**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jan 15 02:59:59 2014 Jan 15 03:37:03 How can I determine the default mode for the BBB I/O pins? Jan 15 03:38:09 I'm looking at the SRM table. I know for example P_19 and P_20 are defaulted to mode 3 for I2C, but I'm not sure how to tell in general for all pins Jan 15 03:40:17 I guess maybe it does not matter so much, it's probably better to set them to the desired mode and be sure :) Jan 15 05:40:34 http://makezine.com/2014/01/14/5-easy-javascript-tricks-you-can-teach-your-beaglebone/ Bam, Makezine Jan 15 07:50:52 hey developers, I am trying to get logs of beaglebone black connected to my laptop. as TTL cable is not available i am using usb-to-Uart converter and appropriate pins are attached to beagle bone black J1 connector(rx,tx,gnd) pins. but i am not getting any out put on the console (sometimes random symbols are observed) could this be coz of wrong config.? or quality of jumper cable? Jan 15 07:51:38 what ıs your usb-to-uart device exacly? Jan 15 07:51:54 a lot of mistakes happening at that point Jan 15 07:53:02 the usb-to-uart is a converter device available in the market. a serial adapter Jan 15 07:53:20 thats not what he asked you . . . Jan 15 07:53:29 so that i can get the logs on my laptop's console Jan 15 07:53:59 that is what he asked, am i wrong? because he's not able to get anything from serial apparently? Jan 15 07:55:07 u r right musufu,. or should i reframe my query ? Jan 15 07:55:10 devarsh_revelado: then I assume it also has a DB-9 RS-232 connector at one end? did you connect it directly or do you have a rs232-to-ttl converter between? Jan 15 07:55:56 musufu specifically asked what exact device are you using . . . Jan 15 07:55:56 no- i dont have rs232-to-ttl converter inbetween Jan 15 07:56:23 aaah :D m_billybob2: i got your statement wrong :D sorry Jan 15 07:56:38 so devarsh_revelado, please stop what you are doing right now Jan 15 07:57:10 and get yourself a rs232-to-ttl converter, or just a usb-uart-ttl cable like ft232r-3.3 Jan 15 07:57:20 you might have damaged the beaglebone Jan 15 07:57:29 ok. it has USB at one end and DB-9 RS232 at the other end. there is no TTL cable or RS232-to-TTL converter available inbetween Jan 15 07:57:50 ... Jan 15 07:57:56 mpre importantly what voltage Jan 15 07:58:01 right, the 3.3V version is not optional... and many 5V only versions exist Jan 15 07:58:07 more importantly* Jan 15 07:58:42 as the serial on the BBB is 3v3 ttl . .. Jan 15 07:59:12 i think i hear this http://www.freesound.org/people/BigKahuna360/sounds/160421/ Jan 15 07:59:13 it is 3.3 V mentioned on the converter but not guarantied as its not branded Jan 15 08:00:22 i've checked online and with the BBB dealer of India(bangalore) but i am not able to get TTL cable hence i was trying this way Jan 15 08:00:36 Rickta59: LOL :D:D Jan 15 08:01:39 why don't you just connect via sftp over the usb cable devarsh_revelado ? Jan 15 08:02:16 skip the uart and use the usb gadget network Jan 15 08:02:54 i am not aware of how to do that Jan 15 08:03:29 sftp root@192.168.7.2 when the BBB is plugged in Jan 15 08:03:29 as i am new to this field.. if you have any idea or any link then plz share Jan 15 08:04:14 ok Jan 15 08:04:34 i'll try it and get more info. from googling.. Jan 15 08:05:09 learnign how to use linux would be a very good start Jan 15 08:05:15 but if we want to change uboot @ that point of time we don have anyother choice but TTL cable is the only 1 right ? Jan 15 08:05:58 ok.. i'll follow tht Jan 15 08:06:02 <_av500_> yes Jan 15 08:06:17 <_av500_> if you want to interact with uboot, you need the TTL cable Jan 15 08:08:34 i was learning to modify u-boot to port the other OS.. thanks av500: but it seems i need TTL cable to begin with and meanwhile i'll learn few linux techniques :) Jan 15 08:09:23 you're up late Rick Jan 15 08:09:30 or I should say early Jan 15 10:57:31 Hello, I have a timing based issue with my beaglebone black. If (using python) I create a simple file that prints out time.time(), turns a LED on, waits 5 seconds, turns the LED off then