**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun May 11 03:00:00 2014
May 11 03:01:35 <Guest66805> yeah... might be a module not getting loaded
May 11 03:05:19 <veremit> bit of googling should get you going :)
May 11 04:36:16 <rocky|quadcopter> veremit: those boards look pretty nice
May 11 04:36:45 <veremit> uhoh am I still here?
May 11 04:37:05 <rocky|quadcopter> lol
May 11 04:37:32 <juneeeeeeeeeeeee> anyone know why the Beaglebone black REV C that RS COMPONENTS/RS ONLINE sell are made by ISO TECH? Are they legit? Thank you
May 11 04:38:55 <veremit> our company has bought genuine BBB but they come in their lil beagle box with the beagle, etc .. never heard of an iso-tech version
May 11 04:39:16 <veremit> element14 will have their version in a coupleof months I'd guess
May 11 04:40:21 <mrpackethead> BBB can be made by anyone
May 11 04:40:21 <mrpackethead> there is no restriction on who can make them.
May 11 04:40:32 <rocky|quadcopter> yay opensource!
May 11 04:40:36 <veremit> 'can' is the key word there
May 11 04:40:41 <juneeeeeeeeeeeee> Yup, I have heard of the element 14 version but i have never heard of one made my isotech which made worry what kind of Beagle Bones RS Components are selling
May 11 04:40:45 <veremit> only two companies have the license to make approved ones
May 11 04:41:22 <veremit> I havent' seen chinese clones yet .. but there probably are some
May 11 04:41:27 <mrpackethead> there are quite a few manufacturers nwo.
May 11 04:41:34 <juneeeeeeeeeeeee> http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/processor-microcontroller-development-kits/7753805/
May 11 04:41:35 <rocky|quadcopter> What does being "approved" offer?  The permission to use the BeagleBone branding?
May 11 04:41:38 <veremit> but they don't come through the reputable supplies like farnell /etc
May 11 04:41:45 <veremit> rocky .. essentially
May 11 04:41:52 <juneeeeeeeeeeeee> the rev b they used to sell were the official BB, but now it is ISO TECH. really odd
May 11 04:41:54 <veremit> and it keeps jkridner happy
May 11 04:42:05 <veremit> well .. circuitco were really struggling with production
May 11 04:43:03 <mrpackethead> yes, there are.
May 11 04:43:03 <mrpackethead> if CCO had been organised, this mess woud have never happened.
May 11 04:43:03 <mrpackethead> and the price point was too low
May 11 04:43:10 <veremit> *cough*
May 11 04:43:17 <veremit> lets not have that discussio in here
May 11 04:43:28 <veremit> the margins were tight .. perhaps .. but nobody has made a loss on them.
May 11 04:43:36 <veremit> or it would not be here today
May 11 04:44:05 <mrpackethead> so, people could'nt make any money
May 11 04:44:06 <mrpackethead> and why would you invest in additional produciton capablity, if you coud'nt make any $$$
May 11 04:44:19 <mrpackethead> you'll see the price rise to about $55-60
May 11 04:44:21 <veremit> I'm not 100% it was entirely circuitcos' fault either .. the beagle foundation were as much to blame I suspect
May 11 04:44:34 <juneeeeeeeeeeeee> if someone happens to get in contact wih jkridner. hope you guys could ask if ISO TECH of RS is official beacause the link i got is a straight link from Beagleboards page. Much appreciated.
May 11 04:44:35 <veremit> and I only say that cos certain people aren't here
May 11 04:44:53 <veremit> *awaits the flame war*
May 11 04:45:17 <mrpackethead> the cost of materials at 100k pces is just over $40
May 11 04:45:17 <mrpackethead> when the retail price is $45
May 11 04:45:19 <veremit> I Tell you today .. element14 can make it for the price margins . and they'll make a profit
May 11 04:45:59 <veremit> same as the pi foundation found for their product.
May 11 04:46:03 <mrpackethead> theres NO money to be made, its minus money.
May 11 04:46:13 <veremit> mrpackethead .. I cannot believe that.
