail similarly
Nov 06 20:47:03 <JetForMe|-0700> i have to eat lunch now, back later
Nov 06 21:01:21 <johndeerebilly> i have a new BBB andit wont insstall the drivers on a 64b win8 laptop
Nov 06 21:01:56 <johndeerebilly> pleeeze help
Nov 06 21:04:43 <johndeerebilly> is there a fone number i can call and speak live to someone?
Nov 06 21:09:25 <eggzeck> johndeerebilly: I believe Win8 now FORCES you to install signed drivers ONLY - So you'd have to be tricky
Nov 06 21:09:43 <eggzeck> oh he left, bummer for unpatient people.
Nov 06 21:10:16 <eggzeck> johndeerebilly: Hey I just gave you a bit of an answer
Nov 06 21:10:26 <johndeerebilly> i just got a new BBB and it wont install drivers
Nov 06 21:10:38 <eggzeck> 16:09 < eggzeck> johndeerebilly: I believe Win8 now FORCES you to install signed drivers ONLY - So you'd have to be tricky
Nov 06 21:10:47 <johndeerebilly> sorry i had to step away
Nov 06 21:11:34 <johndeerebilly> ok i will try to install on an older w7 machine  thanx
Nov 06 21:11:34 <eggzeck> johndeerebilly: groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/beagleboard/_y-fIgg-J7I
Nov 06 21:11:39 <eggzeck> no need to
Nov 06 21:11:41 <eggzeck> read above
Nov 06 21:12:24 <eggzeck> You need to just disable driver signature enforcement
Nov 06 21:12:31 <eggzeck> And you shoudl then be golden
Nov 06 21:12:35 <eggzeck> should*
Nov 06 21:12:59 <johndeerebilly> how do i disable driver signed thinggy
Nov 06 21:13:09 <eggzeck> Above I linked a page that will show you how
Nov 06 21:13:28 <eggzeck> >> groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/beagleboard/_y-fIgg-J7I
Nov 06 21:14:09 <johndeerebilly> i dunno how to get there as i dont know how to cut and paste and that stuff
Nov 06 21:14:28 <eggzeck> huh? on your IRC client? Or are you on your beaglebaord right now?
Nov 06 21:15:22 <Paperboys> Hi all, i have bought a BeagleBoard Black and i'm on 192.167.7.2...now in this tutorial says that i must have SD card... is possible flash angstrom image on eMMC?
Nov 06 21:15:50 <johndeerebilly> no i cant load the drivers onto my w8 64b
Nov 06 21:16:06 <eggzeck> johndeerebilly: If you just do what I say you'll be good to go.
Nov 06 21:16:10 <prpplague> Paperboys: angstrom is shipped on the eMMC, you only need to the uSD card if you are upgrading
Nov 06 21:16:27 <Paperboys> ok thanks
Nov 06 21:16:45 <eggzeck> johndeerebilly: Then if you can't or know how to cut and paste, find another computer and visit this page: groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/beagleboard/_y-fIgg-J7I
Nov 06 21:17:02 <johndeerebilly> ok thanx heaps   bye
Nov 06 21:17:13 <Paperboys> prpplague:and for view Angstrom Console on my pc?
Nov 06 21:17:54 <Paperboys> there is a serial comunication with beagle board?
Nov 06 21:19:37 <woglinde> Paperboys: http://circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=BeagleBone_Black_Serial
Nov 06 21:19:39 <prpplague> Paperboys: you can ssh into the board, or work via the browser
Nov 06 21:19:54 <prpplague> Paperboys: there is an option uart port for serial console
Nov 06 21:20:02 <prpplague> Paperboys: but in most cases you can just use ssh
Nov 06 21:20:09 <Paperboys> ok i use ssh
Nov 06 21:20:12 <Paperboys> is more simply
Nov 06 21:20:14 <Paperboys> no?
