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Apr 12 03:40:44 * nyt- yawns
Apr 12 03:40:44 <nyt-> hi
Apr 12 05:17:29 <ravenlin> Hello everyone, I am trying to write bytes to the beaglebone black using the serial usb connection cable with my mac. I have the FTDI drivers installed and I would like to write bytes the the beaglebone
Apr 12 05:18:15 <ravenlin> I can read but everytime I try to echo to the tty usbserial I do see it being received on the beaglebone using cat
Apr 12 05:18:22 <ravenlin> anyone have any ideas what I am missing
Apr 12 05:18:49 <ravenlin> dont* sorry
Apr 12 05:20:00 <ravenlin> sorry that was poorly phrased: I can read bytes being sent from the beaglebone but I cannot write to the beaglebine
Apr 12 05:22:16 <q0> what kind of bytes
Apr 12 05:26:17 <ravenlin> Normal characters
Apr 12 05:26:33 <ravenlin> I can see them being received by cating the tty0 port
Apr 12 05:27:27 <ravenlin> Sorry by cating usbserial
Apr 12 05:27:46 <ravenlin> however when I cat tty0 on the beaglebone I see nothing when I echo
Apr 12 05:28:00 <ravenlin> do I have to so some ssty step from the serial end?
Apr 12 05:28:10 <ravenlin> stty*
Apr 12 05:34:00 <_av500_> flow control?
Apr 12 05:34:04 <_av500_> disable it
Apr 12 05:36:54 <ravenlin> ok ill give it a shot
Apr 12 05:37:40 <ravenlin> do you know the steps on how?
Apr 12 05:38:05 <_av500_> google does
Apr 12 05:38:13 <ravenlin> know the link? lol
Apr 12 05:38:26 <_av500_> www.google.com?
Apr 12 05:39:03 <ravenlin> no to a helpfull site, sorry dumb question
Apr 12 06:28:58 <fzombie> Wondering if I could stick and antenna into a one of the pins and generate a fm signal
Apr 12 06:41:06 <monoxide_13> fzombie: yes
Apr 12 06:41:55 <fzombie> exciting
Apr 12 06:43:05 <fzombie> I'm going to have to figure that out in a few days when I have time
Apr 12 06:45:43 <monoxide_13> You just use a timer to oscillate the signal. Depending on the frequency you may need a capacitor or rf choke. and of course always tune your antenna
Apr 12 06:47:05 <fzombie> I have an antenna analyzer that can do 1.8mhz to 170mhz
Apr 12 06:47:23 <fzombie> I'm sure it wont be a problem getting it dialed in to the target
Apr 12 06:49:26 <fzombie> hmm wondering about recieving. Probably would require one of those USB SDR interfaces
Apr 12 06:55:13 <KotH> fzombie: PLEASE DO NOT DO THIS!
Apr 12 06:55:32 <fzombie> KotH, why?
Apr 12 06:55:34 <KotH> fzombie: 1) it's forbidden by law to transmitt signals unless you get an explicit permission
Apr 12 06:55:43 <fzombie> KotH, I'm licensed
Apr 12 06:56:10 <KotH> fzombie: 2) sending singals the way this rpi fm stuff is doing, it will send out a wide spectrum signal way into the GHz range
Apr 12 06:56:20 <fzombie> I can experiment with home-brew radios, it's legal, I don't have to use a part90 radio 100% of the time.
Apr 12 06:56:35 <fzombie> really?
Apr 12 06:56:37 <fzombie> damn
Apr 12 06:56:40 <KotH> fzombie: 3) this wide spectrum signal might interfere not only with stuff of your neighbors, if you are (un)lucky, it will also interfere with pacemakers and such
Apr 12 06:56:47 <fzombie> I can maybe add a circuit on it
Apr 12 06:56:54 <fzombie> to clean it up
Apr 12 06:56:57 <KotH> you need to filter it.. heavly
Apr 12 06:57:10 <KotH> at least 2nd order LC filter
Apr 12 06:57:22 <fzombie> I figured it wouldn't be as simple as just an antenna
Apr 12 06:57:41 <KotH> btw: how are you licensed to transmit in the fm radio band?