May 11 04:46:38 <mrpackethead> and the price will be going up, to soemwhere between 55 and 60
May 11 04:46:43 <veremit> nobody runs a business making a loss
May 11 04:46:48 <veremit> and I don't see the price rising
May 11 04:46:55 <veremit> I don't see Pis at $50 do you?
May 11 04:47:03 <veremit> nope
May 11 04:47:05 <mrpackethead> your choice.
May 11 04:47:05 <mrpackethead> to belive it or not.
May 11 04:47:10 <veremit> indeed
May 11 04:47:23 <veremit> since I'm just costing an imx6 board out myself :)
May 11 04:47:25 <rocky|quadcopter> mrpackethead: are you talking about the price for rev c?
May 11 04:47:40 <veremit> and the imx6 single-core is about $15
May 11 04:47:48 <rocky|quadcopter> because yeah, I've already seen the price higher at online storefronts
May 11 04:47:59 <mrpackethead> but PI doe'snt cost $40.32 in parts alone
May 11 04:48:00 <mrpackethead> to make.
May 11 04:48:00 <mrpackethead> then you have construction
May 11 04:48:03 <veremit> the 4gB eMMC will bring about a price rise, yes.
May 11 04:48:14 <mrpackethead> distribution
May 11 04:48:21 <veremit> thats inevitabe .. look at the silicon cost.
May 11 04:48:24 <mrpackethead> resellers margin.
May 11 04:48:24 <mrpackethead> etc etc.
May 11 04:48:33 <veremit> jkridner's already published that on thebeagle blog
May 11 04:48:46 <veremit> electronics margins are notoriously tight
May 11 04:48:50 <veremit> this ain't the 1980s any more
May 11 04:49:01 <veremit> no 20% margin for Anyone.
May 11 04:49:11 <veremit> except maybe apple :D
May 11 04:49:17 * rocky|quadcopter is gonna duck out until this conversation is over
May 11 04:49:32 <mrpackethead> veremit, are you actively involved in teh electronics industyr?
May 11 04:49:37 <veremit> yes, thanks
May 11 04:49:48 <veremit> as I said .. costing out an imx6 dev board this month.
May 11 04:49:54 <veremit> WITH pcb costs, etc.
May 11 04:49:56 <mrpackethead> cool.
May 11 04:49:57 <veremit> at UK prices!
May 11 04:50:04 <mrpackethead> then go and have a look at the costs.
May 11 04:50:14 <mrpackethead> and you'll work it out for yourself.
May 11 04:50:15 <veremit> yes, inflated UK prices
May 11 04:50:28 <veremit> not chinese or american ones (although we may use US suppliers at our discretion)
May 11 04:50:40 <veremit> we don't have access to china/taiwan/etc
May 11 04:51:00 <mrpackethead> why?
May 11 04:51:16 <mrpackethead> best thing i did was move all my production to china.
May 11 04:51:17 <veremit> because our company doesn't deal in sufficient volume
May 11 04:51:37 <mrpackethead> so, you spend less than $1000?
May 11 04:51:39 <veremit> and doesn'tbelieve in it .. which is their choice.
May 11 04:51:54 <veremit> not entirely mine.
May 11 04:51:58 <mrpackethead> that old "they only do huge voluems"
May 11 04:52:01 <mrpackethead>  is nonsence.
May 11 04:52:03 <veremit> cos you'll never get the margin down
May 11 04:52:11 <veremit> but eh.
May 11 04:52:14 <veremit> not my decision lol.
May 11 04:52:20 <mrpackethead> I send lots of jobs to china, that are between $10-20k
May 11 04:52:27 <mrpackethead> and several betwee $2 and $5k
May 11 04:52:37 <veremit> I've seen one or two pcb jobs .. the quality ain'tbad either
May 11 04:52:38 <mrpackethead> and my fab company does jobs for $500 if i ned it.
May 11 04:52:56 <mrpackethead> its a mixed bag of course.
