**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu May 01 02:59:59 2014
May 01 04:24:29 <rahul_> Hii all
May 01 04:24:41 <rahul_> I installed debian on my BBB
May 01 04:24:49 <rahul_> i need to work on qt
May 01 04:25:14 <rahul_> so i installed qtcreator, it is asking for toolchain which one to use in debian?
May 01 04:26:47 <tbr> are you going to cross compile for x86 or MIPS or what?
May 01 04:27:25 <rahul_> x86
May 01 04:27:48 <rahul_> I had downloaded the qt-everywhere-opensource-src-4.8.5.tar.gz from qt website
May 01 04:28:05 <tbr> what on earth prompts you to develop for x86 on a BBB?
May 01 04:28:29 <tbr> that must be the possibly most inefficient workflow I've seen in a while
May 01 04:28:40 <rahul_> Nope.. you are getting me wrong, i dont want to make app for BBB only
May 01 04:29:00 <rahul_> I want to use qt over my BBB
May 01 04:29:22 <tbr> then start at square zero, explain your setup
May 01 04:29:32 <rahul_> Ohk
May 01 04:29:47 <rahul_> i began with installation of debian
May 01 04:29:49 <tbr> what is on your desk that you are trying to work with. keep in mind we don't see that from here.
May 01 04:29:50 <rahul_> on BB
May 01 04:30:18 <rahul_> I
May 01 04:30:26 <rahul_> sorry
May 01 04:30:48 <rahul_> i installed debian on my BBB and now i want to install qt 4.8.5 over it
May 01 04:30:54 <rahul_> so that i can make app on it
May 01 04:31:11 <rahul_> and now i am ob ubuntu 12.04
May 01 04:31:52 <rahul_> And also i want to make app over my ubuntu desktop and so it can run over my BBB
May 01 04:32:14 <tbr> which debian version are you running on the BBB?
May 01 04:33:04 <rahul_> 3.8.13
May 01 04:36:34 <tbr> that is not a debian version
May 01 04:42:02 <rahul_> tbr - 7.5
May 01 04:43:51 <tbr> ok, so it's a wheezy
May 01 04:44:25 <tbr> wheezy has a complete qt 4.8.2 in the repositories, why aren't you using this?
May 01 04:45:46 <rahul_> how to use that? by apt-get?
May 01 04:45:53 <tbr> yes
May 01 04:46:02 <rahul_> i did it with that only
May 01 04:47:09 <rahul_> tbr, i am getting that i have no space left
May 01 04:47:39 <rahul_> http://bpaste.net/show/wKNSIjlY7utbEGanA5Zx/
May 01 04:47:41 <rahul_> see this
May 01 04:47:52 <rahul_> it is showing only 4 gb of space
May 01 04:48:09 <rahul_> but i am using 8 gb card
May 01 04:49:14 <tbr> you seem to have dumped a lot of stuff on your device then
May 01 04:49:39 <tbr> also you could probably just resize the rootfs partition and the fs
May 01 04:51:38 <rahul_> tbr, yes .. :(
May 01 04:51:46 <rahul_> now do i format it again?
May 01 04:53:05 <tbr> you could just delete whatever you put there or resize the filesystem...
May 01 04:53:57 <rahul_> can you help me with how to do it?
May 01 04:54:08 <rahul_> do i delete the packages in archive?
May 01 04:56:07 <Korque> <k-man> what are the pins you have to put a resistor across to force booting from the SD card on the BBB? <-- I worked around this problem with a debian SD card by adding mmcdev=0 to uEnv.txt
May 01 04:56:27 <Korque> the same thing on an sd card with angstrom didn't seem to work, though
May 01 04:56:58 <Korque> (uEnv.txt on the card's fat partition)
May 01 05:05:27 <k-man> Korque, ok thanks
May 01 05:05:33 <k-man> its all very all over the place
May 01 05:05:57 <k-man> i tried already deleting the something or other file - but i made a mistake and delteted it from the SD card by accident - then I couldn't boot at all
May 01 05:06:08 <k-man> but luckily i had a backup and was able to recover
May 01 05:41:24 <rahul_> i now installed BeageBone Black Ubuntu Precise 12.04.3 LTS
May 01 05:42:12 <rahul_> as i am trying to ssh it it is asking for password what is the password- i tried ubuntu, beaglebone, root but it is not working
May 01 05:42:42 <ds2> what user?
May 01 05:43:22 <rahul_> i am trying with ubuntu-armhf@ip addr
May 01 05:44:10 <rahul_> and also done with ubuntu@ip addr  and root@ubuntu.local
May 01 05:45:05 <rahul_> any suggestions?
May 01 05:52:35 <rahul_> help me please
May 01 05:53:39 <johnwalkr> where did you get the image?
May 01 05:53:40 <LetoThe2nd> rahul_: read the notes where you downloaded ubuntu. usually user/password are written there.
May 01 05:53:48 <johnwalkr> ubuntu / reverse is one
May 01 05:54:24 <rahul_> johnwalkr, i got the image from armhf
May 01 05:54:27 <rahul_> websit
May 01 05:54:28 <johnwalkr> ubuntu / ubuntu and ubuntu / temppwd are others i’ve run across
May 01 05:54:48 <rahul_> http://www.armhf.com/download/
May 01 05:55:00 * tbr really starts to favor developer images that come with authentication disabled, root, enter, in.
