**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jan 28 02:59:59 2014
Jan 28 03:01:00 <johnwalkr> did a search and a few people are running slackware on beaglebone black
Jan 28 03:01:28 <m_billybob> think most every decent distro has been made to run on it
Jan 28 03:01:48 <m_billybob> Fedora, and even Sabayon too from what they've claimed early on
Jan 28 03:04:24 <m_billybob> but form hanging out in here atleast since may last year i think ( maybe earlier ) that Debian, ARCH, and Gentoo were all running very early on, and BSD was supposed to have had support out of the box.
Jan 28 03:06:21 <m_billybob> im happy with debian though, it runs very well and seems very stable so far
Jan 28 03:07:30 <veremit> yeah I'm running deb on beagle/wand and Pcs :)
Jan 28 03:07:46 <veremit> laptop here has a flavour of debian too
Jan 28 03:07:50 <m_billybob> you have a wanderboard too eh ?
Jan 28 03:07:57 <veremit> mhmm
Jan 28 03:07:59 <veremit> <3 it
Jan 28 03:08:23 <veremit> and a *cough*pi
Jan 28 03:08:25 <m_billybob> i run a laptop dual boot win 7 / debian 7 ( wheezy  kernel 3.2 )
Jan 28 03:08:40 <m_billybob> im still very partial to my windows desktops
Jan 28 03:08:40 <veremit> 3.2 is ancient though lol
Jan 28 03:08:53 <m_billybob> it is or was latest PC stable
Jan 28 03:08:56 <veremit> yeah I gotta dig deep for a 7 license :(
Jan 28 03:09:13 <veremit> my PCs still XP :/
Jan 28 03:10:53 <m_billybob> if it works it works. I just mean that I dont use Linux as a desktop most of  the time. prefer CLI mostly
Jan 28 03:12:34 <m_billybob> the laptop i have here that dual boots wheezy, doesnt even have X on it. It serves dual purpose TFTP/NFS servers ( netboot ) and cross compile system.
Jan 28 03:13:22 <veremit> heh cool
Jan 28 03:13:30 <veremit> yeah we're all gentoo/kde at work .. its ok to use
Jan 28 03:13:44 <veremit> but we're ages behind on the compiling b/s
Jan 28 03:13:50 <veremit> and I got a gcc transition to manage :/
Jan 28 03:15:00 <m_billybob> im still leanring about linux dev, and embedded linux. its funny i have years og development experience, but not on Linux, and this is my first time playing with Linux in an embedded context. all prior embedded experience is / was with devicesthat run no OS
Jan 28 03:15:34 <veremit> cool
Jan 28 03:15:48 <veremit> lots to learn .. esp. on the embedded front
Jan 28 03:16:02 <veremit> cant believe how much Ihave had to crash-learn in the damn kernel :/
Jan 28 03:16:12 <m_billybob> guess you could say that im mostly a high level programmer, but my early days started out low level, but on DOS
Jan 28 03:17:21 <m_billybob> im still leaning othe things
Jan 28 03:17:27 <veremit> I threw a few apps in Pascal .. but I was doin Basic on the old BBC's
Jan 28 03:17:37 <m_billybob> spent awhile learning abotu uboot and various boot techniques for the BBB
Jan 28 03:18:04 <m_billybob> now i have the ability to boot my BBB over the network via multiple systems, or boot off a USB drive
Jan 28 03:18:08 <veremit> touched on C .. jumped around on other languages
Jan 28 03:18:12 <veremit> hehe cool
Jan 28 03:18:35 <m_billybob> need a good development system deving on the BBB on flash media == bad mojo
Jan 28 03:18:46 <veremit> yeah
Jan 28 03:19:54 <m_billybob> orignally i wanted to boot via iSCSI, but that turned out to be much more of a hassle than TFTP/NFS, and NFS is super fast on the BBB ( consiering 10/100 ethernet ) anyhow
Jan 28 03:21:21 <veremit> heh yeah I never made out PXE net bootin work well over nfs on gentoo :/
Jan 28 03:21:34 <veremit> probably needed  an initramfs
Jan 28 03:21:55 <veremit> intermediate boot stage
Jan 28 03:22:25 <m_billybob> heh i started with qbasic back in the DOS 5 days, then briefly moved to ASM, before C/C++ and eventually visual basic, visual basic .NET, C#, and others
Jan 28 03:22:53 <veremit> yeah I did VB bit of Delphi
Jan 28 03:22:58 <veremit> jumped to c# also
Jan 28 03:23:03 <veremit> done perl .. wanna do python
Jan 28 03:23:11 <veremit> need to properly learn c++ really some day
Jan 28 03:23:13 <m_billybob> i can read almost any anguage
Jan 28 03:23:22 <veremit> once you done about 5 they'r eall the same
Jan 28 03:23:31 <m_billybob> python i can easily read through the code but never written anything in it
Jan 28 03:23:34 <veremit> just get the syntax right in a good editor :)
Jan 28 03:23:43 <m_billybob> perl is a nightmareto read, i really dont liek it lol
Jan 28 03:24:14 <veremit> it can be a nightmare to code too
Jan 28 03:24:18 <dlg> huggz
Jan 28 03:24:23 <veremit> data structures are totally missing
Jan 28 03:24:48 <m_billybob> i've a friend who makes a very good living programming in perl professionally.
