**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Apr 16 02:59:58 2014
Apr 16 03:40:31 <sirjorj_> Ok, i think i tracked down the issue.  Has anyone successfully flashed this on a Rev B board?  My rev A5C succeeded but my rev B does not
Apr 16 05:22:46 <VAX_> Anyone know where you can get a beaglebone black .. absolutely no one has them in stock... Mine has been on order for 4 months! and now they cancelled the order
Apr 16 05:30:37 <KotH> VAX_: order from someone else
Apr 16 05:30:54 <KotH> yes, they are rare, but afaik the should ship within 3-5 weeks
Apr 16 05:31:41 <VAX_> tried every where the whole of europe has 0 stock!
Apr 16 05:31:56 <KotH> yes, that's known
Apr 16 05:32:13 <KotH> the bbb sels out faster than they can produce it
Apr 16 05:33:01 <VAX_> Import from the US adds import charges way too much!! Marketing nightmare .. at least you can buy a raspberry pi anywhere :)
Apr 16 05:34:44 <VAX_> ebay wants a fortune for them .. how does the Am3359 Beaglebone compare to the black?
Apr 16 05:35:11 * KotH does not know what a Am3359 Beaglebone is
Apr 16 05:35:26 <dogrocket> hello
Apr 16 05:35:31 <VAX_> the white dev board
Apr 16 05:35:36 <VAX_> hi
Apr 16 05:35:51 <KotH> a.. bbw and bbb... there is a comparison of those somewhere on beabgleboard.org
Apr 16 05:36:10 <KotH> or was it on elinux? something like that
Apr 16 05:36:16 <KotH> but there is a comparison somewhere
Apr 16 05:38:05 <VAX_> cheers thanks
Apr 16 05:38:31 <tbr> VAX_: 0 stock means you fell for the "OMG no stock means can't buy" trap
Apr 16 05:38:48 <tbr> VAX_: just place your order with a european distributor and you WILL get a BBB in due time
Apr 16 05:39:19 <tbr> and 4 months sounds like a shady disty
Apr 16 05:39:43 <tbr> go for the big ones
Apr 16 05:40:26 <dogrocket> try amazon.. sometimes they have them
Apr 16 05:40:58 <VAX_> TBR been on order for 4 months from RS .. just cancelled my order!
Apr 16 05:41:44 <tbr> prpplague: RS cancels BBB orders after keeping people waiting for 4 months?
Apr 16 05:41:58 <VAX_> dog rocket .. none on amazon .. some on ebay .. but silly money
Apr 16 05:42:33 <tbr> try element14
Apr 16 05:42:56 <dogrocket> sucks... element14 coming out with a chinese one soon i guess,
Apr 16 05:43:21 <dogrocket> logic supply is coming out with one too, but its 70$ not sure where its made
Apr 16 05:46:38 <dogrocket> they said they ordered 1,000 of them should be ready in may
Apr 16 05:48:01 <dogrocket> http://www.logicsupply.com/components/motherboards/arm/bb-bblk-000/
Apr 16 05:57:52 <shawnbon206> wha? each supplier has their own manufacturers?
Apr 16 07:09:41 <maoshouse> hi, does anyone know the maximum size microsd card that is supported by the beagleboard-xm?
Apr 16 07:09:55 <av500> any size
Apr 16 07:10:14 <maoshouse> great! thanks so much
Apr 16 07:11:11 <KotH> as long as it's not larger than a micro sd
Apr 16 07:11:53 <maoshouse> actually let me rephrase then
Apr 16 07:11:59 <maoshouse> maximum capacity?
Apr 16 07:12:04 <av500> any size
Apr 16 07:12:20 <maoshouse> :) thanks
Apr 16 07:13:00 <av500> 2TB in fact
Apr 16 07:14:41 <KotH> according to the current standard
Apr 16 07:15:05 <av500> that might be the limit as for block adressing
Apr 16 07:15:38 <av500> 32bit x 512 bytes/block
Apr 16 07:15:48 <av500> of couse if you change the blocksize ....
Apr 16 07:16:47 <LetoThe2nd> KotH: you mean, standard as in https://xkcd.com/927?
Apr 16 07:18:30 <KotH> are there any other standards?
Apr 16 07:18:53 <av500> "American Standard"
Apr 16 07:19:03 <av500> that one is pretty much down to earth
Apr 16 07:19:23 * LetoThe2nd prefers the russian standard.
