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May 05 06:18:29 <KotH> .o0(what was that?)
May 05 06:47:21 <bob__> my beaglebone black is contected to network but cant get incomming traffic
May 05 07:03:02 <KotH> aparently he cannot either
May 05 13:24:46 <SUN_> hello
May 05 13:26:13 <Guest51288> does anybody know that if beaglebone supports ieee 1588(PTP)?
May 05 13:31:00 <LetoThe2nd> isn't that just $SOFTWARE?
May 05 13:31:51 <Guest51288> what software?
May 05 13:31:55 <av500> software is the hardest
May 05 13:32:03 <LetoThe2nd> hardestware.
May 05 13:32:28 <j6V6t1> is there anyway to enable the backlight for tps65217?
May 05 13:32:37 <LetoThe2nd> Guest51288: 1) check the AM335X TRM if there's hardware support, which i don't think it is.
May 05 13:33:10 <Guest51288> yes i have checked that am335x supports ieee1588
May 05 13:33:14 <LetoThe2nd> Guest51288: 2) as BBB usually runs a pretty much standard linux, you can of yourse run whatever software time/clocking thing you desire.
May 05 13:33:23 <Guest51288> but i don't know if PHY also supports
May 05 13:35:28 <LetoThe2nd> cpus have TRMs, PHYs probably have too...
May 05 13:35:40 <Guest51288> but ieee 1588 needs hardware assistant in MII,which is between MAC and PHY
May 05 13:37:43 <Guest51288> OK,  thank you LetoThe2nd    I will checked it further more  :)
May 05 13:38:17 <j6V6t1> I meant to say enable/disable backlight from command line for the tps65217. this was added as a built in from menuconfig.
May 05 14:04:33 <dsmith-work> Guest51288: I don't think the 1588 in the am335x is that useful from a HW view. IIRC there are no triggers or alarm in/outs, and no clock out.
May 05 14:04:51 <dsmith-work> Or maybe I'm thinking of that intel part.
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May 05 14:37:38 <dsmith-work> Guest51288: And I'm pretty sure there is no linux ptp suport yet.
May 05 15:20:57 <dsmith-work> Guest51288: I take that back!  Just had a look at 3.14.2, and it looks like there IS ptp support for AM33xx.  Cool. Still no HW triggers or alarms though.
May 05 15:57:35 <anujdeshpande> I was wondering what 	/* eMMC_RSTn */
May 05 15:57:36 <anujdeshpande> 			0x50 0x17	/* gpmc_a4.gpio1_20, OUTPUT | MODE7 | PULLUP */ meant. I understand that it’s the offset of the register and the value to be written to it. but I am not able to find it here https://github.com/bradfa/beaglebone_pinmux_tables/blob/master/beaglebone_pins_p8
May 05 15:58:42 <anujdeshpande> jkridner: ^^
May 05 16:23:31 <panoramix> hm, my order (placed in january at conrad in germany) just got delayed for the 4th time, this time for 30.07.2014, and they told me that the manufacturer gave them these new dates
May 05 16:23:43 <panoramix> are they telling the truth? :D
May 05 16:36:37 <thurgood> panoramix: possibly, but it's also possible that they overestimated how many they would be getting in each pass vs how many backorders they have
May 05 16:37:13 <panoramix> well i asked if they had any deliveries in between and they said they havent received anything since i first placed my order
May 05 16:37:37 <panoramix> i heard that they're not exactly the most trustworthy retailer here, hence my question here :D
May 05 16:38:01 <thurgood> possible, although I doubt they've received nothing if they're an authorized distributor
May 05 16:38:20 <LetoThe2nd> panoramix: watterott and tigal are usually considered trustworthy, but AFAIK they're also out of stock
May 05 16:38:23 <thurgood> demand is pretty high for the boards, and supply is pretty short
May 05 16:42:10 <panoramix> yeah so i've been reading here :)
May 05 16:42:42 <panoramix> is it possible to find out if circuitco has sent anything to conrad in the last 3-4 months?
