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Apr 29 03:09:48 <monoxide_13> dannM, if you're familier with Ubuntu, there's a distro for that too that's pretty stable
Apr 29 03:11:15 <dannyM> monoxide_13 -> I am MUCH more familiar with Ubuntu than Debian.  I've never even used Debian so don't know if there are big differences.  If there is an Ubuntu disti available, I should use that instead
Apr 29 03:11:25 <dannyM> Let me ask Google...
Apr 29 03:11:52 <nyt-> ubuntu is based off deb
Apr 29 03:11:54 <nyt-> you'll be familiar
Apr 29 03:13:59 <veremit> wel .. depends whther you're GUI-centric or you know how to use the command-line ;)
Apr 29 03:14:16 <dannyM> Well, debian is downloaded and on the microSD card, so it's going into the BBB in a moment to reflash.
Apr 29 03:14:20 <monoxide_13> yup it is. I use ubuntu because i'm familer with it.
Apr 29 03:14:25 <veremit> I always say "ubuntu is the Windows of the linux'es"
Apr 29 03:14:32 <nyt-> well, that's just the gui
Apr 29 03:14:35 <nyt-> theres ubuntu server as well
Apr 29 03:14:39 <veremit> ofc.
Apr 29 03:14:39 <nyt-> either way
Apr 29 03:14:50 <nyt-> debian/ubuntu
Apr 29 03:14:51 <nyt-> either are win
Apr 29 03:14:52 <nyt-> angstrom .. no
Apr 29 03:14:55 <nyt-> just say no
Apr 29 03:14:57 <veremit> lol
Apr 29 03:15:05 <veremit> angstrom is for the serious nerd .. lol
Apr 29 03:15:22 <dannyM> I'm agnostic on command line vs. GUI.  But I'm ssh'ing into it right now.  :-)
Apr 29 03:15:23 <monoxide_13> Robert C Nelson has some great youtube videos that'll help get you started with either distro
Apr 29 03:15:33 <veremit> h eheas? awesome
Apr 29 03:15:46 <dannyM> So if ubuntu and debian are related, I'll probably be fine with debian.
Apr 29 03:15:47 <veremit> he's done a lot for the ARM community
Apr 29 03:16:24 <monoxide_13> Ya for sure
Apr 29 03:24:35 <anujdeshpande> I was looking to write a device tree overlay for a cape.
Apr 29 03:25:35 <anujdeshpande> I wanted to understand how one decides what to write in fragment@0/1/2
Apr 29 03:28:22 <anujdeshpande> Also, how advisable is it that I write my own device tree instead of plugins ? I understand that something like https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel/blob/3.8/patches/capes/0027-cape-add-cape-bone-ibb-00A0.dts.patch is a plugin to the existing dt that has been loaded.
Apr 29 03:30:35 <monoxide_13> I would recomend writing a new tree. Patching can be difficult especially when you don't know what they're current tree looks like. And they may have custom things loaded. You can resonably assume if they have other devices they've put in they'll have the knowledge to merge the two
Apr 29 03:30:55 <monoxide_13> their*
Apr 29 03:33:44 <anujdeshpande> monoxide_13: but something like that won’t get merged in the official docs. which would mean that everytime someone using my cape wants to update, they’ll have to update the image, make changes to it and then use it as before. right ?
Apr 29 03:36:21 <monoxide_13> correct
Apr 29 03:36:57 <monoxide_13> well they would only need to update the tree, not the whole image
Apr 29 03:39:19 <anujdeshpande> monoxide_13: understood.
Apr 29 03:39:20 <anujdeshpande> thanks :)
Apr 29 04:38:59 <RahulAN> Hii all
Apr 29 04:39:23 <RahulAN> any one here done opencv installed in BBB
Apr 29 04:39:45 <RahulAN> i tried with opkg but getting error kernel-module-virtio-console.list not found
Apr 29 04:56:00 <RahulAN> And also it is not supporting camera .. no video0 in /dev
Apr 29 05:00:53 <tbr> RahulAN: that will depend on many factos
Apr 29 05:00:57 <tbr> factors
Apr 29 05:01:15 <RahulAN> like..??