Apr 16 07:19:24 <LetoThe2nd> http://russianstandardvodka.com/
Apr 16 07:19:56 <av500> LetoThe2nd: yes, you need the american after using the russian
Apr 16 07:20:46 <LetoThe2nd> av500: to cover all use cases?
Apr 16 08:52:24 <StevN> Hello everybody ! My BB work's great thanks to your help. But I have an other problem with PHP that i can't resolve.
Apr 16 08:52:37 <StevN> This code didn't work : echo exec('echo 38 > /sys/class/gpio/export');        echo exec('echo out > /sys/class/gpio/gpio38/direction');        echo exec('echo 1 > /sys/class/gpio/gpio38/value');
Apr 16 08:52:42 <nyt-> need to run as root
Apr 16 08:52:56 <StevN> wheras, in BB terminal it works
Apr 16 08:53:05 <nyt-> <nyt-> need to run as root
Apr 16 08:53:12 <nyt-> only root has permission to write to those files
Apr 16 08:53:26 <StevN> oh ok !
Apr 16 08:53:55 <StevN> how to get the root ?
Apr 16 08:54:12 <nyt-> adjust the web server config
Apr 16 08:54:41 <StevN> In lighttpd.conf ?
Apr 16 08:55:30 <nyt-> *Shrug* whichever webserver you're using
Apr 16 08:55:30 * LetoThe2nd runs away screaming as he hears "webserver" and "root" in the same conversation
Apr 16 08:55:34 <nyt-> yeah
Apr 16 08:55:35 <nyt-> exactly
Apr 16 08:55:43 <nyt-> not like the bb doesn't have a root console available by default
Apr 16 08:55:49 <nyt-> with the bonescript stuff
Apr 16 08:55:50 <nyt-> but hey
Apr 16 08:56:00 <nyt-> not my problem ;)
Apr 16 08:57:46 <StevN> x) Sorry for my newbies questions. Gonna take a look. Thanks !
Apr 16 08:57:56 <nyt-> documenting this friggen code is taking me longer than it took to write the code
Apr 16 08:57:59 * nyt- cries
Apr 16 09:33:11 * shawnbon206 cries too
Apr 16 09:51:30 <nyt-> https://github.com/notnyt/beaglebone
Apr 16 09:51:44 <nyt-> bout halfway done
Apr 16 10:10:10 <shawnbon206> youre tha man nyt-
Apr 16 10:18:22 <johnwalkr> good job nyt-
Apr 16 10:35:25 <CHARU> HI
Apr 16 10:35:39 <CHARU> I WANT TO RESTORE NAND FLASH OF BB
Apr 16 10:35:39 <nyt-> HELLO CHARU
Apr 16 10:35:49 <CHARU> MY BB IS NOT WORKING
Apr 16 10:35:58 <CHARU> HOW I CAN FACTORY RESET THE BB
Apr 16 10:36:01 <nyt-> PLZ SEE https://learn.adafruit.com/beaglebone-black-installing-operating-systems/flashing-the-beaglebone-black
Apr 16 10:36:21 * ogra_ shades his ears
Apr 16 10:36:22 <nyt-> or http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:Updating_The_Software
Apr 16 10:36:25 <nyt-> lol
Apr 16 10:36:56 <CHARU> i tried that but its not working
Apr 16 10:37:04 <nyt-> keep trying :(
Apr 16 10:37:12 <nyt-> or provide more info on why it isn't working
Apr 16 10:37:14 <CHARU> now i cant able to boot from nand flash
Apr 16 10:37:25 <nyt-> well, make sure the flashing completes
Apr 16 10:37:30 <nyt-> it takes almost an hour
Apr 16 10:38:21 <Dan1> CHARU: what were you doing directly before it stopped workin?
