**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jan 17 02:59:58 2014 Jan 17 03:47:42 hi..I have a question..can someone tell me how does the processor communicate with the ethernet chip on beaglebone black? Jan 17 03:52:49 Prasanna: the AM335x has two on board MAC s Jan 17 03:52:59 Prasanna: one of which is connected to a 10/100 ethernet phy Jan 17 03:54:31 @prpplague...thank you Jan 17 03:55:35 if i have an another ethernet chip in the board...can i connect the other MAC to the new ethernet chip?? wil it work?? Jan 17 03:56:37 Prasanna: the second MAC does not have all of the signals available on the expansion header Jan 17 03:56:45 Prasanna: so no, you can;t use the second mac Jan 17 03:56:52 Prasanna: however you can use other means Jan 17 03:56:59 Prasanna: such as via usb, or via spi Jan 17 04:00:25 how can i communicate with processor and ethernet chip via spi? Jan 17 04:01:08 and suppose i have laid out two ethernet chip on my beagle board...how can i communicate with each of them? Jan 17 04:02:21 Prasanna: once the drivers are setup each ethernet interface will show up as an individual interface for networking Jan 17 04:02:43 Prasanna: http://www.microchip.com/wwwproducts/Devices.aspx?dDocName=en022889 Jan 17 04:02:53 Prasanna: the enc28j60 is fully support in the linux kernel Jan 17 04:12:06 hi...can someone tell me where i can find the source code for the arm processor for beaglebone black? Jan 17 04:12:32 Guest1501: which source code do you want Jan 17 04:13:18 the basic architecture..like how does it communicate with other components in the board Jan 17 04:14:43 Guest1501: well.... Jan 17 04:15:06 Guest1501: maybe start with the linux kernel? Jan 17 04:15:53 hi, i am running angstrom-v2012.12 on the BBB and cannot find the bash interpreter shell. how do I run a bash script without changing it fully. the only shell i see is /bin/sh that points to busybox Jan 17 04:16:12 will i be able to view the source code for the components in linux? Jan 17 04:17:42 yes Jan 17 04:17:52 nevermind, i installed the bash opkg and got it ! Jan 17 04:39:02 Hello? Jan 17 04:39:06 Anybody Home? Jan 17 04:40:51 no Jan 17 04:40:59 we left about an hour ago Jan 17 04:41:36 please don't eat our porridge Jan 17 05:37:27 hi..i am wondering if we can add another ethernet chip to beaglebone black. If it is possible, how can i communicate with each ethernet chip? How would each of them communicate with the processor? Jan 17 05:41:58 newbie101: http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/DeviceDoc/39662a.pdf don't expect too much performance though Jan 17 05:43:15 wait a min :D Jan 17 05:43:20 just get a usb one Jan 17 05:43:26 and expect performance afterwards :D Jan 17 08:31:09 i was wondering if anyone could tell me what i am doing wrong Jan 17 08:31:09 http://hipstercircuits.com/serial-over-usb-on-beaglebone/ Jan 17 08:31:09 following this guide Jan 17 08:31:51 how would one load g_serial on bbb ?? Jan 17 08:32:21 anujdeshpande modprobe g_serial? Jan 17 08:32:42 because its a linux standard? Jan 17 08:32:46 no such device Jan 17 08:32:57 thats what i thought Jan 17 08:33:30 should i be able see /dev/ttyGS0 ?? Jan 17 08:33:35 btw. its all in the article Jan 17 08:34:04 i saw the comments and all Jan 17 08:34:22 * anujdeshpande wonders .. Jan 17 08:34:33 first check if it is compiled in Jan 17 08:34:43 in the kernel Jan 17 08:35:16 how woould one do tht ?/ Jan 17 08:35:24 *sigh* Jan 17 08:35:36 time to learn how the linux kernel works and can be build Jan 17 08:35:41 * anujdeshpande feels like a n00b Jan 17 08:35:48 than you can come back Jan 17 08:35:57 then* Jan 17 08:36:04 * anujdeshpande has been in userspace for too long Jan 17 08:36:42 somesomething I always forget whats right Jan 17 08:37:16 need some "eselsbrücke" again Jan 17 08:37:56 hm ah Jan 17 08:38:20 than for comparsion Jan 17 08:38:31 bigger than smaller Jan 17 08:41:10 hi tasslehoff Jan 17 08:41:45 hi woglinde Jan 17 08:44:02 woglinde: followed the guide again, worked just fine. thanks ! Jan 17 08:46:03 lol Jan 17 08:46:15 :/ Jan 17 08:46:34 then have fun Jan 17 08:46:36 suggested reading on this ?? Jan 17 08:46:42 ? Jan 17 08:46:50 I think it is working? Jan 17 08:47:12 yepp. but i just followed instructions Jan 17 08:47:59 hm Jan 17 08:48:10 begin with compiling a kernel yourself Jan 17 08:48:28 hmm.. sounds good Jan 17 08:55:42 moin moin Jan 17 08:56:12 hi koth Jan 17 08:56:32 hoi woglinde Jan 17 08:56:43 woglinde: have you decided on the chocolate you want? :) Jan 17 09:02:34 what would be the right way to customize a beaglbone angstrom installtion? Jan 17 09:02:55 ideally, so that it can be reproduced ... i'm thinking something like chef ... or similar Jan 17 09:04:15 ams: angstrom is basicall a collection of oelayer+buildscripts. Jan 17 09:04:33 ams: so just add your specific layer including the customized target. done. Jan 17 09:06:11 mm.... Jan 17 09:07:31 thanks, i think .. not sure i understand how to do that, but i'll look into it :-) Jan 17 09:07:32 ams: alternatively you can do a similar thing using poky, taking out the global angstrom package feed and nailing itdown a bit more. but the basic process stays the same. Jan 17 09:17:37 is there any simple way of running a beaglbone in qemu or some such? doing a port of the steele bank common lisp compiler to arm/bbb, but don't have access to the card right now... Jan 17 09:18:54 ams: emulating ARM in qemu is not much of a problem. emulating the beaglebone specifically, e.g. the peripherals is. Jan 17 09:19:56 arm would be good enough for now, at least the bulk work Jan 17 09:19:59 you dont need to emulate the BBB to port lisp Jan 17 09:20:08 av500: agreed. Jan 17 09:20:41 ams: well then why not just grab poky from the yocto project? you get the base infrastructure+qemu to test all in one. Jan 17 09:20:56 depends on what you mean, to port the compiler and assembler, nope, but if you want to write libraries that do bbb stuff, ... different story. Jan 17 09:21:00 LetoThe2nd: thanks Jan 17 09:21:07 i liked that angstrom page which used to generate custom builds. not sure if its still live. Jan 17 09:21:42 hitlin37: "that xyz webpage" does not count as "reproductible" by any means :) Jan 17 09:23:14 ams: i actually am working on a way for streamlining the reproduction of poky builds, but its nowhere near leaving my desktop yet. Jan 17 09:23:56 it use to work fine with generating custom final image in 10-15 min.i guess that page does not exists anymore Jan 17 09:24:16 yes i think narcissus is defunct by now. Jan 17 09:24:17 LetoThe2nd: mm... Jan 17 09:25:09 ams: but theres actually no magic involved. if you want to "port" something you should be able to read docs anyways, and the "getting started" docs on the yocto project page are very good. Jan 17 09:26:03 ams:also qemu emulating any arm distro would work for your needs. Jan 17 09:26:32 hitlin37: like i said, when going the poky way you get the qemu bootstrapping basically for free. Jan 17 09:26:44 hmm