May 05 16:42:57 <panoramix> if they're lying about it i'd like to know, and let others know too :D
May 05 16:44:18 <veremit> circuitco are pulling out of making the beagle .. so transfer of production could be .. well .. you can imagine
May 05 16:44:29 <veremit> demand has waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay outstripped supply
May 05 16:44:41 <veremit> so its just pay and wait I'm afraid
May 05 16:44:45 <veremit> they do come through, trust me :p
May 05 16:44:53 <veremit> or you can risk ebay :P
May 05 16:45:53 <prpplague> veremit: i think you have some bad information
May 05 16:46:05 <prpplague> veremit: circuitco is not stopping beagle production
May 05 16:47:17 <prpplague> panoramix: shipments are viewed by the beagleboard.org board and while the shipments to specific vendors are not made public the total shipments are
May 05 16:48:33 <panoramix> well i wouldnt need a disclosure of the exact dates and amounts, just if they got anything since january :D
May 05 16:48:47 <panoramix> veremit whose taking over production now?
May 05 16:48:55 <panoramix> who's*
May 05 16:49:12 <prpplague> panoramix: as i said, circuitco is NOT stopping production of beagleboard products
May 05 16:49:21 <veremit> prpplague .. well I wa gonna ask you about that :P~
May 05 16:49:27 <prpplague> panoramix: veremit has no clue what he is talking about
May 05 16:49:36 <panoramix> ok ok :D
May 05 16:49:42 * LetoThe2nd hands prpplague a cluebat
May 05 16:49:50 <veremit> lol
May 05 16:50:02 <veremit> there's a lot of hearsay about :p
May 05 16:50:11 <jkridner> circuitco is increasing production. http://beagleboard.org/blog/2014-04-13-dude-wheres-my-beaglebone-black/
May 05 16:50:20 <panoramix> maybe there's gonna be someone else also producing? :p
May 05 16:50:37 <veremit> from 700/week? finally?
May 05 16:50:42 <veremit> or was it 7000
May 05 16:51:34 <prpplague> veremit: we were doing about 2500 per week
May 05 16:51:50 <veremit> how the minnow going btw?
May 05 16:51:53 <veremit> max*
May 05 16:52:34 <veremit> wow extra eMMC .. ouch
May 05 16:52:38 <prpplague> veremit: if we hold to the current pattern, we will have more POs for it than beaglebone black
May 05 16:52:51 <jkridner> veremit: why not ask on #minnowboard?
May 05 16:53:08 <veremit> jkridner .. already in 10 chans on here lol
May 05 16:53:28 <veremit> prpplague .. got some awesome plans for production there too ;)
May 05 16:54:03 <prpplague> veremit: we don't have as many restrictions there as we do with beagleboard.org
May 05 16:54:32 <jkridner> prpplague: now you are the one spreading FUD
May 05 16:54:43 <veremit> great news on the post .. long time in coming, mind.
May 05 16:55:05 <prpplague> jkridner: no FUD, there, but as you know i can't discuss it in public
May 05 16:55:10 <jkridner> prpplague: I think you should align with your boss before spreading such info
May 05 16:55:13 <IanMu> Hello Everyone, anybody there?
May 05 16:55:28 <IanMu> hmm....sorry disturb you
May 05 16:55:33 <jkridner> well, when I talk to Clint, he doesn't have the same complaints as you
May 05 16:55:50 <IanMu> I would like to ask a question, its about Beaglebone control servo morto.  Recently, I check this information and pdf widely, but no one uses beaglebone black control pan/tilt(servo) to achieve streaming video by Web Browser.
May 05 16:55:56 <jkridner> if you want to talk about "restrictions" in public, then I think you already crossed that line.
May 05 16:56:02 <prpplague> jkridner: you really want to discuss this here?
May 05 16:56:17 <jkridner> prpplague: not really. didn't start to.
May 05 16:56:18 <panoramix> interesting blog post
May 05 16:56:24 <panoramix> so element14 is producing now as well
May 05 16:56:41 <prpplague> jkridner: yep, no problem
May 05 16:56:45 * veremit ducks and runs .. sorry guys
May 05 16:57:27 <IanMu> what's happening? is about my question?
May 05 16:57:36 <veremit> IanMu .. fire away
May 05 16:58:10 <veremit> jus came in at a bad time
May 05 16:58:24 <IanMu> oh.....sorry guys
May 05 16:59:09 <veremit> what do you want to know?
