**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Apr 25 02:59:58 2014 Apr 25 03:02:44 Well, yes :) However the package does not exist in the repository. I've just located them from a form post actually: http://rcn-ee.net/deb/wheezy-armhf/v3.8.13-bone47/linux-headers-3.8.13-bone47_1.0wheezy_armhf.deb Apr 25 03:48:49 hmm, would be nice if that was a valid apt repository Apr 25 04:45:13 hi ..can anyone please tell on whether i need to use emmc flasher image only for booting up Beaglebone black. Apr 25 04:50:20 beagle13: no, what are you trying to do? Apr 25 04:55:46 tbr: I wanted to try the new ubuntu 14.04 armhf on beaglebone black Apr 25 05:00:32 beagle13: the "emmc flasher" versions are to write the os to your internal BBB memory, or you use just a normal beaglebone (non block) image if you want to write it to your uSD card and have it run from there. hope that made sense? Apr 25 05:06:08 Dan1: sure.... and from where can i get the latest .img file for ubuntu 14.04 armhf... I tried the earlier locations from where i got the 12.04 version..but currently those locations are unavailable.. Apr 25 05:06:35 that im not sure sorry Apr 25 05:07:20 Dan1: thank you.. Apr 25 05:54:24 Hey Guys Apr 25 07:00:16 I just tried booting one of the images I got from this page http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardDebian#Debian_Testing_.28jessie.29 and it boots, but my keyboard doesn't seem to work, and my desktop won't recognize the USB TTY either Apr 25 07:01:29 BeagleBone Black, btw Apr 25 07:01:59 The command I used to set up the SD card was thus: sudo ./setup_sdcard.sh --mmc /dev/sdb --dtb beaglebone Apr 25 07:03:02 unfortunately I don't have another USB keyboard to test it with, but I tried plugging it directly into the host port as well as plugging it into a hub and the hub into the host port Apr 25 07:15:56 I don't see it in lsusb either, but I'm not entirely sure what I'm looking for Apr 25 07:27:03 I'm not sure but hotplug is not allowed in BBB...so i recommend you to reboot and try. Make sure keyboard is connected. Apr 25 07:27:36 jpfau: ^ Apr 25 07:27:52 dastaan: I did try rebooting Apr 25 07:28:05 didn't work ? Apr 25 07:28:34 it might have something to do with the fact that it's a wireless keyboard, but I'm not sure Apr 25 07:28:46 I unfortunately don't have another USB keyboard to use :( Apr 25 07:29:33 may be....does it power up fine ? Apr 25 07:29:37 regardless, it's supposed to show up on the computer that the OTG port is plugged into as a USB TTY gadget thing, and it's not doing that either Apr 25 07:29:44 can you see any leds on it ? Apr 25 07:29:46 yeah, it gives me the login prompt Apr 25 07:29:50 i mean keyboard Apr 25 07:30:00 oh, the keyboard doesn't have LEDs Apr 25 07:30:08 try capslock and numlock if it toggles Apr 25 07:30:11 (which gets really confusing) Apr 25 07:30:29 oh...! Apr 25 07:30:42 yeah :( Apr 25 07:34:15 dastaan: my roommate had a USB keyboard, as it turns out, so I plugged that one in and rebooted. No dice. LEDs don't do anything. Apr 25 07:35:18 jpfau: have you connected a serial cable and seen what the console says? Apr 25 07:35:29 KotH: I unfortunately don't have such a cable Apr 25 07:35:33 that's a good option Apr 25 07:35:35 I have a friend who has one Apr 25 07:35:35 jpfau: then buy one Apr 25 07:35:44 jpfau: it's more or less a required item Apr 25 07:35:59 jpfau: you cannot unlock the acheivment "BBB booting" without it ;) Apr 25 07:35:59 I've managed to get away without having one, but it's been...difficult Apr 25 07:36:32 they are 5CHF on ebay, some free shipping too Apr 25 07:36:34 I've had it running on Arch without (many) problems for months :) Apr 25 07:37:35 but yeah I probably should get one regardless Apr 25 07:37:42 I'll see if I can't borrow my friend's one until then Apr 25 07:53:21 I'm going to try the Angstrom image to see if there's any difference Apr 25 08:02:57 Hi guys, can anyone help me with a problem with my element14 BBB? I've connected it to my WIn7 PC, but the device is not recognized. The LEDs blink as stated ni the documentation though Apr 25 08:05:49 drad89: you installed the drivers? Apr 25 08:07:44 yes, I have installed them Apr 25 08:08:04 But nothing happens. It's strange that when I connect the Board, Windows doesn't do anything Apr 25 08:08:26 doesn't even make that sound that it makes when you connect an USB device Apr 25 08:09:49 On the debian image, it takes a little