**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Apr 15 02:59:59 2014 Apr 15 03:53:13 quiet night Apr 15 03:55:36 careful what you wish for! Apr 15 04:56:13 myself, man on many pessimistic phrases Apr 15 05:07:27 who controls am335x-pru-package? Apr 15 05:38:42 foreverska: did you try looking at the commit history? Looks like jadonk authored last Apr 15 08:19:51 Hello everybody ! I'm starting with a BB revA6. Which distribution should I use to make a web server and using the UART's for a wireless conection (Xbee) ? Apr 15 08:25:49 StevN: the default for the newest BBB is debian so I would go for that. I personally run ubuntu on my black (and MINIX of course) Apr 15 08:26:43 debian is nice, most of the stuff works Apr 15 08:26:45 at least the uarts do Apr 15 08:27:02 * nyt- still documenting this fracking ruby lib Apr 15 08:27:05 so close to done Apr 15 08:30:08 nyt-: what are you doing with ruby on the beagles? Apr 15 08:31:12 I wrote a ruby library Apr 15 08:31:22 for beaglebone io stuff Apr 15 08:31:23 im just documenting it now Apr 15 08:31:28 almost done with the YARD docs Apr 15 08:31:32 then need to write the main readme file Apr 15 08:32:15 OK nice ! I'm going to try this. Thank you ! Apr 15 08:37:58 https://github.com/notnyt/beaglebone Apr 15 08:38:01 just updated all the yard docs Apr 15 08:38:02 finally Apr 15 08:38:15 http://rubydoc.info/gems/beaglebone/1.0.5/frames will eventually update with docs Apr 15 08:38:21 time to write the readme Apr 15 08:38:39 need to friggen learn markdown real quick Apr 15 08:40:47 https://rubygems.org/gems/beaglebone Apr 15 08:40:48 wee Apr 15 09:16:17 what is that pp stuff ? https://github.com/notnyt/beaglebone/blob/master/examples/ain.rb#L21 Apr 15 09:16:32 nyt-? Apr 15 09:20:13 hello, could someone give me a hand please? I'm using a beaglebone black with buildroot and I'm wondering what option should I check to have usb wifi stick recognized? I tried mdev, udev, buildroot internal driver for my RTL8188CUS stick, external realtek drivers.. Apr 15 09:20:35 ask the buildroot people? Apr 15 09:21:32 this is an option, right! Apr 15 09:25:07 pp = pretty print Apr 15 09:38:46 seen the freedom bone ? http://freedombone.uk.to/ Apr 15 09:42:05 interesting but I don't quite think very useful Apr 15 09:42:12 users running their own mail server isnt going to get very far Apr 15 09:42:13 while its cool to use these in what ever way you please and its great to see tons of oddball things they can do....... i cant help but think there must be something better for that job? Apr 15 09:42:15 and who wants to be served slow webpages Apr 15 09:42:41 haha gopher is on there, really? my goodness Apr 15 09:42:48 someone has too mch time on their hands Apr 15 09:48:58 gopher was cool in the 90s Apr 15 09:50:12 nyt-: I have been using my bone as server(mail.imap,irc,webmail,file storage) for a few weeks now Apr 15 09:50:38 I think it is useable and usefull Apr 15 09:50:43 lol Apr 15 09:50:50 most mail from end user ip addresses are blocked Apr 15 09:51:00 if not by the provider, then by reputation Apr 15 09:51:46 I am still using my provider's mail server for smtp and use fechmail to get the data Apr 15 09:51:57 and for a good reason too Apr 15 09:51:57 so then it defeats the purpose Apr 15 09:52:01 you're still relying on another provider Apr 15 09:52:11 I is a lot of work Apr 15 09:52:36 nyt-: also on internet and power but how are you supposed to known what the purpose is? Apr 15 09:52:42 keesj: if you have it done for the 5th time, it becomes easy :) Apr 15 09:52:47 because it stated it? Apr 15 09:52:56 keesj: you just copy the config from one of