**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Mar 07 02:59:58 2014 Mar 07 05:06:39 hai everyone ...... i want to communicate between my pc and beagle through UART ....that is i want to control my module connected to beagle from pc by sending commands.....did i want to do socket programming? Mar 07 07:56:17 f/csdeop Mar 07 08:41:51 Hello everyone Mar 07 08:43:11 I'm interested in Google Summer of Code, and I'm interested in your projects Mar 07 08:43:18 Who should I talk to? Mar 07 08:43:19 ok Mar 07 08:43:22 us Mar 07 08:43:24 go on :) Mar 07 08:43:55 I'll first talk about my background a bit, so we can choose a better project Mar 07 08:44:19 I'm studying Computer Science, I'm in the middle of my bachelor Mar 07 08:44:24 I'm from Spain Mar 07 08:45:23 I program in PHP (some personal projects) Mar 07 08:45:42 in C++, Java, and asm from classes (only basic knowledge) Mar 07 08:45:53 and what I like most is C Mar 07 08:46:12 I've been working in some University projects around the development of satellites Mar 07 08:46:34 I collaborated in a newly software for the first version of the satellite over Linux Mar 07 08:47:14 and in a future version which involves Android (specifically, I'm working on modifing the Linux Kernel to enable RT capabilites) Mar 07 08:47:34 I also use Linux as my main OS (Debian) Mar 07 08:48:00 ok Mar 07 08:48:28 I've been looking the ides, and there are some very interesting Mar 07 08:50:06 For example, beaglepilot, the Generic Device Tree Creator, the remote display or hte USB boot Mar 07 09:13:05 hi Mar 07 09:39:05 av500, are you still there? Mar 07 09:40:45 yes Mar 07 09:41:36 did you subscribe to the mailing list/google group? Mar 07 09:41:41 there is also #beagle-gsoc Mar 07 09:54:18 in the web page, the IRC channel is this one, that's why I entered here Mar 07 09:54:36 I'll now subscribe to the mail list, and enter the other IRC channel Mar 07 09:54:59 np Mar 07 09:57:31 sigh.. mouser Italy got 300 orders on hold.. I guess what's happening in a larger country :( Mar 07 10:44:57 I've mounted debugfs on my am335x board, but I can't see nothing under /sys/kernel/debug/omap_mux Mar 07 10:45:05 kernel 3.14 Mar 07 10:45:41 what sould I activate in kernel to get pinmux stuff export its settings via debugfs? Mar 07 10:45:57 omap_mux is dead Mar 07 10:45:58 rip Mar 07 10:46:52 stabbed in the back Mar 07 10:48:14 is pinctrl new omap_mux? Mar 07 10:48:20 DT Mar 07 10:48:55 av500: I'm using DT already, but for some tests I'd like to see current pinmux configuration, i.e. change it on the fly Mar 07 10:50:33 I can export cat pinctrl/44e10800.pinmux/pinmux-pins, but is looks like if the GPIO0_x is missing Mar 07 10:50:48 panto: ^^ Mar 07 10:57:18 yegorich, there's no more omap_mux Mar 07 10:57:36 you can't change the pinmux via sysfs anymore Mar 07 10:57:44 there's a debug pinctrl interface Mar 07 10:57:48 Or the pin numbers in the pinctrl/44e10800.pinmux/pinmux-pins don't correspond to GPIO numbers Mar 07 10:58:11 they don't map IIRC Mar 07 10:58:22 panto: O.K. I see Mar 07 10:59:58 then it explains everything. The problem is in schematics pins are numbered as K18, R1 and so on and the other reference were GPIO numbers, but when it doesn't map ..... Mar 07 13:11:10 hi Mar 07 13:13:02 i'm not able to connect to beaglebone black on 192.168.7.2. i have run the mkudevrule.sh and added all rules. I found that vendorId and productid in script is different than one written in script. still unable to connect. please help Mar 07 13:18:51 Was there ever a Dreamcast Emulator for the Black? Mar 07 13:25:43 can you share project about comunication serial in beaglebone? Mar 07 13:27:27 hooi Mar 07 13:27:33 can