Jan 17 09:31:45 thanks for the help! Jan 17 10:35:53 Can some one please help me to change the I2C bus speed to 400KHZ in BBB ? Jan 17 10:36:15 By default it is giving 100 KHz Jan 17 10:42:59 Hellloooooo..............no one here....... Jan 17 10:45:42 look at the nick list, plently of people online Jan 17 10:45:59 irc has a feature called idling, ever heard of that? Jan 17 10:46:11 nope Jan 17 10:46:12 means lots of people leave their clients open 24/7 without being there Jan 17 10:46:18 so it takes some times for them to respond Jan 17 10:46:23 so patience is what you need here Jan 17 10:46:24 asdfg: why are you asking me in PM? Jan 17 10:46:30 :-( Jan 17 10:47:10 nobody sits here waiting to answer your questions Jan 17 10:47:45 av500...so how about changing the i2c speed ... Jan 17 10:49:15 to be honest, I dont know Jan 17 10:49:48 av500.... Jan 17 10:49:52 :-( Jan 17 10:50:09 I would guess either in sysfs or by a modified device tree file Jan 17 10:50:23 or just use magicTM Jan 17 10:50:33 i modified device tree ..but not changing Jan 17 10:50:46 the i2c speed Jan 17 10:50:47 get your favorite white or black magic book and cast a spell on the BBB Jan 17 10:51:32 http://hipstercircuits.com/category/device-tree/ Jan 17 10:52:02 can't you change that with kernel commandline? Jan 17 10:52:24 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/beagleboard/vbuM-4oShS8 Jan 17 10:52:29 there, already answered Jan 17 10:53:03 I tried that ...but is not changing guys... Jan 17 10:54:39 what is in dmesg? Jan 17 10:54:46 how are you checking the speed? Jan 17 10:54:52 in CRO Jan 17 10:55:01 and did you re-compile the dtbo? Jan 17 10:55:01 if you tried all that, why didnt you say so? Jan 17 10:55:03 its is showing 100Khz Jan 17 10:55:15 sorry for that Jan 17 10:55:18 av500 Jan 17 10:55:26 why do we have to pull information out of your nose? Jan 17 10:55:36 and waste our time Jan 17 10:55:42 pastebin your dmesg Jan 17 10:56:17 bone-capemgr bone_capemgr.8: part_number 'BB-I2C1', version 'N/A' [ 87.850814] bone-capemgr bone_capemgr.8: slot #8: generic override [ 87.850833] bone-capemgr bone_capemgr.8: bone: Using override eeprom data at slot 8 [ 87.850851] bone-capemgr bone_capemgr.8: slot #8: 'Override Board Name,00A0,Override Manuf,BB-I2C1' [ 87.850958] bone-capemgr bone_capemgr.8: slot #8: Requesting part number/version based 'BB-I2C1-00A0.dtbo [ 87 Jan 17 10:56:27 ynezz.. Jan 17 10:56:43 pastebi Jan 17 10:56:45 pastebin Jan 17 10:56:47 not paste Jan 17 10:57:09 and complete dmesg Jan 17 10:57:44 such paste Jan 17 10:57:48 very words Jan 17 10:57:56 wow Jan 17 11:00:59 http://pastebin.com/Jp1dQSXZ Jan 17 11:01:14 [ 0.153450] omap_i2c 44e0b000.i2c: bus 0 rev0.11 at 400 kHz Jan 17 11:01:18 ynezz.. Jan 17 11:01:21 [ 0.166818] omap_i2c 4819c000.i2c: bus 1 rev0.11 at 100 kHz Jan 17 11:01:47 [ 87.859870] omap_i2c 4802a000.i2c: bus 2 rev0.11 at 100 kHz Jan 17 11:02:01 Bus 0 not accessible on headers Jan 17 11:02:13 * somesomething eats asdfg Jan 17 11:02:17 I want bus 1 and bus 2 Jan 17 11:02:26 i guess it would be helpful for newbie if there is a way in irc client which shows related google search results for the basic stuff asked. Jan 17 11:02:46 pastebin your device tree Jan 17 11:02:59 also pastebin the device tree dump from the running system Jan 17 11:05:02 av500 http://pastebin.com/vh5TqsTi Jan 17 11:07:33 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/beagleboard/vbuM-4oShS8/Yg-phLqNsy4J Jan 17 11:08:33 you read that, right? Jan 17 11:09:16 av500..I read that i done exactly they said.. Jan 17 11:09:38 ok Jan 17 11:10:03 so, dump the dt file from the running kernel Jan 17 11:13:32 av500 http://pastebin.com/HheKcn5r Jan 17 11:13:51 where i changed in am335x-boneblack.dts Jan 17 11:14:33 you can dump the DT of the running kernel Jan 17 11:14:47 so you see what the kernel uses as device tree Jan 17 11:15:07 wow, something like this already exists : http://oreilly.com/pub/h/2728 Jan 17 11:16:30 av500 .. can you just give the command to dump it Jan 17 11:16:40 dt Jan 17 11:17:44 /proc/device-tree Jan 17 12:55:14 hello. I have created my own device tree file to enable output to my custom LCD screen, which works great, but i have two minor problems/questions: 1. since i enabled my selfmade dtbo file with capemgr.disable_partno=BB-BONELT-HDMI,BB-BONELT-HDMIN capemgr.enable_partno=LCD-G104 the beaglebone black is waiting for exactly 60 seconds at boot. My dmesg states "capemgr: failed to load firmware: LCD-G104-00A0.dtbo" but then again, it IS workt Jan 17 12:55:22 the LCD, so I don't know what's wrong here. second question: as you can see above, I tried to disable the HDMI dtbo files so they don't interfere with mine, but when I cat the slots file, I see that they are still somehow in there: [...] 5: ff:P-O-- Bone-Black-HDMI,00A0,Texas Instrument,BB-BONELT-HDMI 6: ff:P-O-- Bone-Black-HDMIN,00A0,Texas Instrument,BB-BONELT-HDMIN 7: ff:P-O-L Override Board Name,00A0,Override Manuf,LCD-G104 This is Jan 17 12:55:29 because it is actually working, but it may have to do with my first question so I thought Ill let you know Jan 17 13:08:35 anyone have links to info on how to use mcasp to output i2s audio to a codec? Jan 17 13:13:23 theres bits and pieces on net about it, but I need step by step.. kinda simple that way :/ Jan 17 13:13:51 dogrocket: do you have an audio cape? Jan 17 13:14:19 nope its a separate codec board Jan 17 13:15:11 it has a 48khz clock output and supposedly you can get the bbb to sync on it, so you can transfer audio to codec Jan 17 13:15:49 ah, well you're on your own I'm afraid if it's a custom board; it will be a matter of setting up the device tree to recognise your codec and integrate it with the i2s subsystem Jan 17 13:15:58 is the codec supported by linux? Jan 17 13:16:10 mcasp0_aclkx pin, but no clue how to get it to slave Jan 17 13:17:33 not that i know of... supposedly its not too complicated, linux doesnt need to know codec specifics, it just needs to know to send i2s.. but ive been wrong lol Jan 17 13:18:21 that's possible, if it's just a "dumb" codec which will happily accept i2s Jan 17 13:18:35 I woudl look at the audio cape dtbo Jan 17 13:18:45 and see if you can hack something from that into a workable solution Jan 17 13:19:08 that might be a good idea, does audio cape use i2s? Jan 17 13:19:17 err mcasp Jan 17 13:19:20 it might just be a matter of enabling the i2s bus and then pushing stuff to it Jan 17 13:19:24 yeah mcasp Jan 17 13:19:39 awesome.. that might be big help Jan 17 13:20:58 will get all the schematics and reference docs for it... see if i can dig out info i need Jan 17 13:22:11 report back, doing dumb i2s is on my todo list too Jan 17 13:26:56 lol... ok Jan 17 13:28:51 the dac has usb but im getting stuttering when accessing usb cdrom drive.. off same hub i even tried to turn up process priority, so i figured i would try mcasp/i2s see if that clears it up Jan 17 13:30:46 me thinking because the dac usb is 1.1 or slow mode, and cdrom is 2.0 