Jan 28 03:25:03 <m_billybob> hes worked for the likes of amazon
Jan 28 03:25:21 <veremit> there's definitely a call for it
Jan 28 03:25:41 <m_billybob> I think he write a lot of web backend stuff with it.
Jan 28 03:26:29 <m_billybob> i know hes into web development but not quite sure exactly what he does.
Jan 28 04:05:57 <veremit> ok I must sleep . nite folks .. ttyl
Jan 28 04:06:35 <Guest68011> any
Jan 28 05:49:59 <jmitch> hello
Jan 28 05:50:20 <jmitch> does anyone know a place I can order 100 or so beaglebone blacks?
Jan 28 05:50:31 <jmitch> circuitco is unresponsive
Jan 28 05:51:51 <jmitch> ?
Jan 28 07:15:07 <LetoThe2nd> jmitch: nowawdays, no.
Jan 28 07:15:50 <LetoThe2nd> jmitch: production lines are maxed out, backorder books are full. you'll have to wait like anybody lese.
Jan 28 07:26:41 <johnwalkr> lol
Jan 28 07:26:48 <johnwalkr> just after that reply
Jan 28 07:26:54 <johnwalkr> 2 beaglebones showed up at my desk
Jan 28 07:27:14 <johnwalkr> i ordered them about 2 weeks ago
Jan 28 07:27:36 <LetoThe2nd> had with your distributor, then :)
Jan 28 07:27:40 <LetoThe2nd> *luck
Jan 28 07:31:51 <johnwalkr> yeah really
Jan 28 07:31:57 <johnwalkr> they said i wouldn’t get them until april
Jan 28 07:32:07 <johnwalkr> it was to replace one i fried doing an experiment
Jan 28 07:32:28 <johnwalkr> so in the meantime i had to use an auction site to get one for like $100 :(
Jan 28 07:32:36 <johnwalkr> cause I couldn’t wait until april
Jan 28 07:33:15 <johnwalkr> i see it’s a new revision, a6a
Jan 28 08:11:45 <tasslehoff> We're doing reboot testing on our C3-like board that has LAN9500 connected to musb. Sometimes networking fails, and it seems not to have found the LAN9500 at all. Anyone aware of current/past issues with musb and/or lan9500 on reboot?
Jan 28 08:12:19 <tasslehoff> It seems to only happen on reboot, not if we shut down the system completely and turn it on again.
Jan 28 08:34:47 <spoonox> hi all, once again me with the topic ADC in continous mode:
Jan 28 08:35:12 <spoonox> running Ubuntu (3.8.13) on BBB
Jan 28 08:35:37 <spoonox> did the following to get data from voltage0 in continuos mode:
Jan 28 08:35:46 <spoonox> http://pastebin.com/FEAfeSnd
Jan 28 08:36:30 <spoonox> can anybody tell me how to interpret the data jumble coming from /dev/iio:device0 after conversion
Jan 28 08:38:15 <LetoThe2nd> probably its the binary ADC data, just like the coordinates from /dev/mouse or such
Jan 28 08:38:28 <spoonox> this are the data from the adc, because if i vary the buffer length, the length of data vary too
Jan 28 08:38:42 <LetoThe2nd> well then whats the problem?
Jan 28 08:39:34 <spoonox> the problem is to get out the 12bit values to decimal hex or anything whats readable
Jan 28 08:40:19 <LetoThe2nd> just don't cat the data, rather read it in a controlled way. if in doubt, hexdump is your friend. or sprintf. or bc/dc. or....