you help me Mar 07 14:04:04 AFAIK am335x has 3 MMC interfacces, but in the am33xx.dtsi they seem to be numbered mmc1, mmc2, mmc3 instead of mmc0, mmc1, mmc2 as by uarts or i2c interfaces. Am I correct in my assumption? Mar 07 14:08:14 I'm running the BBB from battery.. is there a way to tell the PMIC to do a power on when VDD5V comes up? Mar 07 14:15:35 dwery: external circuitry? Mar 07 14:17:01 av500: Just a battery and a regulator + 232 transceiver Mar 07 14:17:28 no I mean, add some circuitry Mar 07 14:17:33 that presses power-ON Mar 07 14:17:55 av500: ah ok. yes, sure, that was my first option, but wanted to now if there were an alternative Mar 07 14:18:04 like configuring the PMIC to do it Mar 07 14:19:19 no idea Mar 07 14:19:38 I know the omap PMICs hat all kinds of tricks they could do Mar 07 14:29:32 ok, will check the docs. ty Mar 07 15:27:51 how to install java in bbb (arch linux)? Mar 07 15:43:34 BOO Mar 07 15:43:39 RASPBERRY PI BETTER Mar 07 15:43:42 BEAGLE MADE IN CHINA Mar 07 15:44:00 s/CHINA/USA Mar 07 15:44:16 hehe, I'm IN the building where we make them right now. Mar 07 15:44:18 PiIsBetter: BeagleBone Black is made in Richardson, TX, USA Mar 07 15:44:33 hi carpman, have we met? Mar 07 15:44:37 Pretty sure I lived in Texas, last time I checked. Mar 07 15:44:55 jkridner: maybe? I think you came over once while I was here. Mar 07 15:45:18 Oh do they come with free red necks? Mar 07 15:45:19 With guns? Mar 07 15:45:32 Do you get a angry redneck when you open it pointing a shot gun at you? Mar 07 15:45:33 LOL Mar 07 15:45:41 * carpman pokes av500 Mar 07 15:46:37 [kernel] RobertCNelson pushed 1 new commit to 3.13: http://git.io/VUNzAw Mar 07 15:46:37 kernel/3.13 09e8a29 Robert Nelson: 3.13: add static capes... Mar 07 15:47:54 Well to be fair, at least 1 thing is made in USA. Never seen anything made in USA before. Mar 07 15:50:05 there are many things made in USA Mar 07 15:50:11 not all of them are good Mar 07 15:50:33 some things are best when they come from switzerland, e.g. chocolate Mar 07 15:50:38 (tottally civilised duscussion is go) Mar 07 15:50:54 What else is made in the USA? Mar 07 15:51:25 burgers? Mar 07 15:51:26 House of Cards Mar 07 15:51:29 I personally like Cadburys but hey whatever floats your boat Mar 07 15:51:29 poisenous stuff like hersheys Mar 07 15:51:32 House of Cards is a British show Mar 07 15:51:47 RaspberryPiIsBet: isn't the Pi made in China? Mar 07 15:51:51 nOPE Mar 07 15:51:52 UK Mar 07 15:52:08 http://crave.cnet.co.uk/desktops/raspberry-pi-microcomputer-reaches-1-million-made-in-uk-50012435/ Mar 07 15:52:10 <_av500_> sony factory Mar 07 15:52:15 ? Mar 07 15:52:23 _av500_, +1 Mar 07 15:52:28 designed in UK, made in china Mar 07 15:52:32 Nope Mar 07 15:52:36 Made in the UK Mar 07 15:52:42 <_av500_> they are made in the UK too now Mar 07 15:52:45 <_av500_> 1st batch was china Mar 07 15:52:53 oh, I stand corrected Mar 07 15:53:20 75% currently made in UK. All new Raspberry Pi's are made in UK, Only the first batches were made in the China factory Mar 07 15:53:50 carpman: still in the building? can I bribe you to get some? :D Mar 07 15:53:55 RaspberryPiIsBet: oh, so you come one here spouting FUD about the bone, which happens to be not true for the bone, but true for at least 25% of the PI. I see. Mar 07 15:54:18 25% of original Mar 07 15:54:31 RaspberryPiIsBet: well 0% of the bones were made in China Mar 07 15:54:40 Except the chips..ext...ext Mar 07 15:54:46 RaspberryPiIsBet: shouldn't you be in class? Mar 07 15:54:59 making stuff in china is not all bad. Mar 07 15:54:59 <_av500_> class is onver in the UK Mar 07 15:55:05 its just sometimes bad Mar 07 15:55:13 I hope you aren't suggesting