might have something to do with it Jan 17 13:31:33 yes Jan 17 13:31:42 USB does not garantee min data rates Jan 17 13:31:49 there is ISO mode, but nobody gets that right Jan 17 13:32:06 dunno if MUSB even supports it correctly Jan 17 13:32:19 so its best effort and often timing critical clients lose Jan 17 13:32:20 heh, wouldnt it figure its a TI codec too.. Jan 17 13:32:35 on a PC, you just move it to a separate host port Jan 17 13:32:54 I dont think it matter if TI or not Jan 17 13:33:46 yeah, i even contemplated using the serial fttp usb port, but being its a client it would be heck to get it too work Jan 17 13:34:06 oops ftti or whatever it is Jan 17 13:35:52 ftdi Jan 17 13:35:56 that wont work Jan 17 13:36:02 it gives you client Jan 17 13:36:03 not host Jan 17 13:37:55 ok.. solves that Jan 17 13:38:31 so please proceed with dumb I2S :) Jan 17 13:43:22 Is there a way to change GPIO pins on the fly? Or does it require a restart each time Jan 17 13:44:18 lol.. im looking it up Jan 17 13:48:43 jjc: you can do it with devicetree overlays Jan 17 13:49:06 if you mean changing the pinmuxing of a gpio pin that is Jan 17 13:49:34 jackmitchell: that will allow me to change a single pin high or low without the need of a reeboot? or without messing up all the other pins? Jan 17 13:50:05 jjc: if you only wish to change the value of the pin, then you can do that through sysfs Jan 17 13:50:35 how would I do that? I am not familiar with sysfs Jan 17 13:50:51 millions of guides on google Jan 17 13:50:58 ok, ill have a look Jan 17 13:51:14 "beaglebone change gpio value sysfs" should get you some decent results Jan 17 13:51:43 or use bonescript via a python lib in the cloub like normal people Jan 17 13:51:47 cloud* Jan 17 13:53:08 @Av500: i'm afraid I can't do that due to the nature of the end use of the beagle Jan 17 13:55:14 wow... the audio cape uses the biggest .asound configuration file ive ever seen. Jan 17 13:55:20 jjc: are you trying to do it in a programming language, or in a script or by hand? Jan 17 13:55:29 dogrocket: I don't think you need it Jan 17 13:55:52 I've been working with a client on the audio cape for the past few weeks and we've never needed the asound config Jan 17 13:56:01 was thinking not.. all i need is volume control Jan 17 13:57:43 jackmitchell: either in python or using a script Jan 17 13:57:52 dogrocket: url? Jan 17 13:58:59 here we goo... Each data frame is Jan 17 13:58:59 synchronized by the transmit frame sync signal (AUD_FSX) from the McASP. T Jan 17 13:59:14 yes Jan 17 14:00:47 jjc: sysfs is a good choice then, as I say loads of guides on google Jan 17 14:02:41 Each data frame is Jan 17 14:02:41 the bummer is they are doing inverse with frequency clock, the codec is using the beagles freq clock and i want beagle to use the codecs clock because what ive read is you dont want to use the 12mhz clock because its not high enough for low jitter. The codec supplys a more reliable clock Jan 17 14:03:54 but msacp should support ext clock too Jan 17 14:04:00 fiddle with the DT Jan 17 14:04:28 yes it does... thats where im having problems.. how to turn it on. Jan 17 14:04:36 https://github.com/CircuitCo/BeagleBone-Audio/blob/master/BeagleBone-Audio-RevA1-srm.pdf?raw=true Jan 17 14:04:54 thats the pdf file link for audio cape Jan 17 14:06:56 dogrocket: you may need to dig into the davinci-mcasp driver to see if it's possible to set an external clock Jan 17 14:08:17 if that link doesnt work heres the audio cape main page... look for system reference manual down at bottom of page Jan 17 14:08:22 http://beagleboardtoys.info/index.php?title=BeagleBone_Audio Jan 17 14:10:01 I've read it is possible to set, but something about it wasnt working from linux for some reason Jan 17 14:10:10 err linux command at least Jan 17 14:11:03 probably someone trying to use a command that worked before dtb was used Jan 17 14:12:38 also I heard you have to disable hdmi to use i2s because its tied to it Jan 17 14:13:07 dogrocket: yes, hdmi needs to be disabled on beaglebone blacks Jan 17 14:18:33 found step by step for disabling hdmi if anyone needs Jan 17 14:18:51 http://www.logicsupply.com/blog/2013/07/18/disabling-the-beaglebone-black-hdmi-cape/ Jan 17 14:19:00 how many steps? Jan 17 14:19:07 is there a break in the middle? Jan 17 14:19:44 this for short version... Jan 17 14:19:48 optargs=quiet capemgr.disable_partno=BB-BONELT-HDMI,BB-BONELT-HDMIN Jan 17 14:19:59 put that in uEnv.txt Jan 17 14:20:28 * av500 reads that as disable_panto Jan 17 14:20:59 disable_partno lol Jan 17 14:23:14 no video tutorial? Jan 17 14:23:48 ynezz: can you explain me how to use a video tutorial? Jan 17 14:23:57 would be nice... Jan 17 14:25:16 looks like mcasp / i2c needs these pins on beagle 37 thru 41 Jan 17 14:25:38 av500: 1. Popcorn Jan 17 14:25:46 other steps are boring Jan 17 14:26:52 whiskey after trying to figure this out.. Jan 17 14:31:33 av500, cool, I'll apply for a disability stipend Jan 17 14:31:44 :) Jan 17 14:36:19 av500 here is something on setting up i2s... it looks pretty ugly but this guy evidently got dummy send and more to work. Jan 17 14:36:28 http://e2e.ti.com/support/embedded/linux/f/354/t/185810.aspx Jan 17 14:37:04 like jack said gotta set up davinci-mcasp.c Jan 17 15:42:00 av500 you still there? Jan 17 15:42:55 av500 you still there? Jan 17 15:43:31 av500 you still there? Jan 17 15:44:55 hello Jan 17 15:45:06 yes Jan 17 15:45:28 sorry for spam... my screen wasnt scrollin, duh Jan 17 15:47:46 if you want to look at this for i2s to codec see if you can get the idea they are talking about in this forum, what im getting from it is you dont have to do anything except disable hdmi and hook up pins and i2s will work if device on other end understands the i2s mcasp speak Jan 17 15:49:22 you can load the audio cape DT overlay Jan 17 15:49:35 but that does not use master clock as input Jan 17 15:49:41 so you need to tweak it Jan 17 15:49:46 http://www.element14.com/community/community/knode/single-board_computers/next-gen_beaglebone/blog/2013/05/28/bbb--audio-notes Jan 17 15:50:27 odd but what they are saying you dont even need to do that... hdmi is implemented as a virtual cape ! Jan 17 15:51:02 if your codec can work with the I2S that BBB provides, you only need to hook it up Jan 17 15:54:54 yep.. check out the link where he hand builds a dac near top of page Jan 17 15:55:44 here this guy says.. I figure it out, you didnt write any driver or kernel code to get the i2s works on your BBB? Jan 17 15:55:44 You just connect the pin and use the originally HDMI driver is that correct? Jan 17 15:56:35 dac creator says... That's correct, it is using the existing driver for HDMI. Jan 17 15:57:11 said he fell upon it by accident.. lol Jan 17 15:59:34 um wait.. he didnt say he needed to disable hdmi, i2s daisy chains doesnt it? maybe he just hooked it up? Jan 17 16:01:11 im not able to view get one ssh option Jan 17 16:01:26 i just flashed my BBB Jan 17 16:01:37 please help Jan 17 16:01:45 i want to