Apr 16 10:38:22 * nyt- back to documenting
Apr 16 10:39:01 <CHARU> Unknown command '^@' - try 'help'                     U-Boot# AT S7=45 S0=0 L1 V1 X4 &c1 E1 Q0              syntax error U-Boot#  U-Boot SPL 2013.10 (Nov 28 2013 - 06:36:11) reading args spl: error reading image args, err - -1 reading u-boot.img reading u-boot.img   U-Boot 2013.10 (Nov 28 2013 - 06:36:11)  I2C:   ready                                                                     DRAM:  512 MiB
Apr 16 10:39:38 <nyt-> well its reading a null instead of proper data
Apr 16 10:39:56 <CHARU> how i can restore it
Apr 16 10:40:00 <nyt-> your flash was not successful, maybe try rewriting your sd card or using a different one and monitor the progress of the flashing
Apr 16 10:43:46 <CHARU> i dont have externel power supply
Apr 16 10:44:01 <CHARU> is it reason for not flashing nanad
Apr 16 10:44:21 <CHARU> i connected bb through usb
Apr 16 10:44:22 <nyt-> if you have a decent usb power source it should be fine
Apr 16 10:44:30 <nyt-> what happens when you try to flash
Apr 16 10:44:43 <nyt-> system should boot, sit there for about an hour, then all 4 leds should go solid
Apr 16 10:44:45 <nyt-> did you wait for that?
Apr 16 10:44:50 <CHARU> only one power led is on
Apr 16 10:45:02 <CHARU> other four led is not turn off
Apr 16 10:45:09 <CHARU> sorry
Apr 16 10:45:16 <nyt-> follow the steps on the links I provided
Apr 16 10:45:18 <CHARU> other four leds not glow
Apr 16 10:45:19 <nyt-> you should be able to get it flashed
Apr 16 10:45:31 <CHARU> i tried that
Apr 16 10:45:46 <nyt-> how long did you wait for it to flash?
Apr 16 10:46:01 <nyt-> and did you hold reset when booting?
Apr 16 10:46:18 <nyt-> heh or is it boot
Apr 16 10:46:27 <nyt-> yeah boot, not reset
Apr 16 10:46:28 <nyt-> derp
Apr 16 10:46:55 <CHARU> i holding down user button 10 minutes down but that  the bank of 4 LED's not  light up
Apr 16 10:47:41 <nyt-> no
Apr 16 10:47:49 <nyt-> unplug power
Apr 16 10:47:53 <nyt-> hold boot
Apr 16 10:47:56 <nyt-> plug in power
Apr 16 10:48:00 <nyt-> all 4 should light up real quick
Apr 16 10:48:02 <nyt-> once they do let it go
Apr 16 10:48:09 <nyt-> or just let it go
Apr 16 10:48:16 <nyt-> it might be quicker than you can see
Apr 16 10:48:22 <nyt-> then it should boot
Apr 16 10:48:32 <nyt-> put an hdmi console on it or watch pstree to see what its doing once its booted
Apr 16 10:48:40 <nyt-> from there it takes about 45 minutes to flash
Apr 16 10:49:54 <CHARU> i dont have hdmi display
Apr 16 10:50:14 <CHARU> i am trying to monator using minicom
Apr 16 10:50:31 <CHARU> in minicom its showing neathing
Apr 16 10:52:12 <CHARU> can you give me latset armsrong banary link
Apr 16 10:54:30 <av500> http://beagleboard.org/latest-images
Apr 16 11:46:32 <nyt-> https://github.com/notnyt/beaglebone
Apr 16 11:46:35 <nyt-> and that's all I got in me tonight
Apr 16 13:06:23 <Iksplisit> Good morning dudes;P
Apr 16 13:08:00 <Iksplisit> has anyone done some face tracking on a moving camera?- camera follows object
Apr 16 13:09:35 <Iksplisit> chat room dead?
Apr 16 13:09:56 <LetoThe2nd> nah, face tracking is dead
Apr 16 13:15:43 <heeen> what is the difference between vdd5v and sys5v on p9
Apr 16 13:16:01 <heeen> one is regulated I guess and one is directly connected to the barell connector
Apr 16 13:16:02 <heeen> ?
Apr 16 13:25:54 <mistawright> heen, if one was using a 4.95 volt power source and wanted to power the beaglebone black through pins what would be the best pin to use then
Apr 16 13:45:20 <ioudas> has anyone created a kbdrate udev rule before? I have created the udev rule but its not applying or executing the script ive made.... just curious as to why. I have the right add, and id's
Apr 16 13:48:39 <alan_o> ioudas: http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html
Apr 16 13:48:52 <ioudas> yeah, been reading that ;-/
Apr 16 13:49:00 <alan_o> not sure the details of your situation.
