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May 30 05:23:06 <Abhishek_> does compiling a kernel with arm-linux-gnueabi or arm-linux-gnueabihf- make a difference?
May 30 05:50:03 <foreverska> Any PRU people on?  C24 is the DRAM for the current pru always?
May 30 05:58:02 <hype_> foreverska: yeah, although it's not fully hardcoded
May 30 05:58:42 <hype_> but as long as you haven't changed it, it just points to the local memory for each pru
May 30 05:58:59 <hype_> then c25 points to the other pru's memory
May 30 06:01:46 <foreverska> Gotcha.  I have code in here for setting up C24.  I guess I just need C25's equivilant CTBIR_0?
May 30 06:05:11 <Abhishek_> ye[
May 30 06:05:15 <Abhishek_> yes
May 30 06:10:25 <foreverska> Wait a sec... from this example it looks a little like setting CTBIR_0 to 0x00 sets up both C24 and C25
May 30 06:11:58 <hype_> CTBIR_0 is for both c24 and c25
May 30 06:12:18 <hype_> have a look in the pru reference manual for the bits that each one uses
May 30 06:13:35 <foreverska> Fantastic.  Then I was already good to go for C25.  I need to sit down and read the PRU reference manual but it sets off my narcolepsy real bad.
May 30 06:18:09 <foreverska> This XIN and XOUT look useful for highspeed between cores
May 30 06:20:38 <foreverska> Wait a sec... XIN device ID 14 work like the old LFC?
May 30 06:29:12 <foreverska> Oh, PASM didn't like that one bit.
May 30 08:17:13 <Abhishek_> foreverska: be careful of 14, you can stall the PRUs for 1024 cycles if not done properly
May 30 08:20:02 <foreverska> pasm said XIN isn't proper for my PRUs anyway
May 30 10:18:18 <mrpackethead> Zingy zing sinz
May 30 11:11:09 <amar> Hi
May 30 11:12:07 <Guest95744> I am porting android ICS-4.0.3 to the beagle board xm
May 30 11:14:14 <H-H-H> i thought ICS was already available for beaglebone from TI
May 30 11:14:52 <H-H-H> i know ive had android running on my beagle with a 3inch lcd cape and it was an image built by directions from the TI wiki
May 30 11:15:09 <H-H-H> but i cant remember if it was ICS or GINGERBREAD
May 30 11:18:07 <H-H-H> also im using a BBW not the XM
May 30 11:20:53 <tbr> H-H-H: BBB != BBxM
May 30 11:21:06 <H-H-H> i know
May 30 11:21:52 <tbr> Guest95744: look at what rowboat has. if it's possible, they'll have it. although with limited RAM and slow single core, it might not be that great of an experience.
May 30 12:00:01 <Guest95744> I got the source code for ICS 4.0.3 from .bin file not from android repository.
May 30 12:00:50 <_av500_> source code in a .bin file?
May 30 12:01:01 <Guest95744> Yes
May 30 12:01:54 <_av500_> exotic
May 30 12:01:55 <Guest95744> I build the images and created SD card bootable image and booted the kernel and mounted the file system
May 30 12:02:47 <Guest95744> after that init process is not able to start the services in init.rc file.
May 30 12:04:15 <_av500_> then you need to find out why
May 30 12:05:06 <Guest95744> I could not get any clue why.
May 30 12:05:13 <Guest95744> can u plz help.
May 30 12:07:04 <Guest95744> after run the below bin file, the source code has been downloaded into my system
May 30 12:07:07 <Guest95744> ./TI-Android-ICS-4.0.3_AM37x_3.0.0.bin
May 30 12:07:38 <tbr> sounds like an TI-thing
May 30 12:36:23 <_av500_> Guest95744: sorry, we have no idea about TI Android releases
May 30 12:37:34 <Guest95744> ok
May 30 12:51:03 <mistawright> hi guys. I need some help. I installed a custom kernel i built on archlinux to include fbtft driver in the kernel. It has built and i see that my current kernel is built with support for it.  Since it is not a module I know i will not modprobe the device. How can i use the kernel driver and tell it what device etc to use
May 30 13:13:42 <karki> _av500_ : Don't tell me you never found source code in a .bin file ;)
May 30 13:21:51 <BeagleTop> Hello - can someone tell me where i can find somehting about the memory interface from the PRU on bbb?
