**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Apr 22 02:59:58 2014
Apr 22 05:49:12 <foreverska_> I dd /dev/zero my sdcard and now it only shows 10mb.  How do I fix this?
Apr 22 06:10:52 <nyt-> it shouldnt so anything
Apr 22 06:10:55 <nyt-> should be written over with 0's
Apr 22 06:11:02 <nyt-> what did you actually write to
Apr 22 06:11:51 * nyt- yawns
Apr 22 06:15:54 <foreverska_> the card... its odd because in my XP VM it says it's 14.8 gigs but in linux fdisk says 10MB
Apr 22 06:17:12 <foreverska_> What the actual...  The beagle says the right size too
Apr 22 06:31:05 <nyt-> what command did you run
Apr 22 06:31:07 <nyt-> and did you fdisk it after
Apr 22 06:32:32 <foreverska_> sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sde
Apr 22 06:32:46 <nyt-> and you reboot after that?
Apr 22 06:32:56 <nyt-> or run fdisk/
Apr 22 06:33:01 <foreverska_> reboot?  The computer.
Apr 22 06:33:05 <nyt-> the bb
Apr 22 06:33:19 <foreverska_> I did the DD from the pc
Apr 22 06:33:37 <nyt-> ah, and did you fdisk it?
Apr 22 06:34:20 <foreverska_> Maybe at one point by immediately after I tired to dd the new image to it and it ran out of space.  Then I fdisked it and saw it reported 10MB
Apr 22 06:34:43 <nyt-> well
Apr 22 06:34:49 <nyt-> you wrote the partition table
Apr 22 06:34:51 <nyt-> but its prob corrupt
Apr 22 06:35:03 <nyt-> so rewrite it proper
Apr 22 06:36:21 <foreverska_> The PC refuses to acknowledge its bigger than 10mb (except in dmesg).  The virtual box sees all 16 gig and the BB sees all 16 gigs.
Apr 22 06:45:40 <foreverska> restarting the computer seems to have helped
Apr 22 07:34:16 <rob_w> got i interesting thing ,  i resoldered a new emmc to the BBB ( 8GB csd_ver 7) .. took a quick patch to the kernel when booting from the externall mmc and i can use the emmc .. but u-boot still fails to read the partitions
Apr 22 07:35:48 * KotH differentiates calculus 
Apr 22 07:42:16 * calculus integrates itself back
Apr 22 07:43:54 * KotH adds a constant to calculus 
Apr 22 07:52:43 <BBB_> hi
Apr 22 07:54:34 <BBB_> I just downloaded debian 7.4 for BBB, I boot it from SD, leds are the only thing work, the OS doesnot work at all
Apr 22 07:54:54 <BBB_> I used Pi Filler to write it on the SD
Apr 22 07:56:52 <BBB_> any Clues ???
Apr 22 07:57:50 <KotH> what does "does not work" mean?
Apr 22 07:58:10 <KotH> and just for the record: "does not work" is not an error description
Apr 22 08:06:02 <rob_w> is there a u-boot change to support ext_csd.rev = 7 emmc cards ?
Apr 22 08:06:21 <rob_w> my u-boot fails to get the partition layout on such one
Apr 22 08:08:44 <BBB_> KotH : I got this error mmcblk0: error -110
Apr 22 08:10:22 <BBB_> KotH  : ext4-fs error (device mmcblkop2): --ext4_get_inode_loc:3761: inode # 2181: block 270: comm node : unable to read ot able block
Apr 22 08:11:48 <rob_w> is it mandatory to use a GPT partition table on the emmc ? or is a simple fdisk table ok to use ?
Apr 22 08:40:13 <KotH> BBB_: well, then you know what the problem is, dont you?
Apr 22 08:40:36 <KotH> rob_w: afaik noone uses GPT on sdcards
Apr 22 08:40:56 <rob_w> kk
Apr 22 08:41:29 <rob_w> seems my u-boot can read the uEnv.txt from the emmc but yet it fails to read partitions and therefore not finding my kernel
Apr 22 08:41:44 <BBB_> KotH : actually I don't know
Apr 22 08:42:17 <BBB_> KotH : I think I go and flash ubuntu and forget about debian
Apr 22 08:44:07 <rob_w> hmm mmcinfo returns good looking data ..