May 11 04:52:56 <veremit> I might pm ya off-board one day then ;)
May 11 04:52:57 <mrpackethead> there is absolute crap
May 11 04:53:05 <mrpackethead> and very very good as well
May 11 04:53:25 <veremit> yes one company we do use have offices out in asia
May 11 04:53:51 <veremit> but for some reason we prefer the ones i nthe same country .. -shrug-
May 11 04:54:06 <veremit> county* even too
May 11 04:55:08 <veremit> But I don't buy the argument (certainly with current PR statements) that circuitco have gone bust making the beagle. I'm sorry.
May 11 04:55:39 <veremit> especailly with demand so high
May 11 04:56:01 <veremit> I do believe, and understand .. that there have been many factors at play.
May 11 04:56:17 <mrpackethead> i did'nt say go bust.
May 11 04:56:23 <mrpackethead> I said can't make any money.
May 11 04:56:38 <veremit> it never was their exclusive business line
May 11 04:56:44 <mrpackethead> I'd also take much of what CCO say with a big grain of salt
May 11 04:56:49 <veremit> but I don't believe that it wouldn't stand alone safely.
May 11 05:44:18 <veremit> bbl
May 11 07:40:38 <treeherder> hhi guys
May 11 07:41:20 <treeherder> i've done a bit of microcontroller stuff and have experience with a variety of a boards, but I just plugged my BBB in and am flashing to the emmc nad i've got a load of questions
May 11 07:41:27 <treeherder> i'll start off easy with
May 11 07:42:12 <treeherder> i noticed the emmc only has 2GB right, so once i flash my image and boot from the emmc, should i format the SD card for /home/ or something?
May 11 07:42:35 <trevize> hello, anyone here having copy/paste issues with cloud9?
May 11 07:42:37 <treeherder> i already made the mistake of trying to boot form the emmc while the sd was still plugged in
May 11 08:47:21 <dastaan> Hello, I think i might have made a mistake while powering up BBB through P9 header and now it doesn't powerup. Do we have a fuse or something ?
May 11 08:57:43 <tbr> dastaan: read the SRM
May 11 08:57:49 <tbr> dastaan: what did you do?
May 11 09:00:19 <dastaan> Actually, I designed a mother board for it to make it like an industrial PC, however while mounting, I might have made a mistake and now it's not turning on.
May 11 09:01:17 <dastaan> make it work*
May 11 09:01:21 <tbr> then your mistake might have destroyed it
May 11 09:01:31 <dastaan> Yes, that's pretty much it
May 11 09:01:33 <dastaan> :|
May 11 09:01:44 <dastaan> and there's no fuse on it
May 11 10:33:58 <k-man> is there any way to see progress of the emmc updating process
May 11 10:34:00 <k-man> ?
May 11 10:38:05 <trevize> nope, if it takes more than 20 mins, it probably failed
May 11 10:39:27 <k-man> trevize, ok, thakns
May 11 10:57:54 <k-man> the problem with microSD cards is they are so frikkin micro
May 11 10:58:05 <k-man> how am I supposed to label this thing ;)
May 11 11:41:32 <trevize> well u can color them
May 11 11:46:18 <k-man> trevize, good idea!
May 11 12:20:14 <wayne__> hi i would like have some help on accessing gpio pins in bbxm, unboxed it last week
May 11 14:34:19 <deluxe247> i need some advice. I have a sainsmart 3.2" tft lcd and need to know how to connect it to my bbb. I was looking at the lcd pins of the bbb and it seems as though i would be connecting the databus 0-15 pins to the lcd 0-15 pins. is that correct?
May 11 14:36:20 <oosquirrel> i can flash the angstrom image all day long onto beaglebone black, but cant get ubuntu or debian to flash using their emmc flasher image.  anyone else encounter this?  (090413 angstrom, 050614 14.04 ubuntu, 7.5 debian)
May 11 14:45:57 <rubberneck> oosquirrel: i also had issues with the ubuntu 14.04 2014-05-06 the debian 7.4 2014-04-23 worked fine.
May 11 14:48:08 <rubberneck> oosquirrel: the issue with the ubuntu one is it tires to unmount the /dev/mmcblk1p1 and p2 since they are not mounted it errors out.