Nov 06 21:20:25 <prpplague> yeas
Nov 06 21:20:28 <prpplague> yes
Nov 06 21:21:36 <Paperboys> ahh fantastic! with ssh connection on browser
Nov 06 21:21:43 <Paperboys> incredible!
Nov 06 21:23:59 <Paperboys> :D
Nov 06 21:25:52 <daniel_ohh> Is there any way to mux the USB A pins to the headers on the BBB?
Nov 06 21:26:42 <daniel_ohh> I want to connect a USB hub but I don't have enough room in my enclosure to plug it into the type-A connector
Nov 06 21:28:55 <JetForMe|-0700> bahar: Yup, opkg upgrade also killed my DNS
Nov 06 21:32:23 <Paperboys> in BBB original with Angstrom, USB port is enabled?
Nov 06 21:32:37 <Paperboys> i've plug an usb device but dont work
Nov 06 21:32:38 <Paperboys> :(
Nov 06 21:33:54 <Paperboys> USB HOST
Nov 06 21:35:12 <KotH> daniel_ohh: nope
Nov 06 21:35:27 <KotH> daniel_ohh: the pins for usb are electrically different from the others, hence they cannot be shared
Nov 06 21:35:42 <KotH> daniel_ohh: what you can do is to unsolder the connector and solder some wires onto the pads
Nov 06 21:36:09 <daniel_ohh> KotH: That was my plan, just wanted to make sure I wasn't skipping an easy solution first.
Nov 06 21:36:13 <daniel_ohh> thanks!
Nov 06 21:36:17 <Paperboys> USB Hotplug work on BBB?
Nov 06 21:36:53 <KotH> Paperboys: if it does not support hotplug, it wouldnt be usb
Nov 06 21:38:34 <Paperboys> KotH: but when i plug a device on my usb, it isnt powered
Nov 06 21:39:11 <KotH> Paperboys: then something is wrong
Nov 06 21:39:39 <Paperboys> KotH: i'm not alone: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/beagleboard/uWMNdBv_aPg
Nov 06 21:39:55 <thurgood> Paperboys: are you using a barrel adapter for power?
Nov 06 21:40:47 <Paperboys> what is barrel adapter? is a simple usb device plugged on USB HOST on Beagle Board Black
Nov 06 21:41:00 <eggzeck> Yeah, using usb for power is a bit trippy I've found
Nov 06 21:41:07 <eggzeck> Paperboys: He means a power adapter
Nov 06 21:41:13 <thurgood> a power adapter other than miniusb
Nov 06 21:42:12 <gui_> I need some help with the very basics of bonescript please. I'm not sure if it's correctly installed
Nov 06 21:42:15 <Paperboys> device----miniusb---usb---Board
Nov 06 21:42:22 <thurgood> hotplugging could be a issue too if using a 3.8 kernel
Nov 06 21:43:01 <Paperboys> i have original Angstrom Image
Nov 06 21:43:07 <Paperboys> is 3.8 version?
Nov 06 21:43:14 <TooLmaN> Just like mobile devices and apps....  There's an IRC chat for that.   lol
Nov 06 21:44:58 <TooLmaN> Quick question for the devs:  I'm looking at getting the BBB running RS485 via the cape for the purpose of BacNet and Modbus communications.  Has anyone has any success getting a working driver?  Thanks
Nov 06 21:46:40 <thurgood> Paperboys: uname -r should give the version of the kernel
Nov 06 21:46:48 <Paperboys> 3.8.13
Nov 06 21:46:56 <Paperboys> so no solution for me?
Nov 06 21:47:34 <thurgood> Paperboys: use a newer kernel?
Nov 06 21:47:50 <thurgood> pretty sure this issue has been fixed
Nov 06 21:48:01 <Paperboys> which?
Nov 06 21:48:10 <bahar> JetForMe: any idea how to restore dns?
Nov 06 21:48:12 <Paperboys> the last is?
Nov 06 21:48:18 <KotH> Paperboys: hmm...
