**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri May 16 02:59:58 2014
May 16 03:28:31 <foreverska> Any PRU guys on?  My PRUs loaded fine yesterday but today are completely ignoring me.
May 16 03:54:56 <_av500_> bad pru day
May 16 06:24:24 <questions> is the beaglebone really better then the pi?
May 16 06:24:58 <LetoThe2nd> if you have to ask, then... no. go and buy a pi!
May 16 06:25:22 <questions> i have one already
May 16 06:25:22 <LetoThe2nd> mostly because there is no worldwide definition of "better"
May 16 06:25:49 <questions> what i basicaly need is just a single board computer to play with, i dont really need gpios or anything
May 16 06:26:13 <LetoThe2nd> maybe you should first define what "better" would mean for you
May 16 06:26:46 <questions> well will it be more stable and run smooter for things like asterisk
May 16 06:27:04 <vagrantc> rpi has more capable graphics hardware, beaglebone black has a faster CPU that's more compatible with off-the-shelf linux distros
May 16 06:27:22 <LetoThe2nd> questions: well then what does "more stable" and "run smooth" mean?
May 16 06:27:34 <LetoThe2nd> you're just replacing buzzwords with other buzzwords so far.
May 16 06:27:36 <ds2> there is a world wide definition of sucks - the Pi
May 16 06:27:37 <ds2> :D
May 16 06:28:15 <questions> will i be able to route 5 calls through the beaglebone without it freezing or rebooting or just falling apart basically
May 16 06:28:39 <LetoThe2nd> questions: now thats a good question, we're getting closer.
May 16 06:28:55 <questions> thats the socratic method
May 16 06:30:12 <LetoThe2nd> not being an asterisk person i can only google, which brings up http://www.beaglebone-asterisk.org/beaglebone-black-vs-raspberry-pi/
May 16 06:30:39 <LetoThe2nd> plus, if you ask the same question to a asterisk channel, i think they should be able to answer
May 16 06:31:36 <LetoThe2nd> and: http://pbxinaflash.com/community/index.php?threads/incredible-pbx-for-beaglebone.13172/
May 16 06:32:11 <LetoThe2nd> where a probably more knowledgeable user then i am says that 5 uncompressed calls are probably not doable.
May 16 06:32:24 <questions> the asterisk ppl dont like me
May 16 06:32:42 <LetoThe2nd> questions: well did you ask them pointless metaquestions too? ;)
May 16 06:33:02 <questions> im just a meta person
May 16 06:33:18 <questions> i just wish y'alls thing had rca video and audio
May 16 06:33:26 <LetoThe2nd> well then, i'm taking this topic as meta done and am off to get meta coffee.
May 16 06:34:24 <questions> im just gonna see if i can get a used one cheap on ebay to play with, then ill have both and im sure i can use them for something together
May 16 06:34:29 <questions> have a gay marriage for SBC
May 16 06:37:50 <questions> i do have a serious question why didnt it include rca video and audio and only hdmi
May 16 06:37:55 <questions> it seems a lot harder to find hdmi stuff
May 16 06:38:08 <ds2> you can add rca audio and video
May 16 06:39:03 <ds2> takes less then $10 of parts
May 16 06:40:07 <questions> hmm but thats 20 more then the pi, i just wonder why it wasnt included to begin with
May 16 06:41:14 <ds2> the Pi is a PoS
May 16 06:41:26 <ds2> try doing video overlays with the PoS
May 16 06:41:59 <questions> now now, no need for insults
May 16 06:42:19 <questions> also why doesnt it get its power via usb
May 16 06:42:27 <ds2> hmm?
May 16 06:42:40 <ds2> what doesn't get its power via USB?
May 16 06:43:10 <questions> the BBB, it seesm to have a barrel adaptor instead of  microusb like the pi which seesm to not power the usb ports if on battery
May 16 06:44:24 <ds2> you can power the BBB from USB
May 16 06:44:33 <ds2> just plug it in. it will autoswitch
May 16 06:45:28 <questions> hm but it is a barrel connector right ?
May 16 06:46:04 <ds2> no
May 16 06:46:15 <ds2> there is 3 ways of powering the BBB
May 16 06:46:24 <ds2> you can use the battery power points
May 16 06:46:31 <ds2> you can use the barrel connector
May 16 06:46:35 <ds2> you can use the USB connector
May 16 06:46:43 <ds2> it will autoswitch between them
May 16 06:47:21 <ds2> s/there is/there are/
May 16 06:50:26 <KotH> or you can let chuck norris stare at the BBB until it powers itself
May 16 06:51:27 <ds2> stop trying to burn them out!