Apr 16 13:49:00 <kmo_> Hi guys, i have a frustrating issue, which i hope someone can help m with
Apr 16 13:49:44 <kmo_> I use beaglebone (white) with my mac osx 10.9.2
Apr 16 13:50:07 <ioudas> i have a symbol scanner, it repeats keys on a linux distro i have....  it appears on plugin the kbdrate is reset
Apr 16 13:50:19 <ioudas> since the scanner has a long cord continual presses result in a repeating key
Apr 16 13:50:27 <ioudas> thus the need to set the rate
Apr 16 13:50:37 <ioudas> i believe /etc/kbd/config may be also my ticket
Apr 16 13:50:58 <kmo_> I have installed the drivers from beagleboard.org - and my board is recogniced as a device. however sometimes it's given a static address and some times it's given the address 192.168.7.2
Apr 16 13:51:33 <kmo_> how can i make sure it always connect to the internet with ip address 192.168.7.2
Apr 16 13:51:49 <kmo_> any help would be much appreciated
Apr 16 13:54:11 <myself> It sounds like "dhcp" is the term you want to start reading about :)
Apr 16 13:56:09 <kmo_> ok
Apr 16 13:58:12 <KotH> actually no. dhcp has nothing to do with rndis
Apr 16 13:58:29 <KotH> rndis has a weird ip distribution mechanism
Apr 16 13:58:36 <KotH> it works independently of anything
Apr 16 13:58:42 <KotH> sometimes it even works
Apr 16 13:59:07 <charu> hi please give me begle bone nand flashing link
Apr 16 13:59:29 <kmo_> what do you suggest koth?
Apr 16 13:59:35 <myself> oooh, I thought we were talking about its ethernet interface, didn't realize that was an rndis question. mea culpa.
Apr 16 13:59:38 <KotH> read up on rndis
Apr 16 13:59:54 <KotH> i have no idea how rndis works in detail, so i cannot suggest anything better than that
Apr 16 14:00:13 <kmo_> ok, thanks koth and myself
Apr 16 14:00:18 <myself> rndis is the bane of my existence lately, there's something hosed up about my work laptop so I'm using this spare one.. aaagh.
Apr 16 14:00:26 <charu> i want to flash bbb nand
Apr 16 14:00:31 <charu> hello
Apr 16 14:02:22 <LetoThe2nd> charu: googling for bbb debian eemc flasher should easily give you a link
Apr 16 14:03:17 <LetoThe2nd> charu: like http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardDebian#eMMC:_BeagleBone_Black
Apr 16 14:03:26 <LetoThe2nd> charu: but of course you found that yourself, right?
Apr 16 14:04:45 <charu> i want procedure
Apr 16 14:04:52 <charu> actully ilost that link
Apr 16 14:05:12 <charu> hold user button and then ked blink
Apr 16 14:05:26 <LetoThe2nd> charu: please just read what i gave you. thanks.
Apr 16 14:08:16 <charu> U-Boot SPL 2011.09-00000-gf63b270-dirty (Nov 20 2011 - 19:58:24)                 Texas Instruments Revision detection unimplemented                               Incorrect magic number in EEPROM                                                 read_eeprom() failure
Apr 16 14:08:41 <charu> how i can recover my nand
Apr 16 14:08:52 <charu> i didnt get ans from above link
Apr 16 14:10:16 <charu> hi plz give me solution
Apr 16 14:10:19 <charu> U-Boot SPL 2011.09-00000-gf63b270-dirty (Nov 20 2011 - 19:58:24)                 Texas Instruments Revision detection unimplemented                               Incorrect magic number in EEPROM                                                 read_eeprom() failure
Apr 16 14:11:58 <LetoThe2nd> charu: you are not listening.
Apr 16 14:12:06 <LetoThe2nd> charu: open that link, read it follow it.
Apr 16 14:12:12 <LetoThe2nd> charu: and use the image given there.
Apr 16 14:12:35 <charu> ok i will try thanks
Apr 16 14:12:45 <LetoThe2nd> charu: reading your *OWN* error message shows that you are using something *NOT* usable on the BBB (u-boot 2011... BBB was released in 2013)
Apr 16 14:13:34 <av500> and there is no NAND either
Apr 16 14:13:39 <ogra_> unless it came out of the TI-Crystal-Ball dept.
Apr 16 14:15:16 <myself> I demand that someone else do all my work for me!!!!!!!!11
Apr 16 14:15:26 * myself throws his soup
Apr 16 14:26:54 <Dan1> myself: im happy to do it for you... for a cost.... but i should warn you its probably all going to be wrong once i finish it :)
Apr 16 16:08:08 <someonerandom> test
Apr 16 16:08:13 <someonerandom> Hello.