the chips on the PI were made in the UK :) Mar 07 15:55:21 Haha, No I actually should be working. Mar 07 15:55:28 <_av500_> carpman: fish & chips Mar 07 15:55:29 What OS does this beagle board run? What distro? Mar 07 15:55:35 <_av500_> several Mar 07 15:55:41 Which is default then. Mar 07 15:55:46 Angstrom, debian, ubuntu. Angstrom is default. Mar 07 15:55:58 <_av500_> arch, gentoo Mar 07 15:55:59 carpman: no man, it was all made in the UK, copper was even mined there, and the petroleum to make the PCB, and even the pixie dust was squeezed from fairies right in the UK plant. Mar 07 15:56:14 <_av500_> android Mar 07 15:56:17 [kernel] RobertCNelson pushed 1 new commit to 3.13: http://git.io/8Djuaw Mar 07 15:56:17 kernel/3.13 8a550aa Robert Nelson: 3.13: doh!... Mar 07 15:56:22 <_av500_> windowsCE Mar 07 15:56:40 Ubuntu = british Mar 07 15:56:44 <_av500_> right Mar 07 15:56:52 ubuntu = multinational Mar 07 15:56:56 <_av500_> south african Mar 07 15:57:00 Nope Mar 07 15:57:02 <_av500_> which is a former colony Mar 07 15:57:08 British Company, South African founder. Mar 07 15:57:22 Using debian as an upstream, which is a multinational effort. Mar 07 15:57:33 <_av500_> whole discussion is pointless Mar 07 15:57:38 indeed Mar 07 15:57:57 ÷ Mar 07 15:58:02 carpman: don't you know that the only thing that matters in a distro is the guy who presses the CD? The rest is just plumbing Mar 07 15:58:05 Founder of Debian is Europian Mar 07 15:58:25 so what? Mar 07 15:59:00 RaspberryPiIsBet: so not British then Mar 07 15:59:10 Close enough Mar 07 15:59:22 I don't think that's the way it works Mar 07 15:59:26 Germany, started a war with us over empire. Beat em' twice. Mar 07 15:59:39 All by yourselves too Mar 07 15:59:39 <_av500_> third time worked though Mar 07 15:59:49 ++ Mar 07 15:59:51 I need a small computer to do image processing for my masters thesis. I mainly use MATLAB but can code it in C++. Would the Beagle Board be able to handle it? Mar 07 15:59:59 <_av500_> depends Mar 07 16:00:13 Well we dragged the empire into it. Mar 07 16:00:14 mdr270_: .. on the processing power required Mar 07 16:00:18 can you run it on a netbook? good rule of thumb. Mar 07 16:00:26 RaspberryPiIsBet: i feel the ban boot is coming Mar 07 16:00:35 Canaada, Australlia, New Zealand, ext Mar 07 16:00:41 I don't just feel it, I see it. :P Mar 07 16:01:00 I'm assuming the Beagleboard would be better than the Raspberry Pi because the BB has better processing power Mar 07 16:01:01 RaspberryPiIsBet, the ban-hammer never sets on the British empire Mar 07 16:01:08 <_av500_> mdr270_: yes Mar 07 16:01:12 <_av500_> that much is true Mar 07 16:01:13 america was once a colony, so BBB is produced in UK Mar 07 16:01:23 <_av500_> but it still has way less cpu power then your PC Mar 07 16:01:28 <_av500_> than* Mar 07 16:01:46 carpman: Texas was never a colony ;) Mar 07 16:02:05 <_av500_> wasnt it a kingdom? Mar 07 16:02:06 alan_o: hush! i'm making incorrect and useless points! Mar 07 16:02:10 Except that whole city called The Colony, TX Mar 07 16:02:20 http://www.ci.the-colony.tx.us/ Mar 07 16:02:29 <_av500_> I hope the "y" never falls off the city limits sign Mar 07 16:02:42 they glued it back on really well last time Mar 07 16:02:42 _av500_: it would be FAR FAR more acurate if it did. Mar 07 16:02:47 * carpman dislikes the colony Mar 07 16:03:11 Texas was a spanish colony. Mar 07 16:03:29 Most of America was British collonies though. Mar 07 16:03:39 RaspberryPiIsBet: Most? Mar 07 16:03:51 east cost != most Mar 07 16:03:52 RaspberryPiIsBet: is that by land mass? Mar 07 16:03:58 even if it rymes Mar 07 16:04:12 The highest amount owned by a single country Mar 07 16:04:14 