Nov 06 21:48:39 <thurgood> I think they're working on 3.13 now, or soon
Nov 06 21:49:04 <KotH> Paperboys: i think there was something about the power controller not being correctly initilized or doing something weird when going to power save
Nov 06 21:49:34 <KotH> TooLmaN: hmm.. does modbus and bacnet need any additional pins than just tx and rx?
Nov 06 21:49:35 <thurgood> you may want to flash the emmc with a newer image
Nov 06 21:50:01 <Paperboys> thurgood: mmmm? is hard!
Nov 06 21:50:07 <eggzeck> Why do I have a feeling companies are going to take advantage and exploit Open Software benefits.
Nov 06 21:50:24 <eggzeck> They are already creating selective open source hardware/software projects
Nov 06 21:50:27 <Paperboys> thurgood: which image?
Nov 06 21:50:34 <eggzeck> utilizing the public to "fund these projects"
Nov 06 21:50:35 <thurgood> define exploit
Nov 06 21:50:38 <eggzeck> sigh
Nov 06 21:51:04 <eggzeck> thurgood: Take advantage, like use us to fund their project and not give us true open source product
Nov 06 21:51:16 <agmlego> And which products are these?
Nov 06 21:51:30 <TooLmaN> KotH: actually, I'm not sure.  I've been hit up to make RS485 work.  I'm told that if the RS485 port is working properly then Bacnet will work fine.  I haven't researched to see if it needs more than tx/rx.  I think the RTS pin is used to switch from tx/rx and to check the UART buffer status.
Nov 06 21:51:33 <agmlego> And why are you paying for products that are not open-source if you want open-source products?
Nov 06 21:51:53 <eggzeck> agmlego: Who said I was? I read an article.
Nov 06 21:52:11 <thurgood> Paperboys: http://circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=Updating_The_Software
Nov 06 21:52:43 <KotH> TooLmaN: getting rs-485 working on the beagle is the same as on a regular pc based linux
Nov 06 21:52:50 <agmlego> eggzeck: Ah, so actually you have a worry based solely on things you read on the Internet. OK, crisis averted.
Nov 06 21:53:01 <Paperboys> thurgood: i dont have microSD
Nov 06 21:53:27 <KotH> TooLmaN: for infos on what the hardware can do, see the TRM
Nov 06 21:53:32 <eggzeck> agmlego: Yes, I said I had a feeling, didn't say it is actually happening at this moment.
Nov 06 21:53:35 <KotH> TooLmaN: the rest is documented in the kernel somewhere
Nov 06 21:54:25 <TooLmaN> KotH: I thought that too but after compiling the kernel and adding the RS485 patches and DT overlay file, it doesn't boot.  Compiling still takes a good 2hrs so troubleshooting on the fly is out
Nov 06 21:54:34 <Paperboys> i can update Angstrom without microSD?
Nov 06 21:54:50 <KotH> TooLmaN: do you have a serial2usb cable connected?
Nov 06 21:55:23 <KotH> TooLmaN: if not, get one and see what the bbb is doing on boot up
Nov 06 21:56:02 <agmlego> eggzeck: Right, and then you went on to say "They are already creating selective open source hardware/software projects utilizing the public to "fund these projects"", implying that you had some proof other than spooky feelings. ;-P
Nov 06 21:56:03 <TooLmaN> KotH: I'll have to get it setup to debug.  Very fresh on BBB here.  :)
Nov 06 22:01:14 <eggzeck> agmlego: Ah i see, yeah I didn't mean to create a panic hah - Though I should link the article for you. http://www.cnbc.com/id/101133560 - Read if you're interested. I still have the feeling haha
Nov 06 22:01:27 <syrioosh> i have a problem, on bb with angstrom with tv connected via svideo. After a while of e.g mplayer tv goes blank.
Nov 06 22:01:44 <syrioosh> no reset occured, ssh is fine, and no dmesg entry
Nov 06 22:01:58 <syrioosh> any idea which log investigate
Nov 06 22:02:01 <TooLmaN> KotH:  I'll get it hooked up tonight and see if I can find the point of failure.  Thanks again.