Jan 28 08:42:42 <spoonox> thx, i will try it
Jan 28 08:52:13 <spoonox> hexdump -d data seems to be the right way, because two bytes present the information of 12bit conversion followed by double /0 termination
Jan 28 08:52:34 <spoonox> thx again LetoThe2nd
Jan 28 08:53:20 <LetoThe2nd> have fun
Jan 28 09:03:18 <tasslehoff> this seems like our case http://e2e.ti.com/support/embedded/linux/f/354/t/138486.aspx
Jan 28 09:18:28 <beagle13> Hi... Im using beaglebone cape for the first time...mine is BeagleBone TiWi-BLE w/ Chip Antenna .. is there anyuseful link which can guide me...
Jan 28 13:25:24 <Andy1978> I have a BeagleBoard xM with the leopard LI-5M03CS camera module with aptina mt9p031 sensor. Does anyone have build a recent kernel with device tree for this hardware? Are there any suggestions which git repo I should clone to start?
Jan 28 13:25:36 <av500> oh
Jan 28 13:25:52 <Andy1978> For example there are some repos from RobertCNelson and the kernel repo from Laurent Pinchart
Jan 28 13:26:03 <av500> maybe a mix of both :)
Jan 28 13:27:58 <Andy1978> Ah, there is also Florian Vaussard involved in omap3isp development https://github.com/vaussard/linux
Jan 28 13:32:00 <Andy1978> av500: :-D yeah, maybe a mix of those 3?
Jan 28 13:34:56 <av500> oh wow
Jan 28 13:35:04 <av500> and he's even active :)
Jan 28 13:35:08 <av500> commit last month
Jan 28 13:35:55 <Andy1978> av500: which branch? 3.14-det-v2?
Jan 28 13:35:57 <av500> ah, epfl
Jan 28 13:36:09 <av500> iommu/dt
Jan 28 14:25:44 <Dotails> Hello?
Jan 28 14:26:56 <Dotails> Is there a datasheet for BeagleBoard-xM for dimensions
Jan 28 14:28:14 <jhast> So I have a U-boot console running on a ARM/DSP which has 3 SPI buses 4 slaves each. I compiled in the sspi command in to test SPI comms but it only seems to work on 0:0. Work as in I see signals on an o-scope. Any ideas on what I can try to debug this?
Jan 28 14:30:25 <av500> on what CPU?
Jan 28 14:31:25 <jhast> It's a stretch but its a TI Keystone II.. not getting much help from them so I'm here :|
Jan 28 14:32:00 <jhast> the spi driver in uboot was even hardcoded for 0:0 and I had to modify it. No comment as to why it was
Jan 28 14:32:20 <av500> well, its very offtopic
Jan 28 14:32:29 <av500> I guess you are using that commercially
Jan 28 14:32:36 <av500> ?
Jan 28 14:32:51 <av500> then please go and ask TI
Jan 28 14:32:53 <av500> or
Jan 28 14:32:55 <av500> send me a board
Jan 28 14:35:46 <jhast> I think asking a general U-boot question is fair, but I understand your statement. Thanks.
Jan 28 14:35:58 <av500> well, this is not a uboot channel either
Jan 28 14:36:43 <jhast> Thanks
Jan 28 14:42:40 <jhast> Don't use IRC much.. found the #u-boot channel, thanks.
Jan 28 14:44:55 <av500> jhast: good luck
Jan 28 14:47:15 <manish> hi
Jan 28 14:47:15 <mdp> is there a Beaglestone Black now?
Jan 28 14:47:27 <manish> hi
Jan 28 14:47:35 <manish> anybody is there ?
Jan 28 14:48:00 <manish> hello
Jan 28 14:49:27 <av500> no
Jan 28 14:49:29 <av500> we are closed
Jan 28 14:50:00 <mdp> the boys are on coffee break
Jan 28 14:50:07 <myself> wow, that was frantic
Jan 28 14:50:16 <myself> did he pm anyone else?
Jan 28 14:50:20 <mdp> a cry for help
Jan 28 14:50:54 <KotH> .o0(deine springerstiefel schreien nur nach zärtlichkeit...)
Jan 28 15:41:32 <lordofire> hello
Jan 28 15:41:45 <lordofire> Anyone there?