May 30 14:02:33 <pjustice> the trm isn't adequate?
May 30 14:45:21 <Guest38749> Hello - did someone programming bbb with CCS? I dont know which jTag kit i need :(
May 30 14:46:23 <_av500_> xds100 should be ok
May 30 14:49:20 <slim_> #nick slim1
May 30 14:50:31 <Guest38749> I think u mean xds100v2?
May 30 14:51:32 <karki> Do we have any BB-black simulators  around? visual ones where I can see the IO port values change (maybe build a virtual circuit and watch a LED blink, in the most simple case )
May 30 14:54:03 <Guest38749> Is this the correct one? https://estore.ti.com/TMDSEMU100v2U-20T-XDS100v2-JTAG-Emulator-20-pin-compact-TI-connector-P1848.aspx
May 30 14:54:28 <tbr> Guest38749: most people who think they need JTAG, don't need it though
May 30 14:55:01 <smurray> you'll also need to solder the header on, I think
May 30 14:56:31 <tbr> Guest38749: please ask your questions HERE on the channel
May 30 14:56:38 <tbr> private queries will NOT be answered
May 30 14:58:12 <Guest38749> You sayed most ppl dont need JTAG but without i cant programming with ccs right? And other think i can't read cpu registers without the jtag:/
May 30 14:58:42 <tbr> you are aware that the BBB is not a micro-controller, right?
May 30 14:58:55 <tbr> what are you trying to do with it?
May 30 14:58:55 <woglinde> tbr not?
May 30 14:58:57 <woglinde> dman
May 30 14:59:14 <tbr> woglinde: yeah, there everyone thought it was a fancy arduino clone, nope
May 30 14:59:36 <woglinde> okay I will put in the trashbin
May 30 14:59:41 <woglinde> +it
May 30 14:59:41 <Guest38749> At first I want to test how qick i can read io's to memory
May 30 15:00:11 <tbr> Guest38749: what are you trying to use the board for?
May 30 15:04:33 <Guest38749> First step would be to make a little programm to read/write io's ... so I currently have no big plan  ... maybe performance test how fast i can read/write
May 30 15:05:33 <tbr> but after that? what are you considering to do? it sounds like you're treating it like a microcontroller, which it isn't unless you mean the PRU part
May 30 15:09:24 <Guest38749> Yeah finally i want to test the PRU
May 30 15:15:04 <Guest38749> I want to write a little programm for the PRU which reads IOs from ADC and put them into RAM
May 30 15:15:56 <karki> Abhishek_ : ^
May 30 15:22:13 <tbr> Guest38749: well, no need for jtag then
May 30 15:29:42 <Guest38749> Great - but I'm not able to connect bbb with ccs :( (connection settings) or do i need to remote connect via ssh?
May 30 15:31:17 <tbr> I don't think you can write PRU things with CCS anyway
May 30 15:31:28 <tbr> any particular reason for CCS?
May 30 15:32:33 <Guest38749> Yeah because i worked with it before (MSP430) so i think i know the ide better then other one
May 30 15:33:11 <Guest38749> Sure i could use eclipse to crosscompile stuff too
May 30 15:33:34 <tbr> this might turn out a bit different than what you expect though
May 30 15:34:18 <tbr> I'm not sure if anyone bothered to document a workflow for pru development based on CCS
May 30 15:34:42 <tbr> most people probably just write code in some editor and then compile and run it
May 30 15:34:58 <tbr> I haven't done things with PRU, so I don't know the details
May 30 15:35:17 <tbr> but working with PRU in general is documented and people have been writing about it
May 30 15:36:26 <Guest38749> yeah i already noticed this stuff https://github.com/beagleboard/am335x_pru_package
May 30 15:54:23 <Abhishek_> Guest38749: Start from one of the PRU examples in am335x_pru_package
May 30 15:55:31 <Guest38749> I'll try it
May 30 15:55:47 <Abhishek_> For your application I guess there's already an element14 project
May 30 15:56:01 <Abhishek_> check for PRU and ADC there, you might find it
May 30 15:56:33 <Guest38749> I dont want to use the "internal" ADC from the bbb
May 30 15:57:23 <Guest38749> want up to 50-100 msps want to check whats the limit for the bbb
May 30 16:01:32 <Abhishek_> I understand, that's a project where an external ADC module is used
May 30 16:01:40 <Abhishek_> not the internal ADC
May 30 16:27:54 <NewBur> Hello. I have a BBB with Linux kernel 3.12.10 from the TI git repository. I cannot seem to get USB working with any device. I have tried with USB flash sticks and various devices. From cold boot or hot swap, I cannot get anything to show up in Dmesg as inserted. I triple checked the kernel settings. USB should be enabled and announce new USB devices is turned on. What can I try next?