May 01 05:55:15 <johnwalkr> Ubuntu Logon ubuntu-armhf as user ubuntu with a password of ubuntu
May 01 05:55:25 <johnwalkr> but tbr for ssh that usually doesn’t work
May 01 05:55:36 <johnwalkr> images that require a display or serial on first boot are annoying
May 01 05:56:31 <johnwalkr> rahul_: “Ubuntu Logon ubuntu-armhf as user ubuntu with a password of ubuntu”
May 01 05:56:54 <johnwalkr> those are not really clear directions but the host is ubuntu-armhf.local
May 01 05:56:58 <johnwalkr> user and pass are ubuntu
May 01 05:57:17 <rahul_> johnwalkr, you mean ubuntu-armhf@ip addr
May 01 05:57:20 <rahul_> ?
May 01 05:57:41 <johnwalkr> no
May 01 05:57:45 <rahul_> so?
May 01 05:58:00 <johnwalkr> ubuntu@ip address
May 01 05:58:12 <rahul_> yes i tried
May 01 05:58:18 <rahul_> what to put in password
May 01 05:58:27 <johnwalkr> or ubuntu@ubuntu-armhf.local
May 01 05:59:01 <johnwalkr> you can use the hostname.local (usually, maybe not if you are on windows) or the ip address
May 01 05:59:12 <rahul_> I am on linux
May 01 05:59:20 <johnwalkr> according to here: http://www.armhf.com/getting-started-with-ubuntu-img-file/
May 01 05:59:28 <johnwalkr> it’s ubuntu/ubuntu
May 01 05:59:38 <rahul_> but it is not working
May 01 05:59:58 <johnwalkr> then i dunno :(
May 01 06:00:05 <rahul_> i tried with ubuntu@ip and ubuntu-armhf@ip
May 01 06:00:15 <johnwalkr> and password ubuntu?
May 01 06:00:24 <rahul_> yes i am putting it
May 01 06:00:47 <johnwalkr> can you ping ubuntu-armhf.local ?
May 01 06:01:12 <rahul_> ping: unknown host ubuntu-armhf.local
May 01 06:01:15 <rahul_> getting this
May 01 06:02:04 <johnwalkr> ok, then maybe it’s not flashed correctly, or you somehow used a different image
May 01 06:02:07 <johnwalkr> do you know the ip address?
May 01 06:02:21 <rahul_> yes i know
May 01 06:02:49 <rahul_> i flashed it by xz -cd image > /dev/sdb
May 01 06:04:05 <johnwalkr> when you use the ip address for ssh, it prompts for a password?
May 01 06:04:20 <rahul_> Yes..
May 01 06:05:13 <johnwalkr> the only thing i can think of is if you somehow got a different image onto it, on linux most of the time the ubuntu-armhf.local hostname should work
May 01 06:05:36 <johnwalkr> try login:ubuntu password:temppwd
May 01 06:06:14 <rahul_> not working :(
May 01 06:06:47 <johnwalkr> do you have a serial cable to connect to it?
May 01 06:06:56 <johnwalkr> failing that i would jsut start the whole process over
May 01 06:07:17 <rahul_> No i don't have
May 01 06:07:31 <rahul_> i have screen with me but is not showing any thing there
May 01 06:07:36 <rahul_> no signa
May 01 06:07:39 <johnwalkr> oh
May 01 06:07:49 <johnwalkr> yeah i would just start over
May 01 06:07:57 <rahul_> how?
May 01 06:07:59 <johnwalkr> chances are it will save you time
May 01 06:08:15 <rahul_> Ok,
May 01 06:08:24 <tbr> johnwalkr: bull. of course you can configure a distro so that you can ssh in as root with no password.
May 01 06:08:33 <johnwalkr> i know you can
May 01 06:09:48 <rahul_> do i flsh it again?
May 01 06:10:44 <johnwalkr> yeah rahul_. for no particular reason (except maybe that the armhf site is often down) i prefer these images: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#eMMC:_BeagleBone_Black
May 01 06:11:21 <johnwalkr> i just used that ubuntu image the other day
May 01 06:12:36 <rahul_> so do i start from here?
May 01 06:30:08 <johnwalkr> yeah rahul_ , sorry missed you message
May 01 06:30:21 <rahul_> i have a debian image with me
May 01 06:30:27 <rahul_> i am trying with it
May 01 06:30:38 <johnwalkr> that “flasher” image is really easy
May 01 06:31:00 <johnwalkr> if you want to get ubuntu onto the emmc anyway
May 01 06:31:12 <rahul_> johnwalkr, i didn't unterstood how to do it
May 01 06:31:58 <rahul_> i downloaded that script file
May 01 06:32:05 <rahul_> but where to place it
May 01 06:32:45 <johnwalkr> oh, no
May 01 06:32:53 <johnwalkr> sorry, those instructions could be clearer
May 01 06:32:59 <johnwalkr> the link after that is a prebuilt image
May 01 06:33:02 <johnwalkr> much easier
May 01 06:33:24 <rahul_> yes i downloaded that one also..
May 01 06:37:54 <pzebelloni> Hi! On several BBB rev. B I notice serious problem in power-up: almost never BBB starts when plugged to +5V AC adapter (bought from Farnell as BBB suggested companion). May somebody suggest a solution?
May 01 06:44:34 <tbr> pzebelloni: a) do the boards have the dog on the stencil?
May 01 06:48:53 <pzebelloni> No. Sorry for the delay... BBB was boxed
May 01 06:52:26 <pzebelloni> The problem is the same in all the first 3 boards I checked out, part of a group of 10.
May 01 06:53:59 <pzebelloni> They start after several short pushes on power botton, keeping on +5V power.
May 01 06:56:23 <pzebelloni> I changed also u_boot.img and MLO files with the patched versions, as suggested somewere... I don't remember where I'we read about a similar problem.