Apr 22 08:47:43 <KotH> BBB_: your kernel couldnt read the mmc for some reason
Apr 22 08:47:55 <KotH> BBB_: either you specified the wrong one, or the driver is missing
Apr 22 08:48:12 <KotH> BBB_: i cannot tell anything from that one line (which is most probably just a secondary error of an earlier error)
Apr 22 08:51:15 <rob_w> ah ..
Apr 22 08:51:38 <rob_w> i notice that my boot partittions on the emmc are bigger then the original ones ..
Apr 22 08:51:51 <rob_w> might this be a offset issue ?
Apr 22 08:53:02 <KotH> should not
Apr 22 08:53:22 <KotH> unless you access anything relative to the beginning of the mmc instead of partition relative
Apr 22 08:53:44 <rob_w> no . .i just doing the basic mmc stuff as before
Apr 22 08:54:34 <rob_w> see , this is a test if we could replace the emmc .. so i bought a new 8GB emmc , our process seems tobe fine, as i can use it when i boot from external sd
Apr 22 08:55:05 <rob_w> i just hope the the am335x is able to handle emmc 4.5 > cards during u-boot
Apr 22 08:55:38 <rob_w> but as i am already reach the  u-boot cmd line ,, i should be getting over .. maybe
Apr 22 08:55:57 <rob_w> the error seems tobe during mmc_snd_cmd ..
Apr 22 08:56:07 <rob_w> mmc_send_cmd: timedout waiting on cmd inhibit to clear
Apr 22 08:56:24 <rob_w> is the best message i can get when trying to see partitions or such
Apr 22 10:36:10 <BBB_> Koth : Thnx for help
Apr 22 10:36:23 <BBB_> How can I format the emmc in BBB
Apr 22 10:36:26 <BBB_> ?
Apr 22 10:41:09 <BBB_> Or what I should delete from the emmc to run a clean os without error, cuz so far I have tried more than 3 ubuntu versions and 2 debian versions, The only one works correctly is the angstrom but other either can't boot from emmc or gives me a blank screen and can't access using ssh
Apr 22 10:41:47 <parham_> hi
Apr 22 10:42:25 <parham_> i need help in using a raspberry pi camera in c++ can anyone help me ?
Apr 22 10:42:46 <ogra_> how about asking in a raspberry pi channel for that ?
Apr 22 10:43:23 <dastaan> here..this might be helpful. http://learn.adafruit.com/downloads/pdf/beaglebone-black-installing-operating-systems.pdf @BBB
Apr 22 10:43:29 <tbr> BBB_: that might depend a lot on what you expect those images to do.
Apr 22 10:44:06 <dastaan> parham: why don't go to #raspberrypi@freenode ?
Apr 22 10:44:24 <BBB_> tbr : all I need is a command line either ubuntu or Debian that it flashed on the emmc
Apr 22 10:44:46 <tbr> BBB_: that sure has worked for me in the past with the debian images
Apr 22 10:44:55 <LetoThe2nd> BBB_: the debian images are certainly ok
Apr 22 10:45:05 <LetoThe2nd> BBB_: probably your sd card is just broken.
Apr 22 10:45:38 <sachin> Hi All, I just got beagle board black with Ubuntu loaded.
Apr 22 10:46:01 <sachin> Now I have connected Ethernet cable and USB cable
Apr 22 10:46:07 <andy19781> where can I report bugs in the documentation?
Apr 22 10:46:12 <parham_> the trick must be same no matter which board , i know how to typ the comman to take the picture but i want to run the command in c++
Apr 22 10:46:17 <sachin> configured eth0 to manual
Apr 22 10:46:31 <tbr> parham_: you're still wrong here, we don't know about rpi.
Apr 22 10:46:34 <LetoThe2nd> parham_: no, and you are wrong here.
Apr 22 10:46:37 <BBB_> LetoThe2nd : I just flashed angstrom and it works like a charm !!!
Apr 22 10:46:40 <dastaan> use opencv @ parham
Apr 22 10:46:48 <sachin> how to connect or mount rootfs on my local ubuntu machine
Apr 22 10:46:51 <LetoThe2nd> BBB_: that means exactly nothing.