If I'm not mistaken Mar 07 16:04:20 Spain once had half of the world, and now we are nearly bankrupt Mar 07 16:04:20 carpman: hey, not _all_ the east coast :) Mar 07 16:04:36 Nearly as much as Britain, or even more Mar 07 16:04:36 RaspberryPiIsBet: more than the part we bought from the USSR? Mar 07 16:04:51 <_av500_> markmb: england has russian money, you dont Mar 07 16:05:00 We had more then half of the wrold Mar 07 16:05:07 <_av500_> and still crap food Mar 07 16:05:11 RaspberryPiIsBet: how'd that work out for you? Mar 07 16:05:17 Pretty well. Mar 07 16:05:22 SCOTTISH RULE FOR SCOTLAND! Mar 07 16:05:26 Oh great Mar 07 16:05:35 Yeah the Royal Bank of Scotland will move to England Mar 07 16:05:40 if you become independent Mar 07 16:05:40 [kernel] RobertCNelson pushed 1 new commit to 3.13: http://git.io/a-C9EA Mar 07 16:05:40 kernel/3.13 a3ef9bd Robert Nelson: 3.13: merge: https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel/pull/89... Mar 07 16:05:58 Let's not forget....your not independent. You still want THE POUND, THE QUEEN, AND CEEBEEBIES Mar 07 16:06:05 [kernel] RobertCNelson pushed 1 new commit to 3.13: http://git.io/_4IjFw Mar 07 16:06:06 kernel/3.13 c1d19d5 Robert Nelson: 3.13: merge: https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel/pull/89... Mar 07 16:06:17 YOUR NOT INDEPENDENT. YOUR DEPENDENT. All it is is a SCAM to get your OFFICIALS more MONEY Mar 07 16:06:22 SCOTLAND can run on whiskey and shortbread. Mar 07 16:06:26 [kernel] RobertCNelson closed pull request #89: Ported PRU related patches from 3.12 branch to 3.13 (3.13...3.13) http://git.io/zOhzHg Mar 07 16:07:14 KotH: don't feed the trolls Mar 07 16:07:24 mint is not meant to be used with beef! Mar 07 16:07:24 not even with chocolate? Mar 07 16:07:30 RaspberryPiIsBet: just about all of them. Mar 07 16:07:31 and, Android, Gentoo, Arch, Fedora, ... Mar 07 16:07:31 RaspberryPiIsBet: you mean South African? Mar 07 16:07:32 * jkridner guesses you mean the owner of Canonical Mar 07 16:07:32 Mark seems to list London as the headquarters address: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canonical_Ltd. Mar 07 16:07:33 * jkridner wonders how he got sucked into this. Mar 07 16:07:33 why do we let these things work? Mar 07 16:07:33 this is a dumb conversation. Mar 07 16:07:37 * jkridner is about done with xenophbia Mar 07 16:07:38 consider everyone warned. Mar 07 16:13:32 [kernel] RobertCNelson pushed 1 new commit to 3.13: http://git.io/V5SE4w Mar 07 16:13:32 kernel/3.13 ad5bacd Robert Nelson: 3.13: update to v3.13.6... Mar 07 16:23:21 The ban hammer never sets on the British Empire. Mar 07 16:23:21 Lol Mar 07 16:26:17 So so so Mar 07 16:27:15 derppp Mar 07 16:46:32 any user of rt2800usb here? Mar 07 16:59:37 morning Mar 07 17:02:42 dwery: a wifi dongle? Mar 07 17:03:18 hi Abhishek__ Mar 07 17:05:21 jkridner: yes. got a few problems.. it seems the famous keep-dongle-away-from-the-bb thing Mar 07 17:07:09 do you have a USB extender you can use? Mar 07 17:07:50 jkridner: I just attached one and it is performing quite better than before Mar 07 17:07:58 dwery: something like http://www.amazon.com/6in-USB-Extension-Adapter-Cable/dp/B000E5CYW8 Mar 07 17:08:31 RFI always amazes me Mar 07 17:22:56 jkridner: ty Mar 07 17:37:47 Hi All. I am having a nightmare of a time running ejre on bbb running ubuntu 13.04. Anyone done this? Mar 07 17:44:11 anyone? Mar 07 18:12:34 Does there exist a disassembler for PRU .bin firmware? Mar 07 18:21:02 Does anyone know how much power is needed to run a relatively idle BBB (without any external adapters?). I'm shopping for solar panels. Mar 07 18:26:57 iandow: that depends entirely on your OS and processes. It