**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat May 10 03:00:00 2014
May 10 03:11:11 <nyt-> sorry got distracted
May 10 03:11:13 <nyt-> this is good
May 10 03:11:27 <nyt-> http://www.adafruit.com/products/572
May 10 03:11:28 <nyt-> and
May 10 03:11:38 <nyt-> http://www.adafruit.com/products/706
May 10 03:29:47 <vagrantc> anyone know what kernel config options are needed to support the BBB with LCD7 cape?
May 10 03:30:45 <veremit> I thought there was a device-tree file for it ..
May 10 03:30:54 <veremit> or is that just the 3/4
May 10 03:31:31 <veremit> or possibly I'm thinking of a cape config ..
May 10 03:32:07 <vagrantc> well, you oth need the drivers enabled in the kernel as well as the device-tree bits...
May 10 03:32:32 <nyt-> none
May 10 03:32:33 <nyt-> it just works
May 10 03:32:37 <nyt-> with the 4d ones anyway
May 10 03:32:44 <nyt-> touch screen and all
May 10 03:32:47 <nyt-> at least with latest debian images
May 10 03:35:15 <vagrantc> yes, i know that.
May 10 03:35:42 <vagrantc> but when building a custom kernel, what's the config option
May 10 03:36:50 <veremit> probably in some strange menu ..
May 10 03:37:15 <veremit> is there a kernel config for the debian images?
May 10 03:37:24 <veremit> rcn enables everything .. almost .. lol
May 10 03:37:42 <vagrantc> well, i've got the whole config used for the debian images, but there are LOTS of options to enable. I'd rather not take a shotgun approach.
May 10 03:53:47 <nyt-> go with rnc's config as a base
May 10 03:53:49 <nyt-> it works
May 10 05:19:22 <Rushi_> hello
May 10 05:19:41 <Rushi_> power ic can be damaged or not?
May 10 05:22:04 <dnivra> hello everyone! I'm trying to boot a beagleboard using an SD card and when I connect to a monitor using an HDMI to VGA converter, there is no display output. I copied the Angstrom TI GNOME 2012 image using image writer as describe in http://beagleboard.org/Getting%20Started#update so I guess that's right. Is it safe to assume the board might be faulty?
May 10 05:33:48 <nyt-> you cant connect hdmi to vga
May 10 05:33:54 <nyt-> hdmi to dvi ok
May 10 05:33:56 <nyt-> hdmi to vga no
May 10 05:38:32 <dnivra> nyt-: Oh I didn't know that! Is it something specific to the beagle boards?
May 10 05:38:59 <veremit> it'd have to regenerate the vga signals from the hdmi digital
May 10 05:39:03 <dnivra> I've used the converter to connect a Raspberry Pi before so I assumed it would work(probably shouldn't have done so).
May 10 05:39:25 <veremit> go buy a decent monitor
May 10 05:39:29 <veremit> and a network switch
May 10 05:39:30 <veremit> :)
May 10 05:40:32 <dnivra> (stduent here) wish I could afford one :)
May 10 05:41:03 <dnivra> I guess I'll look for an HDMI to DVI converter.
May 10 05:41:58 <dnivra> So even using an HDMI to VGA converter with a beaglebone black wouldn't work I suppose?
May 10 05:42:32 <veremit> no
May 10 05:42:39 <veremit> vga - analogye
May 10 05:42:45 <veremit> hdmi - digital
May 10 05:42:55 <veremit> analogue*
May 10 05:43:01 <dnivra> yup got it :).
May 10 05:43:28 <dnivra> thanks veremit and nyt-!
May 10 05:44:02 <veremit> the beagle needs to detect the display its connected to .. which is typically done over a specific protocol as part of the hdmi
May 10 05:44:42 <dnivra> I see and probably the HDMI to VGA converter I'm using doesn't do that translation properly.
May 10 05:44:58 <veremit> I think its entierly different for vga
May 10 05:45:28 <veremit> if indeed its present
May 10 05:48:29 <dnivra> Apparently the conveter shown here works: http://papermint-designs.com/community/node/276.
May 10 05:48:41 <veremit> go for it then
May 10 05:50:52 <dnivra> Yeah I'll check it out. Thanks again veremit!
May 10 05:51:30 <veremit> just remember everything won't be a complete walk in the park .. but an interesting and rewarding learning experience lol
May 10 05:53:01 <dnivra> Yeah - I've not worked on hardware a lot so it's going to be extra interesting I suppose :).
May 10 06:14:35 <veremit> ok time for sleep .. niters.
May 10 06:16:17 <veremit> ok time for sleep .. niters.