Apr 12 06:58:26 <fzombie> Amateur radio bands http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2-meter_band ~144mhz
Apr 12 06:58:50 <KotH> ah.. but if you are a ham, you should know what the spectrum of a rectangular signal looks like ;)
Apr 12 06:59:19 <fzombie> was more of a curiosity than a working project
Apr 12 06:59:29 <KotH> i can understand that
Apr 12 06:59:31 <fzombie> nobody would notice where I test
Apr 12 06:59:44 <KotH> hopefully
Apr 12 06:59:51 <fzombie> unless I have 4+ watts signal wont go anywhere
Apr 12 07:00:11 <fzombie> I have to knife-edge a lot of communications lol
Apr 12 07:00:17 <KotH> but unfortunately people are "testing" this kind of stuff in the center of a city. without knowing what they are actually doing :-(
Apr 12 07:00:27 <fzombie> oh that would be bad
Apr 12 07:00:57 <KotH> well, look at those fm radio rpi pages. where does it say that it is not allowed? where does it mention the EMI it sends out?
Apr 12 07:01:17 <fzombie> let me google it
Apr 12 07:01:19 <KotH> can you expect a teenager to know this stuff? no, but they still can follow those instruction
Apr 12 07:01:39 <fzombie> doesn't look like it says anything about it, or the power level it actually puts out
Apr 12 07:01:50 <Deepak> Hi everyone
Apr 12 07:01:54 <fzombie> shouldn't they have at least tested that before publishing?
Apr 12 07:01:59 <fzombie> seems kind of shady
Apr 12 07:02:04 <fzombie> hi Deepak
Apr 12 07:02:08 <KotH> fzombie: the original authors were teenagers themselves :)
Apr 12 07:02:30 <fzombie> I wouldn't want to land a 10,000$ fine for being dumb
Apr 12 07:02:35 <Deepak> I am  using BBB with android and trying to connect FT245R device
Apr 12 07:02:51 <Deepak> in console its showing USB <-> Serial
Apr 12 07:03:02 <fzombie> thats a ftdi ffio interface right?
Apr 12 07:03:20 <Deepak> but with FTDI sample J2DXX is not able to get this device
Apr 12 07:03:45 <KotH> fzombie: yeah.. i dont think a teenager trying stuff is getting that high a fine. but i dislike all those comercial DIY websites, that should have people who know that this kind of stuff has problems, and still publish it w/o any warning
Apr 12 07:04:10 <fzombie> maybe we should email them and ask them for a disclaimer
Apr 12 07:04:11 <Deepak> any one can suggest if I missed any
Apr 12 07:04:12 <Deepak> ?
Apr 12 07:04:18 <KotH> Deepak: check basics first
Apr 12 07:04:22 <KotH> Deepak: does it have power?
Apr 12 07:04:27 <Deepak> yes
Apr 12 07:04:30 <Deepak> 5V
Apr 12 07:04:32 <KotH> Deepak: are the wires conneted correctly?
Apr 12 07:04:41 <KotH> Deepak: right baud rate?
Apr 12 07:04:50 <KotH> Deepak: did you sacrifice a virgin?
Apr 12 07:04:58 <Deepak> yes
Apr 12 07:05:05 <KotH> that's your mistake then
Apr 12 07:05:09 <KotH> the bbb doesnt like blood
Apr 12 07:05:30 <fzombie> ya bbb isn't a crazy religion it likes science over feelings
Apr 12 07:06:04 <fzombie> also the driver for android is beta and I wonder if there's a update you can compile against the kernel
Apr 12 07:06:12 <Deepak> didn't get can u come again
Apr 12 07:06:57 <fzombie> Any updated drivers?
