**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Nov 19 03:00:00 2013 Nov 19 03:05:49 riskable: try smoking a $25k dev board Nov 19 03:40:28 http://www.datasheet.in/datasheet-html/D/P/8/DP83861_NationalSemiconductor.pdf.html Nov 19 03:40:47 for anybody considering a 1000Bast-T ethernet interface for their BBB Nov 19 03:43:09 i don't think AM35xx has RGMII Nov 19 03:44:27 there is always ASM code for the PRU cores Nov 19 03:50:34 i guess it does support rgmii Nov 19 03:57:23 meh but not on expansion pins Nov 19 04:07:36 . Nov 19 05:06:34 Is that possible to connect to wlan and etho automatically while system boot up in Beaglebone Nov 19 05:07:16 or just only one means is available at boot up Nov 19 05:42:36 beagle13: look into connman documentation. Or, ditch connman and set it up through a custom script Nov 19 06:00:10 I'm looking for a Ubuntu 13.04 or 13.10 (if it's stable enough) eMMC flasher. The links on eLinux.org seem dead or wrong. Does anyone know where i can get this and/or a SD card image? Nov 19 06:02:35 http://www.armhf.com/index.php/boards/beaglebone-black/ @ pi1 Nov 19 06:04:52 Ferris: thank you I'll take a look. Nov 19 06:06:41 beaglebone rev a6 is not connecting to jtag using ccsv5 in windows Nov 19 06:06:48 The links on eLinux seem to point to debian wheezy, but also mentions Ubuntu at times. I know Ubuntu is Debian, but it's still confusing. Nov 19 06:06:50 can u guys help me to sort it out? Nov 19 06:07:43 yeah I was a little confused by that too, pi1 Nov 19 06:08:04 I ended up gong with debian since I'm new at linux and probably wouldn't know the difference Nov 19 06:09:16 i don't know of any others that have canonical repos Nov 19 06:10:09 prasanna: why do you even need jtag? Nov 19 06:10:37 I wouldn't mind debian either..it's really quite similar as far as I can tell. I don't like Unity, so any Ubuntu I get will need a facelift to xfce. Nov 19 06:11:13 dm8tbr: this is my customer requirement.. Nov 19 06:11:18 Whichever one has alot of packages and activity would be best Nov 19 06:11:43 Unity is pretty resource heavy, if i'm not mistaken. not great for bbb, in any case Nov 19 06:12:05 i'm running headless so it doesn't really matter, disabled all desktop evnrionments Nov 19 06:12:19 prasanna: most people here don't use jtag, you might get more help on TI e2e Nov 19 06:13:09 is XBMC working on the BBB yet? Nov 19 06:13:31 about how large should the image generated from building the angstrom kernel be? mine is ~4MB, seems pretty small. Nov 19 06:13:45 pi1: it doesn't have hardware accelerated decoding, so it's not really ideal for xbmc Nov 19 06:14:00 aww that's a shame Nov 19 06:14:22 it's not an set-top-box or mobile phone chip Nov 19 06:14:27 it's an industrial chip Nov 19 06:15:02 that said, it might just work, but YMMV Nov 19 06:15:27 I saw mention of a project for it on the beagle website...but it doesn't say much. Nov 19 06:15:44 it says theyre working to get it working with opengl es 2.0 Nov 19 06:15:58 which only does 3D graphics Nov 19 06:16:22 you sure? Nov 19 06:17:01 about what? Nov 19 06:17:12 only doing 3d Nov 19 06:17:15 yes Nov 19 06:24:09 you can accelerate some 2d with gles, but you won't get a large resolution, or hardware decoding of video from that Nov 19 06:26:31 large = larger Nov 19 06:27:31 yeah..im just reading that the bbb can't do 1080p with audio now. Nov 19 06:27:45 this is dissappointing Nov 19 06:30:10 if you r requirements are 1080p you really should look into a different dev board, if 1080p and price are you r main consideration