implement basic UART Jan 17 16:03:36 gateone^ Jan 17 16:04:39 what did you flash your bbb to kernel/distro? Jan 17 16:05:18 angstrom dist Jan 17 16:05:23 sorry m a newbie Jan 17 16:05:39 so you cant get gateone to come up? Jan 17 16:05:47 yea Jan 17 16:05:55 i can ssh through terminal Jan 17 16:06:30 hrm.. sounds like node.js is not either up or not seeing port Jan 17 16:07:17 not sure how you check node.js stats Jan 17 16:07:54 can u tell me how to gateone Jan 17 16:07:55 can you get to beaglebone website at 192.168.1.7? Jan 17 16:08:19 yea i have beagle bone black so i guess its 192.168.7.2 Jan 17 16:08:26 n its working Jan 17 16:09:12 try clicking on one of the led tests in website... that uses node.js I think gateone is a node.js app also Jan 17 16:09:53 sorry wrong ip.. your right Jan 17 16:11:23 okay ill try that wait Jan 17 16:11:36 if the led test works gateone should work im guessing Jan 17 16:11:44 yup thats working Jan 17 16:12:27 and when u click on gateone its not? Jan 17 16:13:33 thats the thing there is no option of gateone in the beagle bone website under cloud9 Jan 17 16:13:52 it just shows update image n then cloud 9 Jan 17 16:13:57 no gate one ssh Jan 17 16:14:16 click on cloud9 that starts gateone i think Jan 17 16:15:23 i did that also , i even ran a blinked program from there Jan 17 16:15:26 didn't help Jan 17 16:16:05 blinked program worked though? thats wierd.. like its missing a file or something Jan 17 16:16:33 do you have which file Jan 17 16:16:34 > Jan 17 16:16:40 yup it worked Jan 17 16:17:05 might try clearing browser cache and restart browser just to try and see if it fixes... I think i had to do that once Jan 17 16:17:25 alryt ill do that Jan 17 16:17:55 cloud9 kinda touchy Jan 17 16:18:22 gateone/cloud9 rather Jan 17 16:19:10 i cleared by browser data didn't work Jan 17 16:19:26 i can't implement hart in any other way ?> Jan 17 16:19:33 UART^ Jan 17 16:20:27 you ssh in and use nodejs manually, have it load a file Jan 17 16:20:45 anilp: old Gate One was too buggy. New version may fix issues. Jan 17 16:21:25 @jkrinder : i just updated my os n m all these problems Jan 17 16:21:25 actually type node (filename) and it should run it to console Jan 17 16:21:54 @dogrocket : what exactly should i do ? Jan 17 16:22:02 ssh into beagle bone n then ? Jan 17 16:22:15 you allready have the code in a file? Jan 17 16:22:34 ahhh no not really Jan 17 16:22:53 the tutorial which i was referring said i need gateone Jan 17 16:23:04 adafruit tutorial Jan 17 16:23:04 yep... ssh in edit a file with script you want, then execute node filename Jan 17 16:23:32 just copy it and paste it into nano Jan 17 16:23:46 use nano its pretty good editor Jan 17 16:24:00 how do install nano ? Jan 17 16:24:23 nano should be in angstrom i think Jan 17 16:24:32 ssh in and type nano Jan 17 16:25:16 yea got it Jan 17 16:25:22 war should i do now Jan 17 16:25:25 wat ? Jan 17 16:25:41 type in the script ? Jan 17 16:25:52 now just copy the script if you have it, then right click and paste into nano Jan 17 16:27:18 then use cntrl o it will ask for filename, then when all done ctrl x Jan 17 16:27:44 okay thanx a lot was searching for that only Jan 17 16:28:22 cool.. then just type node filename should run and give message to console Jan 17 16:31:06 real linux programmers use the command line anyway... haha Jan 17 16:31:39 sorry, but how do u install python lib on BBB Jan 17 16:31:40 ? Jan 17 16:32:11 i thought gate one was the only way Jan 17 16:32:12 :P Jan 17 16:33:13 oh its already there Jan 17 16:34:04 Hi there, I have an issue with flashing my BBB (BeagleBone Black). I created an image of the SD card as instructed, but the system is not booting. Can you please tell me what is the problem and how can I solve it? Jan 17 16:34:34 hold the boot button when you power on Jan 17 16:34:47 hello to all Jan 17 16:35:31 can anyone help me? Jan 17 16:35:40 depends Jan 17 16:35:53 it would help if you asked a non-meta question Jan 17 16:36:06 <@av500> I did hold down the boot button, but only 2 leds are on (not all 4 of them) Jan 17 16:36:09 the my beaglebone black is off and will not turn over Jan 17 16:36:53 The power LED does not light up when I connect the power / usb Jan 17 16:38:05 using a pc armando? Jan 17 16:38:12 yes Jan 17 16:38:30 sounds like you might have lost control of usb port. reboot Jan 17 16:38:54 PC and power cord 5v 1A Jan 17 16:39:15 hrm... not good Jan 17 16:39:31 I have already rebooted, from linux to windows, the problem remains Jan 17 16:39:59 it might be dead Jan 17 16:40:00 dont know about that one..., anyone else have ideas Jan 17 16:40:05 broken Jan 17 16:40:50 the last few commands given were "pacman-S linux-am33x-legacy" and "poweroff" Jan 17 16:41:03 wait.. did u power off pc? Jan 17 16:41:14 broken? Jan 17 16:41:35 oh.. thats right said you had power Jan 17 16:41:52 [17:36] The power LED does not light up when I connect the power / usb Jan 17 16:42:42 no.. Jan 17 16:43:01 the power led remains down Jan 17 16:43:02 how do i update time on my BBB through terminal..? Jan 17 16:43:08 sorry for my english Jan 17 16:43:44 i would at least try and unplug everything from bbb and leave it alone for few minutes and try again Jan 17 16:43:59 anilp: using the 'date' command? Jan 17 16:44:35 tbr: n then ... Jan 17 16:44:43 konrad_1415: check your sd card Jan 17 16:44:48 can you read the boot partition? Jan 17 16:45:54 do not access the boot partition Jan 17 16:47:29 @av500: I did check the SD card. Can you please explain what do you mean by "read the boot partition?" Jan 17 16:47:42 from your linux/windows pc Jan 17 16:47:45 can you see the files? Jan 17 16:47:47 MLO Jan 17 16:47:49 uboot Jan 17 16:47:50 zimage Jan 17 16:47:53 or uimage Jan 17 16:48:07 yes, I see all files. Jan 17 16:48:15 ok Jan 17 16:48:16 Hi every one how to change zimage to uImage Jan 17 16:49:02 To be more specific, I see the following: MLO, u-boot and uEnv Jan 17 16:49:07 then it is broken? Jan 17 16:49:30 Armando: if no LED goes on at all, yes, something is broken Jan 17 16:49:41 either your USB or power cable or the BBB itself Jan 17 16:49:57 just plug in usb and see if it comes up.. Jan 17 16:50:34 ok thank you Jan 17 16:51:15 armando you have 5v dc adapter with right plug, might try that Jan 17 16:52:25 im not able to update opkg Jan 17 16:52:42 its says Failed to download http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/v2012.12/ipk/eglibc/armv7a-vfp-neon/base/Packages.gz, wget returned 1. Jan 17 16:52:45 i have a 5v dc adapter, but i no understad the right plug, i'm italian Jan 17 16:53:12 if it will connect to beaglebone try it Jan 17 16:53:24 5v -> bbb Jan 17 16:53:39 <@av500> is it possible that BBB got damaged due to intermission during installation? Jan 17 16:53:56 unlikely Jan 17 16:54:00 anilp try ping www.yahoo.com Jan 17 16:54:00 its not easy to damage it Jan 17 16:54:06 people try really hard Jan 17 16:54:13 one guy used a hammer Jan 17 16:54:17 huh? Jan 17 16:54:31 he was unhappy