**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Dec 16 03:00:01 2013 Dec 16 04:43:40 how can i overclock beaglebone black Dec 16 04:45:05 any one here? Dec 16 04:45:48 A few. Dec 16 04:45:56 But not much talking. Dec 16 04:46:04 why would you want to OC the BBB? Dec 16 04:46:15 what are you doing that needs to be faster? Dec 16 04:46:27 it is too slow Dec 16 04:46:34 too slow for what? Dec 16 04:46:54 i wan get 1.5Ghz Dec 16 04:46:59 want Dec 16 04:47:02 why Dec 16 04:47:30 my beaglebone black with android 4.0,it is too slow Dec 16 04:47:41 with hdmi @ 1080p Dec 16 04:48:28 are you willing to reduce the usable life of your BBB? Dec 16 04:48:49 echo 1500000 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq is not effect Dec 16 04:49:14 overclocking stresses the silicon and shortens the lifetime Dec 16 04:49:52 BTW, does it support some sort of dynamic load-based clocking? Dec 16 04:49:53 i do not care about life Dec 16 04:50:35 so it's OK for you if it runs at 1.5GHz for two days and then dies a horrible death, as long as it runs fast for those two days... Dec 16 04:50:36 cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies Dec 16 04:50:40 300000 600000 800000 1000000 Dec 16 04:51:20 can be used for one year I will be able to accept Dec 16 04:54:22 have you identified that the bottleneck is processor speed, and not say, memory bandwidth? Dec 16 09:51:51 hi! Dec 16 09:53:20 lo¡ Dec 16 12:44:07 .29 Dec 16 14:02:12 non-breaking space in a Makefile :( Dec 16 14:02:20 stupidest mistake of the week Dec 16 14:02:43 any idea why bbb hangs on [ 16.981141] net eth0: phy 4a101000.mdio:01 not found on slave 1 for a long time on ubuntu arm? Dec 16 14:10:04 av500: I was wondering if you could tell me how to get MTP files working on BBB? Dec 16 14:10:54 zump: i think it tries to get its IP from a dhcp server...or needs to sense a cable plugged in. Dec 16 14:11:11 :( how can i disable this itwill be wifi only Dec 16 14:24:12 sphoorti: what are MTP files? Dec 16 14:25:27 MTP is the protocol used for transferring media content since android 3.1 av500 Dec 16 14:35:32 gm all Dec 16 14:40:47 hi, are there special connectors out there to be able to access PINs whilst using a cape ? Dec 16 14:42:01 Not really. Dec 16 14:42:27 But you could do l;ike Arduino does and use long-pin connecotrs on the cape, to have the female sockets on the top available. Dec 16 14:43:42 i'm using a LCD4 and i can't picture what you mean as there is no way for the pins to be accessible without desoldering P8 and P9 ? Dec 16 14:51:43 whats the point of CAPEs if you lose access to all the main pins ? Dec 16 14:55:46 some capes have passthrough connectivity ,so yo ucan stack multiple capes Dec 16 14:56:00 http://boardzoo.com/index.php/beaglebone-black/extended-proto-cape.html#.Uq8UauY5jKg Dec 16 14:56:41 guess the lcd one just needs to be at the top of your stack if it doesn't do this Dec 16 14:56:42 LCD capes are indeed special as they are meant to go on top Dec 16 15:28:33 I tried to make an LCD cape that went in the middle. The broken glass was a major setback. Dec 16 15:39:08 av500: are you around ? Dec 16 15:47:02 yes Dec 16 15:49:51 HellO! Dec 16 15:50:24 I need to get a quotation for BeagleBone Black 100 pcs Dec 16 15:50:39 How can I do it Dec 16 15:50:40 ? Dec 16 15:51:03 go to any disty web site Dec 16 15:51:37 2) find price Dec 16 15:51:45 3) multiply by 100 Dec 16 15:52:12 #exactsteps Dec 16 15:52:44 av500: is there a solution for the MTP files on BBB ? Dec 16 16:01:19 sphoorti: as you stated MTP is a protocol, not a "type" of a file. You can use the libmtp library to implement the MTP transfer protocol over whatever medium you want. http://libmtp.sourceforge.net/ Dec 16 16:02:04 thanks a lot jackmitchell . I will look into it. Dec 16 16:06:36 jackmitchell: libmtp is for host Dec 16 16:06:44 I guess sphoorti wants the BBB to be device Dec 16 16:06:55 