look into the r:pi Nov 19 06:30:30 ugggh, your not you r Nov 19 06:30:47 yeah I have a Pi...I just assumed the capabilities would be somewhat similar Nov 19 06:31:10 they are ... /somewhat/ similar Nov 19 06:32:28 r:pi delivers more pixels, bbb beats it out in a extensibility, but they're fairly different systems Nov 19 06:33:27 I wouldn't really call the r:pi a dev board, due to it's closed nature... but it has it's place Nov 19 06:42:44 the rpi is based on a set-top-box chip, so yes, running set-top-box software (XBMC) on it is going to work good. Nov 19 06:42:55 also that's about the only thing it will do reasonably well Nov 19 06:46:36 Yeah the Pi has already become a fixed part of the A/V setup now, but i hoped to have similar abilities with the BBB, and have something I can take with me. Nov 19 06:49:33 <_av500_> you can take a rpi with you Nov 19 06:50:06 <_av500_> or even a monbile phone Nov 19 06:50:12 <_av500_> these do 1080p these days Nov 19 06:50:36 i thought everything does 1080 these days Nov 19 06:52:25 it's the new SD/composite Nov 19 06:53:12 just in time for 4k Nov 19 06:53:36 aka the new HD Nov 19 06:53:56 just that mktg won't call it that, because they still push 1080p as fullhd Nov 19 06:56:00 ok then..not going to be a set top box...what should I do with this thing? Nov 19 07:14:54 You could set up a small server for webhosting and other stuff Nov 19 07:15:06 This bouncer is running on a bbb Nov 19 07:16:25 Media Wiki doesn't run too poorly, either Nov 19 07:17:07 all @ pi1 Nov 19 07:18:58 I don't really know if you're interested in any of that stuff Nov 19 07:27:07 I've dabbled a bit but no real need for a web server atm. My Pi is taking care of WINS and master browser. Nov 19 07:27:58 How hard would it be to adapt some old lego mindstorm stuff to the bbb? Nov 19 07:29:06 stuff as in sensors, motors etc? Nov 19 07:29:12 I think there are projects already going with that exact thing in mind Nov 19 07:29:13 yes Nov 19 07:29:43 should be dead simple, I think they're all i2c Nov 19 07:31:24 well ok if you don't want to mutilate your midstorms kit you have to build some cable adapters and apparently find 82k resistors Nov 19 07:31:27 the "rcx" had pretty limited IO, and the lego brand software was also pretty limited..there were other ways to program it but still...3 ins and 3 outs Nov 19 07:32:28 i know the motors are 9v..i dont know about the sensors...but its also the old mindstorms stuff from @ 2000 Nov 19 07:32:46 not the newer NXT stuff Nov 19 07:33:04 but let's see what do I use my BBBs for.. one is a router, dns server, web cam frame grabber, sensor measurement and heating remote control unit all in one Nov 19 07:33:18 another one monitors the heating and electricity in my home Nov 19 07:34:06 one I use at work to talk to i2c devices in some prototype hardware Nov 19 07:36:44 I have 5 RasPis and 3 BBBs then, and tbh the RasPi feels like a toy compared to BBB.. yes it has good multimedia capability but I more often need a solid USB and Ethernet Nov 19 07:37:17 doesnt the pi have equally solid usb and ethernet? Nov 19 07:37:23 loads of community support for the RasPi though and that's a big plus for most people Nov 19 07:38:19 first of all the ethernet in the RasPi is attached to the USB Nov 19 07:38:45 and last time I used my Pis the USB drivers were flaky Nov 19 07:38:51 could be that they fixed them Nov 19 07:38:55 were talking the rev B wuith wired ethernet? Nov 19 07:39:03 but I would see stuff like keyboard losing keystrokes when downloading stuff