May 30 16:36:33 <NewBur> Also, lsusb shows nothing.
May 30 16:38:29 <_av500_> pastebin a boot log
May 30 17:04:05 <pjustice> modules installed?
May 30 17:12:52 <H-H-H> also what are you useing for power as the bbb wont enable the usb port if powered via the mini usb
May 30 17:51:29 <upwardindex> When I decompile am335x-bone.dtb it says that uart1 is enabled (status = “okay”) yet I have no /dev/ttyO1, any idea what could be wrong?
May 30 17:52:59 <upwardindex> Could this be the problem: omap_uart 44e09000.serial: did not get pins for uart0 error: -19
May 30 17:53:20 <upwardindex> It mentions “uart0” but the address seems to be for uart1
May 30 17:56:45 <upwardindex> Yup, thanks for listening :D
May 30 17:57:12 <upwardindex> Nothing like a monologue to solve a problem
May 30 18:21:02 <_SY_> can anyone help with setting up eclipse on ubuntu 14.04 correctly with the toolchain for cross compilation and debugging with debian on the Beaglebone Black?
May 30 18:29:02 <_SY_> so fed up with this...
May 30 18:32:16 <woglinde> lol
May 30 18:32:34 <woglinde> he could be glad that the eclipse c stuff improved so much
May 30 18:37:11 <DrDaemonEye> eclipse on the Beagle Boards?  I would imagine that being a bit slow...
May 30 18:38:20 <woglinde> no lol
May 30 18:38:25 <woglinde> he wants 14.04 on desktop
May 30 18:38:34 <DrDaemonEye> ah, yea... I misread it.
May 30 18:38:40 <woglinde> and debugging the running debian on the board
May 30 18:38:57 <woglinde> besides that on a armboard with 1 or 2 gig ram eclipse should run
May 30 18:39:03 <DrDaemonEye> right.  I've not touched eclipse in years...
May 30 18:58:35 <Phosphate> Is it possible to expand the root fs in a debian/eMMC install to 4GB?
May 30 19:02:11 <tbr> if you have a revC board with a 4GB emmc, then probably yes
May 30 19:03:07 <Phosphate> tbr: Yes I do. Tried using the script that expands an SD but no luck. Guess I'll keep Googling, thanks..
May 30 19:04:10 <tbr> Phosphate: I don't know the geometry, but it should be pretty straight forward.
May 30 19:04:22 <tbr> resize partition to cover free space
May 30 19:04:41 <tbr> online resize the filesystem to fill the partition (after a reboot)
May 30 19:06:02 <Phosphate> tbr: Thanks
May 30 19:37:50 <NewBur> Hello. I have a BBB with Linux kernel 3.12.10 from the TI git repository. I cannot seem to get USB working with any device. I have tried with USB flash sticks and various other USB devices. From cold boot or hot swap, I cannot get anything to show up in Dmesg as being present. I triple checked the kernel settings. USB should be enabled and announce new USB devices is turned on. Also lsusb shows nothing. I am powering the board with a
May 30 19:38:03 <NewBur> I am booting the board from external flash with the boot button pressed down. What can I try next? Bootlog: http://pastebin.com/JrMbugtw
May 30 19:44:12 <tbr> NewBur: hot plug won't work anyway for now. there is some fix coming. in your case it sounds like you compiled the kernel with missing features
May 30 19:45:50 <vagrantc> NewBur: did you use a powered USB hub?