Apr 16 16:08:42 <someonerandom> I have a question.  I was thinking of connecting a bunch of beagleboards together and then running a distributed Erlang app on them.
Apr 16 16:09:05 <someonerandom> If my memory serves me correctly, there should be a linux distro for that purpose that will run on BeagleBoard, yes?
Apr 16 16:10:25 <jkridner> someonerandom: maybe  you mean Nerves
Apr 16 16:11:44 <someonerandom> I've heard of Nerves, but I think that this is something entirely different.
Apr 16 16:14:18 <someonerandom> Actually, now that I have done more reading, it is nerves.
Apr 16 16:14:20 <someonerandom> Thanks.
Apr 16 18:30:04 <mistawright> im looking at the beagleboard kernel github and not sure if I am able to build a 3.14 kernel. it doesnt list it but it seems i was able to specify 3.14 and pull a patchset
Apr 16 18:30:33 <jkridner> mistawright: what do you mean by "doesn't list it?
Apr 16 18:31:44 <mistawright> jkridner, in the readme.md file it has  usage section that shows patchsets for 3.8, 3.12 and 3.13 i looked at this after issueing the command for 3.14
Apr 16 18:32:04 <jkridner> probably just because 3.14 isn't well tested yet.
Apr 16 18:48:34 <mistawright> any reason why pulling a patchset from git is slow?
Apr 16 19:19:19 <jonwooding> Could anyone point me in the direction of some resources for ssh into Beaglebone Black using direct ethernet connection (no router)?  Or how to set up ssh over USB for BBB running Ubuntu 13.10 Saucy?
Apr 16 19:24:19 <prpplague> jonwooding: http://beagleboard.org/Getting%20Started
Apr 16 19:25:29 <jonwooding> prpplague: The Angstrom distro has USB ssh set up out of the box, but after upgrading to Saucy it doesn't seem to work.  I can ssh through a router using ethernet with no trouble but would like to directly connect.
Apr 16 19:26:13 <prpplague> jonwooding: ahh right didn't notice you were using a custom distro
Apr 16 19:26:26 <prpplague> jonwooding: you'll to check with whoever/wherever you got that image from
Apr 16 19:26:53 <jonwooding> Yeah, shame on me :/  Honestly I could probably go back to Angstrom but I've got a lot of custom libraries and everything already built and configured in Saucy (and a deadline next week!) :)
Apr 16 19:59:10 * nyt- yawns
Apr 16 19:59:10 <nyt-> hi
Apr 16 20:02:35 <nyt-> almost done w/ docs lol, should be able to finish tonight at least https://github.com/notnyt/beaglebone
Apr 16 20:14:51 <mthiffau> Question about UART configuration/starterware: If I don't want to use FIFOs/interrupts (writing some polling IO debug functions), do I still need to call the FIFO enable code (setting the fifo size/granularity to 1)?
Apr 16 20:26:16 <mthiffau> How often are there bare metal developers in here? I keep asking those sorts of questions and getting nothing. Maybe I'm just unlucky in terms of timing.
Apr 16 20:27:04 * KotH does bare metäl, but mostly on Cortex-M3
Apr 16 20:27:22 <KotH> mthiffau: but your question should be answered by the TRM
Apr 16 20:27:55 <mthiffau> I've read through the
Apr 16 20:28:07 <mthiffau> TRM, but it just assumes you are going to use FIFOs and tells you to enable them
Apr 16 20:28:23 <KotH> thn you have to read between the lines
Apr 16 20:28:34 <agmlego> Or, you know, try it and see?
Apr 16 20:28:56 <KotH> koen's rule #3 always applies
Apr 16 20:30:49 <mthiffau> I did try it. If I call none of the config code at all (and don't reset the device), then I can write characters because uboot configured the UART for me. But that doesn't help me if I want to change things. If I use the starterware example code, minus the FIFO config function, it doesn't work (I get nothing).
Apr 16 20:31:18 <agmlego> Then maybe you have to have FIFos.
Apr 16 20:31:22 <agmlego> Just saying.