May 16 06:51:44 <questions> hmm, well like i said if i get it cheap enough on ebay ill buy it if not else to satisfy my curiosity
May 16 06:51:52 <questions> thanks anyway
May 16 06:52:25 <ds2> if price is all that matters, I can get you setup with some very cheap 8086 desktops or even *gasp* 80286 ones
May 16 06:53:34 <KotH> ds2: shipping paid by recipient?
May 16 06:54:00 <ds2> of course
May 16 06:54:22 <colttt> good morning
May 16 07:07:54 <johnwalkr> embest is the maker of the “other” BBB right?
May 16 08:20:19 <av500> 4 BBB in germany in stock: https://hbe-shop.de/Art-2401441-ELEMENT14-BBONE-BLACK-BEAGLEBONE-BLACK-CORTEX-A8-SBC-ZZ-AUF-LAGER-4-STUECK
May 16 08:20:19 <mrpackethead> eww! four!
May 16 08:20:19 <av500> for he who is in want of one, four is an abundance
May 16 08:20:23 <mrpackethead> lol.
May 16 08:20:49 <mrpackethead> there is 24 in New Zealand
May 16 08:20:59 <av500> yes, but there is nobody in new zealnd :)
May 16 08:21:10 <mrpackethead> not today, i'm in Australai
May 16 08:21:12 <Dan1> sheep cant use computers?
May 16 08:21:15 <Dan1> ;P
May 16 08:21:26 <mrpackethead> Bahhhhaaa!
May 16 08:23:30 <colttt> endlich gibts das Teil..
May 16 08:28:14 <KotH> lol
May 16 08:28:22 <KotH> ze tschörmans!
May 16 08:28:38 <av500> JAWOHL!
May 16 08:28:59 <KotH> NEIN! NEIN! NEIN!
May 16 08:29:31 <av500> RAUS!
May 16 08:29:48 <colttt> jetzt überleg ich ob ich mir endlich mal so nen teil hole.. aber freizeit ist grade nicht reichlich vorhanden
May 16 08:29:56 <tbr> ruhe da swisscheseball
May 16 08:30:14 <av500> colttt: geht auch in der 5 Minutenpause
May 16 08:30:36 <colttt> das bestellen ja, aber nicht damit rumspielen/basteln ;)
May 16 08:30:46 <av500> das auch
May 16 08:30:53 <av500> ist ja schön klein
May 16 08:31:15 <av500> ausserdem ist "haben" ja auch schön
May 16 08:32:19 <johnwalkr> i just ordered 4 fro embest, hope i get them when they say (early june)
May 16 08:35:02 <KotH> tbr: häb de latz!
May 16 08:44:24 <woglinde> hoi
May 16 08:44:25 <KotH> servus woglinde
May 16 08:44:25 <KotH> lang ned gelesen!
May 16 09:03:23 <heeen> hi leute :)
May 16 09:03:53 <heeen> do I lose emmc or microsd functionality when I pinmux the P8 P9 mmc1 pins
May 16 09:04:53 <Craig> Hi,
May 16 09:48:33 <HeHoPMaJIeH> Hi all
May 16 09:51:06 <HeHoPMaJIeH> i have a few questions about am335x lcd dtiver
May 16 09:51:06 <HeHoPMaJIeH> i am using custom board based on am3352
May 16 09:51:07 <HeHoPMaJIeH> and i have some troubles with DT i guess
May 16 09:51:27 <HeHoPMaJIeH> lcd panel is innolux and connections are ok but i see nothing on data lines
May 16 09:52:43 <HeHoPMaJIeH> i use pinmux found in docs
May 16 09:52:45 <HeHoPMaJIeH> http://pastebin.com/TEnRQjeN
May 16 09:53:49 <HeHoPMaJIeH> i will appreciate any help
May 16 10:26:03 <colttt> gibts eine möglichkeit den beaglebone oder ein mikrokontroller der mittels (kleinem) akkupack mehrere Monate trotzdem funktioniert?
May 16 10:27:06 <av500> depends on the size of your battery :)
May 16 10:27:24 <av500> some microcontrollers run for years on small batteries
May 16 10:27:31 <av500> but they sleep most of the time
May 16 10:42:06 <Sunsized> hi
May 16 10:44:33 <colttt> av500: thanks.. can adruino do this? wen need it for temperature measurement with(!) WLAN
May 16 10:48:09 <Rotti> colttt: with wifi it's gonna be difficult i'm afraid. the only possibility would be to turn the wifi radio off most of the time and send the measurements just once a day / an hour or so
May 16 10:48:36 <Rotti> colttt: have a look at the datasheets / power consumption information
May 16 10:49:05 <Rotti> colttt: is it going to be outdoor? you could try to attach a photovoltaic panel
May 16 10:51:10 <Rotti> colttt: http://www.exp-tech.de/Shields/Wireless/WiFi/XBee-Wi-Fi-Module-with-U-FL-connector-XB2B-WFUT-001.html this one might work if it is in power down mode... what size is possible for the batteries?