Nov 19 07:39:05 with* Nov 19 07:39:08 yes Nov 19 07:39:31 i have successfully created a linux kernel image using the guide found at (http://elinux.org/Building_BBB_Kernel). how do i create an image now to flash my BBB? i am currently looking at http://cwraig.id.au/?p=507 but several of the steps do not make sense to me (u-boot.img, rootfs). any help is appreciated. Nov 19 07:39:41 i remember when i used my rpi with high network load and usb data transfer it just crashed the kernel, since then no more rpi for me Nov 19 07:40:14 the BBB has the Ethernet on the SoC Nov 19 07:40:29 and it has been rock solid for me Nov 19 07:40:40 i know that for the 1st rev of rpi ethernet and usb are on the same bus and that is why it crashed Nov 19 07:40:45 vvu|Log: from what I hear usb sucks even more on rpi, yes Nov 19 07:40:54 many of the subtle differences in favor of the BBB cannot really be appreciated on a superficial level Nov 19 07:40:55 through_sorsemer: what specifically don't you understand? Nov 19 07:40:58 dunno if they did some fixing Nov 19 07:41:36 through_sorsemer: if all you are after is the kernel, just replace/add that Nov 19 07:41:44 like the boot process... working with a real cpu booting things is a bit less head-exploding than the RasPi GPU boot :) Nov 19 07:42:15 gpu boot? Nov 19 07:42:49 yes, on the RasPi the GPU is the first thing that wakes up, loads binary magic blobs from the SD card and then kicks off the cpu Nov 19 07:43:01 thurgood: `cp u-boot.img /mnt/boot/` - not sure where they're getting u-boot.img from. Nov 19 07:43:05 interesting Nov 19 07:43:14 as said, the raspi is based on a settop box chip Nov 19 07:43:21 dm8tbr: how would i go about doing that? Nov 19 07:43:39 through are you creating a fresh image, or just updating the kernel? Nov 19 07:43:54 through_sorsemer: wasn't the complete kernel workflow for angstrom explained in some blog posts? Nov 19 07:43:57 pi1, but you can't argue with the price :) Nov 19 07:44:13 thurgood: i created a fresh image using the latest 3.8 branch on github Nov 19 07:44:19 true...both are pretty affordable really Nov 19 07:44:54 dm8tbr: it might have been - would it be on one of the angstrom-distribution pages that's currently down? Nov 19 07:45:00 http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:kRbXRsigxo0J:www.angstrom-distribution.org/some-usefull-workflow-blogs Nov 19 07:45:20 pi1, it's just my feeling that the BBB is a bit better on everything else except 2 things. The HDMI output (720p with sound only on the BBB) and lack of analog audio. so media center things. Nov 19 07:45:27 ive just been fairly impressed with th pi and its ability to stream video over samba on the tv while im logged into a full desktop via putty tinkering withthings. Nov 19 07:45:57 Vaizki: you can sort of get 1080p. IIRC only at 24 full frames or such. Nov 19 07:46:00 oh and Pi is better on price and community support as said before Nov 19 07:46:08 dm8tbr: yes but without sound Nov 19 07:46:11 but yes, point stands, it's not a media SoC Nov 19 07:46:23 yup Nov 19 07:46:28 24fps... doesn't even work on most digital monitors does it? Nov 19 07:46:43 works on any reasonable tv nowadaus Nov 19 07:46:44 you can add a usb dac with analog out for about $9 i think Nov 19 07:46:55 pi1, sure. and that's another thing. BBB has only one usb port. Nov 19 07:47:01 forgot about that, it's a pain. Nov 19 07:47:28 ok, one type A usb host port. Nov 19 07:47:34 well two usb ports. both are MUSB so can do either IIRC Nov 19 07:47:38 the Pi might have 2 USB..but