**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Dec 10 02:59:58 2013 Dec 10 04:28:44 just to confirm -- binaries compiled for the A9 will NOT run on the beaglebone black? Dec 10 04:32:26 Thalheim: both cortex-a9 and cortex-a8 are ARMv7 which means as long as your compiler is set for ARMv7 or lower it will run Dec 10 04:33:02 Hello, i am currently working with interfacing LCD with BBB, strange character comes out, doubt it should be initialization problem but have tried lots of initialization sequence but not working, anyone can provide me advice? Dec 10 04:33:57 prpplague: I don't know which settings were used on the compiler; I'm trying to use proprietary drivers and don't have access to the source. All I was told was "They were developed for the A9's" Dec 10 04:34:07 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_processor#Cores Dec 10 04:34:24 Thalheim: recommendation - don't use proprietary drivers Dec 10 04:34:53 BeagleBot: helps if you provide some information about what kind of LCD it is Dec 10 04:34:56 I have no choice; it's for an industrial application and there *are* no other drivers available Dec 10 04:35:36 Thalheim: then without substantially more information, you are probably out of luck Dec 10 04:35:41 is there some sort of general place to talk about TI? Dec 10 04:35:45 k Dec 10 04:36:56 yes it is LCD 16 x 2 HD44780 compatible Dec 10 04:37:15 hylian|surface: hehe, feel free to talk _about_ TI here , there is also a #troll channel, hehe Dec 10 04:37:22 i think i will change my nickname soon, BeagleMon Dec 10 04:37:36 well i'm looking for people interning at ti next summer... Dec 10 04:37:40 ...interested in sharing a room Dec 10 04:37:42 llol Dec 10 04:37:59 *cough* i am sorry Dec 10 04:38:59 hylian|surface: hehe there is a #ti-alumni channel, but that really isn't going to help you since it's populated by folks who were some of the 4000 people laid off last year from TI Dec 10 04:39:10 heh... Dec 10 04:40:47 hylian|surface: generally a few months before getting organized for the intership they have a mailing list for interns to get together for such things as car/travel/accomodations Dec 10 04:40:55 i see Dec 10 04:40:59 thanks! Dec 10 04:47:05 I'm looking for cross development toolchain to run on windows for the BBB. Ideas? Dec 10 04:47:54 How about these from Linaro? https://launchpad.net/linaro-toolchain-binaries/+milestone/2013.11 Dec 10 04:49:25 GumShoe: you could run QEMU in Windows to emulate a BBB Dec 10 04:52:14 Hmm QEMU looks interesting. Sure would like to just use Eclipse on windows for cross development. The toolchains for cross d. are availble for linux. Dec 10 04:53:49 Visual Studio would be even better. I found this on github https://github.com/ckormanyos/real-time-cpp loaded in vs2012 and it compiled using build tools the author built. Dec 10 04:54:04 However it's part of the solution rather than a template. Dec 10 04:55:06 GumShoe: http://beagleboard.org/resources halfway down the page... does that help? Dec 10 04:58:31 The code sourcery? That's a 'lite' version that installs a version of their ide which I belive is a licensed visual studio. Past experiences have soured me on having my normal visual studio and a vendors version. Updates become a nightmare. I'll check it out a bit more though. Dec 10 04:58:57 GumShoe: http://www.yagarto.org/ Dec 10 05:06:20 That link refers to https://launchpad.net/gcc-arm-embedded which I have installed. I've had trouble getting a clean compile. I think I'm not pointing to the correct includes. Dec 10 05:06:57 GumShoe: want me to try to compile it for you on a slightly different system? Dec 10 05:07:44 It compiles on the BBB. Trying to get a cross development IDE setup. It's just helloWorld. Dec 10 05:10:49 I'll try emIDE it might give me some hints to finishing the toolchain setup under Eclipse. Trying not to have to many IDEs... Dec 10 05:42:38 hi Dec 10 05:43:08 anybody there to help me Dec 10 05:44:01 if you ask a question about what you're trying to do, someone might be able to respond Dec 10 05:44:16 but it may take a while Dec 10 05:48:17 how to start beaglebord programming Dec 10 05:49:50 you might want a more specific question... Dec 10 05:54:00 i want to start using beagleboard Dec 10 05:54:06 can anybody healp Dec 10 05:54:20 healp Dec 10 05:54:23 help Dec 10 05:58:31 sudhi: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=start+using+beagleboard Dec 10 05:58:39 how to start beagle bord programming Dec 10 05:59:11 Hello, i am having problem in interfacing a 16 x 2 LCD to BBB, anybody can provide assistance? Dec 10 06:01:55 strange character comes out despite of various initialization protocol implemented, sometimes instruction sent is not interpreted by the LCD Dec 10 06:09:06 how are you driving it? Dec 10 06:09:10 GPIOs or LIDD? Dec 10 06:09:26 <_av500_> LIDD? Dec 10 06:09:39 the accelerator in the chip Dec 10 06:10:07 <_av500_> if somethin' needs acceleratin' its that :) Dec 10 06:10:15 hahahaaha Dec 10 06:10:28 think it only works for the parallel wiring configuration Dec 10 06:12:14 hi, i'm newbie . i have a problem . I have debuged GPIO sample OK on eclipse. but,if i exit eclipse, and plug in again, it doesn't work. i don't know how to run my project when i plug in 5V DC Dec 10 06:13:01 i think i need setup it in startup , but i don't know how , can u help me ? Dec 10 06:18:24 sorry are you referring to my post previously? Dec 10 06:19:16 i am driving it using GPIO Dec 10 06:19:38 is there a problem with it? Dec 10 06:20:46 I'm looking for someone that has experience configureing Eclipse under windows to cross develope from windows to the BBB. Dec 10 06:24:11 how are you wiring it, beagleMon? Dec 10 06:24:17 parallel? serial? 8bit? 4bit? Dec 10 06:49:42 i think should be serial, 8 bit Dec 10 06:50:15 i have even tried 4 bit Dec 10 06:50:27 still sam eproblem persist Dec 10 06:51:49 Hello everyone, I am new user for angstrom and beagle-bone board also, and I want to set our company app on this board for that my first step to set company logo on start-up screen for that I have to change start-up logo of beagle-bone black, when I update angstrom OS then start-up logo go off and just Angstrom(logo) come and when I changed background then Angstrom(logo) also gone... At this time just black screen came on start-up p Dec 10 06:52:59 driving the 8 bits through GPIO based on instruction then toggle the enable, either strange character comes out or instruction not responded by LCD Dec 10 07:07:51 Anyone want to look at this console log from a build in Eclipse where I attempt to cross develope from Windows/eclipse to BBB http://pastebin.com/6Q0HMuNN Dec 10 07:09:14 check ur timing Dec 10 07:09:16 those suckers are slow Dec 10 07:09:29 I'm particulary curious about the -mcpu=arm8 Is that correct for BBB? Dec 10 08:45:38 it takes more than that Dec 10 09:04:00 Can anyone help in enabling 6LoWPAN in beaglebone white Dec 10 09:09:35 beagle13: use the power of google Dec 10 09:10:02 Hi Dec 10 09:21:21 Lo Dec 10 09:30:18 that means i have to make the data transfer faster? Dec 10 09:32:00 slower rather Dec 10 09:32:10 check the protocol wiht a scope Dec 10 09:35:14 <@av500> actually i have