May 11 15:26:04 <oosquirrel> rubberneck, thanks for your response.
May 11 15:26:58 <oosquirrel> rubberneck: , thankyou for your response
May 11 15:27:30 <rubberneck> oosquirrel: yeah np i was able to get ubuntu to load by logging into the flasher and mounted the emm and then re running the beaglebone-black-eMMC-flasher.sh script
May 11 15:29:53 <oosquirrel> im going to give it a shot as we speak.
May 11 15:30:44 <oosquirrel> did you mount both emmc partitions to any arbitrary location?
May 11 15:31:01 <rubberneck> oosquirrel: yes
May 11 15:31:35 <rubberneck> oosquirrel: just made some temp dirs in the /mnt and mounted them there
May 11 15:31:45 <oosquirrel> rubberneck: great, i feel fully prepared.  writing a new sd card as we speak (i was grasping at straws until i found the flash debug folder.
May 11 15:57:49 <Tommy24> Can someone help me to run debian + xenomai on bbb?
May 11 16:02:34 <oosquirrel> rubberneck: 14.04 goodness, being flashed properly.  hope this helps someone in the future!
May 11 16:03:21 <rubberneck> oosquirrel: good deal
May 11 18:44:15 <spce_> hello
May 11 19:02:34 <deluxe247> so Im trying to hook this screen up to my beaglebone black: http://www.sainsmart.com/sainsmart-3-2-tft-lcd-display-touch-panel-pcb-adapter-sd-slot-for-arduino-2560.html can anyone help with this?
May 11 19:03:14 <deluxe247> It looks as though I should be able to use the beaglebone's lcdc to control it
May 11 19:05:26 <spce_> HI
May 11 19:07:47 <deluxe247> has anyone one had any luck with this i see this done over spi  with the pre 3.8 kernel change
May 11 19:32:21 <nwmcsween_> hi I just got my bbb, hooked it up to a windows 7 pc and nothing comes up?
May 11 19:32:25 <nwmcsween_> is that normal?
May 11 19:38:40 <spce_> Hi i loaded a project software to the board and now it is not showing up in my computer
May 11 19:38:49 <spce_> is there a hard reset
May 11 19:39:18 <nyt-> flash via sdcard
May 11 19:39:41 <veremit> nwmcsween_ .. you usually have to install some drivers
May 11 19:39:46 <nwmcsween_> I did
May 11 19:39:51 <nwmcsween_> led's are flashing
May 11 19:39:59 <veremit> then I -think- you should get an extra disk drive
May 11 19:40:06 <veremit> I've never done it with windoze
May 11 19:40:13 <nwmcsween_> no nothing
May 11 19:40:26 <veremit> you shuold be able to open a web browser to 192.168.2.7 is it?
May 11 19:40:34 <nyt-> 72.
May 11 19:40:35 <nyt-> 7.2
May 11 19:40:36 <veremit> somebody help me out here .. never done windoze
May 11 19:40:37 <nyt-> 192.168.7.2
May 11 19:40:40 <veremit> thanks nyt-
May 11 19:40:57 <nwmcsween_> nothing there either
May 11 19:41:00 <nyt-> if your computer doesnt detect the device it wont work
May 11 19:41:09 <nyt-> either you have defective hardware or corrupt flash most likely
May 11 19:41:12 <nyt-> try reflashing or something
May 11 19:41:18 <nwmcsween_> ugh
May 11 19:41:20 <nyt-> or hook up hdmi/seril
May 11 19:41:22 <nyt-> serial
May 11 19:41:39 <nyt-> lol they made it easy enough to flash with the flasher images all you have to do is write an sd card and boot it
May 11 19:50:32 <spce_> I have a project writen as a uImage what program do i use to edit it
May 11 20:21:56 <veremit> you can't create an application as a uImage.
May 11 20:22:01 <veremit> not in my understanding ..
May 11 20:22:05 <veremit> theoretcially, perhaps.
May 11 20:22:14 <veremit> uimage is just a kernel.