May 01 07:01:15 <tbr> pzebelloni: would you please answer my question?
May 01 07:02:02 <pzebelloni> No. There is no dogs in stencil.
May 01 07:02:54 <tbr> so it looks like the one on the left? http://www.cnx-software.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Embest_BBB_vs_CircuitCo_BBB.jpg
May 01 07:04:11 <pzebelloni> SORRY! The one on the right! I've fond the dog!
May 01 07:04:28 <tbr> ok, that again is interesting
May 01 07:05:22 <pzebelloni> FYI: the white label reports a "B"
May 01 07:05:41 <tbr> could you try if they boot more reliably if you have a microsd card with one of the standard images in it?
May 01 07:07:02 <pzebelloni> Just a moment... I have one.
May 01 07:07:39 <rahul_> tbr, i am now on debian again after so many stuffs
May 01 07:07:41 <rahul_> :)
May 01 07:07:49 <rahul_> so what to install here for qt
May 01 07:08:22 <pzebelloni> No. It's the same: a short blink of power led and stop.
May 01 07:08:43 <tbr> rahul_: that is not BBB specific. YOU should know what sort of qt packages you will need to run your software.
May 01 07:09:18 <tbr> pzebelloni: but the sd card in general does have a bootable image on it, right?
May 01 07:09:40 <pzebelloni> yes
May 01 07:09:54 <rahul_> ok
May 01 07:10:09 <tbr> pzebelloni: what sort of power supply is this?
May 01 07:11:07 <pzebelloni> Emerson 5V 2A sold by Farnell as BBB companion power supply.
May 01 07:11:23 <tbr> ok
May 01 07:11:45 <tbr> just to rule out that the PSU is a dud, could you try what happens if you power the boards over USB?
May 01 07:11:59 <pzebelloni> It works perfectly.
May 01 07:12:40 <tbr> if powering over USB works, then the power supply is faulty and needs to be replaced
May 01 07:12:52 <pzebelloni> After power (with pushes on power button) all my 3 BBBs work fine.
May 01 07:15:47 <nyt-> is 9_14 used for capes at all?
May 01 07:16:36 <tbr> pzebelloni: I find it interesting that you say you have to press power. I never had to do that.
May 01 07:17:19 <pzebelloni> Wow... I'm very glad to be the first :-)
May 01 07:18:41 <pzebelloni> Resume: power led blinks once at +5V plug.
May 01 07:19:08 <tbr> your power supply is most likely faulty, replace it
May 01 07:19:32 <pzebelloni> Then I push briefly several times (from 1 to... say a number) and BBB starts
May 01 07:20:28 <pzebelloni> I had the same problem on 3 different devices... looks strange. I can connect a laboratory power supply.
May 01 07:20:42 <pzebelloni> can you wait?
May 01 07:21:01 <tbr> this is IRC, long delays are part of it
May 01 07:21:40 <pzebelloni> ok
May 01 07:25:16 <pzebelloni> I think you're right... It works perfectly with the laboratory power supply.
May 01 07:26:05 <pzebelloni> Now I'll grab current waveform with current probe.
May 01 07:28:36 <nyt-> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002FA5WE2/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
May 01 07:28:39 <nyt-> those workwell
May 01 07:28:39 <nyt-> fyi
May 01 07:35:01 <pzebelloni> BBB sink 4 A @ power up, then after 200 [us] drops to 200 [mA].
May 01 07:44:27 <pzebelloni> BBB sinks 4 [A] for at least 100 [us], then drop near zero. Then after several [ms], there are at least other 2 current peaks, around 3 [A].
May 01 07:45:19 <pzebelloni> After few hundredths, current stabilize around 250 [mA].
May 01 07:46:39 <pzebelloni> So... It looks that initial peaks may be unsupported by adapters, so BBB hangs.
May 01 07:51:39 <pzebelloni> Thank you for the suggestion... I assumed too early that 2 [A] power adapters were above all suspicion...
May 01 08:26:45 <rahul_> Hii..
May 01 08:26:50 <rahul_> At last its working
May 01 08:26:51 <rahul_>  :)
May 01 08:27:13 <rahul_> But i have problem in camera no video0 is displaying in /dev
May 01 08:27:34 <tbr> that will depend on the camera you are using
May 01 08:27:53 <rahul_> it is working fine with my ubuntu machine
May 01 08:27:57 <tbr> does it work on a linux desktop? which kernel modules does it use there?
May 01 08:28:08 <rahul_> and on Rpi and Friendly arm
May 01 08:28:38 <rahul_> it is working fine
May 01 08:29:59 <rahul_> it is using uvcvideo there
May 01 08:33:46 <rahul_> and here on beagle bone i am executing
May 01 08:36:48 <rahul_> Any suggestions?
May 01 08:37:15 <rahul_> There is no module here recognizing
May 01 08:37:22 <rahul_> for camera
May 01 08:37:46 <tbr> try to modprobe that module
May 01 08:37:55 <tbr> if it isn't there then you might need to build it
May 01 08:40:42 <rahul_> Ohkk
May 01 08:41:11 <rahul_> and also as i am inserting usb camera in BBB usb port no change in dmesg | tail
May 01 08:44:51 <tbr> is that an USB1.1 device?
May 01 08:50:09 <rahul_> tbr, how to check it?
May 01 08:51:55 <rahul_> tbr, i did modprobe also
May 01 08:52:03 <rahul_> but it isn't working
May 01 08:52:05 <tbr> rahul_: lsusb will help you in this. you need to do this on a machine that recognizes the camera
May 01 08:53:18 <rahul_> Bus 001 Device 026: ID 090c:037c Silicon Motion, Inc. - Taiwan (formerly Feiya Technology Corp.)
