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Mar 25 03:09:27 <IgorC76> Has anyone gotten 3d graphics acceleration to work in angstrom for beagle bone black ?
Mar 25 03:50:43 <beagle13> Is it possible to run a bluetooth scatternet using beaglebone, if bluetooth is enabled in beaglebone...
Mar 25 04:41:59 <Dan1> (11:57:41 AM) spikebike: Any opinions on driving something like this: http://www.amazon.com/SainSmart-4-CH-4-Channel-Relay-Module/dp/B0057OC5O8 ? <------- im in the process of doing exactly that but with an 8 relay board. already had it working on a raspberry pi
Mar 25 04:48:30 <Dan1> spikebike: this is the board im using.  http://www.banggood.com/5V-8-Channel-Relay-Module-Board-For-Arduino-PIC-AVR-DSP-ARM-p-74110.html
Mar 25 05:29:25 <sayantan> hi
Mar 25 05:29:52 <sayantan> anybody there?
Mar 25 05:35:24 <_av500_> yes
Mar 25 06:51:25 <k-man> what's the recommended way to do wifi roaming with the BBB, with debian installed?
Mar 25 06:56:44 <k-man> is there a bug tracker for debian on the BBB?
Mar 25 07:20:12 <spikebike> Dan1: do you have any specs on it?
Mar 25 07:20:40 <Dan1> not really. anything in particular you mean?
Mar 25 07:21:01 <spikebike> well BBB GPIO is 3.3V not 5, right?
Mar 25 07:21:12 <spikebike> the URL claims 5.
Mar 25 07:21:30 <spikebike> to to mention similar parts claim it needs 20-10 ma
Mar 25 07:21:34 <spikebike> 10 to 20
Mar 25 07:26:00 <Dan1> yea that worried me as well (needing 5v)
Mar 25 07:26:16 <Dan1> but ive had it working off 3.3v on the RPi
Mar 25 07:26:58 <Dan1> but with the ones you linked they have 2 separate circuits separated by an optical coupler
Mar 25 07:27:28 <Dan1> so you run 3.3v to the optical side which is what is switched by the BBB
Mar 25 07:27:41 <Dan1> and you run 5v to the relays to switch them
Mar 25 07:27:48 <spikebike> right, but doesn't even an optical coupler require 10-20ma?
Mar 25 07:27:49 <Dan1> if that makes sense...
Mar 25 07:27:53 <spikebike> and the cute little led
Mar 25 07:28:39 <Dan1> im really not sure on what it needs, ive just seen plenty of other examples of it working
Mar 25 07:28:51 <spikebike> yeah, me to
Mar 25 07:29:06 <spikebike> at least long enough for a blog post
Mar 25 07:29:10 <Dan1> http://yourduino.com/p/OptoRelayChannelData-575.jpg
Mar 25 07:29:12 <Dan1> haha yea
Mar 25 07:29:13 <spikebike> not so sure if it's going to last a year or two
Mar 25 07:29:35 <Dan1> ive not had mine running more than minutes so far but so far no issue on the RPi
Mar 25 07:29:42 <spikebike> I want to be nice (as in, within spec) to my BBB
Mar 25 07:29:54 <Dan1> ill tell ya in a year or 2's time i guess?
Mar 25 07:31:33 <spikebike> do you get a spurious relay close on boot?
Mar 25 07:32:07 <Dan1> ive no idea on the software side of things at the moment
Mar 25 07:32:20 <Dan1> im still building my addon board with other sensors etc
Mar 25 07:32:56 <spikebike> ah.  Yeah hoping to control a garage door, an attic fan, and maybe a sprinkler
Mar 25 07:33:19 <Dan1> mines going to be controlling my fishfarm :)
Mar 25 07:34:09 <spikebike> ah, heh
Mar 25 07:34:22 <spikebike> heaters and pumps and things?