been testing with that, if i toggle the enable and release it faster or slower, fastest i have tested is 2 ms slowest is 10 s Dec 10 09:36:46 the faster method sometimes not responding, slowest one i noticed the LCD keep on changing despite holding the enable constant Dec 10 09:41:44 <@av500> i am not sure what scope you referred to, but i have probed with a multimeter the signal is responding between the connection Dec 10 09:43:04 an oscilloscope Dec 10 09:43:10 if you have access to one Dec 10 09:43:41 yes i have that, but may i know what is the parameter of interest? Dec 10 09:44:12 checking that the signals you produce adhere to the data sheet Dec 10 09:44:16 like setup and hold times Dec 10 09:45:28 data sheet mentioned at least more than 0.1 ms longest is about 4.1 ms and what i have tested is more than that Dec 10 09:46:33 <@av500> so your opiniion is that i have to match the setup, hold and fall time to see any discrepancy with the datasheet? Dec 10 09:46:50 if there is means LCD fault? Dec 10 09:47:09 I doubt its faulty Dec 10 09:47:15 most likely you do "something wrong" Dec 10 09:47:19 but I cannot tell from here Dec 10 09:47:44 hmm, thats true but i have no point to start from Dec 10 09:48:02 have tested 3 LCD it shouldnt be that problem Dec 10 09:48:13 3 lcd and? Dec 10 09:48:18 they work? Dec 10 09:48:26 no, same problem Dec 10 09:48:37 ah Dec 10 09:48:42 so: most likely you do "something wrong" Dec 10 09:48:48 is beagleboard black support android Dec 10 09:48:55 yes Dec 10 09:49:11 a CPU does not care what SW it runs Dec 10 09:49:26 programming wise i am just doing simple thing, using cloud IDE Dec 10 09:49:55 <@av500> yes, please continue enlighting me Dec 10 09:50:07 well Dec 10 09:50:31 programming a HD44780 is rather trivial Dec 10 09:50:35 so check again all your signals Dec 10 09:50:44 or maybe pastebin your code Dec 10 09:51:02 from beableboard black documentaion it says android will support soon ,is it now support Dec 10 09:51:57 http://icculus.org/~hendersa/android/ Dec 10 09:52:04 https://www.google.com/search?q=android+beaglebone+black Dec 10 09:52:48 my code is very simple just setting signal of D0-D7 high with respect to RS signal then after a certain period of time and toggle the enable signal Dec 10 09:52:49 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeSt1Y7FhEs Dec 10 09:52:49 can we enable UART Dec 10 09:53:59 R/W was connected to ground Dec 10 09:54:22 can we enable UART Dec 10 09:54:43 can we enable UART in BBB Dec 10 09:55:08 we can, but i dont know about you ;) Dec 10 09:56:33 on mine it came pre-enabled Dec 10 09:57:05 ??, you mean the LCD? Dec 10 09:57:34 that means its a custom made? Dec 10 09:58:39 hmm the enable part what people did is to connect it to switch, what i did is toggling using GPIO instead Dec 10 09:59:55 dont think it should be much problem Dec 10 09:59:56 Hi... Is there any possible way to create a custom build of android over BBB with UART enabled...??? Dec 10 10:03:14 yes, of course there is Dec 10 10:22:59 how to change the baudrate of uart2 Dec 10 10:32:44 https://www.google.com/search?q=linux+set+baud+rate Dec 10 10:44:04 how to change the moneyrate of job2 Dec 10 10:59:58 somesomething: does your boss have a daughter? Dec 10 11:45:32 hi.. is there any new driver to be written for getting UART data from BBB Dec 10 11:45:36 ? Dec 10 11:46:11 i have interest in renewable/green energy/new construction design as well as programming. any tips on the right job path? Dec 10 11:47:55 learn mandarin chinese Dec 10 11:48:37 SproutinGeek: no new driver. old driver. why write a new one, when the old one works? Dec 10 11:48:55 mandarin not cantonese? lol Dec 10 12:01:04 LetoThe2nd, out with the old, in with the new we always say Dec 10 12:01:26 mdp: \o/ Dec 10 12:02:23 mdp: ah.. that's why you support ACPI?!? Dec 10 12:03:03 jeet_, hone software engineering skills, apply to work at Nest...they are a high profile GreenEnergyProductsCompany(tm). Be happy. Dec 10 12:03:15 KotH, that's correct Dec 10 12:03:31 KotH, but mostly, it's a standard Dec 10 12:03:39 * KotH nods Dec 10 12:04:07 kick out old gf, move in with new gf Dec 10 12:04:40 meet the new boss...same as the old boss Dec 10 12:05:37 lol Dec 10 12:06:01 looking at nest website the applications are how do i say Dec 10 12:06:05 they seem irrelevant Dec 10 12:06:18 thermostat Dec 10 12:06:22 carbon monoxide detector? Dec 10 12:07:14 yes, co is a major factor that causes people to die Dec 10 12:07:27 more dead people means less people who polute the environment Dec 10 12:07:35 hence you want to optimize your co level Dec 10 12:07:44 and for that you need co detectors Dec 10 12:08:26 lmao Dec 10 12:08:41 i dunno ijust dont get excited about flimsy gadgets Dec 10 12:10:15 i guess i'm looking for a cool job Dec 10 12:10:21 but don't know if exists Dec 10 12:10:39 someone told me to be a plumber Dec 10 12:10:41 like, money for nothing, and chicks for free? Dec 10 12:10:54 if i wanted people to put crisp dollar bills in my hand Dec 10 12:11:16 they said engineering is bunk. something about clients always complaining Dec 10 12:11:52 nah like "i design electrical systems for buildings/aircraft/transportation systems" maybe Dec 10 12:12:05 "i design computer chips" doesnt have the same ring to it Dec 10 12:12:10 that's the touble with you young scallwags of today.. you expect to start in a the top instead of working up from the bottom! Dec 10 12:12:14 if you want to save the planet, study mechanics and develop a diesel enigine that saves 1% fuel on largest scale engines. Dec 10 12:12:24 hey i just want to work at the right bottom Dec 10 12:12:29 so i make it to the right top Dec 10 12:12:40 also no offense, but dont group me with todays young peddlers Dec 10 12:12:42 i am top of class Dec 10 12:12:50 not to sound cocky or anything Dec 10 12:12:54 great, we are all super proud of you. Dec 10 12:13:04 * LetoThe2nd throws some confetti Dec 10 12:13:10 lol Dec 10 12:13:24 jeet_: how old are you and what's your education level? Dec 10 12:13:34 26, bachelor of engineering electrical Dec 10 12:13:43 what uni? Dec 10 12:13:51 McMaster Dec 10 12:13:57 in canada Dec 10 12:14:15 hmm.. never heard of Dec 10 12:14:23 not the best i know. i hate that it has not an outstanding reputation Dec 10 12:14:34 and what took you so long to get a bachelor? Dec 10 12:14:35 i always told myself it didnt matter where u come from, it matters what you can do Dec 10 12:14:41 indecision i suppose Dec 10 12:15:07 it doesnt matter whether your uni has an outstanding reputation or not, what matters is whether you learn something or not Dec 10 12:16:54 so.. if you are top of class, go to berkley, stanford, mit, eth, karlsruhe,... and study something there Dec 10 12:17:15 todai and waseda shouldnt be too bad either Dec 10 12:17:25 i believe i learned very little of what i could have. also i kind of messed up a few grades in later years i can show u grades if u want Dec 10 12:17:33 and i dont know if more school is the way Dec 10 12:17:35 my family is poor Dec 10 12:17:43 more school is always good Dec 10 12:17:54 is it? Dec 10 12:17:57 unless you just use it to have a good life, not much to do and meet girls