neither of them carry enough power to use anything other than a self powered USB hub Nov 19 07:47:59 also, usb hubs are cheap Nov 19 07:48:01 yea and the 2 USB are hubbed inside the RasPi already Nov 19 07:48:08 dm8tbr: yes but they're not small Nov 19 07:48:21 and they are not even closely as well made as the BBBB Nov 19 07:48:38 I have one that's 1/4th the size of the BBB and can be powered externally Nov 19 07:48:41 4 ports Nov 19 07:48:57 the little belkin huh Nov 19 07:49:21 some intel giveaway thingy. so cheap promo crap. but the PCB is nice and small Nov 19 07:49:24 usb2 Nov 19 07:49:38 * dm8tbr ripped it apart immediately Nov 19 07:49:44 lol Nov 19 07:51:02 also I have one bricked Pi and zero bricked BBBs Nov 19 07:51:19 ooh how did you brick a pi? Nov 19 07:51:28 I dunno who mentioned Mindstorms + BBB, but there's a cape for that Nov 19 07:51:40 oh is there? Nov 19 07:51:41 it is pretty hard to brick a beagle without physical damage of some sort Nov 19 07:52:04 pi1: well it was basically doing its stuff in my boiler room, measuring temperatures etc and then it died Nov 19 07:52:12 http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBone_Motor_w/_NXT_Connectors pi1 Nov 19 07:52:34 hmm yeah my old stuff isnt of the NXT sort Nov 19 07:52:40 could be of course that it was killed by some spike from my one wire bus stuff etc Nov 19 07:52:48 connectors will be different at least Nov 19 07:52:53 but I replaced it with a BBB and that's been fine since Nov 19 07:53:07 well..in a boiler room might have somethign to do with it Nov 19 07:53:34 or is it a well ventilated boiler room Nov 19 07:54:11 or is that a euphamism for basement? Nov 19 07:54:20 maybe. it's about 30°C in there. BBB SoC is rated -40 .. 90 so that's fine, and I'd guess all the other bits on the board are good until +50°C at least Nov 19 07:54:28 no it's a real boiler room Nov 19 07:54:34 cool :P Nov 19 07:54:43 I burn oil to heat my house Nov 19 07:54:50 not really cool but :) Nov 19 07:56:08 I made some simple stats for it, http://vaizki.fi/koti/ Nov 19 07:56:14 sorry 'bout the finnish ;) Nov 19 07:57:17 thats very cool Nov 19 07:57:32 so that's +4.4 for outside temp, +58 for the boiler water, +35 for the water circulating in radiators, +61 for the hot tap water, 30% opening of the control valve for hot/cold water mixing etc Nov 19 07:57:54 the dead zone in the graphs is because I went to a 3.12 kernel and my 1wire stuff stopped working Nov 19 07:58:11 eep Nov 19 07:58:39 hope it was just monitoring, not regulating Nov 19 07:58:42 mostly because device tree overlays changed and haven't had time to change Nov 19 07:58:59 I regulate with real time.. always... :P Nov 19 07:59:35 I'd rather use an arduino to regulate something than an arm board running normal pre-emptive linux Nov 19 07:59:53 fair enough Nov 19 08:00:19 then again, BBB has 2x PRUs which could be used for realtime control Nov 19 08:00:53 but since I'm not building for volume production, only for fun, it doesn't make sense to port working stuff Nov 19 08:06:08 hi! Nov 19 08:06:22 hello! Nov 19 08:06:36 extra points for IPv6 there Nov 19 08:07:47 yay :) Nov 19 08:08:22 yeah remember when you could remember an IP address Nov 19 08:09:01 so much time has passed... those were wonderful days Nov 19 08:09:27 * av500 thinks back to IPv2 Nov 19 08:10:01 i'm trying to... Nov 19 08:11:02 Vaizki: Chrome's google translate feature is having a conniption fit with your website Nov 19 08:23:20 hii Nov 19 08:26:06 Can any one tell me how boot the board from sd card