Mar 25 07:34:47 <Dan1> turning pumps and otehr things on and off as needed, eventually once i learn to program automatically according to temps etc
Mar 25 07:34:51 <Dan1> yup
Mar 25 07:35:22 <Dan1> so i have ds1820 thermometers and light sensors to connect to the BBB
Mar 25 07:35:39 <spikebike> heh, yeah, I'm planning on similar
Mar 25 07:35:45 <Dan1> at the moment im using a RPi but its only collecting temps and emailing me if something needs attention
Mar 25 07:35:52 <spikebike> looking at 10 packs of pre-cables 1820's on ebay
Mar 25 07:36:12 <Dan1> or ask for free samples from maxim ;)
Mar 25 07:36:26 <spikebike> I want to control the attic relay based on attic temp, indoor temp, outdoor temp, and if I'm in cool mode (summer) or heat mode (winter)
Mar 25 07:36:33 <Dan1> but the pre wired/sealed ones are nice
Mar 25 07:36:38 <spikebike> heh, they are $2 each or so, not worth asking
Mar 25 07:36:46 <spikebike> yeah, those are $2
Mar 25 07:37:17 <Dan1> once im over this project ill be getting some of those as well for something else im planning
Mar 25 07:37:39 <Dan1> but im kinda a "worry about one thing at a time" sorta guy
Mar 25 07:41:07 <spikebike> I'd like to measure power use of the larger motors in the house... duty cycle or peak current
Mar 25 07:41:28 <Dan1> just doing some quick reading.... seems the switching side only uses 2.5mw @ 5v (im guessing it would be more @3.3v but im not much good with all those electronic conversons)
Mar 25 07:42:20 <Dan1> and it dosnt matter how much the relays side uses caus thats just getting power from your 5V psu
Mar 25 07:42:37 <spikebike> cool, sounds promising, guess I'll just buy and try
Mar 25 07:43:06 <Dan1> which makes sense to me caus all its doing is turning on an led in the opticoupler
Mar 25 07:43:51 <Dan1> oh, yea on this http://yourduino.com/p/OptoRelayChannelData-575.jpg
Mar 25 07:44:05 <Dan1> it says 2.0mA on the in0 line
Mar 25 07:44:14 <Dan1> which is the one that comes back to be switched by the BBB
Mar 25 07:44:58 <spikebike> ah, even more promising, cool, thanks
Mar 25 07:45:04 <Dan1> so yea, WAY under the 10-20mA
Mar 25 07:45:54 <Dan1> and if you hook it up to the 5v pins on the BBB it only gets power when you have the round 5V connector plugged in... it wont use the usb power
Mar 25 07:46:11 <spikebike> yeah, that is the plan
Mar 25 07:46:12 <Dan1> so yea, all safe to use :)
Mar 25 07:46:30 <Dan1> (you did have me a little worried at first caus i never did my homework on tha tbefore jumping in)
Mar 25 07:50:54 <Dan1> spikebike: in case your even remotely interested... this is what ive got so far https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Hn89SS_HVAU/UzE1Eg9yjxI/AAAAAAAACS8/LAv5jSpU6Sc/w845-h634-no/IMG_20140325_181843.jpg
Mar 25 07:51:25 <Dan1> stuff on the left of the BBB is for the thermo and light, 8 way on the right is for the relays
Mar 25 07:52:19 <spikebike> cool
Mar 25 07:52:45 <Dan1> obviously with plenty of room later on if i wana add other stuff
Mar 25 07:53:46 <spikebike> so the BBB is under the board on the left?
Mar 25 07:53:58 <Dan1> yup
Mar 25 07:54:08 <spikebike> where does the rainbow relay cable go?
Mar 25 07:54:36 <Dan1> i still gotat put the other end on the cable
Mar 25 07:54:54 <Dan1> but it will go to the BBB where the empty plug is now
Mar 25 07:55:03 <spikebike> ah, cool
Mar 25 07:55:07 <Dan1> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ZVRQLrtmWUY/Uy680UW1ybI/AAAAAAAACQ0/bZl1QZqvxyo/w845-h634-no/IMG_20140323_212037.jpg
Mar 25 07:55:49 <spikebike> did that rainbow cable come with the relay board?
Mar 25 07:56:05 <Dan1> nah i bought it from a local electronics shop
Mar 25 07:56:33 <Dan1> same with the proto board and all the connectors
Mar 25 07:56:58 <Dan1> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-D20ihH5_wY0/Uy65QtRGCmI/AAAAAAAACQM/UFAy8npYXdw/w845-h634-no/IMG_20140323_210513.jpg
Mar 25 07:57:21 <Dan1> thats the underside of the board as of a couple days ago with a thermo already attached (mostly just to test)
Mar 25 07:57:22 <spikebike> yeah, I'd like to do similar, just have to decide if 4 relays is enough or 8
Mar 25 07:57:36 <Dan1> its not much more to just get 8
Mar 25 07:57:41 <Dan1> which is why i went 8
Mar 25 07:58:04 <Dan1> and i have a nasty habit of finding uses for somethings once i get em
Mar 25 07:58:18 <spikebike> thus the 10 pack of 1820s ;-)
Mar 25 07:58:26 <Dan1> :)
Mar 25 07:59:40 <Dan1> that banggood place i linked you to ive bought a heap of stuff from before too, seem quite good
Mar 25 07:59:50 <Dan1> even had warranty claims with no problems
Mar 25 08:01:54 <spikebike> good to know thanks
Mar 25 08:02:26 <spikebike> I think the unknowns are quickly disappearing, close to a final parts list, and I'm starting to get optimistic it might even work
Mar 25 08:02:39 <Dan1> haha
Mar 25 08:02:51 <Dan1> its the programming side that worries me
Mar 25 08:04:09 <spikebike> that I'm not worried about tons of uber simple GPIO code out there
Mar 25 08:04:30 <spikebike> hell you could write some useful stuff in a shell script
Mar 25 08:05:19 <Dan1> ive not done any programming since school...... and that was many decades ago....
