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Nov 16 03:07:09 <sheldonw> Does one have to compile the whole kernel if I wanted to have something compiled as a module instead of being compiled directly into the kernel as it is now?  Pertaiining to a graphics driver. Or can I just compile the module and be good?
Nov 16 03:40:28 <Jun> who knows how to browse internet via usb
Nov 16 04:25:41 <sam__> I am using second Hand BeagleBone Black.But it is not booting properly as per manual details.I powered it with 5v,2A charger then also no effect .Then what is reasons for this ?
Nov 16 04:26:54 <sam__> And it is also not detected by PC too even after installing driver properly !!
Nov 16 04:44:31 <sam__> hello
Nov 16 05:15:32 <`Ishq> sam__: Is it broken?
Nov 16 05:15:47 <`Ishq> One thing you could try is flashing it to the latest angstrom distribution
Nov 16 05:16:06 <`Ishq> Maybe the old owner bricked it before he sold it (or sold it because he bricked it)
Nov 16 05:30:42 <wolfbyte> can anyone answer new image questions
Nov 16 08:20:54 <sam__> Hello
Nov 16 08:23:12 <sam__> How to patch Xenomai to angstrom linux kernel for Beaglebone Black ? Because on www.beagleboard.org there is ony image for eMMC and uSD.So how to patch the Kernel ?
Nov 16 08:24:06 <dm8tbr> the angstrom kernel workflow has been written on plenty of times
Nov 16 08:26:21 <sam__> I am new to this .Please give link where I can find how to download anstrom kernel and how to make final image after patching ? Please.
Nov 16 08:30:59 <sam__> hello
Nov 16 11:05:44 <Tenkawa> greetings all
Nov 16 12:12:06 <saikat> hi
Nov 16 13:03:12 <Mibrib> hi, is it possible that use 20 pin of expanded connector as gpio ?
Nov 16 13:04:37 <Mibrib> i want to place two byte on 16 pins and use 4 pin as control pin (write and read).
Nov 16 13:13:33 <Jully> where I get Angstrom linux kernel configured for Beaglebone black to patch Xenomai ?
Nov 16 14:31:55 <Newbie_> hii
Nov 16 16:03:30 <mark4> i rebooted my bbxm last night, it never came on the net. decided to fix it thismorning.  boot up with console connection and i have no eth0
Nov 16 16:03:43 <mark4> ive not TOUCHED tghe kernel
Nov 16 16:03:45 <mark4> i have no idea what driver didnt get installed
Nov 16 16:03:47 <mark4> what do i modprobe to get my eth0 back
Nov 16 16:08:15 <mark4> can someone please tell me what ether net module i need for my bbxm. because i have no idea and google just spams me with 3245678293456972843658724 3hits that dont tell me a freeking thing about what MODULE i need
Nov 16 16:08:22 <mark4> maybe i have no google skills
Nov 16 16:09:03 <mark4> i did not rebuild my kernel. i did not modify my modules
Nov 16 16:09:06 <mark4> now i have no eth0
Nov 16 16:12:21 <mark4> i cant even install lshw to LOOK see what eth0 module i need
Nov 16 16:12:39 <_av500_> pastebin a boot log
Nov 16 16:13:55 <mark4> how i have no network
Nov 16 16:14:02 <mark4> i just need to know what module i need to get my eth0 back
Nov 16 16:14:05 <_av500_> you have serial?
Nov 16 16:14:17 <mark4> i just need to know what MODULE i need
Nov 16 16:14:18 <_av500_> kernel spits out a lof on serial
Nov 16 16:14:26 <_av500_> mark4: but you might have lost usb
Nov 16 16:14:28 <_av500_> eth is on USB
Nov 16 16:14:36 <mark4> i have not lost usb
Nov 16 16:14:44 <_av500_> pastebin a boot log
Nov 16 16:14:46 <mark4> my main storage is on a usb drive. i can lsusb
Nov 16 16:14:53 <mark4> how do i collect that
Nov 16 16:14:57 <_av500_> ?
Nov 16 16:15:03 <_av500_> in your terminal program
Nov 16 16:15:08 <_av500_> it does not allow to log?
