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Mar 06 17:54:18 <panto> SPI is easier to implement than I2C btw, and probably faster if you bitbang it
Mar 06 17:54:28 <ds2> SPI is a shift register. nothing more.
Mar 06 17:54:38 <panto> right
Mar 06 17:55:03 <Tartarus> quad the spi!
Mar 06 17:55:08 <panto> Tartarus, +1
Mar 06 17:55:17 <ds2> hehe QSPI heheh
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Mar 06 18:25:17 <HePeR> hi
Mar 06 18:26:22 <HePeR> i've been reading on the interwebs about some issues with PWM on the BBB ...
Mar 06 18:26:51 <tbr> the interwebs are a dangerous place
Mar 06 18:27:11 <HePeR> yes ... one can get stuck in them
Mar 06 18:28:31 <HePeR> anyhow, there appear to be 2 python libs available that can be used to easily interface with the various IOs on the BBB
Mar 06 18:28:49 <HePeR> both seems to be struggling a bit with PWM.
Mar 06 18:29:20 <tbr> well, as long as they don't try such BS as bit-banging PWM
Mar 06 18:31:36 * HePeR = fairly noobish (i have a little experience with arduino-style toys tho) 
Mar 06 18:32:25 <tbr> the cpu is not a micro controller, it runs a kernel and userspace
Mar 06 18:33:45 <HePeR> yep, that i figured out by reading; unfortunately i'm not finding many useful libraries except them python ones.
Mar 06 18:34:08 <HePeR> Is that because there are none, or because i'm looking at the wrong places ?
Mar 06 18:35:36 <av500> people like python
Mar 06 18:39:16 <tbr> HePeR: what is it you're trying to do?
Mar 06 18:41:56 <hitlin37> i like python, the best thing about it is readability.
Mar 06 18:42:36 * hitlin37 thinks hard not to think like c when coding in python.
Mar 06 18:49:03 <HePeR> tbr: (eventually) i'm going to be able to control the IO's from a remote android device
Mar 06 18:50:12 <HePeR> tbr: it'll involve a small app, php webservices, mysql (that does not run as root)
Mar 06 18:50:56 <HePeR> tbr: the python/c++/... script will poll the sql-table and set/read the io's according to whats in the dbase
Mar 06 18:53:14 <HePeR> but, i'm lazy and would prefer to use some allready existing libraries, because inventing the wheel (again) is silly
Mar 06 19:06:04 <patrick_overhere> Help (BBB newbie here) ...after flashing new angstrom image to new BBB, I plug the board in to my Linux computer (via USB cable) and it doesn't even show up as a device in /dev/ (or via "lsusb").)
Mar 06 19:06:54 <patrick_overhere> Anyone have any thoughts as to what's going on?
Mar 06 19:33:30 <MatthieuG> Hi!
Mar 06 19:33:51 <MatthieuG> Where kernel config file is stored in yocto ?
Mar 06 19:34:36 <MatthieuG> I built the angstrom console-image with bitbake and I need to check the kernel configuration
Mar 06 19:52:19 <MatthieuG> I would like to boot my BBB from NFS, but I get a kernel panic
Mar 06 19:52:27 <MatthieuG> here the full log :http://pastebin.com/KLiYiPfY
Mar 06 19:52:47 <MatthieuG> I tested the nfs from my ubuntu host
Mar 06 19:52:52 <MatthieuG> it works
Mar 06 19:53:04 <MatthieuG> but my bbb cannot mount it
Mar 06 19:53:34 <MatthieuG> I check the kernel config (MACHINE="beaglebone" bitbake virtual/kernel -c menuconfig)
Mar 06 19:53:51 <MatthieuG> the nfsroot support is enabled
Mar 06 19:54:19 <MatthieuG> what I'm doing wrong ?
Mar 06 20:01:27 <panoramix> hey, does anyone know when the audio cape revB will be available? do I have to contact a distributor in europe to get it in europe or are there plans to ship it to some european distributor?
Mar 06 20:53:15 <prpplague> panoramix: revB audio is in production now and will be available via board zoo in two weeks, and some distributors in three weeks
Mar 06 20:53:47 <panoramix> thanks prpplague, do you know if any of those other distributors is european?
Mar 06 20:54:35 <prpplague> panoramix: i don't have a list handy of which distributors have placed purchase orders
Mar 06 20:55:10 <panoramix> if there are no european ones right now, do i have to contact one myself and ask them to place an order?
