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Jun 15 03:23:19 <zmatt> doing gpio from the cortex-a8 is not going to be ideal performancewise
Jun 15 03:25:57 <zmatt> if you need really high-speed gpio, the PRU is worth considering
Jun 15 03:41:56 <wolf1oo> hey all. I'm trying to get my BBB to show up with network over USB, but it's not working. running linux here, and have the cdc_ether module loaded up, but it doesn't do anything with the connected BBB. serial works however (with ftdi_sio module)
Jun 15 03:42:16 <wolf1oo> any advice on getting the networking to work? I've done it before, but not on this computer
Jun 15 03:46:24 <myself> wolf1oo: lsusb
Jun 15 03:46:45 <myself> as a first step, I don't know what to do after that but it'll tell you how it's enumerating, anyway :)
Jun 15 03:52:43 <wolf1oo> hmm well the config descriptor does have an entry for "ethernet networking" for the usb. but the kernel module doesn't try to attach to it, and it won't let me when I manually hit its new_id in /sys
Jun 15 03:58:16 <pjustice> is usbnet loaded?
Jun 15 03:59:35 <wolf1oo> pjustice: yes, cdc_ether loads usbnet. the CDC descriptors are all there, cdc_ether OUGHT to connect automatically
Jun 15 04:13:24 <wolf1oo> im going to try recompiling cdc_ether with more of the driver options enabled to see if that will help it. that's likely the issue. damn me and my conservative module inclusion
Jun 15 04:35:06 <wolf1oo> aha! had to enable usb gadget support in another section of the linux config
Jun 15 04:35:22 <wolf1oo> odd though, i thought that was only for
Jun 15 04:35:28 <wolf1oo> eh nvm
Jun 15 04:48:04 <myself> well, problem solved.
Jun 15 06:14:50 <foreverska> anyone know how to reset nickserv password?
Jun 15 06:18:20 <Shadyman> foreverska: /help nickserv setpass
Jun 15 06:18:28 <Shadyman> er, /msg nickserv help setpass
Jun 15 06:22:09 <asdfmaster> Hello everyone!
Jun 15 06:22:17 <asdfmaster> Quick quuestion
Jun 15 06:22:31 <asdfmaster> What's the highest frequency I can induce a BBB to generate?
Jun 15 06:22:41 <foreverska> 200Mhz... probably
Jun 15 06:22:50 <asdfmaster> Hm
Jun 15 06:23:03 <asdfmaster> And how well can that be tuned/controlled/modulated, if at all?
Jun 15 06:23:20 <foreverska> By the method I'm thinking of, not very until about 3Mhz
Jun 15 06:23:21 <asdfmaster> I basically want to turn mine into an SDR
Jun 15 06:23:38 <asdfmaster> If nothing else, I can turn it on and off for morse code
Jun 15 06:24:08 <asdfmaster> Would you get the 200 mhz or so from the PRUs somehow?
Jun 15 06:24:13 <foreverska> yea
Jun 15 06:24:35 <foreverska> But it can only tune 200, 100, 50, 25, 12.5 etc etc
Jun 15 06:24:49 <asdfmaster> Hm
Jun 15 06:25:09 <asdfmaster> Since the instructions all take a certain number of cycles right?
Jun 15 06:25:15 <foreverska> yea
Jun 15 06:26:02 <foreverska> You might get away with pretty close accuracy on 160 or 80 meters
Jun 15 06:26:54 <foreverska> Esp if you don't mind a little external HW (ie a mixer combining the two prus)
Jun 15 06:27:14 <asdfmaster> How would combining the two help?
Jun 15 06:27:49 <foreverska> One for coarse control and the other for fine control because it does get more accurate the lower the frequency
Jun 15 06:28:21 <asdfmaster> So they would cooperate on the same GPIO pin somehow?
Jun 15 06:29:04 <foreverska> No, two separate pins that get throw into a down/upconverter
Jun 15 06:31:03 <asdfmaster> I unfortunately know nothing about down/upconverters.
Jun 15 06:32:03 <asdfmaster> Is it a transverter?
Jun 15 06:32:41 <foreverska> Yea
Jun 15 06:33:09 <foreverska> That's what you're doing Heterodyne their outputs.
Jun 15 06:35:34 <foreverska> I was playing with this idea the other night actually.  I nearly wrote something to pull 80Meters out of it but then I got distracted
Jun 15 06:35:56 <foreverska> I don't have an 80M antenna anyhow
Jun 15 06:36:18 <asdfmaster> I think I need to know more about analog circuit design to actually get anywhere with this. I can just about understand toggling an RF square wave.
Jun 15 06:36:43 <asdfmaster> Which is likely to waste huge amounts of spectrum.