Dec 10 12:18:19 yes, it is Dec 10 12:18:30 you are talking to someone who has been enrolled for 9y and counting.. Dec 10 12:18:38 ok i will consider it despite your potential bias Dec 10 12:18:57 ofc, you an do great without school Dec 10 12:19:00 not to sound like a jerk or anyhting Dec 10 12:19:04 but it's harder and you need to be good Dec 10 12:19:08 which you are obviously not Dec 10 12:19:35 obviously not? Dec 10 12:19:45 also as an aside, do u know UofT? Dec 10 12:23:24 i've met a graduate of UofT in tokyo. good guy, a bit weird, but a good drinking budy Dec 10 12:23:59 please explain 'which you are obviously not' Dec 10 12:24:51 hello all Dec 10 12:25:07 Im a bit new with the beagle bone black Dec 10 12:25:21 should i register the serial umber some where?? Dec 10 12:25:51 jeet_: well, i've met a lot of great people. the ones that were at your age, behaved differently. a lot differently. Dec 10 12:26:17 can you be more specific? Dec 10 12:26:25 KotH, another brainwashing victim. Dec 10 12:26:35 jeet_: you're way too cocky Dec 10 12:26:40 9 years of schooling must have got to him Dec 10 12:26:57 cocky? based on what? Dec 10 12:27:02 jeet_: you have not found something that interests you so much that you life just for that one thing Dec 10 12:27:20 also so called 'great people' are often cocky no? Dec 10 12:27:21 mdp: jeet_ or me? :) Dec 10 12:27:23 'cocky' Dec 10 12:27:27 no, they arent Dec 10 12:27:34 KotH, everybody with an education ;) Dec 10 12:27:36 maybe to you they are Dec 10 12:27:41 mdp: hehe Dec 10 12:27:45 KotH, I'm so brainwashed I have nfc Dec 10 12:27:50 u dont think albert einstein was cocky? Dec 10 12:28:05 jeet_: einstein dropped out of highschool, twice Dec 10 12:28:07 jeet_: the difference is that great people are called great by others. people who call themselves great are being cocky Dec 10 12:28:16 i never called mysefl great Dec 10 12:28:16 jeet_: he barely made it trough uni Dec 10 12:28:18 i said i was top of class Dec 10 12:28:22 which is an objective fact Dec 10 12:28:27 great Dec 10 12:28:28 jeet_: the job he got was rather low for his education Dec 10 12:28:38 * LetoThe2nd likes more to be called "taily", but thats a side fact. Dec 10 12:28:43 i dont understand why you think i am cocky Dec 10 12:28:55 jeet_: top of class by what measure? Dec 10 12:28:58 jeet_: grades? Dec 10 12:29:00 yes Dec 10 12:29:07 *sigh* Dec 10 12:29:09 also i often peer tutored Dec 10 12:29:15 sigh? please explain Dec 10 12:29:28 grades are a good thing, but they dont mean much in reality Dec 10 12:29:34 it's all irrelevant to the job market Dec 10 12:29:43 the best engineers i know had rather low grades Dec 10 12:30:04 only a few had good grades Dec 10 12:30:18 i accept your apology Dec 10 12:30:25 mdp: not entirely. for the first job they matter. at least around here Dec 10 12:30:36 i did not appologize Dec 10 12:30:39 KotH, that's such a tiny window on one's career ;) Dec 10 12:30:44 mdp: true :) Dec 10 12:31:13 mdp: i was surprised that at my first job interview, i was asked why i got such a "low" grade for my master thesis Dec 10 12:31:16 jeet_: your being cocky is all about your approach. you came here, you said "hey, i'm looking for a cool job. but i don't want this, that, and this. and im top of class. so just tell me what to do." Dec 10 12:31:26 KotH, and yes, 100% agreed. but it also has no bearing on success as an engineering education has only an indirect relationship to the work done on the job. Dec 10 12:31:41 mdp: yes Dec 10 12:31:54 ...as both our experiences have taught us. Dec 10 12:31:55 jeet_: what LetoThe2nd said Dec 10 12:31:55 jeet_: instead of just *doing* something. if you have done something cool yourself, people *with* cool jobs will call you. not the other way round. Dec 10 12:32:36 mdp: i must say, i'm still in awe of that girl, who started together with me. she was 16 back then. asked stupid questions all the time. but when it came to the exams, she was always at the top. Dec 10 12:32:52 LetoThe2nd i have come for some ideas Dec 10 12:32:54 mdp: and she turned out to be a good engineer too, although it's not really her cup of tea Dec 10 12:32:57 i got right to the point Dec 10 12:33:01 i dont see any fault in that Dec 10 12:33:14 perhaps if you do you can explain why Dec 10 12:33:19 mdp: went into project managment/R&D later Dec 10 12:33:22 besides 'i should be doing instead of asking' Dec 10 12:33:48 jeet_: first thing: figure out what you like Dec 10 12:33:51 but to your point, it is a good one, i should work on some project myself hmm Dec 10 12:33:58 jeet_: it's the first and most important thing for success Dec 10 12:34:07 i totally agree and it is my main goal at this time Dec 10 12:34:24 jeet_, did you intern/co-op? that's a huge differentiator if you haven't done some kind of FOSS project. Dec 10 12:34:44 yes i have held 3 summer jobs at utility company and one at microchip company Dec 10 12:34:52 all of which were in my opinion terrible Dec 10 12:35:19 jeet_: because its also about having the ideas. any idiot can make a crown cap. but the one that had the *idea* gets the fame. the people that get told "hey, make a crown cap, here's the way" - nobody is interested in them Dec 10 12:35:51 jeet_, we learn important lessons in the most terrible of experiences. I assure you, it won't be the last terrible job experience Dec 10 12:36:12 jeet_: so actually the first step is to find out what you want to do. instead of people asking what to do. treadmill workers need to be told what to do. Dec 10 12:36:28 you learn what doesn't work, types of poor process and mgmt styles...failed work environments..and learn how to adapt Dec 10 12:37:58 just want to say i appreciate you guys sharing this Dec 10 12:38:03 it is good food for my thoughts Dec 10 12:38:19 jeet_: besides, if i had the super great idea to save the planet, be rich and all that - do you think i would give it away in a random channel? rather than exploiting it myself in my secret unground laboratories? Dec 10 12:38:42 * av500 does not like his laboratories ground Dec 10 12:39:15 great idea: create a device to give you great ideas. Dec 10 12:39:27 but on the other hand, we already have the magic 8 ball. Dec 10 12:39:35 so, scratch that. Dec 10 12:39:40 and it guides our actions on a daily basis Dec 10 12:40:10 great idea: make an electric device that can brighten the night. Dec 10 12:40:27 but on the other hand, we already have that. and i like darkness better. Dec 10 12:40:32 scratch that again. Dec 10 12:40:39 LetoThe2nd: därkness :) Dec 10 12:40:48 figure out what you like/want to do. so thinking about this i have some question, what is the most important. the daily tasks, the type of work (i work on airplanes, buildings, computers, etc.). the people you work with? or is it more individual preference? perhaps from your experience you can shed some light on the relative importance? Dec 10 12:40:57 make an electric device that can show boobies! Dec 10 12:41:17 grated, we already have that. but i see marketing opportunities! Dec 10 12:42:27 jeet_: it's always an individual thing Dec 10 12:42:34 jeet_: do what you like and you'll be good at it Dec 10 12:42:54 jeet_: worst thing you