and smashed it to bits Jan 17 16:54:34 and bytes Jan 17 16:54:36 i just clicked on ur name .. Jan 17 16:54:54 pls help though Jan 17 16:55:02 anil try to see if you can get to internet on beagle ping yahoo Jan 17 16:55:15 ohh Jan 17 16:55:16 okay Jan 17 16:55:17 :P Jan 17 16:55:19 sorry Jan 17 16:55:21 dogrocket yes, i have the adapter but the power led in down Jan 17 16:55:24 hmm...well then, I have no idea why it won't start up... Jan 17 16:55:30 no problem Jan 17 16:55:48 armando sorry man, sounds like beagle is bad Jan 17 16:56:53 ok thank you for your help, so I have to buy it? Jan 17 16:57:26 or take it back.. is it old? warranty still good Jan 17 16:58:00 its says unknown host www.yahoo.com Jan 17 16:58:26 I bought it on ebay Jan 17 16:58:28 anil thats why opkg isnt working, beagle cant get to internet Jan 17 17:00:35 anil you using angstrom? Jan 17 17:00:50 is there any prepared time sync solution included in the default angstrom distribution? Jan 17 17:01:07 Does anyone have any idea why only 2 LED turn on instead of all 4 during the beggining of installation (the first 3 seconds)? After a while all 4 start flashing properly. Jan 17 17:01:13 you mean like date ssl? Jan 17 17:01:14 yea Jan 17 17:01:26 dogrocket yes Jan 17 17:01:30 how get internet working ? Jan 17 17:02:12 anil your gonna have to add gateway and dns to your... cant remember which file Jan 17 17:03:53 *** Does anyone have any idea why only 2 LED turn on instead of all 4 during the beggining of installation (the first 3 seconds)? After a while all 4 start flashing properly.*** Jan 17 17:04:37 hhmm … wat do i do ne idea .? Jan 17 17:04:38 ssl_ theres a program that can get time and date for linux, youll have to download it and maybe compile it.. its called ntp Jan 17 17:04:43 Network Time Protocol Jan 17 17:04:50 i know of ntpdate, but this only works momentarily. i need a solution which syncs the clock like once every hour Jan 17 17:05:10 also, after a cut power supply Jan 17 17:05:22 ntp not capable of that? Jan 17 17:06:07 anilp let me see if i can find network settings file for angstrom Jan 17 17:06:10 i dont know. that ntpdate utility im talking of only does its job after i manually run it Jan 17 17:06:14 konrad_1415: each LED shows activity of a different function, e.g. cpu heartbeat, mmc etc, so they are not all just "turned on" they actually represent something happening Jan 17 17:06:35 ssl oh i think ntp will do more than that Jan 17 17:06:37 ssl_: create a script that runs ntpdate once an hour and on boot Jan 17 17:06:58 ssl_: google will show you how Jan 17 17:07:08 ok thanks Jan 17 17:07:23 okay Jan 17 17:08:36 ssl use cron Jan 17 17:09:57 dogrocket thats what im looking into right now, and there already is a ntp job in there Jan 17 17:10:10 but it seems it needs some configuration before woking Jan 17 17:10:17 *working Jan 17 17:10:45 jackmitchell: OK, I get it. However, I prepared SD card image (debian 7.2), I hold down the boot button, 2 LED came up and after about 15 sec. 4 LED started flashing. I let go of the button and waited about 2 hrs and all 4 LED never stayed on (they were constantly flashing even after 2 hrs). Jan 17 17:11:33 konrad_1415: oh right, so you're talking about the eMMC flashing process, in that case I have never used it so I have no idea, sorry. Jan 17 17:11:44 check the net for configuration and use of ntp Jan 17 17:12:13 jackmitchell, thanks anyway, man. Jan 17 17:12:25 anilp you need to put dns_nameserver 8.8.8.8 in /etc/network/interfaces Jan 17 17:12:32 alryt my internet is working Jan 17 17:12:33 :P Jan 17 17:12:36 thanx Jan 17 17:12:39 lol Jan 17 17:12:40 konrad_1415: I know it can take _hours_ Jan 17 17:13:10 i am able to ping Jan 17 17:13:19 jackmitchell: could it take longer than 2-3 hrs Jan 17 17:13:22 bt still not able to update Jan 17 17:13:22 awesome.. opkg should work Jan 17 17:13:42 konrad_1415: possibly, have you read the wiki page about it, that will probably tell you some mor einformation Jan 17 17:13:42 not Jan 17 17:13:45 Failed to download http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/v2012.12/ipk/eglibc/armv7a-vfp-neon/perl/Packages.gz, wget returned 1. Jan 17 17:14:42 jackmitchell: yeah, I did read wiki and many other articles. Still can't get pass this problem tho. Well, thanks for your help! Much appreciated. Jan 17 17:15:00 konrad_1415: At that point, just sit back for about 45 minutes and watch the flashing LEDs until they all come on solid. Mission accomplished. Jan 17 17:15:39 so apparently it should take about 45 minutes; I would re-download the latest flashing script and try again Jan 17 17:15:48 konrad_1415: http://www.crashcourse.ca/wiki/index.php/BBB_software_update_process Jan 17 17:15:51 anil try opkg list Jan 17 17:16:12 That's the problem - they don't come on solid, they keep flashing even after waiting over 45 min... Jan 17 17:16:44 jackmitchell: That's the problem - they don't come on solid, they keep flashing even after waiting over 45 min... Jan 17 17:17:23 konrad_1415: I would double check everything downloaded correctly, reflash the uSD card and just try again Jan 17 17:20:19 yup it shows a lot of stuff Jan 17 17:21:48 jackmitchell: will have to double check it then. Can you advise of any good source where eMMC devian program can be found? Jan 17 17:27:05 konrad_1415: sorry, I don't know Jan 17 18:27:13 *newb with problem alert* I have a black board that suddenly won't power up. When I plug in 5v, the light blinks, then nothing. Screwed, am I? Jan 17 18:30:39 sgriepentrog, if you use a uHDMI cable try readjusting it, or if you use an external SD card try removing it. Jan 17 18:32:17 I was originally using an HDMI cable with no SD card when it stopped working. Jan 17 18:32:49 I've tried every combination I can think of, including no HDMI, SD with valid boot on it, etc. Blue light next to power jack blinks once briefly, then nothing. Jan 17 18:33:14 Just wanted to get an expert opinion that it's fried before I buy another one. Jan 17 18:33:20 And a case this time. Jan 17 18:34:34 Was hoping for maybe a hit this button to factory reset type scenario to save the day... Jan 17 18:42:45 sgriepentrog: yeah i fried 2 like that Jan 17 18:43:13 very breif blink right? Jan 17 18:43:20 yes, very brief Jan 17 18:43:40 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/beagleboard/l-bap8sB4rw Jan 17 18:43:52 and also blinks the same if I hit power button, but no other lights. Jan 17 18:44:57 probably the PMIC, maybe you can RMA it. IN my case it was my own fault for overvoltage on the input pins Jan 17 18:45:07 so I didn’t Jan 17 18:45:17 pmic? Jan 17 18:46:00 it’s the chip that regulates power, the link above has more detail Jan 17 18:46:26 checking it out thanks Jan 17 19:22:05 does anyone know how to break the BBB? Jan 17 19:22:31 hehe Jan 17 19:22:56 does anyone know how to break the BBB? Jan 17 19:23:08 armando: yes i do Jan 17 19:23:21 armando: plug a 220 mains into the expansion header Jan 17 19:23:29 you can explain