long for the device to be identified Apr 25 08:10:30 does this link work: http://192.168.7.2/ Apr 25 08:10:55 nead. dead. Can't access the server Apr 25 08:10:57 neah* Apr 25 08:11:25 oh wait, the element14 one is different maybe Apr 25 08:11:33 nah, shouldn't Apr 25 08:11:59 drad89: check if you have additional network or serial interfaces shown Apr 25 08:12:06 ok Apr 25 08:12:26 moreover, check if you have an extra drive in my computer Apr 25 08:12:31 ok, tbr there is a “getting started with beaglebone black” guide at element14 which actually has instructions for beaglebone Apr 25 08:12:40 found that and got confused Apr 25 08:13:10 nothing in my DeviceManager screen Apr 25 08:13:33 yeah, I've tried to follow that particular tutorial Apr 25 08:13:47 but if the board's not recognized... don't know what to do Apr 25 08:14:02 and it's brand new. Could it have a defect or something? Apr 25 08:14:08 drad89: make sure you don't have any other interface open. Apr 25 08:14:17 are you using external power or usb power? Apr 25 08:14:23 USB power Apr 25 08:15:26 the cable's plugged in all right? Apr 25 08:15:28 drad89: stop internet for a while and try to access it Apr 25 08:15:54 cable plugged, checked that Apr 25 08:15:57 reboot your BBB with the reset button Apr 25 08:16:26 rebooted. doesn't seem to help Apr 25 08:16:51 drad89: can you paste your ipconfig here ? Apr 25 08:17:02 open cmd, run ipconfig and paste Apr 25 08:17:25 there's no point, the device isn't recognised for him in the first plac Apr 25 08:17:53 Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : artsoft.ro Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::95f9:5869:c0f4:de20%11 IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.77 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 Tunnel adapter Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . Apr 25 08:17:55 oh, my bad then. I thought device recognised but can't access it Apr 25 08:17:58 not sure if it helps :) Apr 25 08:18:08 sorry Apr 25 08:18:54 I've done this on 2 different win7 machines Apr 25 08:19:03 and used 2 different cables Apr 25 08:19:14 but I got the same result Apr 25 08:52:02 hm, Angstrom worked fine, and this other debian image works fine too, although I think my SD card might be a bit broken. Apr 25 08:53:34 yes, but without a serial console you cannot exactly be sure why Apr 25 08:53:37 you are flying blind Apr 25 08:53:53 all you can say is "it does not work" Apr 25 08:55:02 fair enough :) Apr 25 08:56:35 I mean, you're absolutely right, and I should investigate it further. I don't have the hardware required right now, but I should stop putting that off and just buy it. Apr 25 08:56:57 Hi All, Can you please help in setting build enviromnet for BBB. some one gave me BBB with ubuntu flashed in eMMC. Linux ubuntu-armhf 3.8.13-bone30. Now I want to compile hellodriver.c to generate hellodriver.ko Apr 25 08:57:21 Hi there. Wondering if the maintainer of the Debian 3.8.13-bone47 image could enable the PRU in the DTB. Right now it's disabled. Apr 25 08:57:23 I have done ssh to board. Apr 25 08:57:56 so do I need to compile my code in board shell or my local machine Apr 25 08:59:23 Lets say I want to compile on my local ubuntu machine. Apr 25 08:59:39 what I need to download ? Apr 25 09:00:11 kernel header and arm toolchain. Apr 25 09:00:34 any pointer would be helpful about how to setup build env on local machine Apr 25 09:00:39 MattiasF: just load a dto and enable it yourself? Apr 25 09:01:12 MattiasF: or edit the system DT. it's not difficult. you can just copy&paste the required lines Apr 25 09:01:57 sachin: compiling on the BBB itself is not recommended, even it it's possible Apr 25 09:02:15 sachin: you want to build your own cross compilation environment and put your modifications there Apr 25 09:02:25 sachin: it's more work in the beginning, but it will pay of very quickly Apr 25 09:03:24 sachin: for quick and easy start use a system like buildroot. for more involved stuff you can use angström. and if you feel like going on an advanture try debian or ubuntu crosscompilation Apr 25 09:07:24 KotH: I recreated the dts, patched the pru to Okay, and recompiled to dtb but I'm wondering why I have to do that? Why not enable it in the first place? Apr 25 09:07:55 It's working but the PRU is awesome. Why have it off by default? Apr 25 09:08:14 Ok thanks for valuable input. Ok I will not compile on board termial