**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jan 09 02:59:58 2014
Jan 09 04:22:26 <XYTXYT> Hi I have a BBB with angstrom running on it. I set up a root password. But I want to automatically login with this password. I searched around but can not find any answer. Can anyone help me with this?
Jan 09 08:59:07 <cityLights> is anyone awake yet?
Jan 09 09:00:40 <LetoThe2nd> no.
Jan 09 09:01:08 <cityLights> ok, so I will wait with my device tree overlay question
Jan 09 09:18:38 <cityLights> good morning
Jan 09 09:22:42 <tbr> moooo
Jan 09 09:27:22 <jmp> Hi Guyz... whats the difference between BBB version A6A and A6 ?
Jan 09 09:28:05 <jmp> one seller has A6 available but A6A has 4 weeks lead time... should I go for A6 or wait for A6A ?
Jan 09 09:29:20 <LetoThe2nd> jmp: http://www.elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack#Revision_A6A_.28Production_Version.29
Jan 09 09:31:09 <cityLights> is anyone here coming to the FOSDEM convention at the end of this month?
Jan 09 09:31:23 <cityLights> and if so , where can we all meet?
Jan 09 09:32:23 <jmp> LetoThe2nd: thx.. I went through it.... but could not make a decision... apart from power sequence change nothing seems  too bad ?
Jan 09 09:32:52 <jmp> Did anyone face issues with A6 as such or these are just enhancements ?
Jan 09 09:36:51 <tbr> cityLights: at the OE/beagle/foo booth in that small building?
Jan 09 09:48:35 <cityLights> tbr: well , I guess so
Jan 09 11:08:18 <rob_w> will i be able to run clutter/opengl on the BBB , it does have the 3d right ?
Jan 09 11:15:12 <jacekowski> rob_w: opengl ES
Jan 09 11:15:24 <rob_w> yeah
Jan 09 11:33:34 <rob_w> so are we talking about hte "standard" Graphics SDK 4.05 from ti ?
Jan 09 11:44:17 <cityLights> what does &am33xx_pinmux and &ocp mean in the device tree overlay?
Jan 09 11:46:54 <cityLights> when I try to load a dtbo file I get the error: bash: echo: write error: No such file or directory
Jan 09 11:47:18 <cityLights> however , if I rename it from BOILER-GPIO to DM-GPIO-Test it workd
Jan 09 11:47:23 <cityLights> why?
Jan 09 11:47:43 <cityLights> BOILER-GPIO-00A00.dtbo -> DM-GPIO-Test-00A0.dtbo
Jan 09 12:33:05 <cityLights> oh well, I guess I will seek device tree overlay help at the meeting
Jan 09 12:37:43 <Vaizki_> one zero too much in the other name?
Jan 09 12:37:52 <Vaizki_> BOILER-GPIO-00A00.dtbo
Jan 09 12:38:10 <Vaizki_> and don't be so impatient :)
Jan 09 12:38:13 <cityLights> thanks Vaizki_!
Jan 09 13:09:11 <Wizzup> I am using http://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black#BeagleBoneBlack-LinuxKernel to try and build a mainline kernel for the beaglebone, but the scripts appear to apply a lot of patches...
Jan 09 13:09:21 <Wizzup> Wondering if that's really necessary
Jan 09 13:09:33 <Wizzup> (I also want to do it manually, not with scripts, is why I am reading the scripts in the first place)
Jan 09 13:11:38 <woglinde> wizzup try without the patches
Jan 09 13:11:55 <woglinde> and go crying
Jan 09 13:17:14 <pwillard> Note:  I did mess up... you want analogWrite statement BEFORE the map() statement or LED won't do much.
Jan 09 13:18:02 <pwillard> oops, wrong chat...
Jan 09 13:24:41 <heeen> is there a ubuntu or debian based image for the BB white where gpio, pruss etc still work?
Jan 09 13:31:27 <grantsmith> im new to GPIO programming. I understand that each pin has different modes. But how do you select the mode programmatically ?
Jan 09 13:47:41 <grantsmith> oh nevermind. i see it needs to be preconfigured in dts
Jan 09 13:55:10 <marc__> heeen
Jan 09 13:55:22 <marc__> stock ubuntu seems to work for me, at least in terms of controlling the onboard LEDs
Jan 09 13:55:36 <marc__> ah, bb white, i have bb black
Jan 09 15:18:31 <cityLights> does anyone here have any beaglebone electric schematic they care to share?
Jan 09 15:18:55 <cityLights> I am just developping my first BBB PCB
Jan 09 15:19:13 <musufu> you can find it on wiki
Jan 09 15:19:15 <cityLights> a power supply a relay and a simple button
Jan 09 15:19:49 <cityLights> musufu: the wiki has Orcad (TM) symbols
Jan 09 15:20:09 <cityLights> I am looking to use gEDA
Jan 09 15:20:36 <cityLights> or kicad
Jan 09 15:21:19 <cthree87> you'll need to convert the OrCAD files or redo them
Jan 09 15:22:02 <cthree87> BBB PCB layout is not simple
Jan 09 15:24:48 <cthree87> http://www.elec4fun.fr/2011-03-30-10-16-30/2011-06-20-07-49-37/orcad-to-kicad is a start
Jan 09 15:26:42 <HueLew> ahoy
Jan 09 15:26:55 <cityLights> yet, as some of the members here do design PCB , maybe some like to share the schematics
Jan 09 15:27:15 <HueLew> Who runs Angstrom/EZLinux on their BBB?