Apr 22 10:47:55 <parham_> i am using opencv but it would not take the picture it can only read the taken picture
Apr 22 10:48:01 <BBB_> LetoThe2nd : when I flash Debian or ubuntu 13. I got a blank screen with no ssh access
Apr 22 10:48:10 <dastaan> pm
Apr 22 10:49:04 <LetoThe2nd> BBB_: i didn't say anything about ubuntu, as i do not know these images.
Apr 22 10:49:39 <LetoThe2nd> BBB_: you probably should start the debian flasher and see what its doing by logging in through the serial port
Apr 22 10:50:55 <BBB_> LetoThe2nd : The problem is not in the Debian, the problem in my emmc I need to erase it and copy debian to /dev/ but how can I erase this emmc
Apr 22 10:51:58 <LetoThe2nd> BBB_: i think you are wrong there.
Apr 22 10:52:07 <andy19781> I found https://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/issues/list but doesn't look like this is the correct plase for documentation bugs
Apr 22 10:52:17 <BBB_> LetoThe2nd: /dev/mmcblk1/
Apr 22 10:52:19 <LetoThe2nd> BBB_: the emmc-flasher images should fix the emmc to their needs.
Apr 22 10:52:40 <tbr> exactly
Apr 22 10:52:45 <tbr> no need for any manual doing
Apr 22 10:52:49 <BBB_> LetoThe2nd : Oh I see
Apr 22 10:54:13 <BBB_> LetoThe2nd : I will try to boot again the emmc Debian, I hope it works
Apr 22 10:54:58 <LetoThe2nd> BBB_: -> http://beagleboard.org/latest-images
Apr 22 10:55:06 <LetoThe2nd> BBB_: -> http://debian.beagleboard.org/images/BBB-eMMC-flasher-debian-7.4-2014-04-14-2gb.img.xz
Apr 22 10:55:47 <BBB_> LetoThe2nd : I already downloaded that
Apr 22 10:55:53 <BBB_> LetoThe2nd : thnx for help
Apr 22 10:58:46 <BBB_> LetoThe2nd : Iam using the Pi Filler to write the image on the SD card, Is that ok ???
Apr 22 10:59:00 <LetoThe2nd> BBB_: no idea.
Apr 22 10:59:46 <LetoThe2nd> BBB_: any sane operating system provides dd, which works for me. and for insane operating systems, i do not care.
Apr 22 11:00:55 <LetoThe2nd> (after unxz'ing, of course)
Apr 22 11:01:22 <BBB_> LetoThe2nd : I got it thnx a lot
Apr 22 11:28:12 <BBB_> how to ssh from mac Debian ??? I tried this doe not work  ssh -l debian@192.168.0.106
Apr 22 11:28:34 <BBB_>  ssh  debian@192.168.0.106
Apr 22 11:30:11 <LetoThe2nd> *if* 192.168.0.106 is the correct ip address and *if* the flasher succeeded (all 4 LEDs solid on) then you should be able to ping/ssh into it, yes.
Apr 22 11:30:35 <BBB_> all 4 leds solid on right now
Apr 22 11:30:52 <LetoThe2nd> then remove card and reboot
Apr 22 11:32:15 <BBB_> LetoThe2nd : removed the SD card and pressed reset button (now leds are not working at all )
Apr 22 11:32:30 <LetoThe2nd> do not use the reset button, do a hard power cacly
Apr 22 11:32:38 <LetoThe2nd> *cycle
Apr 22 11:32:41 <BBB_> LetoThe2nd : Oh I see
Apr 22 11:33:21 <BBB_> 4 leds are working now with error omap2 are not supported
Apr 22 11:33:30 <BBB_> then screen goes to black
Apr 22 11:33:51 <LetoThe2nd> ok and can you ping/ssh?
Apr 22 11:35:07 <BBB_> LetoThe2nd : no its the same ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.106 port 22: Operation timed out
Apr 22 11:35:21 <LetoThe2nd> and how do you know that 0.106 is correct?
Apr 22 11:35:32 <LetoThe2nd> have you verified that in you dhcp?
