**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Mar 15 02:59:58 2014 Mar 15 03:15:38 hey all, was sent here with a pretty specific request. was told that the beagleboard should be able to do it, but figured I'd ask here Mar 15 03:15:57 basically looking to have a board that can act as a boot device/os device inside a media server Mar 15 03:16:19 so run the os, and other software leaving the sata drives to just storage Mar 15 03:16:23 anyone have any insight? Mar 15 03:19:19 enlighter: It doesn't have a sata port, if that's what you're asking.. Mar 15 03:19:29 I don't think I understand the question though. Mar 15 03:20:10 usually "boot device" means "the medium from which a system reads its boot files", and I can't figure out why you'd want a beaglebone to act as a storage medium for something else, so I think I misunderstand. Mar 15 03:21:19 basically I am trying to find something Mar 15 03:21:26 that can act as a boot drive Mar 15 03:21:30 for my media server Mar 15 03:21:39 as my motherboard only have 4 sata slots Mar 15 03:21:53 so looking for something I can use outside of those Mar 15 03:22:01 to boot the os and run software Mar 15 03:22:14 apologies for not describing it very well Mar 15 03:22:33 so something similar to the usb flash module that synology uses Mar 15 03:23:04 might be barking up the wrong tree, but was told the beagleboard might have the capabilites to do this Mar 15 03:24:00 It can act as a USB device, but I don't know enough about the software stack to know if it can act as a USB mass-storage device. I assume so. Mar 15 03:24:28 but I'm not clear why you wouldn't simply boot from a USB flash stick. What advantage do you want from having the sectors served up by an intelligent device? Mar 15 03:24:51 I am really just looking for something I can plug in internally Mar 15 03:24:58 vs an external usb Mar 15 03:25:17 doesn't have to be an intelligent board, just doing all the research I can Mar 15 03:25:43 ...where would you plug in the beagleboard? Mar 15 03:25:51 I'm sure your motherboard has internal USB pins.. Mar 15 03:26:15 http://store.mp3car.com/USB_A_female_to_motherboard_header_adapter_p/CBL-062.htm? Mar 15 03:27:20 it does have internal usb Mar 15 03:27:37 wasn't sure if I could plug into that or not Mar 15 03:27:43 thanks for the link Mar 15 03:27:51 Well no, ordinarily internal USB ports are for brewing. Mar 15 03:28:01 Plugging USB devices into them is ancillary to their beer-making function. Mar 15 03:28:01 right Mar 15 03:28:10 lol Mar 15 03:28:58 But it's known to work quite well, as evidenced by the multiple such ports provided on most boards. You can only do the hops-and-mash thing with a single port, you see, the others are for USB devices. Mar 15 03:30:03 so the internal ports could be used to run a usb stick as a boot device? Mar 15 03:32:29 again apologies for the silly questions, pretty new to this Mar 15 03:32:36 just educating myself Mar 15 03:33:31 more like vice versa :) Mar 15 03:41:07 wonder what kind of speeds usb 3 would provide as a boot device Mar 15 03:41:25 wish there was something easier out there similar to what synology has set up Mar 15 03:41:33 but they also have millions into their products haha Mar 15 03:41:40 i am just trying to do a 1 off :: ) Mar 15 03:46:35 bbb has usb2 ports, not 3, anyway Mar 15 03:47:08 yeah I guess synology uses internal usb headers Mar 15 03:47:20 in combo with samsung NAND flash Mar 15 03:47:25 "1GB Samsung SLC NAND flash chip attached to one of the internal USB headers." Mar 15 04:27:54 Hi. I'm trying to use OSX Lion to connect to my BeagleBone (not Black) via USB. I can see the drive, but I can't connect via the browser. I've installed both drivers specified on the Gett Started page. Any suggestions? Mar 15 04:31:03 Sorry, I'm not on Lion. I'm on Mavericks. Mar 15 04:32:23 exit Mar 15 05:39:43 so another