May 16 10:53:05 <ketas> carambola2 or whatever is based on that soc?
May 16 11:20:38 <envee> i am buying beagle bone black rev c
May 16 11:21:07 <envee> and just want to confrim that beagel bone camera cape will work fine with this or not?
May 16 11:49:39 <sumti> hey
May 16 13:02:56 <heeen> av500: what is the mmc1 pin group used for on the BBB
May 16 13:03:08 <heeen> the micro SD or the emmc
May 16 13:03:10 <heeen> or neither
May 16 13:03:16 <av500> what does the schematic say?
May 16 13:03:27 <heeen> haven't checked :X
May 16 13:03:48 <av500> +1
May 16 13:08:22 <heeen> The onboard eMMC uses the MMC1 signals. They are also connected to the expansion header.
May 16 13:08:24 <heeen> ah
May 16 13:08:30 <av500> yes
May 16 13:08:38 <av500> if you dont use the emmc, you can use these pins
May 16 13:08:44 <av500> same for the HDMI out
May 16 13:10:28 <heeen> I see
May 16 13:10:37 <heeen> that was what I was looking for
May 16 13:11:06 <heeen> question about PRU pinmux mode
May 16 13:11:18 <heeen> most r30 pru pins are in mode 5
May 16 13:11:35 <heeen> but why do I need to set the EIN bit
May 16 13:12:15 <heeen> http://elinux.org/Ti_AM33XX_PRUSSv2
May 16 13:12:34 <heeen> this table says the mode should be 0x25, so 0x20 | 0x05
May 16 14:45:30 <rbs_> How do I install a new u-boot to the eMMC
May 16 15:06:15 <jacwester> Hallo
May 16 15:10:00 <jacwester> i am trying to controlle a PWM controller ( external) with rct time. is that possible?
May 16 15:10:29 <jacwester> rct=trc
May 16 15:12:03 <jacwester> *rtc
May 16 16:24:10 <upwardindex> I just loaded the latest debian image for my bb and when I enter username at login I get: “INFO: task mmcqd/0:70 blocked for more than 60 seconds.”
May 16 16:25:49 <upwardindex> Could it be that the SD card is defective?
May 16 16:33:12 <upwardindex> Seems like it was the SD card as using a new one fixed the problem.
May 16 16:36:28 <peterpressure> Any pages on getting the WL18xx cape working with a BeagleBone black on the latest Debian image?
May 16 16:37:13 <peterpressure> I am going to walk through the Wiki, but its for the older Angstrom distro http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Using_the_WL18xx_Cape_with_BeagleBone_Black
May 16 17:01:31 <OnlineCop> Should wicd auto-detect my netmask?
May 16 17:02:58 <OnlineCop> s/netmask/gateway/
May 16 17:03:36 <__butch__> @OnlineCop: It should get that information from the DHCP server.
May 16 17:04:15 <OnlineCop> Oddly, it doesn’t unless I forcibly add it with “route add default gw …”
May 16 17:04:30 <__butch__> That's fairliy messed up.
May 16 17:04:34 <__butch__> Or suspish.
May 16 17:04:37 <__butch__> Or hinky..
May 16 17:04:42 <__butch__> Or some other such "hip" word.
May 16 17:04:57 <OnlineCop> Would the fact that I have ‘auto eth0’ lines in my /etc/network/interfaces make wicd hate my eth0?
May 16 17:05:02 <__butch__> Sounds like the DHCP server isn't being all that it can be.  :-)
May 16 17:05:31 <__butch__> It shouldn't.  I have both eth0 and wlan0 configured, and my networking life is (reasonably) pleasant.
May 16 17:05:47 <__butch__> You could try disabling the interface and taking it down.
May 16 17:06:00 <__butch__> Then try getting a new DHCP lease using dhclient.
May 16 17:06:04 <__butch__> See how that behaves.
May 16 17:06:55 <__butch__> Unless,of course, the only way you can get to the BBB is via eth0.  :-(
May 16 17:08:16 <OnlineCop> Well, I’m trying to use eth0, usb0, and wlan0.
May 16 17:08:37 <OnlineCop> So far, eth0 works properly on one board but not another, and it’s nearly impossible to diff all the files between the two.
May 16 17:09:26 <__butch__> That's just messed up.  eth0 should just work on all boards.  You shouldn't need to fiddle with it at all.
May 16 17:09:42 <OnlineCop> That’s why this is annoyin.