Nov 19 08:26:34 hold the button nearest the sd card while you power on Nov 19 08:26:37 Actually I want to build the u boot my self Nov 19 08:26:43 and load it Nov 19 08:27:07 pi1 you are correct Nov 19 08:27:32 but I dont want to boot the entire kernel i just want to boot U boot it self Nov 19 08:27:45 I want to stop after U boot prompt Nov 19 08:27:59 that i dont know Nov 19 08:28:09 Can any one please Nov 19 08:28:49 just remove the kernel from the card (easiest, but dirtiest) Nov 19 08:28:50 pi1 can you tell me how you made the image in u r case Nov 19 08:29:16 correct way: fixu the uboot scripts so that they do not autoboot anymore. Nov 19 08:29:22 vijay_ its called break and its old Nov 19 08:29:35 and you need a serial console of course Nov 19 08:29:54 woglinde: what, you mean i cannot VNC into uboot? Nov 19 08:30:09 LetoThe2nd x2x Nov 19 08:30:25 yeah thats correct my main intention is to under stand the u boot code flow Nov 19 08:30:27 vijay: the best I could do was the info about the button I'm afraid Nov 19 08:30:51 and i want to change the u boot code Nov 19 08:30:56 lol Nov 19 08:31:06 vijay_ you have a long way before you Nov 19 08:31:09 and wrong channel Nov 19 08:31:14 well for someone changing the uboot code, it should be easy to disable autoboot. Nov 19 08:31:24 ok Nov 19 08:31:31 its not even a recompile there, just a config file... Nov 19 08:31:34 and next Nov 19 08:33:23 when i write the u boot to the sd card the start up code is not booting from the sd card even i press the button Nov 19 08:33:42 Can some one please point out how to do this Nov 19 08:33:44 ? Nov 19 08:34:16 because its uboot (or more precisely a uboot script) that reads the button. so uboot is running already then. for uboot hacking, you need to change the ROM Nov 19 08:34:39 but again, all that is easy to see, when looking at the serial boot output.... Nov 19 08:36:46 so from your understanding there is no otherwway to hack the u boot LetoThe2nd Nov 19 08:37:02 what has that to do with my understanding? Nov 19 08:37:22 and of course there are other ways, they are all documented in the SRM and TRM. Nov 19 08:37:41 buzzword: the sysboot pins and their configuration resistors. Nov 19 08:37:50 what are SRM and TRM Nov 19 08:37:53 pls?? Nov 19 08:38:04 vijay_: ask google. Nov 19 08:38:10 ok Nov 19 08:38:24 vijay_: if you want to do uboot code, you should be able to find that out by yourself. Nov 19 08:38:46 vijay_: if you are unable to find out what the BBB SRM and TRM are, forget uboot. Nov 19 08:39:05 ohh Nov 19 08:40:49 I already gone through them Nov 19 08:41:00 Mr LetoThe2nd Nov 19 08:41:21 But I am facing problem in booting for sd Nov 19 08:41:34 no, you are facing the problem of not listening and reading. Nov 19 08:41:37 I can boot the linux ,but not the u boot Nov 19 08:42:14 I am finding the way to boot u boot from my sd card Nov 19 08:42:23 not from the ROM Nov 19 08:42:56 *sigh* Nov 19 08:42:58 1) compile uboot and MLO Nov 19 08:43:03 2) place both on sdcard Nov 19 08:43:11 3) boot with "boot" button pressed Nov 19 08:43:14 4) profit Nov 19 08:43:29 0) buy serial cable so you see what you are doing Nov 19 08:43:41 0.5) kill MLO on EMMC to make sure it does not boot from there Nov 19 08:43:44 yes i have serial cable Nov 19 08:43:44 * LetoThe2nd is back to work, everything necessary has already been said. Nov 19 08:45:31 av500 Can you tell me whether do i need to write the both files to sd card onto ant file system Nov 19 08:45:44 or do i need to write them using dd command Nov 19 08:45:46 