silly question for anyone still around Mar 15 05:39:57 I know you can run an OS from a usb drive, can you also install programs to it though? Mar 15 05:40:07 like let's say I want to install xbmc or plex Mar 15 05:40:14 to the usb drive that also hosts the os Mar 15 05:40:28 is that feasible? or would it just be stupid Mar 15 05:41:07 feel like I already know the answer, which I believe is yes, but again this is new territory to me Mar 15 05:47:26 enlighter: you can't boot directly from USB, you need to handle u-boot and kernel either on SD or eMMC Mar 15 05:47:50 but once you've booted, it's just another storage Mar 15 05:51:31 tbr: on the raspberry pi you can have the initial boot on an SD but then have it load (and mount?) the OS from usb, like a usb hdd for example. and it sees the usb as the only drive on the system... is this not possible on the BB? (sorry if my description sucks..... im fairly new to linux and this stuff) Mar 15 05:52:11 Dan: "handle u-boot and kernel either on SD or eMMC" - guess what that means Mar 15 05:52:50 ahh right.. like i said im fairly new to all this so terminology is beyond me most of the time :) Mar 15 05:54:12 it means, the SoCs mask-ROM-boot-loader will find MLO on eMMC (or SD), load that, that loads U-Boot, that loads kernel. The kernel has all drivers and can then decide to have it's rootfs on a USB-stick or USB-drive Mar 15 05:54:33 or on a network drive, or whatever Mar 15 05:54:55 (actually you can fully net-boot the BBB too I think) Mar 15 06:07:08 so how does synology achieve it then Mar 15 06:07:18 they have nand flash that boots from on board USB Mar 15 06:08:47 yes, it is possible for USB root Mar 15 06:23:49 enlighter: synology doesn't seem to use TI Sitara in any of their products, so how would you compare that? Mar 15 07:44:31 * _av500_ boots (slowly) Mar 15 07:59:32 _av500_: not using UEFI/ACPI then? Mar 15 08:05:44 _av500_: plug in some more coffee Mar 15 12:00:23 Hi, i was intersted in one of 2 projects the CNC controller and peripherels documentation of the BBB so i made a proposal for the CNC controller found here https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/beagleboard-gsoc/aPBeOo9DCWg and would like to know which one would be of higher priority to the mentor organization and intersted in having feedback on my proposa Mar 15 12:00:31 #gsoc Mar 15 12:23:13 hi, i want to explore device-trees on my bbb. there is no dtb in /boot but there are a couple of in /boot/uboot/dtbs. there is one called 'am335-boneblack.dtb'. Is that the one that is beeing used? Mar 15 12:23:58 or more direct: how do i find the dtb that my system uses? Mar 15 12:52:16 hey guys , what sort of processor i could use along with beagle board for sha 256 hashing? Mar 15 12:53:18 trying to set up a mining cluster? Mar 15 12:59:47 KotH: yeah Mar 15 12:59:59 i have bit of hardware knowledge... Mar 15 13:00:09 need someplace to start Mar 15 13:02:09 get a pile of those ASICs, hook them up to the board, ... profit! Mar 15 13:03:11 (fine print: profit as in profit for the producer of your shovel, aka the ASICs) Mar 15 13:06:23 tbr: which asics? Mar 15 13:06:39 any specific asic you would recommend? Mar 15 13:06:48 * tbr knows nothing about bitcoin Mar 15 13:07:04 you'll have more luck in a bitcoin oriented community Mar 15 13:07:38 just regard the BBB as a linux computer with USB and many UARTs Mar 15 13:08:08 as I doubt those will use SPI, SDIO or I²C Mar 15 19:48:37 <_av500_> these days one does not mine personally any more Mar 15 19:48:43 <_av500_> you just buy shares in a minimg ppol Mar 15 19:49:15 probability of hitting a block is too low unless yo have a large hashing power Mar 15 19:49:48 pfft you destroy all the romanticism Mar 15 19:50:06 the rewards aren't exactly huge currently either Mar 15 19:50:20 buying shares instead of going to the mountains with a