Jan 09 15:27:47 <HueLew> I require some assistance getting things to work
Jan 09 15:30:01 <HueLew> Thanks a lot, all
Jan 09 15:37:04 <pwillard> I run Angstrom... but I don't like it.
Jan 09 15:38:07 <k4jcw> I've grabbed the git for the 3.8.13-bone32 sources, and ran the build_kernel.sh script. However, it ends up aborting with "error: Your local changes to the following files would be overwritten by checkout: net/netfilter/xt_RATEEST.c net/netfilter/xt_TCPMSS.c Please, commit your changes or stash them before you can switch branches." I'm only running the build_kernel.sh script, and *I* haven't made any changes to these files.
Jan 09 15:38:07 <k4jcw> So where do I go from here? Should I commit them? And where's it going to commit them to? And why are they considered modified?
Jan 09 15:40:50 <Wizzup> Is there a page that shows what parts are mainlined and what parts are not? I read somewhere that 3.13 would probably contain bbb support, but now I only find a guide that applies >100 patches on op of 3.13-r7
Jan 09 15:44:17 <Wizzup> Which is not my definition of mainline support
Jan 09 15:48:46 <mdp> Wizzup, would you prefer 1200 patches on top of the kernel?
Jan 09 15:49:06 <mdp> Wizzup, if you want mainline, run 3.13-rc7 like the rest of us do.
Jan 09 15:49:09 <mdp> works fine
Jan 09 15:50:57 <Wizzup> mdp: Thanks! So that does not require extra patches?
Jan 09 15:50:57 <Wizzup> BTW I consdier 3.13-rc7 mainline :)
Jan 09 15:51:07 <mdp> for what?
Jan 09 15:51:18 <Wizzup> I was just checking the guide and it randomly applies tons of patches
Jan 09 15:51:18 <Wizzup> the guide = http://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black#BeagleBoneBlack-LinuxKernel
Jan 09 15:51:25 <mdp> Wizzup, well, of course that's mainline, it's the fundamental definition of mainline
Jan 09 15:51:33 <mdp> randomly?
Jan 09 15:51:39 <Wizzup> mdp: Small q; do you have a defconfig name for me?
Jan 09 15:51:45 <mdp> probably for a few features that aren't mainline
Jan 09 15:51:50 <mdp> omap2plus_defconfig
Jan 09 15:51:56 <mdp> like PM
Jan 09 15:52:03 <mdp> BBB hdmi audio etc.
Jan 09 15:52:17 <Wizzup> mdp: Thank you for your answers. I mostly care about nand,usb,sd
Jan 09 15:52:20 <Wizzup> and ethernet
Jan 09 15:52:24 <Wizzup> Thanks... :)
Jan 09 15:52:34 <mdp> there's no nand on BBB
Jan 09 15:52:37 <Wizzup> And wrt randomly, lots of patches that are not relevant to the arch, etc
Jan 09 15:52:44 <Wizzup> mdp: What is /dev/mmcblk0 then?
Jan 09 15:52:45 <mdp> assuming you meant raw nand
Jan 09 15:52:48 <mdp> that's an eMMC
Jan 09 15:52:53 <Wizzup> OK, sorry :)
Jan 09 15:53:04 <mdp> and in common terminology, we don't consider that NAND as it's a managed device
Jan 09 15:53:15 <mdp> different drivers, of course
Jan 09 15:53:25 <Wizzup> Thank you ☺
Jan 09 15:53:43 <mdp> I cannot common on random blog howtos strewn across the interwebs. sadly, there is no barrier to posting guides ;)
Jan 09 15:53:59 <mdp> but yeah, try it and see if it has what you need
Jan 09 15:54:33 <mdp> you'll have to do some config enablement for whatever drivers you need..the generic omap2plus defconfig has little enabled
Jan 09 15:55:19 <mdp> I use gpio, emmc, pwm/ecap, usb gadget for my projects..all work fine for me
Jan 09 15:56:54 <Wizzup> Awesomeness :) Thanks
Jan 09 15:56:54 <Wizzup> Will report back and write a somewhat decent blog post
Jan 09 15:59:33 <mdp> Wizzup, if it's doc-like that can be a living document, I might recommend on elinux.org with other BBB docs. just a thought.
Jan 09 16:00:38 <mdp> also, you might find rcn-ee's kernel work on .12-.13 branches to be another resource to understand what isn't yet in mainline but being carried.