Mar 25 08:06:09 <spikebike> it's way easier than decades ago
Mar 25 08:06:44 <Dan1> yea i just have to sit down once i have the hardware side sorted out and do some reading
Mar 25 08:07:06 <Dan1> im still trying to work out reliably which gpio's are and arent already used
Mar 25 08:07:14 <spikebike> http://inspire.logicsupply.com/p/project-5.html
Mar 25 08:07:18 <Dan1> caus there seems like a lot of misinformation out there so far
Mar 25 08:07:24 <CyberAssassin> oi
Mar 25 08:07:40 <Dan1> o.O
Mar 25 08:07:59 <spikebike> value = b.analogRead(analogPin);
Mar 25 08:08:05 <spikebike> if (value > 1000) b.digitalWrite(ledGreen,b.HIGH);
Mar 25 08:08:16 <spikebike> fairly straight forward stuff
Mar 25 08:08:50 * Dan1 makes note of that 
Mar 25 08:08:51 <Dan1> :)
Mar 25 08:09:05 <spikebike> similar for digital in
Mar 25 08:09:34 <spikebike> if GPIO.input("P8_14"): print("HIGH")
Mar 25 08:09:35 <spikebike> else: print("LOW")
Mar 25 08:10:05 <CyberAssassin> Anybody know of a list of uses for a beaglebone black? Been searching for quite some time, haven't been able to find a decent list. Instructables has some good examples.
Mar 25 08:10:24 <spikebike> CyberAssassin: a list of what it can't do would be easier ;-)
Mar 25 08:10:34 <Dan1> that list would be quite extensive CyberAssassin
Mar 25 08:10:50 <Dan1> spikebike: hehe yup
Mar 25 08:11:11 <spikebike> I mean seriously, it's got enough GPIO to do some pretty crazy stuff
Mar 25 08:11:26 <Dan1> CyberAssassin: it is only limited by what you can dream up
Mar 25 08:12:03 <CyberAssassin> I have one that I use as an SSH server to host an irssi client so I never have to disconnect from IRC. I just don't know what else to do with it.
Mar 25 08:12:24 <spikebike> well it's cheap/low power, ssh works
Mar 25 08:12:46 <spikebike> but it's mostly specialized for reading/writing analog/digital via it's numerous GPIO pins
Mar 25 08:14:31 <CyberAssassin> I could do an apache server or a samba share.
Mar 25 08:15:31 <spikebike> personally I'd spend a few more $ to get more ram/cores if I wanted an apache server or samba share
Mar 25 08:15:40 <spikebike> not that it wouldn't work
Mar 25 08:15:54 <CyberAssassin> Too hold a one or two page site it wouldn't be terrible for Apache.
Mar 25 08:16:02 <spikebike> some of the nicer arm boards skip the GPIO but add more ram/cpu
Mar 25 08:16:04 <KotH> .o0(what's with all that technical discussion this morning?)
Mar 25 08:16:14 <av500> so confusing
Mar 25 08:16:17 <spikebike> heh
Mar 25 08:16:28 <av500> low flying facts
Mar 25 08:19:37 <Dan1> CyberAssassin: im running cacti off mine to log temps and email me when things get out of spec
Mar 25 08:23:25 <CyberAssassin> Hmm, that's not a bad idea.
Mar 25 08:23:49 <CyberAssassin> That would be cool to develop a game on the black, but the reads/writes would kill the damn sd card.
Mar 25 08:23:56 <av500> nah
Mar 25 08:24:08 <av500> we tried hard to kill SD cards
Mar 25 08:24:14 <av500> we could not
Mar 25 08:24:28 <CyberAssassin> Hmm, cool.
Mar 25 08:24:41 <av500> and even if you kill it, pops a $4 new one
Mar 25 08:24:44 <av500> -s
Mar 25 08:25:00 <CyberAssassin> I may have to consider that.
Mar 25 08:25:22 <av500> it's not like we tried to treat floppies carefully
Mar 25 08:26:27 <CyberAssassin> lol 5.25 or 3.5?
Mar 25 08:30:04 <CyberAssassin> Do some Java Game Development on the black, I might have to try that.
Mar 25 08:43:05 <KotH> av500: i still have working floppies at home
Mar 25 08:43:22 <KotH> av500: and i treated them nicely!
Mar 25 08:43:42 * KotH will probably keep them for his grand grand children
Mar 25 08:49:02 <philenotfound> KotH: them poor kids
Mar 25 08:51:42 * Dan1 has c64 floppys in the spare room somewhere 
Mar 25 09:20:41 <KotH> philenotfound: if i dont show them that stuff, they will never believe we had black/white tv
Mar 25 09:20:50 <KotH> philenotfound: or even wrote mails by hand
Mar 25 09:26:14 <av500> KotH: yes, treat them nicely, but not be afraid to actually "use" them
Mar 25 09:34:29 <KotH> av500: verbrauchsmaterial
Mar 25 09:35:40 <KotH> av500: it think it's a psychological issue. sdcards are electronics. electronics are (were) expensive. you had to go to special shops to buy them. while floppies were more or less dumb, mechanical objects that you could buy at the stationary
Mar 25 09:40:40 <av500> KotH: I can buy sdcards at the stationary
Mar 25 09:41:03 * KotH has home delivery
Mar 25 09:41:59 <Rotti> hi!
Mar 25 09:43:16 <av500> ¡lo
Mar 25 09:43:34 <thow> gnd
Mar 25 10:42:46 <hedz09> Hey guys, is there a kernel version for the BBB that supports EGL/GLES ?
Mar 25 10:43:31 <tbr> rumor has it that SGX is working on the latest 3.13 or 3.10 kernel. I haven't tried though.
Mar 25 12:05:10 <droidicus> I have been using a beaglebone for a while, and am interested in getting more involved with the open source side of things. Where is a good place to look for this kind of information?