the other 4 machines over ;) Apr 15 09:53:06 FreedomBone is a personal home communications server based upon the BeagleBone Black hardware. It's small and cheap and will allow you to use email, have your own web site and do social networking in a federated way without needing to rely upon any intermediary companies other than your ISP. Apr 15 09:53:49 * nyt- shrugs Apr 15 09:53:52 *other than your ISP* > Apr 15 09:54:11 * KotH does not depend on his isp ;) Apr 15 09:54:18 I am my isp Apr 15 09:54:20 lol Apr 15 09:54:25 keesj: renting a small server is cheap Apr 15 09:54:31 * keesj waits for google drones to provide internet :P Apr 15 09:54:32 keesj: especially if you share it with a couple of friends Apr 15 09:55:08 and in the oss scene you have enough people who run their own infrastructure already and can help you with stuff Apr 15 09:56:00 anyways.. time for lunch and brainwash Apr 15 09:56:03 KotH: I don't have friend to share my private parts. I did use tuxfamily in the past (for xmoto) but I don't think it is the same Apr 15 09:56:30 so what is the argument agains doing it on a bone? Apr 15 09:56:42 keesj: work on some oss project for some time, and you will have enough friends :) Apr 15 09:57:01 keesj: running a mailserver behind dynamic ip is a big no no Apr 15 09:57:03 I have the last... 15 years or so Apr 15 09:57:31 keesj: most of the dynamic ranges are in blacklist. ie most mailsservers will not accept mails from such ips Apr 15 09:57:39 perhaps not good at the friend making part Apr 15 09:58:05 KotH: he's relaying through his isp... but still Apr 15 09:58:09 then you're acting as an mta without backup Apr 15 09:58:13 have fun when your ip changes Apr 15 09:58:21 that's a non argument if you use gmail.s smtp server or in my case dds.nl's Apr 15 09:58:30 yeah.. a receiving MTA should always have a fix ip Apr 15 09:58:34 anything else is insane Apr 15 09:58:56 its a very valid argument Apr 15 09:58:57 anyways.. i need to be gone Apr 15 09:59:03 ok Apr 15 09:59:07 if your ip changes, other servers will not be able to deliver mail to you Apr 15 09:59:10 wanna be my friend? Apr 15 09:59:11 until dns updates Apr 15 10:02:15 that's indeed only if you don't use fetchmail. so yes ok don't make the bone you primary mx server Apr 15 10:02:57 also if you're serving any content over the web it will most likely be painfully slow unless you have very fast internet Apr 15 10:03:18 I could see using it for lightweight stuff Apr 15 10:03:30 i wonder how it would function as an asterisk box Apr 15 10:03:51 granted, I'm running a much more powerful server that takes less than 10 watts at home for all that Apr 15 10:04:15 I have so many use cases for the bone at home I was even considering adding a second one for seving media Apr 15 10:04:40 serving . or possibly send one to my family do to distributed backups Apr 15 10:05:28 I also tried to attach a rtl_sdr dongle to it but somehow that did not work Apr 15 10:05:48 Hi, im looking for help. Anybody knows if BeagleBone Black is out of te market? I have saw it out of stock for a long time. Apr 15 10:06:04 comes and goes in stock Apr 15 10:06:11 there should be a large batch coming in may iirc Apr 15 10:06:15 with 4gb onboard Apr 15 10:06:16 Raider_: no, it's just higher demand than production Apr 15 10:06:29 Raider_: just order a board and you'll get it after a week or two Apr 15 10:08:14 im working with it in my final career project and it scares me not to see them in stock. Thank you! Ill keep searching a board Apr 15 10:08:35 ebay Apr 15 10:08:55 wow gouging going on there Apr 15 10:09:27 poor planning if your career depends on it ;) Apr 15 10:09:36 lol Apr 15 10:09:46 ffs... Apr 15 10:10:02 far to many dans on this server Apr 15 10:10:05 I have 1, but if it brokes... ill be like nude Apr 15 10:10:28 * Dan1 just ordered his reserve BBB Apr 15 10:10:46 caus it my first one is about to be put somewhere where its important... Apr 15 10:11:05 same reason i have 2 raspberry pi's but ive only ever used one Apr 15 10:14:15 Then, ill keep using my actual bbb with a lot of love while i look for for another auxiliar board Apr 15 10:14:19 Thank you guys Apr 15 10:27:17 https://github.com/notnyt/beaglebone heh well I got some documentation started at least lol Apr 15 10:27:28 oh hello bed Apr 15 10:27:30 * nyt- & Apr 15 12:30:39 hi Apr 15 12:31:02 My i2c slave code is not working Apr 15 12:31:28 HWREG(SOC_CM_PER_REGS + CM_PER_I2C2_CLKCTRL) |=CM_PER_I2C2_CLKCTRL_MODULEMODE_ENABLE; //Configure i2cgpio HWREG(0x44E10000+0x978 )=0X03; HWREG(0x44E10000+0x97C )=0X03; //Reset I2C HWREG(SOC_I2C_2_REGS + I2C_CON) &= ~(I2C_CON_I2C_EN); // Disable HWREG(SOC_I2C_2_REGS + I2C_SYSC) |= I2C_SYSC_SRST; // reset HWREG(SOC_I2C_2_REGS + I2C_SYSC) &= ~I2C_SYSC_AUTOIDLE;// Autoidle disable //12Mhz i2c module clock. //I2C_PSC = x - Obtai Apr 15 12:34:03 HWREG(SOC_I2C_2_REGS+I2C_PSC) = 50; //Program I2C clock obtain 100KBps or 400Kbps(SCLL AND SCLH) - ONLY FOR MASTER so not required //HWREG(SOC_I2C_2_REGS+I2C_SCLL) = x; //HWREG(SOC_I2C_2_REGS+I2C_SCLH) = x; //Configure it's own address //I2C_OS HWREG(SOC_I2C_2_REGS+I2C_OA) = 0x50; HWREG(SOC_I2C_2_REGS+I2C_SBLOCK) = 0X01; //clear transmit and receive fifo HWREG(SOC_I2C_2_REGS+I2C_BUF) = 0X4040; //clear any pending interr Apr 15 12:36:56 hi anybody there? Apr 15 12:36:59 hi Apr 15 12:37:00 hi Apr 15 12:37:01 hi Apr 15 12:38:42 rk86: check u-boot code or code from starterware Apr 15 12:40:21 i am writing using code composer studio- firmware. keesj But i didn't find any sample for slave code Apr 15 12:41:00 all example with starterware are master Apr 15 12:43:24 and linux code perhaps? Apr 15 12:54:23 i searched in the linux driver code too, but no code for i2c slave Apr 15 12:54:36 all are master code Apr 15 12:56:48 Myself wrote a i2c slave driver Apr 15 12:57:11 http://e2e.ti.com/support/embedded/starterware/f/790/t/335032.aspx Apr 15 13:03:45 how's gsoc going? Apr 15 13:04:01 I did not hear much about that this year Apr 15 13:06:33 rk86: I guess you are out of luck . try adding some debugging , reading registers, checking pinmux, using scope. Apr 15 14:15:47 any answer please Apr 15 14:15:50 http://e2e.ti.com/support/embedded/starterware/f/790/t/335032.aspx Apr 15 14:17:15 could you please check http://e2e.ti.com/support/embedded/starterware/f/790/t/335032.aspx Apr 15 14:17:28 i am struggling for 3 days Apr 15 14:17:58 i didn't see any i2c slave code in starterware and linux drivers Apr 15 14:31:51 y tuuu Apr 15 14:47:55 t could you please check http://e2e.ti.com/support/embedded/starterware/f/790/t/335032.aspx [19:47] i am struggling for 3 days [19:47] i didn't see any i2c slave code in starterware and linux drivers Apr 15 14:49:04 rk86: sorry, but about nobody here cares about starterware or the e2e things. Apr 15 14:49:31 And asking the same question many times in a short period just annoys people who might. Apr 15 15:27:10 How come all BBB are out of stock wherever I try to order? Apr 15 15:53:47 hi Apr 15 15:54:04 starting a camera project with beagleboard-xm Apr 15 15:54:25 is there a good listing of camera modules I can interface with somewhere? Apr 15 16:01:21 have you checked adafruit.com? Apr 15 16:08:04 hi Apr 15 16:08:15 i need a help Apr 15 16:08:17 hello Apr 15 16:08:28 