May 01 08:54:10 <tbr> I'm not going to do this for you. This is an exercise for you to investigate this.
May 01 08:55:29 <bzyx> Hi, have anyone here tried running ETM driver (linux/arch/arm/kernel/etm.c) on BBB ? I see that its init is called but not anything else. Any hints what could be the cause?
May 01 08:55:29 <rahul_> Okk
May 01 08:56:48 <rahul_> Well, one more problem arised i have HDMI display also connected it suddenly says no signal. and the keyboard i attach to BBB port is not working. but ssh is working fine
May 01 08:57:39 <nyt-> how are you powering your bbb
May 01 09:06:14 <rahul_> it is now recognizing
May 01 09:06:33 <rahul_> but only when if i don't do ssh
May 01 09:09:24 <tbr> rahul_: would you mind answering nyt-'s question?
May 01 09:11:13 * nyt- adding on the fly dtb building my ruby gem...
May 01 09:11:19 <nyt-> for gpio at least
May 01 09:13:56 <rahul_> nyt-, i am powering it by 5v supply
May 01 09:16:26 <rahul_> Do i need to put all peripherels before powering up BBB
May 01 09:17:12 <nyt-> it helps otherwise there can be a power draw while its running.  Try a dif power supply if you're having these issues with peripherals turning off when you plug others in
May 01 09:18:18 <rahul_> What power supply do i need atleast?
May 01 09:19:12 <rahul_> why it draws peripherals if i don't use them for some time and same with HDMI Display it says No signal after some time
May 01 09:19:45 <tbr> rahul_: what sort of power supply is this?
May 01 09:20:42 <rahul_> I am giving power supply of 5 v with adapter to uSB hub
May 01 09:45:22 <rahul_> Why it is lost as i reinsert the usb peripherels
May 01 09:54:01 <tbr> what is the current rating of your 5V power supply?
May 01 09:56:54 <rahul_> what do you mean by it?
May 01 09:57:02 <rahul_> can we test the voltage ob BBB
May 01 10:00:23 <rahul_> input is 100-240VAC 50/60hz
May 01 10:00:29 <rahul_> tbr, ^
May 01 10:00:46 <rahul_> output is DC 5V 2000mA
May 01 10:01:07 <tbr> that last bit is the important information
May 01 10:01:33 <rahul_> So you mean by mA
May 01 10:01:34 <tbr> and you have this directly connected to the BBB? to the mini-usb or the barrel connector?
May 01 10:01:34 <rahul_> ?
May 01 10:02:15 <rahul_> No i had connected it to usb hub and then supplying power from usb
May 01 10:02:20 <rahul_> to BBB
May 01 10:02:32 <tbr> power it directly
May 01 10:03:24 <rahul_> by direct adapters
May 01 10:04:18 <tbr> can't you attach the power supply to the BBB instead of your USB hub?
May 01 10:05:34 <nyt-> painful ;)
May 01 10:24:18 <rahul_> I did it..
May 01 10:24:35 <rahul_> But still as i am reinserting my usb devices it is painful
May 01 10:31:11 <rahul_> why it happens?
May 01 10:31:59 <rahul_> It looks like usb leaves power after i removes the Usb hub from there
May 01 10:35:06 <tbr> that last sentence doesn't make sense
May 01 10:35:49 <tbr> I would suggest to get a second, good, power supply for the BBB. it needs to reliably supply 5V and up to 2A
May 01 10:36:36 <rahul_> But it is giving a supply of 5v
May 01 10:36:46 <rahul_> can i test it by multi meter
May 01 10:36:49 <tbr> we do not know about its quality
May 01 10:37:16 <rahul_> there are tp5 tp6 tp7 tp8.
May 01 10:37:16 <tbr> given the problems you experience it is very likely that the power supply is to blame
May 01 10:37:46 <rahul_> Ohkk, i agree but why my HDMI screen say it has no signa
May 01 10:37:55 <tbr> same reason
May 01 10:38:13 <tbr> at the very least you should borrow a known good power supply, preferably a lab power supply and test the board with that
May 01 10:38:37 <rahul_> and ssh is working fine
May 01 10:50:55 <rahul_> voltage coming from adapter is 5.29
May 01 10:50:58 <rahul_> v
May 01 10:51:32 <rahul_> and rating between tp2 and tp4 is 3.39
May 01 10:55:37 <rahul_> tbr, it is correct, but getting same problems, as i am reinserting. i got an article which says that i have to connect atleast a usb device powered
May 01 10:55:41 <rahul_> there
May 01 10:56:33 <tbr> rahul_: test with a lab power supply. until then I have no further comment.
May 01 11:44:49 <Peanut> Hi, question - I've just booted with the Debian updater image. Can you log in while the image is updating the eMMC? How can I see if the updater is running?
May 01 11:51:57 <tbr> I guess you should be able to connect to it, either over SSH or virtual serial port if you connect by USB
May 01 11:52:12 <tbr> also it should turn on all leds once it's done
May 01 11:54:36 <Peanut> tbr: Ok, thanks. Oh, look, the LEDS just all went on, it's done. That went much faster than expected.
May 01 11:54:51 <tbr> 5-10minutes IIRC
May 01 11:55:02 <Peanut> Ah, the webpage says it can take up to 45 minutes.