May 10 09:02:04 <nlminhtl|home> hi guys, when I try to do echo bone_pwm_P9_14 > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots all is okay, but if I try to somethin with a pin from P8 like echo bone_pwm_P8_14 > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots beaglebone will restart itself, what's wrong?
May 10 09:02:38 <nlminhtl|home> Angstrom is on the board
May 10 11:57:50 <mus_know> hello , i cannot register my project via beagleboard.org, gives me login then error finding page
May 10 11:59:34 <mus_know> hello
May 10 12:38:33 <Rapter> Hello
May 10 13:41:15 <tverrbjelke> hei - is this the proper channel for "howto use beagle bone black to  control a servo motor example"? I am looking int a nice guide into bbb.
May 10 13:41:53 <tverrbjelke> (using c++)
May 10 18:48:02 <spce> HI
May 10 18:48:32 <spce> Wondering if there is a good tutorial that goes with this board
May 10 18:49:37 <agmlego> Tutorial to do what with it?
May 10 18:50:32 <veremit> so many choices.
May 10 18:53:52 <rocky|quadcopter> I'm cross compiling the beaglebone kernel.  Both my host and target is Debian.  I only see gcc eabi on my host, but the beagle is using gcc eabihf.  Is this going to be a problem?
May 10 18:54:25 <veremit> probably .. one is hardware floating-point, the other software
May 10 18:54:28 <veremit> most likely
May 10 18:55:27 <rocky|quadcopter> That's what I thought.  Am I going to need to build gcc eabihf from source then?  I haven't had any luck finding a precompiled package.
May 10 18:55:44 <agmlego> Probably.
May 10 18:56:41 <rocky|quadcopter> blarg.  ok then
May 10 19:02:58 <veremit> rocky|quadcopter ... the linaro toolchain is known to be quite reliable
May 10 19:03:06 <veremit> if you use gentoo, you can build your own
May 10 19:03:21 <veremit> using crosstool
May 10 19:03:57 <rocky|quadcopter> I'm actually on arch right now.  I was going to build it on my debian vps because it had cross compiling tools readily available, but they aren't the right abi
May 10 19:07:40 <veremit> depends on the vps .. don't think anyone's created a bespoke beagle one yet :)
May 10 19:11:13 <rocky|quadcopter> it may be insane, but I'm going to go ahead and try building the kernel on an eabi compiler.
May 10 19:11:28 <veremit> its gonna hurt ;p
May 10 19:11:31 <veremit> and probably not work :D
May 10 19:12:41 <veremit> https://launchpad.net/linaro-toolchain-binaries/trunk/2013.10/+download/gcc-linaro-arm-linux-gnueabihf-4.8-2013.10_runtime.tar.bz2
May 10 19:12:49 <veremit> you know you want to :P
May 10 19:13:26 <rocky|quadcopter> yeah, that'll be easier.  does it matter that the debian on beaglebone doesn't use linaro?  At least it doesn't appear to use it.
May 10 19:13:56 <veremit> doesn't matter .. its binaries .. so you just unzip them .. and make sure you set path or prefix your CC
May 10 19:14:11 <rocky|quadcopter> or that it's on a different gcc versions?
May 10 19:14:28 <veremit> uhm yeah .. not sure what the beagle distro -does- use .. but I've compiled a stack of kernels with linaro no probs
May 10 19:14:41 <veremit> I'd be surprised if it wasn't .. given RCN's involvement
May 10 19:15:00 <rocky|quadcopter> I'll give it a shot then.  Thanks veremit!
May 10 19:15:17 <veremit> np
May 10 19:15:20 <veremit> good luck!
May 10 19:15:51 <rocky|quadcopter> thanks.  I'm generating setup instructions for my quadcopter senior design project.
May 10 19:16:05 <rocky|quadcopter> this will definitely be less painful for the enduser than compiling their own gcc
May 10 19:17:33 <rocky|quadcopter> wait now, this is just kernel modules...
May 10 19:18:35 <veremit> sorry possibly wrong link
May 10 19:18:40 <veremit> there's a bloody stack on the linaro page
May 10 19:18:52 <veremit> I just wget <Blah> but I don't have that system in front of me.
May 10 19:19:44 <rocky|quadcopter> I think I found them
May 10 19:20:38 <Guest10260> Hello - can someone explain me how to run xenomai kernel on bbb? And if i can use the internal storage? Cant find a good docu :(
May 10 19:21:25 <rocky|quadcopter> Guest10260: I'm actually setting up xenomai as we speak.
May 10 19:21:32 <rocky|quadcopter> good timing!
May 10 19:21:43 <Guest10260> Great =)
May 10 19:21:44 <rocky|quadcopter> here's the guide I'm following: http://brunosmartins.info/xenomai-on-the-beaglebone-black-in-14-easy-steps/
May 10 19:21:56 <rocky|quadcopter> so far it's been smooth, besides getting the right compiler.