can do is to be good at something you hate Dec 10 12:43:06 so it is a judgement call then? i mean to say you never know how the job will be til you get there Dec 10 12:43:16 yes Dec 10 12:43:25 drat Dec 10 12:43:28 and whether you like the job or not will change Dec 10 12:43:36 sometimes even overnight Dec 10 12:43:59 but as you grow more experienced, you will know what kind of jobs you will possibly like and which not Dec 10 12:44:18 you will like the job on Friday afternoon Dec 10 12:44:33 unless you have to work over the weekend Dec 10 12:45:15 you guys are funny i want to work with you Dec 10 12:45:52 but i dunno what we'd do Dec 10 12:46:02 start our own e-coaching Dec 10 12:46:18 * av500 works on lunch Dec 10 12:47:48 i shot the idea of more schooling past someone Dec 10 12:47:58 they replied, i should consider it. but schooling does not mean having to go to school Dec 10 12:48:26 thoughts on the matter at your conveniences are greatly appreciated Dec 10 12:49:11 schooling itself is not the important thing Dec 10 12:49:15 my view was always that school provided a social structure/social support to study Dec 10 12:49:16 what is important that you learn something Dec 10 12:49:21 motivating yourself alone can be difficult Dec 10 12:49:23 does not necessarily be at some school Dec 10 12:49:48 * KotH uses uni only to get concentrated knowledge Dec 10 12:50:03 meaning? Dec 10 12:50:12 i mean, dont books contain the knowledge? Dec 10 12:50:29 books contain knowledge too, but usually not as concentrated Dec 10 12:50:41 the lectures then? Dec 10 12:50:55 the lectures/assignments are an accelerated form of learning? Dec 10 12:51:03 eg, reading a book on social psychology takes you 2-3 months and you will not be able to remember all the important things Dec 10 12:51:05 i.e. the prof guides you on the right path Dec 10 12:51:22 going to a lecture takes less time, and you will have someone who will point out the important stuff Dec 10 12:51:43 yes fair point. so let me ask, can anyone sit in a lecture? Dec 10 12:51:44 at least, that's the way how it is for me Dec 10 12:51:47 i.e. if im not enrolled Dec 10 12:51:51 depends on your university Dec 10 12:58:31 you can always sneak in Dec 10 12:58:51 or hide in the drop ceiling Dec 10 13:13:07 say you work as a programmer, will it be difficult to transition into something like electrical design? (i realize this is a subjective question, thoughts appreciated nonetheless) Dec 10 13:13:33 i don't give much weight to my thoughts as they contain little experience backing Dec 10 13:16:25 a guy with a ph.d once told me it depends on your perseverance Dec 10 13:18:19 also appreciated, thoughts on work that requires travel. Dec 10 13:19:30 can any one please tell me what will happen if i delete the MLO file and then reset Dec 10 13:21:50 hi everyone, anybody can help me with instalation Win CE? Dec 10 13:21:57 no Dec 10 13:22:13 why? Dec 10 13:22:14 ask the one that sold it to you Dec 10 13:22:26 because we have no idea Dec 10 13:22:41 eh =( Dec 10 13:22:54 why would you use winCE? Dec 10 13:23:24 i have some solution based on win Dec 10 13:23:39 sounds more like you have a problem based on win Dec 10 13:23:44 and i have no idea how to work with linux Dec 10 13:24:01 Andrew: since I assume you are commercial, there are companies providing winCE support Dec 10 13:24:04 all of the people that participate on this channel know linux Dec 10 13:24:14 if you are doing this for fun, you are into weird fun Dec 10 13:24:16 there's never been any winCE support Dec 10 13:24:34 can any one please tell me what will happen if i delete the MLO file and then reset Dec 10 13:24:44 it will explode Dec 10 13:24:58 nice nice people... Dec 10 13:24:58 CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC Dec 10 13:25:21 Andrew: its the truth, we cannot offer winCE help Dec 10 13:25:38 sefat: most likely it wont boot Dec 10 13:26:01 yeap mine didnt boot ... Dec 10 13:26:04 sefat, or you get the output I showed above Dec 10 13:26:11 on your serial console Dec 10 13:26:30 mdp: "serial" is that from the Reagan era? Dec 10 13:26:30 i cant flash new os Dec 10 13:26:42 av500, Carter Dec 10 13:27:04 sefat, we don't know what board you have Dec 10 13:27:11 BBB Dec 10 13:27:19 do you have a serial cable? Dec 10 13:27:25 nope Dec 10 13:27:31 if not, you should acquire one to see what's going on Dec 10 13:27:31 sefat: prepare SD card Dec 10 13:27:34 insert Dec 10 13:27:36 boot Dec 10 13:28:10 thats mean my board is ok Dec 10 13:28:12 ?? Dec 10 13:28:21 most likely Dec 10 13:29:00 thank u ... can i have your mail id to contact you Dec 10 13:29:34 http://beagleboard.org/getting%20started Dec 10 13:29:56 sefat: you are contacting us here Dec 10 13:30:21 i trred to flash a new os bt when i insert an sd card with os the four LEDs just lit and remain unblink Dec 10 13:30:26 if you did not notice, we are talking to you, no? Dec 10 13:30:43 what is the probable cause? Dec 10 13:30:54 bad card Dec 10 13:31:17 sefat, what os? Dec 10 13:31:26 wrong content on card Dec 10 13:32:25 i tried Angstrom-Cloud9-IDE-GNOME-eglibc-ipk-v2012.12-beaglebone-2013.08.21 Dec 10 13:33:03 and other os bt i cant flash wiht any one .. Dec 10 13:33:47 how did you prepare the sd card? Dec 10 13:35:34 http://derekmolloy.ie/write-a-new-image-to-the-beaglebone-black/ .......... i followed the instruction Dec 10 13:35:48 i am using windows Dec 10 13:37:55 my problem is i have no serial cable and i used to connect the BBB using usb ,,,, bt now windows cant detect the board and when i plug the usb then windows tries to find driver for AM335x Dec 10 13:40:51 my problem is i have no serial cable and i used to connect the BBB using usb ,,,, bt now windows cant detect the board and when i plug the usb then windows tries to find driver for AM335x Dec 10 13:41:02 yes, we can read Dec 10 13:41:29 how to solve this problem? Dec 10 13:43:12 is there any way to slove the problem ... can i use the TI's Flash v1,6 to flash new os Dec 10 13:43:46 power off Dec 10 13:43:49 hold the boot button Dec 10 13:43:52 power on Dec 10 13:44:11 can you connect the sdcard to your PC? Dec 10 13:44:18 with a a card reader? Dec 10 13:44:23 and check the content? Dec 10 13:44:42 i have tried this many times bt nothing happens and yeap i can connedt the sd card with pc Dec 10 13:45:00 sorry *connect Dec 10 13:45:18 and what do you see? Dec 10 13:46:13 several filse like tha MLO file ... and other files .... with in about 60 to 70 MB .. Dec 10 13:47:03 ok Dec 10 13:47:05 looks good Dec 10 13:47:15 card right side in? Dec 10 13:48:00 sorry .. Dec 10 13:49:19 my uEnv.txt contains only " optargs=quiet " is htat ok ... ?? Dec 10 13:50:54 yes Dec 10 13:50:59 when i power up the board with out or with the sd card and connect it with pc nothing happens and pc cant recognize it as BBB .... and i cant see the files os eMMc Dec 10 13:51:00 you dont need uenv normally Dec 10 13:52:08 sefat: which image? Dec 10 13:52:21 if you use the flasher image, it takes like 45min to flash Dec 10 13:52:29 during that time, it wont connect to the PC I think Dec 10 13:53:01 BBB-eMMC-flasher-2013.06.20 Dec 10 13:53:53 i tried with this bt the 4 LEDs didnt blincked bt reamin