can be tricky to measure because current can be drawn in short spikes, but measuring its runtime on a known battery, or measuring the heat generated by a series resistor, might work. Mar 07 18:27:37 myself: ok thanks. I'm thinking voltaicsystems.com has a good setup, but expensive Mar 07 18:36:48 wow. adafruit sold out of BBB in one day Mar 07 18:37:41 I had to wait 2-3 weeks on preorder for my BBB to arrive Mar 07 18:42:27 It's not like it's the next generation iphone... wtf Mar 07 18:42:50 <_av500_> iphones are a-plenty Mar 07 18:42:58 not in russia Mar 07 18:43:20 <_av500_> all sold to crimea Mar 07 18:43:27 lol Mar 07 18:43:37 what do you do when the troll has an @ on his name? heh. Mar 07 18:56:04 myself: you even out the battlefield ;) Mar 07 18:56:19 oh no Mar 07 18:56:28 ok, then not Mar 07 18:56:31 I guess you don't yet know better than to op me... lmao Mar 07 19:51:20 keeee-rap, that little Samtec header for the JTAG connection is expensive. Mar 07 19:52:10 It was suggested that we stock them in the i3detroit lab, since the same one is used on the stellaris boards and a few other things. but not at four bucks apiece.. Mar 07 19:52:36 <_av500_> which one is it? Mar 07 19:52:48 So I'm new to all things 1.27mm, and wondering if there's a cheap equivalent familiar to folks here Mar 07 19:52:51 http://www.elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack#Optional_JTAG Mar 07 19:53:01 P2 is a Samtec FTR-110-03-G-D-06 connector and can be purchased from Samtec or any of their distributors. Mar 07 19:53:07 http://octopart.com/ftr-110-03-g-d-06-samtec-11604216 Mar 07 19:54:24 <_av500_> ah Mar 07 19:54:26 <_av500_> smd part Mar 07 19:54:43 <_av500_> probably you can take a normal pin through part and solder it on the pcb Mar 07 19:56:33 yeah, but then I'm in a maze of twisty little part descriptions, all confusingly similar Mar 07 19:56:39 there would however be a danger of ripping apart the tracks should a normal part be soldered upright Mar 07 19:57:56 <_av500_> nah Mar 07 19:58:03 <_av500_> i'll hold Mar 07 19:58:23 <_av500_> myself: 1.27mm grid, 2.54mm apart Mar 07 19:58:27 <_av500_> any will do Mar 07 19:58:50 thats huge Mar 07 20:00:32 <_av500_> what kind of jtag has this connector anyway? Mar 07 20:00:41 <_av500_> on the other side Mar 07 20:01:00 <_av500_> might as well solder a few wires to a std 2.54mm header Mar 07 20:02:28 why jtag anyway? Mar 07 20:02:43 <_av500_> why not Mar 07 20:02:44 http://www.ebay.com/itm/181152348370 Mar 07 20:02:47 done and done Mar 07 20:03:01 <_av500_> myself: these arre 1.27x1.27 Mar 07 20:03:03 <_av500_> are Mar 07 20:03:15 I know, matey Mar 07 20:03:23 <_av500_> aye cap'n Mar 07 20:56:23 does the beagleboard have ttl levels on the rs232 port Mar 07 20:56:29 <_av500_> no Mar 07 20:56:35 <_av500_> well yes Mar 07 20:56:37 <_av500_> 3.3V TTL Mar 07 20:56:39 +-5 or +-12 Mar 07 20:56:42 <_av500_> no Mar 07 20:56:50 <_av500_> 0 and 3.3V Mar 07 20:56:55 ok cool Mar 07 20:57:21 can you just attach a normal dsub port like for a pc mainboard Mar 07 20:57:30 or does it have a special pinout Mar 07 20:58:33 <_av500_> special Mar 07 20:58:46 <_av500_> it matches e.g. the sparkfun usb2serial thingies Mar 07 20:58:59 <_av500_> a normal dsub implies RS232 levels Mar 07 20:59:03 <_av500_> +/- 5V Mar 07 20:59:08 <_av500_> which is wrong here Mar 07 20:59:10 right Mar 07 20:59:18 I have a bus pirate, it should work Mar 07 21:01:51 why doesn't it just have a serial port onmm the OTG port though T_T Mar 07 21:04:10 <_av500_> it does ETH and MSC over USB Mar 07 21:04:15 <_av500_> not sure for serial Mar 07 21:04:26 <_av500_> but it can be done of course Mar 07 21:04:47 <_av500_> you can ssh