yes, you need MLO and uboot Nov 19 08:46:00 written to the boot partition Nov 19 08:46:02 which is FAT Nov 19 08:46:36 and you have to copy MLO there first, to a virgin filesystem Nov 19 08:46:38 FAT is only understand by u boot code right Nov 19 08:46:53 otherwise MLO will not land in the right sectors for the boot rom to find Nov 19 08:47:03 umm blocks.. something Nov 19 08:47:05 ;) Nov 19 08:47:20 Vaizki: nonsense Nov 19 08:48:08 hmmh? Nov 19 08:48:20 maybe I remember another board/soc then Nov 19 08:48:20 [09:45] and you have to copy MLO there first, to a virgin filesystem Nov 19 08:48:51 there have been issues when MLO would not find uboot in the beginning Nov 19 08:48:53 on omap3 Nov 19 08:48:55 years ago Nov 19 08:49:00 because of a bug in MLO Nov 19 08:50:01 so the boot code in the SoC is fully FAT-aware and can trawl the directory listing to find MLO= Nov 19 08:50:09 yes Nov 19 08:50:19 that's nice. I stand corrected. Nov 19 08:50:31 maybe it fails with 65k entries in the root folder Nov 19 08:50:35 :D Nov 19 08:50:40 but normally copying MLO just works Nov 19 08:50:56 ok I've always mkfs'd it before copying.. Nov 19 08:51:03 silly me Nov 19 08:53:59 now this is bothering me.. must've been another board Nov 19 08:54:16 as said, this was cargo culted around omap3/4/amm335 Nov 19 08:54:47 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/beagleboard/ro5k5r4Cuq4/-5OsO_jKMnIJ Nov 19 08:54:56 cargo cult rules Nov 19 08:55:06 I need to make money out of it Nov 19 08:55:19 woglinde: sell BBB sdcards on ebay Nov 19 08:55:31 "100% guaranteed boot" Nov 19 08:55:31 hm Nov 19 08:58:13 how can I overwrite the u boot code in ROM Nov 19 08:58:47 boot Nov 19 08:58:51 find the boot partition Nov 19 08:58:54 delete MLO Nov 19 09:01:40 ok Nov 19 09:01:51 will try it Nov 19 09:03:14 do or do not, there is no try Nov 19 09:06:30 av500: remember in which kernel version was the OTG BBB bug fixed ? 3.4.1 maybe ? Nov 19 09:06:54 how do i generate the necessary rootfs tarball needed for flashing a new image onto the BBB if I am using the latest 3.8 branch on github? Nov 19 09:09:19 through_sorsemer what kernel or image? Nov 19 09:09:43 angstrom Nov 19 09:10:09 no Nov 19 09:10:23 you are confused Nov 19 09:10:31 3.8 is kernel version not angstroem Nov 19 09:10:51 so your question is maybee how do I get my selfcompiled kernel onto the sdcard Nov 19 09:10:58 right :) Nov 19 09:11:22 copy uImage to the sdcard Nov 19 09:11:56 i've done that, to a boot/ dir Nov 19 09:12:38 use make modules_install INSTALL_MOD_PATH=/mountpoint_of_the_second_partion_on_sdcard/ Nov 19 09:13:12 be sure you are using ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=prefix too Nov 19 09:18:07 alright that's working away. then in my boot/ folder i currently have MLO, u-boot.img, uImage, uEnv.txt, am335x-bone.dtb. does that sound right? Nov 19 09:19:12 yes Nov 19 09:19:26 when your uenv.txt is setup correctly Nov 19 09:19:47 look it up from where u-boot loads the kernel Nov 19 09:20:02 i pulled it from the readme of the github 3.8 branch Nov 19 09:20:33 does not mean its right for your setup Nov 19 09:20:44 u-boot can load from the second partition too Nov 19 09:23:18 hmm, so how would i verify that it's specified properly in reference to u-boot Nov 19 09:27:09 check your uEnv.txt Nov 19 09:27:36 or pastebin it Nov 19 09:28:41 http://pastebin.com/c8j2t858 Nov 19 09:30:12 through_sorsemer looks like your uEnv.txt boots from sdcard Nov 19 09:30:15 aeh emmc Nov 19 09:31:10 which i believe is what i want it to do Nov 19 09:31:49 