May 16 17:14:09 <OnlineCop> OCD: Dislexics Out of Control
May 16 17:14:31 <peterpressure> posted some basic Audio Cape instructions here: http://elinux.org/CircuitCo_talk:Audio_Cape_RevB
May 16 17:14:43 <peterpressure> Audio working for me with the latest Debian image...
May 16 17:18:11 <OnlineCop> *sigh*
May 16 17:18:32 <OnlineCop> Okay, would I want to use rsync or scp to basically full-copy the contents of my BBB onto my computer?
May 16 17:18:44 <OnlineCop> rsync, I understand, compresses stuff for me.
May 16 18:06:36 <AE7IK> Whee, time to play with a BBB as work.
May 16 18:07:07 <AE7IK> First need to find some room on my desk, sheesh, what a shitpile.
May 16 18:15:39 <OnlineCop> My entire day revolves around playing with a BBB. It’s… shiny.
May 16 18:19:28 <Cardoe> Wondering if this is an issue I can get RMA support from. I have a dozen BBB boards and 11 work fine but 1 refuses to boot from about 3/4ths of microSD cards. The same microSD cards work in the other 11 boards.
May 16 18:20:31 <OnlineCop> Cardoe: Does it boot consistently from the 1/4 microSD cards, or are those spotty as well?
May 16 18:20:41 <OnlineCop> Like, insert/remove a few times and it may-or-may-not work?
May 16 18:21:43 <Cardoe> OnlineCop: Its spotty from any uSD cards.
May 16 18:22:02 <OnlineCop> Of the 30~ish boards I work with, 90% of them don’t catch the microSD the first time I insert it: I have to eject and re-insert them each time.
May 16 18:22:05 <Cardoe> I don't even have to insert and remove them. I just have to power cycle it and it'll work.
May 16 18:22:51 <OnlineCop> Cardoe: Is that for the 1 board that doesn’t work properly (power cycle for the fix) ?
May 16 18:23:10 <Cardoe> Basically none of the 4 LEDs light up and it shows up on USB as another device type that looks like its TI's Sitara debug interface VID:PID
May 16 18:24:02 <Cardoe> OnlineCop: The cards that "work" are a pull power, apply power. Pull power. Apply power. And then finally it will work. All the other cards I can apply power and it works fine everytime from uSD.
May 16 18:26:21 <Cardoe> Occasionally it will light 3 LEDs on boot and omit the one closest to the ethernet.
May 16 18:53:56 <joel_> Hey guys- I'm using the 1x08 header from SparkFun's eagle library
May 16 18:54:14 <joel_> Anyone know if I need to draw drill holes in the PCB layout after placing the footprint?
May 16 19:05:42 <joel_> ah never mind, the drill is already specified.
May 16 19:34:10 <AE7IK> I've got a BBB RevB, need to reload an image onto the flash as it's 'bricked' in that someone tried changing the root password, and it didn't like it but accepted it, so now they're no way to get root on the thing.
May 16 19:34:58 <OnlineCop> Can you boot off the SD card?
May 16 19:35:07 <AE7IK> I believe so.
May 16 19:35:20 <AE7IK> I have an SD card here, just need to find where to get an image.
May 16 19:35:32 <OnlineCop> Hold down the button just above the SD card slot while you power up the device and it will read it from there.
May 16 19:35:44 <OnlineCop> http://beagleboard.org/latest-images/
May 16 19:37:31 <AE7IK> Cool
May 16 19:38:15 <AE7IK> I take it I'll want the eMMC Flasher version.
May 16 19:38:21 <nyt-> you can change root pass fairly easy if you dont want t blow out your config
May 16 19:38:24 <nyt-> or just reflash
May 16 19:38:41 <nyt-> if you edit uenv.txt and pass init=/bin/sh to the kernel boot params
May 16 19:38:45 <nyt-> itll boot right into a root shell
May 16 19:39:01 <nyt-> if you have a serial hookup to it
May 16 19:39:09 <nyt-> you can then change mount / rw and change your pass
May 16 19:39:25 <AE7IK> Ah, no, don't have a serial port hooked up.
May 16 19:39:38 <nyt-> or just boot with an sd image, chroot to /media/rootfs or whatever it is then run passwd
May 16 19:40:10 <AE7IK> Wouldn't be a bad idea since I've got the bandwidth to just flash it with the most recent angstrom version too...
May 16 19:40:38 <AE7IK> (This revB board is 2012.12
May 16 19:41:41 <AE7IK> I'd assume that passing init=/bin/sh isn't going to help me with a monitor and keyboard hooked up?