into it just as fine Mar 07 21:05:29 if it boots! Mar 07 21:07:24 what is the default speed of the serial line? 115200? Mar 07 21:08:19 <_av500_> if it does not boot, serial over usb does not work Mar 07 21:08:30 I mean on the physical port Mar 07 21:08:42 <_av500_> the BBW had an FTDI Mar 07 21:08:45 <_av500_> the BBB does not Mar 07 21:08:50 <_av500_> thus you need the converter Mar 07 21:08:58 <_av500_> yes, I would like the FTDI too Mar 07 21:09:00 <_av500_> :( Mar 07 21:09:01 beagleboard c3 Mar 07 21:09:16 <_av500_> C3 had no usb serial Mar 07 21:09:19 <_av500_> just serial Mar 07 21:09:22 yes Mar 07 21:09:27 what is the speed Mar 07 21:09:31 <_av500_> 115200 Mar 07 21:09:35 depends on boot flags? Mar 07 21:09:38 ok thanks Mar 07 21:09:44 <_av500_> until you change it Mar 07 21:09:48 what does that mean bbb has no ftdi? Mar 07 21:09:52 no usb serial? Mar 07 21:09:56 <_av500_> yes Mar 07 21:10:04 fffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu Mar 07 21:10:04 <_av500_> thus you need a usb2seral Mar 07 21:10:11 <_av500_> $3 from china Mar 07 21:10:12 why :( Mar 07 21:10:15 <_av500_> :( Mar 07 21:10:19 <_av500_> price Mar 07 21:19:05 those bbb blue leds are crazy Mar 07 21:19:49 there is no way one can keep that on table for dev purposes Mar 07 21:20:22 nail polish Mar 07 21:20:42 i put some paper on power led Mar 07 21:20:49 quick fix Mar 07 21:21:38 if you turn all of a5a leds on you can use that as flashlight Mar 07 21:23:56 Heyho, i have some trouble with the USB-port on my BBB - I read there are some issues regarding USB hot plugging ... is this true/still a thing? Or is there a workaround? I have to reboot the BBB 5-6 times on avg to get my bluetooth dongle working. (found this on the web ---> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18754699/usb-bluetooth-dongle-isnt-recognized-by-beaglebone-black) Mar 07 21:25:07 hmm all status leds glow steady Mar 07 21:25:12 good sign or bad sign Mar 07 21:26:29 depens on what you did Mar 07 21:28:17 just power on the thing. I have ubuntu on a 32gig sd card Mar 07 21:28:30 I got some output on the serial line earlier Mar 07 21:28:41 but it was garbled. wrong baud rate probably Mar 07 21:28:47 no idea, never ran ubuntu on it Mar 07 21:39:13 i would be really happy if future revs use different color leds on board Mar 07 21:39:35 that would be actually useful Mar 07 21:39:40 you can always swap them out, it'd be a fun project Mar 07 21:39:52 or just get a bacon board Mar 07 21:40:08 power is still on and blue Mar 07 21:40:46 http://boardzoo.com/index.php/beaglebone-black/beaglebone-bacon.html#.Uxo8yx_iG7c Mar 07 21:43:45 hi folks, has anybody tried ubuntu on their BB and managed to get kernel source on there too? Mar 07 21:43:46 http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu Mar 07 21:46:08 hm I can see the beagleboard logo over hdmi Mar 07 21:47:41 what happens if I unplug power with hdmi connected Mar 07 21:47:59 the hw guide says to first connect the hdmi then power Mar 07 21:48:04 whats the reason for that Mar 07 21:54:40 Russ: right now it's whole different problem... it's easy to add things... however if you want to take things *OFF*... Mar 07 21:55:47 two irons or hot air usually Mar 07 21:55:56 although the blob method is always possible Mar 07 21:55:56 :P Mar 07 21:56:07 blob off smd led, hmm Mar 07 21:56:19 what about one iron with "fork" Mar 07 21:56:31 just add enough solder so the blob engulfs the led Mar 07 21:56:44 just be careful that the blob doesn't roll onto the rest of the board Mar 07 21:57:10 actually the led isn't that small there Mar 07 21:57:22 they look like 0603s to me Mar 07 21:58:44 SMD leds like to melt before the