think twice Nov 19 09:32:17 adn think what your goal is Nov 19 09:33:00 through_sorsemer: after you BBB boots just scp your uImage to /boot/ on the emmc Nov 19 09:33:04 and reboot Nov 19 09:33:51 vvu|Log and the modules goes automagicly there? Nov 19 09:34:10 mhmh never did modules magic Nov 19 09:34:31 you are compiling all drivers in? Nov 19 09:34:43 from my experiemnts i just copied the kernel, yep drivers in Nov 19 09:34:46 what i needed Nov 19 09:35:40 woglinde my original goal was to install the newest kernel onto the board Nov 19 09:37:34 through_sorsemer sd-card or emmc? Nov 19 09:37:40 woglinde: i think if you follow the guide which is on the git repo for making the kernel you do not need the modules, at least i did it that way Nov 19 09:37:55 don't take my word for granted, just a thought Nov 19 09:38:22 emmc, the sd card isn't mine :| Nov 19 09:39:49 through_sorsemer than try scp it as vvu|Log described it Nov 19 09:40:25 if it does not boot you maybee need to update u-boot too Nov 19 09:50:55 yeahhh the cpu led light is on constantly now and there's no heartbeat Nov 19 09:53:25 is there a reason why my sdcard with boot/ consisting of MLO, u-boot.img, uImage, uEnv.txt, am335x-bone.dtb and Angstrom/ consisting of lib/ would not flash emmc when i hold down the boot button? None of the leds even light besides power :| Nov 19 09:58:47 Does it boot without the SD card? Nov 19 09:59:09 through_sorsemer: Nov 19 09:59:35 jjc yes Nov 19 10:01:49 through_sorsemer: does it flash the standard angstrom image from beagleboard.org? Nov 19 10:01:57 http://beagleboard.org/latest-images Nov 19 10:04:03 jjc i don't currently have an sd card with that on it, but i don't know why it wouldnt. it did a week ago Nov 19 10:06:12 hi everybody, i'm new here, i'm just trying to register a new project (diyforfree.blogspot.fr/2013/11/beaglebone-black-manager.html) on the project website, but after filling each field and send the form, i got the following error: "Unhandled Macro: this.edit_skin". Did any of you got the same issue ? Nov 19 10:15:19 woglinde: thanks for your help. time to get a nap in before class in the morning Nov 19 10:24:53 jeremyb_ ugly swing interface Nov 19 10:25:23 hopefully we can use openjfx soon Nov 19 10:50:00 woglinde yes i agree with you, screenshots have not been updated since the released version . Nov 19 11:28:16 Hi all. I write the DTO cape-bone-iio to my capemgr.8 to enable Analog Inputs on my BBB, But the path to the AINx Pins is not exactly the same after reboot and writing the DTO again. The path is /sys/devices/ocp.2/helper.14/AINx, but sometimes it's helper.11, sometimes helper.18 ... Nov 19 11:29:26 Is this correct? My problem is, that i want to use the Pins in a program and don't want to implement a logic, that has to determine the path at every program start again and again Nov 19 11:30:03 sometimes opening /sys/devices/ocp.2/helper.*/AINx works... but maybe it is by your shell Nov 19 11:31:01 Does this syntax with * work into C/C++ code? Nov 19 11:31:08 don't know Nov 19 11:31:48 you could try a loop which tries to open every file and break when it succeeded Nov 19 11:32:12 I will have a short try using the * syntax in c++ Nov 19 11:33:03 $ DIR=`ls /sys/devices/ocp.*` ./yourprogram... and use getenv("DIR") Nov 19 11:33:18 (a 'bit' ugly, i admit Nov 19 11:33:20 ) Nov 19 11:37:58 Okay, I can try this. C++ cannot handle 'helper.