Nov 06 22:02:04 <syrioosh> i dont use X
Nov 06 22:02:37 <thurgood> syrioosh: set the timeout to 0
Nov 06 22:03:00 <syrioosh> what timeout
Nov 06 22:03:08 <thurgood> the console timeout
Nov 06 22:03:57 <syrioosh> how to do this ?
Nov 06 22:09:28 <Paperboys> i want do a little program, just for hobby, that read on Serial Port (my USB with FTDI driver), i can use claude9 ide for example?
Nov 06 22:11:00 <ds2> why write a program?
Nov 06 22:11:05 <ds2> 'cat' will do that just fine.
Nov 06 22:12:29 <Paperboys> but usb is ttyusb1?
Nov 06 22:13:20 <ds2> ttyUSBn where n is dynamic
Nov 06 22:13:39 <ds2> that's for most USB serial stuff. there is ACM class stuff that appear as ttyACMn
Nov 06 22:15:49 <Paperboys> cat /dev/ttyUSB1?
Nov 06 22:18:48 <ds2> yes
Nov 06 22:18:55 <Paperboys> dont work
Nov 06 22:18:57 <ds2> you can configure baud/etc with stty
Nov 06 22:18:59 <ds2> what does it do?
Nov 06 22:19:08 <Paperboys> there isnt ttyusb1
Nov 06 22:19:32 <ds2> is there ttyUSB0?
Nov 06 22:20:15 <Paperboys> how i can view tty device?
Nov 06 22:20:55 <ds2> "view"?
Nov 06 22:21:17 <Paperboys> yes
Nov 06 22:21:58 <Paperboys> was
Nov 06 22:22:03 <Paperboys> ttyusb0 :)
Nov 06 22:22:08 <Paperboys> but i dont view nothing!
Nov 06 22:22:11 <Paperboys> LOL
Nov 06 22:22:14 <ds2> define view?
Nov 06 22:22:36 <Paperboys> what?
Nov 06 22:23:30 <thurgood> cat works for getting the output
Nov 06 22:24:09 <thurgood> echo "blah" >> /dev/ttyUSB0 should work for setting the input
Nov 06 22:24:16 <Paperboys> ok ok is work
Nov 06 22:24:22 <Paperboys> it work
Nov 06 22:24:57 <JetForMe> bahar: short of rebooting, not yet
Nov 06 22:29:08 <bahar> rebooting isn't doing much
Nov 06 22:29:28 <bahar> gonna try flashing it again
Nov 06 22:29:41 <Paperboys> how connect board to internet
Nov 06 22:29:51 <Paperboys> i can share connection with minusb?
Nov 06 22:30:52 <JetForMe> gigamegablog.com is down
Nov 06 22:31:43 <ergoo> Hey
Nov 06 22:32:24 <JetForMe> I'm reflashing, too. Not sure what the latest release is, though
Nov 06 22:36:32 <ergoo> If I wanted to use CAN w/ beagle  I'd need to build a circuit with a controller/transiever?
Nov 06 22:36:47 <ergoo> BBB doesn't have this by default?
Nov 06 22:37:24 <bahar> i'm using 2013.09.04
Nov 06 22:38:19 <ergoo> I http://beagleboard.org/latest-images says 6th month was latest release, is there an pth?
Nov 06 22:38:22 <ergoo> *9th
Nov 06 22:39:39 <bahar> i'm looking at http://circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=Updating_The_Software  and it says "production image 2013.09.04"
Nov 06 22:40:19 <JetForMe> I found one for 10/20 here: http://downloads.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beaglebone/
Nov 06 22:40:30 <JetForMe> but the ID.txt file inside says 9/6
Nov 06 22:40:41 <bahar> i dunno if that's a beta or dev build
Nov 06 22:40:55 <JetForMe> it does also say "NOT FO PRODUCITON"
Nov 06 22:41:37 <bahar> yeah
Nov 06 22:41:43 <JetForMe> Okay, I'll re-flash to the one you linked
Nov 06 22:42:04 <JetForMe> Although at this point I think i want to switch to ubuntu
Nov 06 22:42:17 <symgryph> has anyone got an ethernet header working on the bbb tyet (the second one?)