prints time.time() again, I get strange behaviour. The print of time.time() is correct however the LED does not stay on for 5 seconds, instead it turns on for anywhere between 0.5 and 5 seconds, changing every time. The LED is connected to P9_16 which Jan 15 10:57:45 Sorry for the wall of text Jan 15 11:01:55 jitter is to be expected, but such wide is surprising Jan 15 11:02:57 I can provide the contents of the file and the output if this will help. It is a very simple file ~10 lines long. Jan 15 11:03:43 tbr: That is what I thought too, the timing does not need to be preicise, as long as it +/- 1 sec which is an eternity in clock cycles Jan 15 11:05:14 have you tried instead with a simple bash script to write to sysfs? Jan 15 11:06:36 I'm afraid the solution has to be in python, but no I havent Jan 15 11:07:04 sure, but that would at least verify your problem isn't outside of your script Jan 15 11:24:14 is there a way to load a dtbo on boot Jan 15 11:24:39 apart fropm putting a echo foo > .../slots in som init.d script Jan 15 11:33:35 heeen: use the uENV file Jan 15 11:35:45 cityLights: thanks Jan 15 11:36:45 I think its uENV.txt but I need to google it Jan 15 11:49:04 is anyone here using geda? Jan 15 11:49:20 I seek PCB help Jan 15 11:50:28 It's one of more crude (thus less popular) PCB tools... personally, I don't use it. Jan 15 11:53:09 cityLights: there is a geda channel on freenode, try that one Jan 15 11:53:38 pwillard: do you use eagle? Jan 15 11:53:47 pwillard: it's not more crude than kicad or eagle Jan 15 11:54:06 pwillard: just less colours and you need to know what you are doing instead of clicking wildly until it does what you want Jan 15 11:54:14 Agreed. Jan 15 11:54:52 Diptrace seems to be an emerging favorite. Jan 15 11:56:35 well.. when it comes to comercial software, i'd rather use something usable instead of half backed stuff like diptrace or eagle Jan 15 11:58:36 well, the #geda channel is very quiet Jan 15 11:58:46 so? Jan 15 11:58:53 can anyone here help me define a relay footprint? Jan 15 11:58:54 do you expect people constanly chatting? Jan 15 11:58:57 simple 8 pins Jan 15 11:59:08 have you read the datasheet? Jan 15 11:59:19 yes I did Jan 15 11:59:33 have you read the pcb documentation on how to define a footprint? Jan 15 11:59:47 I have never defined a part, and the video I found on youtube is not helpping much Jan 15 11:59:51 lol Jan 15 11:59:58 RTFM man, RTFM Jan 15 12:00:04 youtube is not a FM Jan 15 12:00:18 kotH: I need a specific help Jan 15 12:00:28 then ask specific questions Jan 15 12:00:35 but know, that i dont know anything about pcb :) Jan 15 12:00:43 how to define a hole for a pin? Jan 15 12:01:10 I look at the 0.25W resistor throu-hole file Jan 15 12:01:10 i dunno pcb, but usually by defining a trough-hope pad Jan 15 12:01:25 right, I need help with this Jan 15 12:01:38 I have all the info from an eagle lbr file Jan 15 12:01:58 I just need to write it to a new file geda can read from Jan 15 12:03:03 cityLights: http://www.brorson.com/gEDA/land_patterns_20050129.pdf Jan 15 12:03:08 cityLights: first hit on google Jan 15 12:03:28 ok ok Jan 15 12:03:50 it even explains some of the not so obvious stuff you need to know when doing footprints Jan 15 12:18:36 Is a Beagleboard Black a good device for digital signage? Jan 15 12:20:44 ? Jan 15 12:21:34 depends on the type of signage Jan 15 12:22:42 Webbrowser, HTML pages with jQuery/CSS3 transitions Jan 15 12:22:43 like this Jan 15 12:22:44 http://www.tweakwise.com/home/narrowcastingpagina Jan 15 12:30:21 <_av500_> if you can live with 16bit color depth Jan 15 12:30:55 <_av500_> but generally speaking, yes Jan 15 12:32:51 Maikell: do you mean a beaglebone black? Jan 15 12:45:37 <_av500_> yes, he said black Jan 15 13:01:49 someone saying beagleboard black just suggests to me they might be confused about the various versions of beagle* around Jan 15 13:05:07 I think there's only one "black" ARM board around though :) Jan 15 13:23:42 blackborad beagle Jan 15 13:24:09 <_av500_> raspblack white Jan 15 17:15:59 nmap 189.2.52.178 Jan 15 17:16:03 :) Jan 15 17:24:22 I got all excited then, dispatch emails from RS & DHL for the order with the BBB & PSU ... they've sent the PSU on its own. sigh. Jan 15 17:34:46 lee: doh Jan 15 17:35:15 just fyi another 5k units will be shipping on friday to distributors Jan 15 17:35:45 all the back orders have been filled so there should be some starting to show up in inventory at the various distributors Jan 15 17:35:51 the RS stock estimate has gone back up to 7th March!! Jan 15 17:36:34 it's not mega urgent, because the things I want to control haven't arrived from the US yet... in fact I should probably chase that up, last USPS status update was on the 3rd Jan... Jan 15 17:36:37 lee: the RS stock comes from Makershed Jan 15 17:36:52 lee: so the bbb's have to go to makershed first for packaging and then to RS Jan 15 17:37:00 ahh Jan 15 17:37:13 it is good to simply know that stock is on the way, thanks! Jan 15 17:37:50 lee: well circuitco has been shipping 5k units per week since the last week of nov Jan 15 17:37:59 lee: just a large demand Jan 15 17:54:28 prpplague: yay! Jan 15 17:54:54 i ordered 2 and they said i won’t get them until april so i was really worried Jan 15 17:55:08 i was able to find one in an obscure store in stock, thankfully Jan 15 17:56:40 I got mine yesterday in Microcenter Jan 15 17:56:59 Seems this one is from old stock because it is A5C rev Jan 15 18:02:40 Thinking about replacing my home server with BBB Jan 15 18:12:42 trying to find mcasp i2s example code... anyone know where I could find? Jan 15 18:14:07 not sure if mcasp audio is working yet anyway Jan 15 18:18:26 in the kernel? Jan 15 19:29:28 So, where can I buy a BBB; I'm in the UK... Jan 15 19:30:02 Should I go for Olimex instead? Jan 15 19:30:15 scrandoc: farnell and element14 should have stock within a few days Jan 15 19:30:23 scrandoc: they are currently filling backorders Jan 15 19:30:31 ok Jan 15 19:35:24 Does anyone konw how the Olimex A20 compares? Jan 15 19:35:45 For a fairly new user... Jan 15 20:08:17 189. x ams Jan 15 20:08:19 | 2.52.178 Jan 15 20:08:54 prpplague: should have received an email from boss today Jan 15 20:09:23 nice @ btw Jan 15 20:09:36 stt_michael: i'll check on that Jan 15 20:09:38 stt_michael: ?? Jan 15 20:09:49 I didn't see the @ next to your nick yesterday :p Jan 15 20:18:37 hi all Jan 15 20:18:59 quick q.. sorry if its already been aked Jan 15 20:19:06 asked Jan 15 20:19:11 just ask .. Jan 15 20:19:17 * stt_michael points to the topic Jan 15 20:19:19 :) Jan 15 20:19:52 I cant find the BBB in stock anywhere.. anyone know where to find? Jan 15 20:20:13 where are you looking, rontopia? Jan 15 20:20:55 Last night I looked through the vender list Jan 15 20:21:41 I bought mine in local Microcenter yesterday but it was rev A5C Jan 15 20:22:08 A5C all I got .. except one A5A Jan 15 20:22:09 ok.. I will check there.. Jan 15 20:22:31 oh which is the latest version? Jan 15 20:22:35 there is a slight shortage in supply .. but this is being addressed already .. so hang tight :) Jan 15 20:23:05 i'm pretty amazed! Jan 15 20:23:16 A6A Jan 15 20:23:17 why for? Jan 15 20:23:24 A6A is in current production Jan 15 20:23:25 there were tens of thousands when i was looking a few months ago, with all the distributors combined. Jan 15 20:23:38 stoked about the power on problem Jan 15 20:23:46 ic Jan 15 20:23:47 see it constantly with cape power Jan 15 20:23:55 err, cape provided power. Jan 15 20:23:57 When I checked Digikey, there was 206, next day - none Jan 15 20:24:11 it is a sweet board Jan 15 20:24:12 yeah 100s are being ordered at a time .. Jan 15 20:24:32 800 gone in the UK at once Jan 15 20:24:34 Boom. Jan 15 20:24:43 For that price it is very sweet Jan 15 20:24:51 Circuitco are aware :) Jan 15 20:24:54 what is the diff between A5C and A6A? Jan 15 20:25:06 revision details at : http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack Jan 15 20:25:10 I just recently found Jan 15 20:25:11 http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack#Board_Revisions_and_Changes Jan 15 20:25:21 oops Jan 15 20:25:54 brb Jan 15 20:26:02 