Jan 09 16:01:41 <Wizzup> Ok, I mostly care about the basics though: sd card, emmc, ethernet :)
Jan 09 16:01:47 <Wizzup> usb would be nice
Jan 09 16:03:30 <Wizzup> mdp: wrt little enabled, I assume that does contain basics, but I'll check :)
Jan 09 16:03:33 <mdp> dunno about usb host stability. it's been a source of failure for a long time with cppi 4.1 dma..but some patches supposedly make it usable now
Jan 09 16:03:48 <mdp> but I don't use host for anything so can't offer any help there.
Jan 09 16:04:23 <mdp> I just mean that you won't find pwm enabled, for example..etc. some of the !fundamentally needed to boot drivers
Jan 09 16:04:53 <mdp> cpsw works too, I nfsroot over that..but that's been there for a long while
Jan 09 16:05:18 <mdp> have fun
Jan 09 16:06:24 <Wizzup> Thanks
Jan 09 16:08:16 <johnwalkr> well my plan to replace PMICS on my fried beaglebones dind’t work
Jan 09 16:08:53 <johnwalkr> i kind of suspect that i dind’t get all pins connected since i’m not even getting the short flash of power led
Jan 09 16:09:19 <johnwalkr> i’ll try again another day. i managed to find one to order for ONLY $70 (most are $120)
Jan 09 16:09:47 <johnwalkr> most vendors said they will get more in april but mouser says jan 20, so we will see
Jan 09 16:10:07 <johnwalkr> anyone have an inside story on when boards will ship again?
Jan 09 16:26:55 <Wizzup> mdp: Thanks so much. Mainline kernel ``just works''
Jan 09 16:27:05 <mdp> +1
Jan 09 16:27:50 <mdp> np
Jan 09 16:29:35 <Wizzup> Now to apply the grsec patch (when it comes out) ;-)
Jan 09 16:29:59 <johnwalkr> what’s grsec
Jan 09 16:32:19 <Wizzup> johnwalkr: https://grsecurity.net/
Jan 09 16:33:20 <johnwalkr> oh that involves kernel patching? interesting
Jan 09 17:00:52 <malik> hi
Jan 09 17:00:59 <malik> does anyone have a datasheet to this tda controller?
Jan 09 17:01:09 <_av500_> tda?
Jan 09 17:02:02 <malik> it's the chip that converts the video signal to hdmi
Jan 09 17:02:05 <malik> on the beaglebone black
Jan 09 17:07:53 <johnwalkr> it’s not readily available?
Jan 09 17:08:20 <malik> apparently not
Jan 09 17:08:55 <mdp> contact NXP
Jan 09 17:21:23 <malik> mdp: i tried, without success. hoped someone could help me out.
Jan 09 17:22:59 <mdp> yeah, a terrible design decision for an open platform
Jan 09 17:23:04 <mdp> but cost is king ;)
Jan 09 17:23:17 <devarsh_revelado> hey guyz
Jan 09 17:23:34 <devarsh_revelado> i am trying to port ubuntu on beagleboard black
Jan 09 17:24:07 <devarsh_revelado> i am facing problem with uboot configuration and along with it, rootfs config
Jan 09 17:24:08 <anujdeshpande> devarsh_revelado: ubuntu already runs on beaglebone black
Jan 09 17:24:09 <malik> mdp: agreed :(
Jan 09 17:24:21 <devarsh_revelado> can same1 help me
Jan 09 17:29:45 <johnwalkr> bye mrpackethead
Jan 09 17:31:11 <devarsh_revelado> on some site i found ubuntu image, but if ubuntu is to be build nad ported from scratch, is there any blog or information available somewhere?
Jan 09 17:54:01 <Vaizki_> Wtf is with the people wanting to build Linux from scratch on the bbb and demanding someone to hold their hand...
Jan 09 17:54:25 <Vaizki_> If you have to ask you maybe shouldn't be doing it
Jan 09 17:54:39 <johnwalkr> Vaizki_: related question
Jan 09 17:55:11 <johnwalkr> i got to step 1 of 2000 porting nextstep to BBB
Jan 09 17:55:16 <johnwalkr> got some error
Jan 09 17:55:19 <johnwalkr> what happened
Jan 09 17:56:30 <Vaizki_> ...
Jan 09 18:01:54 <k4jcw> Are you criticizing my question, Vaizki_ ?
Jan 09 18:17:57 <Vaizki_> I didnt see your question
Jan 09 18:34:36 <k4jcw> I've grabbed the git for the 3.8.13-bone32 sources, and ran the build_kernel.sh script. However, it ends up aborting with "error: Your local changes to the following files would be overwritten by checkout: net/netfilter/xt_RATEEST.c net/netfilter/xt_TCPMSS.c Please, commit your changes or stash them before you can switch branches." I'm only running the build_kernel.sh script, and *I* haven't made any changes to these files.
Jan 09 18:34:54 <k4jcw> Actually, I'm betting this is an rcn-ee question, as I think he built these releases :)
Jan 09 18:35:00 <k4jcw> So where do I go from here? Should I commit them? And where's it going to commit them to? And why are they considered modified?