*' Nov 19 11:42:47 hi... where are in Linux driver information file for a device plugged on USB? for example i plugged usb device and with lsusb i view Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0403:6001 Future Technology Devices International, Ltd FT232 USB-Serial (UART ) IC where is this string: Future Technology Devices International, Ltd FT232 USB-Serial (UART ) IC... in which file is? Nov 19 11:43:19 in /sys/devices/ocp.3/47400000.usb/musb-hdrc.1.auto/usb1/1-1 i view only manufacturer, vendor but i dont view driver name.. Nov 19 11:49:25 Quinto: /sys/bus/usb/ Nov 19 11:49:32 Quinto: but use lsusb instead Nov 19 11:49:50 unless you know chapter9 by heart Nov 19 11:50:34 KotH: i view 4 folder Nov 19 11:50:48 devices drivers drivers_autoprobe drivers_probe uevent Nov 19 11:53:17 yes Nov 19 11:53:34 actually, you see 2 directories and 3 files Nov 19 11:53:38 you dont see any folders Nov 19 11:53:51 this is not macos or winodws, it's a unix, unix dont have folders, they have directories Nov 19 11:55:29 directoris yes Nov 19 11:55:49 but i want that i put a devices with FTDI driver i can view this driver on ttyubs0 Nov 19 11:55:57 but i want that i put a devices with CP201x driver i can view this driver on ttyubs0 Nov 19 11:56:02 which file change? Nov 19 11:58:06 KotH: Nov 19 12:01:25 none in sysfs Nov 19 12:01:31 you want to read up on udev Nov 19 12:04:10 KotH: ? Nov 19 12:05:19 :D Nov 19 12:05:27 i was out Nov 19 12:05:31 13:01 < KotH> none in sysfs Nov 19 12:05:31 13:01 < KotH> you want to read up on udev Nov 19 12:05:36 you can rewrite? Nov 19 12:06:09 ok i use libudev but which is function for read driver name used? Nov 19 12:06:26 * KotH does not know libudev Nov 19 12:07:52 :) Nov 19 12:07:55 ok thanks Nov 19 12:08:52 and a quick look at alans website reveals that libudev is the wrong thing Nov 19 12:09:09 libudev seems to be for walking sysfs, not to configure udev Nov 19 12:09:14 different things Nov 19 12:09:19 read the udev documentation Nov 19 12:12:04 KotH: what? Nov 19 12:12:18 who is alans? Nov 19 12:13:13 try udevadm -a -n /dev/ttyusb0 Nov 19 12:13:15 oops Nov 19 12:13:22 try udevadm info -a -n /dev/ttyusb0 Nov 19 12:16:23 Quinto01: alan ott, chief of signal11 Nov 19 12:16:38 KotH: where is Nov 19 12:16:40 Quinto01: it's one of the first sites that pop up when you google for libudev Nov 19 12:16:46 ok ok Nov 19 12:17:03 Quinto01: try the command I told you.. it should have kernel driver names in the DRIVERS="..." attributes Nov 19 12:17:14 Quinto01: please do yourself and everyone here a favor AND GOOGLE FIRST BEFORE ASKING Nov 19 12:17:32 Quinto01: you have been asking questions that could have been easily answered by googling for the past weeks Nov 19 12:17:44 Quinto01: please please save everyones time and google first Nov 19 12:17:56 everyone including your own Nov 19 12:18:24 Vaizki: actually, i dont care about his time, but about the time of people helping here Nov 19 12:18:40 sure. I was just trying to motivate him :) Nov 19 12:18:47 helping people, no matter whether on irc, on mailinglists or anyhwere else is a huge timesink Nov 19 12:18:58 and it's very rude to waste other peoples time, IMHO Nov 19 12:19:22 yea I try to pitch in myself.. on about 7 channels Nov 19 12:20:52 * KotH should ask for 1chf for each answer he gives Nov 19 12:21:06 i guess, people would then think twice before asking Nov 19 12:24:29 Vaizki: dont work your command Nov 19 12:26:33 Vaizki: ok udevadm info -a -n /dev/ttyUSB0 but i dont view FTDI driver Nov 19 12:26:36 name Nov 19 12:27:34 Quinto01: http://beagleboard.org/chat Nov 19 12:27:46 Quinto01: read that, including the two links there Nov 19 12:27:53