Mar 06 20:57:35 <prpplague> panoramix: or just order from one of the other distributors
Mar 06 20:57:52 <panoramix> well if they need +50 euros or something just to ship it to europe
Mar 06 20:58:15 <panoramix> its not really cost effective, board zoo lists the cape at about 30 dollars right now :p
Mar 06 20:58:49 <panoramix> the "get a quote" button on board zoo says they need something like 60 euros on shipping costs
Mar 06 21:00:14 <prpplague> panoramix: usually that is for something like UPS or FedEx, the USPS is the best for international
Mar 06 21:01:47 <panoramix> here;s what boardzoo tells me:
Mar 06 21:01:47 <panoramix> Federal Express
Mar 06 21:01:47 <panoramix>  International Economy $55.52
Mar 06 21:01:47 <panoramix>  International Priority $59.54
Mar 06 21:01:47 <panoramix> United Parcel Service
Mar 06 21:01:47 <panoramix>  Worldwide Expedited $91.85
Mar 06 21:01:47 <panoramix>  Worldwide Express Saver $99.81
Mar 06 21:01:53 <panoramix>  Worldwide Express $103.35
Mar 06 21:01:53 <panoramix>  Worldwide Express Plus $147.55
Mar 06 21:02:06 <panoramix> thats for shipping & tax
Mar 06 21:07:08 <tsquar3d> So, is jkridner going to head-up the bonescript GSOC, or is someone else on it?
Mar 06 21:07:36 <jkridner> I'd likely head it up, but it would be nice to get someone like Simon Monk or others engaged.
Mar 06 21:08:04 <jkridner> might be helpful to look at some of the people developing node.js modules for BeagleBone and try to bring them in.
Mar 06 21:08:15 <jkridner> node-i2c, spi, pru, etc.
Mar 06 21:08:35 <jkridner> just look at https://www.npmjs.org/search?q=beaglebone
Mar 06 21:08:44 <jkridner> lots of developers that could be pulled in as mentors.
Mar 06 21:09:00 <tsquar3d> Well, jkridner, I would be rather interested -- I do a lot of JS and I used to teach it as a TA.
Mar 06 21:09:19 <jkridner> great! can you bring in a couple more mentors?
Mar 06 21:10:10 <prpplague> panoramix: yes like i said, if you use the USPS , that is the most economical
Mar 06 21:10:42 <tsquar3d> jkridner: Well, I am not a mentor myself -- I'm a student. But I might be able to see who is around and interested.
Mar 06 21:11:01 <jkridner> and if not around, bring them around... send them to me.
Mar 06 21:11:04 <tsquar3d> jkridner: I haven't lurked these parts much recently.
Mar 06 21:11:05 <panoramix> hm am i missing something? is usps one of those i pasted?
Mar 06 21:11:16 <panoramix> usps stands for united states post service right?
Mar 06 21:11:34 <prpplague> correct
Mar 06 21:11:35 <jkridner> tsquar3d: not everyone collaborates here... many just collaborate on github.
Mar 06 21:11:43 <jkridner> tsquar3d: especially on the node.js stuff.
Mar 06 21:11:58 <panoramix> board zoo doesnt list that one
Mar 06 21:12:07 <panoramix> unless federal express is the same thing or something
Mar 06 21:12:15 <jkridner> tsquar3d: still, might not hurt to ping on #node.js
Mar 06 21:12:59 <prpplague> panoramix: it should list it
Mar 06 21:13:09 <prpplague> panoramix: it's one of the standard options
Mar 06 21:13:17 <panoramix> i pasted everything it gave me as an option
Mar 06 21:13:22 <tsquar3d> jkridner: I was particularilly interested in the web development with bonescript -- could you possibly elaborate on that?
Mar 06 21:13:26 <prpplague> panoramix: either way there will probably be a EU vendor that will carry the board
Mar 06 21:13:28 <panoramix> (except for the pick up from store option)
Mar 06 21:13:53 <prpplague> panoramix: let me check
Mar 06 21:14:13 <panoramix> try with germany, thats what i tried
Mar 06 21:16:04 <jkridner> tsquar3d: have you read the logs on https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/beagleboard-gsoc ?
Mar 06 21:17:03 <tsquar3d> jkridner: Ah... nope, just the gsoc page.
Mar 06 21:19:26 <tsquar3d> BoneScript is so much nicer than arduino. :-p
Mar 06 21:21:08 <tsquar3d> jkridner: Do you know -- is there a library in bonescript specifically for programming MSP430s?
Mar 06 21:27:58 <jkridner> nope
Mar 06 21:28:06 <jkridner> just UART access.
Mar 06 21:28:27 <tsquar3d> jkridner: Is that something that anyone would be interested in -- at all?
Mar 06 21:28:36 <jkridner> meh
Mar 06 21:28:45 <jkridner> someone, but not many someones.
Mar 06 21:29:05 <tsquar3d> Right. Okay... just thought I would try.
Mar 06 21:29:11 <jkridner> I think programming the PRU is far more interesting for Bone users.
Mar 06 21:29:25 <jkridner> why pay for external hardware when you have faster on-board hardware?