Nov 16 16:15:18 <_av500_> e.g. in minicom
Nov 16 16:15:25 <mark4> its minicim
Nov 16 16:15:28 <mark4> minicom
Nov 16 16:15:32 <_av500_> it can log
Nov 16 16:15:40 <_av500_> or just backscroll your window
Nov 16 16:16:05 <_av500_> bbl
Nov 16 16:16:17 <mark4> scroll back doesnt pastebin it
Nov 16 16:16:41 <_av500_> I trust you will manage
Nov 16 16:17:24 <mark4> ifconfig -a shows a usb ether connection.  it does not show eth0
Nov 16 16:17:30 <mark4> i do not believe eth0 is on usb
Nov 16 16:18:35 <mark4> http://bpaste.net/show/150258/
Nov 16 16:18:46 <_av500_> on bbxm? it is
Nov 16 16:19:17 <mark4> then why was my ethernet connection always eth0 not a usb ether device
Nov 16 16:19:48 <mark4> i have a usb0 network device.l this is not eth0 and it never worked
Nov 16 16:20:33 <_av500_> the omap3 has no native ethernet
Nov 16 16:20:43 <_av500_> on the BBXM there is a 4 port + eth usb hub
Nov 16 16:20:47 <_av500_> SMSC something
Nov 16 16:20:51 <_av500_> [    3.971466] hub 1-2:1.0: 5 ports detected
Nov 16 16:20:57 <mark4> so what module do i need
Nov 16 16:21:40 <mark4> [    1.190002] usbcore: registered new interface driver cdc_ether
Nov 16 16:21:47 <mark4> thats usb0:  which is not eth0
Nov 16 16:21:53 <mark4> my network is eth0
Nov 16 16:22:24 <mark4> [    3.401519]  gadget: g_ether ready
Nov 16 16:23:16 <mark4> i dont have time i have to go to church
Nov 16 16:23:34 <mark4> all i need to know is what MODULE isnt getting loaded
Nov 16 16:24:00 <_av500_> g_ether is for the MUSB
Nov 16 16:24:02 <_av500_> not for EHCI
Nov 16 16:24:07 <_av500_> its for the miniubs
Nov 16 16:24:44 <mark4> what driver do i need
Nov 16 16:24:49 <mark4> i dotn have time bbl
Nov 16 16:30:44 <_av500_> mark4: http://pastebin.com/AhvmW7KN
Nov 16 16:30:48 <_av500_> my working setup
Nov 16 16:30:55 <_av500_> had to walk downstairs and reboot it
Nov 16 16:31:13 <_av500_> look for smsc
Nov 16 16:31:21 <_av500_> and it is eth0, even though its via usb
Nov 16 19:37:26 <tabbek> does anyone happen to have a link or code example for reading a pwm signal on a beaglebone black?  Searching found lots of examples for outputing pwm, but nothing for reading.
Nov 16 19:37:44 <_av500_> out is easy
Nov 16 19:38:00 <_av500_> you can convert the pwm to a voltage
Nov 16 19:38:03 <_av500_> and use the ADC
Nov 16 19:38:40 <tabbek> I have a particular sensor that returns its reading via pwm, so id need to read that pulse width on the bbb
Nov 16 19:39:01 <_av500_> ah
Nov 16 19:39:13 <_av500_> not so easy
Nov 16 19:39:24 <_av500_> you can write a kernel driver that uses IRQs to measure the timing
Nov 16 19:39:29 <_av500_> or poll it from the PRU
Nov 16 19:39:35 <_av500_> from user space, its not doable
Nov 16 19:39:43 <tabbek> unfortunate
Nov 16 20:09:12 <castellar> hello, I´m trying to use my HDMI monitor without success. I can see the beagle during the boot, but after a while, I get the black screen. My monitor is 1920x1080@60, but supports 1280x1024@60Hz. I already tried to force my resolution using the xrand command, but I get "Can´t open display 0.0". How can I solve this?
Nov 16 20:10:58 <dm8tbr> castellar: what software are you running on your BBB?