May 11 20:23:13 <alan_o> I missed the first part of this, so I'm not sure if this is relevant, but you can roll up your root filesystem into an initrd, and you can attach that initrd to your kernel.
May 11 20:23:30 <alan_o> It gives you a way to have a single-file environment.
May 11 20:24:16 <alan_o> It allows you to create, for example, a system with no filesystem/block drivers loaded.
May 11 20:24:30 <alan_o> You can attach a devicetree the same way
May 11 20:25:12 <alan_o> So maybe that's what you mean by "application as a uImage"
May 11 20:26:55 <veremit> alan_o .. yes, I believed this to be possible .. but certainly not a common implementation :)
May 11 20:28:06 <alan_o> veremit: probably more common in consumer devices than you might think. I work on a consumer set-top box that works this way.
May 11 20:28:43 <veremit> alan_o .. makes sense & more secure
May 11 20:29:04 <veremit> but .. Beagle was never licensed or designed for use in OEM products :)
May 11 20:29:10 <myself> i work on a vehicle nav system that works this way in recovery more. normal mode had a real rootfs on emmc
May 11 20:29:12 <veremit> *mandatory disclaimer* lol
May 11 20:30:00 <alan_o> I mean for Linux on embedded devices in general, although you can do it on a beagle.
May 11 20:31:14 <veremit> yup :) I'm with ya.
May 11 20:31:39 <veremit> can I ask how the nav system works, roughly?
May 11 20:33:11 <myself> it's an embedded Linux box with some vehicle interface goodies.
May 11 20:33:19 <myself> there's not much to it.
May 11 20:38:40 <myself> in recovery mode, the system comes up with a different devicetree that runs the fan at full speed and stuff, and the init scripts are basically just looking for a USB device containing recovery files
May 11 20:39:49 <alan_o> your vehicle has been booted in safe mode....
May 11 20:40:10 <myself> not the whole car, just one module
May 11 20:41:22 <myself> vehicle networks are delightfully independent. modules may set all sorts of fault codes if they can't talk to their buddies, but they will continue to operate as long as the bare minimum stuff is available.
May 11 20:42:26 <myself> There's a rather interesting set of failsafes in some things, I'm familiar with one system where, if the HVAC module doesn't hear from the button-panel for a certain period (I think it's 30 seconds), it turns on the defroster since that's the maximally-safe thing to do.
May 11 20:50:41 <veremit> cool lol
May 11 20:51:03 <veremit> just wondered what kinda set up you had .. gps, etc .. linkup or storage of nav data, etc.
May 11 20:51:19 <veremit> since there are a few different ways to go about it
May 11 20:53:01 <myself> well, some of the details are proprietary but I think I can say all the systems I've worked on use local storage for the nav data, though they may get live traffic info by various means
May 11 21:22:55 <Tommy24> Can someone help me with bbb to install xenomai?
May 11 21:34:40 <veremit> rocky|quadcopter was doin it yesterday I think
May 11 21:35:44 <Tommy24> No success :(
May 11 22:03:00 <veremit> what OS are you running Tommy24?
May 11 22:08:41 <Tommy24> On bbb iam running debian
May 11 22:09:45 <Tommy24> "Debian (BeagleBone Black - 2GB eMMC) 2014-04-23"
May 11 22:15:38 <veremit> ok
May 11 22:15:51 <veremit> its not something I've done myself .. but Ill see if I can find you some pointers ..