Mar 06 21:29:56 <tsquar3d> Because the 430 is awesome. :-p
Mar 06 21:30:01 <jkridner> the physical I/O of Arduino and MSP430 is handy (higher drive capability), but driving things like motors, speakers, etc. usually need external drivers anyway.
Mar 06 21:30:16 <jkridner> well... that goes without saying. :-)
Mar 06 21:30:34 <tsquar3d> I'm just dissapointed that there are no GSOC projects with the 430.
Mar 06 21:49:12 <prpplague> panoramix: yea looks like it doesn't select USPS from the "get quote", however you can order it directly with USPS
Mar 06 21:49:22 <prpplague> panoramix: i'll follow up on this
Mar 06 21:49:34 <panoramix> thanks for your time man :)
Mar 06 21:50:02 <panoramix> i just hope that some european distributor brings it
Mar 06 21:50:08 <tsqaur3d> So -- this may sound like a silly question, but when TI calls the BeagleBone "open source" what do they mean, exactly?
Mar 06 22:00:37 <thurgood_> tsqaur3d: the design files are available and free to use or modify
Mar 06 22:00:56 <tsqaur3d> thurgood_: Okay... do you know if the same is true for the launchpad?
Mar 06 22:01:29 <thurgood_> not familiar with launchpad
Mar 06 22:03:01 <mistawright> launchpad is also by ti right?
Mar 06 22:03:12 <tsqaur3d> Yeah, it's the MSP430
Mar 06 22:03:20 <tsqaur3d> .... dev board.
Mar 06 22:04:02 <mistawright> http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Open_Source_Projects_-_MSP430
Mar 06 22:04:12 <mistawright> think that url says it all
Mar 06 22:05:24 <tsqaur3d> mistawright: Well, that can be misleading -- you might have ACCESS to the gerber files -- but can you modify them, sell them, etc.
Mar 06 23:33:47 <jerseyboy1944> My brand new Beaglebone Black would sometimes show up when plugged into USB, most often not.  Just sitting on top of the PC it would come and go as well.  After banging my head on the wall all afternoon I tried a new USB cable.  Problem solved!
Mar 06 23:39:51 <myself> Heh. When I started to read that line, my first feeling was "bad USB cable". continuing reading did not disappoint.
Mar 07 00:08:08 * dwery hates systemd in the new debian image...
Mar 07 00:13:52 <dwery> wow.. bbb stock at adafruit depleted quickly..
Mar 07 00:38:35 <myself> heh. Get in line.
Mar 07 00:45:22 <dwery> I'm in line at both rs and mouser :D
Mar 07 00:57:22 <tsqaur3d> So... is the arduino Tre dead?
Mar 07 00:58:22 <myself> 1Q isn't over yet... ;)
Mar 07 01:45:30 <rokthewok> Hi all, I just received a BBB from MakerShed (their "Getting Started" kit). I followed the instructions under the Getting Started guide on the beagleboard website and the Maker guide book, but connecting the BBB to my computer does not show a mounted filesystem. I tried this on both Ubuntu 13.10 and Windows 7. I also installed the drivers onto my PC, as the web getting started guide had suggested. Still, I cannot find the mounted h
Mar 07 01:45:40 <rokthewok> ... default webserver at 198.162.7.2
Mar 07 01:45:50 <rokthewok> Might anyone have insight?
Mar 07 01:47:37 <myself> rokthewok: do you see a network device (I think it shows up as gadget or rndis) showing up in device manager?
Mar 07 01:49:19 <rokthewok> lsusb, lspci, and mount don't show anything notable
Mar 07 01:49:31 <veremit> dmesg
Mar 07 01:51:21 <rokthewok> I can't really discern the output; want me to pastebin it?
Mar 07 01:54:33 <rokthewok> Oh, @myself gave me the keywords to look for. piping to grep with those patterns doesn't yield anything.
Mar 07 02:06:58 <myself> I'm a windows kid so when I said "device manager", I was assuming the windows host.
Mar 07 02:06:58 <rokthewok> I'm dual booting; let me jump to the other partition quick-like
Mar 07 02:06:58 <rokthewok> ah
Mar 07 02:10:37 <rokthewok> @myself Narp, no such device
Mar 07 02:17:08 <myself> rokthewok: putting a character before a nick prevents some clients from highlighting on it
Mar 07 02:17:40 <myself> rokthewok: anyway, the device not enumerating (you don't hear the do-doong device enumeration sound either, I'm guessing?) points in a useful direction, anyway.
Mar 07 02:17:57 <rokthewok> ah
Mar 07 02:18:00 <myself> rokthewok: what LED activity do you see?
Mar 07 02:18:27 <rokthewok> I see the prescribed led activity ( 0 is a heartbeat, intermittent 2 going off)
Mar 07 02:19:20 <myself> so on the linux box, lsusb before and after plugging it in shows no difference at all?
Mar 07 02:19:46 <rokthewok> narp
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