as you said even compilation takes time. ok I am beginner but still I want to go ahead with Ubuntu. Apr 25 09:08:22 MattiasF: because it's a general image. not everyone uses the pru and not everyone wants those pins bound to the pru but wants to use it for something else Apr 25 09:08:45 any pointer how to set toolchain and set compiler for kernel driver. Apr 25 09:08:49 MattiasF: it may also conflict with some capes which people expect to work out of the box when plugging in Apr 25 09:09:06 Ah... didn't know the PRU would hog the pins. Thanks you. Apr 25 09:09:40 sachin: if you are a beginner, i really recommend using buildroot Apr 25 09:09:52 sachin: it is a very simple system that almost everything for you Apr 25 09:10:21 sachin: getting a bootable image is a matter of half a day, including reading all documentation of buildroot Apr 25 09:10:34 sachin: and after that it's really easy to make modifications Apr 25 09:11:04 Thanks a ton. I will go through buildroot. I am not aware of it. But then I not need to remove my existing OS from board. Apr 25 09:11:25 do I need to remove and install new OS on BBB. Apr 25 09:11:31 sachin: also: you cannot just compile a kernel module. you need the same compiler version and the same headers as has been used for your kernel. otherwise things will break in mysterious ways Apr 25 09:11:48 sachin: you can boot from an sd card w/o touching what is on the emmc Apr 25 09:11:55 KotH: Since you're online and helping out (thanks again) What environment are you using? I just got cross compilation, remote deployment, and remote debugging going over ssh from Eclipse on Ubuntu. Any tips for the next step? Doing user level stuff and some PRU development. Apr 25 09:12:16 MattiasF: in 99% of all cases buildroot. unless it's getting big Apr 25 09:12:29 s/big/complex/ Apr 25 09:12:52 I agree I can boot from sd card. But my main motivation of this changes is I have to do some modification in MMC driver Apr 25 09:13:06 buildroot seemed like it addressed compiling everything. Still good for userland development? Apr 25 09:13:12 the bottom line is more like: whatever you use, make sure its reproductible and does not include arcane steps that are only documented inside your head. Apr 25 09:13:39 sachin: the driver does not care from where you boot the system Apr 25 09:13:51 MattiasF: you do want to compile everything together Apr 25 09:13:59 MattiasF: userland depends on correct library versions too Apr 25 09:14:09 not really. Happy just running an app on a tested distro like Debian Apr 25 09:14:24 statically linked Apr 25 09:14:37 MattiasF: compiling something for a different libc (even just a differen libc version) is a receipt for desaster Apr 25 09:14:40 Ok understood. So if my OS is booted from sd card. and still I can call sd card commands Apr 25 09:14:45 so if you're running debian/ubuntu on the target and the linaro provided cross toolchains do what you desire, everything is fine. just make sure your makefiles (or whatever you use) is really setup correctly, and your build process needs exactly one kick off command. Apr 25 09:14:52 Hi ..my BBB is getting detected as a ttyACM0 device.. can someone help me to access BBB as a serial device Apr 25 09:15:06 So big tip is get buildroot going. Ok thanks Apr 25 09:15:37 beagle13: ttyACM0 is a serial device. Apr 25 09:16:20 sachin: maybe having a look at the "embedded linux primer" by hallinan (2nd edition) is a good idea Apr 25 09:16:25 but when i give screen /dev/ttyACM0 115200, im not able to access.. Apr 25 09:17:08 beagle13: i'm pretty sure thats not a beagle problem, but of your user rights or such. Apr 25 09:17:32 LetoThe2nd: i tried with sudo only Apr 25 09:17:59 beagle13: i see. Apr 25 09:18:13 ok sure. i will go through it. but lets say if i download gcc-linaro-arm-linux-gnueabihf-4.8-2014.03_linux.tar Apr 25 09:18:46 beagle13: or, are you expecting boot output there? that won't be the case, as it goes through the serial port, not the usb. Apr 25 09:19:24 so this will gi ve arm toolchain , with help of kernel header of board version, will it work Apr 25 09:19:25 I am expecting the usual login prommpt asking for user name, after that password Apr 25 09:22:31 LetoThe2nd: Apr 25 09:23:34 beagle13: i don't know from the top of my head, and have no BBB near me ATM, sorry. Apr 25 09:24:34 LetoThe2nd: thank you Apr 25 09:24:55 @KotH : buildroot looks very convincing. Thank you. Apr 25 