May 05 17:00:19 <IanMu> I just wanna ask a question about Beaglebone Black control servo, I have already checked a lot of website about how to control pan/tilt via Beaglebone black. These are not related with BBB, all of information about Raspberry or Andurino.....
May 05 17:00:29 <IanMu> Have some one can give me some idea or some reference to learn or read?
May 05 17:00:57 <myself> IanMu: "pwm" is the term you want
May 05 17:01:10 <myself> but I would say if you've never driven a servo before, learn on arduino first
May 05 17:02:02 <IanMu> Hmmm....yes, however, I faced the question is my final project is using BBB, I have no choice to choose another board.....it's so complex
May 05 17:02:09 <IanMu> no zuo no die......
May 05 17:02:40 <veremit> the BBB has pwm pins exposed, yes?
May 05 17:03:23 <panoramix> just dont try to bit-bang a pwm from userspace :D
May 05 17:03:27 <veremit> IanMu .. have you seen this .. http://blog.kaliatech.com/2013/11/pantilt-v4/
May 05 17:03:32 <veremit> *shudder* eww
May 05 17:04:24 <IanMu> yes, I have already looked this website.
May 05 17:05:05 <IanMu> @veremit, it has pwm pins, I remember it has 8 pins for pwm
May 05 17:06:56 <veremit> ian .. http://www.adafruit.com/blog/2014/02/18/beaglebone-black-and-pwm-controlling-a-servo-using-html5-javascript-and-node-js-beagleboneblack-txinstruments-beagleboardorg/
May 05 17:07:00 <veremit> grr long urls
May 05 17:07:32 <veremit> ok much better .. http://digital-drive.com/?p=136
May 05 17:07:35 * veremit blames google.
May 05 17:08:32 <veremit> obviously you'll need to 'join the dots' a bit ..
May 05 17:10:27 <IanMu> First of all, I am really thank you, @veremit , actually this is looked as well, the problem is about the last step (setting controler and view)
May 05 17:11:34 <IanMu> if you have spare time, you can look the middle of this step(5/5, setting controler and view), it about <input type="text"        class="slider span2" value=""        data-slider-min="2500"        data-slider-max="4800"        data-slider-step="100"        data-slider-value="2500"        data-slider-orientation="horizontal"        data-slider-selection="after"        data-slider-tooltip="hide"/>
May 05 17:12:18 <IanMu> I do not know where should I add this commands and the rest of commands also
May 05 17:14:57 <IanMu> btw, I also check a git website (https://github.com/richardghirst/PiBits/tree/master/ServoBlaster), I think it only uses on the Rapsberry.
May 05 17:16:47 <mpoirier> Good day all
May 05 17:17:33 <mpoirier> I'm trying to revive a beagleboard C4.  When turning on the PWR LED blinks and no output console.  Any ideas?
May 05 17:17:48 <dsmith-work> FWIW, my Element 14 built BBB has been workign fine.  Well, except for a too-big gob of glue by the SD card slot.
May 05 17:18:21 <mpoirier> with or without SD card (MLO), the result is the same.
May 05 17:18:51 <mpoirier> any help in understanding the blinking behaviour of the PWR LED would be appreciated.
May 05 17:28:21 <IanMu> Does anyone use Beaglebone black to control pan/tilt Bracket via Web Browser, it's similar like this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxmF578vKdI) or use anything to control it? Thank you guys
May 05 17:28:58 <bzyx> hsje\\
May 05 17:29:47 <IanMu> hmmm......hsje\\  what is this meaning?
May 05 17:30:12 <bzyx> sry, random letters. my mistake
May 05 17:30:46 <myself> IanMu: https://learn.adafruit.com/setting-up-io-python-library-on-beaglebone-black/pwm
May 05 17:30:52 <myself> second hit for "beaglebone pwm"
May 05 17:31:18 <jkridner> thanks myself
May 05 17:32:48 <IanMu> this one, I have already tried, however, I think that one just testing, it can not be a part of project, sorry, I might be a little bit implite....sorry again.....