Jan 28 15:41:48 <LetoThe2nd> no.
Jan 28 15:41:58 <av500> yes
Jan 28 15:42:06 <tbr> maybe
Jan 28 15:42:08 <LetoThe2nd> the lords of winds, earth and water have just left
Jan 28 15:42:21 <lordofire> lol
Jan 28 15:42:35 <av500> and the lord of dance?
Jan 28 15:43:11 <lordofire> Technical question, have anyone managed to install ubuntu 12.04 on BBB?
Jan 28 15:43:34 <LetoThe2nd> av500: will arrive at 20:15
Jan 28 15:43:41 <av500> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu
Jan 28 15:43:46 <LetoThe2nd> lordofire: yes. nice we could help you.
Jan 28 15:43:51 <LetoThe2nd> next ticket!!!
Jan 28 15:44:11 <av500> my printer is stuck
Jan 28 15:44:20 <av500> can IT helpdesk help?
Jan 28 15:44:20 <LetoThe2nd> av500: unstick it.
Jan 28 15:44:24 <LetoThe2nd> NEXT TICKET!!!
Jan 28 15:44:49 <LetoThe2nd> av500: ... or use a (tizen) sticker
Jan 28 15:47:19 <lordofire> Thanx! Actually, I download the img.xz file of ubuntu or debian and use xz -cd XXX to flash it into the SD card. After that I pushed the boot button on BBB to flush the image to eMMC. The wired thing is one the USER0 and USER2 is flashing and the image cannot be loaded into the eMMC. Anyone could help?
Jan 28 15:48:13 <LetoThe2nd> lordofire: then why did you ask about the fact if someone runs ubuntu if you are totally not interested in the answer, respectively want to knwo something totally different?
Jan 28 15:49:13 <LetoThe2nd> lordofire: and recent versions should not require buttons to be pressed upon boot. just prepare the card, insert, power on. this order.
Jan 28 15:49:37 <LetoThe2nd> lordofire: mind, debian gets way more love then ubuntu recently.
Jan 28 15:49:53 <iandow> Does anyone know if adafruit's wifi dongle will work on the 3.8.13 kernel?
Jan 28 15:51:02 <lordofire> LetoThe2nd : Thanks for your response! I tried directly boot without button pushed, but it seems that all LEDs are up and nothing happens
Jan 28 15:52:01 <LetoThe2nd> lordofire: if you have a serial connection, look whats going on. if you don't have one, get one.
Jan 28 15:53:19 <lordofire> LetoThe2nd : What makes me confused is that when I tried 13.04, everything is perfect....
Jan 28 15:53:34 <alex001> Hello. I started seeing more debian beta images for the beaglebone. Are there plans on obsoleting angstrom ?
Jan 28 15:53:47 <LetoThe2nd> spoonox: no private queries, please.
Jan 28 15:53:54 <LetoThe2nd> alex001: no.
Jan 28 15:53:57 <lordofire> I'm a newbie for BBB, so could you please give me some hint about how to use serial connection to debug?
Jan 28 15:54:38 <lordofire> Especially for this eMMC loading issue
Jan 28 15:54:50 <LetoThe2nd> lordofire: http://www.elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBone_Black_Serial
Jan 28 15:56:35 <KotH> lordofire: get the "embedded linux primer"
Jan 28 15:56:39 <KotH> lordofire: you need it
Jan 28 15:57:24 <KotH> lordofire: http://www.amazon.com/Embedded-Linux-Primer-Practical-Real-World/dp/0137017839
Jan 28 15:57:51 <alex001> LetoThe2nd: I see. No idea why I got that impression ;)
Jan 28 15:58:11 <lordofire> KotH : Thanks for your sharing!