unblinked and i waited abour 2 hours .... nothing happens Dec 10 13:55:57 i have also tried with these ... bt didnt succeed .... :( .. Angstrom-Cloud9-IDE-GNOME-eglibc-ipk-v2012.12-beaglebone-2013.08.21.img .....debian-wheezy-7.0.0-armhf-3.8.13-bone20 .....ubuntu-saucy-13.10-armhf-3.8.13-bone30 Dec 10 13:56:53 is there any way to flash the eMMC wiht out the sd card .... ? Dec 10 13:58:47 i am stuck wiht this problem and now i am frustrated ... plz help me Dec 10 13:59:11 I dont know what to do Dec 10 13:59:18 you could get a serial cable Dec 10 14:00:56 can you give me any link referencing the interface of serial cable Dec 10 15:38:37 ok, so I tested the outputs and the ouputs are firing giving 3.3volts. Dec 10 15:39:25 The p2222A is not. What should I drop the resister on the base to? 300? I tried down to 1k and it is still not working. Dec 10 15:40:52 I have an led at 12vdc I am trying to energize. Very little current so I dont understand why it is not working. Dec 10 15:42:11 gpio => 1k resister => base P2222A, emitter P2222A => ground, collector => led ground leg, + side LED to 12vdc. Dec 10 15:42:29 I tied the ground of 12vdc power supply to gnd of BBB. Dec 10 16:03:00 Hi Dec 10 16:06:41 I can't use a couple of GPIO in my BBB. I'm using javascript and i use the blink code example, with the pin "P8_19" works fine, but i try to change it to te pin lets say "P8_46" and doesn't do anything. Dec 10 16:07:39 what does you DT look like? Dec 10 16:07:46 have you set up pin muxing correctly? Dec 10 16:08:57 Pit_, you probably are using HDMI Dec 10 16:09:04 P8_46 conflicts Dec 10 16:10:08 Im not im have it conect through USB to my desktop Dec 10 16:10:20 KotH DT? Dec 10 16:11:35 device tree Dec 10 16:12:07 it does not matter whether you use HDMI or not. it matters whether HDMI is configured or not Dec 10 16:15:22 How do i change it? Dec 10 16:15:36 Hi guys Dec 10 16:15:48 Haven't been on IRC for a while Dec 10 16:16:02 Still waiting for the ASL question... Dec 10 16:17:20 Anybody know if the Beaglebone Black A5C board will cause problems due to ground bounce when using the analog inputs? Dec 10 16:18:13 Pit_: use google to find the relevant documentation Dec 10 16:18:21 Pit_: you are not the first one to do this Dec 10 16:18:37 jonnie: asl? Dec 10 16:18:58 jonnie: and can you please choose a female nick? so the asl question makes sense Dec 10 16:19:13 Koth: hahaha Dec 10 16:19:22 that's better! Dec 10 16:19:42 jeanette: well, if you want to do analog measurements, you need to know how your currents are flowing Dec 10 16:19:47 jeanette: propper grounding is paramount Dec 10 16:20:07 Okay! but.. that happens with other pins that are used for other porpuse?!? like spi and stuff? Dec 10 16:20:18 A6 had a better ground connection on the crystal Dec 10 16:20:25 ok I'm talking about the revision Dec 10 16:20:25 as detailed http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack#Revision_A6_.28Production_Version.29 Dec 10 16:20:47 purposes* Dec 10 16:20:47 just wondering if the crystal timing will negatively affect the ADC Dec 10 16:21:27 jeanette: hmm.. i dont know anything about the different revisions. i wouldnt be surprised if they improved the ground concept from revision to revision Dec 10 16:21:53 Pit_: then they are not available for GPIO Dec 10 16:21:59 Pit_: google for the term "pinmux" Dec 10 16:22:25 Koth: OK. I've never heard of ground bounce for a crystal so I wasn't sure how it would impact the other chips Dec 10 16:22:34 jeanette: the crystall shouldnt affect much around it. as the current flowing is quite local... but as with EMI one cannot be sure :) Dec 10 16:22:51 hmm ok Dec 10 16:23:14 I suspect it would have been a major issue for a lot of people if it were Dec 10 16:23:25 jeanette: oh.. crystals do cause modulations in the ground potential. it's just usually a small one. and most chips have gnd pins near the oscillator inputs and outputs for the return current Dec 10 16:23:26 I can't get my hands on an A6 so I might just grab the A5 Dec 10 16:23:54 KotH: thanks! Dec 10 16:24:17 Koth: Thanks for being so helpful, cutie. ;) Dec 10 16:24:45 jeanette: no problem. i do everything for cute girls like you ;) Dec 10 16:24:50 I'll PM you my pix Dec 10 16:24:52 haha Dec 10 16:24:55 hehe Dec 10 16:25:09 now I remember why I got away! Dec 10 16:25:12 All men are the same! Dec 10 16:25:15 hahaha Dec 10 16:25:18 thanks again Dec 10 16:25:20 see you Dec 10 16:29:18 Anyone have a standard easy to get transistor for the gpio output that is capable of energizing a 5 or 12vdc relay? Dec 10 16:29:38 some darlington driver Dec 10 16:29:51 ULN2803 or so Dec 10 16:29:56 google it Dec 10 16:30:01 web is full of examples Dec 10 16:30:09 I have been, I have two differnt types and neither works Dec 10 16:30:48 copied one exactly with an S8050tl and it wont turn on the tranny Dec 10 16:31:16 and you measure a voltage on the base? Dec 10 16:31:19 hahaha, waiting for the kickbacks on that one. Dec 10 16:31:30 3.3v from the BBB Dec 10 16:31:55 When I turn on the output Dec 10 16:32:35 well, not much to say from here Dec 10 16:33:33 What do I have to look for in the datasheet to select the proper resistor connected to the base? Dec 10 16:34:52 1k seems ok Dec 10 16:38:22 They all use led's testing outputs on the BBB. I'm looking for tranny driven examples. very few of them Dec 10 16:38:27 R2E4_: as i explained yesterday: i_b * beta = i_c Dec 10 16:38:34 R2E4_: as i explained yesterday: i_b * beta >= i_c Dec 10 16:38:46 R2E4_: otherwise i_c will be limited by i_b Dec 10 16:40:55 and pin characteristics you need are in the am335x datasheet Dec 10 16:42:05 http://pdf.datasheetcatalog.com/datasheets2/50/50898_2.pdf where do you get the beta from. datasheet doesnt show it neither ib Dec 10 16:42:25 mdp: iirc he said something about 100mA i_c and a 2n2222, which translates into ~1mA i_b Dec 10 16:42:53 KotH, awesome, doable i_b! Dec 10 16:43:16 R2E4_: as i told you before: h_fe is your beta Dec 10 16:43:59 35 @ .1ma Dec 10 16:44:35 you are driving 100mA Dec 10 16:44:41 so your beta is min 100 Dec 10 16:44:48 anybody knows if the QiLiCape (http://ioclk.com/beagebone-qilicape-a-wireless-power-charger-cape-for-beaglebone/) is being commercialized? Dec 10 16:45:15 or maybe an email to contact the guy? (I already tried filling the form) Dec 10 16:45:24 it seem pretty nice :) Dec 10 16:45:35 vmayoral: contact author Dec 10 16:47:36 I just ordered a QI charger PCB today Dec 10 16:48:20 equates to 33 ohm resistor. That doesnt make sense Dec 10 16:49:09 KotH, I'm staring longingly at my microelectronics textbook on the bookshelf. Dec 10 16:49:09 KotH: i have not been able to find much information this cape, it seems there's a guy in the element14 forums behind it. Somebody with "danteo" id. Dec 10 16:49:17 av500: where did you order it from? Dec 10 16:49:24 aliexpress of course :) Dec 10 16:50:35 R2E4_: https://www.google.com/search?q=relay+driver+circuit Dec 10 16:50:42 R2E4_: read a couple of the descriptions there Dec 10 16:50:44 I'm going to get a pot and find the correct resistance....hehe' Dec 10 16:51:01 pot always helps Dec 10 16:51:14 R2E4_: also consider that you might have killed your transistor