solder does. Mar 07 21:59:06 well yes, but if the goal is to remove it, that's ok Mar 07 21:59:40 Blob method gors better with ChipQuik in my experience Mar 07 21:59:45 goes, rather Mar 07 22:00:05 indeed, i don't have any other tools... i can only blob Mar 07 22:01:32 (and wick) Mar 07 22:03:09 is there a known problem of the beagleboard with microsd cards in adaptors Mar 07 22:07:04 there are adapters? Mar 07 22:09:48 i could use sd to microsd adapter here... Mar 07 22:10:01 lot of sd cards, no boards to fit them in Mar 07 22:10:09 anyone bought the BB View Cape from Element 14? Mar 07 22:21:59 heeen: in which direction? Mar 07 22:22:48 Stock BBB, I'm having trouble charging a battery if the device is not on (ie, shutdown -h). If power is applied, the battery is charged. Has anyone worked around this issue? Mar 07 22:22:55 Do I need to reprogram the PMIC in some fashion? Mar 07 22:26:18 what kind of battery? Mar 07 22:39:26 hello folks... I have a REV A3 Beaglebone. The microSD card was lost and I'm trying to make a new one now Mar 07 22:39:30 been having a load of troubles Mar 07 22:40:06 just using tar to write to a fresh sd card per the instructions on the angstrom website doesn't give me a working system Mar 07 22:40:14 I can get into U-Boot Mar 07 22:40:45 Here is the output to the console: http://hastebin.com/yuqaluvoxi.hs Mar 07 22:41:42 I'm not sure where to go from here Mar 07 22:51:07 what are my options if i wanted to get analog video input on the BBB? Mar 07 22:51:44 say, composite video for example Mar 07 22:55:26 great, the one time i decided to speak, the connection drops :D Mar 07 22:56:39 ds2: its not in front of me, but its a little lipo Mar 07 22:56:56 ds2: I mean, I can charge it if the device is powered on, but if the device is powered off, no charge. Mar 07 22:57:25 photex: what OS are you on? Mar 07 22:57:39 photex: and what sdcard image did you download? Mar 07 22:59:51 s5fs: I'm using Linux. I have an OSX machine available as well. I tried this image: Angstrom-Cloud9-IDE-GNOME-eglibc-ipk-v2012.12-beaglebone-2013.09.05.img.xz Mar 07 23:00:07 s5fs: I've also tried the latest ArchLinux Mar 07 23:08:43 photex: okay and how is the sdcard formatted currently? Mar 07 23:09:52 1) 64Mb FAT 2) 7.*Gb ext4 Mar 07 23:09:59 just used fdisk Mar 07 23:10:04 photex: you wanna re-flash the eMMC storage, correct? Mar 07 23:10:12 not just make an sdcard that you can boot from Mar 07 23:10:33 This is the white beagle board, does that apply here? Mar 07 23:10:40 I thought that was just a BBB issue Mar 07 23:10:56 sorry Mar 07 23:10:58 white beaglebone Mar 07 23:10:59 oh shoot, sorry. i only know the BBB Mar 07 23:11:07 drat Mar 07 23:11:16 what are you calling "powered off"? Mar 07 23:11:22 well in taht case there's nothing onboard to flash, right? don't you just run the OS from teh sdcard with the white? Mar 07 23:11:30 I'm worried the beagling world has moved on without me now Mar 07 23:11:39 ds2: initiate shutdown -h as root. the power led goes off. Mar 07 23:11:43 s5fs: yep.. but that doesn't appear to work Mar 07 23:11:53 photex: okay i think we've got a path forward Mar 07 23:12:00 photex: do you know dd? Mar 07 23:12:05 certainly Mar 07 23:12:51 photex: okay so you basically wanna just unpack that .img file you listed earlier, then run df if=Angstrom-blah-.img of=/dev/sdcard/path bs=10M Mar 07 23:13:36 photex: has this been attempted? also, have you tried a different sdcard? Mar 07 23:14:51 I did try that with two different cards, but not with bs=10M Mar 07 23:14:58 so I'll give that a try now Mar 07 23:15:18 photex: block size shouldn't matter honestly Mar 07 23:15:49 photex: your hastebin makes it look like the