Jan 28 15:58:19 <KotH> np
Jan 28 16:00:56 <lordofire> I believe I will firstly try install ubuntu or debian with a monitor next time before I ask another question. I think there is possibilities that the OS installation is just stuck at login screen, which I could not access...lol
Jan 28 16:01:28 <lordofire> Thanks, LetoThe2nd. Hopefully I will solve it, or else I will try use serial connection to debug
Jan 28 16:02:57 <LetoThe2nd> lordofire: the serial debug cable really is your friend
Jan 28 16:04:42 <lordofire> LetoThe2nd : I will dig into that definitely
Jan 28 16:06:17 <KotH> lordofire: in the embedded world, the serial cable is your monitor and keyboard
Jan 28 16:06:51 <KotH> lordofire: even the "normal" monitor and "normal" keyboard is a secondary device that gets enabled later
Jan 28 16:07:37 <lordofire> KotH : this is really surprising to me.... Still get a lot to learn, haha
Jan 28 16:07:49 <KotH> lordofire: 1) learn linux and learn it well
Jan 28 16:07:58 <KotH> lordofire: 2) forget everything you learn about how a pc works
Jan 28 16:08:04 <KotH> lordofire: 3) start from scratch again
Jan 28 16:08:14 <KotH> lordofire: 4) try it, fail, retry
Jan 28 16:08:25 <KotH> lordofire: 5) become a master in all things linux
Jan 28 16:08:29 <KotH> lordofire: 6) ..
Jan 28 16:08:32 <KotH> lordofire: 7) profit
Jan 28 16:09:05 <KotH> lordofire: 8) come back to #beagle and tell us about your war stories
Jan 28 16:09:41 <lordofire> Get it, I will!
Jan 28 16:11:22 <lordofire> KotH : To be honest, I have been working on embedded for a while, but only get started on embedded linux these days. Your experience is really valuable to me
Jan 28 16:18:27 <KotH> poor soul
Jan 28 16:18:43 <KotH> someone should tell him that he needs to forget everything he knows  about emebedded...
Jan 28 16:21:41 <woglinde> hi koth
Jan 28 16:23:05 <KotH> hey woglinde
Jan 28 16:23:22 <KotH> woglinde: wenn du wünsche für schoggi hast, solltest du mir das bald (so heute, spätestens morgen) mitteilen
Jan 28 16:23:28 <KotH> woglinde: sollte bald einkaufen gehen
Jan 28 17:15:52 <iandow> I'm getting a "No space left on device" error while running opkg update.  It seems /tmp is full.  Is there a workaround for htis?
Jan 28 17:17:30 <XorA> put /tmp on a bigger disk
Jan 28 17:17:35 <woglinde> more space on the device?
Jan 28 17:20:09 <woglinde> hrms
Jan 28 17:20:20 <woglinde> sstate not working in my setup
Jan 28 17:55:33 <iandow> Now I understand what the -t tmp-dir arg is for with opkg
Jan 28 19:23:39 <ZiNC> lo
Jan 28 19:38:06 <fumbler> hey anyone know if the BBB has bluetooth? there's a bluetooth init script in there
Jan 28 19:38:55 <penth> not built in but it works with usb bt dongles
Jan 28 19:39:34 <fumbler> well that's a relief, thanks
Jan 28 19:39:58 <fumbler> i'm praying the BBB is GCHQ-proof
Jan 28 19:39:58 <fumbler> nice to know when something messes up it's my own fault
Jan 28 19:41:53 <fumbler> I do have another q but I'm just checking Google first...about where to put initialization scripts, eg ifconfig... I got a book on Red Hat but that talks about inittab which I can't find on the BBB. Also the TCP-IP book is a bit quick on init scripts, if you aren't running a RH-style distro
Jan 28 19:42:47 <fumbler> I tried the rc0-6 scripts but they were nothing like the l1:2:boot:... prescribed in that book
Jan 28 19:43:21 <fumbler> just a load of K20xyz stuff so I was wary about where to stick those if I had to write one.
Jan 28 19:43:42 <fumbler> Anyways now I'm checking for a 'cron boot tute'
Jan 28 19:43:44 <penth> init scripts depend on which distro you're using on the bbb,eg. angstrom vs arch vs debian
Jan 28 19:44:06 <fumbler> well i got the linaro server ( no python???)
Jan 28 19:44:18 <fumbler> but I also have one with the standard Angstrom distro
Jan 28 19:44:21 <penth> check the linaro docs then
Jan 28 19:44:33 <fumbler> are they included in the OS?
Jan 28 19:44:47 <penth> Can't say as I've never used that one
Jan 28 19:45:12 <fumbler> Angstrom?
Jan 28 19:45:44 <fumbler> @reboot /home/root/boot_send_ip.py
Jan 28 19:45:53 <fumbler> that look good for a boot script?
Jan 28 19:46:43 <fumbler> ie @reboot /home/root/_SOME_SCRIPT
Jan 28 19:47:11 <fumbler> never used cron before (gulp)
Jan 28 19:48:47 <fumbler> this looks nice:
Jan 28 19:48:49 <fumbler> http://unixgeeks.org/security/newbie/unix/cron-1.html
Jan 28 19:52:04 <fumbler> OK last question...is there no iptables in the ubuntu distro?