Nov 16 20:11:07 <castellar> angstron
Nov 16 20:11:47 <castellar> Angstrom v2012.12 - Kernel 3.8.13
Nov 16 20:12:51 <dm8tbr> castellar: what's the output of "uname -a"?
Nov 16 20:13:22 <castellar> Linux beaglebone 3.8.13 #1 SMP Wed Sep 4 09:09:32 CEST 2013 armv7l GNU/Linux
Nov 16 20:13:51 <dm8tbr> ok, by the build date a recent image
Nov 16 20:14:28 <dm8tbr> AFAIU it should just come up with 720p by default
Nov 16 20:18:44 <castellar> how can I change it?
Nov 16 20:19:00 <castellar> my max resolution will be 1280x720?
Nov 16 20:20:45 <castellar> when I plug in my television full HD 1080p the video works fine with 1920x1080
Nov 16 20:43:59 <castellar> there is a command to change the resolution?
Nov 16 20:50:32 <dm8tbr> I don't know. maybe ask on the mailing list?
Nov 16 20:50:44 <woglinde> fbset?
Nov 16 20:51:30 <mark4> can anyone help me get my NOTWORKING back in a networking state?
Nov 16 20:51:42 <mark4> i have no eth0 on my beagle board
Nov 16 20:51:57 <mark4> i need to know what kernel modules the bbxm uses
Nov 16 20:52:06 <mark4> for ethernet
Nov 16 20:56:25 <KotH> send me an bbxm and i'll figure it out
Nov 16 20:56:39 <woglinde> smsc stuff?
Nov 16 20:56:39 <woglinde> 911 something
Nov 16 20:56:43 <woglinde> wiki will tell you
Nov 16 20:56:50 <KotH> woglinde: the big guy with the av and the 500 has told him that already half a day ago
Nov 16 20:56:53 <dm8tbr> lsusb will tell you too
Nov 16 20:57:53 <woglinde> koth yes mark4 needs 4 people to tell him
Nov 16 20:58:00 <woglinde> but he can program forth
Nov 16 20:58:18 <mark4> woglinde, if you want to be a complete FUCKING BITCH all your life go head
Nov 16 20:58:33 <mark4> but fuck off and leave me the fuck alone
Nov 16 20:58:33 <dm8tbr> mark4: keep your language to yourself, ktx
Nov 16 20:58:50 <woglinde> hm and I helped him
Nov 16 20:58:50 <mark4> im active aggressive. he is a coward and passive aggressive
Nov 16 20:59:00 <mark4> how about you tell HIM to stfu too
Nov 16 20:59:10 <dm8tbr> you might take that agression somewhere else, thanks
Nov 16 20:59:30 <mark4> but his aggression is fine... got it
Nov 16 20:59:45 <woglinde> aggression?
Nov 16 21:00:14 <woglinde> I am calm
Nov 16 21:00:44 <woglinde> and watching haruka and the magic mirror
Nov 16 21:00:58 <KotH> mark4: TUNE DOWN!
Nov 16 21:01:02 <KotH> mark4: woglinde has tried to help you
Nov 16 21:01:31 <KotH> mark4: if you start insulting people because you need multiple people to tell you the same thing, then it's your fault and not of those who try to help you!
Nov 16 21:01:37 <mark4> offering an olive branch in one hand while stabbing you in the back with the other...
Nov 16 21:02:38 <woglinde> o.O
Nov 16 21:02:38 <mark4> koth i dont need multiple people telling me the same thing. i asked for help here earlier but left
Nov 16 21:02:38 <mark4> if someone answered while i was away i MISSED IT
Nov 16 21:02:38 <KotH> mark4: well, we cannot help you
Nov 16 21:02:38 <KotH> mark4: we dont know what your problem is
Nov 16 21:02:38 <mark4> so i asked again and the first thing out of his mouth is the BS he just gave me
Nov 16 21:02:38 <KotH> mark4: you dont provide any information but repeat the same questio over and over again
Nov 16 21:02:56 <KotH> mark4: if you think it's BS, ok, you are entitled to an opinion
Nov 16 21:03:09 <mark4> all i needed to know was what module do i need loaded for eth0 to work on a bbxm. that answer was given and so was a ration of shit by woglinde
Nov 16 21:03:18 <mark4> the help i appreciate. the ration of shit i can do withlout
Nov 16 21:03:19 <KotH> mark4: but i will not tollerate anyone insulting the people who help the most in this channel
Nov 16 21:03:21 <dm8tbr> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3617688
Nov 16 21:04:32 <_av500_> mark4: http://pastebin.com/AhvmW7KN
Nov 16 21:06:25 <_av500_> anyway, back to soldering
Nov 16 21:06:31 <KotH> eh..