Apr 29 05:01:43 <RahulAN> on Pi its working fine and also on my linux machine also]
Apr 29 05:01:49 <tbr> if the kernel module was built or installed, what type of camera that is, etc. also which distribution you run
Apr 29 05:02:07 <RahulAN> I flashed Angstrom over it
Apr 29 05:02:37 <RahulAN> also as i am trying to install opencv it is saying  kernel-module-virtio-console.list not found
Apr 29 05:02:51 <tbr> I suspect you'll be happier if you go with debian, unless you really are into the pain of the angstrom embedded linux learning curve
Apr 29 05:03:12 <RahulAN> Yes i too think same..
Apr 29 05:03:47 <RahulAN> My Hdmi also don't work fine.. its says no signal.. at any time
Apr 29 05:04:01 <RahulAN> which or would be fine for it?
Apr 29 05:08:58 <RahulAN> i  have raspbian image with me can it work over BBB
Apr 29 05:11:10 <tbr> no
Apr 29 05:11:20 <tbr> install the BBB debian image and be done with it
Apr 29 05:11:24 <tbr> topic closed
Apr 29 05:16:30 <monoxide_13> Oh baby, Streaming audio over netcat. GREASY
Apr 29 05:38:20 <beagle13> Hi... how can I make BBB work with either Wlan alone enabled or ethernet enabled. Right now if i remove the ethernet my WiFi is also going down.
Apr 29 05:43:28 <monoxide_13> beagle13, What's your OS and kernel version?
Apr 29 05:44:22 <beagle13> monoxide_13: os is ubuntu 14.04 and kernel  is 3.8.13 bone 47
Apr 29 05:46:05 <monoxide_13> How are you accessing your BB?
Apr 29 05:47:24 <monoxide_13> What mode is your wireless in? ieAdhoc, master, station...
Apr 29 05:47:29 <beagle13> monoxide_13: i used ssh via ethernet
Apr 29 05:48:35 <beagle13> monoxide_13: it says mode as "managed"
Apr 29 05:48:53 <monoxide_13> Is it connected to a wireless network?
Apr 29 05:49:29 <monoxide_13> I don't know how much you know about this stuff, but if you're ssh'ed via ethernet and you unplug the ethernet it should go down
Apr 29 05:49:42 <beagle13> monoxide_13: yeah it is connected to wireless
Apr 29 05:50:48 <monoxide_13> can you ssh into over the wireless network? What's your network card?
Apr 29 05:51:47 <beagle13> monoxide_13:  my BBB is connected to both ethernet and WiFi. So it has got 2 IPs.. So i could do ssh to both the IPs.  So when I remove the ethernet alone, my WiFi terminal is also hanging..
Apr 29 05:53:31 <monoxide_13> Weird. Maybe it's your router. I know on mine if I disconnect the wired network but I still have the BB connected over wifi. I can actually ssh into it through the wired network IP, even when it's not connected
Apr 29 05:53:51 <monoxide_13> How i have no fuckin clue.
Apr 29 05:54:22 <monoxide_13> But if I delete the dhcp registration in the router, then it won't work anymore.
Apr 29 05:55:20 <beagle13> monoxide_13:  okie..but i doubt on something like primary network.
Apr 29 05:56:30 <beagle13> monoxide_13: Can we set either eth or wlan as a primary network.. so that the secondary is available only if the primary is up
Apr 29 05:59:22 <monoxide_13> You could try it.
Apr 29 05:59:40 <monoxide_13> I would think the problem would be related to either tcp/ip connection, or the dns
Apr 29 06:00:51 <monoxide_13> i'm checking google. i had a problem like this before, I Just can't remember how I fixed it
Apr 29 06:02:18 <monoxide_13> Can you pastebin your ifconfig?
Apr 29 06:02:26 <monoxide_13> and iwconfig
Apr 29 06:03:44 <mona> hello,i want to install apache on beaglebone ,i am tring to use opkg install apache  but it doesnt work. Can anyone help me in this
Apr 29 06:04:03 <monoxide_13> try apache2
Apr 29 06:04:53 <mona> it says unknown package apache2
Apr 29 06:05:00 <mona> same as apache
Apr 29 06:05:09 <monoxide_13> beagle13, I wonder if it's the hotplug deamon
Apr 29 06:05:15 <tbr> try opkg list and grep for apache
Apr 29 06:05:44 <beagle13> monoxide_13: iwconfig : http://pastebin.com/QmekXYh1
Apr 29 06:06:10 <monoxide_13> beagle13, try to force the connection. sudo ifplugd eth0 --kill; sudo ifplugd eth --check-running
Apr 29 06:06:44 <mona> perl-module-cgi-apache - 5.14.2-r13.2 - perl version 5.14.2-r13  perl module cgi-apache php-fpm-apache2 - 5.3.19-r4.0.2 - php version 5.3.19-r4.0
Apr 29 06:07:11 <mona> i got this after grep
Apr 29 06:07:14 <beagle13> monoxide_13: ifconfig : http://pastebin.com/p6UuaQdH
Apr 29 06:08:08 <mona> which package should i install?