May 16 19:43:05 <nyt-> flash w/ latest deb
May 16 19:43:11 <nyt-> oh if you have a monitor/kb that'll work too
May 16 19:43:21 <nyt-> sorry im so used to running mine headless
May 16 19:43:31 <AE7IK> Ah.  Well, I'll try that then.
May 16 19:43:43 <nyt-> but yeah, latest deb is good =]
May 16 19:43:52 <AE7IK> Angstrom seems to be very good, for the simple fact that there are a lot of really cool devel utils available.
May 16 19:44:19 <AE7IK> We want to use this as a little industrial tester, and be able to quickly throw up a gui, webpage interface, and a few other things with the IO's.
May 16 19:44:46 <AE7IK> From what my boss has told me, the utils and the IDE that plug in from win7 (i'm on a linux host myself preferably), it's very easy to develop for.
May 16 19:45:05 <AE7IK> Hmm.  Isn't booting up yet...
May 16 19:45:24 <AE7IK> Just see 'Beaglebone' on the screen with the dog logo and it's sitting there.
May 16 19:46:33 <AE7IK> Hmmm.  Yeah, I don't think it liked init=/bin/sh :)
May 16 19:46:35 <nyt-> what did you do exactly
May 16 19:46:41 <nyt-> also, debian is the latest supported image
May 16 19:46:44 <nyt-> and imo, far better
May 16 19:46:48 <nyt-> rev c's shipping with it
May 16 19:47:13 <AE7IK> I'm a debian fan, but I gotta play nice with the other people in the office that might want to touch/develop code for it.
May 16 19:47:43 <nyt-> keep in mind angstrom hasnt been updated for nearly a year now for the bbb
May 16 19:47:52 <nyt-> pastebin your uenv file
May 16 19:47:55 <nyt-> ill take a look
May 16 19:48:07 <AE7IK> nyt-: Can't, won't even boot to the point of being mountable.
May 16 19:49:08 <AE7IK> Is the Debian version going to support the uploading of programs via eclipse IDE like angstrom does?
May 16 19:49:38 <nyt-> got me, sorry
May 16 19:49:48 <AE7IK> No worries :)
May 16 20:09:02 * AE7IK twiddles thumbs waiting for the emmc flasher image to get loaded onto the sd card...
May 16 20:09:14 <AE7IK> dd is taking its time on this one it seems.
May 16 20:10:18 <OnlineCop> “Get back to work!”  “Can’t… flashing the MC!”  “Oh… carry on then!”  http://xkcd.com/303/
May 16 20:11:18 <AE7IK> Heh :)
May 16 20:11:32 <AE7IK> It's pizza time, so I suppose it can take its time for a little bit...
May 16 20:15:24 <__butch__> When you're using dd, keep in mind that you should always use the raw device and also use a big (like 32m) blocksize.
May 16 20:15:31 <__butch__> That helps speed things up a lot.
May 16 20:40:00 <Moh_> hi
May 16 20:40:31 <Moh_> do any body know how to set password to cload9 on beaglebone
May 16 20:50:56 <jmcclaire> What's up guys?! Anyone good at driving LED matrices with BeagleBone Black?
May 16 20:51:16 <jmcclaire> I'm looking for some advice
May 16 20:53:19 <jmcclaire> Herro?
May 16 20:53:35 <jmcclaire> worst chat room ever...ok jk there are way worse hahaha
May 16 20:53:37 <OnlineCop> People are here. Just none that can drive LEDs.
May 16 20:53:47 <jmcclaire> Gotcha!
May 16 20:53:51 * OnlineCop would rather stay quiet than light up with snarky replies. :P
May 16 20:53:58 <jmcclaire> :)
May 16 21:13:53 <AE7IK> Okay, so I got the flasher image on my sd card, and got it booted with that...
May 16 21:16:09 <AE7IK> Odd
May 16 21:19:35 <AE7IK> Ah, maybe need a real 5V source rather than a USB source.
May 16 21:20:17 <OnlineCop> I have to hook mine up to extra power if I want to do anything with USB (like wifi dongles).
May 16 21:21:09 <improvnerd> Yeah, USB power is fine for a BB, but not for BB + _another_ USB device.
May 16 21:23:30 <AE7IK> What about using a 2A wallwart or something like that?
May 16 21:23:42 <AE7IK> (USB adapter type)
May 16 21:24:06 <improvnerd> AE71K: I use one of these https://www.sparkfun.com/products/8639 with an iPad charger (2A/ 10W).
May 16 21:24:39 <improvnerd> The iPad charger is pretty high quality, and I carry it around with me anyway.
May 16 21:25:26 <improvnerd> I’m guessing BB treats power coming in through the USB port differently than power coming in through the power jack, but I don’t know for sure.
May 16 21:26:21 <AE7IK> Power jack is center positive I assume?