Apr 22 11:36:16 <BBB_> LetoThe2nd : sorry It was wrong
Apr 22 11:36:25 <BBB_> LetoThe2nd : 192.168.1.106
Apr 22 11:36:49 <BBB_> IT IS POSSIBLE THAT SOMEONE IS DOING SOMETHING NASTY! Someone could be eavesdropping on you right now (man-in-the-middle attack)! It is also possible that a host key has just been changed. The fingerprint for the RSA key sent by the remote host is 1a:b7:f3:3b:28:51:e0:79:5c:17:01:5b:9b:ec:f2:7a. Please contact your system administrator. Add correct host key in /Users/macman/.ssh/known_hosts to get rid of this message. Offending RSA key i
Apr 22 11:37:10 <LetoThe2nd> stop pasting such huge amounts of useless text
Apr 22 11:37:33 <BBB_> LetoThe2nd : sry for that
Apr 22 11:37:33 <LetoThe2nd> and obviously the bbb is fine, as it accepts an incoming ssh connection.
Apr 22 11:37:40 <LetoThe2nd> rest is up to you.
Apr 22 11:38:04 <BBB_> LetoThe2nd : thnx a lot for help
Apr 22 11:54:38 <BBB_> LetoThe2nd : I fixed the ssh, but what is the password of Debian ???
Apr 22 11:56:52 <LetoThe2nd> BBB_: open http://beagleboard.org/latest-images, click "more info" next to the link, find for yourself
Apr 22 12:01:33 <BBB_> LetoThe2nd : That is why I am asking because i found on google it is debian, but that does not work
Apr 22 12:02:48 <BBB_> temppwd
Apr 22 12:22:28 <alex20032> rocky|quadcopter: Hey
Apr 22 12:23:22 <alex20032> What I was talking about is that there is no floating point on PRU... if the algorithm that need to be run in real time need floating point, then PRU cant do it... and if PRU cant do it, how to do it in real time?
Apr 22 12:23:36 <LetoThe2nd> learn about fixed point
Apr 22 12:24:04 <XorA> get an old school beagle with DSP :-)
Apr 22 12:29:56 <LetoThe2nd> hrhr
Apr 22 14:15:03 <praveendath92> Hello! Anyone has some recommendations about how to use beaglebone to create and or connect to wifi networks ?
Apr 22 14:18:27 <myself> have you googled for it?
Apr 22 14:18:56 <praveendath92> I have tried a couple of ways with no success.
Apr 22 14:20:58 <praveendath92> Hoping I could hear a way in which someone is successful already.
Apr 22 14:21:13 <nyt-> insert usb wifi card
Apr 22 14:21:17 <nyt-> connect to network
Apr 22 14:21:34 <nyt-> ^ tutorial
Apr 22 14:21:55 <nyt-> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00762YNMG/ref=oh_details_o05_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Apr 22 14:21:56 <nyt-> these work good
Apr 22 14:22:28 <myself> can you share the details of which ways you tried, what failures you encountered, etc? Links to tutorials, and pastebin your error messages, is a good way to start.
Apr 22 14:22:49 <agmlego> AKA, read and follow the directions in the topic.
Apr 22 14:23:00 <praveendath92> Thanks nyt-
Apr 22 14:23:54 <praveendath92> myself, a friend of mine was trying them out. I will find out the details and get back?
Apr 22 14:29:34 <corrosion> Hi. Does any one know how the BeagleBones are flashed at the factory? What is the procedure to flash thousands of units at once..
Apr 22 14:29:54 <agmlego> There exists a JTAG port.
Apr 22 14:30:58 <LetoThe2nd> you can also order your flash preprogrammed. or use a gang programmer.
Apr 22 14:31:47 <nyt-> direct access to the emmc is exposed on p8 as well
Apr 22 14:31:57 <KotH> LetoThe2nd: we once had microchip refusing to sell us pre-programmed chips. the volume was too high for them :)
Apr 22 14:32:13 <LetoThe2nd> KotH: well, microchip....
Apr 22 14:32:25 <LetoThe2nd> *SCNR*
Apr 22 14:32:28 <KotH> yeah..