Jan 09 18:35:17 <Vaizki_> eh
Jan 09 18:35:49 <rcn-ee> k4jcw, could you pastebin.com the full terminal output and gcc version.. i have it setup to nuke ./KERNEL/ not sure why it's failing..
Jan 09 18:35:52 <Vaizki_> the build_kernel.sh is clearly checking out stuff from some other git repo
Jan 09 18:36:04 <rcn-ee> it does a lot of stuff.. ;)
Jan 09 18:36:10 <Vaizki_> ha! the horse's mouth is here :)
Jan 09 18:36:25 <Vaizki_> oh and thanks for the great BBB kernels, I use your stuff too
Jan 09 18:36:28 <rcn-ee> in most cases it assumes the "worst" and tries to "fix" it. .;)
Jan 09 18:36:42 <Vaizki_> but I just rely on Arch PKGBUILDs
Jan 09 18:36:49 <Vaizki_> which pull your tarballs
Jan 09 18:37:17 <Vaizki_> no need to be on the bleedingest edgiest frontline here :)
Jan 09 18:37:45 <rcn-ee> that reminds me.. i need to checkout their config's.. sometimes they forget to enable new things...
Jan 09 18:49:00 <salaet> HI
Jan 09 18:49:15 <salaet> anybody knows why beaglebone black not runs uart1_rts
Jan 09 18:49:17 <salaet> ¿
Jan 09 18:49:49 <k4jcw> rcn-ee, here ya go. http://pastebin.com/uYkAYS3c
Jan 09 18:50:28 <rcn-ee> oh god... don't run from the *.tar. ;)
Jan 09 18:51:23 <k4jcw> Version with gcc -v output: http://pastebin.com/PJVXxmMS
Jan 09 18:51:36 <k4jcw> Why not? I'm trying to explicitly build 3.8.13-bone32
Jan 09 18:53:12 <rcn-ee> it's just never been tested... if you want  3.8.13-bone32 specifally.. specially when you are building on the target, just use the kernel 3.8.13 + patch + config...
Jan 09 18:53:51 <rcn-ee> my guess is, you actually ran out of space too...
Jan 09 18:53:59 <k4jcw> No, I'm on a 16GB SD card
Jan 09 18:56:08 <k4jcw> Allow me to ask the stupid question, then... What's the point of the .tar file, complete with build_kernel.sh? It looks like you put some nice effort into creating the scripts and such to do the job...
Jan 09 18:57:56 <rcn-ee> so your asking me... What's the point of the github feature to download a "*tar" file... ;) your asking the wrong person..
Jan 09 18:59:35 <rcn-ee> if you want  3.8.13-bone32, just "git clone git://github.com/RobertCNelson/linux-dev.git ; cd linux-dev ; git checkout 3.8.13-bone32 -b" as every point release is tagged. ;)
Jan 09 19:01:37 <k4jcw> OK, trying that approach. See, I'm not a git user. Ask me svn questions, I'm good. Playing with kernels? Good (although new to the Beagle side, but doing embedded systems work for 30+ years). But git? BLEH.
Jan 09 19:02:25 <rcn-ee> i was a svn user too... after a few years of working with git... i get git now..
Jan 09 19:03:52 <k4jcw> I'm too entrenched with svn at work and such to switch, at this point. OK, so it switched to the 3.8.13-bone32 branch, what git command actually causes it to pull the files (assuming it already hasn't)
Jan 09 19:13:02 <salaet> sorry I lost my connection , anybody told me about it?
Jan 09 20:04:11 <ugvjhbjlb> Hello
Jan 09 20:04:38 <ugvjhbjlb> I am interested in buying the BeagleBone Black (BBB) and a few accessories for it, but I am a student on a tight budget. Is it possible for me to obtain a discount if I buy all of these items at once? My budget is about $70 for all these items:
Jan 09 20:05:05 <ugvjhbjlb> BeagleBone Black
Jan 09 20:05:13 <ugvjhbjlb> 5V power supply for BBB
Jan 09 20:05:25 <ugvjhbjlb> 2-port USB2.0 hub for BBB (compatible with Ubuntu 13.10)
Jan 09 20:05:25 <prpplague> ugvjhbjlb: each distributor has their own policies, but in general i know of no distributor that provides student discounts
Jan 09 20:05:27 <ugvjhbjlb> USB WiFi for BBB (with driver for Ubuntu 13.10)
Jan 09 20:05:34 <prpplague> ugvjhbjlb: maybe contact element14
Jan 09 20:06:50 <stt_michael> ugvjhbjlb: I suspect the best you'll manage is if you contact your college/uni/etc and see if they can help
Jan 09 20:07:01 <stt_michael> or not.
Jan 09 20:07:15 <pjustice> check with hacker spaces, sometimes they can get discounts, and may pass them on
Jan 09 20:07:30 <pjustice> I got 5V wall warts badged d-link from amazon for a few bucks each
Jan 09 20:08:03 <stt_michael> .. I think he left
Jan 09 20:08:04 <pjustice> aaand, it left
Jan 09 20:46:13 <antodoms> is there any indian BBB users here who have made wifi work out of the box in Angstrom latest build ??