Apr 12 07:07:26 <Deepak> yes updated I am using
Apr 12 07:07:41 <Deepak> can u plz suggest if u have any updated
Apr 12 07:08:45 <fzombie> I have not used android on bbb. Was just thinking.
Apr 12 07:11:31 <Deepak> Koth -> I am using right baurdrate and proper connectivity, u told this my mistake. can u tell me what mistake i am doing
Apr 12 07:11:41 <KotH> Deepak: if you connected serial cable the right way and use the right baud rate, you should at least see the boot loader messages
Apr 12 07:14:13 <KotH> Deepak: so, i would suggest you check those connections again
Apr 12 07:14:26 <KotH> Deepak: if in doubt, connect an oscilloscope and see whether you get the right signals
Apr 12 07:19:36 <Deepak> Yes same I am telling on BBB console, I am getting boot prints as well as FTDI device with USB <-> Serial and VID 403 PID 6001
Apr 12 07:22:45 <KotH> well, then it seems to work
Apr 12 07:31:29 <fzombie> All this python writing has made me tired
Apr 12 07:32:22 <fzombie> You know I spend more time programming on my bbb than anything else. Have not even done much with the hardware other than some LEDs for status/warning
Apr 12 07:56:13 <Deepak> Koth; do u have any working sample?
Apr 12 07:56:34 <KotH> i dont own a bbb
Apr 12 07:57:13 <Deepak> ok
Apr 12 07:57:49 <Deepak> do u think any drive need to install on android?
Apr 12 08:35:02 <Deepak> any one who is working on beaglebone android with ftdi FT245R and having working app
Apr 12 09:08:14 <Deepak> Any one who is working on beaglebone android with ftdi FT245R and having working app
Apr 12 09:22:10 <mrpackethead> Deepak, you've asked the same question twice
Apr 12 09:24:32 <Deepak> yes, its very argent. I tried too many ways. but not sworking
Apr 12 09:28:02 <mrpackethead> oh. well urgent is expensive.
Apr 12 09:28:18 <mrpackethead> what are you trying to do
Apr 12 09:33:21 <vvu|Log> Deepak: isn't it being enumerated as an usb<->serial device ?
Apr 12 09:35:20 <Deepak> yes its enumerating. same i m able to see on terminal
Apr 12 09:42:31 <vvu|Log> so just take it as an usb device from your android app
Apr 12 09:42:35 <vvu|Log> with the usb manager class
Apr 12 10:04:33 <srikanth> looking for LCD MODULE suitable to use beagle bone black board, which should operate in out door application
Apr 12 10:04:47 <srikanth> can any one suggest
Apr 12 10:08:34 <srikanth> transflective COLOR  LCD display is suitable for our application
Apr 12 10:10:38 <srikanth> any one used transflective color LCD display with beaglebone black board
Apr 12 10:57:34 <deepak> yes I am using d2xx and j2xx
Apr 12 15:23:40 <Guest39224> Hey guys, quick question, does the beaglebone black have an onboard voltage regulator? If so, what are allowable input voltages?
Apr 12 15:24:10 <veremit> 5V, 5V and 5V
Apr 12 15:25:05 <veremit> and no .. they don't have a generic regulator on-board, only for internal chip voltages
Apr 12 15:26:44 <Guest39224> alright, thanks
Apr 12 15:35:08 <Guest39224> one other question, what kind of current does the supply need to provide?
Apr 12 15:37:44 <mthiffau> Hello guys, just a quick question about clock rates. If I'm using the master clock to drive a dmtimer (as opposed to the 32kHz clock), how do I figure out what the master clock rate is? Can't find it in the TRM since it's configurable from platform to platform.
Apr 12 15:38:02 <mthiffau> Turning an LED on and off it seems to be around 25Mhz
Apr 12 15:38:14 <mthiffau> Which is the example clock rate given in the TRM
Apr 12 16:14:55 <Fedork> Hi all
Apr 12 16:24:15 <zg__> hi. i'm really struggling with device trees on the beaglebone black (debian, 3.8) and can't find usefull information. what does compatible = "bone-pinmux-helper" do, and why is it required in &ocp targets?