Apr 22 14:32:38 <KotH> it was just a couple 10k per month, nothing serious
Apr 22 14:34:01 <LetoThe2nd> some k/month shouldn't be much of an issue, yes.
Apr 22 14:34:48 <KotH> yeah.. we had some $local_company to take the reels, unpackage the chips, programm them, put them back in to the reels, seel it and ship it to china
Apr 22 14:34:51 <rocky|quadcopter> alex20032: you use realtime kernel patches and do the controls on the linux side
Apr 22 14:35:06 <rocky|quadcopter> we're using one called Xenomai
Apr 22 14:36:02 <rocky|quadcopter> some functions are on the PRU though, like pwm and i2c. The linux side communicates using shared memory.
Apr 22 14:36:48 <corrosion> is the gang programmer accessing the CPU through the JTAG?
Apr 22 14:37:21 <LetoThe2nd> corrosion: no. google "gang programmer"
Apr 22 14:37:56 <corrosion> well the first results are for MSP430
Apr 22 14:38:23 <LetoThe2nd> corrosion: so what? the concept is always the same
Apr 22 14:38:41 <LetoThe2nd> the msp just has the memory onchip.
Apr 22 14:39:17 <LetoThe2nd> -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programmer_%28hardware%29#Types
Apr 22 14:40:17 <corrosion> right. thanks
Apr 22 14:59:13 <ausjke> looking for small touchscreen on BBB, saw this: http://elinux.org/CircuitCo:BeagleBone_LCD4 and http://elinux.org/CircuitCo:BeagleBone_LCD3
Apr 22 14:59:21 <ausjke> but can I purchase them somewhere
Apr 22 14:59:41 <ausjke> three sizes are available 3.5" 4.3" and 7"
Apr 22 15:01:11 <ausjke> alright here it is http://www.logicsupply.com/components/displays/4dcape-43t/
Apr 22 15:27:38 <BeagleGithub> [kernel] clacey09 opened pull request #95: Fix USB Babble Causes DBus Shutdown (3.12...3.12) http://git.io/NQjW1A
Apr 22 15:29:03 <BeagleGithub> [kernel] RobertCNelson pushed 2 new commits to 3.12: http://git.io/fwFZhQ
Apr 22 15:29:03 <BeagleGithub> kernel/3.12 1da2ec6 Cody Lacey: Fix USB Babble Causes DBus Shutdown
Apr 22 15:29:03 <BeagleGithub> kernel/3.12 0ae99d2 Robert Nelson: Merge pull request #95 from clacey09/3.12...
Apr 22 18:11:53 <DELTEC> hi... somebody who write in spanish...
Apr 22 18:12:07 <DELTEC> I'm from argentina
Apr 22 18:12:29 <DELTEC> I need to know who sales beaglebone in Argentina
Apr 22 18:13:51 <DELTEC> somedoby who can help me
Apr 22 18:14:07 <DELTEC> maybe anybody...jaja sorry
Apr 22 18:15:21 <DELTEC> well
Apr 22 18:15:30 <DELTEC> ok, thanks
Apr 22 18:15:44 <ogra_> this is IRC ... be more patient
Apr 22 18:16:09 <DELTEC> ah ok!!! ogra thanks... I wait
Apr 22 18:16:23 <ogra_> (if someone knows they will answer eventually, just stay around for a while)
Apr 22 18:16:43 <DELTEC> ok ogra understand
Apr 22 18:16:51 <DELTEC> thanks a lot!!
Apr 22 18:35:39 <shawnbon206> DELTEC this is IRC. sometimes people are flat out ignoring you. handle it gracefully or they will laugh at you too
Apr 22 19:03:37 <pjustice> DELTEC: parece que mouser argentino vende productos beagleboard
Apr 22 19:04:45 <pjustice> quizas digikey tambien
Apr 22 22:00:18 <jpfau> I've been trying to get audio over HDMI working on my BBB for a while now--will I need to build my own kernel, or will any of the stock kernels work? I'm on 3.14.1 on Arch Linux ARM right now, but if I need to I can install a different kernel or distro.