Jan 09 20:47:55 <anujdeshpande> antodoms: why are you looking for indians ?
Jan 09 20:48:12 <anujdeshpande> i believe wifi is the same everywhere you go
Jan 09 20:48:42 <antodoms> i need to know which wifi adapter they used ??  since many wifi routers that i saw works with angstrom are not available in indian stores
Jan 09 20:49:41 <antodoms> adapters that can be bought from amazon , flipkart would be great.... but i am not sure which one will  be supported with angstrom
Jan 09 20:50:08 <anujdeshpande> any one which has support for linux should be ok i think
Jan 09 20:50:23 <anujdeshpande> i got mine from adafruit so can't say much
Jan 09 20:50:54 <antodoms> is adafruit wifi dongle available to b bought in india??
Jan 09 20:51:00 <antodoms> how is its performance??
Jan 09 20:53:10 <anujdeshpande> not in india i think
Jan 09 20:53:21 <anujdeshpande> you could check embedded market
Jan 09 20:53:27 <anujdeshpande> webstore based in india
Jan 09 20:53:43 <anujdeshpande> they apparently are adafruit distributors
Jan 09 20:55:15 <stt_michael> antodoms: there should be some beaglebone compatible wifi adapters published online
Jan 09 20:55:32 <antodoms> I am planning to buy  EDUP EP-8508N Mini Wireless N 11n Wi-Fi Nano USB Adapter  which works on  8188cus chip from Realtek.... In the Amazon site it says to supports linux but i am not sure about the Angstrom distribution...
Jan 09 20:56:08 <stt_michael> antodoms: in the main, if its supported in the linux kernel .. it doesn't matter if you're runnign debian/angstrom/ubuntu/arch .. it'll either work or not :)
Jan 09 20:57:34 <antodoms> stt_michael : I tried to contact two of the certified Beaglebone Black distributors in India.... They only know about raspberry pie but havent tested with beaglebone.....
Jan 09 20:57:53 <prpplague> hehe
Jan 09 20:57:55 <stt_michael> antodoms: http://wikidevi.com/wiki/EDUP_EP-N8508 shows the card as being a realtek 8192-derived .. so the rtl8192cu driver shoudl work for you
Jan 09 21:02:52 <carpman> realtek is pretty well supported in the mainline kernel
Jan 09 21:03:47 <antodoms> @stt_michael... thanks for the quick reply....  :D  So I guess i can use the standard  linux driver in angstrom without much hustle.... ??  Cause i have seen many in people complaining at Beaglebone google Group regarding "Wifi not supported"  issue.... And i dont want to be one... :P
Jan 09 21:03:48 <stt_michael> the only remaining question is which version of angstrom .. and which kernel is in it ..
Jan 09 21:04:12 <stt_michael> antodoms: make sure you use a Powered hub .. as the beagle cannot supply sufficient power on the built-in port.
Jan 09 21:04:49 <antodoms> @stt_michael .... Am using the latest Angstrom build.... kernel 3.8.13
Jan 09 21:05:06 <stt_michael> antodoms: do you have it running? can you do a "uname -a" please?
Jan 09 21:05:38 <antodoms> yes i am using a different powered hub for connecting usb devices....
Jan 09 21:06:17 <antodoms> @st_michael... nope... I didnt buy the wifi dongle yet... i wanted to make sure befady invested too much on my project... :Pore i buy.... i alre
Jan 09 21:06:39 <stt_michael> antodoms: do you have your  beagle!? :p
Jan 09 21:06:41 <antodoms> @st_michael... nope... I didnt buy the wifi dongle yet... i wanted to make sure before i buy.... i already invested too much on my project... :P
Jan 09 21:07:04 <stt_michael> antodoms: just run the command On the beagle .. it tells us your kernel version
Jan 09 21:08:04 <antodoms> opps sorry... i mistook the command for some wlan related stuffs.. my bad... 1 sec .. let me try
Jan 09 21:08:40 <antodoms> ady invested too much on my project... :P
Jan 09 21:08:53 <stt_michael> antodoms: I'm sure it'll be worthwhile
Jan 09 21:08:54 <antodoms> Linux beaglebone 3.8.13 #1 SMP Thu Sep 12 10:27:06 CEST 2013 armv7l GNU/Linux
Jan 09 21:09:15 <antodoms> sorry , too much typos.....
Jan 09 21:10:29 <antodoms> @stt_michael...I have updated my angstrom a week back.... and i guess sept build is the latest 1...
Jan 09 21:11:17 <stt_michael> for angstrom, thats probably about right
Jan 09 21:11:51 <stt_michael> antodoms: what I was looking for earlier is:- http://www.elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack#WIFI_Adapters
Jan 09 21:12:42 <antodoms> after updating i have a new problem... i have only a limited space left in my beaglebone memory....  I guess i have to clear some useless packages....
Jan 09 21:13:17 <stt_michael> hmm .. you must have been enthusiastic there ....