Android has an MTP implementation Dec 16 16:07:02 MTP device Dec 16 16:07:32 av500: I want the BBB to be the host Dec 16 16:09:53 mer/nemo also has an MTP implementation, forget which one though, works pretty well Dec 16 16:15:15 I can't seem to reliably flash the built in flash. I started with a copy of ubuntu-precise-12.04.3-armhf-3.8.13-bone30.img that i succefully wrote to an SD card and the system booted correctly Dec 16 16:16:13 However, when I try to write a filesystem (two partitions) to the built in flash everything seems to work. I can mount and fsck both partitions but it refuses to boot. Dec 16 16:16:48 I get invalid extent block ext4fs_devread read outside partition 4294967120 ** File not found /boot/zImage ** Dec 16 16:17:12 sphoorti: then use libmtp like on any other linux PC Dec 16 16:17:12 Any ideas? I am new to this. Dec 16 16:19:44 av500: But when I do a "opkg list | grep libmtp" I find no packages Dec 16 16:20:26 I think I will try downloading the tar files. av500 Dec 16 16:25:24 This what u-boot says on the serial console when I try to boot: http://pastebin.com/SkkUcabG Dec 16 16:27:17 Joppez: How big is the SD card Ubuntu was installed to? Dec 16 16:27:32 4 GB, but I am only using two of them Dec 16 16:29:00 gotta love them autotools, write Makefiles 10 times faster then spend the time you gained debugging this shit Dec 16 16:29:32 It looks like u-boot can't find the kernel image...is zImage actually in /boot of the ext4 partition? Dec 16 16:29:54 Yes it is. It's a symlink though. Dec 16 16:30:22 Symlinked to where? Dec 16 16:30:41 Please let me check. Dec 16 16:31:14 zImage -> vmlinuz-3.8.13-bone30 (which is found in the same folder) Dec 16 16:31:56 The exact same setup boots from my SD-card. That is what puzzles me. Dec 16 16:32:49 Have flashed a few times and done md5sum on /dev/mmcblk1 several times to actually check that the flash procedure does the same thing everytime and it does. Dec 16 16:34:03 Also tried removing the symlink with a real copy. Same result... Dec 16 16:34:18 I mean replacing. Dec 16 16:34:20 I think it might be an issue with the u-boot command Dec 16 16:34:23 hehhlo Dec 16 16:34:30 hello* Dec 16 16:34:32 You might try looking at: http://archlinuxarm.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=6011 Dec 16 16:34:36 Can anyone help me with serial connections? Dec 16 16:34:49 It is for Arch but it should work for Ubuntu Dec 16 16:35:30 OK. Thank you I'll try that. Dec 16 16:35:50 simengineer: What's your problem? Dec 16 16:36:38 I am trying to determine which board I need in order to have a serial connection. Do I have to have a serial DB9 shield in order to setup serial for BeagleBone Black? Dec 16 16:36:51 @mromero see above, sorry Dec 16 16:37:20 Joppez: I think your problem might just be that the u-boot is trying to reference the zImage on the SD card since that is where you copied it from. I think that thread should tell you how to change it so that it references the mmc Dec 16 16:38:06 simengineer: You don't need a cape to use the UART headers on the board. You can use an FTDI cable or other serial to usb board. Dec 16 16:38:29 Can I change the only USB port to be a serial connection? After that.. I do I hook up the BeagleBone to my computer if I want to change the image? Wont that USB be set to serial? Dec 16 16:39:24 mromero: sorry, I think this will notify you. See response above. Dec 16 16:39:44 The mini USB port is for power only on the BBB. I don't believe you can use the host port as a serial port. Dec 16 16:40:20 On the Beaglebone White the micro port did have a serial connection, but that was removed in the Black. http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBone_Black_Accessories#Serial_Debug_Cables has a list of cables that will work with the J1 header. Dec 16 16:40:57 simengineer: AFK for 15 or so Dec 16 16:42:53 mromero: Super! Lets hope that solves