May 01 11:55:07 <tbr> first boot might be quite slow,
May 01 11:55:24 <tbr> at least it was on angstrom. it took 10 or 20min for anything to appear over USB
May 01 11:56:43 <Peanut> The storage device is already mounted again.
May 01 11:57:00 <Peanut> And I'm logged in, neat.
May 01 11:58:44 <tbr> :)
May 01 12:01:20 <Peanut> The Ethernet doesn't seem to work very well.. it takes ages to get a DHCP lease, and the green led is blinking all the time.
May 01 12:05:59 <Peanut> The EThernet loses a lot of packets, is this a known problem?
May 01 12:17:10 <tbr> I didn't have problems with that
May 01 12:17:51 <Peanut> tbr: somethign odd here. I had it connected behind my VOIP-phone, and network performance was horrible. Now I've unplugged the phone and things work much better.
May 01 12:21:18 <tbr> heh
May 01 12:26:15 * Peanut throws the stupid VOIP phone out the window. 
May 01 12:49:31 <mamar59> Hello, Can someone help me with my BBB ? I think i bricked it, I cant start it anymore, I was flashing it with Ubuntu and the leds dont blink anymore, im actually trying to connect it with an usb to serial port but when i try to access to the console i get a blank screen
May 01 13:17:11 <mamar59> Hello, Can someone help me with my BBB ? I think i bricked it, I cant start it anymore, I was flashing it with Ubuntu and the leds dont blink anymore, im actually trying to connect it with an usb to serial port but when i try to access to the console i get a blank screen
May 01 13:22:12 <Dan3> you cant really "brick" a BBB
May 01 13:22:33 <Dan3> its probably just your image is corrupt
May 01 13:22:50 <Dan3> download it again. and reburn it to your SD card and start again from the beginning
May 01 13:24:31 <thurgood> ... not with software anyway
May 01 13:26:11 <mamar59> i already tried many times with ubuntu and angstrom distros but i cant get it to work anymore the only led that get lit is the power one
May 01 13:30:53 <tbr> mamar59: are you able to boot from microSD card?
May 01 13:32:33 <mamar59> tbr: no it do not work
May 01 13:32:55 <tbr> mamar59: how are you preparing an microSD card?
May 01 13:36:04 <mamar59> tbr: http://beagleboard.org/Getting%20Started
May 01 13:37:04 <tbr> mamar59: are you on linux or on windows?
May 01 13:40:56 <mamar59> tbr: i tried on both
May 01 13:41:52 <tbr> mamar59: can you please try doing this again on linux and then paste the 'dd' command line you use?
May 01 13:47:54 <mamar59> tbr: should i try with angstrom or ubuntu ?
May 01 13:48:15 <tbr> use either an official angstrom or debian image
May 01 13:50:22 <mamar59> tbr: ok
May 01 13:51:58 <mamar59> tbr: emmc flasher version or normal?
May 01 13:52:30 <tbr> normal
May 01 13:53:08 <mamar59> ok
May 01 15:10:42 <Steell> Hi everybody ! I need some help pls. I've connected my BB in USB and I've installed the drivers for windows. But it seems that the ethernet gadget is not installed. I can't see my BB in Network connections. How can I do ?
May 01 15:14:41 <idwer> install the rndis driver
May 01 15:14:52 <idwer> bbb?
May 01 15:15:13 <Steell> No it's a BB rev A6.
May 01 15:27:09 <Steell> It say that the device can't work :s
May 01 15:29:56 <johnwalkr> lol http://www.amazon.co.jp/BeagleBoard-org-BB-BBLK-00-BeagleBone-Black/dp/B00CHHMZ9S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398958181&sr=8-1&keywords=beaglebone+black
May 01 15:29:58 <johnwalkr> that’s $200
May 01 15:43:19 <Peanut> I paid € 51.37 for mine, that's including shipping.
May 01 15:59:02 <Cedric__> Hello
May 01 15:59:20 <Cedric__> Is there a CEC-Client package for the BealgeBone black?
May 01 16:01:58 <mamar59> tbr: are you here?
May 01 16:04:18 <Cedric__> Need some help
May 01 16:04:21 <Cedric__> Hello?
May 01 16:16:40 <mamar59> Hello, Can someone help me with my BBB ? I think i bricked it, I cant start it anymore, I was flashing it with Ubuntu and the leds dont blink anymore, im actually trying to connect it with an usb to serial port but when i try to access to the console i get a blank screen
May 01 16:17:42 <tbr> mamar59: yes?
May 01 16:19:32 <mamar59> tbr; i just tried one more time and it still doesnt work
May 01 16:20:48 <mamar59> tbr; the power led is lit and the ethernet leds are too but i still cant start it
May 01 16:23:49 <tbr> mamar59: I asked you for something specific. I do not see it.
May 01 16:25:57 <tbr> mamar59: please keep in mind that we do not see what you were doing and summarizing that with "doesn't work" does not help us to understand what is going on.
May 01 16:26:06 <mamar59> tbr: im not on the same pc but the dd command did not made any error
May 01 16:26:37 <mamar59> tbr: the image is in the sd card but the bbb wont boot on it
May 01 16:26:44 <tbr> mamar59: I do not give a flying … if it gave you an error or not. I want the EXACT command you used and I want to see it here on the channel.
May 01 16:29:44 <mamar59> tbr: sudo dd if=bone-debian-7.4-2014-04-23-2gb.img of=/dev/sdb
May 01 16:30:28 <tbr> mamar59: did you unmount the sdcard before you wrote to it?
May 01 16:31:03 <mamar59> tbr: yes i did
May 01 16:38:57 <tbr> mamar59: how are you powering the board?