May 16 21:28:15 <AE7IK> Ah, yeah, center positive.  Sweet.
May 16 21:28:50 <AE7IK> There we go.
May 16 21:29:45 <AE7IK> Goddamn, the flashing process is supposed to take 45 minutes?
May 16 21:29:56 <AE7IK> >.<
May 16 21:40:42 <AE7IK> While the eMMC is being flashed, is there a place where the script output can be seen?
May 16 21:53:37 <AE7IK> So while I'm being a newbie here and my BBB is flashing, I'm looking at the cloud9 IDE and all that stuff, and I'm somewhat confused as to where this is actually compiling... On my PC, e.g. should I be looking to install cloud9 on my PC, or do most people do most of their SW development for the BBB on the BBB itself?
May 16 22:00:03 <AE7IK> Oh, wait, derp, I guess cloud9 is webbrowser based?  Hadn't realized that.
May 16 22:16:21 <__butch__> Got my Rev C today.  #happydance
May 16 22:17:12 <__butch__> Still wondering how to change the default port for Cloud9 from 3000 to something else (like 8000).
May 16 22:19:32 <nyt-> nice
May 16 22:19:46 <OnlineCop> http://hugozap.com/software/2012/05/14/cloud9-start-script/
May 16 22:20:58 <OnlineCop> May or may not answer the port problem, but it’s the closest I’ve found.
May 16 22:30:00 <thurgood> can android be flashed onto the a bbb rev c? or is the image still too large?
May 16 22:31:27 <peterpressure> Anyone use the WL18xx WiFi cape with BeagleBone Black yet? Any instructions for the latest Debian distro instead of Angstrom?
May 16 22:31:29 <__butch__> @OnlineCop: That was enough of a hint for me to figure it out.
May 16 22:32:13 <OnlineCop> __butch__: Yay! Then it was a payback for help the other day for me.
May 16 22:32:35 <__butch__> The file /lib/systemd/system/cloud9.socket contains the socket configuration.
May 16 22:33:02 <__butch__> The other file /etc/default/cloud9 appears to be a red herring.  I didn't change it, but Cloud9 is still running on 8000 now.
May 16 22:33:25 <OnlineCop> Okay, I’m running Debian, using wicd. If I have NO default gateways set, wicd can auto-set the gateway for eth0 or wlan0 (yay). BUT, I can’t get wicd to see “internet via usb0”. If I add the gateway (“route add default gw 192.168.7.1 usb0”), all other traffic dies (no internet via wlan0 or eth0). What should I do?
May 16 22:33:48 <__butch__> The article tickled me to go look for the Cloud9 installer, which I found in /opt/cloud9/install.sh.
May 16 22:34:07 <__butch__> I figured that would probably be where the configuration gets written, and sure enough, that led me to it.
May 16 22:34:13 <__butch__> Merci mult!
May 16 22:35:04 <thurgood> __butch__:  do you have internet sharing configured on your host machine?
May 16 22:35:18 <__butch__> Nope.
May 16 22:35:30 <OnlineCop> Too bad there’s no one online who has succinctly blogged/posted those findings for others to find...
May 16 22:36:09 <__butch__> Do you mean like someone whose full-time job is pretty much playing with the BBB?
May 16 22:37:04 <thurgood> you'll likely need to do that if you want the internet over the usb cable
May 16 22:38:07 <__butch__> @thurgood: I'm using Wi-Fi, so I'm golden.
May 16 22:38:58 <thurgood> ah, thought you were trying to get the 192.168.7.2 port going, which is the USB connection
May 16 22:39:34 <__butch__> Nope, I was trying to change the default port that Cloud9 listens on.
May 16 22:39:35 <OnlineCop> That was my question ;)
May 16 22:40:37 <__butch__> I'll leave you in @thurgood 's hands for that, my friend.  I'm out to enjoy some sunshine.
May 16 22:40:49 <OnlineCop> Yeah; I’m leaving here myself in about 20.
May 16 22:40:54 <__butch__> All y'all have a good weekend!
May 16 22:40:57 <OnlineCop> Gotta go camping with my boy.
May 16 22:41:04 <OnlineCop> See ya, butch.
May 16 22:41:08 <__butch__> Maybe see some of you in San Mateo this weekend at the Maker Faire.
May 16 22:41:11 <__butch__> Have fun camping!
May 16 22:41:18 <OnlineCop> You’re going to the Maker faire?
May 16 22:41:23 <OnlineCop> My co-workers are all going.
May 16 22:41:37 <__butch__> I think I'm taking my son on Saturday.