it. Will do some experimentation. Dec 16 16:53:32 simengineer: Back. Does that help? Dec 16 17:04:20 just fyi for everyone, circuitco has about 20 new capes going to be released in january, the first of the new capes are available for pre-order - http://boardzoo.com/index.php/new-products.html?limit=all Dec 16 17:07:49 prpplague: ppl are desperate to get dogs, not capes! Dec 16 17:08:05 lol Dec 16 17:08:08 av500: yea seems so Dec 16 17:08:12 nice nonetheless Dec 16 17:18:02 vagrantc: ping Dec 16 17:21:14 * vagrantc waves Dec 16 17:21:42 prpplague: pong, as it were Dec 16 17:33:03 is there no way to force SD card boot from BBB? Dec 16 17:34:26 you mean BBB to boot from SD card? Dec 16 17:34:33 bitnumus: Try holding the single button closest to the USB interface when you give the card power Dec 16 17:34:45 Joppez, i mean without that button :SD Dec 16 17:34:59 i want my BBB inside a case, so its now possible, i also have an LCD cape Dec 16 17:35:20 I'm no expert, but i think it is up to the config in uEnv.txt. Dec 16 17:37:07 anyone know? Dec 16 17:42:35 bitnumus: http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:Updating_The_Software#Image_For_Booting_From_microSD Dec 16 17:43:25 aurelien, thanks, not sure i have a USB>USD though Dec 16 17:43:34 this the only way to access this file? Dec 16 17:44:00 as for the images that can boot directly, i don't see any links there Dec 16 17:44:18 bitnumus: I am not an expert and I am standing to receive my BBB!! all is theoric for me my friend ;-D Dec 16 17:44:43 look at the procedure line Dec 16 17:44:48 there are image Dec 16 17:45:00 all seems well explained Dec 16 17:45:35 nice windows based tut Dec 16 17:45:36 :) Dec 16 17:45:51 bitnumus: maybe you can bring your experience to that page if you find some more GNU ways :-) Dec 16 17:46:47 hmm, no way to access from the SDcards distro then? has to be mounted as a USD device? Dec 16 17:46:56 if so i need to buy a cable :( Dec 16 17:48:11 bitnumus: you can simply erase the contents of the emmc Dec 16 17:48:32 prpplague, how is this done without mounting it somehow ? Dec 16 17:48:38 bitnumus: during boot if the am335x finds no bootable material on the emmc it defaults to trying to boot from the uSD Dec 16 17:49:09 bitnumus: you can erase it from the bootloader or boot from the uSD card first, then erase the emmc Dec 16 17:50:09 i'm in debian over ssh thats booted from SD card, no idea how to see emmc from here Dec 16 17:53:52 the wiki says : To force a boot from the microSD card, delete the MLO file in the FAT partition of the eMMC. Dec 16 17:54:30 You can access this when the board is connected over the USB cable and it appears as a thumbdrive. Dec 16 17:54:32 how the hell can i get to that partition from inside debian though Dec 16 17:54:47 usb cable they says Dec 16 17:54:54 yes, and i don't know of many devices that need USB>USB Dec 16 17:54:58 so i don't own that cable Dec 16 17:55:08 o wait Dec 16 17:55:11 bitnumus: maybe you can mount the partition Dec 16 17:55:29 aurelien, you think it'll be the power USB, i was assuming the normal sized male USB Dec 16 17:55:42 sounds correct Dec 16 17:55:46 meh, sec Dec 16 17:56:24 well no, that'll boo it Dec 16 17:56:26 boot Dec 16 17:56:27 lol Dec 16 17:57:02 that boot it ok ... now delete the MLO file in the fat partition as they says Dec 16 17:57:28 no, i mean i can't connect BBB to my pc with the miniUSB because it will boot it Dec 16 17:57:43 that sounds to be the idea Dec 16 17:57:45 so i guess its referring to a normal sized USB ? Dec 16 17:57:49 boot with the cable Dec 16 17:57:53 wtf Dec 16 17:57:58 rm the MLO file Dec 16 17:58:02 reboot on SD card Dec 16 17:58:06 it wont mount as a USB device if its trying to boot Dec 16 17:58:56 can i get to that partition from inside debian ? Dec 16 17:59:30 System hangs at boot. Last line is "net eth0: phy 4a101000.mdio:01 not found on slave 