May 01 16:39:45 <mamar59> by usb cable
May 01 17:03:24 <mamar59> ??
May 01 17:07:18 <ryansturmer> Hey there folks
May 01 17:07:59 <ryansturmer> Does the BBB have support for USB OTG (USB port acting as a client rather than a host type port)?
May 01 17:12:32 <_av500_> yes and no
May 01 17:12:55 <_av500_> the CPU can probably do it, but not how it is set up on the BBB
May 01 17:13:17 <_av500_> like you cannot switch the 5V usb power
May 01 17:18:12 <ryansturmer> ah, drag
May 01 17:19:17 <johnwalkr> what was the question, that answer sounds interesting
May 01 19:02:28 <ryansturmer> My question was does the beaglebone support USB OTG
May 01 19:03:09 <ryansturmer> ie, can I talk to the device as a USB client, rather than host
May 01 19:06:50 <XorA> it is a USB client :-)
May 01 19:09:31 <ryansturmer> Yeah, duh!  I was just realizing that, and trying to pull up information about its USB connection, but coming up short.  Is there a really good resource for that?
May 01 19:16:21 <Jay__> hello guys
May 01 19:26:58 <tbr> ryansturmer: you said OTG and that implies much more
May 01 19:27:34 <myself> I think of 'em as boy, girl, and hermaphrodite. The first and second cases are much simpler than the third.
May 01 19:27:47 <tbr> sort of that
May 01 19:27:51 <myself> (You see, when two device descriptors love each other very much..)
May 01 19:30:41 <dohb> hello, can anybody suggest me a camera that gives high quality pictures of objects in short range for bb-xM?
May 01 19:30:51 <dohb> I am searching on internet
May 01 19:31:15 <dohb> but do not know the terminology of cameras
May 01 20:14:14 <jkridner> ryansturmer: it is only client on the client port. Some analysis of the schematic will show it is possible to turn it into a host port, but the board doesn't support it directly. There is also the host port.
May 01 20:15:21 <ryansturmer> I think actually looking at the documentation, that the client port provided is sufficient for my needs
May 01 20:21:32 <StevePeat> Hello !
May 01 20:23:00 <StevePeat> I recently bought a beagleboard rev C5 and erased the NAND totally... I am now trying to have a system running on it that I don't have to use through my serial port because it's not very well working. What would be your advice ? (choice of the linux version especially)
May 01 20:25:13 <StevePeat> Is it possible to set up crunchbag on my beagleboard ?
May 01 20:26:32 <StevePeat> is someone reading what I wrote down ? :)
May 01 20:29:43 <pjustice> your irc client works :)
May 01 20:30:48 <StevePeat> ah thanks :)
May 01 20:34:23 <rollietikes> anyone know where to get a Beagle Black next day air?
May 01 20:34:50 <StevePeat> oh, one more question and I'll be done for now. When I sue minicom I receive good and bad ascii letters... So it's working at 50% I would say. Any idea why ?
May 01 20:34:51 <jkridner> I think Adafruit can do it. Radio Shack in the US often has them in stock.
May 01 20:34:56 <jkridner> MicroCenter in the US as well.
May 01 20:35:12 <jkridner> Special Computing can likely do overnight as well.
May 01 20:35:22 <jkridner> Others are unlikely to have stock.
May 01 20:35:35 <jkridner> (because they take backorders and larger orders)
May 01 20:36:01 <Cedric__> Has the Beaglebone cec support?
May 01 20:36:51 <rollietikes> thanks everyone
May 01 20:42:05 <jkridner> Cedric__: nice job waiting for an answer. :(
May 01 20:44:22 <pjustice> StevePeat, maybe parity is misconfigured in minicom?
May 01 20:44:52 <idwer> StevePeat: 115200, 8n1 works for me
May 01 20:44:56 <idwer> or 9600, 8n1
May 01 20:49:26 <StevePeat> I don't think so
May 01 20:49:39 <StevePeat> when I mess the parity I only receive erroneous stuff
May 01 20:50:06 <StevePeat> In my case I receive something like 50% of the message
May 01 20:50:27 <idwer> so, I'm about to update angstrom..  while editing /etc/opkg/base-feed.conf is it ok to replace armv7a-vfp-neon with armv7ahf-vfp-neon?
May 01 20:52:20 <pjustice> StevePeat, how long is your serial cable?
May 01 20:53:19 <StevePeat> something like 2m + serial to usb which is 1m and the 10 pin-serial 30cm
May 01 20:55:04 <pjustice> you're probably down to swapping cable / usb-serial dongle etc to find a defective, then
May 01 20:55:14 <pjustice> hopefully it's not the bone
May 01 20:55:41 <StevePeat> damn
May 01 20:55:58 <StevePeat> I find them horribly expensive for such an old tech
May 01 20:57:57 <StevePeat> but thanks :) I appreciate your advice
May 01 21:49:06 <xaos> Hello everybody. I am using OrCAD 16.6 to build a daughterboard for the Beagle black. Anyone in here interested?
May 01 21:50:13 <veremit> to do what?
May 01 21:50:40 <xaos> 3 things:
May 01 21:51:17 <xaos> 2. Build a power supply that would go underneath (same dims).
May 01 21:51:35 <xaos> That was 1 :)
May 01 21:52:03 <xaos> 2. Build a custom board with additional I/O
May 01 21:52:26 <xaos> 3. A custom board to mount a GPS receiver (for timing apps)
May 01 21:52:47 <ds2> what's the point?
May 01 21:53:18 <Shadyman> all on one board?