Nov 16 21:06:37 <KotH> _av500_: valves again? :)
Nov 16 21:06:57 <woglinde> hm so it was 95xx not 911
Nov 16 21:07:08 <woglinde> my damn brain
Nov 16 21:07:28 <KotH> woglinde: take some chocolate, it helps :)
Nov 16 21:07:34 <woglinde> koth as I told
Nov 16 21:07:35 <honestly> 911 is when someone breaks into your house
Nov 16 21:07:46 <woglinde> honestly depends where you live
Nov 16 21:07:52 <honestly> indeed
Nov 16 21:07:59 <mark4> call for a cop. call for an ambulance, call for a pizza
Nov 16 21:08:04 <mark4> see who gets there first
Nov 16 21:08:25 <KotH> in europe? ambulance
Nov 16 21:08:26 <mark4> 911 is about the single most useless thing you can do in an emergency
Nov 16 21:09:34 * KotH would call 144, works in more countries than 911 ;)
Nov 16 21:10:02 <mark4> 999 in england. what ever the number, in an emergency they are not REQUIRED to show up
Nov 16 21:10:10 <mark4> nor should they be
Nov 16 21:10:26 <KotH> uh.. wait what?
Nov 16 21:11:03 <KotH> i dont know about the backwater banana country you live in, but in most countries i know, the emergency services are required to show up if you call them
Nov 16 21:11:13 <KotH> even if it's obviously a hoax
Nov 16 21:11:19 <mark4> no, they are not
Nov 16 21:11:25 <mark4> not in england where i grew up
Nov 16 21:11:31 <mark4> not in any state in the united states
Nov 16 21:11:41 <mark4> the emergency response teams are NOT your personal body guards
Nov 16 21:11:46 <KotH> 3rd world and 4th world countries
Nov 16 21:13:47 * _av500_ wishes we would discuss usb0 vs eth0 more
Nov 16 21:13:54 <woglinde> lol
Nov 16 21:13:57 <woglinde> musb suckz
Nov 16 21:14:04 <woglinde> nothing more to discuss
Nov 16 21:14:13 <KotH> why doesnt anyone fix musb?
Nov 16 21:14:22 <KotH> it has been a topic here forever
Nov 16 21:14:31 <mark4> what is musb
Nov 16 21:14:43 <KotH> or did the fix get killed in omapgeddon?
Nov 16 21:14:48 <_av500_> the otg block on the omap3
Nov 16 21:14:51 <_av500_> and am335x
Nov 16 21:15:07 <_av500_> KotH: no, musb lives on happily in the rest-TI
Nov 16 21:15:47 <KotH> woglinde: is haruka good?
Nov 16 21:15:54 <KotH> woglinde: ie, shall i d/l it?
Nov 16 21:15:57 <mark4> failed to open /dev/fuse: Permission denied <-- what the heck is going on with my bbxm
Nov 16 21:16:04 <woglinde> koth hm the movie is fine
Nov 16 21:16:08 <_av500_> badbios
Nov 16 21:16:09 <mark4> fix network. now cant mount my sshfs mount
Nov 16 21:16:13 <woglinde> my son cried a bit buts okay
Nov 16 21:16:24 <KotH> how old is your sun?
Nov 16 21:16:26 <KotH> er.. son
Nov 16 21:16:28 <woglinde> ups son
Nov 16 21:16:32 <woglinde> args
Nov 16 21:16:34 <woglinde> 7 now
Nov 16 21:17:03 <woglinde> I am away a bit
Nov 16 21:17:04 * KotH nods
Nov 16 21:17:07 <KotH> have fun
Nov 16 21:17:08 <mark4> what are the correct ownershipts on /dev/fuse ?