I just recently found out about the prus, even more functionality Jan 15 20:27:21 they are rad. Jan 15 20:27:39 duh.. thanks.. I was just going to go look. I want to know if its a componet change due to vender shortages.. or if its actual hardware changes to fix bugs Jan 15 20:27:50 we're using them at my company for in house stuff, cause screw fpgas and microcontrollers if you can just use python and linux or whatever. Jan 15 20:31:15 thanks guys.. I take back 3% of what i said about yall Jan 15 20:36:05 I was asking the other day in here about java bindings for interacting with prus, it did't seem like there was any, so I made some https://github.com/hiredman/beaglebone-pru-swig Jan 15 20:38:15 What is prus? Jan 15 20:39:24 http://elinux.org/Ti_AM33XX_PRUSSv2 Jan 15 20:40:15 almost like having built in arduinos Jan 15 20:43:37 Thank you hiredman! Jan 15 20:48:07 I've been playing with a BASIC compiler for the prus too https://github.com/hiredman/prubasic but I am not sure if that will be useful to anyone else (a compiler doing optimizations etc could interfere with the predictable realtiminess) Jan 15 20:52:10 spoonox: mmm... yes ... 189 times me! Jan 15 20:54:46 pru's are the only good way to interact wiht GPIOs from the processor Jan 15 20:55:00 and on that happy note .. I'm off home :) ttyl! Jan 15 23:10:31 [kernel] clacey09 pushed 1 new commit to 3.8: http://git.io/f--7SQ Jan 15 23:10:31 kernel/3.8 cd3c262 Cody Lacey: 3.8: Fix Writing to Read-Only Bit... Jan 15 23:21:16 [kernel] clacey09 pushed 1 new commit to 3.12: http://git.io/VHcVhg Jan 15 23:21:16 kernel/3.12 0269a35 Cody Lacey: 3.12: Fix Writing to Read-Only Bit... Jan 16 00:08:44 hello. can anyone tell me a resource on how to write device-tree overlay files? or even an explaination of some examples? or official documentation? Jan 16 00:11:47 http://learn.adafruit.com/introduction-to-the-beaglebone-black-device-tree/overview Jan 16 00:11:56 can't go too far wrong with Lady Adafruit :D Jan 16 00:12:26 or her minions :) Jan 16 00:23:32 thanks veremit. thats a start. what about some documentation on syntax and keywords to use? Jan 16 00:24:20 I think once you've looked at a few .. there's plenty of resources online if you google .. I know its still early days really for device-trees on the beagle .. but its getting there Jan 16 00:24:40 by all means if you have questions do ask Jan 16 00:24:46 ok, ill look into it Jan 16 00:25:26 came to a point where i realize i need to write a dt file in order to get my lcd working Jan 16 00:25:45 gonna look at the example files for LCD4 and LCD7 Jan 16 00:26:02 which lcd you using? Jan 16 00:26:11 problem is they use much overhead because of touch sensors Jan 16 00:26:21 :) not really Jan 16 00:26:34 im using a G104V1-T01 display Jan 16 00:26:36 I'm working on a project with the chalkboard 10" lcd .. Jan 16 00:27:01 its not a cape or something, but it has TTL interface which fits the lcd_data lines the BBB offers Jan 16 00:27:05 touch is on usb Jan 16 00:27:11 ahh Jan 16 00:27:27 Hi, i'm having trouble getting my BBB to power on. I have had it powered on lots of times (have been a while since last time now though), but now all i get is the power led. Jan 16 00:27:36 yes another person was gettng a lcd up .. had some issues with resolution and timings Jan 16 00:27:57 I have tried with DC power, USB 2.0, USB3.0 USB with two connections to two usb ports.. Jan 16 00:27:58 but i need to specify the timings, resolution etc very precisley and i think device tree is the way to go Jan 16 00:28:30 bematt .. I'd suspect the PMIC chip has gone south .. there is a known board issue which affects reset .. so check the hard reset solution before starting an RMA Jan 16 00:28:30 veremit, guess what? this was me :) Jan 16 00:28:32 The only LED that turns on is the power LED, all other LEDs are off. Jan 16 00:28:54 ahh ok Jan 16 00:28:55 ah still not nailed that puppy :P Jan 16 00:29:01 I read https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/beagleboard/aXv6An1xfqI Jan 16 00:29:05 <= goldfish Jan 16 00:29:38 veremit you have an