already, if you forgot the free wheel diode Dec 10 16:51:40 theres nothing attached to the collector. just measuring voltage Dec 10 16:52:12 I never connected relay yet Dec 10 16:52:16 just an led Dec 10 16:52:54 ^^' Dec 10 17:03:51 guys I have a question......I connect to internet using a dsl modem wherein I connect using pppoe after entering the username and password provided by my ISP in windows. Is there a way to connect on the beagle bone similarly Dec 10 17:04:30 you mean connect the bone to the internet? Dec 10 17:04:45 get a $15 DSL router Dec 10 17:04:47 let it connect Dec 10 17:04:52 connect your PC and BBB to that Dec 10 17:07:00 Yes i mean connecting the BBB to the internet Dec 10 17:08:22 I have a DSL router but I can connect to the net only after I enter the username and password..how do I do that on the bone? Dec 10 17:08:36 https://www.google.com/search?q=linux+pppoe+client Dec 10 17:08:49 I would get a router Dec 10 17:11:08 get a router Dec 10 17:11:10 it's easier Dec 10 17:11:33 ppp is not for the faint of heart Dec 10 17:12:19 ok thanx people :) Dec 10 18:19:24 Good afternoon, Dec 10 18:20:00 I'm looking for instructions on how to enable I2C2 on Beaglebone Black, does this require re-building the Kernel? Dec 10 18:21:57 no idea, by I2C2 are you infering there is a second I2C interface? Dec 10 18:33:55 I think so, pins 19 and 20 on header P9 Dec 10 18:37:45 keneth, no Dec 10 18:38:14 No meaning I don't have to rebuild the kernel? Dec 10 18:38:49 If I do i2cdetect -l, it shows i2c-0 and i2c-1. Do these refer to I2C1 and I2C2 or is I2C0 internal on the board somewhere Dec 10 18:46:18 keneth, correct, no was in answer to your question. Dec 10 18:46:44 Thanks you, is there anywhere I can obtain instructions on how to enable I2C2? Dec 10 18:48:39 http://datko.net/2013/11/03/bbb_i2c/ Dec 10 18:49:04 http://derekmolloy.ie/beaglebone/beaglebone-an-i2c-tutorial-interfacing-to-a-bma180-accelerometer/ Dec 10 18:49:34 http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BMP_on_the_Beagle_Bone_Black Dec 10 18:49:48 It's working. It helps if the input is hitting the base of the tranny instead of the pin next to it on the breakout board.....Thanks and sorry for the newbiness. Dec 10 18:55:02 Great, thank you. It seems this bus is already enable on my board Dec 10 18:58:32 One more question, I tested I2C2- which is /dev/i2c-1 on BBB, and it worked fine, but when I plugged it in 2 pins above on I2C1, which I assume is /dev/i2c-0 it did not respond and the address is within the testing range and is no occupied Dec 10 18:59:11 Do you know if this is correct, I2C1 (pins 17 and 18) are /dev/i2c-0 ? Dec 10 18:59:20 check the sources Dec 10 18:59:29 ? Dec 10 18:59:36 the numbers in /dev are the order the buses were instaniated Dec 10 18:59:54 hmm, how can I check this? Dec 10 19:01:05 keneth, it's enabled because i2c2 is where the expansion cape eeproms are found Dec 10 19:01:57 I see, but is I2C1 enabled then? It shows up in i2cdetect but I can't get a read ont he device like I did with I2C2 Dec 10 19:05:50 oh I see "i2c0 is mapped to /dev/i2c-0 but i2c2 is mapped to /dev/i2c-1." so I2C1 is disabled I assume Dec 10 19:18:19 hmm I guess I have anotehr question, I'm trying to type in echo BB-I2C1 > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots but it gives me write error: No Such file or directory. But I can open the slots file in VI. Is this a permissions issue? Dec 10 19:21:01 hi guys Dec 10 19:21:17 do you know How can I talk to someone that tried this: http://beagleboard.org/support/BoneScript/Ultrasonic_Sensor/? Dec 10 19:24:26 keneth I think on mine it was bone_capemgr.8 , even though the docs said 9, you might want to check. Dec 10 19:30:10 It's 9 on mine, I can open the slots file with VI editor, but I can't save it , write to it, or when I do the echo command it gives me a No such file or directory error.. Weird Dec 10 19:30:28 And I tried chmod go+w slots but I still can't write to it Dec 10 19:55:06 keneth, it mentions that in a link I pasted Dec 10 19:56:48 keneth, loading the dtbo as you wrote works for me. perhaps you are running it as an unprivileged user Dec 10 19:58:42 ahh, you tested that, nm Dec 10 20:11:39 mdp, I am running as root, I read that the slots is not really a file but a kernel object? Do you know what I could possibly do to be able to echo commands to it? Dec 10 20:12:18 keneth: echo should work fine. Have you tried restarting the beaglebone and trying again? Sometimes capemgr acts weird Dec 10 20:12:19 it's both..it's a file instantiated by a kernel object using the sysfs virtual filesystem Dec 10 20:12:43 I suggest carpman's idea as I ran the exactsteps here and it works fine Dec 10 20:13:17 Hi Dec 10 20:14:12 I just received my beaglebone black tooday, and I'm verry happy with it. But I've two issues Dec 10 20:16:16 The first one is: If my BBB is pluged to my computer and my computer try to sleep. => blue screen (bugcode_usb_driver) Dec 10 20:16:30 I'm on win 8.1 Dec 10 20:17:47 and the second issue is: I'm trying to play with the fous LEDs and I've made a little script in JS. and I don't understant why my script is not working properly Dec 10 20:17:49 http://pastebin.com/csy6mxT0 Dec 10 20:18:13 four LEDs* Dec 10 20:19:43 hmm I re-booted the system by pwoering it off, I still get the same error Dec 10 20:20:17 WormsCH, doubt you'll find anybody that can support a Windows host here..mostly Linux host people Dec 10 20:20:43 permissions for slots read -rw-r--r-- Dec 10 20:21:09 keneth: is there a file that starts BB-I2C1 in your /lib/firmware Dec 10 20:21:31 ok Dec 10 20:21:45 and what about the script ? Dec 10 20:22:02 no there isn't, I see how this works, so I need to get a dtbo file Dec 10 20:22:17 keneth: thats odd, there should already be one Dec 10 20:22:29 its part of the standard distribution Dec 10 20:23:40 hmm, there are actually no files named I2C Dec 10 20:23:54 and this is the build that came witht he beaglebone Dec 10 20:24:15 keneth: can you pastebin a directory listing of /lib/firmware, I'm curious Dec 10 20:31:50 so, nobody for help me ? Dec 10 20:32:16 WormsCH, probably no bonescript hackers around Dec 10 20:33:04 WormsCH, did you start with the simple example first and found that it works? Dec 10 20:33:40 the script is just supposed to switch on each LED with a delay of 500 ms, then switch off and on again... Dec 10 20:33:57 yep, I start with the simple exemple Dec 10 20:34:05 but did you try a known good simple example? Dec 10 20:34:05 ok, then Dec 10 20:34:15 http://beagleboard.org/Support/BoneScript/demo_blinkled/ Dec 10 20:34:23 I assume you ran this and it worked Dec 10 20:34:29 yep Dec 10 20:35:11 first thing to note is that you probably don't own those other onboard LEDs Dec 10 20:35:24 they are set up with the kernel led triggers for activity Dec 10 20:35:43 but i can use them Dec 10 20:35:46 so that's probably why your program fails when you try to hijack those gpios Dec 10 20:36:14 you probably need to run whatever debugger you would use to debug js and determine what is wrong in your logic..versus what works in the simple example Dec 10 20:37:20 according to this: http://beagleboard.org/Support/bone101/ Dec 10 20:37:26 i can use the 4 leds Dec 10 20:37:39 and I can make them blinking together Dec 10 20:37:44 great Dec 10 20:37:44 it's working Dec 10 20:37:55 but one after one Dec 10 20:38:03 it's working, but only one cycle Dec 10 20:38:16 and it's still writing in the consol the correct values Dec 10 20:39:10 each LEDs switch on, one afert one, then switch off one after one then nothing else Dec 10 20:39:34 but in the consol is still writing the correct message Dec 10 20:43:59 Hey guys, sorry IRC server or client crapped out, did you get the pastebin for my lib/firmware folder? It's www.pastebin.com/dH5ivUyf Dec 10 20:44:05 do you know how to use a debugger? Dec 10 20:44:21 WormsCH, you should try the one built in the Cloud9 or whatever that is..walk through and find your logic error Dec 10 20:44:55 your code is difficult to read, the logic seems overly complicated, and I doubt anybody can tell what your actual goal is with the blinking sequence Dec 10 20:44:56 I can't Dec 10 20:46:43 I'll try the Cloud9 debugger, but the wired thing is: according to the console.log() everything works propely. But "b.digitalWrite(tab[i], state);" seem to works only 8 times Dec 10 20:47:30 what are you /trying/ to do with your code? Dec 10 20:47:32 and the code is difficult to read because i can't find a function to delay in JS Dec 10 20:47:49 keneth: thats... odd. You might try flashing the latest image from http://beagleboard.org/latest-images, 2nd link, the emmc flasher Dec 10 20:47:57 i'm trying to switch each leds one after one, then switch off one after one Dec 10 20:47:58 timeout is the corret dlay function Dec 10 20:48:26 WormsCH: as thurgood said, but 'setTimeout' Dec 10 20:48:33 infinitily? Dec 10 20:48:37 Ok I'll do that, it takes 45 mins right? Dec 10 20:48:53 jkridner|work, that's what he's doing Dec 10 20:48:57 yep infinitily Dec 10 20:49:04 keneth: approximately, depending on the SD card. I have one kingston that takes 45 minutes and one that takes 1.5 hours Dec 10 20:49:13 what does that mean? did he already post his code? Dec 10 20:49:25 keneth, current debian image works Dec 10 20:49:25 yep Dec 10 20:49:26 http://pastebin.com/csy6mxT0 Dec 10 20:49:56 the link you gave me? Dec 10 20:50:05 jkridner|work, we were just waiting on a js person Dec 10 20:50:11 you should simplify your code and not try anything tricky the first time through Dec 10 20:50:44 urgh... stupid TI firewall blocked pastebin.com!!?!? :'( Dec 10 20:51:01 for instance you else if and final else are redundant Dec 10 20:51:28 wouldn't want you pastebinning secret codes :P Dec 10 20:52:21 k, outside the firewall now... Dec 10 20:53:00 Are there any issues with flashing eMMC with a 4gb SD card and a 2gb image, or do I need to get a 2GB SD Card? Dec 10 20:53:06 first thing I notice is that it always seems to be called with state == b.HIGH Dec 10 20:53:28 keneth: no problem there Dec 10 20:53:40 oh, wait, more confusing than that... Dec 10 20:54:30 state = !state Dec 10 20:55:17 jkridner_: state gets changed, but I think there may be a recursion problem, an additional thread is created via the set timeout Dec 10 20:55:42 in addition to the immediate call Dec 10 20:57:21 WormsCH: I suspect http://pastebin.com/9nbFJCLs does what you want Dec 10 20:57:40 ok Dec 10 20:57:46 would you mind me giving a shot at cleaning up the code or do you want to give it a try? Dec 10 20:57:52 I'm trying to do something like that: http://pastebin.com/WF8hxLXY Dec 10 20:58:04 that's not a real code, just pseudocode Dec 10 20:58:44 digitalWrite() doesn't currently take in a boolean, though there was a request to get it to Dec 10 21:00:21 ooh, I forgot 0 in boolean is still true in javascript, isn't it? Dec 10 21:00:34 no. Dec 10 21:00:45 thurgood if you want to do something better, It's good for me. I'm starting with js, I used to code C++ with arduino Dec 10 21:00:54 have to have an undefined or something silly like that Dec 10 21:01:24 javascript syntax should be fairly familiar then Dec 10 21:02:20 yep, just the setTimeout is verry different Dec 10 21:03:34 eliminating 'delay' can be very confusing at times. Dec 10 21:06:37 http://pastebin.com/CZinAzLE Dec 10 21:06:49 there is the output in the console Dec 10 21:06:53 WormsCH: that's the broken one... Dec 10 21:07:08 used my fixed one that does state = state ? b.LOW : b.HIGH; Dec 10 21:07:26 that way, it is 0 and 1, not false and true; Dec 10 21:07:33 ohh it's different Dec 10 21:09:01 well here goes time to brick another beaglebone see ya all in an hour Dec 10 21:12:40 So when I do the flashign image, the LEDs go solid, then start blinking when it's done, at which point I can pwoer it off correct? Dec 10 21:12:52 keneth: correct Dec 10 21:13:12 http://pastebin.com/n0MZXrjW give that a try Dec 10 21:13:15 keneth: there will be some random blinking in between. The "done" blink is all 4 leds blinking in unison Dec 10 21:13:23 do I need to hold the boot button when I power it on? Also I'm powering it with a dedicated 5 volt supply right Dec 10 21:13:35 keneth: yes and yes Dec 10 21:14:04 and they will blink like that until I power it down? Dec 10 21:14:24 oop line 16 should have == Dec 10 21:14:38 keneth: I _think_ so, or they might turn off after a while. Dec 10 21:14:47 it should wanr you anyway :P Dec 10 21:18:08 by using "state = state ? b.LOW : b.HIGH;" instead of statw = !state. it's working propely. Dec 10 21:18:32 thurgood, your script isn't working Dec 10 21:18:53 yeah line 16 needs to be === not = Dec 10 21:18:59 err just == Dec 10 21:20:36 thurgood: is http://pastebin.com/0CLXYW9i closer to what you meant? Dec 10 21:20:56 * jkridner_ hasn't understood the desired pattern, only syntax and function call errors. Dec 10 21:21:39 that should work Dec 10 21:21:40 carpman, they don't blink in unison when my updates finish :-/ Dec 10 21:22:37 much simpler to simply make 'index' a global than try to pass it back into itself recursively. Dec 10 21:22:49 jkridner_ it's working but it switch on, then switch off the led1, then switch on/off the led2 etc... Dec 10 21:22:59 but nice way to do that Dec 10 21:23:27 worm, that's what I understood your attempt to be.... Dec 10 21:23:51 hello all! Dec 10 21:23:55 WormsCH: .... helps to remember the TAB key at the end Dec 10 21:24:48 my pattern like that: . | .. | ... | .... | ... | .. | . | .. | ... Dec 10 21:24:59 ah Dec 10 21:25:09 was having some trouble with my BBB was wondering if you guys could help? Dec 10 21:25:22 that's easy to accomplish with a slight modification Dec 10 21:25:28 yep Dec 10 21:25:41 * jkridner_ points Sloppsta to /topic Dec 10 21:25:52 ^^ Dec 10 21:26:19 and still nobody is using his BBB with win 8.1 ? Dec 10 21:27:11 don ask to ask :D Dec 10 21:27:25 * Sloppsta smacks head on counter Dec 10 21:27:29 bad sloppsta! Dec 10 21:28:57 okay. im using my BBB with ubuntu 12.04 and lxde desktop. it works hmm okay. however i am unable to change the resoulution is uses only 1920x1080 and gives no others option. ive tried using xrandr and it tells me that other modes are not available. id really like audio so if anyone has suggestions id appreciate it Dec 10 21:30:07 running on a vizio led tv. it claims different hdmi ports