Apr 12 16:56:32 <pablovilas> Hello I've a BBB and installed Archlinux ARM but when I upgrade the system and a new kernel appears the system don't boot anymore. Anyone has experience on that?
Apr 12 16:56:54 <tbr> don't upgrade the kernel
Apr 12 16:57:24 <pablovilas> Why not?
Apr 12 16:57:41 <pablovilas> This is a known issue?
Apr 12 16:58:06 <tbr> desktop distributions suck at handling embedded systems. film at 11
Apr 12 17:00:21 <pablovilas> ok, also I've another BBB with debian, the official img for bbb. It's has installed an apache server that display a bbb info page. I just want to know where is located that web page I've look into apache config files with no luck. Also I check /var/www and there is nothing there
Apr 12 17:02:27 <tbr> I don't think that's apache
Apr 12 17:02:58 <MLM> nginx? `/usr/share/nginx/www`
Apr 12 17:07:59 <pablovilas> ok, thanks guys. I'll check for non apache servers
Apr 12 17:08:20 <MLM> pablovilas: check if nginx, check that path ^
Apr 12 17:10:09 <pablovilas> MLM: no nginx path, also I've tried to find the process via ps with no luck
Apr 12 17:11:18 <pablovilas> there is a node.js server running...
Apr 12 17:27:15 <pablovilas> MLM: Done!. I just need to remove the BoneScripts services http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16554756/how-do-i-release-port-80-on-a-beaglebone-so-i-can-use-it
Apr 12 17:30:48 <MLM> yesterday I was asking which server was serving the /var/www/. syadnom suggested `sudo netstat -tlpn`. That will tell you what process is taking up the ports. Looks like you got it though
Apr 12 17:33:02 <pablovilas> MLM: A first I was confuse because there is an apache running, also I don't have too much knowledge, but finally got it. Thanks
Apr 12 20:06:20 <mthiffau> I asked a question earlier, and didn't get a response before I had to log off. Is there a place where I can see the logs of this channel to see if somebody answered before asking again?
Apr 12 20:07:28 <veremit> Channel topic is: http://beagleboard.org/chat has a guide on how to ask questions and links to the logs
Apr 12 21:17:17 <jabers> I am trying to download Adafruit Python Raspberry Pi library via git. I get the error fatal: HTTP request failed. Im using the command, git clone https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit-Raspberry-Pi-Python-Code.git
Apr 12 21:17:23 <jabers> what could be wrong?
Apr 12 21:17:53 <FUN> internet connected?
Apr 12 21:18:08 <FUN> no. https?
Apr 12 21:18:10 <jabers> yes, im connected via wifi to my BBB
Apr 12 21:18:36 <MLM> test your interenet `ping google.com`
Apr 12 21:18:51 <MLM> `ctrl+z` to stop
Apr 12 21:19:32 <FUN> change https to git
Apr 12 21:19:46 <jabers> i get a series of responces from google
Apr 12 21:20:00 <FUN> git clone git://github.com/whatever
Apr 12 21:20:48 <jabers> awesome, thank you
Apr 12 21:20:55 <jabers> it worked
Apr 12 21:21:15 <FUN> u r welcome
Apr 12 21:29:04 <nyt-> woo time to finish this gem
Apr 12 21:29:08 <nyt-> and get it published
Apr 12 21:40:20 <veremit> did ya mke it work nyt-?
Apr 12 21:40:29 <nyt-> make what work?