Jun 15 06:37:01 <asdfmaster> But I'm glad it appears to be possible
Jun 15 06:37:21 <foreverska> You might look into PICs and such.  They can get down to 1ns toggle (beagles are 5)
Jun 15 07:36:00 <dnivra> Hello! Is there a list of SD cards that work fine with a BBB(rev B) - official(unlikely)/community maintained(more likely)? I looked around and found a few posts on the beagleboard google group which said few cards failed in 2-3 months but nothing much beyond that.
Jun 15 07:36:39 <foreverska> I've never had an SD card just plain not work in my BBB
Jun 15 07:37:00 <dnivra> of course, I meant microSD :).
Jun 15 07:37:20 <foreverska> well yea, so did I
Jun 15 07:37:39 <foreverska> I hardly think of SD SD cards.  They always come micro these days just about.
Jun 15 07:38:15 <dnivra> sorry - I was just correcting what I said to be technically correct that is all :).
Jun 15 07:38:27 <dnivra> which brands have you tried foreverska?
Jun 15 07:39:12 <dnivra> I'm thinking of a transcend 8GB class 4 but well any that works is fine with me.
Jun 15 07:39:24 <foreverska> SanDisk, HP, DaneElec
Jun 15 07:39:35 <foreverska> Basically anything I can get my hands on
Jun 15 07:40:57 <dnivra> Ah okay :). And they lasted quite sometime too didn't they? If so, it's likely any I buy should mostly work.
Jun 15 07:41:16 <foreverska> Depends on how much your R/W from them.  I've yet to see an SD card die.
Jun 15 07:43:35 <dnivra> Ah okay that is great news! Thanks a lot foreverska!
Jun 15 07:50:25 <treeherder> so with the BBB GPIO, if i have a device that runs at 2.8v logic, i can safely interface that with the BBB? or do i still need some sort of voltage divider?
Jun 15 07:51:20 <foreverska> GPIO on BBB is 3.3v... isn't it?
Jun 15 07:53:13 <Shadyman> ^
Jun 15 07:53:18 <Shadyman> and ADCs are 1.8
Jun 15 07:53:40 <Shadyman> treeherder: It should be safe as long as your device is 3.3V-tolerant
Jun 15 07:54:38 <Shadyman> ie, can handle having 3.3V highs thrown at it
Jun 15 07:55:29 <foreverska> The beagle can listen all day though
Jun 15 08:12:49 <foreverska> Can't figure out why my PC is refusing an SSHFS from my beagle
Jun 15 08:18:01 <ds2> is the beagle setup to request it as a non root user?
Jun 15 08:26:16 <foreverska> you mean [user]@192.168.7.1?  That user is non-root, yea
Jun 15 08:35:20 <foreverska> Just to be sure I added the user debian to the fuse group and reran without sudo and it still throws a fit
Jun 15 08:48:21 <foreverska> There it goes... not sure what I did
Jun 15 08:51:30 <treeherder> ShadowJK,  thank you
Jun 15 08:51:38 <treeherder> i think iw as confused about the ADC bit
Jun 15 11:10:40 <Dennis_> Hello - did someone know a mux which works with positiv and negativ voltages? Only can find relays which can handle both...
Jun 15 12:27:57 <christianbillp> Does anyone know if its possible to use the BlackLib (C++ library) in a C program on the BeagleBone Black?
Jun 15 12:44:26 <honestly> if it has a C-compatible interface, sure
Jun 15 14:12:46 <ayaka> to enable pwm output, shall I modify the dts or it has been enabled by default?
Jun 15 14:49:33 <dogrocket> anyone know how to instal and i2s codec to beagle?  i have alsa-soc driver modules compiled
Jun 15 14:49:41 <dogrocket> an rather
Jun 15 15:47:07 <nate`> glad i decided to sleep before ordering stuff.  Usually secondary research means better choices.  No longer need to build my own LCD touch screen and mounting bracket.  Found an easier and just slightly more expensive way to accomplish what I'm after.  Though I'm still going to add that radio into the beagle ;)
Jun 15 16:59:00 <ayaka> I want to make a bootable sdcard, but I can't it couldn't boot into sdcard, there is not any output in debug serial
Jun 15 17:06:22 <tbr> ayaka: there are ready scripts around to create a bootable card
Jun 15 17:07:14 <ayaka> tbr, is it just the boot part not the whole image? I want to use my rootfs
Jun 15 17:08:17 <tbr> ayaka: yes
Jun 15 17:08:35 <ayaka> tbr, could you tell me where it is?
Jun 15 17:09:06 <tbr> I would need to google for that myself...
Jun 15 17:09:56 <ayaka> tbr, I see thank you
Jun 15 17:10:40 <tbr> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=bootable+sd+card+script+beagle
Jun 15 17:18:57 <ayaka> just copy ML0 and u-boot.img is enough?