May 10 19:22:14 <Guest10260> Yeah this i found too but got failure by compile the kernel
May 10 19:22:22 <rocky|quadcopter> at what stage?
May 10 19:22:50 <Guest10260> Step 9
May 10 19:23:23 <rocky|quadcopter> let me be more specific.  What was the message when it failed?  If it's long, use pastiebin
May 10 19:23:46 <Guest10260> Wait have to start linux
May 10 19:27:30 <Guest10260> I'll start from step 1 again
May 10 19:30:10 <veremit> fyi .. if you wanna build a kernel for ya beagle .. highly recommend the instructions at http://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black
May 10 19:31:03 <veremit> if you're really lucky .. the author visits here occasionally :)
May 10 20:07:50 <rocky|quadcopter> veremit: I don't think this is linaro specific, but even when I go to the bin directory, run ./arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc, bash reports that the file doesn't exist.  Ideas?
May 10 20:08:02 <rocky|quadcopter> It clearly exists.
May 10 20:08:09 <veremit> you'll need to set a make variable
May 10 20:08:22 <rocky|quadcopter> to even be able to run it alone on the command line?
May 10 20:08:32 <veremit> something like CC=<your-path-to-bin>prefix-eabi-blah-blah- make
May 10 20:08:40 <veremit> I think so
May 10 20:09:15 <veremit> rocky .. take a look at .. http://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black
May 10 20:09:36 <veremit> you don't need the uboot bits obviously
May 10 20:09:46 <veremit> and dont worry so much about RN's patches ..
May 10 20:10:13 <rocky|quadcopter> I am looking at it.  I followed the directions for downloading and extracting linaro
May 10 20:10:21 <rocky|quadcopter> I set CC
May 10 20:10:50 <rocky|quadcopter> but when I run their test it fails.  When I cd to its bin directory, and try running it their, it still fails.
May 10 20:11:02 <rocky|quadcopter> bash claims the files doesn't exist.  I'm not sure why it can't see it.
May 10 20:11:06 <veremit> ${CC}gcc --version ?
May 10 20:11:11 <nyt-> sounds like you need ia32 support or its or a dif architecture
May 10 20:11:19 <nyt-> last or should read for
May 10 20:11:24 <veremit> ah .. have you got ia32-libs ?
May 10 20:12:39 <rocky|quadcopter> no, I don't... I just tried installing them, and apt is saying it can't meet some dependencies.  I can take care of this myself (probably)
May 10 20:12:59 <nyt-> what dist?
May 10 20:13:06 <nyt-> sounds broke
May 10 20:13:19 <rocky|quadcopter> it's debian, but I'm still on the vps.  It doesn't use the main debian repos.
May 10 20:13:36 <veremit> fun :)
May 10 20:13:41 <rocky|quadcopter> I know, right?
May 10 20:13:50 <rocky|quadcopter> maybe I should just build it on my laptop.  Arch is nice.
May 10 20:14:09 <veremit> probably easier :)
May 10 20:14:14 <rocky|quadcopter> yeah
May 10 20:16:28 <rocky|quadcopter> isn't ia32 itanium?
May 10 20:16:56 <veremit> its 32bit libs for 64 bit systems.. the toolchain is only 32bit
May 10 20:17:03 <veremit> dunno why there isn't a 64bit version yet
May 10 20:17:27 <rocky|quadcopter> but I'm under the impression that ia is for itanium.  That is an entirely separate architecture from x86
May 10 20:17:46 <veremit> think thats a mis-noma lol
May 10 20:17:46 <nyt-> its not
May 10 20:18:46 <rocky|quadcopter> well in any case, it is working on arch
May 10 20:19:26 <nyt-> ia = intel architecture
May 10 20:21:06 <nyt-> dunno where you got itanium from =]
May 10 20:21:09 <rocky|quadcopter> yay wikipedia
May 10 20:21:15 <rocky|quadcopter> Yeah, idk.
May 10 20:21:30 <rocky|quadcopter> what's the prefix for itanium then?
May 10 20:21:36 <nyt-> slow typing atm, on phone using android irc lol
May 10 20:21:43 <nyt-> itanium oh god uhm
May 10 20:21:51 <rocky|quadcopter> it's ok. And thanks for all the help guys
May 10 20:22:06 <nyt-> ia-64
May 10 20:22:07 <nyt-> lol
May 10 20:22:14 <rocky|quadcopter> well there's the confusion!
May 10 20:22:17 <nyt-> itanium architectur ehaha
May 10 20:22:27 <rocky|quadcopter> I'm gonna be afk for a bit.