Nov 06 22:42:39 <symgryph> I reccomend using debian, the ubuntu thing (for server) seemed to have lots of issues.
Nov 06 22:43:21 <bahar> would that still have cloud9, etc?
Nov 06 22:43:43 <symgryph> not sure, but I am sure there is a 'package' for that!
Nov 06 22:44:13 <symgryph> I don't flash over the emmc, just use the external flash via sd card.
Nov 06 22:44:37 <symgryph> also getting the crypto to work in non-angsgtrom is quite a challenge.
Nov 06 22:44:49 <symgryph> haven't figured out how to get the hwrng working with kernel 3.8
Nov 06 22:45:44 <bahar> i didn't really have any issues with the 09-04 build, I just wanted the latest and greatest and in the process screwed things up
Nov 06 22:45:48 <bahar> opkg is terrible :)
Nov 06 22:45:56 <symgryph> I love having 'apt'.
Nov 06 22:46:01 <symgryph> thats why I changed.
Nov 06 22:46:16 <bahar> i swear stuff doesn't even stay updated.
Nov 06 22:46:18 <symgryph> angstrom sucks rocks compared to debian.
Nov 06 22:46:31 <bahar> i'll update something and when i reboot it's back to the old version
Nov 06 22:46:48 <bahar> maybe i'm seeing things
Nov 06 22:46:56 <symgryph> Openbsd looks promising.
Nov 06 22:47:19 <bahar> http://circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=Debian_On_BeagleBone_Black
Nov 06 22:47:32 <symgryph> my squid is pushing 45mps
Nov 06 22:49:03 <symgryph> got debian 7.2 running on it.
Nov 06 22:49:16 <symgryph> complete with build tools with >500MB left.
Nov 06 22:49:26 <bahar> eMMC link?
Nov 06 22:49:35 <symgryph> thats the built in flash
Nov 06 22:49:38 <symgryph> 2gb
Nov 06 22:58:34 <gui_> how can I make my BBB run "nvm use 0.8" at every boot?
Nov 06 23:00:25 <thurgood> depends when in the boot sequence you want it
Nov 06 23:01:14 <gui_> it can be the last thing to run
Nov 06 23:16:54 <_av500_> imagine the heat death of the universe
Nov 06 23:16:59 <_av500_> and in the last instant
Nov 06 23:17:08 <_av500_> "nvm use 0.8"
Nov 06 23:28:00 <thurgood> I have such an old angstrom on my system here at the moment I don't know if it's much help...but check /etc/init.d/ and the /etc/rc3.d folders for autostart scripts
Nov 06 23:28:53 <Seth_> Hello...
Nov 06 23:29:20 <Seth_> <<<< still a newbie.
Nov 06 23:29:29 <Seth_> I got a BBB...yep!
Nov 06 23:29:52 <thurgood> no worries, just don't expect everyone to greet you all at once :P
Nov 06 23:29:57 <Seth_> Some background...I took one course of programming in college.
Nov 06 23:30:11 <Seth_> I get it...I have been here before. I am patient.
Nov 06 23:30:20 <thurgood> ah heh
Nov 06 23:30:54 <Seth_> Um...Javascript is a lot like what I took in college.
Nov 06 23:31:10 <Seth_> <<<< hobbiest
Nov 06 23:32:13 <agmlego> hobbyist, as in one who hobbies. not that of the most hobbs. ;-P
Nov 06 23:32:13 <Seth_> I am going to try and get that one book next...It has the beagle in a tuxedo on the cover.
Nov 06 23:32:24 <Seth_> Yea...thank you.
Nov 06 23:32:43 <Seth_> I should learn to hobb too. Hhaahha.
Nov 06 23:33:20 <agmlego> #reprap is --> that way.