Apr 22 22:00:55 <jpfau> Googling it has given me a number of results that don't really explain it that well, some kernel patches (that are presumably not in stable yet), and some stuff about device tree that I don't quite know what it's for
Apr 22 22:01:52 <nyt-> Pretty sure it 'just works' with the latest debian images, but don't quote me on that
Apr 22 22:03:04 <jpfau> also, do the SGX drivers work in any current kernel, or am I just out of luck on that regard?
Apr 22 22:03:22 <jpfau> I've been following that one for a while and it looked like there might have been some momentum around 3.12 but I'm not sure
Apr 22 22:03:27 <nyt-> probably out of luck
Apr 22 22:03:39 <jpfau> alright, hopefully framebuffer will be fast enough :/
Apr 22 22:03:44 <nyt-> sgx working is mythical lol
Apr 22 22:03:49 <nyt-> what are you trying to do?
Apr 22 22:04:09 <jpfau> I'm just trying to upscale an image, but I'm also doing a lot of processing to generate the image
Apr 22 22:04:17 <nyt-> fb should be fine
Apr 22 22:04:17 <jpfau> there isn't really much room left over on the CPU for the upscaling
Apr 22 22:04:46 <jpfau> I'm trying to optimize the generation, and I've been making a lot of progress on that thankfully
Apr 22 22:05:28 <jpfau> I can try imaging an SD card with the latest Debian build though
Apr 22 22:05:37 <jpfau> to see if audio over HDMI works, at least
Apr 22 22:10:22 <shawnboon206> rar
Apr 22 22:10:25 <shawnboon206> wheres my bbb
Apr 22 22:10:55 <shawnboon206> i dont even remember who i preordered it from
Apr 22 22:11:30 <shawnboon206> sparkfun.com
Apr 22 22:19:02 <veremit> wait til its made :P
Apr 22 22:19:38 <veremit> " BBB is being sold faster than produced. Order one and wait. There is no other way. "
Apr 22 22:21:12 <ds2> or build your own!
Apr 22 22:53:36 <cardonarico> Hi there, guys, I need a quick help compiling a new kernel, I need change the OTG USB port to Host mode, I already did the HW mods so I need th kernel tip to finish this project. Anybody ?
Apr 22 23:01:36 <Finsch> hallo leute
Apr 22 23:03:24 <Finsch> I would control the gpio via webinterface and hardware button und view the stat at the web interface in "realtme"
Apr 22 23:03:36 <Finsch> help me please
Apr 22 23:04:25 <alex20032> rocky|quadcopter: hey
Apr 22 23:04:32 <Finsch> spricht hier jemand deutsch
Apr 22 23:06:50 <alex20032> hey\
Apr 22 23:07:09 <alex20032> anyone here already did a quadcopter?
Apr 22 23:08:23 <alex20032> what is the computing power i need for that sort of project? (speed, number of bit...)
Apr 22 23:12:03 <myself> alex20032: have you searched for other people who've documented their quadcopter builds and looked at what they used for processors?
Apr 22 23:22:07 <alex20032> myself: I saw some document about those, but lot of time, its just some teast and research they did, without going up to the real math crushing... like testing motor and communication
Apr 22 23:23:21 <alex20032> and since im not a math professionnal (i dont have university degree), my quad will surely not be optimized, so its better to ask than saying: but other do it with that much power, why mine lag...
Apr 22 23:31:18 <pathfinder> hi
Apr 22 23:31:40 <pathfinder> is there anyone used beagle board with LCD screen
Apr 22 23:32:19 <pathfinder> interfacing with LCD touch screen or screen
Apr 22 23:54:59 <JFK911> i've flashed the debian thing.  it went fast.
Apr 23 00:19:01 <JFK911> apparently i'm too new at systemd to figure out how to disable lightdm
Apr 23 00:19:21 <rocky|quadcopter> systemctl disable lightdm.service ?
Apr 23 00:19:37 <JFK911> tried that, didnt seem to take.
Apr 23 00:19:43 <JFK911> systemctl stops it though.
Apr 23 00:19:47 <rocky|quadcopter> huh.
Apr 23 00:19:47 <JFK911> i'll try it again
Apr 23 00:19:59 <rocky|quadcopter> maybe it's a nonstandard name?