May 10 20:22:29 <vagrantc> not to be confused with x86_64
May 10 20:22:56 <nyt-> itanium flopped
May 10 20:31:53 <veremit> I think even I got that lol ..
May 10 20:32:43 <rocky|quadcopter> yay patching finished.  That always takes awhile
May 10 20:37:23 <rocky|quadcopter> and off goes the compilation!
May 10 20:51:04 <veremit> rocky .. know any good xyz-linux -> arch overview .. wanna get starte with arch .. been using gentoo, but the whole compiling thing every week just doesn't happen
May 10 20:51:17 <veremit> I see network interfaces are called something odd already :(
May 10 20:51:39 <veremit> I bet init system is different
May 10 20:51:43 <rocky|quadcopter> veremit: like wlan0 becoming something like wlp3s0?
May 10 20:51:48 <rocky|quadcopter> arch uses systemd
May 10 20:51:48 <veremit> yea
May 10 20:52:05 <veremit> *groan* guess I might have to just take the plunge
May 10 20:52:13 <rocky|quadcopter> the interface thing is so that they are stable.  You might have, for example, eth0 become eth1 on different boots
May 10 20:52:22 <veremit> oh its terrible
May 10 20:52:30 <veremit> udev should fix that though .. theoretically
May 10 20:52:41 <rocky|quadcopter> this way if you have firewall settings bound to a particular interface, you can count on it staying the same.
May 10 20:52:43 <rocky|quadcopter> what's terrible?
May 10 20:53:07 <veremit> having a build eg. on a stick .. plugging it into a system .. eth5 shows up -sigh-
May 10 20:53:26 <veremit> thats udev rules .. delete them and its eth0 :D
May 10 20:53:33 <rocky|quadcopter> heh
May 10 20:53:37 <rocky|quadcopter> anyway
May 10 20:53:47 <rocky|quadcopter> the arch wiki is very good.
May 10 20:53:58 <veremit> yeah I've read a lof of it for other reasons
May 10 20:54:20 <rocky|quadcopter> it seems like almost every package has a page, and most have very good docs for at least basic usage
May 10 20:54:24 <rocky|quadcopter> and configuration
May 10 20:56:05 <veremit> hmm I know what to do .. baptism of fire .. new work pc ..will be arch .. eek :D
May 10 20:56:17 <rocky|quadcopter> you'll be fine :)
May 10 20:56:24 <veremit> Ill do one last build of gentoo
May 10 20:56:47 <veremit> been using my debian box .. not too bad .. xfce so much slicker than kde lol
May 10 20:56:57 <veremit> but I miss a few kde features
May 10 20:56:58 <rocky|quadcopter> I use xmonad personally
May 10 20:57:22 <rocky|quadcopter> there you are zImage.
May 10 20:57:48 <veremit> you ok with a zimage? I found how to make it a uimage once
May 10 20:58:01 <rocky|quadcopter> you just say make uImage.  It's no secret
May 10 20:58:19 <veremit> yeah lol but you need the package which makes the U bit :p
May 10 20:58:28 <rocky|quadcopter> ?
May 10 20:58:31 <rocky|quadcopter> oh
May 10 20:58:32 <rocky|quadcopter> right
May 10 20:58:34 <veremit> :)
May 10 20:58:36 <veremit> yup
May 10 20:58:38 <rocky|quadcopter> that's uboot isn't it?
May 10 20:58:42 <rocky|quadcopter> or something else
May 10 20:58:42 <veremit> think so
May 10 20:58:46 <veremit> not done it for a while
May 10 20:58:49 <rocky|quadcopter> meh
May 10 20:58:52 <rocky|quadcopter> zImage will work fine
May 10 20:58:53 <veremit> zImage ftw
May 10 20:59:02 <veremit> as long as ua uboot supports it :)
May 10 20:59:03 <rocky|quadcopter> I don't really care either way as long as it works
May 10 20:59:08 <veremit> yup
May 10 20:59:16 <rocky|quadcopter> ok, here we go!
May 10 20:59:26 <rocky|quadcopter> GONNA INSTALL THE #(*$# OUT OF THIS KERNEL!
May 10 21:00:35 <rocky|quadcopter> why is the debian installation so big.....
May 10 21:00:58 <rocky|quadcopter> It'd be nice to have have an image without the gui
May 10 21:01:08 <rocky|quadcopter> I've only over used it once.  It was way to slow.  Terminals ftw
May 10 21:01:10 <veremit> yeah .. rcn's minimal is fine :)
May 10 21:01:21 <veremit> eewiki.net .. again ;)
May 10 21:01:25 <veremit> look for rootfs section
May 10 21:01:29 <veremit> all tar'd ready to go :D
May 10 21:01:50 <rocky|quadcopter> I'd like to avoid using a non-standard debian installation though
May 10 21:02:29 <rocky|quadcopter> I guess it's already nonstandard with the xenomai built in, but at least it's still working off the same base as the offical installation
May 10 21:02:59 <rocky|quadcopter> where do the kernel modules install to?