do different things. hdmi(dvi) hdmi(best) ive tried them all it all goes to 1080 Dec 10 21:30:33 change your rez in uEnv.txt? Dec 10 21:30:46 doesnt that just change the boot up? Dec 10 21:30:52 also, are you using drm.debug=7 i uEnv.txt? Dec 10 21:30:56 1080 is only partially supported at best Dec 10 21:31:14 uhhhh.... very need to linux xD Dec 10 21:31:17 new* Dec 10 21:31:38 Hey I just loaded the flash image into the BBB while holding the boot button until the first 3 lights came on, but afterwards all 4 lights are not solid, only lights 1 and 3 are solid, and lights 0 and 2 are blinking, is this correct? Dec 10 21:31:51 drm.debug=7 is this something i should have? Dec 10 21:32:33 im using robert nelsons 12.04 image Dec 10 21:33:29 Sloppsta: it is helpful to include that in the options to see what the kernel thinks your monitor can support... Dec 10 21:33:38 keneth im new too but based on my experience it could take a while to finish flashing Dec 10 21:33:54 there is a clean way to switch off the BBB or just plug out ? Dec 10 21:34:02 ok leaving it alone for an hour, thanks Dec 10 21:34:04 jkridner i should jsut ass that line anywhere in the unev? Dec 10 21:34:34 keneth: 0 should be blinking in a heartbeat while flashing and 2 shows CPU activity. Dec 10 21:35:07 okay ill try adding it! thx Dec 10 21:36:34 Sloppsta: http://bb-lcnc.blogspot.com/2013/06/force-beaglebone-black-hdmi-resolution.html talks about HDMI resolution setting for Debian based on Robert's build scripts. Dec 10 21:39:06 there is a clean way to switch off the BBB or just plug out ? Dec 10 21:40:36 some distro images support the power-down button... Dec 10 21:40:48 you can use 'shutdown -h now' on the command line... Dec 10 21:40:55 but, I usually just pull the power. Dec 10 21:42:50 jk. ive tried this. i didnt notice a difference, the lxdrand thing still says 1920x1080 refresh rate 0.0 Dec 10 21:43:30 oh just read. ill check it out now Dec 10 21:53:19 jk. this system runs slow even with lxde. do you think the memory cape would help alot with this? Dec 10 21:56:39 [kernel] clacey09 opened pull request #81: Audio-Add Support for Analog Audio on 3.12 (3.12...3.12) http://git.io/qkbq_Q Dec 10 21:59:59 hmmmm Dec 10 22:00:24 trying to use this for xbmc. wont be any good without audio xD Dec 10 22:04:36 Hello all Dec 10 22:05:41 does anyone know if the BeagleBone Black is good for beginnners? I am very fluent with software but relatively new to computer hardware Dec 10 22:08:44 depends on what you're trying to do I suppose Dec 10 22:09:07 if you want a settop box... not so much Dec 10 22:25:54 thurgood I am pretty sure I will be using it for lightweight games. I am a indie game dev and want a lightweight system that is cheap and portable to develop on. However I may want to try out some robotics type stuff also so idk. Dec 10 22:30:20 if you're looking at gles.. it's not supported in most kernels, maybe android as I think they're using a tweaked 3.2 kernel? Dec 10 22:32:55 we just put out an arcade game using a beagleboard-like platform, so I won't say it's undoable Dec 10 22:33:41 thurgood: yeah, the TI Android release for BeagleBone Black ships with a 3.2 kernel supporting SGX. Dec 10 22:34:13 I thought it did :) Dec 10 22:35:04 jkridner: do you know offhand, was sgx suppported in 2.6.37 Dec 10 22:35:21 I don't know off-hand, no. Dec 10 22:35:32 why go so far back? Dec 10 22:36:08 we've been using a heavily modded 2.6.32, but need hi speed uart support on our next board spin Dec 10 22:36:21 2.6.37 is when that was introduced Dec 10 22:36:35 (to mainline anyway) Dec 10 22:37:24 basically we're trying to be stingy with dev time, on the kernel Dec 10 22:37:49 3.2 would be the most current we could do as we use sgx Dec 10 22:38:20 also we're familiar with the older init system Dec 10 22:46:38 what do you mean by gles thurgood? do you mean Open GL? Dec 10 22:47:04 it's sort of like opengl, but for embeded systems Dec 10 22:47:47 no mixing of fixed and procedural pipelines, most importantly Dec 10 22:47:49 oh i see... dang. But the android does have it? Dec 10 22:48:17 and is the API pretty much the same for coding Dec 10 22:48:26 I have only developed for pc Dec 10 22:48:35 yeah, the chip supports it, but the TI has not ported the closed source drivers to the more recent kernels Dec 10 22:50:13 I see.. I am very unfamiliar with android though. I wish it worked on Linux Dec 10 22:50:17 if you've done open gl in a pc environment you should be able to adapt fairly quickly Dec 10 22:50:51 Well acutally I use an IDE called Enigma Dec 10 22:50:59 it uses OpenGL API Dec 10 22:51:07 I ported ogre, instead of working directly with gles... mostly Dec 10 22:51:46 its a combination of GML (Game Maker Language) and C++. So I have no hands on experience with ogl but I am just thinking for the future Dec 10 22:52:18 oops... enigma is a compiler Dec 10 22:52:21 LateralGM is the ide Dec 10 22:52:37 engine or ide? or both? Dec 10 22:53:09 Its an open source version of Game Maker basically. It allows you to use C++ alongside the GML which is nice Dec 10 22:53:25 It is basically a game engine as it handles most of the complicated stuff for you Dec 10 22:54:15 Enigma has about a 70% speed increase over standard Game Maker Dec 10 22:54:33 this is because the code is interpreted into C++ which is then compiled to machine code Dec 10 22:56:19 so C++ > Enigma but Enigma > GML and it is a great way to learn C++. It is also much faster for prototyping as it handles the complicated stuff for you. It has its own Garbage collector as well so you dont have to manage memory Dec 10 22:56:49 but I dont think they even have it running on Android yet =\ Dec 10 22:57:05 let alone an gles api Dec 10 22:59:16 Hello people Dec 10 22:59:32 I am planning using the beagleboard for a server Dec 10 22:59:45 so which one should I get? The beagleboard black or the beagleboard xm? Dec 10 22:59:56 the more computing power the better Dec 10 23:00:05 probably beaglebone black, unless you need a DSP. Dec 10 23:00:45 I'm making a minecraft server so I shouldn't really need DSp Dec 10 23:00:48 DSP* Dec 10 23:04:22 so OpenGL does not work via BeagleBone Black running Linux then. right? Dec 10 23:10:59 pretty much correct, android is in the linux family though if you want to split hairs Dec 10 23:12:28 none of them are technically opengl eithergles, was a subset that's evolved a bit on it's own Dec 10 23:13:41 ok thanks thurgood I appreciate the help Dec 10 23:13:56 sure Dec 11 00:21:14 jkridner: I am now Dec 11 00:26:25 anyone using RCN stuff have any idea how I can get the RCN stable kernel git to compile (and ideally package) linux-tools? I need perf with my kernel. Dec 11 00:35:32 hi calculus Dec 11 00:42:06 hmmm Dec 11 00:42:29 do we have beagle popciles yet? Dec 11 02:13:01 After experimenting with several different tool chains, I was able to cross compile a HelloWorld from Windows and deploy to my BBB. Dec 11 02:13:41 Check out this video where I learned how. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I667-sAzzZg Dec 11 02:15:30 It's using Sourcery CodeBench for ARM GNU/Linux lite. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Dec 11 02:59:59 2013