bootloader (?) can't find the partition it needs, but i'm not sure if it means the fat or the ext4 partition Mar 07 23:15:59 it mentions uEnv.txt so I'm assuming it can't find the ext4 partition but honestly i dunno Mar 07 23:18:09 uEnv.txt and u-boot.img are on the same partition Mar 07 23:18:25 look at the bootlog carefully .. and make sure you compile fs support into the kernel! ;) Mar 07 23:19:38 s5fs: check ur pmic settings... is this a BBB or BBW? Mar 07 23:22:24 ds2: BBB Mar 07 23:23:38 ds2: here is the sequence of events: https://gist.github.com/aulvi/70bf9fa6b5d0d135f82e Mar 07 23:23:43 (its short, i promise) Mar 07 23:27:02 hm if I connect the serial tx of the beagleboard to the rx line of an arduino shouldn't that work just like a usb-serial conv Mar 07 23:29:50 wow, kicking myself for not ordering a BBB from ada this morning Mar 07 23:29:54 they had 55 units Mar 07 23:29:57 heeen.. connect tx/tx and rx/rx you can (ab)use the USB converter Mar 07 23:30:01 thought I'd have until the evening Mar 07 23:30:04 if you see it .. ORDER IT Mar 07 23:30:10 seriously Mar 07 23:30:13 it's NOT gonna be in stock unless you SEE it is. Mar 07 23:30:16 * photex learned the hard way Mar 07 23:30:19 demand is MASSIVE Mar 07 23:30:24 supply is TINY Mar 07 23:31:02 why is the supply so tiny given all the demand though? Mar 07 23:31:14 manufacuting caacity Mar 07 23:31:15 or is it a big surprise? Mar 07 23:31:19 ah Mar 07 23:31:25 they wont sub out the design Mar 07 23:31:41 unlike the Pi, etc. :) Mar 07 23:31:57 I'm only getting garbage :( Mar 07 23:32:33 heeen.. consider a usb debug cable .. it's well worth it ... 5v and 3v3 if you can findn one Mar 07 23:37:24 heeen: you can get the cables for about $8 on amazon Mar 07 23:40:12 hmmm Mar 07 23:40:50 photex: yeah, you gotta jump on those purchases. seems like adafruit's notification email thingy is slow, I ordered a couple days ago. Mar 07 23:49:47 those cables also contain ft232rl Mar 07 23:50:00 so I don't get why what I have here doesn't work Mar 07 23:51:48 whoa Mar 07 23:51:54 I get something Mar 07 23:52:03 I had to change receive polarity Mar 08 00:34:09 yay s5fs that last dd worked Mar 08 00:34:14 I haz Angstrom prompt Mar 08 00:34:15 photex: sweet, glad to hear it Mar 08 00:34:27 now to set everything back up again :/ Mar 08 00:34:30 haha Mar 08 00:34:33 reverse the if and of to back the card up Mar 08 00:34:56 sudo dd if=/dev/my/sd/card of=Ansgtrom-backup.img bs=10M Mar 08 00:34:59 that kinda thing Mar 08 00:36:09 good call Mar 08 00:39:47 hrm... usb networking... there isn't much about configuring that on the Getting Started guide Mar 08 00:40:07 it's been a long time since I did any of this, and mostly just used ethernet Mar 08 01:07:13 hrm... ok, so it only seems to come up when using external power Mar 08 01:07:20 * photex gives up Mar 08 01:10:42 blerg, ok, this sdcard must also be bad... now it wont boot.... U-Boot complains that it can't read from the second partition again Mar 08 01:11:23 right back to the same error Mar 08 01:11:35 oh no, this time: bad MBR sector signature 0x3a8f Mar 08 01:19:02 Im having an issue with ubuntu armhf, where the bbb randomly doesnt get an IP address on reboot. Mar 08 01:19:06 why does this happen?! Mar 08 01:25:36 if I'm using a beaglebone as a linux box, I'm going to need ARM builds of all the software I want to run, right? Mar 08 01:28:21 pretty much Mar 08 01:29:44 is qemu a viable option then for software that doesn't support ARM or would that be incredibly slow? Mar 08 01:45:24 Hmmm. You woul probably do better building a crosscompiler setup.. Mar 08 01:46:40 yeah looks like you're right Mar 08 01:47:07 thanks Mar 08 01:55:29