May 10 21:04:03 <rocky|quadcopter> meh
May 10 21:06:07 * rocky|quadcopter is starting to think he should just provide an image and instructions for flashing it.
May 10 21:08:40 <pjustice> /lib/modules, generally
May 10 21:09:13 <rocky|quadcopter> I mispoke.  Where do they compile to.  But I just mounted my target over sshfs and used make to install them instead
May 10 21:09:21 <pjustice> if you do standard debian install, uncheck everything but whatever it calls base, plus maybe "ssh server"
May 10 21:09:24 <rocky|quadcopter> rather than manually figuring it out
May 10 21:10:41 <rocky|quadcopter> pjustice: I'll take a look
May 10 21:11:04 <veremit> oh you'll need to find . -name "*.ko"
May 10 21:11:08 <veremit> they're in every driver folder
May 10 21:11:15 <rocky|quadcopter> I just used the make
May 10 21:11:17 <rocky|quadcopter> it did it for me.
May 10 21:11:18 <veremit> yup
May 10 21:11:21 <veremit> easy enough
May 10 21:11:25 <veremit> make modules_install :)
May 10 21:11:31 <rocky|quadcopter> indeed sir
May 10 21:12:02 <rocky|quadcopter> there is only 20MB of space left on the bone.
May 10 21:12:15 <rocky|quadcopter> gonna go uninstall stuff
May 10 21:13:11 <veremit> lol yeah you don't wanna build/etc all the other crap on there
May 10 21:13:26 <veremit> just the minimal stuff you NEED on the beagle itself :p
May 10 21:13:53 <rocky|quadcopter> pjustice: I tried removing the group x11, but for some reason it wanted to take node with it
May 10 21:14:11 <nyt-> lol dont waste your time
May 10 21:14:16 <nyt-> with arch
May 10 21:14:16 <nyt-> rofl
May 10 21:14:24 <rocky|quadcopter> >.>
May 10 21:14:25 <nyt-> just use buntu and deb and be happy everything works
May 10 21:14:48 <veremit> just usng arch to cross-compile .. leave the bloke alone :P~
May 10 21:14:55 <veremit> rofl . chanserv shutting down
May 10 21:15:05 <pjustice> rocky|quadcopter, trying to remove groups after the fact is usually like that
May 10 21:15:30 <nyt-> buntu has good xcompile
May 10 21:15:32 <nyt-> better than deb
May 10 21:15:38 <rocky|quadcopter> I've tried debian, ubuntu, opensuse, fedora, mint, and surely many others.  I'm happiest on arch.
May 10 21:16:28 <nyt-> i have to run thousands of servers, anything other than ubuntu or debian makes me want to dropkick a puppy
May 10 21:16:47 <rocky|quadcopter> I can understand that on a server.
May 10 21:16:53 <rocky|quadcopter> But for a PC, arch does fine.
May 10 21:17:00 <nyt-> ahhh
May 10 21:17:01 <nyt-> see
May 10 21:17:04 <nyt-> i <3 linux and all
May 10 21:17:06 <nyt-> but wont run it on thed esktop
May 10 21:17:23 <nyt-> but right now i have like 6 terminals open
May 10 21:17:29 <pjustice> ubuntu and debian are doing their best to make me want to dropkick puppies on servers too, these days, but that's beside the point
May 10 21:17:40 <nyt-> pjustice: upstart ;)
May 10 21:17:45 <nyt-> haha why for you?
May 10 21:17:47 <pjustice> this is why we can't have nice things
May 10 21:18:00 <nyt-> i had some fun last night on a buntu box with apparmor disabled
May 10 21:18:07 <nyt-> apparently mysql start loads apparmor profile
May 10 21:18:07 <pjustice> dependency hell, desktop crazy, replcaing perfectly functional stuff like init
May 10 21:18:13 <nyt-> without apparmor, script fails, fails to start
May 10 21:18:40 <pjustice> and don't get me started about the client side font *(#%^&*()
May 10 21:18:55 <nyt-> lol
May 10 21:18:57 <nyt-> fonts
May 10 21:19:08 <pjustice> though that's not an issue on our servers
May 10 21:19:17 <rocky|quadcopter> Let's see if it'll boot on xenomai!
May 10 21:20:58 <nyt-> so someone actually used my library to build something finally
May 10 21:21:04 <rocky|quadcopter> wooooooo
May 10 21:21:11 <rocky|quadcopter> which library?