Jan 09 21:13:44 <antodoms> @stt_michael... yaah , i have seen that link... and it suports only 2 wifi dongles for angstrom.... 1 of them is available in Amazon.in but the problem is it doesnt have a good review and too much complaint about inconsistent conection
Jan 09 21:14:45 <stt_michael> antodoms: angstrom seems to have quite a limited set of drivers for peripherals .. without building additional ones yourself.
Jan 09 21:15:36 <stt_michael> antodoms: the good news is .. its not too painful to build your own kernel .. and there are instructions online for doing so if needed.
Jan 09 21:16:51 <antodoms> yes i know... i did a small research regarding this and finally came to a conclusion to ask here to any indians who were successful in getting wifi with beaglebone black and bought it from any indian online store.... India is still behind regarding availability of Embedded products....
Jan 09 21:17:45 <antodoms> yes i did a research on that also... i found this post very interesting  http://derekmolloy.ie/beaglebone/beaglebone-adding-usb-wi-fi-building-a-linux-kernel/
Jan 09 21:18:45 <heeen> does anyone have a DTO for pruss gpios
Jan 09 21:19:15 <m_billybob> rcn-ee, plase halp !!! lol feel for ya bud
Jan 09 21:20:06 <m_billybob> sometimes I wonder how people manage to survive so long not being able to figure out anything for themselves.
Jan 09 21:21:22 <heeen> https://github.com/omcaree/node-pru looking at this,
Jan 09 21:21:40 <heeen> pruicss_pins: pinmux_pruicss_pins <- are these strings free to choose
Jan 09 21:21:57 <heeen> or only the pruicss part
Jan 09 21:39:06 <Wizzup> mdp: Wrote a small post on mainline linux on beagle, kept it short so it hopefully confuses people less http://blog.wizzup.org/blog/beaglebone-mainline-3.13-rc7
Jan 09 21:40:27 <stt_michael> Wizzup .. looking forward to doing some arm development with native gentoo tools .. bein lazy an using linaro :( bad bad bad!
Jan 09 21:41:05 <mdp> Wizzup, the bootz support is not strictly required
Jan 09 21:41:08 <mdp> for u-boot
Jan 09 21:41:15 <Wizzup> crossdev makes it all very simple :)
Jan 09 21:41:36 <stt_michael> Wizzup.. indeed .. have actually ued it for a cortex-m3 target successfully
Jan 09 21:41:46 <Wizzup> mdp: To be honest, I don't really know what it does either
Jan 09 21:41:59 <Wizzup> I just used the u-boot part from the online guide
Jan 09 21:42:02 <Wizzup> I will change the post a bit
Jan 09 21:42:07 <stt_michael> mdp: the bootz might not ... but RN's edits make it possible to move the kernel into a partition rather than just dd-ed on to the disk
Jan 09 21:42:13 <stt_michael> (like the uboot, but messy)
Jan 09 21:42:41 <rcn-ee> zImage/bootz is the way to go.. you don't have to remember the mkimage magic syntax... ;)
Jan 09 21:42:46 <mdp> nevertheless, if you want mainline u-boot, it works unchanged as well
Jan 09 21:43:05 <stt_michael> you can use mainline uboot I'm sure .. just gotta patch it ;P
Jan 09 21:43:09 <mdp> rcn-ee, what's the status of that upstream?
Jan 09 21:43:09 <Wizzup> mdp: by making an uImage yu mean?
Jan 09 21:43:15 <mdp> yup
Jan 09 21:43:36 <stt_michael> rcn: is there any particular difference between uimage/zimage? they're both compressed no?
Jan 09 21:43:36 <rcn-ee> u-boot... honestly haven't looked at it since rc1..
Jan 09 21:43:49 * stt_michael tut tuts .. lol
Jan 09 21:43:54 <rcn-ee> uImage = zImage + mkimage header
Jan 09 21:44:00 <pjustice> apparently in uImage there's a small header on the front of a zImage
Jan 09 21:44:13 <stt_michael> ah
Jan 09 21:44:18 <pjustice> current angstrom seems not to be able to build a uImage
Jan 09 21:44:33 <mdp> rcn-ee, if there's something that should work differently in mainline, Tartartus will be eager to hear about it
Jan 09 21:44:36 <pjustice> or I can't figure out where to stab it to get it to do so
Jan 09 21:44:43 <stt_michael> I think you just need the right tools pjustice
Jan 09 21:45:01 <pjustice> the .bb file for 3.8 says zImage, though
Jan 09 21:45:08 <heeen> is the name of the dts and dto files important?
Jan 09 21:45:13 <stt_michael> pjustice .. must be a reason they're not using it then
Jan 09 21:45:13 <pjustice> I mean, easy enough to frob the env to work anyway
Jan 09 21:45:41 <stt_michael> pjustice .. create a new bb and post it online ;)
Jan 09 21:45:44 <pjustice> but the kit isn't self-consistent
Jan 09 21:45:56 * stt_michael doesn't like angstrom .. heh
Jan 09 21:46:08 <rcn-ee> mdp, i think it's okay... need to double check if it handles the dual card situation "sanly" i don't want it halting just beacuse microSD is blank..