10:02:53 Hi, What is the possible reason that beaglebone black does not boot from sdcard? Apr 25 10:03:15 It just stopped. Apr 25 10:05:38 connect a serial cable to it to see what u-boot says Apr 25 10:07:31 uart0? Apr 25 10:09:00 yep Apr 25 10:09:44 dHOuZzZ: http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBone_Black_Serial Apr 25 10:20:04 thank You! Apr 25 11:53:03 what version of the dtc compiler do i need to use to compile a dts I am using 1.4.0 in the gentoo repos Apr 25 13:31:37 it it possible to run beaglebone black from sdcard just, but not flash? When i ran ubuntu fro msdcard before it was ok, but not it tries to flash nand and fails for some reason. Apr 25 13:46:27 any suggestions for using a two cell lipo with the beaglebone black and usb peripherals? Not sure if its better to get a 3 cell stepped down to 5volts Apr 25 13:47:51 the BBB has a chip on it that can charge and manage a lipo cell Apr 25 13:48:24 but the connector is an interesting hurdel Apr 25 13:58:17 I saw the element14 article where they soldered a connector and a couple of resistors as well. Just not sure as I have not seen any others mention using a lipo in that fashion Apr 25 14:04:30 so the real issue i am having is that i am attempting to compile an overlay and am getting a syntax error which isnt very descriptive. it says it there was a fatal error: unable to parse input tree Apr 25 14:04:53 any body can help with this? or point me in the wrong direction Apr 25 14:11:51 looks like it was the compiler i was using. needed to use dtc-overlay in archlinux versus dtc Apr 25 14:31:51 any channel operators here? Apr 25 14:32:11 why would you need one? Apr 25 14:32:35 why else would i need one? Apr 25 14:32:57 to operate on the channel Apr 25 14:33:23 denix av500 Apr 25 15:26:40 So is there a way to create a "backup" of the eMMC? Like to an SD card? Apr 25 15:35:56 I am a noob... Apr 25 15:36:15 I was wondering why this is happening? I tried to unexport a overlay and it caused my ssh session to drop. is there any reason for this? it has happened everytime i try to unexport the dts file. doesnt when doing single pins Apr 25 15:38:55 make sure kernel is not crashed, can you connec again? Apr 25 15:39:56 dHOuZzZ, after restarting. I'm looking at the dmesg output from loading the dto and it seemed like it tried 3 times before picking a slot: http://pastebin.com/L2vkuPnw Apr 25 16:03:20 sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda/ Apr 25 16:05:42 dHOuZzZ: s,sda/,sda, Apr 25 16:12:24 cat * | nc google.com -u 80 Apr 25 16:13:13 dHOuZzZ: are you trying to tell us anything specific? Apr 25 17:03:42 I also lose my terminal when unexporting an overlay Apr 25 17:04:07 the system tends to be unstable after i try to do that, so i generally just reboot when i have to unexport anything Apr 25 17:29:03 are the 3d drivers for beaglebone black working yet? Apr 25 17:31:27 I remember people mentioning that the glue code got ported to some recent kernel Apr 25 18:21:08 hi Apr 25 18:22:12 can anyone help me determine what port does USB use in BeGLEBOARD BLACK IN ANDROID Apr 25 19:39:13 anyone going to Embededd Linux Conf in San Jose next week? Apr 25 19:39:42 I'm excited - it's my first one Apr 25 19:42:32 pdp7: Ooo. Sounds fun. Apr 25 19:42:39 (not I) Apr 25 19:49:33 several device tree talks i'm looking forward to... catching up on last year, nice videos on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbzoR-pLrL6reuY8eZ9S1PRofvdp9O16w Apr 25 19:51:14 pdp7: how's that next week already?! Apr 25 19:51:19 snuck up on me Apr 25 20:54:16 hi Apr 25 20:54:24 I have a question, can anyone help me please Apr 25 20:54:41 someone? Apr 25 20:57:10 no ... ahahahahahaa Apr 25 20:57:12 :) Apr 25 21:14:22 not until you ask your actual question Apr 25 21:53:29 is it possible to get video acceleration on the BeagleBone Black on 3.12? It seems to be a supported kernel, but I get the impression that there's no real X integration? (Which is fine by me, it'd be better if I can get my project up without X running--I just need some basic texturing operations) Apr 25 21:53:56 I'm compiling rcn's 3.12 kernel now but I'm not sure if this will work, or how to properly install the packages it generates Apr 25 21:54:03 (especially the firmware package) Apr 25 22:27:42 Hi ;) Apr 25 22:28:39 i have ask to you Apr 25 22:28:53 i buy beaglebone black and i want to configure can bus Apr 25 22:28:59 someone do it and