Jan 28 19:53:32 <fumbler> 'Setting a static IP  address requires editing /etc/network/interfaces'
Jan 28 19:53:47 <fumbler> http://www.gigamegablog.com/2012/01/29/beaglebone-linux-101-configuring-angstrom-linux/
Jan 28 19:53:58 <fumbler> surely the daddy of all noob BBB pages 8)
Jan 28 19:54:41 <fumbler> no sign of iptables though 8I
Jan 28 19:55:52 * fumbler fries some eggs
Jan 28 19:56:12 <fumbler> thanks penth, thanks guys, ciao
Jan 28 19:56:23 <fumbler> happy boning !!
Jan 28 20:03:36 <mihir> need assistance on booting android on beaglebone
Jan 28 20:08:01 <mihir> init: sys_prop: permission denied uid:1003  name:service.bootanim.exit
Jan 28 20:08:15 <mihir> last log while loading android
Jan 28 20:12:52 <mihir> unable to boot android on baglebone
Jan 28 20:13:17 <mihir> last log while booting" init: sys_prop: permission denied uid:1003  name:service.bootanim.exit"
Jan 28 21:42:23 <frenchface> has anyone else had TERRIBLE customer service out of newark? Where does everyone buy from?
Jan 28 21:46:11 <alecain> Try octopart? Not a supplier but they aggregate the prices from a lot of different vendors.
Jan 28 21:47:26 <alecain> frenchface: ^^
Jan 28 21:48:13 <frenchface> thanks
Jan 28 21:50:00 <alecain> Has anyone ever gotten an RFBI display working?
Jan 28 22:05:44 <ZiNC> frenchface: What happened?
Jan 28 22:09:39 <frenchface> I purchased a beaglebone black late december, it said it was in stock with 2-3 day shipping. A week by, I checked their site, still said in stock so i called them only to find out that they were not really in stock. they were backordered and I was 700ish in line and they told me they would have them in stock in late Jan. They didn't want to do anything to make it right. Later they sent me a 20% coupon, I tried to use it the cod
Jan 28 22:09:39 <frenchface> e worked however it didnt take 20% off. Now today they called me and said it was instock but that they had another issue and that I would need to cancel my order and reorder it, i told them to just cancel it and i'll order from somewhere else...
Jan 28 22:10:44 <thurgood> wowo.. suckage
Jan 28 22:11:20 <frenchface> I even filled a complaint with the BBB, they refused to do anything
Jan 28 22:11:28 <frenchface> they as in newark
Jan 28 22:11:40 <thurgood> bbb is really just a club
Jan 28 22:12:02 <thurgood> they have no teeth
Jan 28 22:12:33 <thurgood> and rarely do anything against people that pay the due
Jan 28 22:12:38 <thurgood> dues
Jan 28 22:12:50 <frenchface> yep
Jan 28 22:15:01 <frenchface> last thing, about 2-3 weeks after i put my order in, they sent out an email to everyone saying that they were backordered...cant beleive it took them 2-3 weeks and didnt even attempt to give out a coupon with the apology.
Jan 28 22:19:35 <zump> are there any prebuilt crosscompilers for beaglebone black?
Jan 28 22:22:14 <thurgood> aside from gcc?
Jan 28 22:23:09 <zump> thurgood: is this a correct one? http://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black#BeagleBoneBlack-ARMCrossCompiler:GCC
Jan 28 22:25:15 <thurgood> can't say for certain.. but if its' advertised as such, I would give it a try
Jan 28 22:51:41 <ZiNC> frenchface: Sounds messy on their side, but not THAT horrible.
Jan 28 22:51:58 <ZiNC> I'd use that 20% off on the Beaglebone. :)
Jan 28 22:52:40 <ZiNC> But, if I recall, they are one of these sites where you can't know the full price (with S&H, tax) before practically checking out.
Jan 28 22:52:53 <ZiNC> And this I try to avoid if at all possible.
Jan 28 23:33:17 <granito-laptop> how would I set up my beaglebone so I can ssh into it over the internet? Everything I find is about giving it a static address or other similar stuff
Jan 28 23:38:06 <beaglealpha> can anyone tell me if i can use a ESC on the beaglebone as a dc motor controller? i don't seem to be able to find the answer anywhere
Jan 28 23:42:57 <thurgood> granito-laptop: you mean from outside your LAN?