Jun 15 17:19:20 <tbr> no
Jun 15 17:23:00 <ayaka> tbr, I couldn't find anything special
Jun 15 17:23:14 <ayaka> the first partition is fat16 now
Jun 15 17:26:05 <ayaka> I have tried u-boot.bin and FAT32, it doesn't work either
Jun 15 17:37:26 <ayaka> tbr, thanks it works now, but I don't know how to make it work
Jun 15 17:37:32 <ayaka> I just reformat partition
Jun 15 17:41:03 <tbr> you also need to make sure it's bootable
Jun 15 17:41:34 <tbr> and if the SoC on the BBB still has the ROMBL bug, you need to make sure the number of sectors(?) is even
Jun 15 17:43:10 <ayaka> tbr, about that bug, is it possible to fix?
Jun 15 17:44:50 <tbr> no, you need to create your FS accordingly
Jun 15 17:46:10 <ayaka> tbr, I see, which version will meet that bug
Jun 15 18:57:52 <ayaka> I follow http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18432012/pwm-programming-issue-in-my-bbb but I don't have such thing like /sys/devices/ocp.2/pwm_test_P8_13.15/period
Jun 15 18:58:03 <ayaka> I have that directory but not that file
Jun 15 18:58:11 <ayaka> what is wrong with my kernel?
Jun 15 19:45:13 <ayaka> thanks I have done it
Jun 15 20:42:50 <treeherder> ayaka,
Jun 15 20:43:15 <treeherder> my dash  does something funny wherre i can't ls -la my slots
Jun 15 20:43:19 <treeherder> but i can cat it
Jun 15 20:43:26 <treeherder> same with gpio files
Jun 15 20:43:35 <treeherder> but i can tab-complete them
Jun 15 20:45:13 <ayaka> it is maybe the problem of helper script of dash
Jun 15 22:55:51 <zsnafu> hello :D
Jun 15 22:56:06 <zsnafu> so uh..i did something kind of stupid on my rev c
Jun 15 22:57:54 <zsnafu> i was trying to delete an entry in /sbin/route and i accidently deleted the file
Jun 15 22:59:00 <zsnafu> any one know how to restore it
Jun 15 23:00:00 <tbr> reinstall the package that contains it?
Jun 15 23:03:47 <zsnafu> through the package manager? wouldn't that require internet?
Jun 15 23:19:48 <nate`> Is it common to need a car battery in your room for beagle projects? :P
Jun 15 23:21:54 <vagrantc> zsnafu: you might be able to still use "ip route"
Jun 15 23:21:57 <SpeedEvil> Depends what you're using with it.
Jun 15 23:22:07 <SpeedEvil> car batteries are great sources of really high pulses of current.
Jun 15 23:22:15 <SpeedEvil> GEtting a 12V 300A PSU is expensive
Jun 15 23:22:25 <nate`> Well my project involves throwing this bastard into my 88 4runner
Jun 15 23:22:30 <vagrantc> zsnafu: and then reinstall it...
Jun 15 23:22:46 <nate`> i'd rather do all my testing and code writing inside my air conditioned house than out in the texas heat
Jun 15 23:23:33 <nate`> also can park the vehicle close enough for blue tooth to obtain data from a certain dongle :p
Jun 15 23:29:17 <zsnafu> cool so dpkg -S /sbin/route returned net-tools
Jun 15 23:29:19 <zsnafu> tried
Jun 15 23:29:32 <zsnafu> "sudo apt-get --reinstalled net-tools"
Jun 15 23:29:38 <zsnafu> and got invalid operation :(
Jun 15 23:34:36 <vagrantc> zsnafu: apt-get --reinstall install net-tools
Jun 15 23:35:04 <zsnafu> damn forgot the install part
Jun 15 23:35:05 <zsnafu> thanks
Jun 15 23:35:12 <zsnafu> hmm
Jun 15 23:35:12 <zsnafu> well
Jun 15 23:35:31 <zsnafu> it's unable to connect to the net right now..so it cant reintall that package
Jun 15 23:35:47 <vagrantc> you might have to manually set it up with "ip route add ..."
Jun 15 23:36:43 <vagrantc> alternately, download the net-tools .deb on another computer and transfer via usb stick or something
Jun 15 23:39:37 <zsnafu> cool thanks
Jun 15 23:39:46 <zsnafu> i just found an old ethernet and connected it to the net that way
Jun 15 23:39:51 <zsnafu> seems to be working
Jun 15 23:52:12 <zsnafu> cool so i have another question...one that led me to my previous mess
Jun 15 23:52:29 <zsnafu> im trying to get internet to route from the bbb through the usb to my host...