May 10 21:21:18 <nyt-> working pipboy with rad detection, gps, music playing, touch screen, etc
May 10 21:21:24 <nyt-> http://github.com/notnyt/beaglebone
May 10 21:22:09 <rocky|quadcopter> it booted!
May 10 21:22:30 <rocky|quadcopter> *sigh of relief*
May 10 21:27:01 <rocky|quadcopter> now I just need to build the userspace stuff
May 10 21:29:42 <rocky|quadcopter> ls
May 10 21:29:47 <veremit> you find ubuntu is secure enough for a server?
May 10 21:29:56 <veremit> depends on ya server I gues .. I contemplated it for a while
May 10 21:30:05 <veremit> company VPS is CentOS though
May 10 21:30:10 <rocky|quadcopter> I'm using debian minimal for my server right now
May 10 21:30:11 <veremit> wb Chanserv!
May 10 21:31:19 <rocky|quadcopter> I like it because it is minimalistic.  I know all the processes and why they are running.
May 10 21:32:34 <rocky|quadcopter> woo
May 10 21:32:36 <rocky|quadcopter> xenomai is working!
May 10 21:32:47 <rocky|quadcopter> Guest10260:
May 10 21:33:08 <veremit> cool .. grats .. what extras did you need, out of interest?
May 10 21:33:10 <veremit> to the kernel?
May 10 21:33:28 <rocky|quadcopter> I'm not sure what you mean.  I just needed xenomai
May 10 21:33:33 <rocky|quadcopter> for the quadcopter
May 10 21:36:20 <nyt-> i run custom stuff for systems that need real security
May 10 21:36:24 <nyt-> grsec with rbac
May 10 21:36:34 <nyt-> i have code in grsec lol
May 10 21:44:49 <rocky|quadcopter> yeah, just removing the x11 group took out way more than it needed to.
May 10 21:44:58 <rocky|quadcopter> seriously, how is the PRU involved with x11.
May 10 21:46:45 <rocky|quadcopter> so guess who is going to be reinstalling debian!
May 10 21:46:55 <rocky|quadcopter> I might take you up on that advice veremit
May 10 21:48:05 <rocky|quadcopter> does rcn's minimal completely minimal?  Or does it include support for beaglebone features like PRU
May 10 21:48:22 <veremit> dunno actually
May 10 21:48:27 <veremit> I should imagine so
May 10 21:48:37 <veremit> could try the comments see if anyone has posted
May 10 21:48:47 <veremit> if not .. can't be difficult to reinstate
May 10 21:49:22 <rocky|quadcopter> shouldn't be.  My kernel I built has it, so it yeah, it shouldn't be bad
May 10 21:52:13 <rocky|quadcopter> It doesn't look like it actually removed the PRU stuff.  Weird.
May 10 21:52:38 <rocky|quadcopter> heh, but openssl is a heartbleed vulnerable one
May 10 21:53:50 <rocky|quadcopter> let's see if I can get the quadcopter to fly on this
May 10 21:54:12 <rocky|quadcopter> or at least see if the PRU is working. If it is, then everything else should fall into place.
May 10 21:54:23 <veremit> kewl
May 10 21:54:41 <veremit> ok I badly nee d to stretch .. this is a FAR from optimal configuration for long0term use of my laptop lol
May 10 22:08:40 <rocky|quadcopter> oh.  right.  I need to disable the hdmi cape
May 10 22:09:18 <toxmeister> hiya, could someone please advice on what's currently the best source to download latest Angstrom images for orig beaglebone? Primary (http://downloads.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beaglebone) repeatedly drops connection after ~50%, S3 mirror full of broken links, Beagleboard mirror itself a 404... what gives?
May 10 22:12:57 <veremit> wouldn't go for angstrom anymore toxmeister .. debian is the new build
May 10 22:13:07 <veremit> although .. original beagle?
May 10 22:13:33 <veremit> might be caught out there
May 10 22:14:16 <toxmeister> veremit: thx, has it got cloud9 pre-installed too? (i know it's easy to install, but this isn't for me...)
May 10 22:14:39 <veremit> no idea I'm afraid
May 10 22:14:52 <toxmeister> why would debian not work on orig BB?
May 10 22:15:10 <veremit> absolutely no reason .. that I can think of .. processor the same :)
May 10 22:15:52 <toxmeister> will give that a go... merci!
May 10 22:16:48 <veremit> be warned .. I have beenknown to be wrong .. lol :D
May 10 22:17:18 <veremit> without Mr Kridner .. I don' tknow what he Official Beagle line is .. lol
May 10 22:19:34 * veremit snickers and heads to kitchen to make coffee
May 10 22:23:00 <rocky|quadcopter> yay, the pru is working!