1" Dec 16 17:59:46 Does not seem to recover. Dec 16 17:59:53 ssh the stuff you should have access to it. Dec 16 18:08:46 bitnumus: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/beagleboard/lEMH0rvm6Ys seems that the uneven.txt file could make the trick Dec 16 18:11:52 uEnv.txt in fact maybe a page just for that file could be a + for BBB wiki. Dec 16 18:12:18 bitnumus: you should be able to get to the eMMC fromm within debian Dec 16 18:12:35 bitnumus: for me, it usually shows up as /dev/mmcblk1* Dec 16 18:12:37 vagrantc, any idea how ? Dec 16 18:12:49 bitnumus: and the sd card as /dev/mmcblk0* Dec 16 18:12:52 ok sec Dec 16 18:13:06 those are raw device nodes, not mountpoints, though Dec 16 18:13:27 so: mount /dev/mmcblk1p1 /mnt Dec 16 18:13:28 should work Dec 16 18:14:13 bitnumus: find uEnv.txt rename it to uEnv.txt~ (to keep the file) reboot, it will boot on the sd card. Dec 16 18:14:45 that's probably a more elegant way to do it Dec 16 18:14:56 thats in boot/uboot Dec 16 18:15:00 ok i'll give that a whirl Dec 16 18:16:00 lol sudo reboot killed it :P Dec 16 18:16:38 nop, didnt work! Dec 16 18:18:27 this seems stupidly complex for what seems like a very common thing to want to do ? Dec 16 18:20:57 well, is the uEnv.txt on your SD card giving it the right information? Dec 16 18:24:11 bitnumus: how did you boot to the SD card in the first place? Dec 16 18:24:20 yup Dec 16 18:24:24 o, holding the button Dec 16 18:24:44 debian works fine, but i want this in an enclosure, so i can't keep pressing the button Dec 16 18:25:18 do you have access to the serial console? Dec 16 18:25:24 i.e. see what u-boot is doing? Dec 16 18:25:48 when you say remove uEnv, are we talking from emmc ? Dec 16 18:25:56 yeah Dec 16 18:26:22 you'll still need one on your SD card Dec 16 18:26:36 or remove the MLO file from the eMMC Dec 16 18:26:48 if you really want to boot the u-boot off the SD card Dec 16 18:27:14 but removing the uEnv.txt from the eMMC should be enough for it to use the uEnv.txt on the SD card Dec 16 18:28:09 ok let me try and mount what you said a minute ago Dec 16 18:29:34 ey, think thats it! Dec 16 18:30:45 vagrantc, aurelien thanks a lot :D Dec 16 18:31:26 np Dec 16 18:32:06 bitnumus: you should bring your experience to the wiki :-p Dec 16 18:32:17 i dont have any lol Dec 16 18:32:26 you have just one now! Dec 16 18:40:11 weird, it won't boot with my LCD cape attached though Dec 16 18:40:42 you though or you tested? Dec 16 18:41:02 just put it on, solid blue lights Dec 16 18:43:33 did you get one of the lcd capes that is approved for the black version? Dec 16 18:44:27 I think some of the white versions interfered with emmc signals Dec 16 18:45:17 yup Dec 16 18:45:34 it booted before, and BBB boots without it, now its not booting Dec 16 18:47:55 hmm, when i hold the uSD button it does boot Dec 16 18:47:57 wtf ? Dec 16 18:48:42 emmc signal interference, most likely :/ Dec 16 18:49:12 if you boot through the SD it doesn't care about those signals Dec 16 18:49:35 i mean, i renamed uEnv file from emmc, so now it auto boots to the SD card Dec 16 18:49:40 but with the CAPE connected, it doesn't Dec 16 18:50:27 it still boots from the emmc initially then hands off to the SD if you use the uEnv.txt trick Dec 16 18:51:00 the SD button changes the actual boot order Dec 16 18:51:06 i see Dec 16 18:51:14 so, whats a better method to replicate the button Dec 16 19:08:44 ok, renaming MLO seems to work, any problems doing this ? Dec 16 19:18:12 i guess this is no place to ask for am335x questions uh? Dec 16 19:21:24 ezequielg, ? Dec 16 19:22:47 mdp: hi! i'm having some trouble getting an lcd4 cape to work. i'm using mainline. Dec 16 19:22:50 (-rc4) Dec 16 19:23:11 the backlight is already working, but the panel shows nothing Dec 16 19:23:48 wow, you are the rare person to work with mainline Dec 16 19:23:49 i'm using drm, for the first time on an lcd