it to me? Jan 17 19:23:31 armando: that will certainly break it Jan 17 19:23:40 thanks Jan 17 19:23:54 armando: why are you trying to break a BBB? Jan 17 19:24:17 I presonally like chisels under the bga Jan 17 19:24:22 I had connected the LCD screen of 4dsystems Jan 17 19:25:45 prpplague is broken and I do not understand how Jan 17 19:26:13 armando: if you plug the lcd panel cape in backwards then powered on the board, it would damage the bbb Jan 17 19:28:01 the screen was working with angstrom, then I started arch linux, I gave the command Jan 17 19:28:01 "pacman-S linux-am33x-legacy, then eventually poweroff, and after not working anymore Jan 17 19:28:40 I was working with the usb cable Jan 17 19:28:43 Can anyone help me find information on the power usage of a Beagleboard-xm Jan 17 19:31:38 I'm looking to run the BB-xM with a small screen, but can't seem to find what requirements I'd have for a battery. Jan 17 19:34:29 Hi! (sorry for my bad english) smd know if tps65217 status reg is avaible in sysfs to get AC power status) Jan 17 19:37:22 prpplague when I put the power and hit the pulsed power on the flatscreen lcd, the power LED lights on and off in less than a second Jan 17 19:41:46 ????????????? Jan 17 19:43:57 armando: maybe contact the company you purchased the lcd from for support Jan 17 19:44:16 armando: sounds like you replaced the kernel you were running with some distribution kernel Jan 17 19:44:56 anyone try out the new debian distros? Jan 17 19:46:18 tbr i have installed arch linux on my BBB, pacman -S linux-amx335x-legacy, poweroff, and broken Jan 17 19:46:55 sounds like archlinux alright Jan 17 19:47:10 armando: why did you think, that was a good idea to install a different kernel? Jan 17 19:48:07 for operation of the LCD screen Jan 17 19:48:34 armando: but you said that it worked well _before_ you installed it? Jan 17 19:50:02 angstrom with the LCD screen worked, but it did not work with arch linux Jan 17 19:50:28 armando: then use the kernel, that angstrom uses Jan 17 19:51:23 but I work with arch linux, which is why I wanted to configure the screen Jan 17 20:17:00 Hey guys I'm trying to connect Marvell SDIO wifi chip to mmc3 on BBB, but besides the chip being detected nothing else works - FW download fails. And if I connect the chip to mmc1 everything works fine. What is different between mmc1 and mmc3? Jan 17 20:22:15 what does the TRM say? Jan 17 20:26:45 i believe the TRM says to check with #beagle :P Jan 17 20:26:58 heh Jan 17 20:32:49 I see Jan 17 20:32:55 prehaps you need an updated TRM. Jan 17 20:32:59 read that first. Jan 17 20:33:00 :D Jan 17 20:33:35 jkridner, good to see some activity on bonescript Jan 17 20:49:15 ./quit Jan 17 22:00:35 got a beaglebone white today... very classy and 2012 Jan 17 22:00:51 25 dollars was a good deal Jan 17 22:02:03 anyone with experience kernel code from aosp running in debian? Jan 17 22:02:30 any TI guys here? Jan 17 22:03:11 try the TI forums JarrettV Jan 17 22:03:35 invite only :( Jan 17 22:03:59 guess i could auth nick Jan 17 22:04:19 I've registered on the TI forums, and had replies from TI Jan 17 22:04:27 but I don't imagie they visit IRC Jan 17 22:04:51 what is it you're having problems with? Jan 17 22:05:19 i'm doing a fun project with i2c i2s with a class-d amp Jan 17 22:05:30 heard of nexus Q? Jan 17 22:05:33 oo nice Jan 17 22:05:35 nope Jan 17 22:05:54 it has a nice amp i want to hook into beaglebone Jan 17 22:06:22 although the bbb is a downgrade from it's original soc Jan 17 22:07:19 ah I see Jan 17 22:07:29 I stumbled across Volumio recently Jan 17 22:07:31 another interesting project Jan 17 22:07:58 oh yea, would like to try it on the bbb Jan 17 22:08:02 http://wiki.redmountainmakers.org/index.php?title=Project_Digital_Audio Jan 17 22:08:36 I'm looking at running it on my wandboard :) onboard codec .. no idea how good that one is though Jan 17 22:09:12 external amp or headphones? Jan 17 22:09:27 dunno yet .. not got an audio system figured Jan 17 22:09:43 got a lovely 2x-100w class A-B mate built :) Jan 17 22:10:08 but boss is building 2x 80W class-D Jan 17 22:14:24 nice, would love to build one like that Jan 17 22:15:40 mostly home-designed I understand Jan 17 22:20:17 yea, i like the TI chips wish it was more than a hobby Jan 17 22:20:43 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-gBjbu6eNDr0/Utmq1u0Ax_I/AAAAAAAAQOg/s7bLJvVx6nY/w1165-h874-no/IMG_20140117_161221.jpg Jan 17 22:21:35 luuurvely :) Jan 17 22:21:42 don't laugh at my soldering skills Jan 17 22:22:01 ah I've seen worse Jan 17 22:22:52 damn tiny pads Jan 17 22:23:36 veremit, picture of your loudspeakers? Jan 17 22:23:47 don't have any here at present Jan 17 22:23:55 thats a project I need to start on Jan 17 22:24:38 these are the ones my boss built last year .. http://www.linkwitzlab.com/Pluto/intro.htm Jan 17 22:26:39 wb Jan 17 22:26:45 what designs you been using? Jan 17 22:27:10 for the amp project? Jan 17 22:27:23 speakers .. presume the TI app note governs that chip Jan 17 22:27:52 well, i have speakers I made in 1999 shamrock design Jan 17 22:28:20 they aren't in use at the moment :( Jan 17 22:28:28 always interested in a good moderate-power clean even speaker design :) Jan 17 22:30:03 they have aged well Jan 17 22:30:46 https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-W_yRzv5UmwQ/Utmu27vtW-I/AAAAAAAAQPU/AieXD74FW3Y/w656-h874-no/IMG_20140117_162923.jpg Jan 17 22:30:47 hi veremit. i succeded with the devicetree file, got my lcd working fine. but still, some applications complain about not beeing able to open the display, for instance x11vnc, which i'd really like to use Jan 17 22:31:15 hmm interesting Jan 17 22:31:19 veremit: this rare 1" MDF Jan 17 22:31:45 rare? ah... 18mm is quite thick yes .. Jan 17 22:32:01 needs to be rigid though Jan 17 22:32:11 those look pretty sweet Jan 17 22:32:24 lots of braching, i remember the glue 15 years ago Jan 17 22:32:29 do you have an idea on what I could try to get it working? Jan 17 22:32:31 hehe Jan 17 22:32:53 ssl_... I'da thought if it comes up .. it'd just be an X display which you can connect to Jan 17 22:32:57 its on sockets afaik Jan 17 22:33:26 my brother has a matching pair and center channel + surrounds all shamrock design Jan 17 22:33:44 just lookin up designs Jan 17 22:34:52 http://pansenti.wordpress.com/2013/06/01/powering-a-beaglebone-black-with-a-single-cell-li-ion-or-lipo-battery-yes-it-can-be-done-but-there-are-issues/ Jan 17 22:38:05 is it possible that :0.0 is the wrong display numer? Jan 17 22:38:10 how to find out? Jan 17 22:38:25 ssl_ .. should be standard x11vnc setup really Jan 17 22:39:11 i did export DISPLAY=:0.0 before Jan 17 22:39:21 didn't change anything really Jan 17 22:43:08 well, i have another issue, propably related Jan 17 22:43:47 i added to my uEnv.txt file this: capemgr.disable_partno=BB-BONELT-HDMI,BB-BONELT-HDMIN capemgr.enable_partno=LCD-G104 Jan 17 22:44:11 which apparently works, because i get a picture in the lcd Jan 17 22:44:35 