May 16 22:41:54 <OnlineCop> That’d be fun/
May 16 22:42:04 <__butch__> He's only six, but I'll bet he likes das blinken liten.  :-)
May 16 22:42:56 <__butch__> l8r
May 16 22:43:36 <OnlineCop> Okay, for my gateway question: If I have no default set, usb0 and wlan0 work. usb0 does not. If I set the gateway for my usb0, wlan0 and eth0 stop working.
May 16 22:44:52 <thurgood> do you actually have any device at 192.168.7.1?
May 16 22:45:12 <OnlineCop> No; it’s plugged straight into the computer with no other USB devices.
May 16 22:46:36 <AE7IK> Ah, there we go, finally have a working beaglebone again.
May 16 22:47:19 <thurgood> you'll need internet sharing on your host, and then set the gateway to the gateway to the IP you're sharing through on the host
May 16 22:49:18 <OnlineCop> Instructions from http://lanceme.blogspot.com/2013/06/windows-7-internet-sharing-for.html seem a little different from Win8. :-/
May 16 23:33:46 <AE7IK> Hmmm, any debian beagleboner's here?  The display looks a little squished for me, not sure what it's setting wrong.
May 16 23:38:57 <thurgood> maybe your aspect ratio is off
May 16 23:39:17 <AE7IK> Could be...
May 16 23:40:12 <AE7IK> Wow, that little arm processor gets hot.
May 16 23:42:16 <AE7IK> IR Thermometer says 50C
May 16 23:42:30 <AE7IK> Ambient ~28C
May 16 23:42:41 <AE7IK> Maybe 26.
May 16 23:43:18 <veremit> only 50? processors get up above 70 and thats with a wacking lump of ali bolted to it !
May 16 23:43:25 <veremit> laptops well over 80
May 16 23:43:29 <AE7IK> True.
May 16 23:44:35 <AE7IK> I can get it to read 54 if I move around a bit, not sure how calibrated the position laser on this thing is, but eh.
May 17 01:09:15 <Guest53324> Hi all
May 17 01:09:34 <Guest53324> I m using BeagleBoard xM
May 17 01:09:59 <Guest53324> Its using smsc95xx and ethernet not working
May 17 01:10:51 <Guest53324> beagleboard responds to ping only when it is transmitting ping
May 17 01:11:10 <Guest53324> Can any one help me out please
May 17 01:11:58 <Guest53324> I wants uboot to respond to my host ping
May 17 01:12:17 <Guest53324> But not responding wihtout sending ping from beagleboard
May 17 01:12:26 <veremit> does "ifconfig -a" give it an IP address?
May 17 01:12:39 <veremit> do you see the packet counters increase?
May 17 01:13:21 <Guest53324> let me check
May 17 01:13:51 <Guest53324> No
May 17 01:14:00 <Guest53324> Rx packets counter is same
May 17 01:14:08 <veremit> aha .. thats a clue :)
May 17 01:14:30 <Guest53324> The moment i will ping my host from beagle it will increment
May 17 01:15:55 <veremit> you should see Tx AND Rx
May 17 01:16:01 <veremit> for each ping
May 17 01:16:47 <Guest53324> What i m doing to verify is..keep from both host & target
May 17 01:17:04 <Guest53324> If i will ping from host only target wont respond
May 17 01:17:26 <Guest53324> But if i m pinging from target also it will respond to host ping
May 17 01:17:44 <veremit> eh?!
May 17 01:17:54 <veremit> sounds like a driver bug
May 17 01:18:02 <veremit> or a power issue.
May 17 01:18:08 <Guest53324> I think its something like half duplex
May 17 01:18:34 <Guest53324> I m using static ip's and connected target with host directly
May 17 01:18:46 <veremit> cross-over cable?
May 17 01:18:54 <Guest53324> Yes
May 17 01:18:56 <veremit> although that -shouldn't- matter these days
May 17 01:19:05 <veremit> decent cards do auto-MDX
May 17 01:19:11 <veremit> no idea about the beagle end though
May 17 01:19:35 <veremit> could be a driver weakness
May 17 01:19:36 <Guest53324> I m struggling with this issue many days
May 17 01:19:46 <veremit> anything useful show up in dmesg?
May 17 01:19:54 <Guest53324> I have mini2440 board & used uboot there. It works find
May 17 01:19:56 <Guest53324> fine
May 17 01:20:01 <veremit> what kernel version?
May 17 01:20:05 <veremit> uname -a
May 17 01:20:12 <Guest53324> DOnt have kernel
May 17 01:20:18 <Guest53324> Just from uboot console
May 17 01:20:25 <veremit> oh well ..
May 17 01:20:33 <Guest53324> When i m using kernel its working fine
May 17 01:20:43 <veremit> don't expect uboot to be a complete OS :p
May 17 01:20:51 <veremit> its a bare minimum implementation sheesh!