Apr 12 21:40:36 <veremit> anything ... :/
Apr 12 21:40:37 <veremit> lol
Apr 12 21:40:41 <nyt-> everything
Apr 12 21:40:47 <veremit> good
Apr 12 21:41:16 <FUN> thanks god everything is fine ;-)
Apr 12 21:41:35 <nyt-> adding an oop interface, gemifying, then gonna publish
Apr 12 21:41:38 <nyt-> hopefully have it live tonight
Apr 12 21:41:40 <nyt-> http://pastebin.com/mH3zATDP
Apr 12 21:41:44 <nyt-> examples using it at the moment
Apr 12 21:41:51 <nyt-> that's just my scratch file i was using for testing
Apr 12 21:42:04 <nyt-> which gives you a history of the order it got dev'd in too lol
Apr 12 21:43:07 <FUN> ruby vs python 2014 for beaglebone?
Apr 12 21:43:24 <veremit> lol fun
Apr 12 21:43:28 <nyt-> well i have more features than the python lib ;)
Apr 12 23:55:53 <nyt-> friggen ny =[
Apr 12 23:57:44 <owl> y?
Apr 12 23:58:12 <nyt-> ny safe act
Apr 12 23:58:23 <nyt-> deadline coming up
Apr 13 00:04:33 <owl> lol don't want to live in ny
Apr 13 00:04:49 <owl> ill just visit there. that's all
Apr 13 00:05:47 <nyt-> going to move out of ny eventually i think
Apr 13 00:09:39 <owl> u have one in mind?
Apr 13 00:10:09 <owl> like goldrush or T-party
Apr 13 00:10:30 <owl> or five-stone-heads
Apr 13 00:10:38 <nyt-> lol wat
Apr 13 00:11:44 <owl> i'm just listing places that is not ny
Apr 13 00:12:01 <nyt-> thinking utah, maybe or
Apr 13 00:12:02 <nyt-> dunno
Apr 13 00:21:54 <edy> BBB wifi + angstrom
Apr 13 00:22:00 <edy> help
Apr 13 00:22:05 <edy> BBB wifi + angstrom - help
Apr 13 00:22:14 <nyt-> help with what?
Apr 13 00:22:27 <nyt-> plug in nic, configure
Apr 13 00:41:01 <Guest79930> hello
Apr 13 00:44:32 <veremit> seriously lol.
Apr 13 00:59:50 <BobCat> Are there any websites powered by BBB?
Apr 13 01:00:06 <BobCat> I might set one up just for the notoriety
Apr 13 02:01:19 <monoxide_13> anyone tried using the bb for RF stuff?
Apr 13 02:01:57 <agmlego> Yeah, n8vi is broadcasting WWVB on the PRU.
Apr 13 02:09:43 <monoxide_13> what lib is he using?
Apr 13 02:16:07 <agmlego> ...hand-coded PRU assembly?
Apr 13 02:16:49 <monoxide_13> dirty
Apr 13 02:19:00 <agmlego> How so?
Apr 13 02:23:56 <monoxide_13> assembly is a greasy way to get things done
Apr 13 02:24:56 <monoxide_13> you can cheat a little by using inline c, but that doesn't help much
Apr 13 02:32:12 <agmlego> ...and you have a copy of the limited-distribution beta C compiler for the PRU?
Apr 13 02:32:20 <agmlego> Because niehter I nor n8vi does.
Apr 13 02:34:21 <monoxide_13> not for the PRU
Apr 13 02:34:49 <agmlego> OK, then talking about inline C in the context of doing RF with the PRU kind of does not make any sense then, does it?
Apr 13 02:45:19 <monoxide_13> Your brought up the PRU subsytem, I just asked how he was doing it. Never did I say to use RF on the PRU. I was commenting on the assembly language in general. I use inline c to interface with a RTL2832.
Apr 13 02:45:58 <pjustice> inability to think of anything lower level than c++ as anything other than dirty is the hobgoblin of little #$%^&*( minds.  It's an embedded environment.  Get the #$%^&*( over it and write some assembly code that gets the $%^&*() job done.
Apr 13 02:46:00 <monoxide_13> I was just curious if anyone else was experimenting with it
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