Jan 09 21:46:50 <stt_michael> Go Forth and Test :p and Patch .. and Publish :D hehe
Jan 09 21:46:57 <pjustice> I was actually hoping angstrom would be the easy way to start with the assorted patches and stuff already integrated, then subtract all the desktop crazy that's in there for $deity-knows-what-reason and produce a layer-or-whatever that is useful
Jan 09 21:47:14 <mdp> rcn-ee, they may have coded themselves into a corner with the single image for all am335x..wrt differing default env
Jan 09 21:47:51 <mdp> rcn-ee, I'm nfsrooting so I haven't found a need to change from uImage
Jan 09 21:48:12 <mdp> er, and tftp boot, of course
Jan 09 21:48:42 <rcn-ee> yeah they did.. but it still can be messaged... for v2014.01 i'd like to minize this.. https://github.com/RobertCNelson/Bootloader-Builder/blob/master/patches/v2013.10/0001-am335x_evm-uEnv.txt-bootz-n-fixes.patch#L129 (but the extra debugging is useful for customers..)
Jan 09 21:49:55 <rcn-ee> there's nothing really wrong with uImage.. if all your targets have the same zreladdr..  it's just when you start swapping microSD from different manufactures it gets interesting.. (specially from the same kernel build..)
Jan 09 21:55:53 <m_billybob> never heard of crossdev" before
Jan 09 22:01:09 <Wizzup> It's a gentoo project
Jan 09 22:01:21 <stt_michael> crossdev is handy .. esp if you're a gentoo-head .. cos you have all the tools natively
Jan 09 22:01:32 <stt_michael> so you use the tools to create new tools :D
Jan 09 22:01:35 <heeen>  echo ledmatrix > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.8/slots
Jan 09 22:01:38 <heeen> -sh: echo: write error: No such file or directory
Jan 09 22:01:40 <heeen> hmm :(
Jan 09 22:01:56 <stt_michael> capemgr.9 ? just check
Jan 09 22:02:19 <stt_michael> think I seen something odd like that
Jan 09 22:02:24 <heeen> I only have 8
Jan 09 22:02:28 <stt_michael> ah my bad then
Jan 09 22:02:32 <m_billybob> yeah the concept of gentoo is appealing to me but practically . .
Jan 09 22:02:36 <heeen> root@beaglebone:~# cat /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.8/slots
Jan 09 22:02:39 <heeen>  0: 54:PF---
Jan 09 22:02:41 <heeen>  1: 55:PF---
Jan 09 22:02:41 <m_billybob> i have enough projects for the time being lol
Jan 09 22:02:43 <heeen>  2: 56:PF---
Jan 09 22:02:45 <heeen>  3: 57:PF---
Jan 09 22:03:36 <stt_michael> is that your dtb heeen?
Jan 09 22:03:41 <heeen> yeah
Jan 09 22:03:45 <heeen> let me paste it
Jan 09 22:04:38 <heeen> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=vZbrLApP
Jan 09 22:05:01 <stt_michael> heeen: a la http://elinux.org/Capemgr#Loading_a_Fragment_at_Runtime ?
Jan 09 22:05:15 <heeen> ls root@beaglebone:~# ls /lib/firmware/led*
Jan 09 22:05:18 <heeen> /lib/firmware/ledmatrix.dtbo  /lib/firmware/ledmatrix.dts
Jan 09 22:05:56 <stt_michael> dtbo I think uyou'll find
Jan 09 22:06:17 <heeen> hm?
Jan 09 22:06:20 <stt_michael> btw .. that block in th emiddle .. with all the comments .. ouch! :p
Jan 09 22:06:27 <heeen> :)
Jan 09 22:07:13 <stt_michael> do you have write access to capemgr.8/slots?
Jan 09 22:07:21 <heeen> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4096 Jan  9 23:06 /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.8/slots
Jan 09 22:07:38 <stt_michael> hrm odd
Jan 09 22:08:35 <heeen> ah
Jan 09 22:09:01 <heeen> got something in dmesg
Jan 09 22:09:14 <stt_michael> always a good place to look! :)
Jan 09 22:09:18 <heeen> [  260.041997] bone-capemgr bone_capemgr.8: part_number 'ledmatrix', version 'N/A'
Jan 09 22:09:20 <heeen> [  260.042107] bone-capemgr bone_capemgr.8: slot #4: generic override
Jan 09 22:09:22 <heeen> [  260.042133] bone-capemgr bone_capemgr.8: bone: Using override eeprom data at slot 4
Jan 09 22:09:24 <heeen> [  260.042158] bone-capemgr bone_capemgr.8: slot #4: 'Override Board Name,00A0,Override Manuf,ledmatrix'
Jan 09 22:09:26 <heeen> [  260.042296] bone-capemgr bone_capemgr.8: slot #4: Requesting part number/version based 'ledmatrix-00A0.dtbo
Jan 09 22:09:28 <heeen> [  260.042322] bone-capemgr bone_capemgr.8: slot #4: Requesting firmware 'ledmatrix-00A0.dtbo' for board-name 'Override Board Name', version '00A0'
Jan 09 22:09:30 <heeen> [  260.057601] bone-capemgr bone_capemgr.8: failed to load firmware 'ledmatrix-00A0.dtbo'
Jan 09 22:09:32 <heeen> [  394.143318] bone-capemgr bone_capemgr.8: part_number 'ledmatrix', version 'N/A'
Jan 09 22:10:38 <heeen> looks like you must have the version
Jan 09 22:12:29 <stt_michael> heeen: you wil need to abide by the capemgr dtb rules ;P
Jan 09 22:12:51 <stt_michael> heeen: http://elinux.org/BeagleBone_and_the_3.8_Kernel#Cape_Manager_and_Device_Tree_Overlays
Jan 09 22:13:03 <stt_michael> ah uh *cough* pastebin ;P
Jan 09 22:13:12 <stt_michael> and**
Jan 09 22:13:30 <heeen> hmmm
Jan 09 22:13:33 <heeen> [   81.073122] omap_hwmod: pruss: failed to hardreset
Jan 09 22:13:35 <heeen> [   81.106968] bone-capemgr bone_capemgr.8: slot #4: Applied #3 overlays.