Apr 16 20:31:45 <KotH> then you have to ask someone from TI
Apr 16 20:31:53 <KotH> it's unlikely anyone here knows the silicon details
Apr 16 20:32:20 <KotH> if the TRM doesnt tell you waht you need to know, the only ones who know are the people from TI (if they have not been laid off yet)
Apr 16 20:33:15 <mthiffau> Yeah I'll try them I guess. It's disheartening to have to ask them though, considering how horrific the starterware code is. It doesn't inspire confidence :P
Apr 16 20:33:29 <KotH> welll
Apr 16 20:33:40 <KotH> BSP's in generall are horrible
Apr 16 20:33:58 <KotH> they cost a lot to do, cost even more to maintain and don't bring any money
Apr 16 20:35:10 <mthiffau> It's a pretty neccessary part of having a successful hardware business though :P. You can't expect to sell many platforms if it's a massive pain in the ass to get things brought up. I guess most people are just using linux and don't care because somebody else has done the work already.
Apr 16 20:35:24 <KotH> really?
Apr 16 20:35:42 <KotH> why does none of the BSPs of any silicon vendor work out of the box, then?
Apr 16 20:35:46 <agmlego> KotH: BSP in this context is...?
Apr 16 20:35:54 <KotH> board support package
Apr 16 20:36:05 <agmlego> I figured as much, but there are many TLAs. ;-P
Apr 16 20:36:08 <KotH> ie, the software you need to run anything on the stuff
Apr 16 20:36:10 <agmlego> Yeah.
Apr 16 20:37:20 <mthiffau> I've been told that TI is much more interested in having you pay for one of their consultants to come to your company and just make it work for you up to the point where you can take over, rather than providing good documentation/bsp/etc.
Apr 16 20:37:42 <KotH> mthiffau: for reference: freescale has an internal linux build system called LTIB. it has not seen any maintenance since the guy who wrote it left the company something like 5y ago
Apr 16 20:38:05 <KotH> mthiffau: it's the same with all silicon vendors
Apr 16 20:38:32 <mthiffau> I'm not trying to make the argument that TI is worse than anyone else. Doesn't change the fact that it's frustrating :P
Apr 16 20:38:41 <KotH> mthiffau: heck, broadcom and qualcomm do for you the whole low level software. and you dont have to do anything for that
Apr 16 20:38:55 <KotH> they even do it for free
Apr 16 20:39:03 <KotH> with onsite engineers and everything
Apr 16 20:39:21 <KotH> you just need to buy >10mio chips per year
Apr 16 20:39:41 <mthiffau> Which as a university student I'm not exactly in a position to do :P
Apr 16 20:40:10 <agmlego> Then you deal with the BSP and quit bitching. ;-P
Apr 16 20:40:16 <KotH> stick with companies that traget low volume production
Apr 16 20:40:24 <KotH> TI is quite good, Atmel too
Apr 16 20:40:25 <agmlego> Or, start your own silicon house and offer a better product.
Apr 16 20:41:52 <KotH> agmlego: unless you have mio's to spare, no chance in hell to succeede
Apr 16 20:42:16 <agmlego> I do not know what mio means.
Apr 16 20:42:23 <KotH> millions
Apr 16 20:42:23 <Vaizki> Million
Apr 16 20:42:34 <KotH> an abrevation used by more civilized countries ;)
Apr 16 20:42:39 <agmlego> THat is a dumb abbreviation.
Apr 16 20:42:46 <agmlego> An uppercase M works just fine.
Apr 16 20:42:52 <agmlego> SI says so. ;-P
Apr 16 20:43:07 <KotH> usians often confuse upper and lower case M
Apr 16 20:43:26 <agmlego> Not in my experience.
Apr 16 20:43:34 <agmlego> As a USian.
Apr 16 20:44:05 <KotH> yeah.. you've never seen milimirco and kilomega either?
Apr 16 20:44:47 <agmlego> Uh, no. Who the fuck does that anymore?
Apr 16 20:45:03 <KotH> i read it once in a while
Apr 16 20:45:08 <thurgood> old people
Apr 16 20:45:18 <agmlego> I know *really* old stuff was frequently in compound units like that.
Apr 16 20:45:30 <KotH> funny thing that it has been replaced by the Si system something like 100 years ago.. but it looks like not everyone got the memo yet
Apr 16 20:45:38 <agmlego> But that has not been anywhere near standard for around 30 years at least.
Apr 16 20:49:03 <KotH> as i said, i find it funny to see it anywhere as it has been replaced by the si system 100y ago.. in the us that is
Apr 16 21:09:30 <foreverska_> My PRU headers seem to be wrong.  prussdrv_pru_clear_event has two parameters but TI's website only shows one.  Anyone have any idea what's going on?
Apr 16 21:55:06 <Crypto_> hey guys.  anyone here?