May 30 19:46:27 <tbr> if lsusb comes up empty, something in kernel is missing
May 30 19:46:37 <NewBur> Hello tbr, thanks for the answer. What features would be missing?
May 30 19:46:46 <tbr> no idea
May 30 19:47:12 <tbr> look at what e.g. angstrom or the debian image use
May 30 19:47:14 <NewBur> Hello vagrantc, i have not tried with a powered hub.
May 30 19:47:27 <vagrantc> mainline 3.14 works pretty well, too, by the way
May 30 19:48:30 <NewBur> ok, will try 3.14
May 30 19:50:20 <upwardindex> Is it possible to remove the cape eeproms from the device tree using an overlay?
May 30 19:51:01 <vagrantc> NewBur: well, as long as you don't need cape support...
May 30 19:57:51 <NewBur> wouldn't the kernels from the TI git repository have the cape support built in?
May 30 19:58:27 <vagrantc> dunno, i only follow mainline. mainline doesn't have cape support.
May 30 19:59:06 <vagrantc> or rather, doesn't have capemanager, you could hard-code support for certain capes in the .dtb
May 30 19:59:09 <NewBur> ah ok.. I see on gitorious that TI is working on 3.15
May 30 19:59:27 <Tantayo> Hi, I am new here...
May 30 19:59:55 <Tantayo> My brand new BEagleBone Black Rev C does not boot, what can I do?
May 30 20:00:26 <vagrantc> Tantayo: what power supply are you using?
May 30 20:00:33 <vagrantc> Tantayo: do any of the lights come on?
May 30 20:01:32 <Tantayo> I have a 5V 2A adapter... lights look fine....
May 30 20:01:57 <Tantayo> I connected a monitor to the HDMI and I get to see a penguin but it stays there
May 30 20:03:39 <myself> do you have a uart interface?
May 30 20:04:13 <Tantayo> I do not think so. I only have a plain board.
May 30 20:04:54 <myself> having an ftdi friend around is a good idea if you're getting into embedded electronics
May 30 20:05:17 <myself> I'm partial to the moderndevice usb bub I
May 30 20:05:30 <myself> but everyone has their favorite
May 30 20:19:41 <jkridner|work> myself: http://www.bruteforce.org/blog/2014/05/25/mini-ms-pacman/ is my favorite serial adapter.
May 30 20:27:21 <jkridiner> er, meant https://www.tindie.com/products/spirilis/beaglebone-black-ftdi-friction-fit/
May 30 20:53:09 <myself> lmao
May 30 20:53:11 <myself> I was wondering
May 30 20:54:13 <myself> I was like "okay, the Pac Man franchise could be considered a series, or a serial, and maybe miniaturizing it is an adaptation, so is he making a pun?"
May 30 20:54:30 <myself> but no, the adapter on tindie is pretty sweet. And cheap, too!
May 30 21:24:55 * H-H-H gives up trying to persuade php serial to talk to his beaglebone white using arch
May 30 21:25:08 * H-H-H downloads and tries angstrom instead
May 30 21:57:14 <__butch__> Here's what I use for an adapter: http://www.ebay.com/itm/371046646242
May 30 23:58:21 <wednesday> Is anyone having power consumptions problems with usb wifi on BBB?
May 30 23:59:00 <vagrantc> wednesday: powered hub will likely be essential...
May 30 23:59:02 <veremit> wednesday .. if you;re not using a powered usb hub .. you're a fool :)
May 30 23:59:42 <wednesday> really. my raspi doesn't have issues.
May 31 00:00:03 <veremit> no comment.
May 31 00:00:34 <vagrantc> neither does my amd64 laptop...
May 31 00:01:18 <wednesday> ha haa! your laptop has a bit more power than my BBB or my Rasp. :)
May 31 00:01:36 <vagrantc> different hardware, different requirements...
May 31 00:02:09 <wednesday> yeah. I like my BBB they are so much faster but I wish they had a usb wifi that consumed less power.
May 31 00:02:29 <veremit> go get a wandboard dual :p
May 31 00:02:40 <veremit> *cough*
May 31 00:02:45 <veremit> dual-core too :D
May 31 00:02:48 <vagrantc> or quad...