Apr 23 00:20:18 <JFK911> i thought it simply reappeared when i rebooted it, but that may have been to try 'systemctl preset multi-user'
Apr 23 00:20:24 <JFK911> let me try some more
Apr 23 00:20:48 <rocky|quadcopter> you might take a look at the symlinks that systemd uses.  I forget where it puts them though.
Apr 23 00:21:57 <JFK911> yeah didnt find it there
Apr 23 00:22:33 <JFK911> 'disable lightdm.service' reported 'failed to issue method call, no such file or directory'
Apr 23 00:22:44 <JFK911> i think i found a reference to lightdm in /etc/systemd
Apr 23 00:23:12 <rocky|quadcopter> run systemctl to see a list of loaded services.
Apr 23 00:23:24 <rocky|quadcopter> if it's not in there, it's probably not using systemctl.
Apr 23 00:23:38 <JFK911> 1it's in there
Apr 23 00:23:46 <JFK911> systemctl can stop it
Apr 23 00:24:04 <rocky|quadcopter> :V I don't know then. Anyone else have ideas?
Apr 23 00:24:49 <JFK911> there are sysv init scripts for it
Apr 23 00:27:12 <JFK911> what i am at runlevel 5?!
Apr 23 00:27:20 <JFK911> debian is silly
Apr 23 00:27:48 <rocky|quadcopter> sometimes. *arch all the way*
Apr 23 00:32:26 <JFK911> this thing boots faster but i liked the angstrom build
Apr 23 00:33:44 <rocky|quadcopter> I like angstrom except for its package manager.  It is way too slow.  Plus, the packages available are very limited compared to debian.
Apr 23 00:35:48 <JFK911> how do i install packages on the debian thing?
Apr 23 00:36:02 <rocky|quadcopter> apt-get install <package name>
Apr 23 00:36:21 <JFK911> oke easy enough
Apr 23 00:36:59 <rocky|quadcopter> you can search using apt-cache
Apr 23 00:37:33 <rocky|quadcopter> Are the manpages availble on Debian?  That was another major compliant I had about Angstrom.
Apr 23 00:37:55 <JFK911> i got a manpage
Apr 23 00:37:57 <JFK911> ok there's lldpd
Apr 23 00:40:42 <Dan1> JFK911: in case you dont already know, you will want apt-get update also apt-get upgrade :)
Apr 23 00:41:05 <rocky|quadcopter> ^ yes.  update will update your repos, upgrade will install the latest packages.
Apr 23 00:41:34 <JFK911> Dan1: i will want to 'upgrade' an image built last week??
Apr 23 00:41:42 <rocky|quadcopter> maybe?
Apr 23 00:41:59 <JFK911> i'll do it after i clean out packages i'm not interested in
Apr 23 00:42:32 <JFK911> hm dhcp client didnt pick up the hostname or the timeserver
Apr 23 00:43:21 <Dan1> JFK911: maybe not on a new image, but it will only download stuff that isnt already the newest so its not like its going to do anything bad
Apr 23 00:43:42 <JFK911> Dan1: im kind of new to having a flash filesystem so im afraid to write to it ;)
Apr 23 00:43:53 <Dan1> but hey its your thing, its up to you. im just tryin to help
Apr 23 00:44:05 <Dan1> dont be
Apr 23 00:44:44 <Dan1> the one in my raspberry pi's been going for years constantly reading/writing to it
Apr 23 00:44:50 <JFK911> im going to try and remove lightdm from rc5.d
Apr 23 00:45:14 <nyt-> rc5.d is not called on boot
Apr 23 00:45:42 <nyt-> oh nm
Apr 23 00:45:43 <nyt-> weird
Apr 23 00:45:50 <nyt-> it does boot into runlevel 5 haha
Apr 23 00:46:10 <nyt-> whats odd is i checked inittab
Apr 23 00:46:12 <nyt-> and its id:2
Apr 23 00:46:13 <nyt-> but
Apr 23 00:46:14 <JFK911> i was expecting to be in 2 for multiuser
Apr 23 00:46:15 <nyt-> system is running at 5
Apr 23 00:47:51 <nyt-> anyway lightdm is in rc2.d on my bb
Apr 23 00:50:03 <JFK911> 2, 3, 4, 5
Apr 23 00:50:12 <JFK911> i'd like to leave it in 5, and have default runlevel be 2
Apr 23 00:50:49 <JFK911> i prepended a tilde to the names of rc?.d/S04lightdm
Apr 23 00:55:38 <dsmith-work> Yeah, the first thing I did with my bbb was purging all the X11 stuff.