http://e2e.ti.com/support/embedded/starterware/f/790/t/335032.aspx Apr 15 16:08:43 i am struggling witht this 3 days Apr 15 16:08:47 hello\ Apr 15 16:10:36 rk86 i imagine theres some i2c code examples somewhere, staterware source might be harder Apr 15 16:14:13 hi kblin Apr 15 16:14:17 hey jkridner :) Apr 15 16:14:43 this is the best place to talk bonescript for now Apr 15 16:15:13 great Apr 15 16:16:22 so I guess the short version of my question is "can I run bonescript on a system that doesn't have the actual hardware"? Apr 15 16:16:52 I've got a project that uses bonescript, and I'd like to get that hooked up with my CI server Apr 15 16:16:53 yes, but its function is quite limited. Apr 15 16:17:14 I've not concentrated on testing it on non-bone hardware. Apr 15 16:17:24 some libraries won't install. Apr 15 16:17:36 epoll, for example, requires Linux at least. Apr 15 16:17:50 What is "CI" in this context? Apr 15 16:18:05 and why would you want to have BoneScript on there? Apr 15 16:18:46 I've been working on a "simulator" mode, but it doesn't do much of anything right now. does some prints. Apr 15 16:19:07 gpio stuff probably wont work, isnt that mostly what bonescript is for? Apr 15 16:19:19 I've built a stage prop for a theatre production that is driven by a webapp, and I'd like to make sure the webapp parts are sane Apr 15 16:19:42 I'm happy to assume that calling into bonescript.digitalWrite() will do the right thing Apr 15 16:20:14 i see Apr 15 16:20:26 kblin: so, you are embedding it within the web page, not on the web server? Apr 15 16:20:46 no, bonescript is running on a node instance Apr 15 16:20:51 kinda like http://jsfiddle.net/user/jkridner/fiddles/ Apr 15 16:20:53 not in the web page Apr 15 16:20:57 oh, k. Apr 15 16:21:23 why, if you don't want to talk to actual hardware.... or are you trying to get it to work with other hardware? Apr 15 16:21:24 Hi I'm working on a project for BeagleBoard XM Rev.3, I would like to generate PWM. I found instructions on the internet but I finished the edit (beagle-source-me.txt). I do not know the path surplus components OETREE. I do not know where I'll take this part. Apr 15 16:22:15 jkridner: no, as I said, the UI is a tad complicated, and I'd like to have a couple of tests in place to make sure I don't break the logic there Apr 15 16:22:48 what do you expect calling bonescript.digitalWrite() to do? Apr 15 16:23:13 you'd be happy if it did nothing and you could use it to test the UI logic without a bone? Apr 15 16:23:20 hello [21:38] http://e2e.ti.com/support/embedded/starterware/f/790/t/335032.aspx [21:38] i am struggling witht this 3 days [21:38] hello\ Apr 15 16:23:24 yes, absolutely Apr 15 16:23:37 there is no slave code available in internet Apr 15 16:23:44 even starterware Apr 15 16:23:53 kblin: k, in theory, it should detect it isn't on a bone and just print something instead of trying to do something to hardware. Apr 15 16:24:05 I don't test it much, but that is the design. Apr 15 16:24:09 ok, I'll just give that a whirl then Apr 15 16:24:19 hello Apr 15 16:24:29 I'm happy to provide patches if that's not working as expected Apr 15 16:24:34 http://e2e.ti.com/support/embedded/starterware/f/790/t/335032.aspx [21:38] i am struggling witht this 3 days Apr 15 16:24:56 there is no i2c slave code available in internet or starterware Apr 15 16:25:08 if you fonud please let me know Apr 15 16:25:11 kblin: here's the test that is supposed to put it in simulator mode: https://github.com/jadonk/bonescript/blob/master/index.js#L25 Apr 15 16:25:57 jkridner: ah, great :) Apr 15 16:26:21 please help Apr 15 16:26:28 