May 05 17:33:23 <myself> if you can't figure out how to make that part of your project, I think you need to get some competent people on your project and piggyback on their ability
May 05 17:35:24 <IanMu> hmmm....yeah, I got it....Thank you @myself
May 05 17:52:50 <Andrew_ww> Looking for documentation. Have BeagleBone Black, installed Ubuntu (downloaded from BB website), want to mount BB's SD card to see it as mass storage via BBB's USB device port. Thx in any advance.
May 05 17:54:13 <tbr> you can't
May 05 17:54:13 <myself> I'm guessing http://www.linux-usb.org/gadget/file_storage.html
May 05 17:54:59 <tbr> mass storage mode requires block device access. And if you're running from the SD-card you can't access it from two devices on a block level
May 05 17:55:34 <Andrew_ww> tbr: ubuntu linux written into BBB's onboard flash
May 05 17:55:36 <myself> who said anything about two devices? just don't touch it while it's mounted
May 05 17:56:07 <tbr> if you're running form eMMC, then you can export the SD, yes. see what myself said
May 05 17:56:14 <bzyx> Andrew_ww: maybe this http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:MicroSD_As_Extra_Storage ?
May 05 17:56:21 <Andrew_ww> there is an automount in BBB's scripts, i want to replace basic mounted device to first partition on plugged SD card
May 05 17:56:36 <myself> then edit the script.. :)
May 05 17:56:55 <Andrew_ww> yeah, i am searching which script to edit, checking links too..
May 05 17:59:03 <thurgood> does it still use /etc/fstab ?
May 05 18:00:18 <Andrew_ww> thrugood: changing /etc/fstab have no affect mounted device on usb device side
May 05 18:00:46 <Andrew_ww> bzyx: given link only for Angstrom linux, Ubuntu have no any GUI
May 05 18:01:08 <bzyx> you can modify the sdcard on your host too :)
May 05 18:01:23 <bzyx> and when done plug it in the bbb
May 05 18:01:42 <thurgood> are you trying to use usb or sd?
May 05 18:01:56 <bzyx> but I don't know if that method works (never used it)
May 05 18:02:41 <Andrew_ww> bzyx, thurgood: have a BBB, it has got a microSD slot, there is a plugged SD card in it, it has got a partition formatted
May 05 18:03:01 <Andrew_ww> that is what i want to see via BBB's USB device port as mass storage
May 05 18:03:17 <thurgood> it's not going to appear under usb
May 05 18:04:10 <Andrew_ww> BBB have an automounted device (its from onboard eMMC), how BBB's OS know, what to mount?
May 05 18:04:16 <Andrew_ww> where are those scripts
May 05 18:04:53 <Andrew_ww> there isnt g_mass_Storage driver under Ubuntu
May 05 18:05:02 <Andrew_ww> i have only libcomposite and g_multi
May 05 18:05:45 <thurgood> is it showing up in the /dev directory at all?
May 05 18:06:23 <Andrew_ww> what i can se basically via usb device port (as LUN0 remote device) that is mounted under /boot/uboot
May 05 18:06:28 <veremit> g_multi might do one part
May 05 18:06:45 <Andrew_ww> when i change to mount /boot/uboot something else via fstab, it hasnt got any affect
May 05 18:06:58 <veremit> I had to rebuild kernel for g_ether and g-something else
May 05 18:07:09 <Andrew_ww> still mounts from eMMC, so it is configured somewhere else than /etc/fstab
May 05 18:07:09 <veremit> yea one symlink is empty
May 05 18:07:25 <veremit> there are two
May 05 18:07:33 <thurgood> what's your uEnv.txt look like?
May 05 18:07:43 <Andrew_ww> veremit: only solution is to rebuild ubuntu to change what it mounts as LUN0 ?
May 05 18:08:08 <veremit> should get gadget ethernet as 'usb0' in ifconfig
May 05 18:08:21 <veremit> I don't remember what comes up as external drive :/
May 05 18:08:34 <veremit> anything useful in 'dmesg' ?
May 05 18:08:52 <Andrew_ww> thurgood: if i copy / paste here that whole uEnv,txt moderators will bite my throat :)
May 05 18:09:00 <myself> pastebin!