Apr 23 00:56:34 <dsmith-work> Seems quite a put peppier than an rpi.
Apr 23 00:56:42 <dsmith-work> s/put/bit/
Apr 23 00:58:19 <JFK911> root@beaglebone:~# free -m total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Apr 23 00:58:22 <JFK911> Mem:           497         90        406          0          9         34
Apr 23 00:58:24 <JFK911> thats super
Apr 23 00:59:23 <prpplague> dsmith-work: yea, but the bbb just doesn't have that awesome 2x13 header like the rpi
Apr 23 01:00:44 <JFK911> more pins = better
Apr 23 01:01:05 <prpplague> it's not the number of pins you have, it's how you use them
Apr 23 01:11:22 * Luke-Jr wonders if he's insane to try to build a HVAC control with a BBB if he has pretty much no EE experience
Apr 23 01:12:20 <prpplague> Luke-Jr: with no experience, yes, insane
Apr 23 01:13:31 <Luke-Jr> :/
Apr 23 01:14:15 <dsmith-work> Luke-Jr: Don't be discouraged.  You can the the same stuff they did.
Apr 23 01:14:21 <Luke-Jr> I don't suppose soldering simple stuff counts for anything? And knowing how i2c and SPI work in theory
Apr 23 01:14:28 <dsmith-work> s/can /can learn /
Apr 23 01:14:53 <Luke-Jr> well, I'm hoping I can just get a i2c relay module, and wire it to the BBB i2c pinouts..
Apr 23 01:15:11 <Finsch> I would control the gpio via webinterface and hardware button und view the stat at the web interface in "realtme"
Apr 23 01:15:31 <Finsch> if the idea to chosse json the best ?
Apr 23 01:16:33 <Ettics> anyone here have experience setting up WiFi using Arch? I'm using netctl and keep getting failed to bring up error.
Apr 23 01:33:05 <johnwalkr> BBB also doesn’t have that great i2c implementation
Apr 23 01:33:42 <johnwalkr> forces you to run it at like 100Hz in some sitiations, really makes your datalogging more space efficiant
Apr 23 01:33:52 <johnwalkr> rpi is great for that too
Apr 23 01:34:14 <prpplague> hehe
Apr 23 01:34:47 <johnwalkr> that was the most stressful week of my life, broke a BBB and couldn’t get a replacement in time
Apr 23 01:34:55 <JFK911> in time for waht
Apr 23 01:35:02 <johnwalkr> and it was the week an undergrad working under me had his thesis due
Apr 23 01:35:08 <JFK911> oi
Apr 23 01:35:26 <johnwalkr> i stayed up 2 nights in a row making an rpi fit only to find out it wouldn’t datalog over i2c
Apr 23 01:35:50 <johnwalkr> due to a documented hardware bug that was never fixed in a revision (on the SOC, not anything rpi specific)
Apr 23 01:35:57 <JFK911> haaaa
Apr 23 01:36:42 <johnwalkr> i wish i had a picture of the rpi, i had to remove all of the connectors and solder everything including the sd card to it via wires
Apr 23 01:37:39 <johnwalkr> finally a used BBB came up on amazon and i bought it for about $100
Apr 23 01:38:28 <JFK911> hohoho
Apr 23 01:38:48 <JFK911> feel like i should buy some and hold them in stock
Apr 23 01:43:33 <johnwalkr> yeah i bought a few after that
Apr 23 02:00:24 <JFK911> ok now theres a half gbyte free on the eMMC and it boots in seconds
Apr 23 02:00:27 <JFK911> maybe debian isnt so bad, we'll see
Apr 23 02:31:46 <nyt-> deb is good
Apr 23 02:37:17 <johnwalkr> yeah most popular in here it seems
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