Jan 28 23:44:19 <granito-laptop> yea
Jan 28 23:44:24 <granito-laptop> I found this thing called yaler
Jan 28 23:44:32 <granito-laptop> https://yaler.net/beaglebone-ubuntu
Jan 28 23:44:38 <granito-laptop> trying it out atm
Jan 28 23:44:42 <thurgood> that's a router issue more than a beagle issue
Jan 28 23:45:29 <granito-laptop> oh snap. So I'd look up how to make my router let my BBB talk to the internet?
Jan 28 23:46:07 <thurgood> you probably want to look up port forwarding for your router
Jan 28 23:46:36 <thurgood> then forward the ssh port from outside to your beagle's address
Jan 28 23:46:54 <granito-laptop> oooooh
Jan 28 23:48:34 <agmlego> beaglealpha: Sure. The bone has PWM outputs.
Jan 28 23:49:49 <beaglealpha> thanks
Jan 28 23:49:49 <granito-laptop> I think I found the port forwarding stuff. Thanks!
Jan 29 01:36:31 <ScottEH> Does anyone know if there is a PCB template available as a starter point to develop a PCB that includes the header pins?
Jan 29 01:39:55 <ds2> use the SRM and just draw it in
Jan 29 01:40:00 <ds2> takes less then 10mins
Jan 29 01:41:29 <prpplague> ScottEH: there are several libraries available for eagle
Jan 29 01:41:40 <prpplague> ScottEH: including ones from adafruit and sparkfun
Jan 29 01:42:30 <prpplague> ScottEH: http://elinux.org/ECE497_Notes_on_Creating_a_Beaglebone_Cape
Jan 29 02:12:53 <bgat> Hi guys. :-)
Jan 29 02:13:33 <bgat> Anyone aware of any lingering issues with BBB and similar boards, which hang during high SD card throughput?
Jan 29 02:14:05 * honestly raises a brow
Jan 29 02:14:28 <honestly> hitting the sd card will make your system stall like all fuck
Jan 29 02:14:38 <bgat> I've got a few OMAP boards that are basically BeagleBoard clones, running several different 3.x kernels, and I get a very sporadic hang that appears to be SD card related.
Jan 29 02:14:48 <bgat> Well, this doesn't seem to be a "stall", more like a deadlock.
Jan 29 02:14:49 <honestly> define hang
Jan 29 02:15:47 <prpplague> bgat: try bumping the max hsmmc clock down to 25mhz or less to see if the issue goes away
Jan 29 02:16:06 <veremit> what manufacturer of SD card?
Jan 29 02:16:08 <bgat> I don't have a kernel log in front of me, but the kernel reports that an SD-related thread has been blocked for more than X seconds.  (I'm getting some of the information secondhand, going to get my own log tomorrow I hope but the problem is DARNED hard to reproduce.)
Jan 29 02:16:10 <veremit> some are Much worse than others
Jan 29 02:16:21 <veremit> sandisk are definitely good.
Jan 29 02:16:58 <veremit> prpplague: rma beagle on its way :|
Jan 29 02:17:00 <bgat> Several different brands of cards, I don't have a list.  I just got the phone call a little while ago asking for help. :-)
Jan 29 02:17:53 <bgat> I glanced at several different versions of omap_hsmmc.c, and I don't see a lot of use of spin_lock_irqsave().  Which I find troubling.
Jan 29 02:17:55 <prpplague> veremit: got all the paper done then?
Jan 29 02:18:12 <veremit> prpplague... damn papers :p
Jan 29 02:18:23 <bgat> @prpplague: that's a good idea.
Jan 29 02:18:30 <veremit> and labels and packing :p
Jan 29 02:19:41 <bgat> Basically, the board occasionally dumps a big chunk of stuff out to SD, the average throughput is low but bursty. They see the problem more frequently when they're doing DSP code at the same time, or other things that cause extra interrupts.
Jan 29 02:20:21 <bgat> Which, combined with the lack of spinlocks in the code around status register clearing and interrupt masking, makes me suspicious that something is racing.
Jan 29 02:21:44 <bgat> But they still don't see the problem THAT frequently. Just often enough to fail but not often enough to make the problem easy to spot.
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