May 11 22:17:25 <Tommy24> Okay thanks
May 11 22:23:57 <veremit> Tommy24 .. here is one approach .. https://github.com/DrunkenInfant/beaglebone-xenomai/blob/master/beaglebone-xenomai-debian.md
May 11 22:25:16 <veremit> this .. http://sagar.se/xenomai-debian-on-bbb.html .. is much simpler
May 11 22:25:52 <veremit> but looks like there are bits missing
May 11 22:37:48 <Tommy24> Yeah i've seen but this explanation bit this is not fine to understand for someone who never done this
May 11 22:38:39 <veremit> true
May 11 22:38:49 <veremit> this is quite complicated stuff
May 11 22:39:13 <veremit> I'm sure someone was referring to a more detailed guide somewhre .. but I'm not sure where
May 11 22:43:02 <veremit> Tommy24 .. my logs say .. http://brunosmartins.info/xenomai-on-the-beaglebone-black-in-14-easy-steps/
May 11 22:44:55 <Tommy24> Yeah this ive tried but i stuck on step preparing the sd card i dont have an "uImage" and i dont have a "uImage-3.8.13" on "sd/boot/" so my problem is to install the kernel not not compile
May 11 22:47:51 <veremit> what do you have?
May 11 22:49:55 <Tommy24> Wha os im using to compile the kernel?
May 11 22:50:43 <veremit> no
May 11 22:52:16 <Tommy24> What do you mean then?
May 11 22:54:53 <veremit> when you build the kernel .. you shuold end with a uImage
May 11 22:54:56 <veremit> or a zImage sometimes
May 11 22:55:01 <veremit> let me get the instructions up
May 11 22:58:19 <Tommy24> i got a "Image"
May 11 22:59:12 <veremit> somethings' broken then
May 11 23:00:47 <veremit> so how far down this have you got?
May 11 23:00:53 <veremit> I don't have my build system here to try it on
May 11 23:01:18 <veremit> you'll see step 9 says "Make <blah> uImage dtbs modules"
May 11 23:01:40 <veremit> that should result in a file "uImage" in that build folder
May 11 23:01:52 <Tommy24> Yeah step 9 - then i got a "Image" not "zImage" or "uImage"
May 11 23:03:08 <veremit> ok somehow you got a broken build system
May 11 23:03:50 <veremit> possibly if you're not building it on ubuntu .. which those instructions use
May 11 23:04:09 <Tommy24> But i got no errors
May 11 23:04:44 <veremit> possibly masked
May 11 23:05:15 <veremit> make uImage > tells it to make a uImage file .. but it won't unless the uboot package is installed, for example
May 11 23:05:23 <veremit> zImage needs gzip I think
May 11 23:05:26 <veremit> bzImage bzip
May 11 23:05:29 <veremit> sorta thing
May 11 23:05:48 <Tommy24> Hmm okay so you think i've to try to compile with debian?
May 11 23:06:45 <veremit> you need the right compiler package and uboot
May 11 23:06:55 <veremit> if you're using ubuntu, in theory, that should work
May 11 23:06:59 <veremit> so...
May 11 23:07:36 <veremit> try "sudo apt-get install uboot-mkimage"
May 11 23:07:59 <veremit> I'm guessing thats not installed
May 11 23:08:51 <Tommy24> For me its "u-boot-tools" but it is already installed
May 11 23:09:19 <Tommy24> so u boot-mkimage referred to u-boot-tools
May 11 23:09:32 <veremit> oh
May 11 23:10:02 <veremit> which ubuntu?
May 11 23:10:07 <veremit> I see a separate mkimage package
May 11 23:10:31 <veremit> oh wait
May 11 23:10:32 <veremit> hrm
May 11 23:10:44 <veremit> nvm
May 11 23:10:57 <Tommy24> 3.13.0-24-generic #47-Ubuntu SMP Fri May 2 23:30:00 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
May 11 23:17:41 <veremit> hmm not sure I know where to start unpicking that then
May 11 23:19:26 <Tommy24> Hmm
May 11 23:23:37 <veremit> hang in here though, someone's bound to have the answer
May 11 23:24:17 * nyt- yawns
May 11 23:24:18 <nyt-> wordup
May 11 23:27:39 <Tommy24> Ahhhhh great i compiled twice and i got the zImage o.O
May 11 23:28:33 <veremit> might need a 'make clean' or even 'make distclean' if you got a part-compile
May 11 23:28:38 <veremit> mornin nyt-?! :P
May 11 23:28:57 <veremit> any ideas why we might have an Image and no uImage? got uboot-tools ...