Mar 25 12:11:22 <av500> hmm
Mar 25 12:19:20 <mazzoo> droidicus: did you enhance or fix things? or add a new feature? this is a good start to send patches or pull requests to developers
Mar 25 12:19:55 <mazzoo> droidicus: in general its hard to say, as there run dozens of standalone SW projects on a BBB
Mar 25 12:20:23 <mazzoo> droidicus: or u just want to compile yourself?
Mar 25 13:55:17 <mago__> hello
Mar 25 13:55:59 <mago__> I wanna know the value of the pull-up/down resistors at the P8-P9 headers of the beaglebone black
Mar 25 13:56:46 <av500> there are none
Mar 25 13:57:00 <av500> also, see the schematics
Mar 25 13:57:52 <mago__> I didn't find it on the schematic
Mar 25 14:00:32 <mazzoo> mago__: there are SW controllable PU/PD resistors. failed to find the value so far either =(
Mar 25 14:01:42 <mago__> ={
Mar 25 14:02:24 <mago__> thanks for trying man!
Mar 25 14:46:01 <mistawright> I have got some questions. I plan on using a arduino nano in conjunction with a ps2 controller as a transmitter using an apc220 rf module which creates a seamless serial communication. Am I able to control the beaglebone black through serial and there by use the transmitter to control my rc car powered by a beaglebone black
Mar 25 14:48:06 <av500> sorry, I dont understand
Mar 25 14:50:48 <Rotti> mistawright: you mean:   PS2-keyboard ----- Arduino -- apc220 -- ))))  RF  (((( apc220 ---- uart of bone
Mar 25 14:50:48 <Rotti> ?
Mar 25 14:51:33 <av500> in this case, the answer is: "yes, the beableboard has an UART"
Mar 25 14:51:38 <av500> and it can be used
Mar 25 14:53:08 <mistawright> Rotti, playstation 2 dualshock controller
Mar 25 14:53:48 <Rotti> okay, if you can decode the keys, then the answer would probably still be yes
Mar 25 14:56:09 <Rotti> of course you still have to control the car by software (i.e. pwm: servos or just simple pwm onto an h-bridge or similar)
Mar 25 14:56:18 <Rotti> but this works fine, have been doing this
Mar 25 15:02:53 <mistawright> Rotti, I bought an hbridge after getting annoyed with the motorshield i have for my arduino nano, not sure if i damaged it. So I bought this guy: http://www.ebay.com/itm/111244913779?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Mar 25 15:03:48 <mistawright> At this point I need to learn how to decipher what will be sent through serial and how to properly interpret that data to control the hbridge
Mar 25 15:04:04 <Rotti> mistawright: are 3.3v enough on the inputs?
Mar 25 15:04:37 <Rotti> you should have a look at the datasheet of the l298n
Mar 25 15:04:38 <mistawright> Rotti, I was reading and seeing that it should be, if not I do have a logic level converter and may end up purchasing more
Mar 25 15:05:08 <Rotti> okay
Mar 25 15:06:55 <mistawright> Is there anything out there that would facilitate the sending and receiving of data using c++ for the beaglebone black?
Mar 25 15:16:23 <julesvernr> nothing special mistawright
Mar 25 15:16:29 <julesvernr> there’s a million ways
Mar 25 15:16:48 <julesvernr> serial, tcp sockets, anything
Mar 25 15:19:01 <av500> code
Mar 25 15:19:09 <av500> one could write code
Mar 25 15:19:25 <mistawright> lol
Mar 25 15:19:37 <mistawright> yeah thats whats gonna happen
Mar 25 15:23:09 <Rotti> mistawright: basically, just open /dev/ttySx, do some fcntl() magic to configure the port, then you can read() and write()
Mar 25 15:28:33 <av500> mistawright: also, remove "for the beaglebone" from your question and instead add "for a Linux PC"
Mar 25 15:29:13 <mistawright> not sure if I will actually need to write any data back. may need to see about sending a hearbeat or something back to the controller so it can blink an led or something to show activity
Mar 25 15:29:57 <milad> hi, does anybody know how to backup my preformatted sd card?
Mar 25 15:30:17 <milad> it has ti linux on it and i'm in ubuntu 12.04
Mar 25 15:31:21 <myself> milad: I think 'dd' is the command you want to learn.
Mar 25 15:31:49 <myself> beware, dd is a great way to hose your disk if you're not careful. Do lots of reading and understand the options.
Mar 25 15:34:46 <milad> tnx. is there a problem that linux mounts my sd card as /dev/mmcblk0p0 ?
Mar 25 15:35:17 <av500> before you backup the card, spend $5 on a second one
Mar 25 15:36:41 <milad> tnx for your financial answer
Mar 25 15:37:36 <Rotti> mistawright: if you have the possibility, do it... and it is a bad idea to turn the motors on and wait for a command via rf to turn them off... is most cases, near the next wall, hole, child, abyss, ..., there won't be no rf connection ;)
Mar 25 15:39:18 <myself> yeah, having a few spare microsd cards is always prudent.
Mar 25 15:41:50 <pthomas> anyone running a mainline kernel?
Mar 25 15:43:33 <milad> anyone works with chipsee 7 inch?