May 10 22:23:07 <rocky|quadcopter> not on rcn's build, I haven't tried that yet
May 10 22:25:43 <rocky|quadcopter> veremit: does rcn have stuff for booting off of emmc?
May 10 22:25:51 <veremit> as in?
May 10 22:26:14 <veremit> he's got a script at the bottom for copying uSD to eMMC .. since you install to uSD in the first place
May 10 22:26:14 <rocky|quadcopter> installing the system to emmc instead of the sd card.  I'm not entirely sure what to do differently
May 10 22:26:23 <rocky|quadcopter> oh.  derp.
May 10 22:26:25 <veremit> :)
May 10 22:26:55 <rocky|quadcopter> I judged it too quickly.  I thought it was just for mounting the emmc
May 10 22:26:59 <veremit> so .. I boot up, ssh in .. scp the script .. run it
May 10 22:27:15 <veremit> Aaaaaand wait :D
May 10 22:27:45 <veremit> its not too bad .. I think he lights all the LEDs at the end as before
May 10 22:27:54 <rocky|quadcopter> ok
May 10 22:27:57 <veremit> you just gotta remember to power cycle it .. but there's a message about that
May 10 22:29:12 <rocky|quadcopter> Does he have prebuilt images?
May 10 22:29:23 <veremit> not that I know of ..
May 10 22:29:47 <veremit> but I was under the impression he was involved in the debian transition
May 10 22:31:28 <rocky|quadcopter> he does
May 10 22:31:34 <rocky|quadcopter> at least it appears so
May 10 22:34:16 <rocky|quadcopter> veremit: https://rcn-ee.net/deb/rootfs/wheezy/
May 10 22:34:28 <veremit> prob no kernel?
May 10 22:34:31 <rocky|quadcopter> they contain scripts for setting up an sd card
May 10 22:34:35 <veremit> ah
May 10 22:34:45 <veremit> I've never really dug around
May 10 22:34:47 <veremit> or tested any
May 10 22:34:55 <veremit> when I build myself I know what I'm using :)
May 10 22:34:57 <rocky|quadcopter> well I'm about to test it
May 10 22:35:13 <veremit> although I wish he hadn't tagged every driver under the sun + more ... but I heard his argument out lol
May 10 22:35:15 <rocky|quadcopter> I want to avoid that as much as possible to keep the guide simple
May 10 22:35:25 <veremit> sure
May 10 22:37:29 <rocky|quadcopter> why is it still syncing.  There is no dirty mem
May 10 22:38:52 <rocky|quadcopter> let's see if it boots!
May 10 22:42:18 <rocky|quadcopter> looks like it did, though it appears to be truly minimal.  No ssh yet
May 10 22:42:28 <rocky|quadcopter> no uio_pruss
May 10 22:42:51 <rocky|quadcopter> not even anything for ethernet!
May 10 22:42:54 <rocky|quadcopter> wow
May 10 22:43:01 <rocky|quadcopter> a bit too minimal if you ask me
May 10 22:43:27 <rocky|quadcopter> though I might just need to rtfm
May 10 22:47:14 <veremit> lol
May 10 22:47:22 <veremit> pruss probably not there .. ethernet and ssh are
May 10 22:47:27 <veremit> in the images I've used
May 10 22:48:13 <rocky|quadcopter> not in this one :/
May 10 22:48:20 <rocky|quadcopter> bleh
May 10 22:48:38 <rocky|quadcopter> I'm gonna go fly the damn thing
May 10 22:48:48 <veremit> hehehe
May 10 22:48:55 <veremit> sure you'll figure it :D
May 10 22:49:36 <rocky|quadcopter> nope, one of my teammates removed the hardware attatching the bone to the quad.
May 10 22:49:46 <rocky|quadcopter> it is not apparent where he put it
May 10 22:50:01 <veremit> ooops
May 10 22:52:30 <rocky|quadcopter> veremit: pm?
May 10 22:52:35 <veremit> sure
May 11 01:17:30 <spce> Hi
May 11 02:14:13 <Josh> good evening
May 11 02:15:48 <Guest66805> i have a beagleboard rev c4 and i'm unable to get the host usb port to work
May 11 02:15:54 <Guest66805> any suggestions?
May 11 02:16:21 <Guest66805> does anyone have a working rev c4 board?
May 11 02:20:57 <veremit> definitely the host port .. wiht a client device?
May 11 02:21:03 <veremit> not the otg port :p
May 11 02:23:33 <Guest66805> correct. i've tried connecting keyboard, mouse, wifi adapter, hub ...
May 11 02:23:41 <Guest66805> nothing powers up or shows up in dmesg
May 11 02:23:58 <veremit> did you plug it in before or after booting?