Apr 16 21:55:29 <thurgood> lots of people here... most are lurking though
Apr 16 21:55:56 <Crypto_> 's what i figured
Apr 16 21:56:07 <Crypto_> you got any beaglebone knowledge?
Apr 16 21:56:14 <_av500_> nah
Apr 16 21:56:21 <_av500_> we would not be here then would we?
Apr 16 21:56:29 <agmlego> Crypto_: Yes, it starts by reading the topic and the links therein.
Apr 16 21:56:31 <Crypto_> i thought that -right- after i said that
Apr 16 21:56:47 <thurgood> mostly beagle board for me, but some of it is general, rather than specific to either
Apr 16 21:57:02 * _av500_ knows how to google
Apr 16 21:58:27 <Crypto_> so i found a list of compatable USB hubs, but mine wasn't on the list.  It worked for a couple sessions and now wont work at all on the beagle.  ive read about the beagle having some weird issues with power over USB, it flashes on, then doesnt register a thing.  ive seen that this is a common problem on forums but no one has posted anything about fixing it.
Apr 16 21:59:26 <nyt-> use a supported hub, one with its own power, or provide your bb with adequate power
Apr 16 22:00:11 <thurgood> I don't know why a board would 'not' be supported if it was powered and a decent brand
Apr 16 22:00:47 <nyt-> what could go wrong
Apr 16 22:01:03 <_av500_> power the BBB from 5V
Apr 16 22:01:07 <_av500_> thats the best way
Apr 16 22:01:12 <_av500_> USB power can be tricky
Apr 16 22:01:22 <Crypto_> yeah its a dynex 4 port, not too fancy.  i figured power might be my issue.  my 5v wall adapter is on the way.  Tried a 5v 500mah usb-to wall thing, and a 1000mah one, and still doesnt work too well
Apr 16 22:01:48 <Crypto_> i work at an ecig shop and have acvcess to hella usb adapters and most of them i feel are insufficent
Apr 16 22:01:59 <_av500_> 1000mA should work
Apr 16 22:02:02 <_av500_> for sure
Apr 16 22:02:45 <Crypto_> the 1000mah ones i have are really low quality and are really 1000mah +/-5% and i dont wanna fry my board
Apr 16 22:02:52 <thurgood> .5Amps may not be enough, it would allow the bone to run full speed if you power with a usb port
Apr 16 22:03:10 <thurgood> would NOT
Apr 16 22:03:39 <Crypto_> the extra potential 5% woudlnt screw the pooch?
Apr 16 22:04:48 <_av500_> 5%?
Apr 16 22:05:22 <Crypto_> its 1000mah +/-5%
Apr 16 22:05:29 <_av500_> ignore that
Apr 16 22:05:30 <Crypto_> really bad QA chinese usb adapter
Apr 16 22:05:31 <Crypto_> oh ok
Apr 16 22:06:02 <Crypto_> im gonna order a powered USB hub too.  kinda puts a kink in my project but ill make due.  what are you doing with your bbb?
Apr 16 22:06:16 <_av500_> nothing
Apr 16 22:06:18 <_av500_> :)
Apr 16 22:06:24 <thurgood> the voltage is more important than the current as long as the current is sufficient
Apr 16 22:07:01 <Crypto_> nothing?  yeah im learning electrical theory by osmosis working with batteries and power all da y
Apr 16 22:07:18 <foundatron> I've got a about the 3 powered hubs that've used with my bbbs
Apr 16 22:07:25 <foundatron> no problems with any of them
Apr 16 22:07:29 <foundatron> I haven't been picky
Apr 16 22:07:39 <foundatron> just ordered whatever is cheapest on amazon
Apr 16 22:07:53 <foundatron> probably not the best way to do it, but so far so good
Apr 16 22:09:36 <foundatron> What i'm interested in is power supplies. in audiophiles circles folks always talk about linear vs switching power supplies. Switching being the more common but noisier ones.
Apr 16 22:09:59 <foundatron> anyone got a good recommendation on bbb compatible linear power supply
Apr 16 22:10:04 <foundatron> ( i know nothing)
Apr 16 22:10:33 <foreverska_> Why would you care about noise to your BB?
Apr 16 22:12:03 <nyt-> ok
Apr 16 22:12:04 <nyt-> rule #1
Apr 16 22:12:07 <nyt-> audiophiles are retarded
Apr 16 22:12:23 <foreverska_> -.- lol
Apr 16 22:12:50 <foundatron> dude, my mom was an audiophile
Apr 16 22:13:11 <nyt-> sorry about your luck?