May 05 18:09:02 <veremit> pastebin my friend :)
May 05 18:09:14 <veremit> uenv should be about 10 lines
May 05 18:09:23 <Andrew_ww> ubuntu@arm:/boot/uboot_old$ cat uEnv.txt kernel_file=zImage initrd_file=initrd.img initrd_high=0xffffffff fdt_high=0xffffffff  ##Video: [ls /sys/class/drm/] ##Docs: https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/Documentation/fb/modedb.txt ##Uncomment to override: #kms_force_mode=video=HDMI-A-1:1024x768@60e  ##Enable systemd #systemd=quiet init=/lib/systemd/systemd  ##BeagleBone Cape Overrides ##Note: On the Beagl
May 05 18:09:30 <Andrew_ww> hmm
May 05 18:09:37 <Andrew_ww> cannot copy paste whole text file
May 05 18:09:46 <Andrew_ww> line here isnt enough long
May 05 18:09:49 <veremit> pastebin it ;p http://pastebin.com
May 05 18:10:42 <veremit> drop the linky here :)
May 05 18:11:10 <Andrew_ww> have to signup there first, give me time for registration process, it seems not simple
May 05 18:11:21 <veremit> no no no
May 05 18:11:52 <veremit> jus paste the file in the window that pops up .. hit 'submit' .. paste thelinky here :D
May 05 18:12:05 <veremit> simples .. no registrtion nothin
May 05 18:12:16 <veremit> (add your own vowels!) lol
May 05 18:13:15 <Andrew_ww> http://pastebin.com/RK3HRKwN
May 05 18:13:19 <Andrew_ww> i hope it works
May 05 18:13:42 <veremit> perfect
May 05 18:15:24 <Andrew_ww> (already registered via FB, doesnt matter, i will delete that FB app later to not flood my timeline xd)
May 05 18:28:10 <ds2> if a Beagle could talk, what would it say?
May 05 18:29:40 <ds2> j #sigrok
May 05 18:29:46 <ds2> hmmm?
May 05 18:29:51 <ds2> Abhishek_: what's the issue?
May 05 18:34:17 <Andrew_ww> Beagle can talk, it has got audio, just type cat zImage /dev/audio .. it tells you its opinion about things :)
May 05 18:40:38 <Andrew_ww> BBB Ubuntu image, found something in dmesg: "[   19.725040]  lun0: LUN: removable file: /dev/mmcblk1p1" how to find driver what said that?
May 05 18:41:28 <Andrew_ww> wanna change that mmcblk1p1 to mmcblk0p1 there
May 05 18:42:31 <veremit> usually your uEnv ...
May 05 18:42:48 <veremit> depends whether its tried eMMC/failed or uSD/failed
May 05 18:43:04 <Andrew_ww> not found anything in uEnv points out for that :(
May 05 18:43:21 <veremit> yea thats why I wondered if it was failing to boot or something
May 05 18:43:31 <veremit> or there's some strange driver option somewhere
May 05 18:44:56 <Andrew_ww> nope, it boots up normally, and works as intended, my only problem: wanna change something in depths
May 05 18:45:54 <Andrew_ww> now i am thinking about throwing a parser on OS image to find any character strings about that "/dev/mmcblk1p1" - any better idea? :)
May 05 23:11:00 <k-man> if you should totally stuff up the eMMC, can you always boot from the SD card?
May 05 23:27:30 <nyt-> yea
May 06 02:16:34 <sirjorj> Where do I find a table of all the pins on the BeagleBone Black processor and their default settings?  Mainly, for the GPOI pins, I am interested in if they default to in, out, high, low, etc...
May 06 02:17:36 <veremit> look at the AM3559 Processor Reference Manual on TI's site
May 06 02:18:00 <veremit> sorry, 3359**
May 06 02:19:53 <sirjorj> I have the AM335x Technical Reference Manual in front of me (spruh73j.pdf).  I have searched and skimmed through it multiple times and not found any diagram or table that lists the default pin configurations.  Do I have the wrong doc?
May 06 02:20:04 <veremit> yes
May 06 02:20:12 <veremit> should be x00 pages ?
May 06 02:20:24 <sirjorj> oh.  This is 4,728 pages..
May 06 02:20:29 <veremit> ah could be lol
May 06 02:20:46 <veremit> should be in there :)
May 06 02:22:42 <veremit> seems I have 3900 pages lef tot read .. ;)
May 06 02:22:50 <sirjorj> :)
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