ofc Jan 17 22:44:44 but then, everytime i boot the BBB, it waits for 60 seconds Jan 17 22:45:20 dmesg tells me: Jan 17 22:45:24 [ 61.500442] bone-capemgr bone_capemgr.8: failed to load firmware 'LCD-G104-00A0.dtbo' [ 61.508674] bone-capemgr bone_capemgr.8: loader: retrying slot-7 LCD-G104:00A0 (prio 0) Jan 17 22:45:56 anything wrong with my uEnv.txt line? Jan 17 22:46:14 nope Jan 17 22:46:28 but you don't have a firmware file for your 'cape' Jan 17 22:47:06 sure i do, its /lib/firmware/LCD-G104-00A0.dtbo Jan 17 22:47:44 then somethign is wrong lol Jan 17 22:47:56 http://papermint-designs.com/community/node/331 is a good resource on capes Jan 17 22:48:24 the strange thing is, at the second try, it works Jan 17 22:52:16 i also get a lot of these messages in dmesg: [ 91.534195] [drm:drm_ioctl], pid=242, cmd=0xc01864b1, nr=0xb1, dev 0xe200, auth=1 Jan 17 22:57:23 rcn-ee .. you there? Jan 17 22:57:41 never.. ;) Jan 17 22:57:47 what's up Jan 17 22:57:52 can you stop by #wandboard a sec? Jan 17 22:58:16 sure Jan 17 22:58:20 trying to figure a kernel thingy Jan 17 23:01:56 perhaps its because i have an error in my dts file? Jan 17 23:02:15 quite possibly Jan 17 23:02:24 those pinmuxes should just Work. Jan 17 23:03:00 can you take a look pls? http://pastebin.com/36C65u9X Jan 17 23:04:45 i copied most of it from the LCD4 file Jan 17 23:12:40 sorry ssl .. I haven't got any sources here to compare with Jan 17 23:13:31 too bad, ok Jan 17 23:48:36 is there a good non-usb alternative to getting wifi on the beaglebone(black)? Jan 17 23:49:11 wifi cape? Jan 17 23:49:19 support is a bit hit-and-miss though Jan 17 23:51:51 I see Jan 17 23:53:34 or use a platform with built-in wifi .. :) Jan 17 23:54:11 *cough*wandboard-dual+*cough* :) Jan 17 23:56:19 it looks like there are a number of spi based wifi units, maybe I'll have to try one of those Jan 17 23:56:27 SPI Jan 17 23:56:31 I2C Jan 17 23:56:36 bitbang Jan 17 23:56:38 sdio Jan 17 23:57:50 shit, it looks like i need to type xhost +localhost on the BBB itself (not via ssh) to be able to launch gui applications on the BBB screen via ssh. but i don't have a usb keyboard or mouse :( any other options? Jan 17 23:58:41 look up what that does Jan 17 23:58:41 ds2: ? Jan 17 23:59:09 ssl_ .. xhost is a hack .. it works but isn't recommended Jan 17 23:59:21 ssh -X or ssh -Y should give you X access via ssh Jan 17 23:59:28 ie. ssh X tunnelling Jan 17 23:59:43 you will need ot enable X11 tunelling in your ssh server Jan 17 23:59:46 disabled by default Jan 18 00:00:36 but if you're simply using the BBB as a dummy terminal ........... Jan 18 00:00:40 or LCD host. Jan 18 00:00:49 veremit, isn't that for showing the remote application on the ssh host? i want the opposite: start an application (ie. firefox) via the ssh console and let it show up on the beaglebone lcd Jan 18 00:01:08 ssl_ .. why are you doing that?! Jan 18 00:02:12 want to remote control it, because it doesn't have a keyboard or mouse attached Jan 18 00:02:28 learn how X works Jan 18 00:02:31 my initial plan was to get x11vnc running Jan 18 00:02:51 add a wirless controller via usb :p Jan 18 00:03:08 and i need to start it via ssh, because, again, dont have a keyboard Jan 18 00:03:15 use a PC :p Jan 18 00:03:16 lol Jan 18 00:03:44 would it be possible to start x11vnc in some kind of autostart? Jan 18 00:03:59 so that it's beeing started locally Jan 18 00:04:59 yes .. look up x11vnc documentation Jan 18 00:05:41 Hi all. Is there a way to identify a BBB revision? I know it is printed on the box it came in, but I have a few and they got mixed up... Jan 18 00:05:52 yemartin .. look at the label on the side Jan 18 00:05:58 of the P8/9 connector Jan 18 00:06:42 -think- its there Jan 18 00:09:22 veremit: thanks... Would that be printed on the board or a sticker label? Jan 18 00:09:34 label sticker .. has the serial number on it too Jan 18 00:12:39 veremit: Ah yes, got it! The altoids tin was hidding it :-) Thank you. Jan 18 00:12:52 welcome Jan 18 01:03:38 Does anyone here use the BeagleBoard-xM with X11 / a desktop? Jan 18 01:04:44 I'd like to know how the interface is. I've used a BBB and found there to be a ~2 second delay for mouse movement on LXDE. Jan 18 01:05:04 that sounds bad Jan 18 01:05:16 the BBB I use with LXDE works fine Jan 18 01:05:57 :-( hrm Jan 18 01:06:26 direct on device .. not sure about over X11 forwarding/vnc/etc Jan 18 01:06:32 Ok, well I'm looking to get one of these boards for a separate project that involves running Debian/ubuntu with LXDE or another light desktop Jan 18 01:06:52 right, no x11 forwarding, I'd like to use the board with a screen Jan 18 01:07:23 yup .. I got BBB with chalkboard 10" touchscreen .. working sweet with debian 7 and LXDE :) Jan 18 01:07:36 the xM looks promising, but I'm having trouble interpreting the information that's available on the site into how it would perform in person Jan 18 01:07:47 awesome, that's great to hear :D Jan 18 01:08:00 why the xM? Jan 18 01:08:48 It looked like the more robust of the two. Jan 18 01:08:56 BBB got HDMI on board :) hehe Jan 18 01:09:12 Doesn't the xM as well? at least in DVI mode? Jan 18 01:09:21 possibly, yeah Jan 18 01:09:25 * ctag thought DVI would work with the chalkboard company screen Jan 18 01:09:27 and BBB is like $50 Jan 18 01:09:44 yeah, there is that x) Jan 18 01:10:02 just don't abuse the GPIOs and you'll be fine lol Jan 18 01:10:15 :P Got it, thanks Jan 18 01:10:28 You know... Jan 18 01:10:54 For $50 I think I'd buy both, and then use the reject as a webserver or something, always have a need for stuff like these. Jan 18 01:11:22 thought the other beagles were >$100 Jan 18 01:11:30 but yeah .. work bought 3 BBB's Jan 18 01:11:39 and two Pis .. Jan 18 01:11:45 and .. lots of Wandboards lol Jan 18 01:11:54 heh Jan 18 01:12:03 yeah, the xM is $150 Jan 18 01:12:12 But I'm also looking to make a car computer this summer, so.. Jan 18 01:12:18 i tried autostarting x11vnc in /etc/rc.local, but it did not work. i tried putting echo "blah" > /home/root/a.txt in there to see if its executed at all. turns out it's not :( Jan 18 01:12:19 wandboard quad :) Jan 18 01:12:35 yes, quadcore lol Jan 18 01:12:41 $120 Jan 18 01:12:45 or $130 Jan 18 01:12:45 quad? Jan 18 01:12:47 wow Jan 18 01:12:49 mhmm Jan 18 01:12:55 But: Jan 18 01:12:57 open source? Jan 18 01:13:00 mhmm Jan 18 01:13:03 imx6 processor Jan 18 01:13:07 dual-core is like $80 Jan 18 01:13:11 woah Jan 18 01:13:30 0.5Gb ethernet Jan 18 01:13:49 wifi built-in on dual/quad Jan 18 01:13:53 sata on quad Jan 18 01:13:58 1/2 gigbit networking? Jan 18 01:14:14 N2TOH .. yes .. its a Gb port, but processor is limited ot 0.5Gb Jan 18 01:14:18 That sounds pretty good Jan 18 01:14:26 linky? Jan 18 01:14:38 http://www.wandboard.org Jan 18 01:15:58 So, I've been trying to narrow down this project from a bunch of small arm boards, and so far my reason for sticking with the beagle boards is the open source hardware. Jan 18 01:16:07 hrm Jan 18 01:16:31 ctag .. lots of choice