panel, so i'm a bit confused at what this may be. Dec 16 19:24:05 on BBB Dec 16 19:24:27 wish I had experience with lcd stuff to comment, I only work headless Dec 16 19:24:28 mdp: i was using the PSP kernel, but it has no support for HDMI Dec 16 19:24:53 mdp: and i'm not fond of the whole overlays circus Dec 16 19:25:00 you might use the bb.org kernel, check what works..then compare to mainline..of course, no drm driver in the bb.org kernel Dec 16 19:25:20 and yes, you have to deal with the bb.org specific capemgr Dec 16 19:26:06 mdp: bb.org kernel you mean the v3.8 stuff with the capmgr? thatone has drm Dec 16 19:26:17 the tilcdc driver is a drm driver Dec 16 19:26:31 and handles panel (lcd) and hdmi, afaics Dec 16 19:26:36 ezequielg, ugh, I forgot they brought that in..cool Dec 16 19:26:42 hdmi is already working Dec 16 19:26:45 panel is not :-( Dec 16 19:26:47 understood Dec 16 19:26:54 hdmi is working for some version of working, right Dec 16 19:27:07 mdp: uh? Dec 16 19:27:21 doesn't work for some people's displays Dec 16 19:27:31 mdp: btw, i have *0* graphics background, so this is all new for me :P Dec 16 19:28:01 good luck, wish I had lcd capes to provide any help ;) Dec 16 19:28:02 mdp: oh.. right. but i *think* setting some 640x480 or the like *should* work for pretty much everybody Dec 16 19:28:16 mdp: np, i'll just write omap Dec 16 19:28:27 (omap ML) Dec 16 19:28:31 mdp: thx! Dec 16 19:28:49 I'd say 98% of the people here and on the beagleboard list care about the bb.org kernel and related distros Dec 16 19:29:06 that's what most talk is about..so yeah, linux-omap is better for mainline issues Dec 16 19:29:22 mdp: yeah, i know. Dec 16 19:29:35 does robclark still maintain the driver? Dec 16 19:29:40 you should cc him Dec 16 19:30:04 right... Dec 16 19:30:11 mdp: i'm 98% sure it's a wrong DTS stuff Dec 16 19:30:15 mdp: but can't spot. Dec 16 19:30:37 mdp: btw, i read a post of yours where you say "when in dount check the pinmux" Dec 16 19:30:40 without even looking, I imagine it's a fairly complex binding ;) Dec 16 19:30:43 mdp: or something like that Dec 16 19:30:56 pinmux or bad data in binding Dec 16 19:31:19 lcdc pinmux is very consistent though..so your latter guess seems reasonable Dec 16 19:31:32 mdp: yes... it's not a trivial binding.. Dec 16 19:32:03 mdp: maybe you know this much: is there any way to set a GPIO value from the DTS? Dec 16 19:32:35 mdp: the panel needs a GPIO line that goes to LCD_DISEN, to be ON. I use to do that from the boardfile. Dec 16 19:32:48 now I only see a muxing for that Dec 16 19:33:40 Does anyone have an idea why my kernel hangs at boot with: net eth0: phy 4a101000.mdio:01 not found on slave 1 Dec 16 19:34:07 <_av500_> pastebin a full boot log Dec 16 19:34:13 some consumer drivers expose a property like "default-state" to allow a gpio to be set appropriately Dec 16 19:34:22 ezequielg, gpio leds, for one Dec 16 19:34:37 I don't believe there's any such thing in the base gpio binding Dec 16 19:35:28 just confirmed that yes, that's the case Dec 16 19:35:47 Sure here's the boot log: http://pastebin.com/BJHx5ZHR Dec 16 19:36:11 ezequielg, but take a looking at bindings/led/leds-gpio.txt "default-state" property Dec 16 19:36:15 s/looking/look/ Dec 16 19:37:41 ezequielg, typically, in these cases you'd either 1) abstract that gpio board file usage or 2) have a machine specific chunk of code in drivers/ Dec 16 19:38:08 mdp: right. Dec 16 19:38:33 mdp: maybe just using sysfs to raise the GPIO is enough? Dec 16 19:38:54 mdp: oh, no. that won't work. Dec 16 19:39:12 you want that in the driver Dec 16 19:39:13 oh, I have a recommendation Dec 16 19:39:26 looking at the tilcdc binding... Dec 16 19:39:27 mdp: i'm all years Dec 16 19:39:34 *ears Dec 16 19:41:38 you should extend that binding to add an optional panel property allowing for a reset phandle, specifier pair Dec 16 19:41:52 you could make