May 01 21:53:26 <xaos> GPS Board is for timing applications (line Startum 1 NTP Server)
May 01 21:53:48 <Shadyman> xaos: like this? http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e94/MasterMWL/PCBs/GPS_Cape_zps6cb947cb.png
May 01 21:53:54 <xaos> No, I forsee building 3 additional boards (all the size of the beagle)
May 01 21:54:13 <Shadyman> :3
May 01 21:54:37 <veremit> 3?!
May 01 21:54:44 <ds2> this is something that you can do in an hour or so
May 01 21:56:18 <xaos> ds2: That's funny :) Maybe a month or 2
May 01 21:56:46 <Shadyman> xaos: my GPS cape took a day or three to layout
May 01 21:56:47 <ds2> I have a board that does video in, video out, GPS, lithium power, all done in about 8 hours
May 01 21:57:00 <xaos> The PS board and I/O board can be used by anyone. The GPS board is special purpose.
May 01 21:57:01 <Shadyman> but that's because GPS/RF signals are picky.
May 01 21:57:03 <ds2> oh and accelerometer, gyro, magnetometer and other features
May 01 21:57:19 <ds2> Shadyman: depends on your choice of GPSes
May 01 21:57:23 <Shadyman> ^
May 01 21:57:25 <Shadyman> Truth.
May 01 21:57:31 <ds2> the RF aspects can be designed out
May 01 21:57:41 <Shadyman> I have a module with an rf antenna onboard as well
May 01 21:57:47 <Shadyman> which would really only need data lines
May 01 21:58:04 <ds2> a basic GPS module interface is like 5 wires...Power, GND, RX, TX, PPS
May 01 21:58:19 <ds2> now if you need an off board antenna or amp...
May 01 21:58:23 <xaos> Since the GPS board will be for timing, There will be diff pairs to be layed out and timing parameters for the antenna conenction
May 01 21:58:38 <Vaizki> Huh
May 01 21:58:45 <ds2> why are you using an external antenna?
May 01 21:58:49 <xaos> yes
May 01 21:58:55 <xaos> A timing antenna
May 01 21:59:29 <ds2> how much more accurate is the timing antenna? not familiar with that...more familiar with the helical shielded surveying ones
May 01 21:59:42 <xaos> The GPS setup is for timing. Therefore that GPS Receiver will be stationary.
May 01 22:00:44 <xaos> Also the Power SUpply will be all Linear with transistor components to reduce Phase Noise and switching noise.
May 01 22:01:23 <Shadyman> xaos: Sounds like fun, but it's out of my league :)
May 01 22:01:24 <ds2> are you also making cans for the BBB?
May 01 22:01:52 <xaos> Now, here is my question: Does anyone here have a OrCAD board with just the headers and the mounting holes, etc: In other words: a proto board
May 01 22:01:55 <ds2> I don't really see the point of all that when there are switchers running free and loose on the BBB side along with the digital noise
May 01 22:03:14 <xaos> ds2: The GPS timing receiver is very susceptible to noise. I'd like to keep that to a minimum.
May 01 22:03:24 <Shadyman> xaos: Keep in mind that the bbb pins traces aren't all equal length to the headers
May 01 22:03:31 <ds2> xaos: but the GPS receiver is near the BBB
May 01 22:03:38 <xaos> Shady: I know :(
May 01 22:03:44 <ds2> xaos: which GPS receiver are you using?
May 01 22:04:23 <Shadyman> xaos: You'd almost be better running the receiver offboard and running a shielded cable to the 'bone
May 01 22:04:43 <xaos> ds2: Sirf 12 channel
May 01 22:05:01 * Shadyman drops a NEO-6T on his gps board and calls it a day
May 01 22:05:02 <ds2> xaos: bare chip?
May 01 22:06:04 <xaos> ds2: no, module
May 01 22:06:21 <ds2> aren't themodules pretty well shielded?
May 01 22:06:26 <Shadyman> lea-6t?
May 01 22:07:07 <Shadyman> ds2: From the top, yes. Bottom needs a pure ground and plated vias like my board has
May 01 22:07:30 <Shadyman> but the module's design guide would tell you how to design it in
May 01 22:07:49 <xaos> Yeah, so I need a nice ground for it.
May 01 22:07:56 <Shadyman> would depend where the digital vs rx portions of the module are, and such
May 01 22:08:01 <ds2> the modules I have used are shielded on the bottom too
May 01 22:08:03 <Shadyman> basically just follow the design guide :p
May 01 22:08:13 <ds2> but it never hurts to lay out ground down there
May 01 22:08:16 <xaos> the ground will also keep switching noise to a min, since the GPS board will be the top one.
May 01 22:09:09 <xaos> Anyway, my question was if anyone has already created a beagle proto board. It would save me thr trouble.
May 01 22:10:00 <xaos> If nobody has, I'll make one and publish it.
May 01 22:10:55 <xaos> I'm doing this for my personal timing needs so it will be OSS
May 01 22:11:28 <ds2> there might be ones done in Eagle
May 01 22:11:32 <ds2> not orcad
May 01 22:11:47 <ds2> but I find it sufficient to just draw the thing as pin headers
May 01 22:11:48 <xaos> Don't know Eagle.
May 01 22:12:26 <xaos> The board would need to connect to the beagle via the headers.
May 01 22:12:40 <xaos> SO everything can be  like a sandwitch
May 01 22:14:00 <xaos> I prefer the SIRF modules because I am familiar with the command set
May 01 22:14:33 <ds2> I'm using sirf modules, but I am using ones with onboard antenna
May 01 22:14:53 <xaos> IC
May 01 22:14:53 <ds2> be interesting to see how good of a timing you can get out of it... do you have equipment to measure that?