Mar 25 15:53:34 <iandow> Does anyone know if its possible to hibernate an Angstrom beaglebone for a specified amount of time, so that it automatically wakes up?
Mar 25 15:53:55 <Conguito> Hello Peoplo
Mar 25 15:54:19 <Conguito> i found a BeagleBoard XM RevB in subway
Mar 25 15:54:40 <Conguito> i'm try to make it run
Mar 25 15:54:48 <Conguito> but i'm a little lost
Mar 25 15:55:10 <Conguito> i found that the first thing to do is upgrade to U-Boot right ?
Mar 25 15:55:21 <myself> what's it doing now?
Mar 25 15:57:04 <Conguito> suck in a rainbow image in television
Mar 25 15:57:14 <Conguito> kind of rainbow image
Mar 25 15:59:06 <mazzoo> Conguito: sounds like video init. if it shows a full palette. uSD-card? or internal eMMC?
Mar 25 15:59:20 <mazzoo> Conguito: for debugging get a 3V3 UART cable
Mar 25 16:04:41 <Conguito> i use a sdcard
Mar 25 16:05:04 <Conguito> i have a uart cable
Mar 25 16:05:09 <Conguito> ebay one
Mar 25 16:05:18 <mazzoo> ah, that model ;P
Mar 25 16:06:03 <mazzoo> no errors on console?
Mar 25 16:06:36 <Conguito> http://goo.gl/AcDw2N
Mar 25 16:06:57 <Conguito> i don't connect it already
Mar 25 16:07:05 <Conguito> i don't know the pinout
Mar 25 16:07:58 <av500> the XM needs serial line levels, not TTL
Mar 25 16:08:35 <Conguito> av500, i need to create a cable? and connect to the rs232 port ?
Mar 25 16:08:54 <Conguito> rs232(pc) to rs232(xm) ???
Mar 25 16:09:18 <myself> ahh, the miracle of new cables being created
Mar 25 16:09:30 <myself> you see, when a male connector and a female connector love each other very much...
Mar 25 16:09:46 <Conguito> what !?!
Mar 25 16:10:01 <Conguito> strange english, english is not my first language
Mar 25 16:10:06 <Conguito> i'm from Portugal
Mar 25 16:10:14 <myself> (I'm making a joke, ignore me.)
Mar 25 16:11:21 <av500> http://www.hamradioexpress.com/catalog/images/usb2sc.jpg
Mar 25 16:11:28 <av500> Conguito: you need something like this: ^^^
Mar 25 16:11:37 <av500> or, if your PC has a real serial port, just a cable
Mar 25 16:12:47 <Conguito> i have the 2 thinks
Mar 25 16:12:55 <Conguito> old laptor with rs232 com1 port
Mar 25 16:13:04 <Conguito> and a usb to r232
Mar 25 16:13:25 <Conguito> but i need a pin-to-pin r232 cable our a null modem ?
Mar 25 16:15:37 <mazzoo> av500: what are you saying? he'll brick his bbb with rs232 levels
Mar 25 16:16:33 <mazzoo> his cable is not that bad, except 5V != 3V3
Mar 25 16:17:11 <av500> no, the BBXM has RS232 levels
Mar 25 16:17:24 <av500> +/5V or so
Mar 25 16:17:28 <av500> at least
Mar 25 16:17:37 <av500> he might brick his TTL cable
Mar 25 16:17:55 <mazzoo> wait
Mar 25 16:17:56 <Conguito> my ttl cable have 3v3 and 5v
Mar 25 16:18:24 <Conguito> http://goo.gl/AcDw2N
Mar 25 16:18:30 * av500 waits
Mar 25 16:19:03 <Conguito> http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/3/5/4/6/7/2/webimg/684192769_o.jpg
Mar 25 16:19:08 <mazzoo> UART0 / J1 needs 3V3 levels
Mar 25 16:19:21 <mazzoo> maybe its 5V tolerant, need to look up
Mar 25 16:19:53 <mazzoo> av500: but what u propose is rs232, which is +/- 12V (or atleast sth > 7V)
Mar 25 16:20:22 <mazzoo> and yes, +/- means negative voltages, your bbb won't like it
Mar 25 16:20:47 <mdp> http://i.imgur.com/GOUBLSf.jpg
Mar 25 16:21:02 <mazzoo> Conguito: what voltage levels are on TXD
Mar 25 16:21:07 <av500> [16:52] <Conguito> i found a BeagleBoard XM RevB in subway
Mar 25 16:21:11 <av500> BBXM
Mar 25 16:21:13 <av500> not BBB
Mar 25 16:21:22 <mazzoo> *ducks*
Mar 25 16:21:45 <mazzoo> uhm, thought the wohle world is like mine, full of BBB
Mar 25 16:21:48 <mazzoo> av500: sorry
Mar 25 16:21:55 <Conguito> BeagleBoard-xM  Revision B
Mar 25 16:22:08 <av500> you are in a twisty maze of beagleboards, not all alike
Mar 25 16:22:59 <Conguito> i read on internet about that, apear to nice
Mar 25 16:23:07 <Conguito> to be nice
Mar 25 16:24:13 <Conguito> 4.18 RS232 DB9 Connector
Mar 25 16:24:51 <Conguito> Support for RS232 via UART3 is provided by DB9 connector on the BeagleBoard for access to an onboard RS232 transceiver. A USB to Serial cable can be plugged directly into the Beagle. Unlike on the original version of the Beagle, a straight through non null modem cable is required. The cable you used on the BeagleBoard will NOT work on the –xM version. A standard male to female straight DB9 cable may be used or you can use a USB to 
Mar 25 16:25:31 <Conguito> -xM use a direct cable
Mar 25 16:25:39 <Conguito> or a usb-to-rs232
Mar 25 16:25:40 <av500> see
Mar 25 16:25:44 <av500> its all there
Mar 25 16:25:47 <Conguito> nice!!!