url for the reset solution? Jan 16 00:29:46 ohh do you mean reflashing the emmc? Jan 16 00:29:48 i tried ubuntu, debian and stuff, but it is just too much fiddling with Xorg and kernel args and so on. Jan 16 00:30:20 if the display comes up in console .. you're there. Jan 16 00:30:47 bematt .. have you tried a debug connection to the serial header? Jan 16 00:31:09 i had it this far before starting to mess with alternative os'es, and now back with stock angstrom, i cant seem to get it working again :/ Jan 16 00:31:16 veremit hang on i'm just gonna write a question regarding the p8/p9 headers Jan 16 00:32:23 anyways, will start reading into DT files and perhaps modify these other LCD cape files to fit my needs. thanks for the pointers, gn8 Jan 16 00:33:01 you might find you need/want to disable the hdmi cape if you go down the DT route Jan 16 00:33:20 I have 4 16-ch relayboards connected to gpio pins P8-3 to P8-46, P9-11 to P9-30 when i start the beaglebone. Would that cause this behavior? Jan 16 00:33:32 I'm also using the GND pins on both P8 and P9 Jan 16 00:33:42 bematt .. if you take them off .. what happens?! :) Jan 16 00:34:30 you'll need a DC power supply connected to the jack capable of at least 3A at 5V if you are supplying power to the Beagle AND capes. Jan 16 00:34:33 veremit i know, i thought of that, but it is a real pita to remove all those small cables and hook them up to the right relay ppin again. So i thought i would ask before i tried. Jan 16 00:35:03 can you solder them to some header? that should make it easier .. Jan 16 00:35:07 veremit i don't supply any power to the relaycards from the BBB i have a 12V DC battery that manages them. Jan 16 00:35:36 veremit i was thinking if adding pinlists, but i haven't done that yet Jan 16 00:36:20 bematt .. depending on how you've got the relayboards wired you may have toasted the beagle processor chip .. relays (and their drivers often) can be very rough electronic devices to a sensitive processor chip .. do you have any schematics? Jan 16 00:38:34 veremit i have only wired the gpio pins to the "firing" pins on the relays.. that turns the relays on or off with or without current to the pins Jan 16 00:38:48 hang on i'll give you schematics of the relay cards and a picture of my setup Jan 16 00:38:58 thanks .. Jan 16 00:40:32 http://pyromagi.eu/pic/bbbrelay.jpg Jan 16 00:41:30 http://www.bluepcb.net/products/16_Relay_card/html/img/relay_general_v1_16ch_2_big.jpg Jan 16 00:41:40 i think i can get a real schematics. Jan 16 00:41:46 dont know what you can make out of that image Jan 16 00:42:04 heres the relay im using http://www.ebay.com/itm/12V-General-purpose-16-channel-relay-card-board-OMRON-relays-/271121318477?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item3f2017024d Jan 16 00:44:17 I have made my own overlays that set the pins to gpio mode and output low Jan 16 00:44:34 but the system never comes to that state (loading the overlays) Jan 16 00:45:01 and if your confused about the relays, iäm stacking them 2 and 2 Jan 16 00:46:40 I have had the system online and working with both overlays before, just not all of the gpio pins connected. So I'm thinking that it might be becouse of some pins on the p9 header. Jan 16 00:47:21 hmm Jan 16 00:47:54 thats quite a beast ya got there! Jan 16 00:48:10 I'ts just for fun though :D Jan 16 00:48:25 64 channels Jan 16 00:48:30 that's the goal anyway Jan 16 00:50:51 veremit the gpio pins dont mind if there's a pin conected right? as long as it's just a plain cable, without current or load. Jan 16 00:51:06 i mean there no difference if i pull the cables out Jan 16 00:52:05 they don't source/sink much current .. but there should be no difference whether there is anythign connected or not, No Jan 16 00:54:46 i get both link (yellow) and traffic (blinking green) on the ethernet port. Jan 16 00:55:05 and if i press and hold boot the board shuts off. Jan 16 00:58:03 hmm even searching fo rsimilar relay boards its not too easy to see how you've got it wired up. Jan 16 00:58:24 sounds like ethernet is up .. can you SSH to the