virtual donkey, pickaxe and shovel ... Mar 15 19:50:22 but .. thats 'currently' .. who know where it wil go Mar 15 19:51:37 its quite fun exploring new coins and stuff .. Mar 15 19:51:49 just don't expect large short-term rewards .. Mar 15 19:58:59 experience shows, those selling the shovels fare better Mar 15 19:59:43 :) Mar 15 20:00:33 when life gives you lemons? or snow ... ?! lol Mar 15 20:24:17 is the guy who wrote Bad to the Bone in here? Mar 15 20:47:22 George Thorogood ? Mar 15 20:53:41 I'm talking about the book Mar 15 20:53:53 Bad to the Bone: Crafting Electronics Systems with Beaglebone and BeagleBone Black Mar 15 20:54:41 ah, not the song :) Mar 15 21:28:22 so who here loves dodi Mar 15 21:28:43 i hate dogs Mar 15 22:03:26 <_Aqua> heya, has anyone had any luck getting an SSD1963 based LCD screen going on the BBB? Mar 15 22:05:57 _Aqua: don't ask to ask, just ask! What step are you getting stuck at, what have you tried, etc? Mar 15 22:07:16 <_Aqua> well, I am still waiting for the LCD to show up in the mail, just doing preliminary research as it doesn't seem to known how to get it working yet. I have 3.12 kernel going with SGX enabled, hoping to get it working with hardware accelleration and QT 5.2.1. Mar 15 22:55:46 i'm trying to work out what spi mode i should be using, as per https://github.com/adafruit/adafruit-beaglebone-io-python/blob/master/source/spimodule.c#L669 any idea where i would find doco on that? I'm looking in the CPU's reference manual but having trouble finding a relevant section Mar 15 23:02:20 For ethernet network access to a stock BBB, what is the username and password? Mar 15 23:02:50 root Mar 15 23:02:55 empty Mar 15 23:04:08 JFK911: thanks! Mar 15 23:04:40 What protocol is that using? It doesn't look like it is samba.... Mar 15 23:04:59 I'm accessing using linux mint16 Mar 15 23:05:01 <_Aqua> ssh Mar 15 23:05:34 how does it show up in the network view of Nemo/Nautilus? Mar 15 23:05:55 <_Aqua> opkg install samba ~ if you want samba support, gotta edit the /etc/samba/smb.conf accordingly Mar 15 23:06:04 by default it probably doesn't, unless you've set up samba or similar Mar 15 23:06:26 I haven't set up samba, but it showed up in Network and I can see the file system. Mar 15 23:07:32 It was not under Windows Network - just had it's own icon that said beaglebone Mar 15 23:07:59 <_Aqua> if you are plugged in via usb, it will automount the fat32 drive on the beaglebone. Mar 15 23:08:11 Nope, just ethernet! Mar 15 23:08:31 It's at beaglebone.local Mar 15 23:08:55 oh you found it with avahi stuff Mar 15 23:09:00 maybe avahi or something? I don't know enough about that. Mar 15 23:09:02 find the ip and ssh there. Mar 15 23:09:26 ah! that's pretty neat. Mar 15 23:09:41 if you're going to keep reflashing your bbb, find his mac and give him a static address from dhcp Mar 15 23:10:08 I haven't done anything except boot it so far. Mar 15 23:10:28 static might be good though Mar 15 23:11:11 yeah i have 'started over' with mine a few times and would rather keep the thing out of the dynamic address pool Mar 16 00:28:41 hey guys Mar 16 01:37:23 why does the lastest bbbk debian img have eth0commented out in /etc/network/interfaces? Mar 16 01:42:34 anyone? beuhler? Mar 16 01:59:45 Hi, sorry for offtopic but is there anyone with an OMAP5 board willing to help me out here? Mar 16 02:43:01 I don't have an omap5 but ask anyway Mar 16 02:43:07 kristina, Mar 16 02:44:25 BobCat: http://crna.cc/DOp7ebOMfKcK28A Mar 16 02:45:08 (i said it on #linux-omap) Mar 16 02:46:02 i have no idea what's causing this Mar 16 02:47:07 it's hard to fully explain this without seeing it first hand Mar 16 02:47:13 but it does make you say "wtf" Mar 16 02:47:25 looks like fun kristina good luck Mar 16 02:48:16 interesting, and I am no help **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Mar 16 02:59:59 2014