that a gpio phandle, specifier pair too Dec 16 19:42:20 but with the reset subsystem being in place now, seems like this is sorta a reset to be deasserted if I could twist it that way Dec 16 19:42:25 either way Dec 16 19:42:58 mdp: care to draft a quick DTS (sketchy) example so I can follow you? Dec 16 19:46:25 Any idea why it is hanging? It only happens when I boot from the internal flash: http://pastebin.com/BJHx5ZHR Dec 16 19:46:46 When booting the same kernel (and filesystem) from the SD-card it works. Dec 16 19:53:59 mdp: actually, the am335xevm board has a panel, and the binding is almost the same i have here. Dec 16 19:54:34 mdp: so, it *has* to be some stupid difference. i'll boot v3.8 kernel and try to start from there. Dec 16 20:40:04 Joppez: does the beagle use ttyO0 for console? Dec 16 20:42:29 thurgood: The printouts you see come from the serial console (attached to RS232) Dec 16 20:42:42 Not sure about the console Dec 16 20:42:59 Normally I can login through this serial console Dec 16 20:43:04 But not when this happens Dec 16 20:45:44 HI ! Dec 16 20:45:47 What is the best way, build an application with OE recipies or with the SDK (build from OE) ? Dec 16 20:46:45 not sure about the bone but the beagleboard used uart2... ttyS2, or ttyO1 Dec 16 20:48:01 thurgood: The thing you said gave me an idea. I am normally working headless (with just RS232 connected), but I just hooked up a monitor and now I get a better error message Dec 16 20:48:31 namely: The disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present Dec 16 20:48:45 MatthieuG: I don't know if it's THE best way, but I use the toolchain that OE/bitbake provide and cross-compile on my host machine Dec 16 20:49:02 Joppez: that would do it Dec 16 20:49:38 thurgood: Yes the beagle does use ttyO0 for the console. That is the console that should be specified in the u-boot command Dec 16 20:49:40 Somehow this message never got to the serial console, so thanks for the hint! Dec 16 20:50:08 Now I have something to work with Dec 16 20:50:43 mromero: I was unsure if that had changed since the beagle classic days, thanks Dec 16 20:51:41 thurgood: No problem. I was messing with net booting last week, and I remembered that. Dec 16 20:52:49 Thurgood: For using the toolchain, Do I need to build the SDK (bitbake meta-toolchain Dec 16 20:52:52 ) and install it ? Dec 16 20:54:44 I think you can get it with the native gcc-cross package, OE installs it when building the console or kernel Dec 16 20:55:52 I use OE as much as possible to build libraries to link against Dec 16 20:56:10 Here is a riddle, why does writing data to GPMC crash my bone at 720MHz but not at 600MHz? http://pastebin.ca/2314233 Dec 16 20:56:14 Thx thurgood Dec 16 20:56:53 by crash I mean that the heartbeat stops blinking and that I cannot communicate with it anymore Dec 16 21:02:12 upwardindex: how are you powering the bone? Dec 16 21:02:21 thurgood: power adapter Dec 16 21:05:06 ezequielg, I had meetings to attend..now back Dec 16 21:06:40 ezequielg, given that and that the am335x-evm dts implementation has no gpio manipulation the the binding, sounds like a different root cause Dec 16 21:06:53 s/the the/in the/ Dec 16 21:12:12 ezequielg, keep in mind that the am335x-evm lcd may not be designed for a gpio enable so you may still have some work Dec 16 21:12:18 as always YMMV Dec 16 21:15:40 What is the best place to post extremely technical bugs? Dec 16 21:26:15 <_av500_> your whiteboard :) Dec 16 21:27:24 cocktail napkin Dec 16 21:30:27 * _av500_ reads /dev/mem, slowly backs away Dec 16 21:51:25 Is the google group moderated? (I posted but the post does not appear) Dec 16 21:51:33 <_av500_> yes Dec 16 21:51:38 <_av500_> new hires are screened Dec 16 21:51:45 Ok good Dec 16 21:56:11 anybody here? Dec 16 21:56:30 here..ere..re..e..e Dec 16 21:56:49 k Dec 16 21:56:51 do you know if the beagle bone black is