Jan 09 22:13:37 <heeen> [   81.123145] pruss_uio 4a300000.pruss: pins are not configured from the driver
Jan 09 22:13:55 <heeen> but it appeared to have loaded
Jan 09 22:14:14 <heeen> that last line I don't get though
Jan 09 22:20:34 <stt_michael> heeen: probably an information statement or warning rather than error
Jan 09 22:22:10 <stt_michael> heeen: have you seen this: http://www.element14.com/community/community/knode/single-board_computers/next-gen_beaglebone/blog/2013/05/22/bbb--working-with-the-pru-icssprussv2
Jan 09 22:25:24 <stt_michael> maybe a bit long .. but quite comprehensive
Jan 09 22:37:35 <heeen> stt_michael: yes I oriented myself after that guide
Jan 09 22:40:23 <stt_michael> :) cool
Jan 09 23:54:46 <Asics> hello
Jan 10 00:44:08 <stt_michael> home time .. bbl :)
Jan 10 00:50:45 <_riz_> Trying to find some additional information on what needs to be on a microsd for a beaglebone (not black) to load u-boot
Jan 10 00:51:19 <_riz_> I've tried making the first fdisk partition a fat32 and installing MLO, u-boot.img and uEnv.txt, but I get "CCCCC"
Jan 10 00:51:34 <_riz_> does it need to be fat16 or something?
Jan 10 00:52:00 <rcn-ee> it's very picky... are you using virtualization, a what version of the "various" fdisk/sfdisk/etc..
Jan 10 00:52:15 <_riz_> (I copied MLO and u-boot.img from another, working card)
Jan 10 00:52:34 <_riz_> yeah that's the issue, right now all I've got is a mac
Jan 10 00:53:04 <_riz_> but I do, in general, need to be able to create a various-sized fat partition for uboot, etc
Jan 10 00:53:25 <rcn-ee> Then just dd the image..  otherwise you'll just waste time down that virtualization rabbit hole..
Jan 10 00:53:35 <_riz_> no, I need to be able to create ot
Jan 10 00:53:36 <_riz_> it
Jan 10 00:53:43 <rcn-ee> reboot into linux..
Jan 10 00:53:45 <_riz_> so I can create the image to dd :)
Jan 10 00:54:19 <_riz_> which tools create a working image on linux?
Jan 10 00:54:44 <_riz_> so I can figure out the particulars of what it needs, since it's not documented that I can find
Jan 10 00:55:02 <_riz_> eventually I'll be doing this from netbsd, since that's what the bone is running
Jan 10 00:55:12 <rcn-ee> sfdisk works best: http://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black#BeagleBoneBlack-SetupmicroSD/SDcard  (althouh util-linux-ng 2.17.2 is broken..)
Jan 10 00:55:35 <_riz_> wtf is a util-linux-ng?  :)
Jan 10 00:55:45 <_riz_> but thanks, this'll help
Jan 10 00:57:12 <_riz_> yeah it seems to want fat16 (or at least creates it)
Jan 10 01:00:23 <rcn-ee> i use fat16 by default, it's been reliable for years, but fat32 should work too.. but different versions of sfdisk/fdisk have bugs/etc..
Jan 10 01:00:58 <_riz_> k once i get to a better location I'll try various combos
Jan 10 01:02:32 <rcn-ee> sfdisk has a nice advantage over fdisk.. it works well with losetup, so it's easy to create *.img files..
Jan 10 01:03:37 <_riz_> the right answer for me is never "use this magic binary" - I need to understand what the actual requirements are.  But i'll see what's different abot it
Jan 10 02:20:39 <ds2> sigh... ubuntu is one of those thing's who's overall impression goes monotonically downwards as one is forced to use it
Jan 10 02:20:55 <Russ> much like communism
Jan 10 02:21:25 <ds2> I'd think it is worse :D
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