Jun 15 23:52:38 <zsnafu> i basically followed the directions found here:
Jun 15 23:52:38 <zsnafu> http://lanceme.blogspot.com/2013/06/windows-7-internet-sharing-for.html
Jun 15 23:52:54 <zsnafu> and it has worked before....but not any more
Jun 15 23:53:24 <zsnafu> i can ping the host computer...192.168.7.1..and see the traffic on the host computer...but i can't ping anything outside of it
Jun 15 23:53:30 <zsnafu> not even by ip address
Jun 16 00:06:46 <zsnafu> hmm
Jun 16 00:06:56 <zsnafu> unable to access 192.168.7.2 in the browser anymore
Jun 16 00:26:26 <dohb> hello, i am working on beagleboard xm with debian 7.5 image from elinux.org
Jun 16 00:26:43 <dohb> i cant see any files in /sys/kernel/debug/omap_mux directory
Jun 16 00:27:00 <dohb> so i cant configure expansion pins as gpio pins
Jun 16 00:27:25 <dohb> is the only way to achieve this rebuilding the kernel?
Jun 16 00:28:24 <veremit> you should be using device-trees
Jun 16 00:29:02 <veremit> and you can do separate compiling of dtbo's outside the kernel tree iirc .. correct me if I'm wrong :)
Jun 16 00:30:10 <dohb> veremit, i couldnt understand your suggestion
Jun 16 00:30:26 <veremit> look up device-tree overlays
Jun 16 00:30:40 <veremit> its the 'new' way to configure pin muxes WITHOUT rebuilding the kernel (all the time)
Jun 16 00:30:53 <veremit> or more correctly .. without hard-coding them in the kernel sources
Jun 16 00:31:05 <veremit> <= its late, I'm barely thinking straight :)
Jun 16 00:33:05 <zsnafu> if i reflash the bbb with the emmc image found here:
Jun 16 00:33:06 <zsnafu> http://beagleboard.org/latest-images/
Jun 16 00:33:16 <zsnafu> will it be just as when i had bought it?
Jun 16 00:33:25 <zsnafu> does it whipe and restore it/
Jun 16 00:33:26 <zsnafu> ?
Jun 16 00:33:35 <veremit> zsnafu .. depends which image it shipped with ;)
Jun 16 00:33:57 <veremit> but effectively yes .. it restores it to a known state
Jun 16 00:34:07 <veremit> with same functionality
Jun 16 00:34:24 <zsnafu> cool
Jun 16 00:44:19 <thurgood> those are more recent than what my rev C shipped with, for instance
Jun 16 01:53:36 <zsnafu> http://beagleboard.org/latest-images/
Jun 16 01:53:44 <zsnafu> what's the difference between the emmc
Jun 16 01:53:45 <zsnafu> and
Jun 16 01:53:54 <zsnafu> without the emmc?
Jun 16 01:54:27 <veremit> one flashes the board .. the other doesn't :D
Jun 16 02:07:22 <zsnafu> ok so...with out the emmc you would just be booting of the sd card
Jun 16 02:07:30 <zsnafu> which is how i understood it but just making sure
Jun 16 02:07:54 <veremit> it used to be called a 'flasher' image
Jun 16 02:08:00 <veremit> because it would write the emmc
Jun 16 02:08:26 <veremit> can't say I've seen the latest builds .. I'm used to rolling my own from rcn's own pages :)
Jun 16 02:10:27 <zsnafu> hm
Jun 16 02:15:01 <zsnafu> well here's to hoping it's flashing correctly
Jun 16 02:15:24 <zsnafu> can you make an argument for debian over ubuntu?
Jun 16 02:16:52 <veremit> ubuntu is bloated for embedded systems .. imho :P
Jun 16 02:17:22 <zsnafu> cool
Jun 16 02:17:38 <zsnafu> but with that argument couldn't you argue using gentoo
Jun 16 02:17:46 <zsnafu> or slackware?
Jun 16 02:19:08 <veremit> or arch
Jun 16 02:19:51 <zsnafu> right
Jun 16 02:46:21 <zsnafu> blah can't get it to boot to the sd card
Jun 16 02:47:02 <veremit> hold the boot button for ... until all the LEDs light
Jun 16 02:47:23 <zsnafu> right i have :/
Jun 16 02:47:35 <veremit> hmm
Jun 16 02:47:46 <veremit> maybe its not recognising your card
Jun 16 02:48:25 <zsnafu> is there a size limit?
Jun 16 02:49:05 <veremit> not that I'm aware of
Jun 16 02:53:34 <veremit> sometimes they don't write correctly
Jun 16 02:53:36 <zsnafu> the boot button is the one near the hdmi/sd slot right
Jun 16 02:53:45 <veremit> next to the uSD slot, yes
Jun 16 02:53:51 <zsnafu> i'll try again but i re-wrote it
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