board? Jan 16 00:58:54 no i cant Jan 16 00:59:02 no video from hdmi either Jan 16 00:59:13 well .. the ethernet can't be 'up' then lol Jan 16 00:59:38 I'd connect a serial debug lead to the header on th eboard, and see whats coming out (if anything) Jan 16 01:00:17 these things can be troublesome to debug if there doesn't appear to be anything happening .. you need to monitor any-/every-thing you can :) Jan 16 01:01:00 i have 12v from battery on COM port, and then i have some wires on NO to some connections elsewere. Jan 16 01:01:29 so the only connection the BBB has to the relaycards is the gpio pins to the on/off pins Jan 16 01:01:33 I hope thats the Common relay terminal ....... Jan 16 01:01:39 yea Jan 16 01:01:39 :D Jan 16 01:01:48 right .. so you should have GPIO and 3V3/GND Jan 16 01:01:53 yes Jan 16 01:02:43 hmm .. problem is.. if any stray voltage appears on the p8/p9 headers .. it seems to kill the board :\ I've toasted one ... but two still working :D Jan 16 01:02:48 when setting a gpio to output high which gives 3V3 to the relaycards pin, then the relay closes. Jan 16 01:03:09 right .. well that part definitely works .. assuming the beagle is alive. Jan 16 01:03:19 I have measured each and every pin on the relays they don't have any current Jan 16 01:03:26 yea Jan 16 01:03:41 the relays should be driven by those transistor arrays (the IC on the board) Jan 16 01:03:58 when i start the BBB some relays closes since BBB when booting has 3V3 on some gpios Jan 16 01:03:59 so there really should be insignificant load on the micro .. and enough drive for the relay Jan 16 01:04:11 yes .. it will do whatever until it settles down Jan 16 01:04:15 yea Jan 16 01:04:20 and thats fine Jan 16 01:04:26 thats ok by my design :D Jan 16 01:04:30 you need to contrive an 'enable' system :p Jan 16 01:04:39 and when the overlays loads i get what i whant Jan 16 01:05:29 i would have expect that the BBB would boot everytime until the overlays are loaded.. THEN i would have expected a possible problem :D Jan 16 01:05:36 so just gotta figure what you done with the beagle :p Jan 16 01:05:53 besides 'broken' it :p Jan 16 01:06:36 the only thin i have done with the beagle is that i've inserted a mSD card with ubuntu flashed, formatted the eMMC since i don't plan on using that and need the gpio pins. Jan 16 01:06:55 ah the emmc is shared with gpios .. Jan 16 01:06:56 i have alsu modified the uEnv.txt on the boot partition on the mSD card. Jan 16 01:07:04 But all that worked fine last time i had it powered on Jan 16 01:07:21 the only thing i have added is the cables to the P9 header Jan 16 01:07:43 I'd take the beagle in isolation .. if it doesn't do anything .. check with the debug header Jan 16 01:08:11 then add bits back stage by stage .. Jan 16 01:08:12 yea i know, but thats the last thing i'd like to do now :D Jan 16 01:08:26 might be a stray wire or wrong pin .. or something silly .. almost always is. Jan 16 01:08:39 but having toastedone board .. I -know- they're picky! Jan 16 01:08:56 you might have (quite accidentally) done the same Jan 16 01:09:08 perhaps Jan 16 01:09:12 I still don't know what caused the failure on ours .. its going for RMA Jan 16 01:09:17 ohh well, i guees i have to do it the hard way then Jan 16 01:09:32 there are no shortcuts I'm afraid :) unless the uSD is not seated :P Jan 16 01:09:43 It is :D Jan 16 01:09:47 or you're not holding the boot button down when you boot if you're fried the eMMC :p Jan 16 01:09:55 either way the user leds should have lit Jan 16 01:10:10 ideally yes .. but if there's nothing to tell them to .......... Jan 16 01:10:14 i have tried booting while pressing the boot button aswell Jan 16 01:10:34 these aren't industrial boards y'know ;) Jan 16 01:10:39 i know Jan 16 01:10:39 even the arduino is hardier Jan 16 01:10:44 hmm something just clicked Jan 16 01:11:15 stray voltage I suspect Jan 16 01:18:39 hmm gotta look into this more tomorrow. Jan 16 01:18:47 Thanks for the chat veremit Jan 16 01:19:03 welcome good luck **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jan 16 02:59:59 2014