May 01 22:19:32 <xaos> HP counters all GPS synced to 10MHz.
May 01 22:29:34 <swguy> hi
May 01 22:30:35 <swguy> anyone here?
May 01 22:31:36 <swguy> Hi everyone
May 01 22:31:48 <xaos> Hello
May 01 22:32:08 <swguy> is this the right place to ask questions about BBB?
May 01 22:34:57 <xaos> yup. WHat's up ?
May 01 22:34:59 <Shadyman> swguy: You got it.
May 01 22:36:09 <Shadyman> Guess not.
May 01 22:36:21 <Shadyman> xaos: I made a protoboard, but not in orcad, sorry
May 01 22:37:17 <xaos> That's ok dude. Usually, by doing the proto board I get more  exp with the system anyway. win-win.
May 01 22:43:01 <Shadyman> :D
May 01 23:53:56 <ausjke> trying to use narcissus to get an image for beaglebone revA3, only saw beagleboard as the machine there, will that work?
May 02 01:10:04 <Ian_> does anyone know how to restore the B^3 to stock angstrom? I put the image file in a microSD but the holding the boot button doesnt seem to be working.
May 02 01:56:01 <dgriffi> so, if I have a 4GB or 8GB SD card on which I want to put Debian, I boot the onboard MMC and do netinstall from there?
May 02 02:09:57 <nyt-> so
May 02 02:10:02 <nyt-> p9_14 is documented as being gpio40
May 02 02:10:08 <nyt-> seems to be 50 in reality
May 02 02:17:47 <nyt-> and in other news, ruby lib now has dynamic dts creation/compiling/loading
May 02 02:17:54 <nyt-> so slew rate and pullup are available
May 02 02:17:55 * nyt- rejoice
May 02 02:21:38 <nyt-> will push that out once i get this all clean and nice
May 02 02:29:59 <ausjke> http://pastebin.com/05KUV4L4
May 02 02:30:20 <ausjke> opkg update on a fresh 2013.6.20 SD image failed, is it because I'm using usb-serial?
May 02 02:30:37 <ausjke> which provides both power and a serial port? this is a beaglebone A3
May 02 02:30:53 <nyt-> usb serial doesnt give you internet access
May 02 02:30:54 <ausjke> sucks
May 02 02:31:07 <ausjke> i do have an ehternet cable which works
May 02 02:31:27 <ausjke> a usb/serial and an ethernet, it upgrades for 10+ minutes then stuck
May 02 02:31:36 <nyt-> dont use angstrom ;)
May 02 02:31:41 <nyt->  http://beagleboard.org/latest-images
May 02 02:31:44 <nyt-> grab the latest debian
May 02 02:31:59 <ausjke> sigh, ok
May 02 02:32:11 <nyt-> deb is currently the shipping/supported image
May 02 02:32:14 <nyt-> works way better
May 02 02:32:19 <ausjke> angstrom used to be great, what happended to the project now?
May 02 02:32:29 <ausjke> haven't checked it for a while, even the site is in trouble?
May 02 02:32:45 * nyt- shrugs
May 02 02:32:46 <ausjke> and BBB future version is moving to debian as well...is angstrom dying?
May 02 02:34:57 * dgriffi shrugs
May 02 02:35:23 <dgriffi> so, to install to an arbitrarily-sized SD card, do I bootstrap from the internal MMC?
May 02 02:35:55 <ausjke>  INFO: task systemd-tmpfile:2839 blocked for more than 60 seconds
May 02 02:36:04 <ausjke> yes systemd, never liked it...
May 02 02:43:10 <nyt-> dgriffi: you can just write the regular sd image to it
May 02 02:43:24 <nyt-> then you erase the partition for the rootfs
May 02 02:43:28 <nyt-> and recreate it with the same start
May 02 02:43:30 <nyt-> and the end being the end of disk
May 02 02:43:35 <nyt-> reboot, then run resize2fs
May 02 02:43:39 <nyt-> or
May 02 02:44:31 <nyt-> theres /opt/scripts/tools/grow_partition.sh
May 02 02:44:33 <nyt-> to do it for you
May 02 02:44:34 <nyt-> but it does the same
May 02 02:44:38 <nyt-> as i just described
May 02 02:45:36 <dgriffi> can I do this from a regular linux box?
May 02 02:47:01 <nyt-> there are sd card images, you just download the image, write it to the card with $writer_of_choice
May 02 02:47:04 <nyt-> if using linux, you can use dd
May 02 02:47:37 <nyt-> extract it, dd if=imagefile of=/dev/mmcblk0 bs=1M
May 02 02:47:42 <nyt-> or osmething similar
May 02 02:48:36 <dgriffi> the image I see http://beagleboard.org/latest-images/ is for a 2G card.  For a 4G or larger card, do I just use resize2fs after the dd?
May 02 02:48:53 <nyt-> you follow the instructions i just gave you ;)
May 02 02:48:55 <nyt-> or
May 02 02:48:59 <nyt-> just run  /opt/scripts/tools/grow_partition.sh
May 02 02:49:02 <nyt-> once you boot from it
May 02 02:50:38 <dgriffi> nice!
May 02 02:50:50 <pallanti> gud morning
May 02 02:51:41 <pallanti> can we use bbb for hardreal-time apps
May 02 02:52:40 <dgriffi> interesting... what would it take to get QNX ported?
May 02 02:53:43 <ausjke> under debian : cannot execute binary file
May 02 02:55:43 <ausjke> ls
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