Mar 25 16:26:02 <salaet> Hi
Mar 25 16:26:33 <mazzoo> salaet: hey
Mar 25 16:26:45 <salaet> Anybody knows where is the uEnv.txt?
Mar 25 16:26:53 <salaet> normaly...
Mar 25 16:26:59 <mazzoo> Conguito: sorry, forget all I said, I was on the BBBlack
Mar 25 16:27:10 <Rotti> `find` does, salaet ;)
Mar 25 16:27:16 <Rotti> somewhere in /boot, iirc
Mar 25 16:27:48 <salaet> but its necessary to do the procedure like adafruit? -> mount etc..
Mar 25 16:28:05 <salaet> I disable HDMI but impossible to enable on boot serial port 4
Mar 25 16:32:45 <salaet> solved! :)
Mar 25 17:51:47 <jkridner> hopefully BeagleBot will disappear less now. configured it to restart every day with a crontab
Mar 25 17:58:33 <kcube> hey guys,
Mar 25 17:59:48 <kcube>  I was trying to port linux on beaglebone and as it wass not booting from sd card I have deleted MLO file from the thumb drive after that am not able to boot the beaglebone...
Mar 25 18:00:05 <kcube> can you pls tell me how I can copy the MLO back
Mar 25 18:00:15 <kcube> Now it is not even detecting the thumb driver
Mar 25 18:00:18 <kcube> *drive
Mar 25 18:26:48 <syrioosh> Does s-video works on beagleboard xm with ubuntu 13.10 (images from wiki)
Mar 25 18:27:23 <syrioosh> kernel 3.13.3
Mar 25 19:06:22 <dwery> anyone remembers the command to tell capemgr to remove a cape on the fly? echo something >.../slots ?
Mar 25 19:07:31 <alexanderhiam> dwery: echo -x > .../slots (where x is the slot number it's loaded in)
Mar 25 19:08:03 <dwery> alexanderhiam: segfault :D
Mar 25 19:08:10 <dwery> Maybe I'm running an older kernel..
Mar 25 19:08:40 <alexanderhiam> yup that happens, buggy capemgr
Mar 25 19:08:50 <alexanderhiam> depens on what modules the overlay enables
Mar 25 19:08:55 <alexanderhiam> *depends
Mar 25 19:08:57 <dwery> do you know if it has been fixed in a more recent version?
Mar 25 19:09:20 <alexanderhiam> not that I know of...
Mar 25 19:09:21 <awozniak_> I want to read the CONTROL.CONTROL_DEVCONF register.  Is it available in /sys/kernel/debug anywhere?  Is there any other way to read that register (short of recompiling the kernel)?
Mar 25 19:10:05 <dwery> alexanderhiam: k, thanks!
Mar 25 19:38:28 <andres_> Hello, I built a board really similar to beagleboard rev4 from scratch. (buy the components, manufacture it, design the layers..etc) After some problems I finally got a “40W” in the terminal connected to UART3. I could not boot from SDCard because, despite the voltage in VMMC1 is 3V, the voltages in the other SDCard's pins are not correct. All the DAT[0-3] pins have 0.5 V, CMD = 0.5 V and the other pins have 0 V.
Mar 25 19:38:40 <andres_> After check the voltages in a real beagleboard I found that DAT[0-3] and CMD are 3V. I have been searching a lot but I could not find why my voltage values are wrong. Does someone know something about it? (Maybe the original beagleboards come with a different pins state-after-reset (pull-down or something) than the OMAP3530 bought directly???) Really thanks.
Mar 25 19:41:29 <_av500_> checked the sysboot pins?
Mar 25 19:41:54 <_av500_> andres_: what PMIC?
Mar 25 19:41:59 <_av500_> and really omap3530?
Mar 25 19:42:04 <_av500_> not 3730?
Mar 25 19:42:57 <andres_> Yes, the sysbootpins  are the same as the original beagleboard but with the "do not insert" resistors inserted (that was a design fail)
Mar 25 19:43:10 <andres_> Yes, it is an OMAP3530, the board was built in 2009
Mar 25 19:43:22 <_av500_> ah
Mar 25 19:43:31 <_av500_> and you waited 4 ys to boot it?
Mar 25 19:44:04 <andres_> designed in 2009, assembled in 2012, repairing hardware problems in 2013
Mar 25 19:44:23 <andres_> and got the 40W in 2014 ;P
Mar 25 19:44:35 <_av500_> you have patience
Mar 25 19:44:42 <_av500_> the mmc voltage is from the PMIC
Mar 25 19:44:55 <_av500_> VMMC1
Mar 25 19:45:24 <andres_> you mean TPS6595?