May 17 01:20:54 <Guest53324> My purpose is to use this target for QNX development
May 17 01:21:09 <veremit> you could check the uboot version I suppose
May 17 01:21:36 <Guest53324> Yes version are different
May 17 01:21:37 <veremit> so you're pinging from one uboot system to another, yes?
May 17 01:22:00 <Guest53324> Yes
May 17 01:22:03 <veremit> ie. uboot->uboot .. not Windows/unix -> uboot
May 17 01:22:12 <Guest53324> uboot system to host
May 17 01:22:34 <veremit> no .. I mean one uboot board to another uboot board.
May 17 01:22:40 <Guest53324> uboot to ubuntu Host
May 17 01:23:02 <Guest53324> Target has uboot & Host is ubuntu
May 17 01:23:11 <veremit> I think you'll probably find all uboots behave similarly .. but as I say .. don't expect uboot to contain perfect drivers for every single network card out there ...
May 17 01:23:24 <veremit> uboot is k large .. not MB
May 17 01:24:46 <Guest53324> Any suggestion?
May 17 01:25:53 <veremit> check uboot version, changelog.
May 17 01:26:00 <veremit> if its a problem .. try a different board/platform.
May 17 01:26:16 <veremit> in reality . I don't see many people running an OS in uboot lol
May 17 01:26:20 <Guest53324> I tried on windows & ubuntu
May 17 01:26:32 <Guest53324> I m not using os
May 17 01:26:41 * veremit goes to make dinner .. bbl :)
May 17 01:26:55 <Guest53324> I just need target with ethernet connectivity
May 17 01:27:14 <Guest53324> so that QNX can talk to target over ethernet
May 17 01:41:22 <AE7IK> My god, something on learn.adafruit.com just causes firefox to choke for about 45 seconds before it finally recovers and shows the page.
May 17 02:08:08 <bosko> i've been trying to get i2c to work for over a week now using c++  I can make it work in the command line but i get unexpected results with c++ program
May 17 02:18:07 <veremit> whats unexpected?
May 17 02:21:52 <bosko> i'm sorry.  i just finished reading the guide to asking questions properly
May 17 02:22:00 <bosko> can I paste my code in here?
May 17 02:22:08 <veremit> oh there's a guide? don't think anyone reads that .. :/
May 17 02:22:16 <AE7IK> Probably a better idea to pastebin and link there.
May 17 02:22:18 <veremit> I recommend pastebin.com .. you don't have to register
May 17 02:23:35 <bosko> ok.  Im on it.  the short of it is that I don't get the expected value for my analog input from my i2c device.  When i read it via command line I get one value and when I read with my c++ code i get a different value
May 17 02:24:03 <veremit> big/little endian?
May 17 02:26:18 <bosko> sorry i don't know what that means..
May 17 02:26:50 <bosko> i'm using http://www.adafruit.com/product/1083 with a beaglebone black
May 17 02:27:06 <bosko> i also have a bit level shifter to bring it down to 3v
May 17 02:28:16 <veremit> endian = byte order
May 17 02:28:28 <veremit> ie .. is the 'bigger' byte first or second.
May 17 02:28:37 <veremit> eg**
May 17 02:29:07 <veremit> with i2c .. can't imagine its complicated though
May 17 02:31:01 <bosko> thanks.  i was doing it from my other computer and it doesn't look like i checked it in on github.. crap.  sorry for wasting your time.  I'll be back when I'm more prepared.  thank you for your time
May 17 02:31:33 <bosko> it didn't seem complicated to me either, yet here i am after a week.
May 17 02:31:46 <veremit> hehe dev fun :)
May 17 02:31:47 <veremit> good luck
May 17 02:32:01 <bosko> thanks!
May 17 02:48:28 <savagecreature> Greettings!
May 17 02:48:48 <savagecreature> I'm an annoying beginner looking for some answers to some hopefully simple questions
May 17 02:51:03 <savagecreature> I'm trying to burn Debian On to my SD card and I'm not understanding the instructions.
May 17 02:53:41 <veremit> so you've downloaded an image, yes, and what OS are you using?
May 17 02:54:20 <savagecreature> Well, I can either download through my windows machine or I can hook up the Beagle to a monitor and download it through Angstrom
May 17 02:54:55 <savagecreature> And I haven't downloaded an image, 'cause the wiki is confusing me.
May 17 02:55:28 <raspberrypifan> is anyone selling a used black?
May 17 02:55:33 <raspberrypifan> i want one to play with
May 17 02:55:33 <savagecreature> It's telling me to use Debian NetInstall,
May 17 02:58:10 <savagecreature> but don't I need to be running Debian to enter the line at the command prompt to use NetInstall?
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