Nov 06 23:34:25 <Seth_> Um...I think the Bone Black will be a good learning experience...Time and Effort.
Nov 06 23:35:06 <agmlego> Right, but repraps use hobbed bolts in their filament extruders.
Nov 06 23:35:13 <agmlego> THus, to learn how to hobb...
Nov 06 23:35:15 <agmlego> ;-P
Nov 06 23:35:18 <Seth_> I got the Gett... Started w/ Beaglebone Book.
Nov 06 23:35:37 <Seth_> I am learning from scratch...it is fun.
Nov 06 23:36:17 <Seth_> New stuff and complications...Whoo Hooo!
Nov 06 23:36:39 <Seth_> Hey Lego...Do you know your BBB?
Nov 06 23:36:52 <Seth_> Or Jscript/
Nov 06 23:37:23 <agmlego> if you are trying to direct comments at someone, please use the full nick (hint, tab-completion works well in most IRC clients), or they may not see your comment. ;-P
Nov 06 23:37:38 <Seth_> Okay
Nov 06 23:37:39 <agmlego> I try to stay as far away from javascript as possible.
Nov 06 23:37:50 <agmlego> ANd I have several beaglebone projects around.
Nov 06 23:37:54 <Seth_> Oh...C ++?
Nov 06 23:38:00 <agmlego> Python, mostly.
Nov 06 23:38:05 <agmlego> Some C when needed.
Nov 06 23:38:14 <agmlego> Some bash.
Nov 06 23:38:23 <agmlego> A little HTML/CSS
Nov 06 23:38:31 <agmlego> You know, whatever the task requires.
Nov 06 23:38:43 <Seth_> So...what type of projects do you have?
Nov 06 23:39:03 <Seth_> Tooth brush for dogs?
Nov 06 23:39:10 <Seth_> Oh.
Nov 06 23:39:28 <grantsmith> home come /proc/cpuinfo on a BBB shows less bogoMIPS than a rasp pi, even though it theoretically has a faster cpu ?
Nov 06 23:39:49 <_av500_> because bogomips are bogus
Nov 06 23:39:53 <_av500_> like the name says
Nov 06 23:39:55 <gui_> hi there
Nov 06 23:40:03 <thurgood> it be the governor setting too
Nov 06 23:40:13 <thurgood> it /could/be
Nov 06 23:40:18 <grantsmith> ah
Nov 06 23:40:22 <Seth_> I like the robot(s) idea...I am working on MFG. a nice looking one w/ some action. Not For Selling.
Nov 06 23:40:35 <JetForMe> bahar: Is there any way to see what version of Angstrom is installed?
Nov 06 23:40:46 <thurgood> many processors don't run full tilt if they don't need to
Nov 06 23:41:19 <ds2> it is about as theoretical as a Pentium is faster then a 286
Nov 06 23:41:22 <grantsmith> makes sense.. i was just curious
Nov 06 23:41:22 <bahar> check /etc/angstrom-version
Nov 06 23:41:34 <agmlego> grantsmith: Also note that the bone will not run at full clock speed on USB power.
Nov 06 23:41:40 <agmlego> There is not sufficient current available.
Nov 06 23:42:01 <bahar> agmlego: interesting, didn't know it throttles when on usb power.
Nov 06 23:42:14 <grantsmith> agmlego,  interesting !
Nov 06 23:42:21 <grantsmith> ty
Nov 06 23:42:23 <agmlego> And, BoigoMIPS simply shows how quickly the processor can run a busy loop. It serves absol;utely no purpose for benchmarking, and Linus calls anyone who uses it as such a git.
Nov 06 23:42:34 <grantsmith> haha
Nov 06 23:42:55 <grantsmith> well he named his source code control system a git too, so...
Nov 06 23:43:24 <Seth_> How does the Node.js work?
Nov 06 23:43:24 <agmlego> He named it after himself, like all of his projects.
Nov 06 23:43:30 <agmlego> Seth_: Sheer fucking magic.
Nov 06 23:43:35 <Seth_> Yea!