May 31 00:03:01 <veremit> yeah but that costs more :P but it does have SATA :D
May 31 00:03:13 <Shadyman> so does the iteaduino pro
May 31 00:03:18 <vagrantc> in the grand scheme of things, not much more
May 31 00:03:38 <veremit> depends whether you're looking for a $10 second-hand BBB cos ur a cheapass .. lol
May 31 00:03:44 <veremit> mentioning no names raspberrypifan
May 31 00:03:46 <Shadyman> my bad, iteaduino plus.
May 31 00:03:47 <vagrantc> maybe 30% more cost, 200% in capacity...
May 31 00:03:53 <Shadyman> http://imall.iteadstudio.com/iteaduino-plus-a10.html
May 31 00:04:13 <Shadyman> aww, lookit the little A10
May 31 00:04:22 <Shadyman> allwinner, that is
May 31 00:04:27 <veremit> so many choices these days
May 31 00:04:34 <veremit> Pi really opened the market
May 31 00:04:39 <Shadyman> You could even get a zynq with built-in FPGA
May 31 00:04:51 <wednesday> veremit: are you using a wifi usb on your BBB?
May 31 00:05:00 <veremit> nope .. rj45 :D
May 31 00:05:07 <veremit> I use the wand for wifi :)
May 31 00:05:14 <Shadyman> rj45 is best rj
May 31 00:05:17 <wednesday> veremit: me too
May 31 00:05:29 <veremit> although .. I -did- just buy a powered hub for it to use with 3G usb dongle
May 31 00:05:44 <wednesday> veremit: the wand?
May 31 00:05:58 <veremit> www.wandboard.org
May 31 00:08:54 <Shadyman> veremit: If only they'd drop down into BBB pricerange
May 31 00:09:22 <veremit> much more in that board
May 31 00:09:33 <Shadyman> Well, yes. But I can dream, can't I? :)
May 31 00:09:34 <veremit> more likely the beagle will ascend to that price range :)
May 31 00:09:46 <wednesday> yeah the BBB is the best for the buck
May 31 00:10:02 <veremit> best compromise .. but the imx6 is good
May 31 00:12:12 <jpfau> I can't seem to find any info in the SRM about this...what is the minimum voltage that will register as HIGH on the GPIO pins?
May 31 00:12:38 <veremit> need the am335x datasheet
May 31 00:12:49 <veremit> usually its around 2/3 of Vio
May 31 00:20:38 <jpfau> yeah it looks like it's 2
May 31 00:20:39 <jpfau> thanks
May 31 00:27:56 <veremit> good rule of thumb :)
May 31 00:28:07 <veremit> 1/3 for Low, 2/3 for High
May 31 02:50:23 <wheredasource> heyo, is there a place i can browse the debian source?
May 31 02:50:34 <wheredasource> without having to git pull it all
May 31 02:51:44 <nyt-> github
May 31 02:53:16 <wheredasource> looking at robert c nelsons github
May 31 02:53:22 <wheredasource> i don't see source
May 31 02:53:43 <wheredasource> and i don't understand where to find origin/am33x-v3.8
May 31 02:54:01 <wheredasource> (i'm blindly assuming that's where the source is)
May 31 02:54:35 <nyt-> source for what specifically?
May 31 02:55:20 <wheredasource> uio_pruss.c
May 31 02:56:14 <nyt-> https://github.com/beagleboard/am335x_pru_package
May 31 02:56:35 <wheredasource> the kernel module
May 31 02:56:41 <nyt-> ah
May 31 02:56:42 <nyt-> sec
May 31 02:56:55 <wheredasource> i found this http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/drivers/uio/uio_pruss.c?v=3.8
May 31 02:57:14 <wheredasource> but when i compile it, it loads, but no uio are created
May 31 02:57:39 <wheredasource> and, what's included in the debian image has aliases
May 31 02:57:43 <wheredasource> that doesn't.
May 31 02:57:57 <wheredasource> so, i'm guessing it's not exactly the same.
May 31 02:59:03 <nyt-> https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel/tree/3.8
May 31 02:59:18 <nyt-> https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel/tree/3.8/patches/pru
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