can help me Apr 25 23:10:33 need some help. I have my BBB up and running with a external display on the display it has on the screen this is just a temporary deskto session. Flashing the system to the eMMc. Any local changes will not be saved. Apr 25 23:10:47 I want to run debian off the SD card not on the EMMC Apr 25 23:10:49 is that possiable. Apr 25 23:15:04 Guest86176: you just want to run debian on SD card? (I recommend as this as 2GB eMMC is too small) Apr 25 23:15:31 Guest86176: http://debian.beagleboard.org/images/bone-debian-7.4-2014-04-23-2gb.img.xz Apr 25 23:15:33 correct want to use the SD card only Apr 25 23:15:38 cool Apr 25 23:15:44 flash that image onto the card Apr 25 23:16:20 i have the img on my sd card it boots up fine. on the display screen getting this is a temporary ...... Apr 25 23:16:36 Guest86176: easy way to expand the filesystem once BBB has booted: http://elinux.org/index.php?title=Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#Expanding_File_System_Partition_On_A_microSD Apr 25 23:17:03 yes I have a 16 gb sd card with debian installed and the sd card expanded. Apr 25 23:17:11 you get a warning in text that "this is a temporary session" ? Apr 25 23:17:26 correct on my display attached to the bbb Apr 25 23:17:50 so Ive been going through and troubleshooting a overlay i created. I however am running into an issue where i see multiple lines referencing of_get_named_gpio_flags exited with x status. where can I find the meaning of these statuses? And when referencing pins how do i know if i should be using the address or the offset? Apr 25 23:17:52 Guest86176: hmm, I can't say I've seen one before but I am usually running BBB headless Apr 25 23:18:38 could it be a default screen on there. Apr 25 23:18:46 Guest86176: unless someone else pipes up, you might get a quicker answer if you post to the list with a screenshot https://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard Apr 25 23:19:00 Guest86176: I will try latest Debian with monitor this weekend Apr 25 23:19:32 getting the video display to work was a real PITA Apr 25 23:19:32 Robert C Nelson produces the Debian image and is usually quick to answer on the beagleboard list Apr 25 23:19:37 ah Apr 25 23:19:40 is it a cape? Apr 25 23:20:15 deluxe247: hmm... i'm not much help with device tree... hopefully someone else in the channel might know Apr 25 23:21:43 deluxe247: if you've not already seen, this is a great article from Pantelis Antoniou http://elinux.org/BeagleBone_and_the_3.8_Kernel Apr 25 23:25:19 pdp7, yeah ive read/skimmed through most of the articles i kind find on the device tree and beaglebone black. just wish there was more explanation. I wrote my dts file yesterday and compiled today only to see certain things that needed to be fixed by dmesg and noticed the of_get_named_gpio_flags exited with status x Apr 25 23:26:00 this device tree stuff has held me back from even playing around with pins and hardware etc with the beaglebone black because I wanted to use the device tree and do things properly Apr 25 23:31:00 deluxe247: gotcha, that's admirable. Apr 25 23:31:27 deluxe247: that reminds me, i saw a good video from derek malloy on DT and GPIO, seen that one? Apr 25 23:32:33 yeah definitely have, thats what kinda gave me the encouragement to start messing around with it. I havent even gotten to the point of using the pru which i will need to use with a ping sensor. so i have some fun learning times ahead of me Apr 25 23:33:12 nice, i'd like to get to both of those at some point too Apr 25 23:33:21 (DT and PRU) Apr 25 23:59:04 using ubuntu 13.10 on a sd and system will not boot. i have reflashed the card a couple of times. any suggestion? Apr 26 00:04:33 what the Apr 26 00:04:47 end if may beginning of june for my bbb? Apr 26 00:04:57 s/if/of Apr 26 00:06:36 anyone know whats going on with the production? new setbacks? Apr 26 00:10:55 hi. does anyone know how to enable spi on beagleboardxm with RobertCNelson's linux-stable 3.9.x kernel? Apr 26 00:56:32 shawnbon206 .. I *think* they're moving production .. but I'm not sure Apr 26 00:57:32 shawnbon206 .. but you can be sure it'll be the 'wait and see' game ;) Apr 26 00:59:25 well they said it should be shipping now when i preordered Apr 26 00:59:34 now its a month from now Apr 26 01:05:31 shawnbon206 .. that woul dbe about right lol **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Apr 26 02:59:58 2014