May 11 23:34:03 <nyt-> nah its 730 here ;)
May 11 23:34:13 <nyt-> building what with what command
May 11 23:34:29 <veremit> xenomai kernel
May 11 23:34:38 <veremit> Ican't think why a Make uImage wold fail
May 11 23:34:47 <veremit> or rather .. fail to do the 'uImage# bit
May 11 23:35:10 <Tommy24> Now i got a zImage.. is it wring?
May 11 23:35:14 <Tommy24> *wrong
May 11 23:35:30 <veremit> for what you're doin, yes unfortunately
May 11 23:35:59 <Tommy24> "make -j16 ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabi- LOADADDR=0x80008000 uImage dtbs modules"
May 11 23:36:01 <nyt-> well
May 11 23:36:03 <nyt-> do you have mkimage?
May 11 23:36:33 <veremit> what does "mkimage --help" say ? (two dashes - -help)
May 11 23:36:51 <Tommy24> is installed
May 11 23:37:11 <nyt-> not familiar with xenomai
May 11 23:37:13 <nyt-> let me check some docs real quick
May 11 23:37:26 <nyt-> well command seems kosher enough
May 11 23:37:29 <veremit> working from .. http://brunosmartins.info/xenomai-on-the-beaglebone-black-in-14-easy-steps/
May 11 23:37:30 <nyt-> please paste output frmo the make command
May 11 23:37:36 <nyt-> pastebin
May 11 23:38:09 <nyt-> run it without -j16
May 11 23:38:16 <nyt-> otherwise itll keep running after a failure on a branch
May 11 23:38:46 <Tommy24> Wait let me dl all stuff again
May 11 23:43:59 <nyt-> out of curiosity what are you using xenomai for
May 11 23:46:42 <Tommy24> I need it for some experiments with a real time os to learn how i can programming and using it
May 11 23:50:16 <veremit> nyt- pm?
May 11 23:50:29 <nyt-> sure
May 11 23:58:55 <nyt-> ugh i need a nap like crazy
May 11 23:59:00 <nyt-> staying up and coding all the time is catching up
May 11 23:59:14 <veremit> staying up and irc is crazy .. done that last 2 weekend :(
May 11 23:59:26 <Tommy24> another question to install the os on the internal eMMC i've to use Debian (BeagleBone Black - 2GB eMMC) 2014-04-23 instead of Debian (BeagleBone, BeagleBone Black - 2GB SD)
May 12 00:00:53 <nyt-> that's the flasher
May 12 00:00:54 <nyt-> emmc
May 12 00:01:00 <nyt-> i had some issues with the last one though
May 12 00:01:04 <nyt-> didnt get to dig into it further
May 12 00:02:27 <veremit> if you get a bootable uSD .. use the script from eewiki.net Beaglebone-black pages
May 12 00:03:52 <veremit> although .. depending on your uSD image .. that might not work lol
May 12 00:03:55 <veremit> don't quote me on that one
May 12 00:06:28 <Tommy24> So now all comiled fine i have the uImage :) - Okay so I use the debian version without the flasher? I tried step 10 but i can't mount the sdcard - It failed because the filesystem
May 12 00:20:47 <veremit> you don't Mount the uSD .. you overwrite it .. with the "xz > /dev/blah" command
May 12 00:21:11 <Tommy24> Yeah but next step i've to mount it to place the new kernel
May 12 00:21:58 <veremit> ow.. where did that nasty angstrom come from ...>,<
May 12 00:22:37 <veremit> so you're ognna tell me you can't mount a FAT partition ... >,<
May 12 00:22:49 <veremit> or an ext one
May 12 00:25:52 <Tommy24> http://pastebin.com/2jXuCbYt
May 12 00:30:24 <veremit> why sdb1 ? tutorial clearly says "mount /dev/sdX2 sd"
May 12 00:38:56 <Tommy24> because i have flashed debian instead of angstrom without emmc flasher so i've only one partition
May 12 01:54:49 <veremit> wow .. wtf happened here lol
May 12 01:54:55 <mrpackethead> huh?
May 12 01:55:16 <veremit> usual irc nonsense :)
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