Nov 16 21:17:34 <mark4> and permissions too. mine is crw------ root:root
Nov 16 21:17:57 <KotH> there are no correct settings, only those that you think  usefull
Nov 16 21:17:59 <mark4> which it could not possibly have been yesterday because my USER ws doing mounts
Nov 16 21:18:09 <KotH> but the ones you have are the most common ones
Nov 16 21:18:26 <mark4> then how can a user EVER mount a user space file system
Nov 16 21:19:42 <KotH> PEBCAK
Nov 16 21:19:53 <tabbek> lol
Nov 16 21:20:45 <mark4> that may well be the case but throwing cow shit into peopls fases doesnt help does it
Nov 16 21:21:03 <KotH> look, first thing you should doubt is yourself
Nov 16 21:21:05 <KotH> always
Nov 16 21:22:05 <KotH> but you dont
Nov 16 21:22:05 <KotH> you think you do everything right
Nov 16 21:22:05 <KotH> and everything/everyone else is at fault
Nov 16 21:22:05 <mark4> wtf
Nov 16 21:22:05 <mark4> when did i blame you
Nov 16 21:22:05 <KotH> thus you stumble over the most basic problems and cannot get the things done that really matter
Nov 16 21:22:05 <mark4> or anyone else for what went wrong here
Nov 16 21:22:05 <mark4> that matter TO YOU
Nov 16 21:22:07 <mark4> forget i asked
Nov 16 21:27:45 <woglinde> I sometimes have a phase to ask people simplequestions I could look up myself in 2 minutes and really believe people will helping me
Nov 16 21:28:34 <woglinde> but anyway it was a long day
Nov 16 21:28:40 <woglinde> good night
Nov 16 21:29:18 <KotH> schlaf gut!
Nov 16 21:30:29 <mrpackethead> KotH: what are the correct ownershipts on /dev/fuse ?
Nov 16 21:31:24 <mrpackethead> KotH: thankyou for the PM
Nov 16 21:31:52 <mark4> there we go being passive aggressive tyvm
Nov 16 21:31:56 <mark4> i DID google fuse
Nov 16 21:32:12 <mrpackethead> KotH: i've been trying to figure that out for weeks, thanks so much for the help
Nov 16 21:32:15 <mark4> every case where this error has occurred says "add your suer to the fuse group"
Nov 16 21:32:28 <mark4> there is no fuse group on this system. therefore that is NOT the fix
Nov 16 21:33:05 <mark4> between yesterday and today, maybe due to an emerge -uDN  world SOMETHING has changed that makes my user unable to mount a sshfs file system
Nov 16 21:33:15 <woglinde> hm I would add a group fuse
Nov 16 21:33:23 <woglinde> add the user to it
Nov 16 21:33:38 <woglinde> and than chgrp fuse /dev/fuse
Nov 16 21:33:38 <mark4> you would but as it was OBVIOUSLY removed from this sytem by gentoo devs, maybe its best i find out why first
Nov 16 21:33:41 <woglinde> and tried it
Nov 16 21:33:53 <woglinde> but maybee I am to passive agressive
Nov 16 21:34:08 * KotH hands woglinde some big chocolate bar
Nov 16 21:34:09 <mark4> well there was another instance of it so maybe you are
Nov 16 21:34:46 <mark4> so just for the sake of the rest of this channel i guess ill put you on ignore because if getting your help means suffering your bullshit too then count me out
Nov 16 21:35:15 <mrpackethead> KotH: is the fuse a 3A or 5A one?
Nov 16 21:35:15 <KotH> mrpackethead: 16A
Nov 16 21:35:15 <mrpackethead> maybe mark4 is using a 1A fuse, and its blowing
Nov 16 21:35:15 <KotH> mrpackethead: we need power
Nov 16 21:35:21 <mrpackethead> Ahh. thats for when you run windows 7 on your Beagle right
Nov 16 21:35:27 <mrpackethead> that was a cool hack.