in stock anywhere? Dec 16 21:57:05 im trying to get it by christmas Dec 16 21:57:19 MacLover: you have to order and wait, apparently it is regularly delivered in small batches so is never "in stock" (tm) Dec 16 21:57:43 ok Dec 16 21:57:50 so I heard from circitco dudes here anyway Dec 16 21:58:06 :( Dec 16 21:58:11 so I won't get it by christmas Dec 16 21:58:22 I could not comment on that, Im just some random Dec 16 21:58:32 :( Dec 16 21:58:37 sometimes randoms know more than you Dec 16 21:58:42 but in UK terms, OMG your late ordering for xmas :-D Dec 16 21:58:58 hey Dec 16 21:59:00 don't hate Dec 16 21:59:08 https://www.sparkfun.com/products/12076 Dec 16 21:59:20 that is the closest date I can find Dec 16 21:59:24 MacLover: hehe, its just this week is normally the week our mail system grinds to a halt Dec 16 21:59:25 an order for 300 will come in on the 18 Dec 16 21:59:50 well im in the almighty worlds police the USA Dec 16 22:00:24 nothing ever stops in the US Dec 16 22:00:50 dont you guyes call it the "Royal Mail"? Dec 16 22:00:56 yes Dec 16 22:01:09 or Royal Fail these days :-( Dec 16 22:01:23 lol Dec 16 22:01:23 and we also have Parcel Farce, My Herpes, ... Dec 16 22:01:38 Shittylink Express Dec 16 22:01:50 ok im depsperate Dec 16 22:01:57 time to check china Dec 16 22:02:01 MacLover: if that fails, https://www.adafruit.com/products/1278 says expected in 5-10 business days though, so probably not gettable by xmas Dec 16 22:02:03 check ebay? Dec 16 22:02:12 *please have bbb" Dec 16 22:02:25 I see a few on UK ebay from time to time for immediate delivery Dec 16 22:03:03 true Dec 16 22:03:15 by I have connected with the USPS Dec 16 22:03:18 so I can get it bumpted to like 1 deay Dec 16 22:04:03 damn Dec 16 22:04:07 china is expence Dec 16 22:04:09 how rich are you http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Beaglebone-Black-Cortex-A8-Board-The-Beefier-Bigger-Brother-of-the-Raspberry-Pi-/151129146702?pt=UK_Motherboards_CPUs&hash=item232fffc54e Dec 16 22:04:11 hehe Dec 16 22:04:20 lol Dec 16 22:04:31 The Beefier Bigger Brother of the Raspberry Pi Dec 16 22:04:43 HOLD SHIT Dec 16 22:04:44 £943.80 Dec 16 22:04:47 LOL Dec 16 22:05:07 not black, but http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/BeagleBoard-by-CircuitCo/BB-BONE-000/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMuhucAexPYLek2PUrA%252bMEAl Dec 16 22:05:17 DAMN Dec 16 22:05:21 THATS $1538.39 Dec 16 22:05:24 my god Dec 16 22:05:31 thats LOLprice Dec 16 22:05:41 yep Dec 16 22:05:53 xD Dec 16 22:06:12 with the beagleboneblack, if you plug the otg port into a 2amp usb power supply... could it draw the full amperage if it needed to? Dec 16 22:06:22 (as opposed to using the round power plug) Dec 16 22:06:34 lol Dec 16 22:06:38 "the round power plug" Dec 16 22:06:46 yes if you use the barrell Dec 16 22:06:55 you can get the maximum potential out of it Dec 16 22:07:38 I think that 1500$ one must be from jkridner|work or prpplague's personal stash to be worth that much :-D Dec 16 22:07:46 lol Dec 16 22:08:01 I need to find one :( Dec 16 22:08:04 i can't live without it Dec 16 22:08:15 my old beaglebone has meated is limit Dec 16 22:08:22 being shocked about 5 times on my carpet Dec 16 22:08:29 I don't think it wants to live anymore Dec 16 22:08:58 why not just get another beaglebone then? they look available at least. Dec 16 22:09:04 and cheaper than $1500 Dec 16 22:09:10 nah Dec 16 22:09:16 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BeagleBone-Black-Texas-Instruments-Circuitco-Cortex-A8-Development-Board-AM335-/310778457634?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item485bd6ee22 Dec 16 22:09:20 this is reasonable Dec 16 22:09:33 but Dec 16 22:09:34 Estimated by Fri. 10 Jan Dec 16 22:09:59 i think this is the best Dec 16 22:10:00 https://www.sparkfun.com/products/12076 Dec 16 22:10:06 some will come in on the 18 Dec 16 22:10:18