Mar 25 19:45:29 <_av500_> yes
Mar 25 19:46:44 <_av500_> VMMC1_OUT LDO 1.85, 2.85, 3.0, 3.15 V 3% 220 mA
Mar 25 19:47:14 <andres_> Yes, , but the part of MMC1, (VMMC1) is done appart with a source. I have 3V in VMCC1 (that goes to the card and to the OMAP3530), and I get 0.5 V in DAT[0-3] pins
Mar 25 19:47:39 <andres_> so I am not using TPS65950 for the voltage of mmc1
Mar 25 19:47:40 <_av500_> ok
Mar 25 19:48:32 <andres_> I am asking because seems strange that all the pins in MMC have 0.5 V, and maybe it is a problem of pin configuration inside OMAP
Mar 25 19:49:10 <_av500_> if your sysboot is the same as BB it should work
Mar 25 19:49:17 <_av500_> do you see activity on the pins?
Mar 25 19:50:34 <andres_> No, I saw that without 3V in VMMC1 the pins had 0V, and with 3V in VMMC1 they have 0.5V but no activity in the pins, the voltage value is the same while presing reset switch and after releasing it
Mar 25 19:51:36 <andres_> (also WP has 0.5 V, and it is connected to a OMAP pin far away from DAT[0-7] pins)
Mar 25 19:55:10 <andres_> Here are the pin values: http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2014-03-25_20_54_28-NA5VT9Bu.png
Mar 25 20:06:33 <_av500_> andres_: sorry, no idea
Mar 25 20:06:42 <_av500_> you might ask Gerald on the Beagle mailing list
Mar 25 20:31:03 <iandow> If BBB looses power, will the clock be inaccurate the next time it regains power and boots?  (assuming no NTP sync)
Mar 25 20:33:39 <mazzoo> iandow: yes, there's no RTC battery
Mar 25 20:33:52 <jacekowski> iandow: there will be no clock
Mar 25 20:34:11 <iandow> thanks!  RTC.  That's the keyword I was looking for.
Mar 25 20:52:07 <asku> Would it be possible to add wifi capibility
Mar 25 20:52:16 <asku> apologies
Mar 25 20:53:00 <asku> would it be possible to add wifi capability and an LCD touch screen to a bbb without access to the on-board USB port?
Mar 25 20:53:30 <jacekowski> theoretically - yes
Mar 25 20:56:13 <thurgood> I think they may already have capes that will accomplish that
Mar 25 20:57:49 <prpplague> iandow: there are a number of RTC capes that can added a battery backed RTC to the bbb
Mar 25 20:58:36 <prpplague> asku: there are a number of lcd touch screen solutions available for the bbb, however, because the onboard eMMC uses the signals for SDIO based wifi, most solutions use a usb based wifi stick
Mar 25 21:00:32 <asku> prpplague: yeah, that's what I have seen also.  Would it be possible if I were to sacrifice the eMMC
Mar 25 21:11:10 <bizz> hi, i have problem making bootable sd card for bbb, when i run mksdcard.h it cant partition my sd card. can anybody help plz?
Mar 25 21:13:26 <bizz> i'm still waiting for help ...
Mar 25 21:16:02 <asku> beaglebone black capes
Mar 25 21:19:24 <Thomsonite> Out of curiosity, does anyone have a good place to find out more information on hooking a bbb up to an amateur radio for digital modes?
Mar 25 21:25:37 <ds2> don't know of a place but are you thinking of using the BBB as a radio or?
Mar 25 21:30:57 <myself> "beaglebone gnuradio" turns up plenty of hits
Mar 25 21:31:05 <Thomsonite> Not directly, my radio (yaesu ft-817nd) has a data port on the back of it.
Mar 25 21:32:35 <tbr> the BBB doesn't have an audio input
Mar 25 21:32:59 <tbr> you could add an audio cape
Mar 25 21:33:14 <myself> Oh. Then what software are you planning to run?
Mar 25 21:33:34 <tbr> you can control the radio by adding a MAX323 (or similar) to one of the UARTs and then driving it with hamlib
Mar 25 21:33:34 <myself> probably easiest to look specifically for that software and the word "beaglebone"
Mar 25 21:34:25 <tbr> software part is easy
Mar 25 21:34:27 <Thomsonite> I don't have a particular software in mind as of yet.  I'm completely new to both Linux and BBB.  As in, I got it up and running yesterday.
Mar 25 21:34:28 <tbr> e.g. gmfsk
Mar 25 21:39:58 <Thomsonite> Looking for information so I can frame my questions in a more detailed (read: intelligent) manner.
Mar 25 21:54:45 <pjustice> you'll have to address the audio hardware issue, but if you're intending to use the bbb like a tiny desktop machine, look at things like fldigi
Mar 25 21:56:53 <bizz> hi, i have problem making bootable sd card for bbb, when i run mksdcard.h it cant partition my sd card. can anybody help plz?
Mar 25 21:59:19 <need_help> anybody active here ?