http://e2e.ti.com/support/embedded/starterware/f/790/t/335032.aspx Apr 15 16:26:45 i am struggling witht this 3 days;there is no i2c slave code available in internet or starterware Apr 15 16:26:53 jkridner: I'll give that a spin. Apr 15 16:27:42 jkridner: thanks for that library, makes it really easy to get a GUI set up for electronics projects Apr 15 16:28:03 thanks. :-) Apr 15 16:28:32 Hello..Please help... Apr 15 16:28:38 http://e2e.ti.com/support/embedded/starterware/f/790/t/335032.aspx Apr 15 16:28:55 There is no i2c slave code available in internet or starterware Apr 15 16:29:05 rk86: we're not ignoring you, we just don't know either Apr 15 16:29:24 repeating your question every couple of minutes won't do much good besides getting people annoyed Apr 15 16:30:50 please just understand, i was trying to get a help from yesterday onwards..Just now only i tried many times..sorry Apr 15 16:30:52 rk86 check this Apr 15 16:30:56 http://www.elinux.org/Interfacing_with_I2C_Devices Apr 15 16:31:15 it has slave example in it... Apr 15 16:31:36 your post doesnt mention what the error is by the way Apr 15 16:32:25 I was getting nack Apr 15 16:33:25 can you try it on standard linux? from what i understand starterware is limited in what it can do... Apr 15 16:33:29 i am writing a code compressor studio firmware, Apr 15 16:34:06 starterware doesnt have a kernel loop, does it? Apr 15 16:35:34 i very new to ti products.. i was working previosly with keil and 8051 Apr 15 16:36:30 you might considure using a standard linux distro for beaglebone and use gcc for your testing.. Apr 15 16:37:42 i understand that, but my current work needed this one Apr 15 16:39:00 i see, well just wait for t.i. to answer if noone here can help Apr 15 16:39:59 you might add your not getting any ack response to your script also.. Apr 15 16:40:36 ok Apr 15 16:41:01 thanks for your replay..Also sorry to all whom i annoyed Apr 15 16:41:07 im waiting on a t.i. response too... it takes them a while Apr 15 16:41:25 ok Apr 15 16:41:31 no problem Apr 15 16:50:55 Hi VoltVisionSteve Apr 15 16:57:20 DiegoTc: Hello! I am back in the office now and I am going through my emails and I am getting ready to look at yours. How are you? Apr 15 17:44:43 just heard someone complained about BB availability, and is looking for alternative,what's going on Apr 15 17:45:25 http://www.embest-tech.cn/shop/star/BB-Black-Replica.html anyone used this replica/clone thing Apr 15 17:46:33 It's in Chinese. I don't understand that language. Apr 15 17:46:43 Or maybe "Chinese" isn't a language Apr 15 17:47:16 i check the images there, looks like similar; i was wondering the BB shortage thing Apr 15 17:48:45 a lack of surplus is not the same as a shortage Apr 15 17:48:51 place a preorder, you'll get your boards Apr 15 17:48:59 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/beagleboard/Z3JfUIkxOl8[1-25-false] ok Gerald explained it here Apr 15 17:49:01 they just ship out as fast as they come in, so there's never stock Apr 15 17:53:22 ausjke: people don't understand the difference between "no stock piling up due to demand exceeding supply" and "can't buy it at all" Apr 15 17:53:27 film at 11 and all that Apr 15 17:53:45 for me it was just: place order, wait a week, receive device Apr 15 17:54:05 tbr: ok, thanks. will forward the message Apr 15 17:54:28 not all of the buyers check google+ and irc channel i assume Apr 15 17:55:40 btw: the former case means that there are thousands of boards shipped to people each week, to people who didn't "wait for stock" but just placed their order Apr 15 17:59:05 tbr: thanks. notifying them that, just pre-order the goodies Apr 15 18:00:54 