Apr 29 06:09:00 <monoxide_13> beagle13, here's the problem UP BROADCAST MULTICAST in ifconfig
Apr 29 06:09:06 <monoxide_13> it should say RUNNING
Apr 29 06:09:27 <monoxide_13> iwconfig confirms this saying unassociated
Apr 29 06:09:58 <monoxide_13> So your wireless card isn't connected to the wireless network
Apr 29 06:11:13 <beagle13> but i could do ssh to the IP of Wlan
Apr 29 06:11:16 <mona> how can i install LAMP ?
Apr 29 06:13:23 <monoxide_13> did you set the ip of the wireless with ifconfig?
Apr 29 06:15:12 <beagle13> monoxide_13:  what i did to make wlan up is "ifconfig wlan0 up" and then "ifup wlan0"
Apr 29 06:16:11 <monoxide_13> ok. you need to use sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "MyNetwork"
Apr 29 06:16:56 <monoxide_13> the use dhclient wlan0
Apr 29 06:17:13 <monoxide_13> then*. This will request an IP from your router
Apr 29 06:18:57 <beagle13> monoxide_13: ok .
Apr 29 06:20:10 <monoxide_13> note that when you reboot it, it will loose connection. You'd have to set up persistance in the /etc/network/interfaces file
Apr 29 06:47:04 <RahulAN> i installed debian image
Apr 29 06:47:29 <RahulAN> i am trying to executing startx there it is saying command not found
Apr 29 09:22:21 <dHOuZzZ> idiot is now known idiot_XXX
Apr 29 09:22:31 <dHOuZzZ> idiot is now known as idiot_XXX
Apr 29 10:17:48 <leighbb> Hello, has anyone had success with USB on the Beaglebone Black on mainline linux 3.15rc ?
Apr 29 10:18:13 <leighbb> I am getting these errors: usb 2-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71
Apr 29 10:18:24 <leighbb> http://pastebin.com/Qnq4gdH9 for full dmesg
Apr 29 10:20:22 <RahulAN> tbr, are you there?
Apr 29 10:39:25 <monoxide_13> leighbb, is this a standard image or custom kernel?
Apr 29 10:44:34 <monoxide_13> leighbb, can't parse gpios property of node '/ocp/usb@47400000/usb-phy@47401b00[0]'
Apr 29 10:46:04 <k-man> whats the resistor thing to force the BBB to boot off the SD card?
Apr 29 11:09:29 <leighbb> Hi monoxide_13, it's the latest mainline kernel from Linus
Apr 29 11:14:43 <leighbb> I didn't think that gpios property warning was an issue, but could be wrong
Apr 29 12:01:22 <MHAH> hiii
Apr 29 12:01:31 <Dennis_fresher> hello, I have the beagle bone black.  Where can I find the arm linux c++ compiler for my BBB ?
Apr 29 12:02:05 <LetoThe2nd> linaro, coudesourcery, debian/ubuntu repositories schould do.
Apr 29 12:02:12 <MHAH> hey my and my friend writing a reasearch about single board computers any ideas??
Apr 29 12:02:22 <bzyx> Dennis_fresher: it depeends if you want crosscompile or compile on bbb?
Apr 29 12:02:39 <Dennis_fresher> I want to compile directly on bbb
Apr 29 12:03:31 <Dennis_fresher> I am using Debian wheezy  hard float
Apr 29 12:03:31 <bzyx> and are you using debian? if yes then sudo apt-get install gcc etc.