Mar 25 22:01:43 <ds2> Hmmm
Mar 25 22:20:08 <spikebike> interesting, nvidia quad core arm, GigE, 2GB ram, $200
Mar 25 22:20:18 <spikebike> I suspect approximately zero GPIO
Mar 25 22:20:25 <spikebike> still kinda cool though
Mar 25 22:27:31 <tbr> spikebike: https://developer.nvidia.com/jetson-tk1#source=pr - says there are GPIOs on the header
Mar 25 22:29:07 <Thomsonite> Thanks for the input.  Every single piece of information I find leads to more questions.  Ultimately, my goal is to use the BBB as both the data source and the TNC.  I obviously need to do far more research on that before I can gain a better understanding of how it all goes together
Mar 25 22:29:50 <tbr> Thomsonite: might want to try on a desktop linux first
Mar 25 22:29:59 <tbr> to get an idea how stuff works
Mar 25 22:31:09 <spikebike> tbr indeed, but not how many.  At least 2 I guess ;-)
Mar 25 22:31:53 <tbr> time will hopefully get us docs
Mar 25 22:35:46 <spikebike> tbr: looks like a pretty nice board for desktop or server duty.  Although the 64-bit versino is supposedly pretty close as well.
Mar 25 23:12:58 <flynn_lives> quick troubleshooting question for anyone
Mar 25 23:13:54 <flynn_lives> I accidentally partially formatted my BBB (I cancelled after I realized it was the wrong drive) but now it won't boot at all. It won't even register as a device
Mar 25 23:17:38 <Conguito> hello people
Mar 25 23:17:55 <Conguito> i'm copy a image to my beagleboard xm revb
Mar 25 23:18:08 <Conguito> i connect serial cable and i get that
Mar 25 23:18:34 <Conguito> Texas Instruments X-Loader 1.5.0 (Mar 27 2011 - 17:37:56)
Mar 25 23:19:40 <Conguito> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=r3Rb5uAb
Mar 25 23:19:43 <Conguito> i
Mar 25 23:19:50 <Conguito> i paste output in: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=r3Rb5uAb
Mar 25 23:20:26 <ds2> do you have a SD card in there?
Mar 25 23:22:04 <Conguito> yes
Mar 25 23:22:24 <Conguito> if i don't put a sd i receave only "60" in puty
Mar 25 23:23:43 <ds2> oops... wrong question. do you know if your SD is valid
Mar 25 23:24:02 <ds2> it looks like u-boot can't find a kernel to load so either uEnv.txt or equiv is bad or there is no kernel
Mar 25 23:24:48 <Conguito> it's my first time with beagleboard xm Rev B
Mar 25 23:25:11 <Conguito> i download a .img and copy to sd using Win32DiskImager
Mar 25 23:26:10 <ds2> there is something wrong with the way the SD card is create (or the image)
Mar 25 23:26:27 <ds2> try this
Mar 25 23:26:29 <ds2> hit the reset button
Mar 25 23:26:35 <ds2> and don't touch the console
Mar 25 23:29:17 <Conguito> same shit
Mar 25 23:29:23 <Conguito> try to copy image again
Mar 25 23:33:15 <Conguito> fixed
Mar 25 23:33:21 <Conguito> i use a wrong image
Mar 25 23:33:33 <Conguito> i think i'm using a rev C image
Mar 25 23:50:36 <droidicus> Does anyone have some information on the Arduino Tre? The information page on the arduino site seems to indicate it is a beaglebone/arduino hybrid board, but I have been unable to find more, or source code, etc.
Mar 25 23:57:01 <JFK911> whats the deal with the debian build?  are most people dissing angstrom for this?
Mar 26 00:05:42 <Guest57334> Hi Guys... I am trying to make a BBB with ubuntu run a 4G freedompop modem
Mar 26 00:52:37 <b0o> am I doing something inherently wrong by flashing the Angstrom-Cloud9-IDE-GNOME-eglibc-ipk-v2012.12-beaglebone-2013.06.20.img image on to an SD card, but still don't see the BBB show up on my Windows machine?
Mar 26 00:53:10 <b0o> debian works just fine and unfortunately I don't have a ttl serial cable to check console
Mar 26 01:02:31 <b0o> or I should say, it boots but Linux USB Ethernet/RNDIS Gadget shows as unplugged somehow
Mar 26 02:13:58 <crazyfella> Greetings
Mar 26 02:19:56 <Dan1> and salutations
Mar 26 02:23:51 <Guille> Where I can report a bug in image generated to flash Beable Bone Black (amgstrom dist) ?
Mar 26 02:33:08 <Guille> Ok... Lets describe the bug ; (at least reported here...) , image BBB-eMMC-flasher-2013.09.04.img.xz for install amstrong has a partition scheme of: first partition 70MB , and second particion (ext4) 3,33GB BUT only 650MB are actualy used. Have this particion scheme FORCE to use a 4GB SD to flash Beable BoneBlack!!! If second particion is shorted to 800MB ALL the system can be put in 1GB SD CARD. There is something especial to use this
Mar 26 02:36:49 <JFK911> sorry a 4 gb card costs $5 and thats not terrible for most people
Mar 26 02:42:21 <Guille87749> well... At leas in http://beagleboard.org/Getting%20Started#update should say 4GB SD :-) ;,,,, YEah 5$ is not terrible
Mar 26 02:42:48 <Guille87749> 4GB SD is included in BeableBone, but not included in BeableBoneBlack ;-)
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