these days Jan 18 01:16:48 -_- Jan 18 01:16:59 I'm having a hard time telling what's OS and what's not Jan 18 01:17:10 Like the UDOO is arm based, but not exactly open by design Jan 18 01:17:11 once you've played witha few .. you suddenly find you can unbrick your 3G arm-based router etc lol Jan 18 01:17:24 xP Jan 18 01:19:35 Also, power consumption. The best info I could find was a forum post that claimed the xM draws ~3W Jan 18 01:19:51 wow 3A maybe .. lol Jan 18 01:20:09 most of 'em are about 2A max. no peripherals at boot-time on 5V Jan 18 01:20:31 don;t forget that the BBB can run from and charge LiPO cell Jan 18 01:21:08 the post concluded 3.7W Jan 18 01:21:23 And.. I can't get a link, because Google forum thingy Jan 18 01:21:44 http://beagleboard.org/Community/Forums/?place=topic%2Fbeagleboard%2Fs3zIpN_9lig%2Fdiscussion Jan 18 01:21:45 I would really be surprised if that was true ctag .. unless the processor was in standby Jan 18 01:21:59 http://pansenti.wordpress.com/2013/06/01/powering-a-beaglebone-black-with-a-single-cell-li-ion-or-lipo-battery-yes-it-can-be-done-but-there-are-issues/ Jan 18 01:22:24 http://www.ti.com/product/tps65217C Jan 18 01:22:34 the power chip is what allows it Jan 18 01:23:21 guys over at MIT are already talking about a LiPO cape w/USB hub Jan 18 01:23:26 huh Jan 18 01:23:35 but that's for the BBB, right? Jan 18 01:23:41 yes Jan 18 01:24:20 currently talking about the xM, N2TOH Jan 18 01:24:31 TPS65910 Jan 18 01:24:31 it's not perfect, but it's basically an onboard UPS Jan 18 01:24:37 ah sorry bout that Jan 18 01:24:52 That's pretty neat, N2TOH Jan 18 01:25:01 And I guess as of now I'm also looking at the BBB Jan 18 01:25:13 * N2TOH ducks back over to the MIT server... Jan 18 01:25:14 * ctag chucks BBB and wandboard onto pile of options Jan 18 01:25:25 heh Jan 18 01:26:08 at the very least on on board power chip with it's ability can keep the OS from crashing during an extended power blip Jan 18 01:26:32 That's an important feature Jan 18 01:27:02 with a 3.7V 2000mAh cell that is an extra long blip :) Jan 18 01:27:10 or a 5V regulator with 12V in and some big capacitors you'll be fine :p Jan 18 01:27:52 the 1000mAh cell from sparkfun will fit on the bottom of a cape board and not interfere with the major parts on the board Jan 18 01:28:02 much cheaper too :D Jan 18 01:28:27 I'm looking up videos of the wandboard, it looks pretty responsive with Ubuntu Jan 18 01:28:32 the cell is under @20USD with shipping and most id not all support parts Jan 18 01:28:48 regulator + caps < $5 ... Jan 18 01:28:59 I'll be powering this project with a battery, so the UPS is somewhat accounted for Jan 18 01:29:07 no the BBB supports a 3.7V cell directly Jan 18 01:29:10 worst case plenty of time for a shutdown :) Jan 18 01:29:10 but, by all means, still useful for other things Jan 18 01:29:39 ubuntu is a bit heaviweight for arm systems .. but probably fine on the dual/quad-cores Jan 18 01:30:05 I have seen occasions with just desktop up its taking 80% cpu lol Jan 18 01:30:13 heh Jan 18 01:30:20 yeah, I can believe that Jan 18 01:31:57 this is what I want for a miniature PC ... http://www.viaembedded.com/en/products/boards/1950/1/EPIA-P910.html Jan 18 01:32:05 :D Jan 18 01:32:13 /That's/ what my work got me Jan 18 01:32:22 they're pretty nice Jan 18 01:32:34 more like a full desktop on a board though, lots of power and whatnot Jan 18 01:32:39 mhm Jan 18 01:32:54 ah if they're around .. need to poke boss to get some :D Jan 18 01:32:56 And they seem to muc preffer Windows Jan 18 01:33:03 :P Jan 18 01:33:05 we made a teeny ali case for them Jan 18 01:33:12 cool Jan 18 01:33:13 www.picopc.co.uk Jan 18 01:33:20 fanless ofc Jan 18 01:33:37 that was the original single-core though Jan 18 01:33:38 wow Jan 18 01:33:52 cute as *** :D Jan 18 01:34:57 I gotta go, bbl. Thanks guys :D Jan 18 01:35:03 np Jan 18 01:55:18 anyone knows if Pi4J is compatible with the BeagleBone Black? Jan 18 01:55:36 someone talked about tryin to port it Jan 18 01:55:42 but its a Pi library :p Jan 18 01:56:11 true Jan 18 01:56:32 or is there another library for gpios and java? Jan 18 01:56:57 had a quick look .. but seems not Jan 18 01:57:28 ok thanks, perhaps ill build something around the filesystem access Jan 18 01:57:44 sysfs seems slow .. might wanna try the 'dev/mem' approach Jan 18 01:58:16 ill look into this tomorrow.. Jan 18 01:58:29 btw: i got that display stuff sorted out Jan 18 01:58:40 got ya vnc and everything? Jan 18 01:58:46 yes Jan 18 01:58:53 cool gratz Jan 18 01:59:08 also, can run ffirefox and stuff on the remote lcd Jan 18 01:59:40 just need to plug it into the tV, and control it from a tablet now :) Jan 18 01:59:43 lol Jan 18 01:59:56 the trick was to copy /var/run/gdm/auth-for-root-xxxxxx/database to ~/.Xauthority Jan 18 02:00:25 need to do this every reboot it seems Jan 18 02:00:29 be warned it'll change ... yes. Jan 18 02:00:31 and xxxxxx are random chars Jan 18 02:00:36 there are ways round it I understand Jan 18 02:01:55 now the only issue remains with the 60sec wait at boot Jan 18 02:02:15 something not right there .. should zip right through Jan 18 02:02:15 well, i can live with this, but theres something wrong there Jan 18 02:02:26 mine boots in <60sec to lxde Jan 18 02:02:53 it's not that its unter load Jan 18 02:03:02 just some timeout Jan 18 02:03:11 yes somethings wrong :p Jan 18 02:03:44 my guess is that the moment it wants to load the dtbo, the filesystem hasn't come up yet and when it retries after 60secs, it works imediatly Jan 18 02:04:13 shold be a rootwait for that Jan 18 02:04:19 or a rootdelay in the kernel commandline Jan 18 02:04:29 yes there is a rootwait there Jan 18 02:04:34 dont know Jan 18 02:04:39 so it won't be that Jan 18 02:04:44 unless your rootfs is broken Jan 18 02:04:54 dont thinkso Jan 18 02:08:00 this is my dmesg: http://pastebin.com/HqYMqMc0 Jan 18 02:08:14 you can clearly see the 60s delay at the timestamps Jan 18 02:08:29 line 285 Jan 18 02:10:37 you running on eMMC? Jan 18 02:10:51 thats one epic delay after mounting rootfs Jan 18 02:10:59 yes Jan 18 02:11:08 not using any eMMC conflictin pins? Jan 18 02:11:15 nope Jan 18 02:11:19 only the lcd ones Jan 18 02:14:11 got an idea what's causing this? Jan 18 02:14:26 not really Jan 18 02:15:15 but I'm guessing its something to do with the emmc and/or virtual capes/capemgr Jan 18 02:17:27 ok I need ot take a break .. bbl Jan 18 02:18:03 ok, and i need some sleep. thanks for the help, bye Jan 18 02:36:18 is the usb host port on the beagle bone powered by the beaglebone dc jack directly Jan 18 02:36:33 or does it go through some circuitry limiting the power Jan 18 02:52:56 Limiting circuitry. Jan 18 02:53:31 Actually, let me double check that. I know some of it does. Jan 18 02:56:38 The host port is limited Jan 18 02:58:48 500ma Jan 18 02:59:41 Did anyone back the LOGi FPGA for Beaglebone Kickstarter? I missed out :( **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Jan 18 02:59:59 2014