Apr 16 22:13:23 <foundatron> try to be sensitive
Apr 16 22:13:36 <nyt-> I'll say a prayer
Apr 16 22:14:12 <agmlego> It is a terrible condition.
Apr 16 22:14:26 <agmlego> Loss of quality of life and dignity, and always such a messy end.
Apr 16 22:14:35 <foundatron> That said, there some very cool things being done with high quality hifi on the beaglebone
Apr 16 22:14:35 <agmlego> Totally incurable too.
Apr 16 22:14:49 <nyt-> lol wat?
Apr 16 22:14:58 <nyt-> high quality hifi?
Apr 16 22:15:07 <foreverska_> .... These audiophiles you speak of would crucify you for saying hifi and beaglebone in the same sentence
Apr 16 22:15:46 <foundatron> meh
Apr 16 22:15:55 <nyt-> well... beaglebone has an hdmi output.... so you'll get the same quality audio there as you would from any other digital audio output
Apr 16 22:16:06 <foundatron> by using it as a source
Apr 16 22:16:25 <foundatron> and connecting to adac you can get great results
Apr 16 22:16:34 <foreverska_> ....
Apr 16 22:16:35 <nyt-> that has nothing to do with the beaglebone lol
Apr 16 22:16:43 <nyt-> any digital source would be the same
Apr 16 22:16:53 <nyt-> except probably have less latency and jitter issues
Apr 16 22:16:54 <foundatron> Using the beaglebone to regular output
Apr 16 22:16:57 <nyt-> since you know isngle core
Apr 16 22:17:03 <foundatron> and whether you down sample and wot not
Apr 16 22:17:11 <nyt-> like i said
Apr 16 22:17:16 <nyt-> <nyt-> audiophiles are retarded
Apr 16 22:18:11 <foreverska_> ...so you want to record audio using the ADC of your BB?
Apr 16 22:19:43 <nyt-> no ska
Apr 16 22:19:46 <nyt-> theyre powering usb dacs
Apr 16 22:20:00 <nyt-> its the latest audiotard trend
Apr 16 22:20:25 <nyt-> low impedance cans and silly usb adacs
Apr 16 22:20:37 <foreverska_> ... What...
Apr 16 22:21:37 <nyt-> http://www.head-fi.org/products/category/amp-dacs
Apr 16 22:21:40 <foreverska_> If you're outputting digital why give a flying f*ck about the power supply?
Apr 16 22:22:06 <nyt-> <nyt-> <nyt-> audiophiles are retarded
Apr 16 22:22:39 <foreverska_> Kids these days.  Go buy a record player like a good hipster.
Apr 16 22:22:41 <nyt-> seriously some of these tards are spending thousands on usb dacs with tube amps
Apr 16 22:24:12 <foreverska_> All so they can fake analog media... well done.
Apr 16 22:25:05 <nyt-> http://www.stereophile.com/digitalprocessors/ayre_acoustics_qb-9_usb_dac/
Apr 16 22:25:06 <nyt-> its hilarious
Apr 16 22:25:43 <nyt-> they'd probably shit themselves if they heard real analog media
Apr 16 22:25:47 <nyt-> zomg the cracks and pops and noise floor
Apr 16 22:25:54 <nyt-> anyway
Apr 16 22:26:09 <nyt-> that concludes my audiophile hate session for today
Apr 16 22:26:14 <nyt-> until one of them says something else stupid
Apr 16 22:26:17 <nyt-> its only a matter of time
Apr 16 22:27:44 <foreverska_> I wouldn't mind a resurgence of tape reels.  Those were cool looking atleast.
Apr 16 22:28:25 <nyt-> i'm happy with digital
Apr 16 22:28:36 <nyt-> dont have to worry about my vinyl getting scratched or my tapes stretched or any stupid issues
Apr 16 22:28:40 <nyt-> or storing all the media
Apr 16 22:29:42 <foreverska_> I have a record player in the living room but 99.9% of the time I listen to digital.
Apr 16 22:33:06 <nyt-> my tables have been disconnected for some time now
Apr 16 22:45:07 <foreverska_> I can't get angstrom flasher to boot for the life of me.  I used to do it over and over and since I flashed debian I can't get any sdcard to boot
Apr 17 00:44:14 <bt> greetings from Wisconsin
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