Nov 16 21:35:52 <mrpackethead> if you put 27V on the DC input, it will speed up the processor fast enough, so you cna run Windows 7
Nov 16 21:36:01 <mrpackethead> and did'nt you say, 33V will run MacoS?
Nov 16 21:36:47 <honestly> o.O
Nov 16 21:54:06 <KotH> juup, 33V for macos. we dont know yet how far we have to go for windows 8... maybe the hardware cannot stand that much
Nov 16 21:55:07 <honestly> so that's why the power adapters are adjustable up to 33V
Nov 16 21:56:39 <dm8tbr> if you combine two 26V power supplies you can drive it at 54V and it will actually outpace a core i7
Nov 16 21:56:55 <honestly> lol
Nov 16 22:04:27 <mrpackethead> dm8tbr, surely that requires fridge-cape
Nov 16 22:04:59 <dm8tbr> lox- cape
Nov 16 22:05:17 <dm8tbr> or better liquid nitrogen
Nov 16 22:05:24 <dm8tbr> less fireworks
Nov 17 00:23:40 <cemede> hi, anyone has BB-BONE-LVDS-01-01.dtbo file for chalk-elec lvds cape board?
Nov 17 00:27:48 <cemede> isn't present at /lib/firmware/ in Robert's Nelson debian images
Nov 17 00:28:34 <cemede> boot log from serial: http://tny.cz/a060870a
Nov 17 00:55:55 <thebeagle> does any one know of a vendor in the US that has the beagle bone black in stock
Nov 17 00:57:43 <myself> MCM says they're in-stock: http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/83-15259
Nov 17 00:58:03 <tcort> thebeagle: http://www.newark.com/jsp/search/productdetail.jsp?sku=65W6016
Nov 17 00:58:22 <myself> There are some on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Beagleboard-BeagleBone-Black-DevKit/dp/B00CHYOLHK/
Nov 17 00:58:33 <thebeagle> damn, I'm an idiot and didn't think of amazon
Nov 17 00:58:56 <thebeagle> thanks for the help, i am moving from a raspberry pi
Nov 17 00:59:02 <myself> one of us! one of us!
Nov 17 00:59:09 <myself> lmao... welcome to the black side :D
Nov 17 00:59:58 <thebeagle> its so much better
Nov 17 01:00:19 <thebeagle> what kind of gadgets should i buy with it
Nov 17 01:00:24 <thebeagle> that would make development easier
Nov 17 01:05:02 <cemede> by now dont buy from chalk-elec
Nov 17 01:08:02 <myself> depends on what kind of development you're doing. If you're doing a lot of hardware in a fledgling electronics lab, a logic analyzer or multichannel oscilloscope can help you debug a lot of things
Nov 17 01:08:33 <myself> if you're doing mostly software stuff, a solid PSU is proably your best hardware investment to start off with ;)
Nov 17 01:08:56 <myself> oh, also a micro-HDMI cable, which most folks don't have sitting around
Nov 17 01:20:06 <thebeagle> i am just ssh'ing to it
Nov 17 01:20:15 <thebeagle> or plan on it
Nov 17 01:21:11 <thebeagle> are there any cheap logic analyzers
Nov 17 01:21:29 <thebeagle> that you would recommend, my company is paying for it but their budget is small
Nov 17 01:21:30 <myself> the open bench logic sniffer is worth a look
Nov 17 01:22:04 <myself> the saleae logic8 is a bit more polished
Nov 17 01:27:21 <thebeagle> cool, I'm gonna get the open bench one i think
Nov 17 02:55:42 <ZetsubouSensei> hello i have a question, i tried to disable the console ttyO2 on the beagle board through commenting out the arguments in the /boot/uboot/uEnv.txt file,  and as far as i know the file /etc/init/ttyO2.conf should be deleted
Nov 17 02:56:00 <ZetsubouSensei> but in ubuntu 13.04 there is no such file
Nov 17 02:56:16 <ZetsubouSensei> did they move it somewere else, im using a beagleboard xm
Nov 17 02:56:21 <ZetsubouSensei> thnx
Nov 17 02:57:23 <ZetsubouSensei> im doing this so i can use the serial port of the board
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