Nov 06 23:43:40 <agmlego> Also, as well as anything javascript based.
Nov 06 23:43:46 <agmlego> So, not terribly.
Nov 06 23:44:06 <Seth_> Yep...I have it running on my computer. I need to use it more...but how?
Nov 06 23:44:34 <agmlego> Google.
Nov 06 23:44:46 <Seth_> I guess just random typing from the JS library...
Nov 06 23:45:17 <Seth_> If my "future" robot hurts me...I will then know that I was not cut out for JS...
Nov 06 23:46:43 <Seth_> Sorry for the bad joke...Here is a question. Has anyone read or used their "getting started w/ beaglebone" book?
Nov 06 23:46:58 <gui_> is there any timer or periodic function on bonescript?
Nov 06 23:47:07 <Seth_> Yes...
Nov 06 23:47:23 <gui_> actually, let me rephrase
Nov 06 23:47:29 <agmlego> Seth_: Nope.
Nov 06 23:47:38 <agmlego> I just launched into the SRM/TRM.
Nov 06 23:47:44 <gui_> is there any precise timer, like low level interrupts?
Nov 06 23:47:56 <Seth_> Oh.
Nov 06 23:48:00 <agmlego> And, well, 7 years of Linux experience, and a degree in electrical and computer engineering.
Nov 06 23:48:24 <agmlego> And lots of hands-on with embedded control systems in FRC and FLL, and in my job in industrial automation.
Nov 06 23:48:28 <Seth_> I am new to linux too...
Nov 06 23:48:51 <Seth_> Automation...Cool.
Nov 06 23:49:09 <Seth_> Are you repairing robot workers?
Nov 06 23:50:08 <Seth_> I saw some automated robots for MFG. They seem to know how to weld well and stay focused for long periods.
Nov 06 23:50:25 <agmlego> I deal with machine vision for my job.
Nov 06 23:50:49 <agmlego> Assembly verification, code reading and traceability, robot guidance, gauging and metrology, surface inspection.
Nov 06 23:51:12 <Seth_> oh...cool. Sensors are cool. I am not up to par on that knowledge but it seems interesting.
Nov 06 23:51:32 <Seth_> I just deal w/ basic motors for now...
Nov 06 23:51:44 <Seth_> <<<< learning
Nov 06 23:52:27 <Seth_> I saw this thing...It was an automated mower. I thought great...there goes Sat. for me.
Nov 06 23:52:32 * agmlego focused on controls in college.
Nov 06 23:53:19 <Seth_> I focused on behavior...it was a general education for me. I lack education but I can learn.
Nov 06 23:54:37 <Seth_> I am going to focus time on making things w/ electricity. It seems like a worthy task.
Nov 06 23:55:14 <Seth_> I read up on history, programming and now it is time to proceed.
Nov 06 23:56:08 <Seth_> I could use some cheat sheets at times...Thankfully, JS is already written.
Nov 06 23:57:52 <Seth_> I had to stop w/ my book recently. I need to get a toggle switch, resistors and LEDs.
Nov 06 23:58:06 <Seth_> I just started the book, too.
Nov 06 23:59:56 <Seth_> I recently got some jumper wires and a breadboard to test out my knowledge w/ the BBB.
Nov 07 00:03:44 <Seth_> It would be cool to make a touch screen controller that makes my robot punch itself...
Nov 07 00:04:21 <Seth_> I know that sounds silly but durable things usually are lasting.
Nov 07 00:04:36 <Seth_> i.e. suicide bot. Hahhaaha.
Nov 07 00:05:00 <agmlego> Seth_: Check out the Antimov competition Sparkfun ran.
Nov 07 00:05:19 <Seth_> Okay...I will look into it.
Nov 07 00:06:19 <Seth_> I saw that Pollolu has their version of bot kits...Sumo and others for competition.
Nov 07 00:07:37 <Seth_> Well...it has been fun agmlego. I am going to head out now. I will be around in the next couple of years. Have fun...
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