Apr 29 12:03:46 <LetoThe2nd> Dennis_fresher: then just install it through the packaging system of the distribution on the BBB
Apr 29 12:04:14 <Dennis_fresher> ok....thanks....I will install gcc
Apr 29 12:04:55 <bzyx> have fun :)
Apr 29 12:06:37 <Dennis_fresher> just one clarification : there is no optimized armhf-compiler, right  ?
Apr 29 12:06:52 <Dennis_fresher> g++ in debian wheezy is the standard ?
Apr 29 12:07:43 <bzyx> the compiler will be optimized as your distribution i guess
Apr 29 12:07:43 <LetoThe2nd> if you are runnign an armhf distribution, then the included compilers will of course also default to armhf
Apr 29 12:08:01 <LetoThe2nd> and it will optimize as much as you tell it to.
Apr 29 12:08:13 <bzyx> and yes g++ must be in debian repositories
Apr 29 12:08:48 <Dennis_fresher> ok thanks ! I downloaded  the bone-debian-7.4-2014-04-23-2gb distribution
Apr 29 12:09:00 <Dennis_fresher> and installed it....
Apr 29 12:29:41 <beagle13> monoxide_13: i tried the way you mentioned. but still im not able to access wifi alone
Apr 29 12:59:17 <monoxide_13> beagle13, are you getting connected to the network now?
Apr 29 13:00:19 <monoxide_13> If you're on an wpa encripted encrypted you'll have to use wpa_supplicant
Apr 29 13:01:02 <monoxide_13> lawls, look me correcting myself
Apr 29 13:02:18 <monoxide_13> beagle13, what's your wireless card?
Apr 29 15:31:02 <VoltVisionSteve> Hello all!  I usually run the BBB headless.  Has anyone installed JACK on the BBB or do most people stay with ALSA?  I am getting to know how I can work with Midi/Audio/Sequencing on the BBB.  Thx!
Apr 29 16:00:02 <Peanut> W00t, I just got mine!
Apr 29 16:02:37 <Peanut> Been trying since early Februari. Plan is to use the PRU for timestamping a Rb clock and locking it to GPS/NTP.
Apr 29 16:05:50 <mranostay> so who is in the keynote area
Apr 29 16:10:51 <KotH> mranostay: nobody
Apr 29 16:12:13 <mranostay> KotH: bite me
Apr 29 16:13:14 <KotH> come here and i'll do it
Apr 29 17:01:24 <saad_> hello guys
Apr 29 17:01:54 <saad_> i wanted to get some info regarding the xM
Apr 29 17:02:28 <saad_> i am interested in the physical dimensions on the board and all the ports attached to it
Apr 29 17:02:50 <saad_> can anyone please help me out
Apr 29 17:05:18 <vagrantc> saad_: the ports are listed on http://beagleboard.org/Products/BeagleBoard-xM
Apr 29 17:25:42 <jg_> https://github.com/beagleboard/am335x_pru_package/issues/3 says the interrupt firing twice has been fixed but I noticed in the latest debian image (4-23) I'm seeing double fires
Apr 29 17:25:54 <jg_> has any one else noticed this behavior?
Apr 29 17:41:14 <jg_> So no one has info on the PRU interrupt firing twice
Apr 29 18:02:38 <fohnbit> Hello! Can I use at the BBB serial ports and digital inputs or analog inputs at the same time?
Apr 29 22:37:33 <Tbates> Hi gang..
Apr 29 22:38:54 <Tbates> Can anyone tell me if there is an flashable or boot Image floating around that supports BB rev b, with BBView 4.3 display? the Element4 site is down..
Apr 29 23:10:52 <nyt-> there a quick way to update cloud9 without reinstalling a new image?
Apr 29 23:14:18 <idwer> archlinux is low profile too
Apr 29 23:14:39 <dsmith-work> This PRU thing sounds very interesting.  Anyone have any links to real applications (not just blinking lights)?
Apr 29 23:15:41 <idwer> arch, or manjaro
Apr 29 23:32:20 <zerotri> Any of you debian folks had any luck getting Adafruit_BBIO properly working in 3.8.x? This device tree thing has caused me quite a headache.
Apr 30 01:01:43 <Tbates> Does anyone have this file?? BB-View Pre-Compiled TI-SDK Image.zip
Apr 30 01:48:31 <nyt-> its on element14's site
Apr 30 01:48:45 <nyt-> btw, there are lcd's that "just work"
Apr 30 01:48:48 <nyt-> that's not one of htem
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