btw: It's easy to fall into that trap. Most retailers will show more info because of that "0 currently in stock, ships in approx x weeks" Apr 15 18:03:37 ugh Apr 15 18:04:04 more docs to write Apr 15 18:04:05 * nyt- cries Apr 15 18:04:06 haha Apr 15 18:04:15 I should be able to finish today at least Apr 15 19:03:47 has anyone used this camera with the beaglebone black? http://www.amazon.com/sunkee-OV7670-640X480-Compatible-Interface/dp/B00AZWVZKW/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1397587122&sr=1-1&keywords=ov7670 Apr 15 19:04:04 I am considering purchasing it but wanted to know if anyone had experience with it Apr 15 19:26:42 mistawright: is it really limited to 3.0V, not 3.3V? Apr 15 19:29:00 jkridner, that im not sure. I wanted a camera that I could use with the beaglebone that wouldnt require a $60+ cape or the use of the one usb port i have available Apr 15 19:29:45 I suspect writing PRU code to interface to that camera would be relatively straight-forward, but I'm concerned about the I/O voltage I see on that page. Apr 15 19:30:31 here is an early PRU camera hack: http://www.element14.com/community/community/knode/single-board_computers/next-gen_beaglebone/blog/2013/08/18/bbb--imaging-with-a-pru-connected-camera Apr 15 19:30:59 ....the heck? Apr 15 19:31:26 That's amusing. Apr 15 19:31:47 jkridner, thanks for the links Apr 15 19:31:49 Wow. It's like they reinvented DMA. Apr 15 19:33:09 http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/PRU_Projects likely has some more PRU camera hacks Apr 15 19:50:40 using the PRU to reinvent things that should be easy to do some other way seems like a common theme Apr 15 19:53:09 I love all these PRU hacks! Apr 15 19:53:13 * dwery too Apr 15 19:54:34 there's a Forth compiler for the PRU? Apr 15 19:54:41 that's kind of exciting Apr 15 19:56:46 okay, so it's an interpreter that runs on the PRU... Apr 15 19:56:49 interesting Apr 15 19:57:42 port brainfuck to it? Apr 15 19:57:47 or would that be redundant? Apr 15 19:58:08 no, it's a perl script... i'm not even sure Apr 15 19:58:17 the PRU isn't that bad Apr 15 19:58:45 some might argue that PRU assembly is more readable than perl Apr 15 19:59:53 some might argue that brainfuck... Apr 15 20:00:03 * myself scuttles back under his bridge Apr 15 20:29:12 comedy Apr 15 20:29:18 lol >some might argue that PRU assembly is more readable than perl Apr 15 20:32:06 who sed that? Apr 15 20:40:14 ahahaha Apr 16 00:48:41 Are there any known issues with the new Debian emmc flasher image? I've tried using it on 2 different cards and both give a Wrong Ramdisk Image Format when I tried to them. Apr 16 00:48:50 ...or did I dd it wrong? Apr 16 01:53:12 sirjorj_: I just flashed two BBBs today with the flasher image. Apr 16 01:53:41 hmmm... did you get the image from bittorrent? Apr 16 01:53:50 no, wget Apr 16 01:53:55 the md5sum checked out Apr 16 01:53:59 ok... the torrent one seems dead anyway... Apr 16 01:54:02 same here... Apr 16 01:54:16 I did have a problem once with changed the bs param in the dd Apr 16 01:54:25 i extracted the img file and dd'ed it on a mac... just like ive done before Apr 16 01:54:29 bs=1m seems to work reliably for me Apr 16 01:54:41 hmm... good to know... ill try that... Apr 16 01:55:23 I always refer to the adafruit instructions: https://learn.adafruit.com/beaglebone-black-installing-operating-systems/overview Apr 16 01:57:34 ok... adding the bs=1m makes dd go about 100 times faster... so thats nice! Apr 16 01:58:08 before it was about 100k per sec... now its about 10meg per sec... **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Apr 16 02:59:58 2014