May 11 02:24:05 <Guest66805> tried both
May 11 02:24:31 <veremit> and the board definitely works, comes up with the beagle display on a hdmi-monitor?
May 11 02:24:38 <veremit> or via web page
May 11 02:24:57 <veremit> lots of happy flashy leds?
May 11 02:25:07 <Guest66805> correct
May 11 02:25:17 <Guest66805> i usually talk to the board over serial interface
May 11 02:25:26 <veremit> on the debug header?
May 11 02:25:48 <Guest66805> i've plugged it in over hdmi and seen stuff on my tv, but without a keyboard and mouse i can't do anything
May 11 02:25:56 <veremit> newp gotcha
May 11 02:26:13 <veremit> does sound like a dead host port
May 11 02:26:29 <veremit> but I know that damn port has issues lol
May 11 02:26:44 <Guest66805> i'm using the rs232 port located next to the sdcard
May 11 02:26:56 <veremit> the what!?
May 11 02:27:08 <veremit> not the Black then?
May 11 02:27:22 <Guest66805> nope, beagleBOARD rev C4
May 11 02:27:45 <veremit> my bad lol
May 11 02:27:55 <veremit> principle should be the same though
May 11 02:28:15 <Guest66805> a few years old at this point, i've never gotten it to work right, last fall i finally found a set of files that allowed me to boot but i'm just now getting around to playing with it some more
May 11 02:28:56 <Guest66805> i tried google'ing the issue a few nights in a row but nothing turned up
May 11 02:28:59 <veremit> usb host ports been quite troublesome with the am335x processors .. driver issue
May 11 02:29:07 <Guest66805> not sure if it's hardware related or i just can't find the right files
May 11 02:29:17 <Guest66805> sad :(
May 11 02:29:17 <veremit> can you try a new image?
May 11 02:29:31 <Guest66805> i've tried both ubunut and angstrom for the file system
May 11 02:29:43 <veremit> usually it works if you power up with usb keyboard attached .. but then I only used the bone-black
May 11 02:29:46 <Guest66805> wondering if it's the files in the boot partition
May 11 02:31:03 <veremit> check dmesg for any usb issues .. mighta disabled the controller due to 'babble' interrupt
May 11 02:31:08 <veremit> or something
May 11 02:34:24 <Guest66805> haven't seen anything like that but i can try looking again for sure
May 11 02:35:35 <veremit> it'll be something weird .. beagle issues usually are .. lol
May 11 02:36:12 <Guest66805> so i'm realizing
May 11 02:36:34 <Guest66805> i've used both the rip and beagle bone as well and even the bone is ridiculous at times
May 11 02:36:57 <Guest66805> *rpi
May 11 02:37:48 <veremit> not done anything much with the Pi .. a fair bit wtih the BBB just with the linux bits (and a bit of LVDS conversion)
May 11 02:38:04 <veremit> imx6 is my fav. platform atm
May 11 02:38:19 <veremit> check out the wandboard :) wandboard.org
May 11 02:50:49 <Guest66805> i only see two things when i do an lsusb
May 11 02:51:11 <Guest66805> root@arm:~# lsusb    Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
May 11 02:51:18 <Guest66805> root@arm:~# lsusb -t     /:  Bus 02.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=musb-hdrc/1p, 480M /:  Bus 01.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=ehci-omap/3p, 480M
May 11 02:51:42 <Guest66805> and this is what's in dmesg
May 11 02:51:44 <Guest66805> root@arm:~# dmesg | grep usb [    0.194763] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbfs [    0.194885] usbcore: registered new interface driver hub [    0.195129] usbcore: registered new device driver usb [    0.195617] musb-omap2430 musb-omap2430: invalid resource [    0.218475] musb-omap2430 musb-omap2430: musb core is not yet ready [    0.218536] twl4030_usb twl4030_usb: Initialized TWL4030 USB module [    0.278259] usbhs_o
May 11 02:56:21 <veremit> "not yet ready" eh?
May 11 02:56:52 <Guest66805> so it says
May 11 02:56:56 <Guest66805> anyidea?
May 11 02:57:06 <veremit> nope .. but its a starting point :)
May 11 02:57:21 <veremit> never seen omap2430 though
May 11 02:57:35 <veremit> "invalid resource" look suspicous
May 11 02:57:52 <veremit> wonder if its got discrete usb on that board?
May 11 02:57:57 <veremit> bbb it uses the processor one
May 11 02:58:26 <Guest66805> hmmm
May 11 02:59:00 <veremit> my guess is once some of that lot is fixed .. you should have working usb ;)
May 11 02:59:23 <veremit> troubleshooting kernel drivers .. oh fun that it is.
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